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09/14/1970 - 00018562,-. �►4, THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL PU$LIC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEETING OF SEPT. 14, 1970 � Mayor Kirkham called the Special Public Hearing and Workshop Meeting of SeptemUer 14, 1970 to order at 7:45 P.M. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCL': Mayor Kirkham lead the Council and the audience in saying the Pledge of A1legiance to the Flag. ROLL CALL: NIEMBERS PRESENT: Harris, Bxeider, Kirkham, Liebl MEMBERS ABSENT_ Sheridan ATJOPTION OF AGENDA: MOTION by Councilman Harris to adopt the Agenda as presented. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all vota.ng aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motxon carried. PUBLIC HEARING ON ASSESSMENT FOR WATER AND SEWER MAINS, LATERALS, AND SERVICE CONNECTIONS: Councilman Harris pointed out that all the people have signed an agreement � except one. Mr. Herman W. Kubow, 6654 East River Road, said that he had Lot 9, Parcel 1640, Auditor's Subdivision #23, and asked why he should have an assessment as he had to xun the water line under East River Road for connection at his own expense and showed the Uill for $1014. The Finance Director said that this then would be a credit against his assessment. Councilman Harris pointed out that his assessment would have been $933.66. Mr. Kubow asked if this assessment would be for both water and sewer. The sewer was hooked up in 1966. Councilman Harris said that the assessment is for both water and sewer connections. Mr. Kubow said that the sewer line was illegal as it was not 9' below the ground, but only 5 feet. The 5tat� Board of Health spacifies 9 feet The City Engineer said that the 9 feet was not a requirement, and the 5tate Boa�d of Health approves all the plans before construction is started. Councilman Liebl said that Nlr. Kubow had come before the Council wanting to run the water line as his well had gone dry. Mr. Kubow added that he signed the agreement under protest and said that he had a small baby in the house and needed water badly, The installation of the water line ha said that he paid for himselE, so how could there be an assessment. Councilman Harris told him that the amount he paid would be credited. In this case it would wipe out the assessment, as he has paid more than the assessment would be. The Finance Director said that the copy of the bill had not been turned in so he could not be shown a credit. NLr. Kubow then submitted a copy of the bill showing it paid. � MOTION by Councilman Liebl to close the Public Hearing on the assessment Por Water and Sewer Mains, Laterals, and Service Connections for 1970. Seconded by Councilman Harris. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayo� Kirkham declared the hearing closed at S 00 P.M. �y � ' � � � SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING AN➢ WORKSHOP MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14, 1970 PAGE 2 � MOTION by Councilman Harris to remove the assessment for NLr. Herman Kubow, 6654 East River Road, Lot 9� Parcel 1640 Auditor's Subdivision #23 from the assessment roll, in the amount of $933.66. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. Pi7SLIC HEARING ON A5SESSMENT FOR WATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 98: The City Engineer said that this is the water line extension to serve the Gxeat Northern Industrial plat and connection to We11 #13. Mayor Kirkham asked i£ anyone wished to be heard with no response. MOTION by Councilman Breider to close the public hearing on the assessment roll for Water Improvement Pro�ect No. 98. Seconded by Councilman Harris. Upon a voice vote, all vota.ng aye, Myyor Kirkham declared the hearing closed at 5:02 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING ON FINAL PLAT, P.S. #70-D3� INNSSRUCK NORTH, GENERIff�LY LOCATED NORTH OF HIGHWAY #694 BETWEEN MATTERHORN DRIVE AND THE FRI➢LEY-NEW BRIGHTON SOUNDARY, BY VIEWCON� INC. AND CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING REQUEST ZOA #70-05, FROM R-1 TO R-3 OR R-3A BY VIEWCON. INC.: � The City Engineer said that included in the Agenda are the minutes of the Planning Commission in which this rtem was discussed. The property is 132 acres. There is an area to the nortli proposed for a park and there is also some tax forfeit land in this same general area. On the westerly i of the property thep are proposing to develop into 120 single family sa.tes. The rest is outlots B& C where the proposed rezoning is requested. Outlot D is to be used as a ponding area. The plat basically meets the requirements of the Ordinance. Councilman Liebl asked if they had any plans as pet. Mr. Daxrel Farx, Viewcon Inc., said that they do not have any building pians as yet, but they work from study models. Councilman Liebl asked what is the anticipated price range for the single family homes. Mr. Farr said that the lots would be a minimum of $9,000 and some may be as high as $16,OD0 depending on the lot The price ranqe would be similar to Innsbruck, and would be approximately $50,D00 in most cases. Councilman Liebl wondered if they would be building the R-1 structuxes first or would they be in con�unction with the multiples. Mr. Farr said that they would like to petition the City for streets, sewer and water first as an expression of qood £aith for the residents in the area that they are going to do what they have said. Councilman Liebl pointed out that the people on Matterhorn Drive did not want the apartments next to their homes, and this plan has been submitted showing the single £amily units on that side as a compromise. � N1r. William Dietz, 1280 Hathaway Lane N.E., said that some comments were foswarded from Planning Commission concerning dead ending I-Iathaway Lane This should be considered because of the grade of the street, and the tra£fic pattern. Mr. Farr said that this was discussed and talked about another street to the south. Mr. Dietz felt that the street would be difficult to maintain. The City Engineer said that this is a determination %�2 SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14, 1970 PAGE 3 the City would have to make whether Hathaway Lane would be connected or not, ' and actually has nothing to do with the development. Hathaway Lane is a State Aid road, so there would have to be a request made to take off the State Aid designation. For State Aid, a road has to connect between two primaxy roads. He felt that this would not be a great problem. NLr. Dietz sazd that Hathaway has a maantenance problem now, it is hard to get up when it is acy. He said that his recommendation would be to make a cul-de- sac. He added that his driveway has about a 12o incline. Mr. H.J. Bergman, 5503 Regis Trazl N.E., said that this property has been considered for rezoning three times. Both previous times there was an increase in densxty on the west � as well as the east '�. There were a lot of ob�ections, primarily because o£ the traffic. This plan by V�.ewcon represents a lot of consideration on their part and would be much more reasonable to the residents. Viewcon has met with the residents and listened to the comments and reacted to them He had no disagreement with the plan. He said that he would like some assurance that the westerly port.�on would actually be single family homes. It seems that the plat would assure the residents of this. The second consideration was whether there would be an off set of Regis Lane at Matterhorn to guide the traf£ic into I. 694 service road. IIe would like a positive program whereby traffic from the high density area would go out into New Br�ghton onto Silver Lake Road. Mr. Paul Rebelin, 2121 17th Avenue, New Brighton, asked if a road was going to connect in New Brighton, NLr. Parr said that the major collector street ' goes to Silver Lake Road. This is the easiest, fastest and most direct route to the freeway. This would not be through any single family residences. There are no houses there and there are none planned. Mr. Roger Blohm, 1605 Berne Road N.E., said that the traffsc at Silver Lake Road will make a bad bottleneck, with the high density area exit�.ng there. He felt that it would be more than the road could stand. He said that when he purchased his home the ad7acent area was R-1, and he assumed that it would stay that way. He said that he was not too happy with the rezon�.ng. He questxoned what if Viewcon came back later and petitioned for the westerly portion to be rezoned to multiples. He pointed out that this is the largest tract of land left in the City of Fridley. Mrs. Wayne Schrader, 1510 Berne Road N.E., said that speaking as a tax payer, she would like to see something done with this property. She said that the people in Innsbruck have 2-3-4 cars, but this would not necessarily be the case in the high density area. The apartments would be better than what is there now. Mayar Kirkham told Mr. Blohm, that anyone has the right to come before the Council and petition for a change in zoning. Mr. Farr said in speaking of high density, that this is actually not a high density. High density would mean 30-50 units per acre and they are speaking of about 11'� units per acre. This would not be a high density zoning. ' Mr. George Nustad, 5365 Matterhorn Drive N.E. said that he represented the InnsUruck Home Owners Association and they were in accord with the plat as presented at this time. 6�, � . ,��� SPECIAL PUBLTC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14, 1970 PAGE 4 � Councilman Liebl said that the last time the rezoning of this area came up he wanted to know what kind of structures would be an asset to the school district, and which would be the best from the overall standpoint. This is the largest raw tract of land left within the City of P'ridley. The question was asked, can it be developed to all R-1? He said that he was told by several developers that it could not be and that it would not be economically feasible because o� the rough terra�.n toward Silver Lake Road. He said that he voted against the rezoning last time. The City needs tax money and there should be something brought in. Last time the residents voiced an ob�ection to the multiples abutting the single family dwellings and he would be inclined to view this plan as a compromise. He felt Viewcon has complied with the wishes of the people. The terrain south of I. 694 is more condusive to single family residences than is the north. � Mr. Blohm wondered why it was ever zoned R-1 then. He felt that rt would be an advantage to the City to have some high cost homes. He said that when he purchased his home the ad�acent land was R-1 and he assumed that it would stay R-1. He said that his concern is that he would be ad�acent to the multiple dwellinqs, so his feeling is a bit different than those living west of the complex. Mr. Sergman said that he would accept Councilman Liebl's statements that one half would be single fami7y and 'the other half multiple. He said that he had Viewed the Twin Lakes pro�ect and was favorably impressed. He said that he would approve the present plan. A resident in the audience said that he came in late and wondered if Hathaway Lane would be open or closed. Mayor Kirkham said that this would be an engineering decision, and that personally he would think that it should be a cul-de-sac, but they were not ready at this time to make this decision. Mr. Bergman asked about the intersection of Central and T.H. #65. The City Engineer sazd last year thexe was a request for remodeling of the gas station. At that time 'the proposal was to make a detached service road This is what he would recommend, although there have been no plans approved at this time. Mayor Kirkham added that the City would like to go ahead and make some changes, but negotiations with the State take some time. N1r. Fouzi Rehani, 15A�5 Bexne Road N.E., said that the gentleman who spoke for the Innsbruck Home Owners Association did not speak for all the members, but fox the Board. He felt that the majority of the xesidents would be against this pro�ect. Mr. Farr said that this comment was made befare, but he would have to say that he could see no rallying of the opFosition to the plan. Mr. Nustad said that he has not received a single phone call in opposition to the plan. He said that he lives on Matterhorn and he felt as Mrs. 5chrader felt; that anything would be an improvement. An overall assessment was made by the Board and there has been no support in any ob7ection. A resa.dent in the area asked if the plans extend into New Brighton. Mr. � Farr•said that they have no firm plans for New Brighton although they have about 75 acxes. They have not asked New Hrighton for anything. They were not sure at this time what they wanted to do with the land in New Brighton, but they were not askinq for a ha.gher density for New Srighton at this time. � ���� SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14, 1970 PAGE 5 Councilman Harris said that he had some concern over routing the traffic east ' to Silver Lake Road because it is the closest north-south highway. Before this Council could act he would like a guarantee that the property to the east would be single family and that New Brighton and Ramsey County approve the discharge of the traffic onto Silver Lake Road. Mr. Farr said that he did not know if Ramsey County could stop them from discharging onto Silver Lake Road. The Crty Engineer added that the road is not a controlled access road. Councilman Harris said that if the project was dropped for some reason the road might never connect and would just be dead ended. Fridley should fand out if the traffic is acceptable to New Brighton. Councilman Lieml asked if they were the owners for the whole tract. Mr. Farr said that they have an agreement to purchase the whole tract. Councilman Liebl said that he did not see any way that the road would be stopped from going through. The City Engineer said that the plat for the land in New Brighton would have to be approved by New Brighton, which would have to include the access. He added that they could not deny access. Councilman Harris said that he felt that New Brighton will object to the amount of traffic exiting onto Sslver I�ake Road. MOTION by CounciZman Harris to close the public hearing on the rezoning and the plat by Viewcon, Inc. Seconded by Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the hearing closed at 8 45 P.M. Mayor Kirkham said that there would be no determination ma$e tonight. ' Traditionally the Council reserves the right to delay a decision until they have had a chance to review all considerations thoroughly. Councilman Harris said that he would not be ready to act next meeting. He said tha'h there were some things that he would like tb discuss with the Ci'ty Engineer. It was agreed by the Council to bring this item back on October 5, 1970. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CONSIDERATION OF A EINAL PLAT, ONAN TERRACE, P.S. #70-02, BY GEORG� N. NELSON, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 1500 BLOCK BETWEEN 73RD AVENUE AND ONONDAGA STREET NORTHEAST: AND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #70-08� BY G�ORGE N. NELSON: The Crty Engineer said that this request is for approval of a plat and approval of a special use permrt on land bounded by 73rd Avenue on the south and Onondaga on the north. There are six lots proposed far szngle family dwellings, directly south of this is the area laid out for parking and on the east side, a recreational anfl green area. South of this is the area for the apartment house. They would like to use the R-1 parcel for parking and recreational, and the R-3 area for the building. The Planning Commission recommended approval. Counczlman Breider asked zf at was not correct that they were asking £or the � special use permit so that they could have ar. increased density xn the present R-3 area. Mr. Nelson Sr, sa,td yes they would use the strip of land Eor parking and recreational use, They would use tnis area toward the total land area ratio for the number of units that would be allowed in the R-3 zoning district. He then presented a diagram of the proposed layout. He said that �� � d �r_ SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEETING OF SEPTF.1"1BER 14, 1970 PAGE 6 � they felt in asking for the plat, that this was the best use of the land. There would be a row o� single family lots on Onondaga. The present demand for lots is no� �ox lots the size of these. Oriyinally they were 300' deep and in the plat they are cut down to 125'. She parking would be tied into 73rd Avenue for access. The parking would be south of the R-1 on the west side and the xecseational area would be on the east side in the R-1 portion. Councilman Liebl agreed that the 300' lots were not feasible in this day and age, with the taxes so high. Council.man Liebl then asked if there were homes on the west side. Mr. George Hanson, 1476 Onondaga Street said that there were homes on the west side and added that they are set back from the street about 100'. On the east side on Onondaga the se£tlement zs more sparse. Councilman Liebl asked if �the recseational area would be 7ust for the apartment dwellers and Mr. Nelson said yes. Councilman Liebl asked if there would be a fence and Mr. Nelson said that they plan to separate by a fence. He added that there is a 30' road easement alonq the west side of the development for the future development of the back lots to the west should it ever be needed. The apartment dwellers would not have access to this easement. Councilman Liebl asked how many unrts he was talking of and how much they would cost. Mr. Nelson said 76 units and close to one million dollars. Councilman Liebl asked if the trees would be lost, Mr. Nelson said that they would lose most of the trees, so they would have to landscape the area. He added that to have the apartments rent the complex would have to be kept up. � He added that he la.ves in an apartment and he likes to have it kept up nicely. Councilman Harris asked how far the homes were away on the east side. Mr. Nelson said approximately 150 feet. On the west side they are right next to tihe easement. Councilman Harris asked why not move the recreational area to the west so thai it would act as an additional buffer for the people on the west side. He felt that there would be less opposition if the grassed area were next to the property owners homes on the west side. Mx. Nelson said that he would not ob7ect to the movement of that line, although it would make it farther for the apartment dwellers to walk to the cars. The City Engineer said tha� there was a 20 foot planting str�p called for in the Ordinance, Mx. Nelson said that he planned to comply with all the requirements. Councilman Aaxris said that there were three men in attendance for this item, and asked them if the plan would be more palatable if the recreational area were to be moved to the west. Mr. George Hanson, 1476 Onondaga Street N.E., said no, and asked for a stop to this speculator's bonanza, He said that 10 years ago he moved from Minneapolis because of the encroachment of industry and apartments on the single family dweller. He said that he would not buy a home next to apart- ments or industry. He called for a look at the City of Fridley and said that there is industry and apartments scattered all through the City. There are very few areas left that is all residential. He said that he was opposed to this continuous infringement. What Mr. Nelson wants is a higher density. ,' The children are now bused to Spring Lake Park and they may have �o be hused to Blaine. As far as t�es go, Minneapola.s constantly rezoned for more taxes, but this forces the single family resident out. There has already been a petition submitted with about 60 signatures 7.n opposition to tha.s plan, and the opposition is practically unanimous. He questioned why ask for a rezoning when there is R-3 land available just ad�acent to where he wants to build �'� �i ,f SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14, 1970 PAGE 7 It is a11 R-3 along 73rd Avenue. Mr, Nelson wants to pick up the R-1 ' property and get credit for it toward the R-3 density. Without the special use permit he would be aYale to only put in about 35 units, but with the special use permit he could put in over 70 units. He asked that the Council keep the infr.tnqement down and let the speculatars use the land already zoned R-3. Councilman Liebl poa.nted out that there is a new school proposed for this area. Mr. Hanson said that the bond issue might fail. Mayor Kirkham commented that he was sorry that the residents have to keep coming back to these meetings, but the petitioner has the right to be heard. The City Engineer pointed out that the advantage of the special use permit is that it allows the Council to put stipulations on the builder. The City Attorney asked how many acres he is talking of. A Representative said 7ust under 6 acres, and the density would be 17 per acxe. Councilman Haxris asked if it would be economically feasible to build with a smaller density. Mr. Nelson said that their plan would tie the area together and in his opinion would be the highest possilale use. The Representative said that he did not believe that it would be feasible with a smaller number of units. Mr. Hanson said when speaking of splitting the large lots, that this lOD' behind the house would be very unportant when there is an apartment house behind them. He felt that the 300' lots were an asset and that people ' would like the additional land. This type of large lot is getting�hard to find in the Ca.ty Councilman Breider asked how many units are going in down 73rd Avenue. The City Engineer said that it was a 16 unit apartment building Mr. Hanson said that thzs was �ust fine; the land is zoned for it. Mr. Nelson then presented some sketches at the Council table. Mr. Hanson commented that the homes on Onondaga to the west are set back al�out 100 feet, but the new ones would have a setback of about 35 feet, and he thought that this aspect would appear awkward. Councilman Harris pointed out that he thought there are areas in the City with mixed �etbacks, especially Innsbruck. The required minimum setback is 35 feet, but it could be more. The City could not require a person to build farther back than 35 feet. Mr. Hanson said that the house to the east is also set far back. He asked that the Council draw the line on speculation in Fridley. Councilman Harris said that the land under the special use permit would not have a development on it, and this is permissable under the Ordinance. Mr. Hanson said that there was already land available right next to them that is already zoned R-3. Councilman Harris said that he was looking for a com- promise. Mayor Kirkham said that the R-1 area would be vacant. Mr. Hanson said that he did not feel that a paxking lot could be considered vacant land. Counca.lman Breider said that he felt that the parking lot abutting a residential ' area would be an undesirable thing. There has been talk ahout a fence or trees, but he suggested that there may be people in the apartment house that would like to work on their cars and you may get pe�ple heaving an empty oil can over the fence, etc. There are problems w�.th apartments that close to sa.ngle family dwellings. How do you protect the R-1? SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14, 1970 PAGE 8 � The City Engineer pointed out that if the back of the lots are to be served with a road with the possibility o£ a split in the future, then there would also be an assessment on those lots for the street. He suggested platting another lot from the parking area on the west side 7ust for landscaping to give more of a buffer. This would decrease the density somewhat. Mr Hanson said that he could not foresee.that the people would want to split their lots. They are all happy wa.th the 3DD' lots. The City Engineer said that with the tax situation as it is, rt may become economically unfeasible to keep the large lots. � Mr. Nelson said that he would be agreeable to the suggestion of the City Engineer in making the corner lot 300' deep as an additional buffer £ox the houses on the west. He said that he would landscape the lo�. Mr. Gordon Gnasdoskey, 1491 Onondaga Street N.E., said that he lives next to Flannery Park. The property in this area is well kept up and continues to impxove: The people are constantly txying to upgzade their homes. He said that he was one of the organizers of this opposition to the plan. To have an asphalt parking lot in the middle o£ the area seems like fo11y. He asked that it be left residential. Councilman Liebl said that the Council is fu11y aware of the wishes of the people and the petitioner. He said that he was one of the Councilmen who went up into that area last year. He said that he wanted to make sure the people understood that if the street had to be put in to develop the back lots, there would be an assessment, if this proposal is �urned down. Councilman Breider asked why he withdrew ha.s application for a rezoning and applied for a special use permit. Mr. Nelson said that he did this in response to the voice of the people in the community. The original plan would bring the R-3 zoning to the rear of the single family lots on Onondaga. MOTI�N by Councilman Liebl to close the public hearing on the final plat, Onan Terrace and the special use permit requested by Mr. George N. Nelson Seconded by Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote� all voting ayc, Mayor Kirkham declared the public hearing closed at 9:45 P.M. MOTION by Councilman Breider to brinq these items back before the Council on the Agenda of October 5, 1970. Seconded by Council.man Harris. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. LICENSES: MOTION by Councilman Harris to approVe the £ollowing licenses General Contractor Archies Construction Inc. � Route #5 Anoka, Minnesota By: G.A. Gunderson Eidem & Wolters Const. Co. Route #5 Osseo, Minnesota By: kichard A Eidem Approved By Building Inspector Building Inspector ti� �-,�, 4 � 7 1 ,�.J p : 1 SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING NIEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14, 1970 LICENSES CONTINUED. C & S Remodeling Inc, 2542 7th Street N E. Minneapolzs, Minnesota Londer Company 2909 Niwllet Avenue Minneapolis, Minnesota Masonry By• Leo R. Castigan By: R. Londer fIOward Lidtke Construction Route #Z Wyoming, Minnesota By: Howard Lidtke PAGE 9 Building Inspector Buil$ing Inspector Building Inspector THE MOTION seconded bq Councilman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor xirkham declared the motion carried. RESOLUTION #18G-1970 - RESOLUTTON TO ADVERTISE FOR BIDS FOR MEADOWLANDS PARK STORM SEWER: The Crty Engineer presented both the sumater and winter diagrams on the easel showing the shelter, baseball diamonds, £ootball and soccer field and the hockey rink. The memorandum received by the Council last meeting_outlined the problems they woulci have with the park. The best solution, of course, would be to piL�e the whole area and put in the storm sewer system. The temporary solution is at best, only mediocre. What is proposed is to pipe a portion of the ditch. Even then there would still be a high water table and the ground would not be hard, and wonld be unfit for play after a rain. He then handed out a list from the Parks and Recreation Director of the priorities that he would like. It involves pipe to supplant ditch, hydrant and grading as the first step. Councilman Liebl said that it could be developed over a three or four year period, with some development accomplished each year, The City Engineer said that they could get the ditch and the hydrant done this year. Next year they may go back and do some more grading work to get the diamonds into shape. Councilman Liebl said that the Hockey Association were very anxious to get a rink started in this area this fall. Councilman Harris pointed out that unless lights are provided with a rink, they do not get too much use. He asked what could be done to close the ditch. The City Engineer said that rt would be done any time the Crty chose to put in the storm sewer system for $80,000. Councilman Harris said that he would like to see a portion of the money be for providing an answer to the drainage problem. The City Engineer said that he tried to get some interest in installang the storm sewer, but did not meet with much success. The people immediately adjacent to the park are for the improvement, but those farther away are not, and they would al1 be in the same drainage district. He added that 5 years from now the cost may be up to $120,000. This would be a fairly large area. Storm sewers are very unpopular. MAYOR KIRKHAM LEFT THE MEETING AT 10.00 P.M. � ' ' � 1 � SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14� 1970 PAGE 10 Counca.lman Harris asked if the water could be drained to the highway right of way. The City Engineer said that it was too high. A member of the audience said that he would like to see some way of covering up the ditch. The water is deep enough in places for a child to drewn. Councilman Harris said that the people basically using the park are in this storm sewer district. Everyone will eventually have a stoYm sewer assess- ment at a rate of about $3.05 per 100 square feet Eventually the storm sewer will have to be put in There is about 600 - 700 of the storm sewers done now. The problem could be solved so much easier if the Crty could put in the storm sewer as it should be done. Five years from now there will be the inflationary increase• He said that he would like to see the pro�ect done right. This temporary pipe would be �ust below grade. tIe asked that those residents in attendance try to sell the storm sewer pro�ect to their neighbors, as a storm sewer district is inevitable. There will be sand and silt in the pipe and the system should be put in right. A memher of the audience asked when the storm sewer would be put in. Councilman Harris said that the Council reacts to problems created and solves them rather than acting to prevent a problem. Councilman Liebl said that because of the wst, it was turned down by the residents. Councilman Harris said that if the same amount of money could be placed toward the permanent improvement, it would not be money wasted by duplicating the City's efforts. The City Engineer then brought out the 10 year storm sewer district map. Councilman Harris said that the improvement of Meadowlands Park was part of the bond issue that failed. He said that he would like to see a£irst class park. Councilman Breider said that he agreed with Counca.lman Harris that he would like to see the park improved right, but he felt that they may 7ust as well go ahead and fix the park as we11 as they can over the next three or four years. A member of the audience said that the people immediately adjacent to the park were for the full s�orm sewex improvement. Councilman Harris said that he felt that the Council should move on this. He wondered if i� would be possible for the Council to hold one large public hearing on all the storm sewer districts left to be done, then defer the assessments until later. That way they could take advantage of the 1970 prices and everyone would pay the same pra.ce. He asked that the City Attorney do some research on this. He said that he would approve the temporary plan as laid out by the Parks Director and the City Engineer. MOTION by Councilman Breider to adopt Resolution #186-1970 ordering advertise- ment for bids for the Meadowlands Park temporary storm sewer pipe, and other xelated wosk necessary to implement the plan submitted by the Paxk Director and the City Enga.neer for piping the ditch. Seconded by Counc.tlman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. A member of the audience asked how much it would cost for the temporary improvement of the pipe. The City Engineer said $6,D00 to $8,000 and this would cover about � of the ditch. RESOLUTION #187-1970 - A RESOLUTION ORDERING IMPROVEMENT AND FINAL PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS 1iND ESTIMATES OF COSTS THEREOFc STREET IMPROV�MENT PROSECT ST. 1970-1 ADDENDUM #4: `? ( � � ��sJ SPECIAL PUBLTC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEETING OF SEPTEMBER I4� 1970 PAGE lI MOTION by Councilman Liebl to adopt Resolution #157-1970. Seconded by � Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. R�SOLUTION #188-1970 - A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT FOR 1970 WATER AND SEWER MAINS, LATERALS, AND SERVICE CONNECTIONS: MOTION by Councilman Liebl to adopt Resolution #188-197D. Seconded by Councilman Brexder. Upon a voice vote, all votinq aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. RE50Li7T20N #189-1970 - A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASSESSNIENT FOR WATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 98� MOTION by Councilman Breider to adopt Resolution #159-1970. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon_a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. ADJOURNMENT- There being no further business, Mayor Kirkham declared the Special Public Hearing and Workshop Meeting of September 14, 1970 ad7ourned at 10•20 P.M. Respectfully submitted, �_/� � l( , �i� t/ � /�'i/ . e(.� � �£�/% ,77�i'_.e e.z� L Suel Mercer Jack O. Kirkham Secretary to the City Council "' Mayor �