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THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FRIDLEY CiTY COUNCIL OF OCTOBFR
23, 1978
The Regular Meei�ng of the Frtdley City Council was called to order at
7:42 p.m. by Mayor Nee.
PLE�GE OF ALLCGIANCE:
Mayor Nee led the Council and audience in the Pledge of Allegiance to
the Flag.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Nee, Councilman Fitzpatrtck, Counc�lman
Hamernik, Councilman Schneider and Councilman
Barnette
MEMBERS ABSENT. None
APPROUAL OF MINUTES:
REGULAR MEETING, SEPTEMBER 25, 1978:
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to approve the minutes as presented. Seconded
by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all v�ting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick
Seconded 6y Councilman Hamernik.
Nee declared the motion carried
OPEN FORUM, VISITORS.
to approve the agenda as submitted.
Upon a votce vote, all voting aye, Mayor
unanimously.
Mr. Ed Wilmes, representing the Islands of Peace Foundation, thanked the
Counctl for attending the recent ceremonies at the Islands of Peace Mr.
Wilmes stated he feels a personal sense of duty to inform the Council re-
garding questions, pertatning to operatian and programming, asked of �im
Langenfeld at the last Council meeting. Mr. Wilmes stated, regarding the
operation, thts ts the responsib�lity of the Islands of Peace and the
activtttes within the reception center building are to be coordinated with
the Islands of Peace. Mr. Wilmes stated, regard�ng programs, a lot of
research has been done by people and groups who use the Islands of Peace.
He stated tt has been suggested there is enough organized games and programs,
but what the groups really en�oy is getting outdoors and using the trails
prov�ded on the Islands of Peace P4r Wilmes explained the programming
is be�ng studied and researched and he believed the procedures and suggestions
taken are coming from people who are knowledgeable �n what the programs
should be.
Mr. Wtlmes stated the Islands of Peace Foundat�on is not standing still
in the areas of ma�ntenance, operation, and programming and assured the
Council that progr•ess will be made. He stated �t is not their �ntent
to put the burden on the City.
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Mr. Wayne Sampson, Director and Treasurer of the Springbrook Nature Center
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Foundation, appeared before the Council regarding a request for sewer and
water to be supp7ied through Coon Rapids.
Mr. Sampson stated a plan was presented to the Council on April 1, 1976 for
development of the Springbrook Nature Center. He stated the plan was in
two phases, the first part which was approved by the Council. He pointed
out the plan contemplated construction of restroom facilities on the southeast
corner of the property near the intersect�on of 83rd Avenue and Main Street.
Mr. Sampson stated, for all pract�cal purposes, they have completed all the
elements of Phase 1, w�th the exceptton of construction of the restroom
facil�ties. Mr Sampson stated the Board of tYie Springbrook Nature Center ,
Foundation has concluded that the best site for the factltties would be near
the parkinq lot area. He stated the previous site recommended was ad�acent to
faciltties provided by the City He explained the s�te now recommended is
ad�acent to sewer and water supplied by Coon Rapids and stated, he understood,
there are agreements made, at times, between cities where honk-ups are permitted
for Coon Rapids to service Fr�dley or vice versa.
Mr. Sampson requested the Council prepare a request to Coon Rapids to permit
sewer and water service from Coon Rapids to 6e used at the Springhrook Park
Nature Center Site.
Mayor Nee asked if there has been any contact with Coon Rapids regarding
this request.
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated the only contact has been with
the Publ�c Works staff at Coon Rapids, however, their feeling �s there
wouldn't be any object�on to a �oint powers agreement to provide the
services. P4r Sob7ech explained, however, this would 6e quite a long
extension and the est�mated cost would be $3,OOD to $3,500.
Mr. Sampson felt the total footage �nvolved for the extension would proba6ly
be about 300 feet.
Councilman Barnette questioned �f the cost to provide the sewer and waier
services would be pa�d by the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation. Mr.
Sampson stated these costs would 6e paid with the funds from the Depart- '
ment of Natural Resources grant.
Mr. Sampson explained their primary purpose for getting the facilit�es
at this t�me is to commit funds, under the DNR grant, before the time limit
expires at the end of this year. He stated sewer and water facilities wouid
6e brought to the site, however, the restroom facilit�es would not be
constructed at this t�me.
Counc�lman Barnette suggested that possibly the sewer and water facilities
could be brought in when plans are drawn for the building.
Mr. Sampson expTained that, if the funds are not committed before the end
of th�s year, they would probably lose them. He further explained the
Foundat�on has two applications to different agencies for funding. He
stated, he understands, their request for funding has been given high
prior�ty by the Metropolitan Council, but no commitments have 6een made.
Councilman Schneider questioned if there was any chance they would not
need the sewer and water facilities at that particular location on the
property.
Mr. Sampson stated they have two a7ternatives, either to stay with the
satellites or construct something more permanent. He stated the Board
hasn't voted to build restroom facilities in that area, 6ut this would
be his recommendation. '
Councilman Schneider asked, in the overall plan, if the building would be
located near the area they propose for sevaer and water. P�r. Sampson
stated the area where they want the sewer and water facilities would be
the closest to the proposed building site.
Councilman Barnette felt possibly it should be decided where the building
would be located 6efore proceeding with sewer and waier.
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Mr. Sampson pointed out, if the building was not constructed, the restroom
facilities would be constructed near this location. He stated, in either
event, whether they do or do not construct a 6uildin9, he sees a need
for the sewer and water.
Councilman Schneider felt eventually sewer and water would be needed and
it would probably be more costly to do it at a future date.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to authorize staff to enter into negotiations
� with the City of Coon Rap�ds to supply sewer and water service for the
Springbrook Nature Center. Seconded by Couna�lman Fitzpatrick.
Mayor Nee explained this motion does not order the improvement, but authorizes
staff to contact the City of Coon Rapids regarding connections to their sewer
and water system.
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llPOY A UUICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, all voted aye, and Mayor Nee
declared the motion carr�ed unanimously.
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE PLANPlING fOMMISStON MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 27, 1978
ALLEN BE STAHLBERG, SP #78-10. 8053 RIVERVIEW TERRACE:
Mr. Sobiech, Publ�c Works Director, stated th�s is a request for a special
use permit to allow construction of a single family dwellinq in the flood
plain area on the southeast quadrant of Rivei°vieva Terrace and Fairmont
Street.
Mr. Sob�ech stated basic requ�reme��ts must be met for the request to be
considered for approval. There must be no negative comments from the De-
partment of Natural Resources; the structure must be constructed relative
to the flood plain so as to provide protection; and 15 feet on all s�des
of the butlding must be above the flood plain level Mr. So6iech stated,
as far as the City is concerned, all the requirements for the special use
permit have been satisfied. Mr. Sobiech stated the Planning Commission
did hold a public hear�ng on this request and have recommended approval.
Councilman Fitzpatrick questioned if this request covered Lots 23, 24, 25
and 26. He potnted out that the Council's information dtd not include
Lat 26.
Mr. Sobiech stated the original request did incliade all four lots, 23,
24, 25 and 26; therefore, he explained thts must be a typing error as
the public hear�ng notice included all the lots.
MOTION by Counctlman Fitzpatrick to concur with the recommendation of ihe
Planning Commission and grant SP #78-10. Seconded by Councilman Hamernik.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the mot�on carried
unanimously.
AMOCO OIL COMPANY, SP #78-11, 5311 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E..
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this is a request for a special
use permit to allow construction of a car wash addition to an existing
service station at 53rd and University Avenues.
Mr. Sobiech stated the Planning Commission held a public hearing on this
request and recommended approval with certain stipulations, as noted on
' Page 2E of the agenda book. Mr. Sobiech stated the alley that presently
exists to the east of this property is now unimproved. He stated one of
the stipulations recommended by the Planning Commission was, in the event
the alley was improved, that the petittoner agree to pay their fa�r share
of the �mprovement or, if the alley was vacated in the future, to provide
the proper setbacks. Mr. Sobiech then reviewed the other stipulations
recommended by the Planning Corrunission. He pointed out some landscaping
improvements have been made on the south and west sides of the property
and suggested another stipulation be added to cover maintenance of the
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landscaping.
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Councilman Fitzpatrick felt there should be screen�ng to the east, regard-
less of the hours of operation. He noted the petitioner for the special
use perm�t is Standard Oil, but the hours of operation would depend on the
lessee. He stated he was concerned because this property a6uts a res�dential
area to the east and is not sure at this point, what the procedure would
be for d7scussing the hours of operation,
Mr. McGregor, representing Standard 0�7 Company, stated they agreed, af
the hours of operation on the car wash extended past 10 p.m., they would
put up a fence. He pointed out, since the Minnesota Franchise Law has
come into effect, they can't exercise the control over the hours of operat�on.
Mr. Herrtck, City Attorney, stated, if the Council approves the special
use permit it could be contingent on certain hours of operation and woultl
apply to the lessee. He stated, in this way, the City would exercise control
over the hours of operation.
Councilman Fitzpatrick felt the 6 a.m. opening was too early and should
be Tater.
MOTION by Councilman F�tzpatrick to concur with the recommendation of the
Planning Comm�ssion and 9rant SP #78-11, with the following stipulations;
l. In the event the alley is vacated, or improved, final improvements
be made.
2 The building be surrounded by a 5 foot concrete apron.
3. On the north end, a 5 foot allowance for landscaping from the
property line, and in the northwestern corner of the lot there
should be sod.
4 The car wash �s not to be conducted between the hours of 10 p.m.
and 7 a.m.
5. Screen�ng will be provided along the back or east side of the
property.
6. There shall be continued maintenance of the existing and any
additional landscaping.
Seconded by Counc7lman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Nee declared the motion carried unantmously.
REVIEW OF SIGN ORDINANCE (FREE STANDING SIGNS
Mr. Dick Harris, Chairman of the Planning Commission, appeared before the
Council regarding clarification of the Council's wishes on review of free
standing signs.
Councilman Schneider stated it was not his intent to have the Planning
Commission review the entire Sign Ordinance. He pointed out there have
been a number of variance requests for free standing signs and he felt the
Commission should take a look at this area possibly to cons�der some formula
based on the size of the builtling and setback from the main thoroughfare.
Councilman Schneider stated he had no particular formula in mind, but there
might be some reasonable way of determining the size of a sign by com-
parison wtth the size of the building and distance from the ma�or thorough-
fare.
Mr. Harris felt possibly they might consider a similar type of formula
they have for wall s�gns, but still keep the variance procedure.
Councilman Hamern�k pointed out the City has had people saying certain signs
are standard signs used in other areas and yet they didn't meet the City
Code.
Mr. Jim Stafford of Signcrafters Signs stated he felt Fridley is probably
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more liberal than other cities and manufacturers of signs are butlding types
that meet the cities' requtrements.
Mr. Harris stated the Planning Commission would discuss this matter again
as it was not clear before what was the Council's intent.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to receive the minutes of the Planning Commission
Meeting of September 27, 1978. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIIlING THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF OCTOBER 4, 1978•
TIMOTHY P4UNN AND TOD� BLAIR; SAV #78-04 (MUNN'S HILLCREST ADDITION):
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to set a public hearing on this item at the
earliest possible date. Seconded by Councilman Hamerntk. Upon a votce
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motton carried unanimously.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to receive the minutes of the Planning
Commission Meeting of Octaber 4, 1978. 5econded by Councilman Schneider.
Councilman Schnetder stated, in the Environmental Quality Commission minutes
of September 19, 1978, there is referral to the MnDOT Plan - Pos�tion
Paper, and questioned what the paper consisted of.
Mr. Sobiech, Publ�c Works Director, stated staff is receiving input from
the Commisstons and this would then proceed through the Commission structure
to the Cauncil.
UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, all voted aye, and Mayor Nee
declared the mot�on carried unanimously.
SPECIAL USE PERMITS - BURDEN OF PROOF
ICK HARRIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING
Mr. �ick Harris, Chairman of the Planning Commission, bought to the Council's
attent�on a recent court case regarding special use nermits which changed,
substantially, the burden of proof on approval or denial of a special use
permit. He questioned if the Planning Commission should continue to follow
the policy that the burden of proof for denial is on the City.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated there was a recent case involving a suburb
of St. Paul pertaining to development of a qravel mining operation where the
burden of proof fell on the petitioner. He stated, however, he would be
hesitant, based on this one case, to say the burden of proof has shifted as
it would seem the City has the obligation to show that by the granting of a
special use permit, it would be detrimental to the City as a whole or
surrounding neighbarhood.
Mr. Harris stated he understands then the Planning Commission is to continue
the same policy; however, he requested copies of this particular case for
the Planning Commission to review
ENERGY COMMITTEE- (DICK HARRIS, CNAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION)
Mr. Harris, Chairman of the Planning Commission, stated seven mem6ers have
been appointed to the Energy Committee, including Mr. Jim Langenfeld, who
will serve as a liason between the Comm�ttee and Planning Commission. He
pointed out the persons who agreed to serve are well qualified and have good
credentials.
Mr Harris stated he would act as a temporary chairman for the first meeting
scheduled for November l, 1978 and after several meetings, they would elect
their own chairman. He explained the Energy Committee would be a sub-
committee of the Planning Commission and requested clerical assistance. He
felt they would need a tape machine and someone to take the minutes of the
meeting
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MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to provide clerical help to the Energy
Committee. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
Councilman Schne�der requested the Council be provided with a list of the
names and addresses of persons serving on the Energy Committee.
RECFIVING THE MINUTES OF THE CABLE TELEVISION COMMISSION MEETING OF
SEPTEMBER 21, 1978:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to receive the minutes of the Ca61e
Television Commission Meeting of September 21, 1978. Seconded by
Councilman Hamernik Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF MODIFICATION OF LETTER OF INTENT TO SUBPIIT PRELIMINARY
APPLICATION FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT BONUS FUNDS:
Mayor Nee stated this letter of intent has been revised along the lines
requested by the Council
MOTION by Councilman Fttzpatrick to approve the letter of intent to submit
preliminary applicatton for community development block grant bonus funds.
Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
IDERATION OF A SIGN PERP4IT REQUEST BY
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Mr. Sobtech, Public Works Director, stated this �s a request by Anoka County
to permit erection of a sign at the Columbia Arena. He pointed out that all
signs erected on public property require Council approval.
Mr Sobiech stated the purpose of the sign is to provide identification of
the arena and to identify the activit�es at this location.
Councilman Schneider questioned what the requirements would be to permit
this sign.
Mr. Sobiech stated the requirements for private property would be 80 square
feet, but there are no requirements regarding public property.
Councilman Schneider pointed out this is an example of what the Counctl
discussed earlier with Mr Harris regarding free standing signs.
He felt, however, the sign did not overpower the building and the lot was
large enough to accommodate th�s sign,
Counc�lman Hamernik hoped Mr. Harris would review the matter of free
standing signs with the Planning Commission since he can see some of the
pro6lems that arise.
Councilman Fitzpatrick felt this is a large area and could adequately
accommodate the sign,
Mr. Jim Stafford of Signcrafters submitted copies of the proposed sign.
He stated, at this time, they do not know what the colors would be.
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to grant the sign permit requested by
Anoka County Seconded by Councilman Hamernik Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF E7(ECUTION OF LEASE FOR HOLLY CENTER LIQUOR STORE•
Mr Brunsell, City Clerk, stated, if the Council approves the lease, it
also authorizes the addition for the City liquor store plus the additional
30 feet He stated the lease is substanttally the same as the last lease,
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except for the part relating to the buildtng addition and the fact that
the City will be participattng in the cost of the taxes and special
assessments on the addition.
Mr Herrick, City Attorney, felt the only unusual item in the lease was
the fact that the escalation clause included special assessments. He
stated taxes are usually included, but not the special assessments since
taxes are considered expenses and special assessments an improvement. He
felt the Council may wish to determine if the item on special assessments
was negotiable.
Mr. Brunsell stated staff could certainly discuss this with Mr. Levy and
report back to Council or the lease could be approved, without the
provision on the special assessments.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to approve the lease for the Holly Center
Liquor Store, but eliminating the provision for participation in any
increased special assessments. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously.
DERATION OF A REQUE
FOR AN APPOINTEE TO COh1MITTEE
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated this request came from the staff of Coon
Rapids to appoint a person to serve on a committee for purposes of exploring
the possibilities of acquiring an area for snowmobiling, mini-bikes, etc.
away from the impacted areas. Mr. Qureshi stated, it is felt, the background
of this proposal would be to try and have the County develop such an area.
MOTION 6y Councilman Hamernik to appoint Councilman Barnette to serve on
this committee Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
RESDLUTION N0. 106-1978 TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM THE STATE AID FUND TO
IMPROVEMENT BONDS OF 1977 FUND
M�TION by Councilman F�tzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 1�6-1478.
Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
-1978 DIRECTING THE ISSUANCE OF TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENT
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution Plo. 107-1978 Seconded
by Councilman Hamernik. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
RESOLUTION N0. 108-1978 DIRECTING THE SALE AND PURCHASE OF TEMPORARY
IMPROVEMENT BONDS IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAWS DF 1957, CHAPTER 385:
MOTIDN by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution No 108-1978. Seconded
by Councilman Hamernik. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
APPOINTMENT: POLICE OFFICER:
� MOTION 6y Councilman Schneider to concur with the appointment of Thorne S.
Helgesen as a Police Officer at $1,326/month, effective Novem6er 20, 1978
Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Nee declared the motton carried unanimously.
RECEIVING RESIGNATION OF MR. H. F. BERGMAN, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
MOTIQN by Counc�lman Schneider to receive Mr. Bergman's letter of
resignation. Seconded by Councilman Hamernik. Upon a votce vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimous1y
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RECEIVING RESIGNATIDN OF MR. DAVE SABISTINA - ENUIRONMENTAL
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ITY COMMISSIDN.
MOTION by Councilman F�tzpatrick to receive Mr, Sab�stina's letter of
resignation. Seconded by Councilman Schneider, Upon a voice vote, all
vot�ng aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
CLAIMS.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to autnorize payments of Claims No. 249F?.2
through 285891. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. L'pon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
ESTIMATES
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to approve the estimates as submitted.
Miller Dunwidd�e Architects, Inc.
7913 Southtown Center
Minneapolis, MN 55431
Consultat�on, Planning, Preparation of Plans
and Spec�fications for Reception Center
Build�ng, Islands of Peace Project
Period Ending August 31, 1978
Weaver, Talle & Herrick
6279 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
For services rendered as City Attorney for
September, 1478
$ 7,839.40
$ 2,409.20
Seconded by Councilman �.�hneider llpon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Plee declared the motion carried unanimously.
LICENSES;
MOTION by Counc�lman Schneider to approve the licenses as submitted and
as on file in the License Clerk's Off�ce. Seconded by Counc7lman Fitzpatrick.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, P�ayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously.
ADJOUR�d�4ENT.
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to ad�ourn the meeting. Seconded by Councilman
Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the
motion carried unanimously and the Regular Meeting of the Fridley City Counctl
of October 23, 1978, ad�ourned at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitied,
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Carole Haddad
Secy. to the C�ty Counc�l
Approved. November 6 ]978
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Mayor
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