03/11/1974 - 5479PATRICIA ELLIS
COUNCIL SECRETARY
PUBLI� HEARING MEETING
MARCH 11, 1974
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FI�IiIL�Y CITY COU(VCIL REGULAR MEETING, MARCN 11, 1974
iVEW BUSIi'dESS,
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� CONSIDERATI�N OF POSSIBILITY OF INSTALLATION OF .
I' SIDEWALKS ON .�ACKSON STREET BETI�IEEN %3RD AVENUE
AND OSBORNE l�OAD, AND METHOD OF FUNDING TNE
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Administration directed to prepare a long range sidewalk plan for
entire City, listinq �ri�rit�es. Report received.
C,ONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CHANGIPJG
OF BUDGET �PPROPRI/�TION WITHIN THE GENERAL FlJND
�SILVER �UBILEE) � � � � � � � � . � . � � � . � . . � � . 4
Resolution #�35- d Present Silver Jubilee appointed as
In er�m �-Centennial Commitee and City Manager io take appropriate action.
KECEIVING REPORT ON POOR REVENlJES iLOSS) SITUA7ION
AT UFF—SALE STORE #1 ON EAST RIVER ROAD AND 3�TN
AVENUE . , � , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , 5 — 5 F
Administration directed to prepare a plan for presentation to the City
Council to turn the net profit on 1974 sales to 12�. If this means
phasing out any of the liquor stores, this plan will be followed. The
report will be reviewed by the Council the first of Aprii.
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FRI�LEY CITY COUi�CIL �- ��I�RCN 11, 1974 — 7:30 P, M,
7:30 p.m.
PLE�GE OF ALLEG I tii�CE : Gi ven
ROLL CALL: Ail present
Ai��►PTIOiv OF AGEi�:UA: Adopted as presented.
PU�L 1 C HEAR I i�GS :
PUBLIC HFARING ON FINAL PLAT P,S� #%4-01, RICE
l.KttK ESTATES, BY GOODCO INC�, AND PINE TREE
�UILDER5; GENERALLY �OCATED BETWEEN RICE CREEK
I�OAD AND EIST AVENUE AND �V�EST OF BENJAMIN STREET
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RECEIVING PETITION #�-19��-� IN �PPOSITION TO PLAT� ..�� 1— 1 K
Pubiic�Nearing opened, 7:32 p.m., c�osed at 8:45 p.m. No objections
to plat as proposed (exhibit A) P�Ir. Theodore 7heilmann, City Staff and
Goodco representatives to meet with Councilman St rwalt and Councilman
Utter for solution to question of putting Wood�°�E through and when
this should be done. Mr. Theilmann to get in contact with Goodco on
thi s mee-�i ng .
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CONSIDERATION OF COMMUNICATION FROM THE NOUSING
COMMITTEE OF THE VFW, IO4O OSBORNE ROAD N. E�
�TABLED FEBRUARY 25, 1974) � . . � . � � . � � . . . � . . 2 ' 2 B
Communication from Housing Committee received and concurred with.
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THE MINUTES OF 7HE PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF THE FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL OF MARCH 11, 1974
The Public Hearing Meeting of the Fridley City Council of March 1�, 1974, was called
to order at 7:30 P.M. by f�layor Liebl. .
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Mayor Liebl led the Council and the audience in saying the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
! ROLL CALL:
` MEMBERS PRESENT: Councilman Breider, Councilman Starwait, Mayor Liebl,
Councilman Utter, and Councilman Nee.
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MEf•1BERS ABSENT: None.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Councilman Starwalt to adopt the agenda as presented. Seconded by Councilman
Utter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried
unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
PUBLIC HEARING ON FINAL PLAT P. S. i74-01, RICE CREEK ESTATES, BY GOODCO, INC., AND
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RECEIVING PETITION #3-1974, IN OPPOSITION TO PLAT: '
MOTION by Councilman Starwalt to waive the reading of the Public Hearing Notice and
open the P.ublic Hearing. Seconded by Counciiman Nee. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, f•1ayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously and the Public Hearing opened
at 7:32 P.M.
The City Manager projscted a map of the proposed plat on the screen.
Mayor Liebl asked the City Manager to present some facts on the proposed plat. The
City Manager said the Planning Commisison had recommended approvai of the plat with
some stipulations. He explained there had been some problems with the extension of
61st Street. He continued saying the plat being reviewed needed no additiona7 right-
of-way from the property owners on 61st, the cul-de-sac was proposed entirely for the
developer's property. He said the requirements of the plaCting ordinance had been met.
He also explained the amount of park land to be obtained through the piat to be in
excess of the normal percentage of area. He said normally for this much area, there
would be 4 to 4?� lots for park and this plat would provide 8 to 82 and the developer
is loosing about four bui]dable ]ots.
The City Manager said the recommendation of the Park and Recreation Commission was that
a good size park be developed in the area to serve all the properties bounded by
Rice Creek Road, Stinson Boulevard, Old Central Avenue, and 61st Avenue. He said the
perimiter roads are heavy with traffic and this proposed park would be in the
center of the deveioped area. He said he believed this to be a gopd place for a park
to serve the entire area.
Councilman Utter asked if the cul-de-sac on the extension of 61st Avenue was now on
" the applicant's property and the City Manager said this is true. He said the developer
� would have to dedicate the roadway right-of-way for the cul-de-sac. The City Manager
said this would leave the two lots unbuildable because of the steepness of the
terrain and the property being taken for the cul-de-sac.
Mr. Ed Dropps, Pine Tree R�ilders, addressed the Council and introduced Mr. Wally
Goodroad, and said they had formed Goodco Builders.
Councilman Starwalt asked if there had been any agreement worked out between the
developer and the property owners of the area. (•ir. Dropps said he had not talked to
the property owners. ��e said he was v+illing to sell twenty feet of his property to the
Thielmanns to make their property buildable. H� added, the Thielmanns had iodicated •
they did not want to continue the road through their property at this time. Mr. Dr.opps�
said he had proposed a plan which would not continue the roadway through the Thielman�
property.
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Councilman Utter said the plat that had been proposed at the Planning Commission
Meeting by Goodco, was not accepted by the Planning Comrnission. He said the Planning
Commission had approved the plat being proposed at the present meeting.
Mr. Dropps said he was sorry they were not in attendance at the meeting of the Planning
Comnission, but they were under the impression they had attended all the meetings
that they were to attend. He said they were not aware of the meeting the previous
Wednesday, and had thought the Parks and Recreation Meeting of Monday night was the ;
last meeting. 3
CouncilMan Starwalt asked if there would be any objections by the developer at
running Woodside through rather than use the cul-de-sac. (1r. Dropps said as the road
is run on the proposed plat, it is of no use to the development, it is just additional
cost. Nt said he believed the access required by the Thielmanns could be obtained from
the east side of their property. He said there is no value in the 135 foot piece of
road.
Councilman Starwalt said he favored the plan which would aliow Woodside Court to be
extended through the Theilmann property and he believed this would be a better plan
to continue the development of the entire area.
Mr. Dropps explained he had originally come to the City with a plan for 59 lots and now
the proposal was to 40 lots. He said all of the 59 ]ots were of buildable sixe and
four of them were on Mr. Theilmann's property. He said he had tried not to offend
Mr. Theilmann, but now it was time to take a stand. .
Mr. Dropps corrmented he had sent a map of the proposal to the Engineering Department
and would apply for a variance of from 35 feet to 25 feet for the front yards for the
lots on 61st Avenue which would make the lots buildable.
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The City Manager said there were only two problems to be solved on the proposed p1at, !
one being the section of roadway through the Theilmann property and the other ;
recommendation for the park in the southerly section qf the plat. He repeated the ;.
Park and Recreation Commission had recommended a large park be created in this area. `
He explained the proposal to cut Woodside Court through would be a better proposal }
utilityivise than dead ending the street and utilities at each end of the access. The
City Manager said he appreciated the point of view of Mr. 'iheilmann, he wants to live
in the area and had been in the location for a long period of time. He said Mr. Theilmann
would like the area to remain as it is. The City Manager said he thought the developer
and Mr. Theilmann should work something out which would be a better p1an. He indicated ;
the proposai would create a better drainage p7an and a better uiility plan. �
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Councilman Starwalt asked the parties involved if it would be possible for them to i
get together to,reach some agreement. �
Mr. Dropps replied he did not believe any agreement could be reached, they had tried.
He explained Mr. Theilmann wished to keep the area as it is until the time of his
retirement. ��r. Jropps said Mr. Theilmann had indicated this is the only plan he
would accept.
Mr. Theilmann said he had purchased two acres of property and he asked why he should
sacrifice a]ot now after paying taxes on the property for many years with the p7an
of creating eight buildable lots in the area. Fle said he did not bel9eve he would be
forced to do this for the developers of the abutting property.
Councilman Utter said the creation of cui-de-sacs is an additional expense for the City.
Ne said there is a lot which would not be buildable on the Theilmann property if the 1
cul-cie-sac is installed for access. He said if this plan is followed, it would. '�
create two additional cul-de-sacs for the City to maintain,
The City Manager said he would encourage the two parties to try to work something out
which would be good for the community and good for each other.• He said they both
have needs of the other and would both have to give a little. He stated, they need
each other in order to develop the property.
Councilman Starwatt asked what the tax status would be and what provisions would be
in effect if this property is divided by the roadway at the present time.
The Finance Director, t1r. Marvin C. Brunsell, said he did not know of any.way there could
be a delay in paying the taxes and special assessments.- Ne commented there is a two .
to three year process before the special assessments would be on the tax rolls.
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Councilman Starwalt asked if the taxes would be affected before this time. The Finance
Director said there would be no appreciable difference in the iax, the big difference would
be in the special assessments. The finance Director said the difference in the taxes would
come about by putting the road in, not by p7atting and installing a line in a plan.
The City Manager said Mr. fheilmann's land is higher than the surrounding land, it will
be more expensive to complete the improvements on the Theilmann property alone in the
future, He said with the present plan, the assessments would be spread over the entire
development and not assessed to the abutting property owners section by section. He said
if the improvements are done sinqly the owner of the four higher 7ots would have to
expend the entire amount of the higher priced instaliation. He said it would be difficult
to assess the other people in the future when the assessment would have no benefit to
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Counci7man Utter said the improvements with the raise in costs would be at additional
cost in the future, Councilman Utter as.ked Mr. Theilmann if he would be able to come
into the City Ha11 and speak to the City Manager on the methods of funding the current
proposal and the.reasons why it wouid be to Mr. Theilmann's advantage to install the �
improvements at this time. He thought if Mr. Theilmann would add the improvements �
later, the cost would be out of this world.
The City Manager said the 7heilmann property wouTd be difficult pf'operty to work on.
Ne explained how there is 25 feet of dirt which wouid have to be removed before the
installation of the improvements. He said at the present time, if �t were done all
�t once , the cost would be minimal He again stressed, the parties should get
together and work something out for the good of both of them.
Mayor Liebl agreed stating he also thought they should get together before the Council
would take any action on the matter pending. P•1ayor Liebl asked Mr. Theilmann if he
opposed the development of the residential plat as proposed. Mr. Theilman said he was
not opposed to the plat.
Mayor Liebl said the proposal of the street pattern would be acceptable to the Council
over the long range p7an of the area. tdayor Lieb7 said Mr. Theilmann cannot be forced
to develop his property. i�9r: Dropps said he was aware of this. Mayor Liebl pointed
out that Mr. Theilmann had been a long time resident of the City af Fridley and had
paid many tax dollars.
The City Manager said there were three alternatives; one to approve the plan and develop
only the property within it; two, to 7et the property owners work something out;
and three, acquire the needed right-of-way through eminent domain.
Counci7man Utter asked Mr. Theilmann and the representatives from Goodco if they couid
have another meeting which he and Councilman Starwa7t would attend. Mr. Theilmann said
he is home every evening and this would be agreeabie with him.
Councilman Starwalt said it seemed it would be advantageous for Mr. I'heilmann to
a11ow the road to go through at this time rather than dead end it.
Mr.. Theilmann said he, is not ready for.this. �ouncilman Starwalt again stressed the
amount of increase that would be involved in the development of the area in the futt+re.
Mr. Thsilmann said he would like to go over this point with someone at the City.
Councilman Starwalt said the plat could be adopted as it is being presented with the
dead end, but Mr. iheilmann would have to agree to pay the incurred costs for the
improvements at the future time of development.
Councitman Nee asked the amount of cutting that would have to be done for this improvement
and asked if the elevations could be pointed out.
t4r. Uropps said Mr. Theilmann wants to sell the fill in the area and after this is
done, he would seil the property for development. Mr. Theilmann said this is true.
7he City Manager said the two parties need each.other for the pla�n for the area to
be workable.
Mayor Liebl asked if there were any others present who would like to make a statement
to the Council. Mr. Cnarles Rice, 154i Ferndale Avenue, asked if there was any right-
of-way on the Rice property, or was all of this being obtained from the developers
of the property. (%�ayor Liebl asked hir. Rice if he had any objections to the plat as
it was being proposed which did not require any right-of-way from the Rice property.
Mr. Rice said he would have no objection if the plat did not touch his property. `
Mrs. Gloria Arel, 152i Ferndale addressed the Council and said if the plat does not
touch either the Rice Property or her own, she would have no objections to the plat.
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The City Manager said the p7at did not touch either of these properties.
�ouncilman Breider stated Mr. Theilmann wanted to sell the dirt before the development
of the property. He thought there would be an additional cost for the development
of the area some point in the future if there is a delay. He asked Mr: Theilmann if
he was aware of the expense and limitations on dirt hauling. Mr. Theilmann said this
had been done all around him and was well aware of what dirt hauling does.
Councilman Starwalt asked why there would be a$20,000 to $25,000 cost to the City
to make a park of this size. The City Manager said the recommendation of the Parks
and Recreation Commission was to create a large park for the families of the neighborhood.
He said when the areas surrounding the present plat are developed, the City would
require some amounts of money for development of park. He said this would provide
a park large enough to service the entire area in the future, The City Manager pointed
out that applicant is dedicating more than the required amount to the City's parks and
this property for the amount mentioned would be in addition to the large dedicated
area. •
�4r. Larry lembke, 1505 Ferndale, addressed the Counci] and said he paid $4,000 for the
extra amount of property he nwned. He said if the assessments were put in and he
sold the property he could only increase his investment by about $2,000 and this would
not be a large enough profit, he would rather keep the property.
Councilman Starwalt asked Mr. I�tike 0'Bannon if he had any objections to the plat.
Mr. 0'Bannon said he had no objections.
Mr. Dropps said he would like to set up a meeting with Mr. Theilmann and the City
representatives. Councilman Starwalt said he felt Mr. Theilmann should meet with the
City staff first.
Mr. Theilmann said he would meet with the City staff,he would make arrangements and
tell them when he could make such a meeting.
MOTION by Councilman Starwalt to close the Pubiic Hearing. Seconded by Councilman
Utter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl dec7ared the motion carried
unanimously, and the Public Hearing closed at 8:45 P. M. 4'
Mayor Liebl said the petition in opposition to the plat should be received. Mayor
liebi noted, this is not the plat being discussed at the present time, this was a
previously discussed plan for the plat.
MOTION by Councilman Starwalt to receive Petition #3=1974 in opposition to the Rice
Creek Estates, Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
P�1ayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously. "
CONSIDERATIbN 6F COMMUNICATION FROM THE HOUSING COMMITTEE OF 7HE FRIDLEY V. F. W.,
1040 OSSQRNE ROAD.N, E., TABLED FEBRUARY 25, 1974 :
MOTION by Councilman Breider to receive the communication from the Housing Committee
of the Fridley V. F. W., 1040 Osborne Road N. E., signed by Mr. Anton Olson, Commander.
Seconded by Councilman Nee. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl declared
the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Andrew Kohlan, Attorney, addressed the Councii representing the Fridley V. F. W.
Mr. Kohian said he 's�ad visited the facility and talked to the Cort�nander and believed
as the letter from the V. F. W. states, the problems arise because of the corronon
wash room facilities which are used by members of the V. F. W, and also by renters
of the facility. Ne continued, there is interaction because of this and when the
facilities are rented, this is the major cause of the problems. He said there is
a possibility, in the future, for the V. F. W. to acquire some of the adjoining space
in the building complex and this would lessen the chance of this type of interaction
through separation. He said the V. F. W. would be providing additional security
to alleviate the current incidents. Mr, Kohlari said the V. F. W. Housing Co+rnnittee
is sincere in its attemp to alleviate the problems and they realize this will take
attention to complete the process.
Councilman Breider asked who is ]easing the other portion of the building. Mr. Kohlan
said this lease is held by a grocery store. He explained the owner of the grocery
facility has a year left on the lease with an option of an extension of another year.
Ne said there is also a barber shop in the compleX. He explained the circumstances
of the V. F. W. obtaiuing the building with the incompleted leases. and said there
would be no way of expanding until the other businesses are no longer leasing the
building.
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Councilman Breider asked Mr. Kohlan if it was the V. F. W.'s intent to take over the
entire building. �•ir. Kohlan said not entirely, but something could be arranged, this
would be to eliminate the interaction in the wash rooms.
Councilman Starwalt said he had visited the faciiity and he believed they were trying
to run a proper operation.
Mayor Liebl asked if there would be any further action on the matter at the present
time. �ouncilman Breider said he thought the Housing Committee was making a concentrated
effort in alleviating the problems, and this is what he was inierested in.
Mayor Liebl asked if the points listed in the cor�nunication (1 through 4) would be
agreeable to the Council as means of satisfying corrective measures for the current
problems.
MOTION by Councilman Breider to concur in the statements in the communication as listed
orte through four. Seconded by Councilman Starwalt. Upon a voice vote, alT voting aye,
P�ayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBILITY OF INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS ON JACKSON STREET BETWEEN
73RD AVENUE AND OSBORNE ROAD, AND METHOD OF FUNDING THE IMPROVEMENT:
Councilman 8reider said he had asked that this item be placed on the agenda to obtain an
idea on the Counci7's thinking on the matter. He recalled the 1971 policy of the City in
establishing sidewalks on residential property and said the money would come from State
Aid or the general fundo He said he had asked the City Manager to pra�a;re a cost break-
down on the installation of sidewa]ks on Jackson Street from 73rd to Qsbbrne-Road or
the Woodcrest School area. He said the grand total for this instailation would be
approximately $33,145 and he would like to discuss the possible methods of completion of
this installtion.
The City Manager po�nted out �he City had a five year sidewalk program. He explained
� Mississippi Street from�Central to Highway #65 had been completed, He said the
State Aid roads carry heavy traffic. He said Jackson had been a State Aid roadway,
but this had been deleted from the State Aid roads, and now the property owners
may have to pay the assessments for such an installtion. He explained the property
owners did not want this road to be a State Aid roadway because of the additionai
traffic this wou7d possib)y create, but there is a traffic problem and there is a
possibiiity with the safety factor, State Aid funds may take care of this assessment.
He said the genera7 funds could also be used if it is for the good of the entire
neighborhood. He said the Counci] would have to make a determinati�n on the method
of funding and whether or not the property owners shoulck be assessed. He said, originally,
this was a State Aid Road, but the peop7e did not want the trucks and heavy traffic, so
the State Aid road was changed to 8aker Street which abuts the commercial property. He
said this roadway does collect traffic because it is the only connection between 73rd
and Osborne in this area. �
. The City Manager said the Council would have to make the determination on how the
amount that should be done in this area, if anything. He added, at 75th and J.ackson
the traffic really starts getting heavy and continues this way to the north. The City
Manager said there would be two questions; one,.if and how mueh of the roadway should
have sidewalks; and, secondly, how much of this should be funded. He said there are
three possible methods of installation and funding; one, assessing the abutting property
owners including the installation of the walks, rep7acement of the sod and drives;
two, asking the property owners to pick up the cost or installation of the.sod and drives
with some State Aid funds backing up the funding of the sidewalks; or three, to comptete
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the entire project with funds from the General fund or State Aid Revolving Fund.
Mayor Liebi said the sidewalk construction program would meet the criteria of safety of
the people and pedestrians in route to and from Woodcrest School in this area. He said
at the present time, the children are walking on the street.. He continued he believed -
this area would meet the criteria of 197]. He said according to the resolution, this
• • could be done if there are funds availab7e. He pointed out that there would have to
be a Public Hearing before this improvement is approved, i�layor Liebl said he would
like to have more information on the improvement before there would be a Public Hearing.
Councilman Breider said before there is any further discussion or consideration of the
matter, he would like to talk to the people of Lhe area. He said at this time, he
wanted the feeTing of the Council on the possibility of installation of the sidewalk.,
He said he would not want the abutting property owners to be assessed completely far
the project because it is the entire MeTody Manor area that is using Jackson Street for �
access to the School, t�e said he could,not tell the abutting•property owners that they
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had to pay for the sidewalk assessments. He explained, the main traffic of the
area is on Jackson Street.
The City Manager said he would be concerned at the policy followed in a matter such
this. He said he could see that this may be a different situation than most of the
areas in Fridley, but he would hope that if this is done, the Councii would 7ayout
exactly why it would be done so it does not open the door for other areas to request
such improvements. He said this would have to be explained as a special consideration.
He suggested doing more homework on the possible installation. He said perhaps, there
should be some study on the area to determine the needs. He continued, after this, if
the Council feels the area requires special consideration, the question must be answered
whether or not the City should take over the 100% funding of the project. Ne said
other areas have been assessed for the sidewalks.
Mayor Liebl explained that many of the people in the City do not want sidewa7ks, and
if this is a factor in this area, the City would have to do something ta provide
safe access to the School. He recailed the walkways to Stevenson School had been
constructed with funds from the general fund. He said he thought some work should•
be done in this area to determine the criteria.
I'he City Manager pointed out another fact for consideration saying in some areas the
property owners were assessed with the understanding that the City wou7d take care
of the maintenance of the sidewalks. Ne said this had been done on Osborne Road and
the people were assessed 100%.
i�iayor tiebl said he would like to ask the School District for a count on the number
� of children that are walking from 75th to the north to school. He said this would
provide justification for the need. '
Councilman Breider said again that at the present time he would only want the fee]ing
of the Council on the possibility of consideration of this construction. He said
he would like to talk to the people of the area to determine if they wou7d favor this
plan.
Councilman Nee said he wo.u}d like to see a survey of the entire City done if this
idea is looked into. He said the improvements should be put in the order of their
priority. He continued saying he thought this improvement would be a go�d thing,
basically. He recalled the City had a plan for the installation of sidewalks and this
plan is completed. He said hopefully, there should be another plan, prepared with
this area included.
Councilman Starwalt said he knew of areas in Ward iI with as much justification for the
installation of sidewalks. Councilman Breider said if this is true, ;�e would support
this installation in Ward II also. Councilman Starwalt said this also would be
determined by the fact if the people had to pay for the sidewalks or not.
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Councilman Utter asked if the consideration of the plat proposed previously in the meeting,
Rice Creek Estates, was t�iere any consideration of the sidewalks on Benjamin Street.
He added, there would be a good many young people who would use this Street for access
to Gardena School.
The City Manager said he would look into this area in the overall plan along with any
other areas of concern or where there had been requests. , '
MOTION by Councilman Breider to receive the report on the costs for the installation
of sidewalks on Jackson Street and also authorize the Administration to work up an
overall plan which would include priorities at the present time and a long range plan.
Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl declared �
the motion carried unanimously. '}
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RESOLUTION #35-1974 - AUTHORIZING THE CHANGING OF BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS WITHIN THE t
GENERAL FUND SILVER JUBILEE : .
MOTION by Councilman Utter to adopt Resolution #35-1974, authorizing the changing of
Budget Appropriations in the General Fund (Silver �ubilee). Secanded by Councilman
Starwalt. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried
unanimously.
Mayor Liebl read the Resolution aloud to the Council and audience.
The City Attorney asked if the Council would take action on the report for appointing .
a Bi-Centennial Committee. Ne suggested appointing the current Silver Jubilee Corr�nittee
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as the Bi-Centennial Interim Cor�nittee. He said there had been a meeting of the Silver
Jubilee Committee that evening and they requested the Council take formal action
appointin9 a Committee in this manner in order to complete the application.
P40TION by Councilman Starwalt to appoint the Silver Jubilee Committee as the Bi-Centennial
Interim Committee and that the City Manager be authorized to take the appropriate action.
Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, ��layor Liebl declared
the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVING REPORT ON POOR REVENUES LOSS SITUATION AT OFF-SALE STORE #2 EAST RIVER ROAD
AND 37TH �VENUE:
Councilman Breider asked what the current rent on the facility at East River. Road is.
Mr. Bob McQuire, Liquor Store Manager, addressed the Council and replied this was $6,300
per year.
Mayor LiebT said the members of the Council had seen the report from the City Manager
and his proposed alternatives. He said he would like to make a c�mment expiaining
his thoughts on the problem. i�layor Liebl read the following statement:
"TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION FROM THE DESK OF MAYOR FRANK G. LIEBL, March,9, 1974
Since price controls were removed from bottle sales of liquor in July of 1969, operating
income from our off-sale stores has gone steadily downward -
1969 - - $150,000
1970 - - $135,0�0 - - Down $15,000
1971 - - $102,000 - - Down $33,000
7972 - - $ 76,000 - - Down $25,U00
1973 - - $ 33,000 - - Down $43,000
fJet operating loss at store #1 was almost $7,000 in 1972, the last full year this store
was open.
Store #2 had a net operating loss of almost $8,000 for the fourth quarter of 1973. Since
the fourth quarter normally accounts for about one third of the annual operating profit,
there doesn't appear to be much hope for recovery at that 7ocation.
Whatev�r the reasons, this record makes it obvious that some decisions must be made
irrrnediately. Some action must be taken soon to correct the problem, or we must expect
to be forced out of the busine�s in the not too distant future.
I suggest that the following steps be taken - ,
1. Since the Camden bridge was closed, sales at the #2 store have dwindled
to practically nothing. To the best of our knowiedge the bridge will not
be open for two years. The best solutian appears to be to c]ose this store
and negotiate the best possible deal for termination of our 7ease at that
location. "�
2. I suggest that we consider eliminating the position of Liquor Manager and go
to a Store Manager arrangement. We have a purchasing agent who could do the
buying. The Store Manager would put in his 40 hours pew week in the store to
which he is assigned. Bank deposits and necessary reports could pasily be
arranged for. Assuming a Store Manager salary approximately $2,000 per year
above that of the cTerks and with two full time clerks to each store, the
�annua] payroll should be substantially reduced, Each Manager would be free
to make all the necessary decisions relating to schedule of working hours
for clerks, sale pricing dead stock, etc. - within guide lines 7ain down by
the City Administration. Ne would be responsible for successful operation
of the store.
Above action should result in savings to the taxpayer of $30,000 to $40,000 per year
and help raise the net profit to an acceptable figure. If not, we should seriousTy
consider getting out of the business, �
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Mayor Liebl said he had received and read the liquor store reports since 1966 and he
was not trying to criticize anyone. He said the Tiquor saies have dropped in
all corronunities. �iayor Liebl said he thought the CIty should be very c�nscientious
in laying out a plan. He stated the City had spent a considerable amount of money
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in the construction of the new liquor store on Central and this location was having
good sales along with the Holly Store, He felt the need to take the proper action
and cut down on the overhead of the operation. He pointed out another factor for the
loss is the action by the Legislature, saying they had put the City into this situation.
He also pointed out that when he viewed the activity at Leon's, the facility was full
of customers and they seemed to have beautiful sales there. Mayor Liebl said the
Liquor Store Manager and the Assistant Liquor Manager had been with the City for from
16 to 20 years, and they would be capable of managing the two remain'ing profitable
stores. He mentioned some salary arrangement could be made.
Councilman Breider said he appreciated the possibilities being pointed out. He
asked if there would be a possibility of getting out of the lease at the present facility
on East River Road. ��e said he did not feel that taking a loss for the remainder of the
lease period would make any sense. Councilman Breider questioned the Finance Director
on the possibility of the Pubchasing Agent buying the liquor for the two remaining
stores if there was no manager to take care of this. He said originally the CIty
had four stores, it is down to three rww and proposed for twa. Cauncilman Breider
asked.what the comparison in the fixed costs would be. The Finance Director asked
if this would be for 197� and Councilman Breider said yes. Councilman Breider questioned
how the labor costs for four stores could be compared to the labor costs for the two
stores. Ne also questioned the fact that the labor costs seem to be getting higher
for the amount of sales.
Councilman Breider said he would not be too excited about the prospect of putting a
trial store location on the East Rover Road and Osborne Road. He stated the grocery
store at this.location had gone broke, the parking would not be adequate, and he would
not want to invest money in this corner.
Councilman Breider asked the Finance Director if he could prepare a report and tell
the Council how they could obtain a 12� net profit for the liquor sa7es for 1974. He
asked if a plan could be charted out.
The City Manager commented, the deficiencies in the system should be eliminated and the
East River Road Store is not making any money. He stressed, something should be done
to eliminate the loss. lie poinied out that the sales at Central and a]so Holly are
good and he would not want the East River Road facility to eat al7 the profits away.
Ne explained by just closing the door, the loss would be cut mare than half. He
said there would have to be a plan and he asked the Council if the plan to close the
doors of this store would be feasible at the present time.
MOTION by Councilman Breider to instruct the Administration to prepare a plan to show
the City Council on how the City can turn the present situation into a net profit of
12% for the 1974 sales and that this be brought back to the Council by the first of
April and if this inctudes phasing out non-profitable siores, this would be a part of
the pian. Seconded by Councilman Starwalt for discussion purposes.
Mayor Liebl sa,id he would accept this as a.second to the motion.
Councilman Starwalt said he had two questions, would this be a long or short range
plan and what would be done with the East River Road store at the present time. He
asked the possibility of an addition to the motion which would indicate that something
should be done with the East River Road Store at the present time.
Councilman Breider said it was his intent that if the plan would call for some present
action on closing the East River Road store, this action would be started immediately.
He said he would like the City Manager to get in contact with ihe lease holder on East
River Road and determine if something could be worked out.
Councilman Starwait said if this is the inient, he would wholeheartedly second the
motion.
MOiIOfJ by Counciiman Nee to amend the motion to prepare the report to add tNat the
Liquor Store #2 be closed immediately. Secbnded by Councilman Breider.
Councilman Breider said he thought this may be within the intent of tfie first motion.
The City Attorney said this was the intent of the first part of the motion.
Councilman Breider said he would WITNDRAW HIS SECOND, in this case.
Mayor Liebl declared the motion DEAD FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
The City Manager said this would enable him to start phasing out _the operation without
closing the door irr�nediately.
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If�i0TI0N by Councilman Breider to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Councilman Utter. �
! Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously
' and the.Public Hearing meeting of the Fridley City Council of March 71, 1974 adjourned '`
at 10:12 P,M.
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F�I�LEY CITY COUidCIL - REG�LAR MEETING -�ARCH 11, 1974 - 7:30 P, M.
PLE�GE OF ALLEG I a�JCE :
ROLL CAL�:
A�UPTIOi� OF AGEi�llA:
PU�LIC HEARIi�GS:
PUBLIC HEAR.ING ON FINAL PLAT P�S. #74-01, RIGE
1,rZEtiC ESTATES, BY GOODCO INC„ AND PINE TREE
BUILDERS; GENERALLY LOCATED BETWEEN RICE CREEK
i�OAD AND 61ST AVENUE AND WEST OF BENJAMIN STREET
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RECEIVING PETITION �3-1974 iN �PPOSITION TO pLAT. .��. 1- 1 K
OLll �US I ►JESS :
CONSIDERATION OF COMMUNICATION FROM THE NOUSING
COMMITTEE OF THE VFW, IO4O OSBORNE ROAD N� E.
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iVEW BUSIi'dESS:
CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBILITY OF INSTALLATION OF
SIDEWALKS ON .JACKSON STREET BETWEEN %3RD AVENUE
AND OSBORNE I�OAD, AND METHOD OF FUNDING THE
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CONSIDERA,TION OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CHANGING
OF BUDGET APPROPRIATION WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.
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OFFIC2AL NOTICE
�CTTY OF FRZDLEY
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE.THE
CITY COUNCIL
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
Notic� is hereby given that there wilZ be a Public Hearing
of th� City Council of th� City of Fridley in the City Hall at �
6431 University Avenue Northeast on Monday, March 11, 1974 in the
Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Fina1 Plat, Rice Creek
Estates, P,S. #74-01, by Goodco, Inc., and
Pine Tree Builders, being a replat of Lot
1Q, Auditor's Subdivision #22, except the
North 260 feet thereof; and Lot 9, Auditor's
Subdivision �22, except the North 260 feet o£
the West l32 feet, lying in the South Half
of Sectian 13, &-30, R-24, Cif.y of Fridley,
County of Anoka, Minnesota.
Generally located between Rice Creek Road and
61st Avenue I�T.E. and West of Benjamin Street.
Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above
matter will be heard at this meeting.
Publish: February 27, 1974
. March 6, 1974
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FRANK G. LIEBL
MAYOR
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Mr. Clark said the petitioner, Mr. Reinertson, had left a
messag� with the staff saying that he was too ill to attend the
meeting this evening and asked to have the consideration of the
rezoning request continued until March 6th.
I�fOTION by B1air, seconded by Drigans, that the PZanning
Commission continue rezoning request, ZDA #74-01, by Flen�iing Nelson
Constructioi� Com�rany, ta rezone Lots 13, 14, 15, 16, Block 2, Riverwood
Manor, from R-1 (single faraily dwelling areas) to R-3 (generaZ multiple
family dwelling areas) to a1Zow construction of a 24 unit apartment
complex gener.ally located South of 71st Flay N.E. and West of East •
River Road, until hlarch 6, 1974 at the petitioner's request. Upon
a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
2. PUBLIC HTZ�R7iQG : COZS �D�RI�TION OF A PR�LI.I�ZINARY� PLAT, P. S.` n 7 0,.
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Bring a replat of 1'art of Lots 9 and l0, Auditor's Subdivision
No. 22, located bet�aeen Rice Creek Road and Glst Avenue N.E.,
and P�est of 13enj amin Street N. E.
Mr. Roland Goodroad �•aas present to represent the petitiorier.
MOTION by Dr.igans, seconded-b� Har_ris, tha� the Planning Commission
� waive the readin_q of the Public Hearing notice on P.S. #74-D1, Rice
Creek Estates, b� Goodco, Inc., and Pine Tree builders. Upon a voice
vote, a11 votiiig aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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Mr. ClarY said the Plats & Subc�ivisions-5treets & Utilities
5ubcommittee had been given a petition by the neighbors stating that
they were in opposition to this preliminary plat, but most of the
opposition seemed to be against the extension of 61st Avenu� N.E.
rather than the entire plat.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said they would have to receive the petition
as presented.
MOTTON by Blair, seconded by Lindblad, that the Plan'ning Commission
receive petition #3-1974, in opposition to proposed preliminary pZat,
P.S. #7��-0.1., Rice Creek Estates, by Goodco, Inc., and Pine Tree Suilders,
be.zng a replat of-.Lot 10, Auditor's Subdivision #22, except the North
2G0 feet thereof; and Lot 9, Auditor.'s 5ubdivision #22, except the
North 2G0 feet of the West 132 feet, Iying"in the South Fta1f of Section
13, T-30, R-24, City of Fridle�, County of Anoka, Minnesota. Generall�
located between Rice Creek Road and 61st Avenue N..E. and West of Benjamin
Street N.E. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
Mrs. Gloria Arel, 1521 I'erndale Avenue N.E.,�said a different
plat was present�d at thc Plats & Subdivisions meeting this evening,
and their opposition was to the extension of 61st Avenue N.E.
Mr. Clark said the first plan presented by the petitioner is the
plan that you have it� your agenda. According to the comprehensive park
plan, there is a need for a park in this area, so the City staff drew
up a modification of this plan, where the City would try to get some
where bet�aeen two to three acres for a neighUorhood park on this pl_at.
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' �One of the big objections to this first pla� was that it did not
render the Th�i]_mann property to �heir satisfaction. The Plats
& Stzbdivisions-Street�s & Utilities Subcon�mzttee told the petitioner
' to work with the.City staff and the Theilmann's �o develop a plat
that was satisfactory to both.
' The petitioner brought in a new plan tonight that does not
include the Theilmann property.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said all the Theilmann property wasn't
,� included in the fi.rst plat. Mr. Clark said it did not include the
Theilmann homestead prop�rty on �ahich their home is located.
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Su)�divisions-Streets & Ut�liti�s Subcommittee before this meeting�
sti11 hacl some opposition also.
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The people living on I'erndale did not want 61st Avenue N.E.
extended any further Wcst than the eyisting right of way and the
petitioner is ta n�gotiate with the property owners for the right
of way or work with the Parks & R�creation Commission if this �
cul--de-sac has to be entirely on this plat. This would make lots
20 and 21 unbuildable and th� balance of these lots could possibly
be added on to the pr_oposed park l�nd. The petitioner was asked
to dedicate 1.8 acres for park land and.the City will have to negotiate
for the additional acre or sn that vaill be ne�ded for a neighborhood
park. •
The petitioner was asked for a 10 foot sidewalk easement along Lot
15 for a walkway to the par}c.
Any three to one slope on the plat would be sodded within one
year of development to prevent erosion.
Another stipulation was to have a11 the utilities undergrour.d.
Mr. C�ark continued, that there was a triangle needed for .
Briardale Road and the petii:ioner should negotiate with the Theilmann's
or ask the,City ta negoti.ace for it or else start condemnation proceed-
ings for it. The road, Woodside Cou.rt wauld be temporarily dead-
ended at the �9est and �ast sides where it meets th� Theilmann property.
Qther stipulations w�re i�hat the petitioner should plant one tree
on each lat and the drainage plan be present�d to the City Engineer
for approval. � �
Mr. C1ark said the street on thc West side o� the plat will Iine
, up with the road when Mr.O'�annon develops his property. Mr. Drigans
asked if Mr. O'Bannon lzas platted his property n�xt to this plat yet.
, Mr. Clark said only a portion of it has�been platted.
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Commission at a later date. Paul Brown has said he would like room.
for'a ball �iamond, a multi-purpose court to be used for basket ba.11
and volley ball, a skating rin): and possibly hqckey,and an apparatus
scction. If the petitioner runs the cul-de-sac on parts of Lots 21 and
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22, the Parks Commission might pick up the balance of these two lots
and leave them in their natural state. This area could be used for
a hill for sliding in the winter time.
Mr. Driagans �sked to hav� ihe cul-de-sac problem explained again.
Mr. Clark said th%�t on the original proposal, 61st Avenue was extended
the width of ihe plat. The terrain is such that this really wasn't
feasible. On the second plat, the pe�.ition�r is only extending 61st
Avenue as far. as the right of way has already been dedicated, ending
with a cul-de-sac at this poznt. This cul-de-sac would extend into,
lots on the SOU�I1 side ot this plat wh�re r.ight o� cvay has not been
granted. The Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee
asked �he petitioner to neqotiate for this right of way. Two of th�
three peopl� who would be involved in granting this right of way �ti=ere
at the earlier_ meeting and stated that th�y did not want to give this
right of way. The other party was not present, but according to tliose
present, he would be willing to give the righ� of way. Tf the ric�ht
of c•�ay cannot be obtained zn line with 61st Avenue, the petitioner
might have to pu-t the cul-de--sar, all on his propErty which would make
Lots 21 and 22 unbuildabl�, so it was sugc�ested that the portion of •
these lots that are remaining, be added to the park Iancl to be purch��.sed
by the City.
Mr. Lindblad said that Lo�ts 22 and 23 were quite long 1ots. i�Zr.
Clark said this was because there was quite a grade change on these
lots and they had to be that long so they would have about 60 feet to
build on.
Mr. Blair asked the status of the triangZe of TheiZmann property
that comes dawn into F3riardale Road. Mr. Clark said the Theilmann's
were asked to dedicai�� th� right of way for this road because this
pZat will help them develop their land when they are in a position to
plat. Mr. Clark said it would be better for the grading a��a utility
work if Theilmann's �aere to plat at the same time as the balance of
this property is being platted. .
Mr. Goodroad said they have made every effort ta work with every �
one concern�d with the propos�d p1at. This is the best plan they could
come up with i�hai� pleased the most people.
Mr. Dric�ans asked Mr. Clark if a11 these lots will be buildable.
Mr. Clai-k said �her� hasn't. been enoug�l time to check the �ots against
the �levat�ions on the �lat, but he would think about tive lots would
be problcm lots, where there will have to be a lot of grading. retain-
ing walls and some terrZCing. These woul.d be Lots.26, 27, 28, and 29
for sure, ���h�xe therc is a 30 foot fall from the back lot line to the
iront lot line. They plan to use tuck under garages on these lots
and wi11 use about 9 feet for the drive��ay for th� garage and about
6 feet on the grade of the house, leaving a diffcrence in grade of
2� feet. 7'his would b� about a three to one slopc. The two long lots
in the Soutllcvest corner of the plat have an area of about 70 feet they
could build on, and with a 35 foot setback and a 25 foot house, tYiey
could build on these lots.
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Chairman Fii�zpatrick asked about the lots facing South on
61st Avenue. Mr: Clark said these lots are highe�r in front than �
in back, and ��i11 be wa)_kouts. The petitioner has already stated
that he intends to ask for a 10 foot variance on the front setback
so these houses could be closer to the street. The houses on the
same street in the Briardale Plat a.re set back 30 feet, so it wouldn't
be too bad to have this variance as long as all the houses have the
same setback. ��
Mr. fIarris sa�_d the right of way for the cul-de-sac on 61st Avenue
is one of �the hold-u}?s ori the plat. Mr. Clark said the petitioner
will have to negoi:iate for the right of way far this �cu.Z-de-sac or
move the �cul-c�e- sac .
Chairrnan Fitzpatrick said it cl�ould be hard to maY.e a d�cision
on this plat until we know �ahat the Parl;s & Recreation Commission
decide on zhe park. Mr. B1air said there is already money budgeted
for a park in this ar_�a. .
Chair_man Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Harris if there was general
� agreement on this plat at the �arlier Pla-�s & Subdzvisions m�eting.
Mr. Harris said this plat really didn't please anyone completely,
but may b� the besfi, p.lat for this area. There were problems with
� the different grad�s.but one of t]ie stipulations made at this earl�er
meeting was tha-t�the grades be worked out with the City Engineering
Department. Mr. CJ.ark said it w�.� difficult for the City or the
petitioner to set grades until they have an approved preliminary plat
� to work with. Just looking at the topography map, it does look like
it can work.
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sac, the park plan, the trzangle and other problems on this plat
that couldn't be resolved at this time and h� wondered if the plat
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will have to be solved before :Eina1 approval, so we could ask to see
the final plat before it is submitted to the City Council..
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Mr. Clark said there is a sewer �nd wat�r project
and thep�titic�n�rwould like to hav� this plat added to
He is also anxious to get some model homes built.
in this area
that project.
Mr. Drigans said this �ti�as a sketch that was just drawn up today,
and therc� wer� problems w�.th this plat. We don.` t knoEa if these
will all be buildable sites, how many variances they will need, and
i£ the problems can be worked out. rir. Goodroad said this plat ha�
been on the drzwinr board for some L-im�,.and it was only because of
the requested changes that all the information raasn't ready at this
t�imE. Mr. Clark said they have prepared a tot�ography.m�p,but at least
three di�ferent plats have been drawn up in two �aeeks and it wasn't
feasible to have this topography overlayed on c�ach different proposal.
Mr�.. Harris said he felt it was necessary to approve this preliminary
pl.at to give the petitioner soma direction. We wi1Z never know what
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the grades are or what the drainage problems will be, or what variances
may be needed until we approve something.
Mr. Lindblad said the Parks & Recreation Commission are going
to have to have something to look at if they are to mak� a determination
on the park land.
� Mr. Utter said he agreed with Mr. Harris in that the petitioner
has �o ha��e sornewhere to start and he has to have acceptance o� this
plat before he can start working on the problems. .
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Mr. Drigans said he realized that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee had recommended approval of this
preliminary plat but as far as he was concerned there were too many
u�answerc� question�. He said he could see giving concept approval.
He�said v�e uo not have any correspandence from.Mr. O'Bannon on how
he feels this plat will fit in with his property.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said the petitioner was not asking for
concept approval. He said that although this was the most preliminary
plat they had loaked at in a long time, this was a request for prelim.=
inary plat approval.
Mr. Harris sai� the petitioiier wi.11 be able to establish the
street gradcs and lot grades after he has approval of this preliminary
plat.
NIr. Lindblad said he didn't think anything could be accomplished
by delaying the approval of this plat. He said we should either
approve or deny the preliminary plat at this meeting.
MOTION by Harris, seconded by B1air, that the Planning Commission
clos� the Pub]ic Hearzng on the request for consideration of a pre-
liminar� p1at, P.S. #74-OI, Rice Cr�ek Estates, by Goodco, Inc., an�d
Pine Tree Builders. Upon a vosce vote, a.Z1 voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
, P10TION by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that �he Planning Commission
. recommend to Cot�ncil approve of P.5. #74-01, a preliminary plat, Rice
� Creek Est.���=�s, by Goodco, Inc., and Pine Tr_ee Builders, a repZat of
1 part of Lots 9 and 10, Auditor`s Subdivision No. 22, Iocated betk�een
R.ice Creek I2oad and 61st Avenue Northeast and West of Benjamin Street,
wzth the following stipulations:
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for the extension of Br.iardale Ro�d. .
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Avenue or realignment of the cul-de-sac on petitioner's
property. 1'his may be negotiated at the time the discussion
'� takes place Wltl3 the Parks & Recreation Commission.
.(3) [�d.ZJiWd� be provided to park from 13enjamin in the vacinity of
thc South I.i.ne of Lot I5.
(4) .Subjec� to negotiation with the City for additional park Zand.
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Provide underground utilities.
One tree planted per 1ot, 2" minimum diameter.
Grades to be worked out with City Enqineering Department.
(8) Lots that have grade difficulties with a three to one slope
after the grade is established, be sodded within one year
of completion. .
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Woodside Court be tempoxarily dead-ended on the Easi and
6�est side of.the Theilmann property line.
AII Iots must meet minimum Iot size and have minimum front
footage and depth.
(11) After the grades have been established by the �ngineer's,
the p1ai: corne back to the Planninq Commission before Cour.cil
approval.
Upon a voice vote, liarris, Lindblad, Blair, and Fitzpatrick
voting aye, Driyans abstaining, the motion carried.
3. DESIGN�TION OF 1.11 MILES OI' STAT� AID STRE�TS
Mr. Harris�s�aid this was reviewed by the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommitt�e at their mEeting of February 13, 1974.
They changed the priority list as given in the February 7th memo from
Richard Sobicch. The priorities stayed i.he same .except that Main
Street from 83rd �v�nue N.E. to 85th Av�nue N.E. was inserted as number
three instead of number one. The Subcorunittee felt that they would
xather wait a year on this street until ihe North Park area was
settled.
Mr. C1ark said that with the mileage , that.would be allowed the
following year, they would be able to designate this street at that
time.
� Mr. Lindblad asked the advantages and disadvantages to having
State Aid streets. .
Mr. C1ark said a city is allowed to designate 204 of its street
as State �id str_ects. We collect construction money and maintenance
money based on the mileage dnsignated for State Aid. This year, the
City receivcd ;lIIS,000 5.n construction money. The disadvantages mirht
be that tticy dictat� haw th� road should be constructed. They must �
be 9 ton r.oads. �i'lie minimum width is 40' fect and they like to see
them �!4 feet or wider. Having a State Aid road does disrupt som�
neighborhoads because people�tend to driv� faster on these wi_der streets,
and it�}Zas been said that we are building speedways.
� Mr. C1ark said th��t on the list: of priorities recommended by the
Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Util.��.:ies Subcoinmittee th�t number 1
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Meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m., by Chairman Blair.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Blair, Stimmler, Peterson, Wagar.
MEMBERS EXCUSED: Caldwell.
OTHERS.PRESENT: Rollie Goodroad, 1821 Rice Creek Toad, 55112, 636-6421, Goodco, Inc.
Mrs. Larry Lembke, 1505 Ferndale Avenue NE, 55432, 789-5628, Homeowner.
Mrs. Roger Arel, 1521 Ferndale Avenue NE, 55432, 781-0978, Homeowner.
Charles E. Rice, 1541 Ferndale Avenue NE, 55432, 789-5054, Homeowner.
Ken Sjodin, 8729 Central Avenue NE, 55432, 786-0600, Counselor Realty,
Urbeck Property.
Jim Langenfeld, 79 63? LVay NE, 55432, 560-1969, Environmental Quality
Control Commission. •
Paul Brown, Director of Parks and Recreation.
Cathie Stordahl, Secretary to the Commission.
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' MOTIUN 6y Pe.tensvn, Seeonded by Glagatc, xa appn�ve �he M.�.v�.wte� a� �he Pcucfz�s and
Reetc.ecLt.i.vn Cammtis�s�.�n Mee�.i_v�g da,ted Januany 28, 1914. The Ma�'.i�n ea�ur,i.ed.
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Rollie Goodroad of Goodco, Inc., was present to discuss a plat he is proposing to
� develop in the Benjamin Street, Rice Creek Road area, As it presently stands, the
area which has been designated as park land would be about 32 acres in size. This
acreage is slightly larger than the normal 10% o£ the total project which is reauired
� to be dedicated as park land, but because of the �ay of the land and the platting that
� has been done, the contractor is asking the City to purchase the balance of the land.
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In addition to this purchase of land, there is the possibility that the culdesac
which is located on the southerly most boundary, will have to be moved,.cutting into
lots 12 and 13 (also referred to as lots 20 and 21 on earlier maps of the area). I�
the :culdesac is moved, these two lots wzll be considered unb�iildable, due to the
terrain, so the contractor would be asking the City to purchase these lots, also.
Mr. Blair agreed tha� if the culdesac has to be mov�d, the City Council should be
asked to purchase the two unbuildable Iots.
Mr. Peterson asked what the Commission is expected to
i that we should report if we want a park in that area,
to purchase the additional acreage and the two lots.
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and i£ we do, if we're willing
Mr. Stimmler reported that this is one area which we've consistantly had a major void
in park lands. �Ve have had monies budgeted for purchase of park property, but have
not been able to do so because �f the lack of desireable land in that area. We
desperately need a park in that area, and Mr. Stimmler felt we should proceed to
do whatever is necessary.
Mr. Goodroad was asked if he had an estimate of the cost to the City in this
' transaction? Mr. Goodroad didn't have any exact figures, but with the purchase and
special assessments, it would run about $ZO,OUO to �25,OOQ.
Mr. Stimmler asked Mr. Brown for the amount of money which had been set aside in the
� Budget for purchase of land in that area? Mr. Brown reported that there was $15,000.
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� I CE CREE K ESTATES CCOIV � T):
P�IOTION by waqcuc, Sec�nded i�y S.t,zm
, C.i,tc� t�c,vc.c6ia� e�he ba,�av�ce a��he
.us ave�: �l�e 10 o nec�u,vr.ed bc� ��.e C
�.n �he evev�t �ha,t �he cu.2de�sac .v�
� �he C�i.t y a,P� a t��-c6�a� e�he� e�w�
ccvvu.ed.
�a necammertd ��
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uv�c.c,r, z�.az �.�
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�NORTH If�i�SbR�CK PARK�
K S' d' was resent at the meeting representing Counselor Realty and
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Bernard Urbick, 5837 Arthur Street NE, Fridley. 1�1r. Urbick is the owner of three
lots which are located immediately south of his home. Two lots are �roposed for
private sale,.and the most southerly lot needs £ill and is pxoposed £or sale to
the City. This lot is adjacent to the newly located A-£rame building which was
donated to the City.
The lot is approximately 86' wide and would cost the City a roughly estimated
$5,000.00. It would require approximately 1500 yards of �ill to bring the lot up
to the standards of the area..
Mr. Blair recommended that the Commission ask the City Council to negotiate £ox the
� purchase of this additional land. He asked Mr. Brown if it was the intent of the
Department to maintain a skating rink? Mr. Brown said that it was.
� MOTION b Fe,te�c�avc Secanded 6 Glagcr�c,
�on � e�wr.c za�e a� �t e.2an 2aca�e w�c
�- —icam��ivtg, aiz a tuce e�r. �av� E
�a � e Patc ah Rech.ea��yi Cvmm.i:��s,�aK.
� OORE LAKE STUDY�
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Jim Langenfeld, a member of the Environmental Qu�.Iity Contro2 Commission and the .
Moore Lake Study Task Force, was present to discuss Moore Lake and the progress on
the study. Mr. Langenfeld asked if the Commissioners had received copies of the
study prepared by National Biocentric, Inc. of St. Pau1, concerning Moore Lake?
The study which the Commissioners had received was concerned with Highland I.ake
but was preparecl by the same company. The Moore Lake report was #246, dated
Augusfi 27, 1973. Mr. Langenfeld said that he would see that the Commissioners each
receive a copy. This report is a proposed study for Anoka County lakes.
There is the possibility that some federal funds may be available for this study,
but nothing has been finalized in respect to this.
Mr. Langenfeld asked if we were planning to proceed with our weed contxol for this
Summer and Mr. Blair responded that we were.
Mr. Langenfeld explained that several well-versed individuals had been at a meeting
of the task force and after listening to their plans for a detailed study, it would
be'completely impossible for a group�of people to attempt such a task and have any
success which could be beneficial to solving the problems at Moore Lake. These
individuals represented the University of Minnesota and companies which deal with
studies of this type. Even if the data could be collected, it would be almost
impossible �to compile it into data which could be processed and conclusions drawn.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PETITIUN COVER SHEET
February 25, 1974
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Petition No. 3-1974
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object Opposition to Proposed Preliminary Plat, P.S. #�-01, Rice Creek
� � Estates, by Goodco, Inc., and Pine Tree Builders, being a replat of Lot
10, Auditor's Subdivision #22, except the North 260 feet thereof; and
Lot 9, Auditor`s Subdivision #22, except the North 260 feet of the West
l32 feet, lying in the South Half of Section 13.
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February 14, 1974
UJe, the undersigned, are in opposition to the; -
"--------Prnposed Preliminary. Pl.at, P,S. ;`74-01 ,
Rice Creek Estates, by Goodc�, Inc.� and Pine Tree
Builders, being a replat of !_ot 'i0, Aud?tar's Sub-
division ;;'22, except the Nor�h 260 feet thereof; and
Lot 9, Auditor's Subdzv� sion ==;r229 except the � PJorth
260 feet of th� :!Jest 132 fee�, lying in the South
Half of Section 13, T-30, R-24, City of Fridle;�,
C,ounty of Anolca, 1�linne,ota. -
Generally,located betuleen Ri.ce Creek Road and 6'!st
� Avenue P.'. E. and !�lest of Benjamin Street N. E."
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EXCERPT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 6, 1974
5. REVIEW OF FINAL PLAT, RICE CREEK ESTATES, P.S. #74-01, BY
GOODCO, ZNC. AND PINE TREE BUILDERS: Being a replat of Part
of Lots 9 and 10, Auditor's Subdivision No. 22, located between
Rice Creek Road and 61st Avenue N.E,, and West of Benjamin Street
N.E.
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plat after it had
the pr�blems with
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the Planning Commission had asked to s�e this
the street grades, cross sections and some of
the neighbors worked out.
He said this did go to the Parks & Recreation C�mmission on
March 4th and they definitely wanted to purcha.se park land in this
area. The park land is in about the same areas as it was on the
plat you gave preliminary approval on February 20, 1974. If the
petitioner has to move the cul-de-sac entirely on his property and
loses what are now Lots 12 and 13 as buildable site, the park
department recommends ths purchase of the balance of these lots also.
Mr. Clark continued that this plat is diff�rent in that Woodside
Court dead-ends on the East side and instead of starting on the
West side of the Theilmann parcel, this area is now served by a
cul-de-sac. This would give the petitioner one more lat, but will
give the Theilmann's 7 lots instead of 8. Mr. Clark said this plat
would require some right of way tor the cul-de-sac on 61st Avenue
and the affected property owner at I541 Ferndale told me before
the meeting that he has not been contacted by the petitioner. -
Mr. Harris said he couldn't go along with this plat. He said
the reason the Planning Commission had approved �he preliminary plat
was to give the petitioner some direction and we gav� him eleven
stipulations. This plat doesn't follow these stipulations. Stipulation
7 and I1 are the o�ly stipulations that are answered and that �s on
the grades being established and the final glat caming back ta the
Planning Cammission. .
Mr. Theilmann said he gave up less Iand with this p`lat, but he
� would be left with 7 lots instead of 8 and he didn't like this plat
at all. He said he had no objection ta the preliminary pZat gresent�d
to the Planning Commission on February 20th.
' Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if
audience. Mr. Charles Rice
asked the property awner if
' right of way needed for the
said he �eould not.
the owner of Z541 Feri�dale was in the
said he was the owner. Mr. Fitzpatrick
he caould negotiate for the �dditional
cul-de-sac on 61st Avenue. Mr. Rice
' i7r. Clark said the present right of way caent up to the East
property line of Mi. Rice's property.
, Mr. Drigans said this was why he objected to approval of the
preliminary plat at the February 20th meeting. There �aere too many
unanswered questions. R'ow the petitioner has a different plat than
what we made our recon�mendation on. I`m ready to have them start all
' over at the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee level.
Mr. Clark said if the Planning Commission didn't like this plat,
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' they could recammend the pla� presented at the February 20th meeting.
' Mr. Theilmann said when he bought his property twenty �ears ago
he always felt he could plat this property into eight lots. After
paying taxes on it for all this time, he certainly couldn't agree
to seven odd-sized lots. He said he knew he would have to purchase
' some land set aside by the petitioner to make his lots meet the
front footage requirements, but he was willing to do that.
, Mr. Harris said that stip�lation 9 specifically states that
Woodside Court be temporarily dead-ended on the East and West side
of the Theilmann property line.
' Mr. Lindblad said he coulcln't see why the. cul-de-sac eouldn't
be an Lots lI and 12 and if Lot 13 were redrawn, T,at 13 could be
' a buildab]�e site. Then the peitioner wouldn't need the 25' right .
of way from the property owner at 1541 Ferndale.
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Mr. Harris said that if he was looking at this plat correctlg,
the section D-D or Lot ZO was going to need a variance on the front
setback of 10 feet. Mr. Harris asked if there were any unbuildable
lots. Mr. Clark said no.
Mr. Drigans said the lots are numbered differently than on the
preliminary plat we.approved. •
' Mr. Harris said there was no way that he could recommend this
plat-
' Mr. Clark said why don't you think about doing it this way,
reaffirm your approval of the plat presented at the February 20fih
meeting, and say that the plat that was presented tonight was
' unacceptable because of the big change West of the Theilmann parcel
and that as far as you're concerned the 61st Avenue cul-de-sac be
moved Easterly so that the bubble portian of the tux�n-around Zies �
' on Lots lI and I2 on this glat and that the park deparment purchase
the remainder of these two 1ots, making Lot 13 buildable.
' Mr. Drigans asked how many lots were an the plan presented tonight.
Mr. Cl.ark said 42. Mr. Drigans said the peti�ion�r had add�d another
lo� and isolated the Theilmann parcel.
' MOTZON by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that fihe Planninq Commission
recommend to Council that they reaffirm their approval of the pre2iminars
plat presented February 20, 1974 (called EXFIIBIT A) with the grades
' of the plan presented March 6th (called EXHIBIT B),superinposed on
Exhib�tt A, P.S. #74-OZ, Rice Creek Estates, by Goc.dco, Inc., and Pine
Tree Builders, being a replat of Paxts of Lots 9 and 10, Auditor's
' Subdivision No.22, located be�ween Rice Creek Road and 61st Avenue N_E.,
and P�est of Benjarr►in Street N.E. with the fo2lowing stipuZations:
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1. If sufficien.t right of w��y cannot be obtained from _the .
South side of 61st Avenue, then the cul-de-sac be totalZy
embodied on the plat on Lots 18 and 19, Exhibit A, and redraw
the Iot Zine of Lot 21, to make that a buildable site.
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2. Subject to obtaining street dedication from the Theilmann's
for the ext.ension of Briardale Road.
3. Walkway be provided to park from Benjamin in the vacinity
of the South Zine of Lot 15.
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Subject to negotiation with the City for additional park 1and.
Provide underground utilities.
One tree planted per lot. 2" minimum diameter.
Grades to be worked out with Citg Engineerin� Department.
(compl z ed wi th)
8. Lots that have grade difficulties with a three ta one slope
after the grade is established, be sodded within one yeax
of completion.
9. Woodside Court be femporarily dead-ended on the East and
We�st side of the Theilmann property line.
.ZO. A11 Zots r.►ust meet minimum 1ot size and have minimum front
footage and depth. .
11. After the grades have been established by the engineer's, the
' plat corrre back to the Planning Commission before Council
approval. (complied with)
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Mr. Theilmann asked if the Commission was aware that his property
was included in the legal description of this plat. Mr. Clark said
they were. This was included in case Mr. Theilmann would have -
decided to pla-� at this time.
� Mr. Drigans said he wanted to bring it to the attention cifi the
City Council that the Planning Commission was agproving the plat
presented to them on February 20th and not the plat the petitioner
' prepared for this March bth meeting. If there was any con�lict
at their Public Hearing on Marcl� llth, they should ref�r the plat
back to the Planning �ommission.
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MAILING LIST Council_ ,�- ��_ ��f
�.S.#74-Q1, Rice Creek Estates
`� Edwin A. Dropps Mr. & Mrs. Larry Morford
I�8415 Center Drive 6235 Kerry Lane N.E.
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55432 Frid�ey 55432
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�� Roland Goodroad Mr. & Mrs. James Skog
� 1821 Rice Creek Road 143Q Rice Creek Road N.E.
�� New Brighton, Mn 55112 Fridley, Mn 55432
Robert T. Weibert
255 Mercury Drive N.E.
Fridley, Minnesota 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Jahn �eaulieu
6244 Kerry I,ane N.E.
Fridley, Minnesota 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Marvin Johnson
6240 Kerry Lane N.E,
FridZey 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Russell Alberg
6236 Kerry Lane N.E.
Fridley 55432
M & M Properties
5298 Fillmore Street N.E.
Minneapolis, l�tn 55421
Helen L. Woodall
6283 Kerry Lane N.E.
Fridley 55432
Arvin & Richard Carlson
2913 Crest View Drive
Minneapolis, Mn 55418
Chies Bros.
4020 NoE. Tyler Street
Minneapoli�, Minnesota
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Mr. David Harris -
470 Rice Creek B.1vd. N.E.
Fridley, Minnesota 55432
Mr. & Mrsa Lavern Friend
1520 Rice Creek Raad N.E.
Fridley, Minnesota 55432
Mre & Mrs. �ichard ICinsman
134� Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridl.ey 55437
Mr. & Mrs. Clifforc� Lund
1346 Hillcrest Dri.ve N.E.
Frie�leyE Minnesata 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Richard Andersan �Ir. & Mrs< Thomas Eggen
6275 Kerry Lane N.E. 1344 Hillcrest Dr�.ve N.E�
Fridley 55432 Fridley� Minnes�ta 55432
Mr. & Mrs. John Carroll
1450 Rice Creek Road N.E.
FridleyY Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Umakant Mahajan
6259 Kerry Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Edward Clark
6251 Kerry Lane N.F..
Fridley 554�2
Mr. t� Mrs. Robert Ledin
6243 Kerry Lane N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Neal Jenewein
1342 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridiey 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Eugene Henkel /
1340 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley 55432 � �
Mr. & Mra. Roger Arel 1��"
1521 Fe�-ndale Avenue N.E.� ��
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Charles Rice
1541 Ferdale Avenue N.E.
Fridley, 55432 �'
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P.S. #74-0.1, Rice Creek Estates
Mr. & Mrs. John Peebles
Route 1
Clear Lake, Mn 55319
Elaine H. Brown
1511 Ferndale Avenue N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Larry Lembke
1505 Ferndale Avenue N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Eugene Zander
6041 Benjamin Street N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Korin
' 6051 Benjamin Street N.E.
Fridley, 55432
, Andrew P. Gawel Contractors,
2407 Washington Street N.E.
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55418
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1561 Ferndale Avenue N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Terry Clasen
1573 Ferndale Avenue NeE.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. nuan�: Pearson
1567 Ferndale Avenue 1�T . E.
Fridley 55432x
Richard Miller
1600 Rice Creek Road N.Ee
Fridley, 55432
, Mr. & Mrs. James Morrison
1615 Woodside Court NeE.
Fridley 55432
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1624 Woodside Court N.E.
Frid]_ey 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Phillip Jacobson
1618 Woodside Court N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Wallace Sax
1612 Woodside Court N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Lonnie Bowen
1602 Woodside Court N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. David La
6140 Briardale Cour N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. John Kapatas
6160 Briardale Court N.E.
Fridley 55432
Inc.
Mr. & Mrs. Howard LaBelle
6190 Briardale Court N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr� & Mrs. Jai Man Suh
6161 Be�jamin Street N.E�
Fricl�ley 55432 �
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City of Fxidley
Fridley, Niinnesota
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We are pleased ta respond to your letter request relative to certain
matters affecting the Fridley V.F.W., and we wish to state the
following:
The matters referenced have been investigated by the Housing Commit-
tee. From our investigation, it appears that, except for the occasion
some time now `�ell past in which tnere was lack of information and
knowledge on the part of the manager of the facilities as to t��e
earlier time requested by the City of Fridley for closing and vacat-
ing the premises, the matters and incidents �rougnt to your attention
are not matters a�iecting the V.F.tV. Clu� room facilities themselves
directly or V.F.�r1: merwers, but are, in fact, matters attendant to
and connected in themselves with tn.e rental and use of the balance
of the bui7.ding pre;zises by the public in genexal.
Unf�rtunate�.�, because of the physical nearness of the hall rental
premises �o tne V.F.4�d. Clui� -r_o�m sacilitv, and t�he need of necessity
within the building at present ior the use of comanon washroa �£aCTub
ties by those occupying the hall rental �remises and the V.F.
members, matters and incidents connected with the nall rentals have
been attributed as matters and incid.ents within the V.F.W. Club or
concerned with V.F.�7. members.
Be�that as it may, the Housing Committee has undertaken steps to
' eliminate any misunderstanding and also to better secure tne entire
premises against any disturbing incidents,.as well as iaithin the
V.F.��. Club room facilities themselves, so that any passible com-
plaints may be eliminated or reduced to a practical minimum so far
� as the V.F.W. itself can obtain in any meeting wi�.h the general
public. .
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So that all may be better informed in the maiter, the Housing Com-
mittee wishes all concerned to know tha� (first) the V.F.W. Club room
facility is a small part of the tota]. building premises, located in
the back of the building premises, restricted to members only, who
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may gain entry only by use of a key card. Any guest must be accom-
� panied by a member and must sign a guest baok rec�ister. Violations
of Club rules by any member or the guest of a member render tne guest
subject-to expulsion and tne member to suspension or expulsion (as
� appropriate) in respect to the use oF the club facilities b� such �
member.
Hall rentals are sepa-rate and are provided for in other parts of the
premises, which are adjoining, and usz of such building premises as
rentals are made available to otner organizations and the general
public under a general lease plan for sucn hiring and rental. Entry
by any sucn "hall rental users"into the V.F.t°T. Club room facilities
is not permitted, is denied, and is prohibited both under V.F.W.
C�,ib room rules and hall rental regulations. �epa?�ate police pro-
tection oi the ha11 rental premises is required and must be provided
by the "hall renter" during any activity; such police provided must
be personnel approved not onZy by the �T.F.T�7. but as well by the Police
Department of the City of Fridley.
To provide, nevertheless, better assurance of the elimination of any
possible disturbances, the Housing Committee has undertaken a course
which, in substance, is as follows;
l. The Club will, for its own interests, hereafter provide
within the V.F.W. Club facilities, in addition to the
manaqer or other person now in c:�ar;e at any time, at least
one additional man as a security person to '�e present
upon the premises (within the Club facilities) during any .
period when the hall rental premises of tne building are
being used or occupied, to counter any tendency, which
in the past allowed "mixing" of the persons attending and
present within the separate facilities, and in p�articular,
to assure no entrance into the V.r.ti�7. Club or dist��ban�e
from a person attending any hall rental and so reflect on
the V.F.W.
2. Doors and doorway facilities will be immediately considered
for re-arrangement and improvement near the washroom facili-
ties to enable better surveilance and better policing of
anyone and alI areas that may be deemed a_common area.
Further, improvements and re-arrangements of such common
facilita.es are to be considered and made as soon as adjoin-
ing areas now under lease to o�hers are freed of lease and
made available to the V.F.W.
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3. Rental arrangements �aill be reviewed for a more strict
application of rental policies and regulations and a
bet ter po licing of the rental premises by those renting
the hall premises--this to be not only as to the f acilities
provided or in use, but as well as to persons and personnel
to be provided and requi-red by those renting and using the
hall premises.
4. A general overall, strict attention to the further elimi-
nation of those matters whenever� they occur which reflect
adversely upon the V.F.ti�1. and. the premises as a whole.
We trust that this statement will assure you of the earnest desire of
the Housing Con�u-nittee and all the V.F.W. to work with you in any
problems for the good oi the City of Fridley, as well as our own
members.
Sincerely,
THE HOUSING COMT�IITTEE OF THE V.F.W.
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RESOLUTION N0. 54-1971
A RESOLUTION RI',1�'FIRMING THE 5 YEAR SIDEWEILK PROGRAM AND
ESTABLISHING THE POLICX AND ASSESSrTENT PROCEDURES FOR
SIDEWALK IMPROVF�IENTS
WI�REAS, the purpose of planning for the sidewalk program is to promate the
public safety and general welfare of L-lie total community, with the primary concern
to the safety of the pedestrian, the majoxity of which are children.
WHEREAS, the City embarked on the sidewalk program in 1966 and now there are
over 6.3 miles of sidewalks existing in the City.
WHEREAS, the sidewallc program covered the areas where heavy pedestri_an traffic
is being generated due to schools, churches and commer.cial businesses and the
stxeets have heavy vehicular traffic.
iJF�EREAS, the 5 ye�.r sidewalk improvenent program was prepared and approved�by
the City Council in September of 1969, talcing into consideration the dictates of
pedestxian safety and the requests of School District ��14 for the installation of
sidewalks on certain stxeet, and also to incxease the efficiency of the existing
5 miles of sidewalks.
WHERFAS, the City Council feels there should be an appropriate policy adopted
for the funding of the proposed sidewalk program.
WHEREAS, the State Legislature adopted a bill iz 1969 allowing the use of
Minnesota Highway Department Municipal State Aid monies for sidewalks on State Aid
Streets.
NOW, TIiE�'.EFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Council of the City of Fridley,
Anoka County, Minnesota as folLows:
1. The Ci.ty xeaffirm the adoption and continuation of the 5 yeax sidewalk
program as shown on the attached map marked exhibit A.
2. The installation of sidewalks wi21 be within the existing x�.ght of way
wherever it is pxactical.
3. The installation of sidewalks will be cooxdinated with the xoad
construction whenever possible.
NOW BE TT Fi3RTHEr� RF,SOLVED, by the Council of the City of Fridley, Anoka
County, Minnesota that the following assessment policy be used for assessing the
cost for the sidewalk improvements.
, 1. Residential Pxoperties (One &�ao Family Dwellings)
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A. On County and State Hiryh�oays the total cost of the sidewalks will
be assessed against the properti.es.
B. On Municipal State Aid Streets no cost wi11 be assessed against the
properties and the cost will be picked up by the T;unicioal State Aid
Fund.
C. Other Citv Streets where it is determined by the City to provide
sidewalks, tl�e cost will be charged to the State Aid R�volving Funds
or City General Funds.
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2. For all other properties except one and two family dwellings, 100 %
of the cost will be assessed against the properties.
ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY`OF�FRIDLLY THIS:. .3RD DAY
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0�' M�Y , 1971.
ATTEST:
MAYOR - Jack 0. Kirkham
CITY CLERK - Marvin C. Brunsell
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RESOLUTION N0. 1974
A RESOLUTWI�HINTT�EIGENERALEFUNDN(SILV�ER JUBILEE)PPROPRIATIONS
WHEREAS, The City Council has previously authorized certain
expenditures for the 25th Silver Jubilee beyond the budgeted
amounts allocated in the 1974 Budget.
NOt�, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, By the Council of the
City of Fridley meeting at a special meeting on the llth day
of March, 1974 as follows:
1. That the appr'opriation for the following
acti vi ty be reduced as fol l o�r�s :
Reserve for Contingencies $5,000
2. That the appropriation for the following
activity be increased as follows:
Department - City Manager $5,000.00
Silver Jubil�e
PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
FRIDLEY THIS DAY OF , 1974.
ATTEST:
CITY �LERK - MARVIN C. BRUNSELL
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MAYOR - FRANK G. LIEBL
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MEMO T0:
FROM:
SUBJECT:
OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER
FRIDL�Y, MINNESOTA
March 8, 1974
THE CITY COUNCIL
NASIM M. QURESHI, CITY MANAGER
REPORT ON POOR REVENUES (LOSS) SITUATION AT OFF-SALE STORE ��1
ON EAST RIVER ROAD AND 37TH AVEN[JE
The sales have been consistently dropping on the East River Road Liquor
Store since the closing of the Camden Bridge as has been evident by the num-
ber of reports submitted by the staff to the City Council. The year end
report for the mvnicipal liquor operation, ending December 31, 1973, (see
attachment "A") showed that in the last quarter of i973 at this store we
had total sales of $24,846.94, with a net loss of $6,154.29. This was the
quarter when the Camden Bridge was closed, even though the sales were
somewhat helped by the Christmas season. The loss would be over $4,000,
even if you discount the depreciation and some extraordinary expenses
during this quarter. The sales for the month of January and February are
$12,708, and it seems that the total sales for the first quarter of 1974
will be in the neighborhood of $18,000 to $19,000, which certainly shows a
further drop in sales in relation to the last quarter of 1973.
Taking this level of sales, we could be possibly running a loss of
$29,19Q in the year of I974. Even if we discount the depreciation and
other abnormal expenses, the loss could run in the neighborhood of $24,000
(See attachment "B"). In light of these f igures, it seems the situation at
this liquor store is quite serious, and necessitates certain actions by the
City: �
When we found out the Camden Bridge was closed, and it was going to con-
tinue that way for an extended period of time, we took steps to cut down the
extraordinary expenses and help to lower the total expenses. The information
I have now is that the store is being run with only one employee, and the
liquor store manager, Bob McGuire, indicates that he sees no other way of
cutting expenses down any further.
Some of the alternatives possible for the City to cope with the prob-
lems are as follows:
l. Shutting the doors of the liquor store. If this is done, it will
cut our loss right away to less than half, as we will still have to carry
some of the expenses and the rent for the store.
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2. New location on East River Road. Whether the City should pursue a
, . new location for a liquor store along East River Road just to try a differ-
ent location on this roadway.
� To explore this possibility, we have checked the possible locations
along East River Road and have found that there is a store available for rent
at the intersection of Osborne Road and East River Road, in the southeast
quadrant, the old grocery area of the gas station (see attachment "C" and "D").
� This area is over 2500 square feet,'and in discussion with the�two representa-
tives of the Kunz Oil Company, they are amiable to renting this space to the
City. As our interest is to only possibly rent the place for a trial, I
' pointed out to them we would only like to rent the space on a month to month
basis, with a long term lease, and also at a bare minimum rent, because the
City is not willing to spend a large amount of monies as we do not know what
, the potential of the location would be. The genaral agreement of these people
was as fbllows:
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A. They will be willing to rent the space for $200 a month to
start with for the f irst three month, with an increase of
rent of $50 per quarter, with the maximum rent going to
$400, with a cancellation clause of one month notice.
B. They will let the City use the large cooler they have in �
the shop now.
C. They will be willing to supply some of the shelving fihey
have in this store and some othex stores for City use.
D. They will be willing to abandon the gas station in the
later stages, if this was the desire af the City. They
indicated that presently they have close to 300 customers
going through the gas station; also, the space rented
to the south is rented to the Novelty Shop, and the other
area is the L�&W Root Seer Stand. Also, they are negotiating
. renting some space to a wholesale baker for day old bread.
All these businesses should bring in fairly good traffic.
It was f elt that these types of business in this location
would compZiment each other.
If the City Council feels this idea should be tried on a trial basis,
then this can be pursued further.
3. Com letel abandon the location at 37th and East River Road. The
City could consider completely abandoning this location for the time being,
sell the fixtures and other items, and move the setup to another location.
Use whatever we can and dispose of the rest of the things and try to work
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out an arrangement with George Nicklow to get out of the lease. At one
time he indicated that he would like to expand his bar area, so there
might be a feasible way of reducing the cost of the lease or subleasing
to someone else. If the Council wants us to pursue this, then we can
proceed on this also.
Status of. the Cainden Bridge: The latest information we have is that
a contract has been let by Minneapolis to tear down the Camden Bridge and
has been awarded to Bolander Construction Company. They are also working
on the final plans for the bridge, and they will be letting the contract
sometime this Spring, with the work to be started yet this summer if
everything goes well, with the potential completion of the bridge within
two year of the letting of the contract. This means that the earliest
the bridge can open is sometime early in 1977, with everything going along
at the expected pace without any serious hitches.
If Iater on it was desired to open the store, we do have a half acre
of land just north of the existing building at George Is In Fridley, which
the City owns, wher.e we could,put up a liquor store building.
I am making this proposal to the Council to bring you up to date on
the status of our liquor store, and the situation on the Camden Bridge,
along with some possible alternatives the Council could consider and
direct the administration to explore further and proceed on one of the
alternatives. If the City Council needs any further information or addi-
tional data, I would be glad to supply the same.
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Enc: A- Prof it and Loss Statement for year ending December 31, 1973
B- Estimate Sales and Profit Store ��2 for 1974
��- Area for rent at Osborne Road and East River Road -
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PR�FIT & LU:; � S�l'ATE,•i2:LQ'r
YEAR LNDING llLCI:i�I3L•'R 31, 1973
Beg�nning xnventory
Purchases
STORE ;r2 - 3710 EAST RIVEP. ROAD
J�ess End.ing Tnventozy
Cost �i � a�.es
Gross pxo�it
Gross Urofit /o
Oper_atinc; �x�a�rise
Sell �n:�--Salary-1•.anager
S�tl.a_ry-C1c:Aks
Bags � ��t?-apping
L�censes .
Cdsh Regis�er Exp�nse
Cash Shortage
Unco].lect�bl� Checics
Ovexhead
Util�.t�es
xnsurance
Rent .
Launc�ry
i;a? ntenance �; Renair
Supplies
Phor.e
Automatic 111�irm
V7a��e F�,eznoval
DC-�pt-���.�:ti.oll
l-:�ver'r.ising
Genera]_ .
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Boc�xkec�ina
Inven�o�:y Control
Dat� P�:ocessa.i�g
O:C�ice Supplies
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Total Operatiny �:�pense
Operatin��' Income
Other Income
Net Pro�:it (Loss)
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1973
$ 16,561,8�3
7, 75£3.99
5?6.07
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69,669.32
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417.13
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ATTACHI�1EN� "B"
ESTIMATE SALES AND PROFIT (LOSS)
STORE #2 (EAST RIVER ROAD)
YEAR 1974
Estimate Sales for 1974 (based on actual 8/18/73-
3/2/74 & 1/3 of actual
3/2/73-8/18/73) $ 88,795.
Estimate Gross Profit 1974 (24%) $ 21,310.
Estimate Expenses 1974 $ 50,500.
($ 29,190.)*
Estimate Loss 1974
* Loss includes
Depreciation $ 2,940.
Share of Managers
Saldry $ 5.500.
Rent $ 6,300,
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TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND ADMINTSTRATION FROM THE
DESK OF MAYOR FRANK Go LIEBL
March 9, 197�+
Since price controls were removed from bottle sales pf liquor
in Ju1y of Zg6g operating income from our off-sale stores has
gone steadily downward -
�.96g - - $150, o00
1970 - - $135,000 - - Down $15,000
1971 - - $l02,000 - - Down $33,000
1972 - - $ 76,000 - - Down $25,000
7-973 - - $ 33,000 - - Down $�3,000
Net operating loss at store #1 was almost $7,000 in 19725
the last full year this store was open.
Store #2 had a net operating loss of almost �8,000 for the
fourth quarter of 1973. Since the fourth quarter normally
accou.nts for about one third of the annual operating p rofit
there doesn't appear to be much hope for recovery at that
location.
1rlhate�rer the reasons, this record makes it� obvious that
' some decisions must be made immediately. Some action must
be taken soon, to correct tne problem, or wE must expect
to be forced out of the business in the not too distant future.
' I suggest the following steps be taken -
l. Since �he Camden b ridge was c�osed, sales at the #2
' store have dwindled to practically nothing. To the
best of our knowledge the b ridge will nat be opened
for two years. The best solution appea rs to be to
' close this store and ne;otiate the best possible deal
for termination of aur lease at that location.
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2. I suggest that we �onsider eliminating the position of
Liquor Manager and go to a Store Manager arrangement.
We have a purchasing agen� who could do the buying.
The Store Manager would put in his �0 hours per week
in the store to which he is assigned. Bank deposits
ai�d necessary reports could easily be arranged for.
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Assuming a Store Manager salary app roximately $2,000
per year above that of the clerks and with two full
time clerks to each store the annual payroll should
be substantially reduced. Each Manager would be free
to make all necessary decisions relating to�schedule
of working hours for the clerks, sale pricing dead
stock etc. - within guide lines lain down by the City
Administration. He would be responsible for successful
operatian of the store.
Above action should result in savings to the taxpayer
of $30,000 to �1�0,000 per year and help raise �Ehe net
profit to an acceptabl.e figure . If not, we should
seriously c:onsider getting out of the business.
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