02/08/1971 - 00018297� , i � �
, ." I q 1
i .
THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEP�TING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971 '
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Mayor Kirkham lead the Council and the audience in saying the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag.
Mayor K�rkham called the Special Public Hearing and Workshop Meeting of
February 8, 1971 to order at 7:45 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Breider, Kelshaw, Kirkham, Liebl
MEMBERS ABSENT: Harris
Mayor Kirkham said that Councilman Harris was unable to attend the Meeta.ng as
he was zn Duluth.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
Mayor Kzrkham said that he would like to add a Visitors portion to the Meeting
and the following item under communications:
17. Communication from the Attorney for Metxopolitan Sewer Soard. �
MOTION by Councilman Breider to adopt the Agenda as amended. Seconded by
Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham
declared the motion carried.
VISITORS:
Councilman Liebl said that he had had a call from Mr. Harpole and called upon
him to explain his request to the Council.
Mr. Harpole said that he would like to request the use of the vacant lot
next to Club 47 at the intersection of T.H. #47 and 61st Avenue. They would
like to have a hockey and broom ball rink put in for the use of adult men
who would like to have some recreation of that sort. The park cannot be used
until 8;00 or 8:30 P.M. or early in the A.M. The men all work during the
day. There are several people interested in this project.
Mayor Kirkham said that this would be a good pro7ect, but it is already late
in the season. The hockey season w,tl1 only last for about anather 'two weeks.
Most skating rinks will be in operation until the third week in February. The
City budget is planned for keeping the rinks during normal skating season, so
there is no money to expend. Mr. I-Iarpole saxd that maintenance would be no
problem, the people would keep the rink up themselves. Al1 they wanted was
the use of the land. They figured that they could use the ra.nk until about the �
end of March when the ice will start melting.
%�� 4i 4�
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEHRUARY 8, 1971 PAGE 2
� Councilman Liebl said that Mr. Harpole called him and he explained the policy
in regard to the rinks already in operation. This is not park property, but
was acquired for intersection improvement and the work will be done this
summer. NLr. Harpole wanted the City to flood the area and they would keep
the ice up themselves after that, and there would have to be no City expenditure.
Councilman Liebl asked as to insurance, if the City would be liable. The
City Attorney said no. Mayor Kirkham asked him if he only wanted permission
to use the land. Mr. Haxpole said yes, and flooding. Mayor Y.irkham said that
they could use the land but the City could not expend funds. The Acting City
Manager pointed out that there is an item to be considered later on in the
evening concerning a transfer o£ funds to maintain the rinks the City has now.
The Parks Director has said that it takes about two weeks of night work to
build up a rink. He could not say what the exact cost of flooding would be.
There are no hockey boards in this area and they have had problems in other
areas where people tried to play hockey without boards and without su£ficient
room. There has to be some distance between the hockey playing and the
ad�acent buildings. The City does have a program established for the re-
maincler of the year and there are only two more weeks left in the regular
skating season. After that there will only be skating at Moore Lake and
Commons Park. Mr. Harpole asked if there was any ob�ection to the use of
the land. Mayor Kixkham said thai. he had no objection. Councilman Liebl
said that they would also like to use City water from the hydrant to flood the
rink. Councilman Kelshaw said that there could be no expense to the City.
' MOTION by Counci]man Liebl to authorize use of the vacant lot at the inter-
section of T.H. #47 and 61st Avenue which is the land the City has acquired for
the loopbacks with the understanding that the people using the lot will be
responsible for the maintenance of the rink and will pay for the water from
the hydrant used for flooding. Seconded by Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Mayar Kirkham declared the motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING ON REPAIR, REJIIVENATION, AND IMPROVEMENT pF LOCKE LAKE DAM:
The City Engineer said that he has brought the status of the dam to the
attention of the Council twice over the last four years. As indicated
earlier, the dam is in need of repair and should definitely be repaired this
year. Previous action by the Council was to authorize the City funds for the
repair of the structure this year. This dam was oriyinally built £or Anoka-
Cuyuna Railxoad and the culvert was converted in 1955 to create Locke Lake.
The reason this is being brought to the attenta.on of the people is to advise
them what the plan is and also to tell them of the future needs anci the
necessity of improvement because of the potential hazards of flooding to
this area. He then showed the proposal on the overhead pro�ector £or the
benefit of the audience, and pointed out where the cracks were located. The
estimated figure for the immediate repair work is $5200. The Council has
already authorized the Administration to proceed with the repair and hope-
£ully it will be done this construction season. He said that he wanted to
point out to the people living on the lake that the dam was created from a
culvert and is not designed to take care of the future £low of water in this
� area. He then showed the Rice Creek Watershed District on the screen and said
that the Ittce Creek Watershed extends 26 miles in the northeast direction.
This area encompasses over 20 other municipalities, and we are concerned about
the potential future flows in Rice Creek. The existing dam is not adequate
to handle the future flow. If the people feel that they want to proceed with
the improvement at this time, it is their choice. There was a culvert
�I � ` J
SPECIAL PUBLIC IIEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971 PAGE 3
installed in 1965 under T.FI. #47 with a 1200 C.F.S. capacity, the present �
dam has 250 C.F.S., so it is only ; of the potential of water that could
come through. There are two ways to solve the problem. One is to modify
the existing dam to provide for future potential flow. The proposal is to
go back and extend the wing walls and provide an additional wea.r area. This
would cost an estimated $15,300. There is also a deluaceplan that would call
for building a new dam.
Mayor Kirkham said that if he understood correctly, the immediate repairs
needed would be about $5,000 and to modify the dam would be about $15,000.
The Crty Engineer said yes, this would be using the existing £acility.
Councilman Liebl saa.d that he thought that the people la.ving around the lake
realize the problem at the present time. There is a possibility that this
spring the dam might break. There are cracks on both the east and west
sides. I�e felt that the City should go ahead with the $5200 expenditure for
the repair, but in order to go for a number of years to come and to maintain
the present level o£ water in Locke Lake, the dam must be remodeled and the
extra $10,000 should be spent to do this. He felt that the job should be
done right to maintain the level of water in the Lake and he would recommend
going ahead with the pro7ect. There has to be about $15,000 spent to make
it adequate for the next 10 - 15 years. He hoped that the people would
support the pro7ect. If they concur, there would be 50 home owners involved
and they would be assessed about $200 per lot if the City picks up the $520D.
The Crty Engineer added that if the people were assessed the difference '
between the $15,000 and $5200, then the people would be paying about 2/3
and the City 1/3 of the cost. He pointed out that the repair work must be
done at any rate.
Councilman Liebl said that the property owners that would benefit are those
around the lake. The $5200 by the City would take care of the City commitment,
the rest would have to be picked up by the people surrounding the �ake. The
City Attorney said that this would be a legally acceptable method of assess-
ment.
Mr. Don Schultz, 15 Rice Creek Way, wondered how often they would have to
spend this money. Where cha.ldren used to dive off the railroad trestle,
they can now walk across. This has happened over a relativaly short
pera.od of time. He said that maybe the lake should be abandoned and 7ust
have the creek.
Mr, Abe Nichols, 6949 Hickory Drive N.E., said that he was President of the
Locke Lake Association. He said that he went back to the group after the
Council Meeting last fall, and explained tQ the people the $5,000 that the
City would be spending. Before they will agxee to any assessments, he felt
that they should have another meeting of the group. If it should prove
necessary for the home owners in the �nunediate area to pick up the $10,000
in assessments there should be another Association meeting first. He felt
that they were in no immediate 7eopardy and that it was a fairly strong �
structure.
Mr. Fred Halverson, 85 Rice Creek Way N.E., said that he had been working with
the people at his end of the lake since 1963, and he had the £eeling that the
dam was a sound structure. He has heard tonight of the dange� that it might
go out, but it seems that the problem is �ust patching a couple of cracks.
E � �ti
.�� � 'a�
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971 PAGE 4
� Until it is known what is going to be done upstream and downstream, it should
be considered what the total overall impact is going to be. He has heard that
the culvert under T.H. #47 is 1200 C:.F S., but there has only been one scare
when there was water up on the lawn. This was very rare and not likely to
reoccur. He would be in favor of the property owners getting together and if
there is a sincere feeling, there should be some ad7ustments made and it should
be tied into what is to be done upstream.
Mayor Kirkham said that the Council would wait before proceeding with the
pro�ect until the property owners meet and report back to the Council. Mr.
Nichols said that he would like to ]nrrow the pictures of the cracks in the dam
and he was told to come into City Hall and see the Crty Engineer.
The City Engineer said that the Public Hearing was to advise the people of the
conditions and ask if they wanted to repair what they have. If they feel it is
time to act, fine. He was not indicating that the dam would fl�at out tomorrow.
As to the Rice Creek Watershed, he said that he had documents available if the
group would like to see them. He added that the people of Locke Lake will be
thankful to find that Designware is no longer running their effluent into the
lake, that now it is being dumped into the sanitary sewer.
MOTION by Councilman Kelshaw to close the Public Hearinq on the re7uvenation
o£ Locke Lake Dam. Seconded by Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried and the hearing closed
' at 8�22 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING ON STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ST. 1970-4, ADDENDUM #3:
78th Avenue: Beech Street to Main Street.
The City Engineer said that the Council has authorized street improvements in
Onaway Addition. He showed onti�e map where the improvements were to go. When
the Public Hearing was held, 78th Avenue was eliminated because of the pending
action with SprLng Lake Park for the resolvement of the drainage problem. It
now seems that this will take some time, so the proposal is to put a street
in between Beech and Main Street using the bare minimum type of pavement.
This would be to provide a paved area for the traffic and also to keep the
dirt from washing down onto the newly paved streets.
Councilman Liebl asked the City Engineer if the streets were completed in
this area. The City Engineer replied that they have been graded and are
ready for paving. They should be done in about three months. He added that
the alley is being used for access. Councilman La.ebl asked, when the snow
melts, is there a danger of the street washing out. The City Engineer said
that the dirt would wash onto the paved area. The proposal is about a of
what is normally put in.
Mr. Richard Harris said that he had some comments to make. As to the question
of the dirt washing onio the newly paved streets, he said that only '� of Main
Street and '� of 77th Avenue had curbing and the rest has been deleted, so what
� is to prevent the dirt from washing from these streets where the curbing has
been deleted� As to the traffic, why be so concerned about the traffic�
There is not a great deal of traffic in Block 2. There �.s one building along
Beech Street, but it seems inconcievable that they would use 78th Avenue. He
said that this minimal type of construction would 7ust be an added burden, as
there is already water and sewer, and streets with curbs and gutters going in.
�, ��;
_:��
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8� 1971 PAGE 5
Now they are being asked to put in a blacktopped surface to facilitate someone
driving from Beech Street to Elm Street. There is no sense in a street
between �lm Street and Main Street. He said that this is a way of dodging
the situation with Spring Lake Park and it will just be pushed aside. The
way to build a tax base is not to have open ditches! He said that he proposed
a long tune ago that there should be some overall plan for this area and get
the problems solved first. There was once a proposal to vacate that street.
Mayor Kirkham said that it was not fair to indicate to the audience that nothing
is being done concerning the ditch problem. The City has been doing everything
possible to speed up the resolvement of the problem with Spring Lake Park. Mr.
Harris said that he understood that Fridley is going to court with Spring Lake
Park about tha.s situation. Mayor Kirkham said that this is what has to be
done. Mr. Harris asked then why pave the street? Mayor Kirkham said that he
should not be critical, and that this is 7ust a proposal and it is not going
to be ramrodded in. Mr. Harris said that he did not like it and that he has
invested his money in this wmmunity. Mayor Kirkham said that Mr. Harris
is critical of Council action, yet tha.s is Mr. Harris' area and the traffic
generated is partly due to his operation. He said that he must not be
critical of the staff for trying to respond to what the residents in the area
want. Mr Harris has indicated a need for streets in this area.
Councilman Liebl asked Mr. Harris if he felt that to do this street would be
a waste of money and Mr. Harris replied yes. Councilman Liebl asked if he
thought that by putting in this improvement, it wo�ild �eopardize streets in
rase of proMlems in the spring. Nlr. Harris said that everything comes back
to the ditch problem. The culverts are more than � full, and with existing
condrtions there will be water over Elm, Beech and Main Streets. He said that
it was not conceiv�le to him how paving of 78th will keep da.rt off Elm,
Beech and Main Streets. It will not do a bit of good.
The City Engineer said that it is true that part of the streets will not have
curbing, but that part not having curbing will have an asphalt machine
rolled curb for control of the water. When the drainage problem has been
solved, the permanent improvement could go in. Court cases do take a great
deal of time. There was a statement made by Mr. Hax'ris that there will be
water over the road. There is no question, there will be water over the
roadway, the improvement to the drainage situation is badly needed. There
have been aprons put into the roadways to control the water, there is no
other physical way. The only way to correct the situation is to put in the
proper drainage system, and the ma7or portion of the cost should be borne
by Spring Lake Park.
Mr. Harris said that he still did not believe that this would keep the dirt
off the street. The City Engineer said that if he had such strong feelings
about this, the Council may choose to delete rt. Just because it is proposed
does not mean that it will go through.
Councilman Kelshaw asked Mr. Harris what was his occupation. Mr. Harris
replied that he has been an engineer since 1957.
MOTION by Councilman Kelshaw to close the Public Hearing on Street Improve-
ment Pro7ect St. 1970-4, Addendum #3. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried and the hearing was closed at
8:42 P.M.
�
�
�
f`�n c;� �
.�„ F; �
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971 PAGE 6
� PUBLIC HEARING ON VACATION SAV #71-01, PROJECT 1970-3, TO VACATE PORTIONS
OF T.H. #47 EAST SERVICE ROAD:
Mayor Kirkham said that this hearing was relative to the loopback arrange-
ment along University Avenue. The City Engineer showed the area on the
overhead pro�ector and said that they have been working toward improved
safety and tra£fic flow at the intersection of T.H. #47 and 61st Avenue
and 57th Avenue. At 61st, the proposal is to detach the existing service
road and loop it back behind the service station. They have requested the
Highway Departsnent to release the land, then the City would vacate rt and
a.t would become part of the property belonging to the property owners to
the east.
Mayor Kirkham asked a.f there was any member of the audience that wished to
speak. A representative from St. Williams Church asked if this was the
same plan that was presented to them in August, 1965. The City Engineer
said that it was basically the same.
Councilman Liebl asked if the City has received a letter saying that Shell
will cooperate. The City Engineer said that he has communicated with them
two or three times and they have not given him a formal "yes", but they
have given verbal agreement. He added that if the negotiations are not
successful, the Council has already authorized the City Attorney to start
Condemnation proceedings.
� MOTION by Councilman Liebl to close the Public Hearing on SAV #71-01, to
vacate portions of T.H. #47 East Service Road. Seconded by Councilman
Kelshaw. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the
motion carried and the hearing closed at 8:45 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING ON REZONING REQUEST ZOA #70-06, BY SID BADER TO REZONE FROM
R-1 TO R-3 THE SOIITH 301 FEET OF LOT 4, AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION #108:
The City Engineer showed the area to be rezoned on the screen along with the
surrounding areas to show the relationship to the request. The request is to
rezone the south '� of Lot 4 from R-1 to R-3A. The area to the west is
already zoned R-3. The Planning Commission held their hearing and recommended
aPproval of the rezoning request. There was a letter of no ob�ection from
the ad�acent property owners. The property in the north � of Lot 4 would
still be residential. This hearing is held to hear the comments of the
ad�oining property owners.
Mr. Tom Marxen, 1620 Onondaga, said that he is the owner of Lot 5, Auditor's
Subdivision #108 and directly ad�acent on the east. He said that in looking
at this it seems there could be a better plan applied to this area. The
Planning Commission seemed to think Lot 5 would remain R-1, but he did not
see how it could, with cars driving through the parking lot to get to the
home. Councilman Liebl asked him to go to the map and point out where the
house is. Mr. Marxen went to the map and said there was a house on
� Onondaga at the north end of Lot 5. Councilman Liebl asked if part of the
lot would be land locked. Mr. Marxen said that it would without the road
easement going across the middle of Lot 4. He said that Mr. Bader has agreed
to fencing etc., but he wondered �ust how much good that would do.
,�
:�;,, _�� ��
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY S, 1971 PAGE 7
Councilman Liebl asked what was the pxice range of the homes in that area. �
Mr. Marxen said about $24,000. Councilman Liebl asked what type of home was
on the west side. Mr. Marxen said there was one home on Lot 4- He added
that if he was the owner of Lot 4 and was able to put a building on it, he
would walk away from it.
The Ca.ty Engineer said that the area to the west has been worked out with the
Council and there are to be some residential lots on Onondaga. The proposal
is to extend the north - south road on the east sa.de of Lot 32 down to the
middle of the block. Nlr. Bader has gone to the abutting property owners
and gotten their comments. I£ NLr. Marxen wants to develop his property, he
would suggest a meeting with the property owners.
Mr. Sid Bader came forward and presented his plans at the Council table. He
said that the driveway is pxoposed on the west side of the building. He said
that this was recommended by the Planning Commission. There is to be a bexm
and landscaping on the other side. There is also a street easement to be
given at the north end of where the R-3 will be. He said that he owns 1441
73rd Avenue which is an apartment complex and �t has rented very well. He
would now like to get the south '� of Lot 4 rezoned.
Councilman Liebl said that Mr. Bader is trying to bm ld a 24 unit complex and
questioned if he met all the area requirements. The City Engineer explained
that he is not asking for a building permit at this time and before he does,
he will have to meet the requirements. Mr. Bader said that if he builds �
23 units, he will have 23 garages. Councilman Liebl asked what was the
investment per unit. Mr. Bader said approximately $16,000 per unit.
Mr. Drumm, 1641 73rd Avenue N.E., said that he has the adjacent property to
the east. He said he would like to know when something like this goes into
an area, what affect does it have on the resale of his home. He said that
in his work he is sub7ect to transfer, and added that his home is for sale
now for $21,900. The City Assessor said that it was not very likely to
affect the sale o£ his property in this price range. When homes get into
the $30,000 and up price range there may be some ill affect on selling the
home.
Councilman Kelshaw asked how much the units would rent for. Mr. Bader said
that a two bedroom would be $200 -$210 with garage.
Mrs. Drumm asked how many children are estimated for the building. Mr. Bader
said that he did not know, but that he did not have any mare than six
children in the eight unit apartment building near there.
Mr. Bob Bigelow, 6322 Bass Lake Road, Minneapolis, said that as far as the
value goes in this area, by nature it will have to increase. There is a
little shack on the lot now and he did not see how building a nice apartment
ccmplex could do anything but enhance the area.
Mr. Drumm said that having 24 families next door rather than one sometimes �
makes people want to sell their home. Councilman Liebl sa�.d that there are
quite often problems in having R-1 and R-3 in the same area. Lakesa.de Road
would make a natural boundary for the multiple units, and could form a
buffer. He said that he did recognize the fact that the apartment complex
on 73rd Avenue is very nice and of high quality, but he would want to make
����
, �
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971 PAGE 8
, sure that the people are not huxt. He said that he would take another look
at the area. Mr. Bigelow pointed out that the petition has been approved
by about 90a of the property owners.
Councilman Breider asked if Lot 32 was one solid lot. The City Engineer
said yes, and the S'� is R-3 and the N� is residential. There is a proposal
to split it east and west, then it would be served by the north - south road
on the east side of Lot 32. Lot 4 has enough area to make four lots,
except that there is already a house on Onondaga. If the property owners
want to get together and clevelop the area, it could be done.
Councilman Breider asked how Lots 7, 8, 9, and 10 could be served. The City
Engineer said that they could be split north and south, then served by the
mid-block cul-de-sac if the people wish. Councilman Breider said that he
believed Nlr. Bader mentioned building a laome on the north end of Lot 4. He
asked i£ he would be petitioning to put the street in. Mr. Bader said that
if the street went in, fine.
MOTION by Councilman Breider to close the Public Hearing on the rezoning
request ZOA #70-06 by Sid Bader. Seconded by Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried and
the hearing closed at 9:10 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING. VACATION SAV #70-05, BY SAROSLAW ABRAMSHUK, A PARTIAL
I VACATION OF THE UTILITY EASEMENT ON LOT 1, BLOCK 5, RICE CREEK PLAZA SOUTH:
The City Engineer said that on Page 1S o£ the Council Agenda is a Certi£icate
o£ Survey showing the lot. The garage is already built and now the gentleman
is requesting vacation o£ 7' of the easement. There are letters from
Northwestern Bell Telephone Company and Northern States Power Company
indicating that they do not ob�ect to the vacation. The City has no need
for this easement, and the Plamiing Commission recommended approval of the
request.
MOTION by Councilman Liebl to receive the communication from Northern States
Power Company dated December 8, 1970 and from Northwestern Bell Telephone
Company dated December 8, 1970. Seconded by Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the mota.on carried.
The City Engineer commented that Mr. Abramshuk was very appologetic to the
City for not following the proper procedure
MOTION by Councilman Liebl to close the Public I-Iearing on the vacation
request SAV #70-05 by Jaroslaw Abxamshuk. Seconded by Councilman Kelshaw.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion
carried and the hearing closed at 9:12 P.M.
� ST. 1971-3)
Mayor Kirkham said that this road has been the concern of the City Council,
law enforcement agencies, and the County Soard for many years. They have
been trying to come up with a solution to the safety hazards. He asked the
City Engineer to give a summary of what has occurred over the years.
� y, _ I `S
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971 PAGE 9
The City Engineer said that the City and the County have been concerned with ,
the record of deaths on tha.s roadway over the last years. In the last four
years there has been a study for improved safety and there have been many
proposals presented. Two years ago the City made a report on the basic
problems and the traffic flow on this roadway. About six months ago the
County presented a plan to the City to improve the roadway taking into con-
sideration the safety and general improvement of the area. As was indicated
earlier, the section of highway between I. 694 and Rice Creek has had a
considerable number of deaths. Since 1963 there have been 24 deaths in the
City and 12 were deaths on East River Road and six of these were in the area
where the proposed improvement is to go. This section is 1.3 miles and has
a high percentage of fatala.ties a.n relation to the actual mileage of xoadway.
This is 20 - 30 times more dangerous. He then showed on the overhead
pro7ector a breakdown of the causes of the deaths. From January through
December there were 60 accidents on East RiveY Road. There are about
20,000 cars average daily traffic north of I. 694. He then showed a trafPic
pattern map on the pro7ector, and said that the traffic counts were taken
using Minnesota Highway Department procedures. He then showed the projected
Pigures for 1975� and said that T.H. #65 was mostly used for through traffic
and T.H. #47 and East River Road was more local txaffic. He then showed the
projected p3ans for bringing in I. 94 into I. 694 and said that when the
north corridor drains into the south, it will put additional pressure on the
highways. The plan as originally proposed has been considerably modified.
In the future because there is no freeway system going north and south,
these highways will be clogged at peak hours. The proposal was to see how ,
to make �ast River Road sa£er for the local residents that use East River
Road. Since the original plan was presented, he said that he has talked to
the County Engineer, the Consultant and the County Road and Bridge Sub-
committee to make the plan more palatable and try to use the comments made
by the local residents. In the Agenda there is a list of 14 items that
represent the changes from the original plan. These modifications he felt
were to the benefit of the ad7acent property owners. Any improvement would be
a step in the right direction, such as, signals would be one step, the
median another and the turning lanes would be another. He then explained
the changes one by one as outlined on Page 25 and 26 of the Council Agenda.
The total share Fridley would pay is about $100,000, or about ; of what was
originally talked about with the County. There would be no assessment for
the service roads, the only assessment would be for the drainage. The cost
of the signal would be picked up b� general funds.
Mr. R�.chard Brown, 6103 East River Road, said that he was right on the corner
where the signal would come in. There have been many changes from the
original plan but it seems that the City is determined to spend the money.
He did not feel that the money had to be spent. The proposal take5 about '�
of his front yard and he was not in favor of that. All the arguments
have been heard and the people have stated their oppositiqn and he has yet
to hear anyone except the City Engineer speak in favor of the proposal. He
said that all the people understand the issue and feel that the Council should
take a stand. He said that he would like to know how the Council felt.
A lady in the audience wondered if there was any intention to work on the �
rest of East R.iver Road on north. The City Engineer explained that there are
studies for the improvement of al1 of East River Road but it is a matter of
money. F'unds are not available for all the project, so this section was
chosen to do first as it was felt that it was the worst.
t T i , �
�!� Lu' ,
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971 PAGE 10
� Mr. Kenny Mix said that he had the Mico Independent Oil Company at 6500
Mississippi Stree't. He said that he has discussed this proposal w�_th the
City Manaiger, and wants to spend money for remodeling. He would like to
know the number of accidents at the intersection of Mississippi and East
River Road. Ae said that he kept a record of accidents that happen going
in and out of his driveway. Thexe wexe only four fendex benders going from
Mississippi onto East Itiver Road. He said that he has worked on extending
his islands and since that time he has met wrth Bather and Associates and
the County Engineer and he wondered when they would be getting back to him
in regard to what was going to happen with that corner. He said that he was
willing to cooperate. He said that he was the second largest contributor
of automobile tax in the City of Fridley. He explained that he had tried
to relocate and found hLmself in the same situation as he is in here. There
were proposed alteration of the roadway there also. He would like to stay
where he is as he enjoys his position in the Crty He said that they do not
contribute to the traffic hazard on this corner. He said that he would like
to see something definite done as he would like to remodel. Mayor Kirkham
told him in regard to the accidents at that corner, that the accident reports
are taken from the police files.
Mr. Gerald Kantor, 6220 East River Road asked that the map be put back on
the screen showing the study area. He said in the last two years there have
been no deaths and since that t�.me there has been the addition of the stop
light at the schoo.�, and the decrease of the speed limit from 45 MPH to
� 40 MPH. In 1967 there were three deaths at the curve in the road. That is
the biggest problem; the road should not be so winding. He said that he could
see no sense in the praposed improvement. The traffic signal at the school is
now worka.ng all the time� and the speed has decreased. He said that he has
heard of no accidents in the past year. As far as the divider is concerned
he could not see how this would help.
The City Engineer said without a doubt every step toward improvement of East
River Road is a step in the right direction. He pointed out that there was
a total of 10 signals proposed for East River Road and showed the locations
on the screen. He said that the traf£ic will be there whether there is any
improvement or not. It is hoped that the improvement will reduce the number
of accidents on this roadway. Tt is a matter of probability; the number
of accidents is reduced with impxovements and pointed to T.H. #47 as an
example. Even with more traffic, with the use of signals, median and left
turns there are less accidents. This improvement is basically to help people
living on East Itiver Road to get on and off the roadway safely. He pointed
out again that the City share has been reduced considerably. If just the
Mississippi Street intersection were to be improved with signals the cost
would be pretty close to Eridley's share in the whole improvement. The plan
hopes to get proper drainage and access on the back streets for pedestrian
traffic rather than walking on East River Road. This plan is considerably
modified from what was originally proposed by the County using the input oP
the residents. The County has now been convinced that they should pay for
the major share of the improvements. The reason the County would be paying
� £or the paving of Ashton Avenue is that by putting in the median, it takes a
paved access away from the people, so the County agreed that a paved access
must be provided to them if one is taken away. He pointed out that more
than SOo of the people involved in accidents on East River Road are Fridley
people. There has never been a proposed project wrth so much discussion with
F � "� �;' �
♦r �I � J J
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8� 1971 PAGE 11
the property owners. He was sure that they could not please everybody, but '
the inconveniences to a few must be weighed against the benefit to the many.
The divider would divide the north flow o£ traffic from the south flow and
also would help eliminate almost SOo of the turning and yield accidents.
Mr. Kantor said that there was a divided highway south of I. 694, yet there
were two deaths. The City Engineer said that without a doubt there will
still be accidents, but the probability would be reduced.
Mrs. Hasher, Executive Secretary for Georgetown Court Apartments, asked the
City Engineer to put the map on the screen that shows the Georgetown Apartment
service road. The City Engineer did so, and explained that this plan is
exactly what Mr. M. Filister wanted. There is about 12' between the existing
road and the garages and the proposal is to move the road east and further
away from the garages. She then asked how the turns would be accomplished
and the Crty Engineer said that right turns would be the same as it is now and
the left turns would be made at the signal. She asked if coming from the
property and going north, would there be a left turn signal and the City
Engineer said yes.
Mr. Mix asked if a determination has been made to widen Mississippi Street
to four lanes. The City Engineer said yes, they have been working with the
railroad and the County for the section between East'River Road and 2nd
Street to be the same as between 2nd Street and T.iI. #47. The railroad has
now agreed that they would not oppose the City in putting in the underpass �
and that they would participate in the construction of the underpass. It
is now a matter of getting funds and preparing plans. It would be four
lanes going to Mississippi. Mr. Mix asked if there were any plans going
west of East Ra.ver Road on Mississippi. The City Engineer said that his
property would be taken as the proposal stands.
Mr. John Nuller, 47 Rtce Creek Way said that he was not opposed to the plans,
but questioned if it was being done under the guise of being concerned about
the safety on East River Road. The question to him is if they were truly
interested in the safety, the first step would be to reduce the speed limit
to 30 MPA. He questioaed if they were truly doing this in the interest of
safety or i£ they see the opportunity to build a monument using City, County
and Federal funds. The City Engineer said that in 1968 the Council passed
a resolution to that affect. At that time the speed limit was 45 MPH and
it was reduced to 40 MPH. The speed lunit is not controlled by the City but
by the Highway Department. The Highway Department makes a study of every-
thing concerned. The City has been a.n favor of a reduced speed limit. He
said as to labeling this under safety and trying to builci a monument, what
interest would the City have in doing this? More than 50� of the accidents
involve people living in Fridley. East River Road has one of the highest
accident records. There are no additional lanes being provided, the proposal
only makes it safer to get on and off the highway. The signals will help
greatly. The divider is provided because the roadway is winding. This road
was done in World War II time and they could not question why it was not done
right. We must try to do the best we can with a difficult situation. Some ,
people feel the divider is an inconvenience, there is no argument about that,
but there cannot be anything else done. If nothing is done, there will still
be more traffic because of natural human growth. Since 1963 the volume has
more than doubled. There were signals added at I. 694 and this helped the
�r� !/ 1 i�
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971 PAGE 12
� situation, He pointed out that there were about 1200 dwelling units in the
area which provides for much local tra£fic. He said that he was sure that
the public cannot say that the Council has not listened to the people,
they have, and the modified plan is the result.
Mayor Kirkham asked how much it would be if the City were to put in 7ust
what the people have asked for, the three signals. The City Engineer estunated
a total cost of about $150,OD0 �ust for the signals wzth proper arrows. Mayor
Kirkham said that that would be $150,0�0 out of genezal revenue funds, this
proposal is for $100,000 with the remaining $900,000 to be borne by the County
and Federal funds. This is still a tax, of course, but he questioned how many
years Fridley has been paying into the County coffers and not getting it
back because it is used in other parts of the County. At last rt has been
demonstrated to the County that Pridley's need is the greatest and they are
willing to participate. There is a newly authorized Federal program to help
communities in cases where the City would not be able to make the corrections
themselves. The Ca.ty has�been able to demonstrate their need and are ela.gible
for these Federal funds.
A lady in the audience said that the City Engineer has said that the property
ownexs were wnsulted, but she was not asked. She asked if they were in favor
of widening the road and inviting more traffic down the road. She said that
she has heard the same thing at three different meetings and would like to
hear what these people tha.nk. Mayor Kirkham said that the modified plan came
� about as a result of the input from the people. There have been several
meetings o� this nature. What prompted this study in the first place was
comments being made by people deeply concerned about the problem. The lady
said that the speed could be reduced. Mayor Kirkh� pointed out that this was
petitioned for and the speed was reduced from 45 MPH to 40 MPH.
Councilman Kelshaw asked that everyone in favor of the pro�ect stand up. No
one stood.
Mr. Miller said that he did not know enough about the pro7ect to make his mind
up yet. He said that he was like the rest of the people, listen and ask
questions, but he thought that nobody was sure what they thought. Mayor
Kirkham commented that those against the pro�ect have been coming to the
hearings and making their presence felt.
Mr. L.E Ransom, 195 63rd Way N.E., said that he worked for the Minnesota
Highway Department and that he would like to see a typical section of the
design, and asked that this be expanded upon. He asked about the berm section,
the shoulder sections and other techna.cal engineering factors. He felt that
this should be enlarged upon before the people could make their comments. He
said that he knew that regardless of what is done, the traffic will continue
to come down East River Road. He said that he did not even know how many lanes
were proposed and asked where he could go to see the plans. Mayor Kirkham
told him that working for the Highway Department he is accustomed to reading
these plans, the average person is not. Before this proposal goes along too
� far there has to be authorization £or £unds fox the drawings.
The City Engineer said that most of the people have been informed. There will
be four lanes, two going north and two south, with 10' shoulders, curb and
gutter and left and right hand turning lanes with three signals. There is to
be a walkway connecting Ra.vers Edge Way with the school for pedestrian traffic.
. � ; � i �
-� `
5PECIAL PUBLIC HEAE2ING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8� 1971 PAGE 13
Mr. Ransom asked if there would be 30' additional xight of way. The City '
Engineer said that it varies, in certain areas, yes. On the east side there
is the old Anoka Cuyuna right of way and there are no bua.ldings there, so
the proposal is to use this as part of the right of way. Mr. Ransom asked
about the influx of traffic from the north. Is there much land left to be
developed? Is the area to the north industrial or commercial� The City
Engineer said that there was some land left to be developed and showed him
on the map, and said that there were industrial, commercial and residential
areas. Mr. Ransom asked the tonage of East River Road and the City Engineer
said that it would be nine ton, as it is now.
Councilman Liebl said that he wanted to thank the people for coming before
the Council on three different occasions to voice their opinions on what they
feel they can live with. He said that he knew what they wanted and what they
could live with. East River Road has been studied for the last six years. He
said that he did want to say this: he is going to do something constructive
and he looked at this from somewhat a different direction. He asked if you
compare East River Road to T.H. #47 and T.H. #65? No: Those are main
thoroughfares of the City of Fridley and East River Road is mainly a County
road. He said that he has talked to quite a few engineers and he is against
widening East River Road as it is not a highway like T.H. #47 or #65. He
said that he was in favor of the intersections being developed properly. He
said that he resented it when people say that they are not doing anything.
He said that he would be in favor of the three intersections and using the
Federal money to buy the gas station out so that it could be developed. '
There are people who use East River Road and violate the.law, but the Police
Department has given tickets out and there has been a difference in the traffic.
There will be 800 cars coming from Georgetown, and they must have access onto
East River Road. He said that he respectfully disagreed with the City
�ngineer in that he did not feel the median would solve the problems and it
would be 10 times worse to get into an intersection. He advocated the Council
asking the Federal Government to participate in the intersections and the
semaphores and that the drainage should be put in. He commented that the
East River Road problems are not their £ault, nonetheless it is there. He
said that in the last two months there has been good maintenance, and thanked
Mike 0'Bannon, the County Commissioner, for doing his �ob well. He
recommended to the Council that East River Road be kept a park-like avenue,
and he would not advocate having another T.H. #47 going through Fridley. The
original plan would not have worked because the traffic would be too close
to the homes There would be the same problem in the first ward, and
acquisition costs would be very high. He said that the Council should act
unanimously as a body. He said that there has been an agreement signed and
they will be proceeding with the plans for the underpass under the railroad
tracks on Mississippi Street. In order to do this, they will have to acquire
the Mico Station. This intersectian is a death trap, and if they have to
condemn, this is what they should do. He said that he must advocate the
signalizat2on, putting in the proper intersections and also rigid law
enforcement. He said that he has seen the survey and out of 90 tickets, only
9 were given to residents of the City of Fridley. There is a storm sewer
problem on East River Road and this causes dangerous situations for the �
driving public, and this must be solved. He questioned where the storm
water would be going. He urged support of the Mayor and Council to get the
siqnals and the intersections properly constructed for the regulation of the
traffic. If they make East River Raad a highway like T.H. #47, then he
must oppose it.
�ac�c�
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971 PAGE 14
� Councilman Liebl then had to leave the Meeting.
Mr. George Danielson, 6305 Eaet River Road, said that he did not see why
there would have to be put in such an extensive storm drainage system in the
east area. All they would have to do is to put in 70' o£ pipe to connect
to the pipe now already in the ground. He said thank you to Councilman
Liebl for being honest and not beating around the bush. He said that the
people are in favor of signals and lowering the speed limit and urged that the
people involved write to their congressmen. He urged that the whole pro7ect
not be condemned, they must have the signals.
Mr. Richard Harris asked if the Federal funds are from T.O.P.I.C.S. and if
this is part o£ HUD.- The City Engineer said it was not a part of HUD, but
the Bureau of Public Roads. He added that the funds have already been
appropriated and Fridley was the second applicant approved. He added that
all 14 items that he outlined were basically the input from the public and he
hoped that it would satisfy the ma�ority of the people. There have been
quite a few meetings on this project. If there are any further changes made
Fridley will have to go back and request these changes.
Mr. Richard Brown said that Councilman Liebl made a proposal. When will the
Council take action� Mayor Kirkham saa.d that the Council policy is not to
act on Public Hearing nights, and it Will be on the next Regular Council
Agenda March lst. He also pointed out that there was one Councilman absent
tonight. He said that he could not agree with all that Councilman Liebl said.
� Councilman Liebl indicated that the project would take property from both
sides of the road, but it is only to be taken from the east side and the
road shifted to the east.
Councilman Kelshaw said that some of the audience have indicated that they are
anxious to know how the Council felt. He said that his answer is on Page
61 of the February Readers Da.gest.
A lady in the audience said that the City Engineer said that he could get
easements from the Anoka Cuyuna xange property and he talked as though it
would be free. She said that they own that property. Mayor S�irkham said
that that was once railroad property. Mr. Danielson said that that property
was donated to Anoka Cuyuna when the line was started. Since then the property
has reverted back to the property owners. He said that there were no
easements to be obtained there.
The City Engineex said that it was a 5�' easement and these were no structuxes
in this area. Mr. Danielson said that there were two structures on that
easement. The City Engineer said that in that area the road would be shifted
to the west. MayoY Kirkham commented that the City has inherited a problem
and are now trying to do something about it. Mr. Danielson said that it was
a foolish plan.
The City Engineer explained that the City cannot possibly �ust take the land,
there has to be fair compensation. If the Council and the County desire to
� proceed with the plan, then an appraisal would be made and the fee paid. If
the people are not satisfied with the result, then the district court would
appoint three appraisers to try to come to a faa.r price. If they are sta.11
not satisfied, then it can be taken to a higher court. If it can be proven
that the property is devaluated, then there must be compensation.
� �J �
W� ���
SPECIAL PUBLIC I-IEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8� 1971 PAGE 15
MOTION by Councilman Breider to close the Informal Public Hearing on the '
revised safety and road improvements for Cast River Road and ad�acent roads.
Seconded by Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Kirkham declared the motion carried and the hearing closed at 10:40 P.M.
RECESS:
Mayor Kirkham declared a recess from 10:40 to 11:00 P.M.
CONSIDERATION OF AUTHORTZING BIDS FOR STREET SWEEPER:
Mayor I:trkham said that he was not too sure that he wanted another machine
that goes around raising dust and leaving a ridge of sand in the street. The
Acting City Manager said that he asked the Purchasing Agent to check this out
with the Director of Public Works and he felt that the City needed a second
sweeper. Mayor Kirkham said that some communities use a tank and it is
flushed down the storm sewer. The City Engineer said that this would not
work in a community such as ours because there are not curbs and gutters on
all the streets.
The Parks and Recreation Director said that he also had talked to the Da.rector
of Public Works. He said that it is true that it does raise dust and the
driver wears a mask. He pointed out that there have been a lot of streets
developed since the purchase of the last street sweeper. The Director of
Public Works feels that they can give better sexvice to the community with
a second sweeper. He said that the ridges were left because it had p�obably ,
been four or five weeks since that street was done last. Mayox Kirkham said
that he understood that the sweeper covers the City about two or three times
a year. The Director of Parks and Recreation said that it is felt that with
an additional unit they could double the duty on the streets and keep them
in better shape.
The Acting City Manager said that there were two alternatives. First the
City could advertise for bids for a new sweeper, or it could be used on a
lease basis. The problem with the lease is that when it is needed in the
spring of the year, every other communrty would want one then too. The
Purchasing Agent advised purchasing new rather than used equipment.
The question was raised whether water was used when the streets were swept,
and the City Engineer said that it was.
Mayor Kirkham said that whether rt is leased or bought, the City would still
pay for it 12 months a year. Councilman Kelshaw said that it was true that
a number of streets have been added. The Acting City Managex said that the
Director of Public Works feels that they could cut down on the sewes
maintenance with the addition of another sweeper. It is provaded for in the
budget.
MOTION by Councilman Breider to aithorize advertising for bids for a new
street sweeper. Seconded by Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a voice vote, all �
voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the mota.on carried. �
�
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING NIEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971
RECEIVING FRIDLEY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION REPORT FDR 1
PAGE 16
MOTION by Councilman Breider to receive the Fridley Industrial Development
Commission report far 1970. 5econded by Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Nlayor Rirkham declared the motion carried.
RESOLUTION #21-1971 - A RESOLUTION IMPOSING LOAD LSMITS ON POBLIC STREETS AND
HIGHWAYS IN THE CITY OF FRIDLEY:
MOTION by Councilman Kelshaw to adopt Resolution #21-1971. Seconded by
Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham
declared the motion carried.
CONSIDERATION OF CHANGE IN AUTHORSZED EBPENDITURLS FOR THE PARK AND
RECREATION DEPARTMEN`P:
The Parks Director passed out a sheet that explained the reasons for the
overtime needed, prepared by Ralph Volkman, Park Foreman. Councilman
Kelshaw asked if all the people that use the hockey rinks are Fridley
residents. The Parks Director said that there are some traveling teams, all
from the North Suburban Metropolitan area. Councilman Kelshaw asked when
Fridley plays away, if there is an expense for using thea.r rinks and the
Parks Director said no.
' Councilman Breider asked what time the night shift begins. The Parks
Director said 8:00 P.M. Their schedule goes according to the weather
conditions and the schedules for the 15 rinks. They can probably do five
rinks a night. The reason for the request for the transfer to cover the
overtime is to get the funds up to what was spent in years previously.
The Parks and Recreation Commission has approved the transfer. It is true
that an additional man was added to the staff, but there are certaa.n things
that still have to be done and it did not relieve the pressure of work
needing to be done at night. It is impossible to do any w�rk on the rinks
after 3:00 when school lets out. There a.s not enough time in a normal day
to do all these rinks. There has been an incxeased use of Locke Paxk and
there has also been a big increase in vandalism. He said that the reasons
for the overtime are very basic and are almost a must.
,
The Acting City Manager asked about temporary help as opposed to overtime.
The Parks Director saa.d that they use temporary help during the wintex at
night. To flood a rink they need three men and sometimes two crews are put
on, It takes two men to kandle the hose. The temporary help does not
drive the equipment, only the regular men. He pointed out that the hockey
program has greatly increased and they have added additional hockey rinks.
Councilman Breider asked if he would say that 900 of the overtime was spent on
the hockey program. The Parks Director said not 90%, but certainly the
ma�ority of it. 650 - 70� would be for the winter work, not necessarily
7ust hockey. Councilman Breider asked how many hours of overtime they would
work a week. The Parks Director said that they would work about 4 hours
a night, but they do not go out every night. It all depends on the weather.
You cannot make good ice when it is too cold. The season starts in December
and goes through the end of February. Some of the buildings will be closed
down soon. The program is only supported for three months. Councilman
Breider asked if they start at 8:00 P.M., is this in additiott to what they
���;
.� , �_'� '1
( � i
Ln ' '1
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8, 1971
PAGE 17
do during the day? The Parks Director said yes. Councilman Breider
asked what were their regular hours during the week. The Parks Director
said 8:D0 A.M. to 4:30 P.M. Councilman Breider asked what the men do
during the day if they are not working on the rinks. The Parks Director
said general park maintenance such as warming house repair. Councilman
Breider asked if there was any possibility of staging the work shifts and
having some crews work evenings rather than during the day. The Parks
Director said that this was a union pxoblem with the xegular men. He
tried to do this and did not receive a favorable response. He said that
he would like to but he did not haue the powez because of the union.
This could possibly be negotiated further with the union. He pointed out
that the crews work during the day also making ice.
Councilman Breider said that he understood from the information handed out
that it takes two weeks to make ice. The Parks Director explained that
this is initially, at the beginning of the season. This has been a good
season as there was not much snow when they made the rinks. The rinks are
in good shape this year, but every winter is different. He said that the
$5,000 �ust is not enough to covex the overtime. He said that this is not
7ust a whim, but seems necessary to maintain the rinks in good shape.
Councilman Breider asked al�out Item #6, and said that it seems that the men
are working seven days a week. The Parks Director said yes, but not all
day, �ust in the morning and evening, and amounts to about two hours
each day The permanent men alternate.
Councilman Breider asked, as to the vandalism, if it was necessary to make
the repairs on the weekend. The Parks Director explained that the vandalism
is such tha.ngs as broken windows and doors, taking wooden slats and dumping
the picnic tables into the creek among other things.
The Acting City Manager asked if he had a man that came on at 3:00 or
4:00 P M, in the afternoon, would he be able to cut down on the overtime
with using the temporary help. The Parks Director said yes. A lot of ovex-
time by the permanent people is in a supervisory capacity.
Councilman Kelshaw asked how much the temporary and permanent people are
paid. It was explained that the permanent people get in the area of
$728 -$740 per month and the temporary starts at $2.00 per hour. The
temporary help also gets time and one half for overtime. The Actinq City
Manager added that it figures out to be about $4.00 per hour for the
pe�anent men. Councilman Kelshaw asked if there were any guarantees of
overtime. The Parks Director said no, it all depends on the weather.
Some weeks it may be nice weather all week and they can work every iiight,
but if it Ys 18 below, they cannot make ice. He added that if five people
were working, two would be permanent and three temporary.
Councilman Breider said that he would like the rotating of shifts investigated
further. He asked if the Parks Departrnent were in immediate difficulty.
The Parks Director answered no. Councilman Breider said that they would
keep the trans£er of £unds in mind and in the meantime he asked that this
rotation plan be checked out.
'
,
,
'
,
�
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY S, 1971
PAGE 18
Mayor Kirkham said that the Council would continue to consider this item and
in the meantime he asked that it be checked out. He asked that a.t be placed
on the next Regular Agenda.
LICENSES:
Solicrtors
Order of .7ob's Daughters
920 Lowry Ave. No.
Minneapolis, Minn.
Gas Station
White Knight
7300 University Avenue
Fridley, Minnesota
General Contractor
Patio Roof Builders
4779 Osseo Road
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Masonry
Rogue Swenson & Sons
4914 Shady Oak Road
Minnetonka, Minnesota
Sign Erector
By: T.L. Lidberg
By: Heskin & Assoc.
By- Joseph Judge
By: Rogue Swenson
Schubert Outdoor Adv. Co.
2508 East 25th Street
Minneapolis, Minnesota By: Lawrence Schubert
Approved By
Fire Inspector
Building Inspector
Building Inspector
Building Inspector
Building Inspector
Councilman Breider asked what the .Tob's Daughters would be selling. A
representative of Job's Daughters said that the girls would be selling such
items as candles, light bulbs, candy etc. This is a non-profit making
organization and he is requesting the Council to waive the license fee.
There are approximately 128 in this qroup and they would be selling 3- 4
times a year, so if each girl had to pay the $10 license fee, it would be
very expensive. There are many residents of Fridley belonging to the club.
The money from the sales is used to support old people's homes, nursing
homes etc. He said that they recently asked for the same thing in Columbia
Heights.
Mayor Kirkham said that he felt that waiving the £ee would be in keeping
with Council policy in the past. The license fee was intended to control
people coming from outside Fridley.
MOTION by Councilman Kelshaw to grant the solicitors license to Job's
Daughters Bethel 19 and omit the $10 per salesman fee. Seconded by
Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham
declared the motion carried.
v��>,s�
��,T��9
� 3 i
I
.�..1 � ✓ �_
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OE FEBRUARY 8� 1971 PAGE 19
MOTION by Councilman Breider to approve of the xemaining licenses as presented.
Seconded by CounciIman Kelshaw. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Kirkham declared the motion carried.
CLARIFICATION ON ITEM IN PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF
DECEhiBER 28, 1970 - REF$RENCE FLANERY PARK:
The Parks Director said that this item has been taken care of. The delay on
turning in the check was due to a misunderstanding and he talked to the
Flanery estate this afternoon and the check has been signed and put in the
mail. The only stipulations on the $1000 check is that she wanted a plaque
put up. The Parks Director told her that he would have one made and put
inside the shelter building. This would cost $50 -$60 and the remainder
is to be used for Flanery Park. He said that he would start buying apparatus.
ESTIMATES.
Harvey Peterson Company
151 Glen Creek Road
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55432
Riedel vs City of Fridley
2 days in court @ $100
Weaver, Talle & Herrick
316 Main Street East
Anoka, Minnesota 55303
Sanuary Retainers and for other services
rendered. Dated February 2, 1971
$ 250.00
$1,963.80
MOTION by Councilman Kelshaw to approve payment of the estimates as presented.
Seconded by Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Kirkham declared the motion carried.
APPOINTMENT: REPRESENSATIVE TO MANAGEMENT TEAM TO COORDSNATE A TRANSPORTATION
STUDY:
MOTION by Councilman Breider to appoint Nasim Qureshi, City Engineer, to the
managenent team to coordinate a transportation study. Seconded by Councilman
Kelshaw. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Magor Kirkham declared the
motion carried.
CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST BY CHESTER EWER FOR WHIVER OF PLUMBING CODE TO
ALLOW PLASTIC PIPE:
MOTION by Councilman Breider to approve the waiver of the plumbing code to
allow plastic pipe to be used by Chester Ewer, 1565 73rd Avenue N.E.
Seconded by Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Kirkham declared the motion carried.
RECEIVING MEMO FROM CITY MAIQAGER
� REGARDING LEASE OF PROPERTY 50UTH OF I. 6S
�ITH BURLINGTON
MOTION by Counca.lman Breider to receive the memorandum from the Acting City
Manager dated February 5, 1971. Seconded by Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried.
1
�III
'
'
�
'
SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF FEBRUARY S, 1971
COMMONICATION F&OM THE ATTORNEY FOR METROPOLITAN SEWER BOARD:
MOTION by Councilman Kelshaw to receive the communication from Dorsey,
Maxquart, Windhorst, West & Halladay, signed by Thomas S. Hay dated
February 8, 1971. Seconded by Councilznan Breides. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried.
PAGE 20
The City Attorney said that he assumed that he was to respond favorably.
MOTION by Councilman Kelshaw to instruct the City Attorney to agree with the
communication and indicate Fridley's interest in the proposal. Seconded by
Councilman Breidex. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Y.irkham
declared the motion carried.
There being no further business, Mayor Kixkham declared the Special Public
Hearing and Workshop Meeting of February S, 1971 ad�ourned at 11 50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
�
�- G -' !- � % �� � r. � � ''✓ '
Juel Mercer
Secretary to the City Council
Jack O. Kirkham
Mayor
v �, �� �
�� ,. _,�