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THE MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF THE FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL OF
AUGUST 14, 1978
The Public Hearing Meeting of the Fridley City Council was called to order
at 7:54 p.m. by Mayor Nee.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Mayor Nee led the Council and audience in the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Fla9.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Nee, Co�ancilman Barnette, Councilman Schneider,
Councilman Hamernik and Councilman Fitzpatrick
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
Mayor Nee requested an item be added to consider a resolution in support
of the City of Richfield tn their lawsuit regarding the constitutionality
of cumpulsory arbitration provisions of the Employees Labor Relations Act
of Minnesota.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to adopt the agenda as amended. Seconded
by Councilman Schneider, Upon a voice vote, all vot�ng aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
PUBLIC HEARING �N NUISANCE ABATEMENT; HAYES JUNK YARD•
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to open the Public Hearing. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all votin9 aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously and the Public Hearing opened at 7:56 p.m.
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated the propert�es involved are
generally located between 79th and 83rd Avenues from Hickory Straet ,7ust
east of the Burlin9ton Northern railroad tracks.
Mr. Sobiech, stated that on June 20, 1978 correspondence was directed to
the property owners involved which indicated they were in violation of
the Zoning Code regarding junk, debris and refuse and were g�ven to July
24, 1978 to abate the nuisance and clean up the propert�es. He stated,
as a result of this June 20 letter, three property owners have cleaned
up their properties. The properties that have been cleaned and are now
in compliance are Lots 14 and 15, Block 12; Lots 22, 23, 26 and 27 of Block
4, and Lots 16 and 17 of Block 12.
P4r. Sobiech stated, on �uly 27, 1978, correspondence was directed to all
the remaining property owners indicating that a public hearing had been
set regarding the abatement of the nuisance. He stated that correspondence
was received from Mr. Wyman Smith, Attorney representing Mr. Carl Sorensen,
who thought perhaps the City should be the ones to clean up the l�tter
and had concern about whose lots would be charged for any abatement of
nuisance.
Correspondence was also received from Mr. Ke�th Larson, Vernon Eide and
Timothy Etde, property owners of Lots 9 through 22, Block 13, �ndicating
they would like to see the City clean up the property and suggested what
they felt an appropriate prtce might be to abate the nuisance. Mr. Sobiech
stated the other correspondence was received from Eldore Olson, who owns
Lot 30, Block 5, wh�ch indicated she would like to see the City abate the
nuisance and to keep in mind a fair and �ust treatment of her property.
Mr. Sobiech stated the City did solic�t bids from two contractors regarding
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costs for abatement of the nuisance. Gallagher's Service, Inc. stated the
cost would be $8,700 plus an add�tional $200 for removal of the dwelling.
Park Construct�on stated the cost would be $20,000.
Mr. Sobiech stated, after dTSCUSSion with the bidders, it was the City's
opinion that the price differential was the result of the procedures used.
He pointed out that Gallagher's has their own dumping site and dumpsters
and Park Construction would have to rely on other equipment. Mr. Sobiech
stated staff would recommend that Gallagher's be contracted to remove the
debris from the site.
Mr Sobiech stated, in preparing costs to the indtvidual property owners,
a determination was made regarding the amount of debris and extent of
nuTSance on each lot. Based on the ratio of henefit, the lots were color
coded regarding the amount of debris on the property and the cost for
removal to abate the nuisance. Mr, Sobiech stated the lots shown 7n "red"
would be charged $741.67 per lot; the ones shown in "orange" would be
$463.54 per lot; the ones shown in "yellow" would be $115.19 per lot; the
ones in "blue" would 6e $55.91 per lot and the ones shown as "green" are
the ones that have already been cleaned up. Mn. Sobiech stated th7s
resulted in tabulation of the costs for specific property owners who own
lots 7n the area. He pointed out the minimum a property owner would pay
is $55.91 and the maximum is $5,801.71.
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to receive the correspondence from Mr.
Wyman Smith, representing Mr. Carl Sorensen; the correspondence from Keith
Larson and Vernon and Timothy Eide; and the correspondence from Eldore
Olson. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Uoon a vo�ce vote, all voting
aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Wyman Smith stated he is not sure the City has a nuisance. He ex-
plained this is heavy industrial property and the zoning would allow people,
with certain barriers, to have �unk on the property. He stated that John
Hayes lived there among this ,7unk and used all these lots.
Mr. Smith stated, as he understands the nuisance ordinance, it has to
effect the public health and he is not sure a car body on the lots is
a health hazard. He stated Park Construction wants to purchase these
lots and if the City doesn't do anything, th�s situation will work itself
out. He stated, aesthetically it is bad, but questions if there is a health
menace. He felt someone would probably pay for the scrap metal and there
would be money to be made instead of spending it.
Councilman Barnette stated he thought the original complaint came from
residents across the tracks on odors and rodents.
Mr. Glen Syverson, Route l, Box 104N, Big Lake, Minnesota, stated he had
contacted the Hayes people about five years ago and asked them to please
have the �unk removed from his property. He stated they said they would
if they had a chance to do it. He felt the Hayes people were responsible
for cleaning up the property. He stated his attorney stated he could
legally take all the �unk and put it back on the Hayes property.
Councilman Barnette stated he agrees with Mr. Syverson, but that would
require a civil su�t between him and the Hayes estate.
Mr. Sobiech asked Mr. Syverson if he was in favor of getting the property
cleaned up.
Mro Syverson stated he is interested in having the property cleaned up,
but didn't feel the property owners should have to bear the cost to clean
up the stuff that has been put there by the Hayes people, as he believed
,7ust a6out all of it was theirs.
Mayor Nee pointed out the proposal to clean up Mr. Syverson's property
would cost about $2,400 and asked how he felt about this.
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Mr. Syverson felt he didn't really want to pay for it and pointed out, if
he was assessed th�s amount, it would have to be paid off before he could
sell his property
Mayor Nee asked if he felt his property was a hazard to children. Mr.
Syverson stated, if they are running around barefoot, there is glass and
nails around.
Mr. Wyman Smith stated he questioned whether the court would agree there
�s any health problem from tires on his lots, as he didn't feel it was
a health problem.
Mr. Walter, 3508 32nd Avenue N.E., P4inneapolis, questioned why the City let
the Hayes people put all the stuff on the lots He stated, several years
ago, the City told htm which was his lot and he and his wife have cleaned
it up and he now was told he cleaned the wrong lot.
Mr. Sobiech stated Mr Zgutowicz owns Lot 23 of Block 12 and the cost to
clean up his lot would be $463.54.
Councilman 6arnette po�nted out the City doesn't have people out at the
lots to see who dumped the debris.
Mr. Zgutowicz stated the stuff belongs to the Hayes people.
Councilman Barnette stated, as he understands, this then 6ecomes a civil
suit between the property owners and the Hayes estate.
Mr. Syverson questioned, if the lots are cleaned up, what is to guarantee
that stuff wouldn't again get dumped on the lots.
Mr. Sobiech stated the problem they have now �s that the site attracts
people to dump. He stated, when it is cleaned up, "no dumping" signs
would be posted.
Mr. Wyman Sm�th stated he felt Hayes had 6een operating illegally all these
years as he never had a permit. He stated the police were afraid to go
on the property because of the dogs and guns he had. He stated now the
City wants to come along and put a$2,400 charge on innocent people to
accompl7sh something he doesn't think the City needs to do.
Mr. Doug Klint, actin9 City Attorney, stated, 6y ord�nance, the Counc�l
does have the right of declaring it a nuisance and abating the nuisance
and to recover the cost by civil act�on or by assessment. He stated the
City has the option of going either way.
Mr. Warren Johnson, representing Northern States Power, stated NSP has
five lots and they want to be good neighbors and do what is right for the
area. He stated he sympathizes wtth the property owners and if there was
any way this could 6e put back on the Hayes estate, he would like to see
this done. He stated, if this wasn't possible, NSP would be willing to
go along with the proposal of the City for cleaning up the lots at the
cost of $656.b7.
Councilman Barnette questioned if anyone had seen the Hayes people put
de6ris on their propert�es Mr. Wyman Smith indicated he had.
� Mayor Nee asked Mr. Syverson if he felt the tires and wheels were saleable
to the ,7unk yard. Mr. Syverson felt this was a possibility as the tires
do have rims on them.
Mr Syverson stated he moved a lot of the mater�al back over to the Hayes
lots and r�ght now there isn't enough stuff on his property to �ustify a
cost of $2,4D0 for removal of the debris.
Mr. Sobiech pointed out the reason why Mr. Syverson's cost is quite high
is because of the fact that he does own quite a number of lots in the area,
and also stated his property is immediately ad,7acent to the Hayes property
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Mayor Nee stated, it seems from the standpoint of liability, it is a
hazard as it now stands.
Mr. Syverson
any way for
sponsible.
stated he doesn't hold the people of Fr�dley respons�ble in
the condit�on of the land, but holds the Hayes people re-
Councilman Barnette pointed out the complaints he had were on the rodents.
He stated this s�tuation gets to be a health hazard.
Mr. Wyman Sm7th asked if p�ctures were available of h�s two lots, that
is, Lots 22 and 23, Block 5. He was then shown photographs of these lots.
He felt there wasn't any health hazard at all, although there were weeds
on the property. ��1r. Sm�th stated he wouldn't spend $300 to do anything
on these lots and felt there might be $10 worth of work and no health
menace. f�1r. Sm�th felt private enterpr�se would work these things out,
if the lots are put together and sold as one package for industrial use.
Councilman F�tzpatrick stated he has also received compla�nts, from persons
living across the tracks from this property, and felt it should be cleaned
up. He stated, the question in his mind is who should pay for it. He
felt there was a health hazard and the C�ty has received complaints.
He stated, in his sense of ,7udgement, he feit the cost should be assessed
against the property that caused it.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to rece�ve the bids from Gallagher's
Service, Inc. and Park Construction. Seconded by Counc�lman Hamernik.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor IVee declared the motion carried
unan�mously.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to receive the estimates regard�ng the
potent�al assessment distributions for the various lots. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor idee de-
clared the motion carried unan�mously.
No other persons in the audience spoke regarding this item of business.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to close the Pu61ic Hearing. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee de-
clared the motion carried unanimously and the Public Hearing closed at
8 45 p.m
NEW BUSINESS:
CONSIDERATIOIV OF NUISANCE ABATEh1ENT, HAYES �WVK YARD:
Councilman Hamernik stated now that the property owners know the position
of the C�ty, he quest�oned if they had any plans of their own to take
action for cleaning up the property.
Mr. Syverson stated he has been out to h�s property the last several
weekends trying to clean up and now there are tires aga�n spread around
his property. He felt if they could get the Hayes part taken care of,
he could take care of h�s property.
Mr. So6iech asked if they could proceed witn the abatement on all areas
where there �s an ind�cation that the property owners want the City to
proceed, together with the Hayes property and, in the interim, let the
other property owners abate their nuisances �f, in fact, there �s some-
thing on the property they could sell, this would then give them a chance
to do so.
Counc�lman Barnette felt, by cleaning up the Hayes property, it would
satisfy most of the surround�ng property owners.
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Councilman Fitzpatrick felt, if the ma�or pile of debris on the Hayes
property was taken away, the other property owners could clean up their
lots and have them stay that way.
Councilman Barnette asked the property owners if this seemed like a reason-
able answer to the problem.
Mr. Syverson felt he would like a little more time given than was in the
original letter.
Mr. Sobiech asked Mr. Johnson, who was representing NSP, if they wished
the City to proceed. Mr. Johnson stated they would be in favor of this
if the cost didn't exceed $656.67.
Councilman Hamernik questioned if the structure on the Hayes property would
be removed. Mr. Sobiech stated �t would and the foundation portion would
be filled.
Mr. Doug Klint, acting City Attorney, stated if the City were to encourage
a �unk dealer to go on private property, he felt the City would be protected,
�f they first declared the property a nuisance as this would be part of
the abatement procedure.
MOTIOiV by Councilman Hamernik to request staff to draw up a resolution
and bring it back at the next Counc�l meeting to include the cleam n9
up of the Hayes property along with the other properties whose owners
desire to have the City clean their property Seconded by Councilman
Schneider.
Mr. Sobiech asked 7f �t would be best to declare all the properties a
nuisance and then allow the property owners who wished to abate the
nuisance themselves do so.
Mr. Doug Klint felt �t should be done in this manner and stated he
would work with staff on the resolution.
UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE MOTION, all voted aye, and Mayor Nee de-
clared the motion carried unan�mously.
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this is an item that was
previously before the Council in May of this year where the Council
approved a plat and together with that approval, there was rezonin9 of
the southern portion of property. He stated, what remained, was a large
M-2 industr�al lot. However, since that approval, the Planning Commission
heard a request for a lot split for Lot 3 on this same plat. Together
with the lot split, there was also a petition to rezone Lot 3 to M-l.
Mr. Sobiech stated, the Planning Commission, at their �uly 12 meeting,
indicated approval of the lot split with appropriate easements and
stipulations. He stated staff determined that the plat had not been
recorded, as of this date, and felt the lot split could be included �n
the plat. He stated, therefore, reapproval is requested on f�nal plat;
preliminary subdivision P.S. #78-04, Easi Ranch Estates 3rd Addition,
to include this lot split. He stated the rezoning request would come
before the Council in September and if denied, the developer would have
to bu�ld under the M-2 zoning.
Mr. Sobiech stated one of the stipulations of the Planning Commission
at the rezonin9 hear�ng was the developer work w�th the C�ty to insure
proper drainage. He stated they have been in contact with the property
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owner and will use holding or retention ponds and they have the drainage
easements on the plat.
Mr Benson was present representing the developer and he stated Mr.
Paschke wanted to develop Lot 3 into two parcels. He explained there would
be one build�ng on the lot and, therefore, they would be utilizing two
lots for one bu�lding. He stated it was originally intended to have two
bu�ldings, with a common lot l�ne, however, there will now only be one
20,000 square foot building on the two lots.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to reapprove the final plat, P.S. �78-04,
East Ranch Estates 3rd Add�tion with the revision that Lot 3 be split
into two lots, one 1.1 acre lot and one 1.5 acre lot, with the stipulations
regard�ng the draina9e easement which is to be included in the final plat.
Seconded by Councilman Barnette, Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Nee declared the mot�on carried unanimous7y.
ON N0. 72-1978 DIRECTING PREPARATION OF ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR
nnoonvrMCniT oonirrr cT in�G_n.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 72-1978. Seconded
by Councilman Hamernik. Upon a vo�ce vote, all votin9 aye, Mayor Nee
declared the mot�on carried unam mously.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to adopt Resolution No. 73-1978. Seconded
by Counc�lman Schne�der. Upon a vo�ce vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the mot�on carried unanimously.
ON N0. 74-197H DIRECTING PREPARATION OF ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR
MOTION by Councilman F�tzpatr�ck to adopt Resolution No 74-1978. Seconded
by Councilman Hamernik. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the mot�on carried unan�mously.
LUTION N0. 75-1978 DIRECTING PUBLICATION 0
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MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution 75-1978. Seconded
6y Councilman Hamernik. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor fdee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
RESOLUTION N0. 76-1978 DIRECTING PREPARATION OF ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR THE
197� SERVICE CONNECTIONS:
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to adopt Resolution No. 76-1478, Seconded
by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
LUTION N0. 77-1978 DIRECTING PUBLICATION OF HEARING (
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PROPOSE� ASSESS-
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution No. 77-1978. Seconded
by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all vot�ng aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
78-1978 DES
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MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to adopt Resolution No. 78-1978. Seconded
by Counci7man Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
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