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� THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING NIEETING OF JUNE 12, 1972
The Special PuHlic Hearing Meeting oP the Fridley City Council of the City of
Fridley was convened at 7-35 P.M., .7une 12, 1972.
PLEDGE OF .ALLEGIANCE:
Mayor Liebl led the Council and the audience in saying the Pledge of Allegiance
to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Liebl, Utter, Mittelstadt, Breider
MEMBERS ABSENT None
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to adopt the Agenda as submitted. Seconded by
Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote, all ayes, Mayor Liebl declared the motion
carried unanimously.
SLIDE SHOW PRESENTATION BY LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS -"TALE OF TWO CREEKS"-
� The slide show was narrated by Mrs. Wilbur Whitmore, and showed the destruction
of Sattle Creek as compared to Rice Creek which has been relatively untouched.
The emphasis is upon preserving Rice Creek and not allowing it to become the
eyesore Battle Creek has become. Mayor Liebl thanked tl�e League £or pointing
out the problems so graphically and said that he hoped that measures would be
found to prevent this erosion. Mrs. Whitmore said that the signs cannot be
ignored especa.ally since Fridley is the downstream community. She then showed
a map of the watershed district on the easel.
PUBLIC HEARING ON REZONING REQUEST ZOA #72-04, LEIGH INVESTMENT, INC., TO REZONE
FROM R-1 (5INGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS) TO CR-1 (GENERAL OFFICE AND LIMITED BUSINESS)
63RD WAY AND EAST RIVER ROAD: MR. JOHN DOYLE
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RECEIVING PETITION #7-1972 AGAI�i5T THE REZOt7ING:
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RECENING PETITION #6-1972 FOR THE REZONING.
The City Manager read the pul�lic hearing notice at the request o£ Mayor Liebl and
the City Engineer showed the location on the overhead pro7ector.
1 MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to receive Petition #7-1972 against the rezoning.
Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all ayes, Mayor Liebl declared
the motion carried unanimously.
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MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to receive Petitlon #6-1972 in Pavor of the '
rezoning. Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all ayes, Mayor
Liebl declared the motion carried unanunously.
Mayor Liebl informed the audience that the Council would allot 30 minutes for
this hearing as there are many other items on the agenda and other people would
like to be heard. He then asked Mr. John Doyle to make a presentation.
Mr. Doyle came forward and placed a sketch of the existing dwelling on the easel
and said that he has presented his plans to the Council previously, but he would
again for the benefit o£ the residents from the area. This is at the intersection
of 63rd Way and East River Road and he plans on remodeling the existing building
to make it look like a chalet type of building and adding a£oyer, with the
building to be used £or a small real estate of£ice. He then showed a sketch
of what he was proposing. He said he also plans on adding a 10 car_parking lot,
which should be more than adequate to cover the needs of this of£ice. He said
he would not be disturbing any green areas or the privacy hedges and there would
not be access off East River Road, but the access would be from 63rd Yday. He is
not proposing to do anything dif£erent than what many other agencies have done,
such as D.C. Bell and Mr. DeGardner's o£fice on about 80th and East River Road.
He is not intending to disrupt the neighborhood and he is certainly not intending
to build a£actory and he does not want to put in multiple dwelling un�ts. He
said it was not his desire to build single family homes in this area, he simply
wants to put in his office and carry out his business, whether by rezoning or
special use permit, he did not care. He felt that in no way would this be a �
detriment to the neighborhood and as a property owner, he had the right to ask
for Council consideration on his request. He had occasion to sit in on a Council
meeting in another city and a similar instance came up. The proposal was for
rezoning and there was a lot of neighborhood ob�ection. Their City Attorney
toog great care to explain to the Council and the audience that it is the
constitutional right o£ a property o�rner to come an and ask for a rezoning or
special use permit and unless that rezoning does have a detrimental effect on
someone else in the area, that it should be given very serious considezation.
This proposal lends rtself to being used as a bu£fer zone, and would not be
making a drastic change. There are areas zoned for duplexes close by, and light
industrial only ': block away on the tracks. I£ at any �uture t.une he should
have to sell the property, Por anyone else to use it for anything othex than what
it would be zoned for, would require another hearing. The CR-1 zoning category
is a very restrictive zoning. He said he also understood that i£ he was to
change the use of the existing property, he would again have to come be£ore the
Council. CR-1 is a zoning only conducive to real estate of£ices, doctor's
o£fices or something of that nature.
Mayor Liebl asked his estimated investment and Mr. Doyle said that he thought the
house would need new siding, and with the addition o£ the £oyer and the glass, plus
the parking lot and driveway, he thought in the range of $8,000 to $10,000.
Mayor Liebl asked if Mr. Doyle is the owner of the six 40 foot lots and Mr. Doyle
replied yes. Mayor Liebl asked, i£ the Council did not grant the CR-1 zoning �
change, what would his interests by in the property then? Mr. Doyle answered that
if the zoning was le£t as it is, there would be a couple of choices left open
to them, none of them what he felt would be satisiactory. The first would be
to rent the house out, but he da.d not feel that would be acceptable. The next
choice would be to either purchase the house there now or tear it down and build
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, new houses. This property is bounded on one side by East River Road and on
the other by railroad tracks and he did not think the ma�ority of home buyers
would want to buy a$30,D00 -$40,000 home in this area. This would mean that
the house built would have to be in the lower $20,000 range.
Mayor Liebl said that the suburbs are required by the Metropolitan Council to
re-evaluate their comprehensive plans and the Council has instructed the Planning
Commission to come up with a plan for Fridley. He asked how long this real
estate office would be at this location, and what if the people desired another
rezoning, such as industrial, would Mr. Doyle oppose this or work with the
people and the Council? Mr. Doyle said he would work with the people in the
area, and added that he is trying to now. Mayor Liebl asked if Mr. Doyle would be
selling the lots in A1 Rose Addition. Mr. Doyle said he would like to, but when
he bought this lot, he did not know they were there. He said he chose this pro-
perty because of its proximity to East River Road, among other things.
Mayor Liebl then asked £or comments £rom the audience in Pavor o£ this rezoning.
Mr. John Mickman said that he lives next door to where Mr. Doyle conducts his
present busa.ness, and there is no disadvantage in living next door to him. He
is a good neighbor and there is not a_lot of traffic going in and out. I£ he were
to put in 10 parking spaces, that should more than take care of what he wants to
work into in the £uture. He said he was in Pavor of the rezoning.
Mr. A.C. Mattson, 6320 R�.verview Terrace, said that he had lived behind Holly
� Shopping Center be.fore it was built, and if he and all his nea.ghbors had banded
together to oppose the center, it would not have been built and would not be
available to service the community. Nobody would want to live on �ast River
Road, the land there is only good for 235 homes, especially with industrial
zona.ng only '� block away. That kind of housing £alls into a state of disrepair
quickly. This man is trying to make the area useable, and in his opa.nion, it
was a good use. There are double bungalows across the street, so there is al-
ready traffic. He said he is selling the lots in A1 Rose Addition through Mr.
DeGardner's firm, so Mr. Doyle is actually a competitor, but this type of service
is needed in Fridley to make it grow. Under this proposal, there would be no
children, but if there were 235 homes, there would probably be children and there
would be more chance of children being killed on East River Road. He said he has
nothing to do with Mr. Doyle, but he had asked him to speak because he works out
oP Mr. DeGardner's office on 80th and East R1.ver Road. That house and the grounds
are kept in very nice condition.
Mr. 01e B�erkesett, 100 63�, Way N.E., said he lived in this area and a man came
around with a petrtion and talked o£ "smoke stacks and warehouses". He said he
thought the people have been misin£ormed. 'rhe question here is }low many are for
or against within the 300 £eet that is stipulated. With the many names on the
petition, there had to be people that are not close enough to be involved one
way or the other. There are only about 60 homes in this area. He said his con-
tact with his neighbors indicated they were in iavor o£ the proposal.
' Mayor Liebl said that the Council will now listen to those that wish to speak in
opposition.
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Mr. Paul Kumhera, 132 63': Way N.E., said that he had helped circulate the petition, '
including a visit to the man who last spoke. He said he had done his best to
make himself clear and in some cases made two visits. He said he did not remember
talking abQUt any "factories" and tried his best to give the true situation. He
said his point was that i£ this was allowed in the middle of residential zoning,
it would have to be allowed up and down the street and would end up being a
commercial area. He asked Mr. Doyle, i£ someone on his block wanted something
like this, would he be opposed to it? He asked why is a radius of only 300 feet
considered; further away people would also be a£fected. He £elt that the people
on River Edge Way would be af£ected and they are concerned that it would lower
their property values. He said he was across East River Road £rom this site, but
he could see it, and he felt it would increase trafPic, which is already bad.
He said he did not understand why Mr. Doyle did not go into a commercial area, he
would be glad to have a commercial enterprise come into Fridley, but not in an
area zoned for residences.
Mayor Liebl said that as to the concern about tra£fic problems, under the present
zoning a person could put in three homes and what would that do to the tra££ic
situation? Also, under the present zoning, 235 homes could go in and the Council
could not stop them. He asked Mr. Kumhera if he would rather have low income
housing come in? Mr. Kumhera said he could not speak for anyone else, but he
would rather have the land stay R-1 because tlzen it would not be setting a pre-
cident. He said he was not £amiliar with the 235 program. He adcled that he knew
of a gentleman who owned a$25,000 home and wanted to move it onto a lot he
owned on Locke Lake, but he could not because the homes there are in the $50,000 �
range. If the City has that power, why can't they control the low income housing?
Mayor Liebl said that many of the citizens had asked the City Council to stop
Vern Donnay from putting in the 235 homes, but the Council does not have that legal
right. The residents did not want this type of construction, but it was zoned
properly. Mr. ➢oyle could do this also, then the residents would be saddled with
10 times more problems. Ae said he was not an advocate oE spot zoning,but he
must evaluate what is in the best interests of the community. He must also
question how much tax money the City will receive, then how much would have to
go back out in maintenance and service wsts. It is entirely possible that if
there were three 235 homes built, there could be up to 20 children. This area
cannot stay as it is now, and the Council must look at this request from all
angles, but they certainly did not want any more traffic on East River Road
either. Mr. Kumhera said that he �ust did not want the whole area turned into a
commercial area.
Mr. Doyle said he was asked how would he like rt if someone came into the block
where he lived and asked for this. He said he has three businesses in his
immediate neighborhood (not in Fridley), one is the next thing to a general
merchandise sale; it is a continuous sale out o£ a garage, Ae said he does not
ob�ect and neither do his neighbors. He said neither would he be opposed to
rezoning to commercial. He added there are already businesses working out of homes
in Fridley now.
N1r. Ed Ellis, 70 63rd Way N.E., said that he did not ob�ect to the real estate ,
o£fice, but Mr. Doyle has said that he could not use the property under a special
use permit, that he needs the rezoning. He did not think anyone would want
commercial coming into a neighUorhood where people have been paying their t�es
on their homes for their whole life. This could not help but degradethe pro-
perty; 235's could not be worse. He said, in his opinion,he did not think the
people are ob7ecting to the real estate of£ice, only the rezoning.
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' NLr. Gerald Gerber, 6275 East River Road, said he lives across the street and he
is opposed to the rezoning. Mxs. Gerbes said that Mr. Doyle mentioned Mr.
DeGardner's office, however, he lives in that home. She said she would have no
objection to the real estate office but she would ob�ecL- to the rezoning. As
far as chldren on the east side of East River Road are concerned, on that side
of the street they are bused• She said they have a nice quiet neighborhood,
granted there is a.ndustrial property along the tracks, but she has lived in
her home 23 - 24 years and it has been zoned industrial si.n.ce she moved in.
They knew it was then and took their chances. She said she £eels she is being
threatened that she will have to accept the real estate office or have low in-
come housing and she resents it.
Councilman Breider said he got the £eeling from the Planning Commission Minutes
and again tonight that the people are concerned al�out the rezoning, hut not the
office. Mr. Elliot said yes, they are concerned about a checkerboard type of
zoning startirig in their area. Councilman Breider said that when the improvement
of East River Road was discussed, there was some thought to chanying the zoning
along East Ra.ver Road, and that maybe the people would want to in�.tiate some
action, however, the City will not staxt it, it will have to be petitioned for
by the property owners.
A member of the audience asked who could qualify for a 235 loan. Councilman
Brea.der said the situation is such that a builder can apply for H.F. 235 funding
£rom the HUD offices and can come into Fridley and build a home meeting the
� minimum Code requirements provided the zoning is proper.
Mr. R. Humann, 40 62� Way 1V.E., said he was against the rezoning and asked Por
a show of hands. Mayor Liebl asked how many opposed the rezoning, wzth approxi-
mately 12 hands ra�sed. He then asked how many were for the rezoninq with 3
hands raised. He then asked how many were �or the real estate of£ice without
the rezoning with about 15 hands raised.
Mayor Liebl in£ormed the audience that the Council does not take action at the
public heasing meetinq, but that this item would be on the Agenda June 19, 1972.
He then thanked the people £or coming and e7cpressing their opinions.
MOTION by Councilman Ma.ttelstadt to close the public hearing on the rezoning
request ZOA #%2-04 by Leigh Investment, Inc. Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon
a voice vote, a71 ayes, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanunously and
the hearing closed at 8:40 P,M.
PUBLIC HEARING ON SHOREWOOD PLAZA FINAL PLAT P.S #,69-12 BY MAX SALITERMAN:
MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to waive the reading of the publa.c hearing notice.
Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voa.ce vote, all ayes, Mayor Liebl declared
the motion carried unaniznously.
Mayor Liebl asked if Mr. Saliterman and the Crty have agreed to the 5 stipulations
outlined in his letter dated May S, 1972, and Mr. Wyman Smith, Attorney £or Mr.
� Saliterman, replied yes, he had met with the Crty Staf£ on behalf of Mr. Saliterman
on the items listed in his letter. The preliminary plat was presented to the
Council a number of years ago and has been pending since then. Since there has
been an understanding reached, the final plat can be prepared. Suburban
Engineering is working with Mr. Salitexman on the details of the plat such as
the utilities, which still have to be drawn in. There is a drainage easement
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held by the City of Fridley and he would agree with the City Attorney, that '
the Charter requires the City to vacate this land by ordinance and convey rt
back to N1r. Saliterman who will an turn provide a storm sewer easement in his
plat. His understanding was that even though the deed is restricted to storm
sewer use, it would have to be vacated by ordinance. There are a number of
utility lines serving Shorewood that have not been properly identi£ied. The
description is very long and one of the £ruits of the plat would be to eliminate
the metes and bounds description, and the description would be a simple one with
lots and blocks.
The Acting City Attorney said he did not anticipate any problems with the utility
easements, so the ordinance for the vacation could be prepared. Councilman Utter
said �there have been complaints about the area and he noticed in the agreement
there is a provision for the clean-up o£ the property. He noticed that the stumps
have been removed. It seems there has been a lot of fill removed and he wondered
what Mr. Saliterman was going to do about the steep banks. Mr. Smith said that
they were going to be coming in with plans for a proposed building �vexy soon.
The plans are being drawn by the architect now. The plans are to expand the
Sears building to the east. For that reason the east side of the building was
not bricked. The north side of the Country Club block of buildings will be
painted and cleaned. He understood the stumps and trees have been removed and
when the equipment is brought in for the groundwork £or the new building, the
rest of the levelling etc, will be taken care of.
Mr. Henry Peterson, 6312 Pierce Street N.E., said he has lived in this area 15 ,
years. At one time the Frostop Drive-In wanted to go into 5horewood, but the
residents ob�ected and they located on Osborne Road. He said he would like to
know what was planned to go into this shopping center. Mayor Liebl explained
that the plat is only being considered at this time. It is a commercial area, but
plans have not been submitted as yet. Mr. Peterson said he did not want any
drive-zns. Mayor Liebl sa.zd he did not believe Mr. 5aliterman would use such
valuable land for such an endeavor.
MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to receive the wmmunication from Mr. iayman
Smith dated May 8, 1972 and approve the five stipulations as conditions £or
approval of the Pinal plat. Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote,
all ayes, Mayor Liebl declared the motian carried unanimously.
MOTION by Councilman Utter to close the public hearing on the preliminary plat
P.S. #69-12 by Max Saliterman. Seconded by Councilman Mittelstadt. Upon a voice
vote, all ayes, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously and the hearing
closed at 5:50 P.M.
INFORMAL HEARING ON SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #72-07, BY REYNOL➢ E. SWANSON, TO OPERATE
A MOBILE HOME SALES LOT AT 7151 T.H. $k65_
Mr. Reynold Swanson said he was asking the Council consideration £or renewal of
a special use permzt that has been exzsting on this property since 1969. He
has submitted a plot plan with some changes they would like to make, which shows
how the homes would sit on the 1ot. He said he presently works for Castle �
Mobile Homes. Castle has expanded greatly and he hoped that in running this
business, he could exyand also. I3e said he has been brought up in the City of
Fridley. The permit that exists on the property for Castle expires Suly Sth.
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, Mayor Liebl said this is actually not the correct procedure, the request should
have gone to the Planning Commission £a.rst. The City has had a little trouble
with Castle and there was some dif£iculty in en£orcing what was to be done.
He added that he hoped Castle Mobile Homes would do what they have promised at
their new location. Fridley has two trailer courts which are very nice areas o�
the City. Mr. Don Harstad owns this lot, and the permit would be considered in
the nature oP a temporary permit for the use of the land. There are some
people in the City of Fridley that are opposed to having too many mobile home
sales lots, but he realized that all people cannot afford to buy an expensive
home.
Councilman Mittelstadt said that when th�.s special use permit was granted in
1969, the request went be£ore the subrommrttees and there were stipulations
imposed.
MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to instruct that these stipulations that were
imposed an Castle Mobile Homes be sent back to the Planrung Commission for them
to review to see if they were followed, and if not, why not. They are also
requested to review their plot plan, and to place this item on thea.r next Agenda.
He would also mwe to extend the special use permit until the Planning Commission
foswards their recommendation and Council action is taken, due to the fact that
their permit expires July 8, 1972 and the first Council Meeting in July is the
lOth. Seconded by Councilman Breider.
� Councilman Utter said that this lot has been used Por mobile home sales, the
property belongs to Mr. Harstad, but as long as he does not have immediate plans
£or expansion, the property might as well be put to use. Mr. Harstad said that
in defense of Castle Mobile Homes, they could not use the full width of the 1ot
because of loading docks 7ust to the north, they had to make some ad7ustments
in the placement of their trailers. If they were guilty of anything, it was �ust
because they did too much business of£ that lot He said he would like to see an
extension of the permit, and added that at present he is building an industrial
building on Beech Street and he has his hands full with that so he would like the
lot to be used £or this puxpose.
Councilman Breider said that when Castle relocated, there was some discussion
that this was very valuable land, but there was no immediate use, so the Council
allowed Castle to go in. This same is true with their old lot next to Harstad's,
but as to Mr. Swanson's comments about expanding in the future, he would have to
say that personally, he is not prone to allowing trailer sales on commercial
property. His reason is mainly because of the tax structure, they cannot be
taxed on a permanent structure basis. Ae said he would be agreeable to an
extension of the special use perma.t but he wanted it understood that when that
time lapses, that would be the last time he would be agreeable to an extension.
THE VOTE UPON THC MOTIQN, being a voice vote, all votzng aye, Mayor Liebl declared
the motion carried unanimously.
I.ICENSES:
' TYPe of License
Cigarette
By
Canterbury Inne
6481 Universrty Avenue
Dean Gruye
Approved By
Police
Fee
$12.00
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LICENSES CONTINUED:
Type of License
Tavern
On Sale Beer
sy
Canterbury Inne
6481 Universrty Ave.
Dean Gruye
Canterbury Inne
6481 University Ave
Approved Hy
Health Insp
Police
Health Insp
Police
Fee
$12.00
$120.00
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MOTION by Councilman Breider to approve the licenses as subuutted. 5econded by
Councilman Mittelstadt. Upon a voice vote, all ayes, Mayor Liebl declared the
motion carried unanimously.
REPORT OF THE ISI,AND OF PEACE COMMITTEE:
Mr. Elmer Olson, Chairman o£ the Island o£ Peace Committee, said that April 7th
the Council authorized the £ormation of the Comnattee to look into the three
islands. On April 13, 1972 there taas a meeting with the State of Minnesota
Planning Agency to cltscuss funding of the project using LAWCON £unds. Also
discussed was the construction of the pro�ect. He suggested the discussion
tonight be broken down into four phases with the first phase removing the
vegetation and building trails, docks, roadways, and the parking lot. On this
phase the Committee has been working wrth the Seabees and he asked Commander
Lind to speak on this phase.
Corc¢nander Jim Lind, U.S. Naval Seal�ees, said that on various weekends they go
out onto certain pro7ects as good wxll missions, such as the YMCA, the Girl
Scouts, Campfire Girls, Camp New Hope and Camp Omega. There are 62 of£icers
in the unit and they use these good will projects for training pxo�ec'ts during
the summer. He saa.d they have an added interest in this pro7ect because the
disabled veterans could have been any one of them. He said they only required
a letter o£ no ob7ection and a letter o£ no liability. He said their own
personnel are covered with their insurance. Their unit is very interested in
participating and they can go onto the same pro,7ect two times in one fiscal
year, so they £eel they could do the work on the weekends without much difficulty.
N1r. Olson then introduced Mr. Bill Hopk�.ns ot the Minnesota Society of the Blind,
who said they feel this is a very unique pro�ect calling for a di,fferent type of
facilities. He said he had helped with the development of Camp Courage and he has
talked to a lot of people about this pro�ect; Island of Peace. There are a lot
of possibilities to work with such as providing a hard sur£ace from the trail into
each picnic area so that people in wheelchairs could get into the picnic areas.
Also to be provided would be a rope guide rail to assist the blind.people. The
docks would have to be like any other except that they would have to have rails
to keep the wheelchaa.r patients from going over into the water.
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Mr. Elmer Olson said that the concept of keeping the island in as natural a '
state as possible has been kept in mind throughout the discussions and everyone
is unanimous on that idea. The second phase is consideration of sanitation
facilities. For the use of the island, sanitation £acilities must be provided
and in this case Fridley is most £ortunate in that Chase Island is actually a
peninsula. He then introduced Mr. Dave Ridler o£ Ridler & Mooney, Inc.,
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Plumbing Contractors, who have helped them so far a.n estimat�.ng the cost.
N1r. Ridler said that in his opinion the sanitation facilities would be no
problem. The access would be put in to Chase Island, then it would only be a
matter o£ putting in a standard li£t station and pumping up to Anna Avenue.
Councilman Mittelstadt asked what about facilities for the other islands and
Ms. Ridler said there would be none on the other two islands.
Ms. Olson said the third phase to consider is the shelter building, which also
has many unique Peatures. He then introduced Mr. Foster Dunwiddie o£ Dunwiddie,
Miller Architects, 3nc.
Nlr. Dunwiddie came forward and put a sketch of what is proposed far the shelter
building on the easel. He said Chase Island breaks down into two areas; the
higher portion is to the north and tha.s is where they propose to put the buildtng
On the lower southerly portion they propose to have the picnic areas and nature
trails. He showed some preliminary plans and said it would be a simple building
with a shelter area on the north side and a more enclosed area on the south side
with the toilet facilities, offa.ces and storage areas in the center. Part of the
shelter building would have overhead doors that could be closed down i.f wished
The glazed area would be all plexi-glass. When Bill Hopkins asked him to work
on this pro7ect last March, he said he was happy to do it. He said he has done
a great deal of work with the handicapped and their organizations and also the
part of the State Building Code which deals with the facilities for the handi-
capped.
Mr. Olson said the fourth phase deals with maintenance, security and operation.
He said he understood throughthe Committee working with the State of Minnesota,
that there are .funds available £or this purpose from the Forestry Service.
Before they make any commitment, they would like to meet with the Crty Council
and the City Manager, however.
Counca.lman Mittelstadt asked Commander Lind when his unit could begin work.
Commander Lind replied maybe in October, more likely next spring. Councilman
Mittelstadt asked Mr. Olson iP they had a taxget date and Mr. Olson replied they
have had many, however, it seems that there are many procedures to go through
which all take time. He said what he would like specifically from the Council
tonight is to direct the Administration to start application for LAWCON funds.
Councilman Breider said that in the past discussions he had menta.oned the fact
that to apply for LAWCON funds, the City would have to prove it had the remaining
25�. Under the provisions of the LAWCON grant section, if a grant is approved
there are 18 months in which to exercise the grant. Mr. Olson said that State
and Federal funds will be used for 75� of the cost and the other 25% will be the
responsiba.lity of the Cammittee. He said the Committee has been working on the
phrasing of the brochure for collection of funds and they hope to collect the
funds principally £rom the veterans and sensice organizations. He thought the
brochure would be ready to go out in 30 days Because of their rules and regu-
lations this proposal has to go through their executive sta£f at the state
level £irst.
Mr. Olson said that he believed Mr. Ed Wilmes had a letter he wished to read to
the Council. Mr.Wilmes said that the U.S. Forestry Service has pledged their
cooperation with the State Forestry Service for help in maintenance and operation.
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There is a fund available for certain pro�ects which allows 10°a on a 2 year ,
basis, so funds could be applied for in the amount o£ about $30,000 £or the
£irst two years. A grou� of Fridley High School students came out to help and
£ought the mosquitoes and underbrush, and he said he certainly appreciated their
help. He then read the letter signed by Lori Kondziolka, 585D Hackmann Avenue,
Chaa.rman, which states that she and a group o£ students will continue to help
throughout the summer and also to help with the people when they start coming
out. He said he would like to congratulate these young people, their teachers
and parents and everyone that has helped on this pro�ect so tar. He said he
had contacted the Veterans Hospital and they will work on cleaning up picnic
ta]�les that have been salvaged from the Mississippi River.
MOTION by Councilman Breider to instruct the Administration to prepare the grant
application for LAWCON £unds wrth the stipulation the remaining 25o is to be the
responsibility of the Island of Peace Committee. The motion was seconded and upon
a voice vote, all ayes, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carrzed unanimously.
Nir. John Krist, 148 River Edge Way, asked where the access would be to the northern
uncharted island. Mx. Olson saa.d access would only be to Chase Island and from
there flat barge-type Hoats would be used to get to the other two islands. This
will have to be a special boat designed £or wheelchair patients.
Councilman Mittelstadt said he had been informed the Governos would like to come
out. Mr. Wilmes said he thought some time in the next few weeks would be
appropriate. Mayor Liebl suggested an invrtation be extended from the City �
of Fridley and the Committee. Mr. Wilmes said that Mr. Travis Roberts, Director
of U.S. Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, has said when technical assistance
is needed, he will be available. It has long been his hope that an area could
be set aside as a wa.ldli£e refuge.
Mayor Liebl extended his thank you on behal£ of the City Council to all the
people who have worked so hard on this pro�ect so far.
OF APPOINTMENTS TO CATV ADVISORY COMMITTEEc
Councilman Breider said he would like to recommend Mr. Dean Caldwell, 5874
Hackmann Avenue N.E., for a two year term. Councilman Mittelstadt recommended
N1rs. Barbara Hughes, 548 Rice Greek Terrace £or a three year term, with the
comment that she has been of service to the wmmunity for many years. Mayor
Liebl said, as Chairman he would like to recommend Father Ed Chmielewski,
6120 5th Street N.E., for a two year term and Mr. John Haines, 275 Craigbrook
Way N.E., for a three year term. Councilman Utter reported that he has been
trying to contact Mr. Tom Myhra, 6360 Able Street, who would then be appointed
for a one year term, however, he has been unable to reach him. The Council
asked Councilman Utter to try to reach him by phone now and the discussion would
be held open until he returns to the Meeting.
Councilman Breider said when the Committee organizes themselves, that he would
like to have them open up a series of public hearings on any tentative changes to
the CATV ordinance. He would guess if they arrive at the conclusion there '
should be a referendum, and they have sugoested changes, that this information
should be before the Council by September 15, 1972. This Council would then look
upon their recommendations with much favor. Councilman Mittelstadt said he
wondered how many times they intend to meet, and would like that spelled out.
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' Dr. Nikolai Koropchak said he would like to compliment the Ca.ty Council on the
step they have taken, but it should have been done a year ago. I-Ie thought the
Council has chosen good people and they should be able to make some constructive
suggestions. There is another area involved, and �hat is the law suit; this is
something entirely different from cable television and involves the citizen's
right to petition and the plaintiffs feel they must pursue this to a �udgment.
Un£ortunately, this will cost the ta�c payers some money, and added that he was
surprised the City Attorney xequested a �ury trial. It would save the t�
payers a lot of money if that had not been requested. Mayor Liebl said he is
probably correct, but the petitioners tried to make a point and he said he is
trying to solve it by taking it out of the political bailiwick. The people
chosen tonight were selected based upon their character and personal integrity
and they will make the decisions which are best £or the community. I£ this is
solved, then why pursue a.t any further? If the problem is solved to the satis-
£actzon oP both parties, then carrying it £urther would be an exercise in
futility.
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The Tacting Crty Attorney said that if the committee comes up with a resolution
of this matter, then there would be no lawsuit. A court would not accept a
"£riendly lawsuit" and would consider the question moot. Dr. Koropchak said
that what would not be resolved is the criteria under which a petition may be
subma.tted. The people deserve the ra.ght to be heard because there were accusations
of perjury and forgery. This lawsuxt should be pursued to its finish so that
people in the £uture would be able to petition and be heard and the petition
would be accepted.
The Acting City Attorney said that the point is whether there should be a
re£ezendum and whether the ordinance is valid and in ef£ect. I£ the courts have
any inkling the Citp Council has resolved the matter, the 7udge would not hear
the case. In his opinion, he £elt the lawsuit should not be continued.
Mr. Ole B�erkesett said he wanted to correct a statement made that accusations
of per�ury and forgery have been made, that is not true. What he charged was
that there had been improper certificates attending the petitions made. The
other point made in regard to the rights o£ crtizens to petition, no one questions
that right. The Council acted in good faith in questioning the validity of the
petitions, and the issue is whether the signatures were proper and if they were
rightfully obtained.
Councilman Utter reported he had been able to contact Mr. Myhra anfl he would
be willing to serve.
MOTION by Councilman Breider to approve the appointments to the CATV Advisory
Committee as follows:
Chairman - Father Ed �hmielewski 2 year term
Dean Caldwell 2 year texm
Barbara Hughes 3 year term
Sohn Haines 3 year term
Tom Myhra 1 year term
The Motion was seconded by Councilman Utter.
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The City Manager asked if the Committee were to recommend on September 15th '
that there should be a re£erendum, would that be time enough to schedule the
matter on the ballot in November. The Finance Director said yes, it could
still be put on the ballot for the general election.
THE VOTE UPON THE MOTION, being a roll call vote, Liebl, Utter, Mittelstadt
and Breider voting aye, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously.
Mayor Liebl said he would like to clari£y the position of the Chair in regard
to the duties and responsibilities o£ the Committee �ust appointed so there will
be no misrepresentations, and sul�mitted the statement as follows:
"Members of the Council, Citizens of Fridley:
I would like to take a£ew moments to discuss the work o£ the co�ittee
we have �ust appointed.
Secta.on 28 of the Cable Television Ordinance which was adopted last year
establishes a cable television advisory committee to advise and assist the
Council on any matters relating to the cable television system. Secondly,
the committee is instructed to take on such speciPic assignments as the
Council might provide from time to time and report back with £ormal
recommendations.
Despite the fact this ordinance has not been implemented in the form of ,
an actual cable television system, I believe the important issues revolving
around the ordinance warrant the activation o£ the advisory committee at
this time. Therefore, the Council is now moving under the provision which
allows us to direct speci£ic assignments to the attention of the advisory
committe e .
Consequently, this advisory body is hereby instructed to conduct approp-
riate public hearings on the contents o£ the ordinance to determine what, if
any, amendments should be made in the public interest. These hearings
should be conducted in a timely fashion to allow the advisory comm�.ttee
to report any recommendations to the Council by September 15, 1972.
The Council had originally considered a 60 day period but decided to
extend that because of the summer vacation period. A September 15 dead-
line should give the comma.ttee adequate tune and, more .unportantly, the
public ample opportunity to participate in the hearings.
In addition, I would like to direct Mr. ➢avis to provide the committee
with adequate stafP assistance to assure an orderly process of hearings
and evaluation. We will also ask Father Chmielewski and the committee
to keep the Council inPormed as to the dates of hearings and procedures
to be £ollowed, along with minutes o£ the hearings.
Thank you."
Councilman Mittelstadt said that he would interpret "staPf assistance" to mean a ,
recording secretary at theix meetings. Mayor Liebl said yes, and whatever else
their needs may be.
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VISITOR:
Mr. Don Schultz, 15 Rice Creek Way: White sand on banks of Locke Lake:
Mr. Schultz has hauled white sand onto the banks of Locke Lake £or his two lots
plus the City park pxopesty. In getting the sand to the shoreline, he drove
over the park land and the curb without permission £rom the City, either to
drive over the property or alter the park shoreline. There has been a dis-
agreement at the Staff level between Mr. Schultz and the StaP£ in regard to how
the sand should be handled. Mayor Liebl asked the City Manager, the City
Engineer, Mr. Schultz and as many Councilmen as could to meet Tuesday at 5:00
P.M. to go and look at the site. He said this would be a chance to show the
people on Locke Lake the Crty is willing to do something in regard to ewlogy
and keeping the beach nice. He said he had looked at the curb that was supposed
to be damaged by Mr. Schultz, but that was damaged 4- 5 months ago by motor-
cycles.
The City Manager said Mr. Schultz had talked to him about his plan after he had
done it, and he had suggested appearing before the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Mr. Schultz said that he considered his actions a continuation o£ his pro�ect. The
white sand was not available last year, Dut it is now £or a short while He said
he never thought it would be necessary to get permission, and acted quickly while
the sand was available He said as to the pictures of the piles of sand, there
is only about 'q truckload of sand le£t to be shovelled and it looks qurte
different now. He then mentioned his deed for his property which is given by
footage rather than reading to the waterline. Now there is a strip of land
between his property line and the water's edge which is owned by the original
developer, Mr. Ostman, and he would like to get title to that strip. The Council
informed him that would have to be between him and Mr. Ostman. Mr. Schultz £elt
that the City should do something about this privately owned lake bottom; they
should buy it and have a City oaned lake.
RECESS.
Mayor Liebl declared a recess at 10:15 P.M. The Meeting was reconvened at 10:30 P.M.
C�NSI➢ERATi�N OF CHANGE ORDER NO- 1 FOR WATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT #108:
The City Engineer reported there is some work needed that was anticipated, however,
the Change Order wst will still place the pro�ect cost within the engineering
estimate.
MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to approve Change Order #1 to Water Pro�ect �'r108
in the amount of $4,083.00. Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all
ayes, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously.
ESTIMATES:
Progressive Contractors, Ine.
Osseo, Minnesota
PARTIAL Estimate #2 for work completed through this
date on:
Street Improvement Pro�ect St. 1972-1
Street Improvement Pro�ect St. 1972-2
$67,307.66
$15,559.95
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Weaver, Talle & Herrick
316 East Main Street
Anoka, Minnesota
For 5ervices Rendered - May Billing
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$ 2,354.00
MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to approve payment of the estimates as submitted.
Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all ayes, Mayor Liebl
declared the motion carried unanunously.
REPORT ON EMPLOYMENT OF PARK AND SCHOOL RANGER:
MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to receive the report submitted by the City
Manager dated June 12, 1972. 5econded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote,
all ayes, Mayor La.ebl declared the motion carried unanunously.
Mayor Liebl asked the City Manager to explain the proposal for the benefit of the
audience. The City Manager said he has recently met with Mr. Ray Mondloh o£ the
School Board and also several school administrators concerning common problems
the City and Schools have. One of the ideas that came out o.f the meeting was the
common need of the City and the School District £or a park and school ranger. This
position would be utilized to patrol the Fridley Junior and Senior High School
complex 10 hours per week and the remainder of the park system 26 hours per week,
The duties of the ranger would be as £ollows:
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Observation and detection of vandalism, and to work with the Fridley Police
Department in apprehension of suspected vandals.
Detection of misuse o£ £acilities and property and correction of same.
Work closely with the Eridley Police in enforcing the prohibition o£
motorized equipment of all kinds on the athletic and park areas.
Make certain only authorized personnel are using the facilities.
Curtail certain dangerous and unauthorized activities on both school and
park property.
Control parking on all sites.
The City Manager continued that the park and school ranger would work a total of
36 hours a week, for the £ourteen week trial period, which would begin June 19th.
The ranger would be provided with an automobile, uniform and would be equipped
with a two way radio on the police frequency, however, he would not be armed.
His hours would be £rom 5:00 P.M, to 11 00 P.M. Over the past two year period
the Parks and Recreation Depar�tment has experienced over $6500 lost through
vandalism. The salary proposed is $126 per week £or the 14 weeks with a total
cost including um£orm and car to the City of $1644 and to the School District
$470, for a total cost for the experimental program o.f $2,114. He suggested the
City's share of $1644 could be paid for out of the recent transfer of the
unused portion of the Ward Two Councilman's salary which amounted to $2310.
The City Manager continued that this is really not a new program, Recently the
Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board voted to employ 24 additional seasonal
park patrol agents.
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� MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to approve the employment o£ one park and
school ranger at a total cost not to exceed $1644 for the period June 19, 1972
through September 24, 1972, on a trial basis, and request that the Crty Council
be furnished with an evaluation of this program in OctoUer, 1972. Seconded by
Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all ayes, Mayor Liebl declared the motion
carried unanimously.
REPORT ON LIQUOR STORE SITES:
Mayor Liebl concurred in the City Manager's opin�on as outlined in his memo dated
.7une 9, 1972 which was that the cost to the City over the long run is conszderably
less by purchasing land and building a building rather than leasing a liquor store
srte. The Acting City Attorney said that i£ the Council concurs in the City
Manager's opinion, authoriziation would be needed to start negotiations for the
purchase oP the land.
Mayor Liebl instructed the Finance Director to see that some work is started on
a proposed layout for the store. He said he wanted effective merchandising to
entice the customers into the store. The Finance Director said that there has
already been some work done on a proposed layout. Mayor Liebl said he would like
this information brought back at the same time the report on negotiations is
submitted by the City Attoxney and the City Manaqer.
' MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to a.nstruct the City Manager and Crty Attorney
to begin negotiations with Mr. Jim Gibson for the purchase of property located
at 6289 Highway #65. Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all ayes,
Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously.
COMMUNICATIONS:
AMFRICAN HISTORIC AND CULTURAL SOCIETY, INC.: HONOR ANIERICA IIAY:
The City Manager pointed out there is a proclamation that could be considered
on Page #14B and there are also plates for postage meters that the City could
purchase The Council agxeed the postage meter plates would be a good idea.
MOTION by Councilman Mittelstadt to instruct that the proclamation found on Page
#14B be published over the seal of the Mayor which proclauns Tuesday, July 4,
1972 as "HOnor America Day". 5econded by Councilman Sreider. Upon a voice
vote, all ayes, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously.
CITY RED BARNS. INC.: RE9UEST TO COLLECT PUNDS FOR U.S. DLYMPIC
TEAM:
MOTION by CounCilman Mittelstadt to receive the information £rom Tw.in City Red
Barns, Ine., and concur with their request to solicit £unds £or the U.S.
Olympic Team. Seconded by Councilman Breider Upon a voice vote, all ayes,
Mayor Liebl declared the motion caxried unanimously.
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There being no £urther business, Mayor Liebl declared the Special Public Hea in
Meeting o£ June 12, 1972 adjourned at 10:47 P.M.
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