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THE MINUTES OF TNE REGULAR t4EETING OF THE FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL OF JANUARY
22. 1979
The Regular Meeting of the Fridley City Council was called to order at 7:46
p.m. 6y 14ayor Nee.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIFlNCE:
Mayor Nee led the Council and audience in the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
ROLL CALL:
MEM(3[RS PRESENT: Mayor Nee. Councilman Barnetie, Councilman Schneider
� Councilman Fitzpatrick, and Councilwoinan Moses (oath
of office tiaken at this meeting) �
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
REGULAR MEETING, DECEMBFR 78, 1978:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to approve the minutes as presented. Seconded
by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee de-
clared the motion carried unaniinously.
REGULAR MEETING, JANUARY 8, 1979:
Page 3, lst line, correct the name from "Sheridan" to "Council�nan Schneider".
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to approe�e the minutes as corrected. Seconded
by founcilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unan9mously.
PUBLIC HFARING MEETING, JANUARY 75, 7979_
MCTIOP� by Councilman Schneider to approve the minutes as presented. Seconded
by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voiw vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee de-
clared the motion carried unanimously.
ADMINISTRATION OF OATN OF OFFICE TO ELECTED OFfICIAL:
Mr. Herrick, City lSttorney, stated the City received this evening a judgment,
signed by Judge Robert Bakke of the Rnoka District Court, who �aas the presiding
judge that handled the election contest, to determine the winner of the Council
seat in the First Ward. Ne stated the jud9ment is Judge Bakke's determinaticri
as to the recount proceedings.
Mr. Herrick stated that Judge Bakke indicates in the judgment that Cheryl
Moses received 1,713 votes and Ed Hamernik received 7,770.votes. Judge Bakke
concludes that Cheryl Moses is declared the winner of this election and the
City Clerk should issue her a certificate of election.
Mr. Herrick stated it is his opinion that the judgment is in force and in
effect at the time the judge siyned it this afternoon. He stated he believed
the City Clerk should issue the certificate of election to Cheryl Moses and
she should be sworn in as Council representative of Ward I. .
Mr. Brunsell, City Clerk, administered the oath of office to Cheryl Moses.
Ms. Moses stated she was happy to be here and that it was a long and ex-
pensive two and a half months. She stated she was glad this part was over
and hoped it was over for good. �
�'I Ms. Moses thanked the people that helped herwith her campaign and, most of
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all, the citizens of Fridley. She stated she was anxious to serve and hoped
that she would do the citizens well.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
Councilman Schneider requested that the Council appointments to the various
agencies be added under "Old 6usiness".
Councilman Fitzpatrick requested a resolution be added to urge the Governor
to reappoint Marsha Bennett to the Metropolitan Council.
I i MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt the agenda as amended. Seconded by
� Councilman Fitzpatrick.� Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee de-
clared the motion carried unanimously.
OPEN FORUM, VISITORS:
There was no response from the audience under this item of business.
: OLD BUSINESS:
CONSI�ERATION OF SECOND REA�ING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 71 OF THE
CITY COOE DF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to waive the second reading of this ordinance
and adopt it on the second reading and publish. Seconded by Councilman
Barnette.
Ms. Schnabel, Chairman of the Appeals Comnission, questioned some of the fees
that are being proposed. She stated she was particularly interested in the
variance fee, as well as some of the other fees. She questioned how the
fees were determined.
'. Mr. Brunsell, City Clerk, stated a survey or study was made taking into
�� consideration the time spent by the various departments that worked on a
f4 particular license. He stated, in the case of the variance fee, it is pri-
�, t�l marily the planning and engineering staff. He stated their hourly rate was
.� taken and a factor for overhead was added. He stated the variance fee is
probably one of the most difficult ones to strike an average because the
� amount of time does differ from one variance to another. .
� Ms. Schnabel felt the increase from $50 to $80 was too high, when a
variance request is very minimal. She stated she fully understood the amount
�� - of paperwork involved, but felt, in some ways, these fees are being established
to make up the salaries of the employees. She didn't feel a department of
tfie City government should be expected to make up their wages in the fees
charged by this particular department.
Ms. Schnabe7 stated, in the case of the lot split, where the fee would be
increased from $30 to $100, that perhaps the $30 was too low, but felt $100
was too hi9h. �
Mr. Brunsell stated they did not attempt to make the department working on
these particular requests to be self-supporting by the fees. �
Mr. Harris, Chairman of the Planning Cortonission, questioned how the City
arrived at the variance fee schedule, and what the City is chiarging as an
hourly rate. Mr. Harris stated he has difficulty with the amounts, since
the lot split fee would be .�100, and wondered if there was an overloading
of overhead in this fee.
Mr. Harris felt the increased fees for lot splits, variances and vacations
would probably start working a hardship on the residential applicants. �
Mr. Harris stated his point is that the City isn't supposed to be making
money on the permits and fees.
Mayor Nee stated if the City doesn't charge the true cost for these services,
then the general taxpayer is subsidizing it. He stated it is not the intent
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to make enough r,roney on the fees to subsidize something else.
Mr. liarris asked if he could see the documentation for these fees.
Councilinan Barnette stated if t4s. Schnabel and Mr. Harris felt uncomfortable
with these fees, he su9gested tabling the item for twa weeks to 9ive them �
an opportunity to review the documentation for raising the fees.
t40TI0N 6y Councilman [3arnette to Cable this item for two weeks. Seconded
6y Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, t4ayor Nee
declared Che motion carried unanin�ously.
CONSIDERATION OF CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO VkRIOUS AGENCTES:
MAYOR PRO TEM - 1979 REPRESENTATIVE:
MOTIOtJ by Councilman Fitzpatrick to nominate Councilman Schneider for Mayor
Pro Tem for 1979.� Seconded by Councilman Schneider.
There being no other nominations, the following action was taken:
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to cast a white ballot for Councilman Schneider
for Mayor Pro Tem for 7979. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
ANOKA COUPlTY LliW ENFORCEMENT COUNCIL (1 REPRESENTATIVE NNO 1 ALTERNATE):
MDTION by Councilman Barnette to rominate Councilman Schneider as Council
Representative to the Anoka County Law Enforcement Council. Seconded by
Councilman Fitzpatrick.
There 6eing no other nominations, the following action was taken:
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatricl: to cast a white 6allot for Ccuncilman
Schneider as Council Representarive to the Anoka County Law Fnforcement
Council. Seconded by Councilman 6arnette. Upon a wice vote, all voting
aye, Idayor Nee declared the rution carried unanimously. '
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to nominate Councilwoman Moses as an
Alternate� to the Anoka County Law Enforcement Council. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider.
Councilman Schneider stated that Councilman Barnette has also indicated
an interest to serve as an alternate to the Law Enforcement Council.�
Councilman Barnette stated he has some particutar interests in this area
since he is working with students.
6ecause of Councitman Barnette's interes±, Cheryl Moses declined the
nomination.
MDTION by Councilman Schneider to nominate Councilman Barnette as an
Alternate to the Anoka County Law Enforceinent Council. Seconded 6y
Councilman Fitzpatrick. . �
MOTION by Councilnan Fitzpatrick to cast a white ballot for Councilman
Barnette as an Atternate to the Anoka County Law Enforcement Council.
Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
SU6UR6AN RATE�AUTHORITY (7 �-0EM9ER AND 1 ALTERNATE): �
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to nominate Councilwoman Moses as a
Member of the Suburban Rate Authority. Seconded by Councilinan Schneider.
There being no other nominations, the following action was taken:
MOTIDN by Councilman Fitzpatrick to cast a white ballot for Councilwoman
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Moses as a Mem6er of the Suburban Rate Authority. Seconded by Council-
man Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the
motion carried�unanimously.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to nominate�Councilman Barnette to continue
as an Alternate to the Suburban Rate Authority. Seconded by Councilman
Fitzpatrick.
MOTIDN by Councilman .Fitzpatrick to cast a white ballot for Councitman
. Barnette as an Alternate to the Su6urban Rate Authority. Seconded by
�. �� Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
,��' � declared the motion carried unanimously. �
j' NORTH SUQURBAN SEWER SERVICE BOARD (7 REPRESENTATIVE AND 1 ALTERNATE)•
� Councilman Schneider stated this body hasn't met in over two years and
� stated he wasn't interested in continuing to serve.
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Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this 6oard functions only if
there are issues in certain service areas.
MOTI�ON 6y Councilman Fitzpatrick to nominate Councilman Barnette as
Representative to the North Suburban Sewer Service Board. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider.
There being no other nominations, the following action was taken:
MOTION by Councilmart Schneider to cast a white ballot for Councilman
Barnette as Representative to the North Suburban Sewer Service Board.
Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye�,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Councilman Fi�tzpatrick to nominate Councilman Schneider as
an Alternate to the North Suburban Sewer Service Board. Seconded by
Councilman Barnette.
There being no other nominations, the following action was taken:
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to cast a white ballot for Councilman
Schneider as Alternate to the North Suburban Sewer Service Board.
Seconded by Mayor Nee. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
ASSOCIATION OF METROPOLITAN MUNICIPALITIES:
Councilman Fitzpatrick indicated his interest in continuing as Council
representative to the Association of Metropolitan P4unicipalities.
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to nominate Councilman Fitzpatrick as
the voting member to the Association of t4etropolitan Municipalities.
Seconded by Councilman Schneider.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to cast a white ballot for Councilman
�: . Fitzpatrick as the voting member to the Association of Metropolitan
. Municipalities. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
! MOTION by Councilman Schneider to nominate Councilwoman Moses as the
I. non-voting member to the Association of Metropolitan Municipalities.
' � � Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick.
�, M�TION by CounciTman Fitzpatrick to cast a white ballot for Councilwoman
� Moses as the non-voting member to the Association of Metropolitan Munici-
'. palities. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee dectared the motion carried unanimously.
SCHOOL DISTRICT N14 COMMUNITY SCHOOL ADVISORY COUNCIL:
1" I MOTION by Councilman Schneider to nominate Councilman 6arnette as the
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representative to School District H14 Community School Advisory Council.
Seconded by Councilinan Fitzpatrick.
There being no other nominations, the following action �aas taken:
MOTION tiy Councilman Schneider to cast a white 6allot for Councilman
Barnette as representative to School District N'74 Coimwnity School
Advisory Cowicil. Seconded hy Councilman Fitzpatrick. llpon a voice
vote, all voting aye, I•tayor IJee declared the motion carried unaniRausly.
SCHOOL DISTRICT "73 REPRFSENTATIVE:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to nominate Councitman Fitzpatrick as
representative to School �istrict ^13. Second2d by Councilwoman M17oses.
There being no other nominations, the following action was taken:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to cast a white ballot for Councilman
Fitzpatrick as representativz to School Uistrict 513. Seconded by
Councilman 6arnette: Upnn a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
SUBDIVISI
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated a public hearing was held
on this plat and, from these hearings, several items were discussed and
are recommended as part of the plat approval.
Mr.Sobiech outiined the stipulations, as shown on page 26, and stated on
Page 2C of the agenda book, there is an affidavit which must be signed
by potential deveiopers of this property noti,fying them of the deainage
requir�ement.
Councilman Schneider asked if the staff vias satisfied that, if the lots
were Ceveloped separately, the drainage could be handled.
14r. Sobiech felt, although it would be more advantageous to plan the
drainage for the entire area, it could be handled satisfactorily
if the lots were developed separately, since the City does have certain
requirements that must be met.
�40TION by Co�mcilman Fitzpatrick to approve the final plat; preliminary
subdivision P.S. �78-06 for Caba Realty First Addition, generally located
at 83rd and University Avenue, Hiith the following stipulations: �1)
drainage and util.i*.y easements along lot lines to ensure access for
utiliCies, and for use for draina9e purpcses; (2) lot dimensions must
be revised to ensure minimu�n lot areas of 1.5 acres for heavy industrial
property; and (3) an affidavi! informing potential developers that the
storm water run-off rate, after developmen±, inust not be greater than
the rate before development, nwst be filed andrecorded with the plat.
Seconded by Councilman 6arnette. Upun a voice vote, all voting aye>
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
REf.EIYING THE MIYUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF dANUARY 10,
7979:
INNSRRUCK NORTH TOWNHOUSE PIAT 5; P.S. ;i78-07 AND TOWNHOUSE
DEVELOPPIEWT T-�78-07 FOUNTNIN OAKS 6Y �ARREL FARR �EVELOPI�tENT CORP.:
MOTIOid by Councilman Schneider to set the public hearing for February 12,
1979 or as soon as possible. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick.
Councilman Schneider stated he was concerned on this particular develop-
ment that the Council see the record on tihe first four additions. He
�- stated he wished to see what has been promised and what has been done,
� . in the past, re9arding development of recreational facilities.
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Mr. Sobiech> Pu61ic Works Director, stated there was a site provided
for tennis courts, but upon reviewing the site, the question has come
up if this is a good location.for the tennis courts. Mr. Sobiech stated
it was the intent of the Counci7, at the time the site was provided,
that the courts would be for public use. Ne stated, by locating them
behind the�apartment complex, there was concern that they wouldn't be
very public.
Councilman Schneider stated he felt it boils down to the fact that there
is no suitable place provid2d for the tennis courts.
UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE A60VE MOTION, all voted aye, and Mayor
Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
VIKING ENGINEERING FlN� DEVELOPMENT COMPANY; SAV H78-05; 7740
BEECH STREET:
MOTION by Councilman 6arnette to set the public hearin9 for February 72
7979 or as soon as possible. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared�the motion carried
unanimously.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 21, 1978:
A. AIRPORT EXPANSION:
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works �irector, stated the minutes of the Environmental
Quality Commission indicate their concern regarding the status of the
Anoka County Airport. He stated the Commission had previously requested
that the City Attorney be directed to take whatever steps were necessary
to insure that the Anoka County Airport remain at its present status.
Mr. Sobiech stated, based on that particular request, a meeting was held
with r�resentatives of MnDOT, the Metropolitan Airports Commission and
the Netropolitan Council to obtain a better understanding of the proposals
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however, regarding the proposals that have been noted in the Mn�OT Plan
and the Metrcpolitan Council Airports Guide. He stated the Commission is
requesting the Council to correspond with the MPCA to develop certain
procedures to insure that ar.y type of changes to the airport facilities
would require certain�regulations with proper review. He stated the .
- Commission also recommended that correspondence be sent to the Governor
to request that fundirig of the Master Plan be withdrawn. �
� Mr. Sobiech stated, it is his understanding, that with the processing of �
the Master Plan, certain impact statements would have to� be made. He
stated there is a lot of indication that implementation would be going
ahead without the f4aster Plan, but that wasn't the indication the City
received at the meeting with representatives of MnDOT, the MAC and the
- Metropolitan Council.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated, in the opinion of some, a plan has
developed for an intermediate airport �+hich v�e were reatly thinking was
onty a study.
Councilman Schneider stated, from his understanding and notes of the
meeting,�the Master Plan would detail alternatives. He stated the
question arose if one of the alternatives was to do nothing and the answer
came back in the affirmative. He stated some persons have the inpression
that the Master Plan is one of the alternatives for an interinediate
airport. Councilman Schneider stated he�has reservaCions also, but
doesn't know what constitutes the Master Plan.
Mr. Sobiech suggested that staff compile what has been adopted 6y the
Council to date and pass this information on to the Environmental Quality
Commission. He felt the new point which has arisen regarding correspondence
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to the Governor might be contrary to what the Council has previously done.
He stated he 6elieved the Council concurred with the Moundsview resolution
in trying to insure that certain items were included in the Master Plan
process.
Councilman Schneider asked if staff could communicate with the Metro-
politan Airports Comnission to see if alternatives have 6een discussed.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider for staff to contact the Metropolitan
Airports Comniission to determine whether the �4aster Plan includes
alternatives. Seconded by Councilnian fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
B. ZONING CODE:
hA1TI0N by Councilman Schneider to refer this item to the Planning
Co�mnission. Seconded by Cowuilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote,
all votiny aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unaniniously.
C. MOTORIZED P,ECREATIOPIAL VEHICLE USE IN CITY:
Councilman 6arnette stated he received a phone call from Coon Rapids
asking him when it would be a good night to meet regarding nptorized
recreational vehicle use and hasn't heard anything more from them.
Mr. SoGiech stated the Environmental Quality Commission had invited
a mem6er of the Pleoi Brighton Environmental Quality Commission to their
meeting and they have indicated they would be interested in discussin9
this matter. He suggested, therefor�e, that when meetings are held
with Coon Rapids that the New Brighton, Ramsey County area be included
Mr. Sobiech stated it also becomes a policy matter whether the Council
wants to get involved in recreational sites. He stated he believed it
was the intent of the Envirormental Quality Commission�to find sites
outside of the City.
I+iQTION by Councilman Schneider to refer this matter to Councilman
Barnette. SeconGed by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETIN6 Of NOVEFI[3ER 27, 1978:
A. FYSA - CANCELLATION OF LITTLE LEAGUE LEASE:
MOTIOIV hy Councilman Fitzpatrick to concur rrith the recommendation of
the Planning and Parks and Recreation Cormissions and accept the letter
from Glenn Van Hulzen dated November 27, 1978 cancelling the Little
League lease. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
6. FYSA - FEE PROPOSRL FOR 7979:
Dr. Boudreau, Director of Parks and Recreation, stated, in the past, there
has been a participant's fee for baseball, football, soccer or any other
sport run by the FridTey Vouth Sports Association. He stated this fee
was met with some negative feeling because the City was charging a user
fee to use the facilities. He stated, in meeting with the FYSA, they
have cane up with an alternative where they would give the City a flat
amount which is to be put into a capital improvements fund and eliminate
the participant fee.
Dr. 6oudreau stated the Fridley Youth Sports Association felt this �vas
one way they could help in contributing to tlie facilities of the City,
of which they are the prime users. He stated the Parks and Recreation
Cormiission concurred with the fee of $2,500 for the year 1979 which is
$500 over the amount paid in 1978.
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MOTIDN 6y Councilman Fitzpatrick to concur with the Planning and Parks
and Recreation Conmission and accept this proposal for a flat fee of
$2.500 from the FYSA. Seconded 6y Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice �
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
C. LIONS CLUB RE4UEST - RENAMING MOORE LAKE:
�. Dr. Boudreau, �irector of Parks and Recreation, stated it vras brought
!�� to the attention of the Parks and Recreation Cortrcnission that the Lions
� Club has donated a lot of time, energy and money for the betterment of
�� the parks and it was fett the City couid show their appreciation by
�, I renaming a park after the Lions Club. He stated this was discussed by
'� �, the Parks and Recreation Commission and they recommended renaming Naore
��.. Lake Park to Moore Lake Lions Park.
�. Mr. Mike Murphy, representing the Lions Club, stated the Lions Club did de-
� velop some long range plans for the parks and recreational facilities.
��: Ne outlined several improvements they are considering in the parks and
��� stated the Lions Club does want to corrmit their energy, money and time
� into rnaking improvements the residents of Fridley can be proud of.
Councilman Schneider stated the question came up on what criteria the
City would use if they had similar requests come from other organizations.
He asked if the Lions Club would object if the matter was delayed for
two weeks in order that they can discuss this criteria. �
Mr. Murphy stated he would see no problems with delaying action for a
few weeks.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to table this request to the next regular
Council meeting and instruct the administration to have this item on
the agenda for discussion at the Conference Meeting. Seconded by Council- ..
man Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
( MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to receive the minutes of the Planning
�� - Commission meeting of January 10, 1979. Seconded by Councitman Schneider.
�� Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously.
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE CHARTER C051MISSION MEETING OF NOVEf4BER 21,
1978:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to receive the minutes of the Charter
Commission Meeting of November 21, 197B. Seconded by Councilman 6arnette.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION 6y Councilman Fitzpatrick to receive the minutes of the CATV
Commission Public Hearing Meeting of January 9, 7979. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
� MOTION by Cou�cilman Schneider to receive the minutes of the CATV
,. Commission Meeting of January 16, 7979. Seconded 6y Councilman 8arnette.
' Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
. unanimously. �
Mayor Nee stated this item involves the transfer of the cable television
franchise. Ne stated it is spelled out in the franchise ordinance that
a public hearing 6e held and the Council can then act by resolution.
Mayor Nee stated a public hearing was held on January 9, 1979 by�the
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CATV Commission, after adequate notice.
Mr. Ed Y.aspszak, Chairman of the CNTV Commission, stated the Connnission
fee15 they have received all the answers they�were obliged to ask, however,
the answers weren't necessarily to their satisfaction. �
Mr. Kaspszak stated the Commission did vote for approval of the merger
contingent on approval of certain amendments to the franchise ordinance.
He stated the Council can deal with the tiransfer on its oom, independent
of the amendments, or they can put them together.
Mr. Kaspszak stated, he felt, with the Storer merger, there�would be
a marked improvement of services to the corenunity.
Councilman Schneider asked if the Coimnission's position was that the
transfer of the francise should be contingent on Storer accepting the
amendments.
Mr. Kaspszak answered in the affirmative.
Mayor fJee stated the problem 6efore the Council is that they could act
tliis evening on a resolution to approve the transfer; however, if it
is decided not to approve the transfer ur�til they have made ainendments,
this would add about two months to the proceedings.
Mayor Nee stated, in an effort to accomrrodate both the concerns of the
company and concerns of the Commission, he sug9ested there may be some
middle ground whereby the Council would secure either the assurance that
the company would not litigate against the amendments or that the company
concurred with the memo that the City Attorney, Mr. Herrick, provided
which stated that the Council had the posaer unilaterally to amend.
Mr. Ed Carpenter, attorney representing Gen2ral Television, stated they
are trying to get action on th? transfer of the control of General
Television, Inc. and cryed the Council to separate the transfer from
the amendment question. �
Mr. Carpenter explained that General Television, Inc. is a parent company
of General Television of Minnesota which holds the Fridley franchise.
He stated that company will not 6e changing, but what is happening
is that General 7elevision, Irc. will be merging into a subsidiary of
Storer Broadcasting Company and there are over 400 shareholders of
General Television who will receive cash or stock from Storer.
Mr. Carpenter explained this rierger involves transfer of control of General
Television of P7innesota and transfer of controt of two East coast su6-
sidiaries. Mr. Carpenter stated they have heen required to obtain
FCC approval and the shamholders will meet on Februaiy 15, 1979 to
approve or disapprove this transaction.
Mr. Carpenter stated he is trying to separate the transfer of the franchise
from the amendinents and stated the Council has an opinion that the
franchise oi-dinance can be amended unilaterally and that they would
have the same rights after the ownership has chan9ed. He fett the
question on the amendments is much more complex and would take additional
study.
Councilman Schneider asked if Mr. Carpenter concurred with �Ar. Herrick's
opinion. � �
Mr. Carpenter stated it seemed the ordinance covers this and is very
clear. If you take the ordinance literally, it can be unilaterally
amended.
Mr. Herrick,.City Attorney, stated the amendment would have to be
reasonable, however, within Che framework of the ordinance, but it
clearly states it can be amended. He stated it was accepted by 6eneral
Television in its present form and would be accepted by Storer in its
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'�. Mr. Herrick stated the Council was attempting to Sind a middle ground
tiy asking the proposed o�mers to either accept the provisions that the � ''
��. ordinance could be amended by the Council or to make a statement to
� the effect that they woutdn't object to the nature of the proposed amend- '��
. ments. He stated the statement they received from Northern Cablevision '
. skirts these concerns, as it doesn't really forthrightly say "yes"
��, to either of these requests. � � '�.
I Mr. Herrick felt another alternative would be to ask the person who
. drafted the letter for a more positive statement and have that before
. the Council at their first meeting in February. He felt, if that statement
'. ' was less ambiguous than the one the City has now, action could be taken �
; � at that time.
Councilman Schneider felt a letter from Storer saying they agree with
the amendments or agree with D1r. Herrick's opinion regarding unilateral
changing of the franchise would solve the problem.
Mr. Ed Kaspszak stated the Canmission feels that the franchise, as it
exists today, is but an embryo and within 70 years you will see things
that were unheard of this evening. He stated a company like Storer
will get involved not only in the programming that we have today, but,
for example, telephone bankin9, retail catalog orders, educational
systems of all kinds, market research, etc. He stated the Commission
wanted the amendments, as.part of the merger, as they felt it would
be easier to handle these at this time rather than when the merger is
up for renewal.
Mr. Kaspszak stated these amendments have been discussed over a period
of years at�many meetings and the Commission knows what it �aants to do
and feels it has the concensus of the cnmm��o;r�. �
� Mr. Kaspszak stated Storer was warned back in November that this process
��.. could take two or three months or even longer. He felt Storer thought
'�.. that what was going to 6e resolved was the merger and there wouldn't
, �' be any amendment�process. He stated the Commission doesn't feel this way.
��. Ne thought there might be some damage done internally ���ith the stock-
'�� holders, but felt it was very hard to intermin9le the interests of
Fridley with the stockholders. Mr. Kaspszak stated he was sensitive
.. to the.problem, but felt his responsibility is to the City.
Mr. Doug Nedin, legal counsel for the CATV Commission, stated Mr.
Erickson (legal counset for Storer) noted at the January 9, 7979 meeting
that the ordinance could be amended and felt this would comply with
Councilman Schneider's request.
Councilman Fitzpatrick pointed out, if what Mr. Hedin stated was true,
wfly the company was reluctant to reflect this in their letter to support
their position more strongly. �
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to receive the letter from Northern
Cablevision dated danuary 19, 1979. Seconded by Councilman Schneider.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously. �
Mr. Jim Erickson, legal counsel representing Storer, stated the Council
has 6efore them a recemnendation to approve the merger contingent on
amendments. He stated if there is any question on what the company's
position is on the right of the City to amend the franchise, they agree
with Mr. lierrick's interpretation that the City has the right to alter
the terms to make any reasonable changes.
Mr. Erickson stated he made this point to the Cominission that they felt
it would be in the best interests of Storer and best interest of the City
to withhold action on the amendments until such time as Storer Broadcasting�
operates this system. He felt a number�of concerns of the City would
be eliminated so felt it doesn't make sense to spend a�great deal of
time arguing over things that six months from now will not be an issue.
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Mr. Erickson stated some of the amendments may not be necessary and some
amendments that aren't being recom;aended now may arise. He stated
there were some internal inconsistencies in the last minutes that were
adopted, but d�idn't see anything the company can't live �iith.
Mr. Erickson requested the Council to approve the transfer this evening.
He pointed out that the transfer reso1ution, to be effective, has to
6e clean unto itself and that the transfer not be contingent on the Council
passing any amendments.
Councilman Schneider stated to Mr. Erickson that on January 9, he took
the position that he would recommend to Storer. that they not buy the
franchise, if the 59; fee was attached. Councilman Schneider asked if
he is now saying that he is mconunending that it is an acceptable franchise
amendment that they could live with. .
Mr. Erickson stated he saw nothing in the concept of those amendments
that, if taken up after six inonths of Storer's operations, they couldn't
live with. If they are taken up now, his coirunents remain the same.
Councilman Schneider asked, if the Council approved the transfer and
then proceeded with these amendments into the franchise, would they then
consider them unreasonable and challenge Mr. Herrick's opinion.
Mr. Erickson stated he would have one view if they o-�ere adopted now,
hoo-�ever, six�months later they �vould take a different position. Mr.
Erickson felt, if the Council approves the merger this evening, it
should 5e irrelevant whether the am?ndrroents come up immediately or to �
wait two or three rtronths to give Storer the six months they asked fior.
Councilman Schneider felt this was inconsistent, as�they agree with Mr.
Herrick's ruling that the City can unilaterally change the francise,
and yet they are saying these amer�dments six months from no�w are reason-
able, but these amendments two months from now might be construed as
unreasonable. ,
Mr. Erickson stated the reasonableness is not the issue, but the timing
is.
Mr. Herri�ck stated to Mr. EricY.son that he has made certain statements
as to position and asked if he was authorized to make these on behalf
of his client so the City wouidn't get into a position later where
officials of Storer might say that Mr. Erickson said things without
their explicit authority.
Mr. Erickson stated, in his experience with Storer, they trust his legal
opinion and doesn't think they are that kind of a company.
Mr. Herrick asked Mr. Erickson if the Council tabled this matter to the
first meeting in February so that there could be additional discussion
between the attorneys, if this would be a major problem.
Mr. Erickson stated the stockholders meeting is for February 15, but
if the Council could take action the first meeting in February, felt
it wouldn't jeopardize the transaction.
Senator Schaaf stated he has some understanding of the background of
cable television�in Fridley so he has more than a normal interest.
Ne stated Storer�is coming to our community in different circumstances
than the current operator. He stated we�can clearly see the operator
wants this to be a success and nezds to operate a number of systems
to be a successful financial adventure. He stated he believes Storer
has the ability and background to make this good and thinks if the City
gives them a hair of good faith and approves the merger and transfer,
Storer will come to Fridley and do a good job.
Councilman Schneider stated it seems the Council is spending an inordinate
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��, amount of time when one simple letter would solve the problem.
Senator Schaaf stated Storer wants the opportunity to really do it right
and show the Council some hard evidence of what is happening. He stated
there is nothing wror,g to look at it from their point�of view.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to table this item to the meeting of
Fetiruary 5, 1974. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
'� � Councilman Fitzpatrick stated the Council has heard Councilman Schneider
; � state over and over that the.Council wants to see a letter, like the
� one received into the record, that states what perhaps Mr. Erickson has
J stated this evening, and what is in the minutes of the CATV meeting.
�. Mr. Erickson stated his client gets impatient with lao-iyers and questioned
�� why they didn't transfer the franchise. hle stated his client asked
' what the Council wanted and for the City Attorney to write this out and
� � Mr. Daniels will sign it. Mr. Erickson stated it seems like they are
� always the ones that must have the faith.
Mayor Nee stated, since he has a motion to ta61e which has been acted on;
he would poll the Council as to their wishes.
Mr. Herrick stated, prior to the motion to table, he was going to say
that he would withdraw his suggestion to table because he had discussion
with Mr. Doug Hedin and on the question he wished to discuss with him,
he had received an anstaer to his satisfaction.
Mayor Nee stated some questions are raised in his mind about separating
the transfer of the franchise and the amendments because the Commission
was very explicit.
� Councilman Barnette stated he has no qualms about signing the transfer,
�, � except he has a lot of respect for the CATU Commission and would, there-
�, ! fore, be leary about voting on anything this evening if the conditions
'. . weren't met.
� Councilman Schneider stated he is not intending to say Storer is dis-
� reputable, but would feel mom comfortable in having whct Mr. Erickson
'� said on record, in a letter saying they agree with the City Attorney's
; opinion. �
Councilwoman �4oses stated she agrees with Councilmen Barnette and �
Schneider as to what the Commission has recommended, however, sees this
as a matter six months down the road, if they need the amendments at
that time, they could get them. She stated getting it in writing doesn't
seem to be the problem anymore.
Councilman Fitzpatrick felt the Council has the recommendation of the
CATV Commission and if the City Attorney feels what is on the record
serves the purpose, the Council will very likely proceed with the merger.
He stated he would tike to have Storer state iheir position in the form
of a letter ard the Council wou1G 6e receptive of that on February 5.
Mr. Larry Chevalier, a member of the CATV Commission, stated his only
comment is that several of the Commission members�are new on the Commission
and felt they are taking a fairly fresh lonk at the matter. He stated
his feelings are in the memo and expressed to Chairman Kaspszak. Mayor
Nee suggested a recess to enable the attorneys to discuss this further.
RECESS:
Recess called by Mayor Nee at 10:08 p.m.
� RECONYENED:
i The meeting was reconvened at 10:25 p.m. by Mayor Nee. All Council
,� members were present.
� MOTION by Councilman Schneider to reconsider the motion to table the
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franchise transfer. Seconded 6y Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice
vote, all.voting aye, f-0ayor Mee declared the niotion carried unanimously.
REC@IVING LETiER DATED JANUFRY 22, 1979 FkOP1 NDRTHERN CF6LEVISION AND
SIGIlEU 6Y MR.� JAi1-S fh1f1IELSt
MOTIO�! 6y Councilman Schneider to mceive the letter froin Mr. Daniels
of Northern Cabievision dated .lanuary 22, 1�979. Seconded by Council-
woman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all votiny aye, Mayor Nec declared
the motion carried unanir.�ously.
Mr. Kaspszak stated he, Larry Chevalier, �oug Hedin, Virgil Herrick and.
representatives of Storer came up with word�ing in Lhe letter, which the
Council just received, �•ihich they feel was what the Ccmmission was seeking
He felt this letter is sTating the commitments the company should make
so that the transfer or merger can be done in an orderly process.
Mr. Kaspszak asked if the suggested amendments should be part of the
letter.
Mr. Herrick stated that they should be included.
NG TNE OIJNERSHIP FlND COPITROL OF THE
MOTIO`J by Councilwoman P7oses to adopt Resolution No. 12-1979 in reliance
on the letter dated January 22, 1979 from the company. Seconded by
Councilnan Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voCing aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unaninrously.
DISCUSSION REuARDING TOWING COGlTfL1CT:
Mr. Jim Hill, Public Safety Director, staked data �;as submitted reoarding
tovring rates in the City and surromiding areas. He stated that Shorty's
Towing has raised their rates above what e�as initially ne9otiated and
authorized in their 7974 contrect.
Mr. Hill felt, because of the rate increases, this information should
be brought to the Council. He stated he discussed this matter with the
City Attorney and the City has tvio options. One option woulA be to
authorize the City adininistration to go through the bidding process for
a towing contract and the other option would be to accept Shorty's
new rates or perhaps negotiate sonething and continue on with the existing
contract.
Councilwoman Moses asked if they are charged an hourly rate from the
time the person leaves his business.
Mr. Hill stated the only hourly rate they are looking at is the accident
rate and pointed out these are private tows.
Mr. Hilt stated, it is his opinion, that bidding wouldn't be of any
significant value relative to cost to the City; however, it would open
up the towing contract to others that miyht be interested.
Councilnan [3arnette asked, if the Council accepted the new rates, how
long woutd they be in effect.
A representative of Shorty's stated the rates oiere raised about four
months ago and that was the first time in five years. He pointed out
that, with inflation, his costs for equipment and insurance have risen
greatly.
MDTIDN by Councilman 6arnette to accept the rate increases and continue
the existing contract with Shorty's Towing with the following amendments:
(1) Under accidents, the charge not to exceed $25 per hour; (2) Under
outside storage, no charge is made if vehicle is picked up riithin the
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first 12 hours; (3) on cancelled tows, there will be "no charge"; and
(4j Under the "hauling and recycling center", this section to be eliminated.
Seconded 6y Council�nan Schneider. Upon a voice vote, ail voting aye, Mayor
Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
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RECEIV[MG BIDS AND AWARDING COhlTRACT FOR f4ISCELLANEO�S COPlCRETE CUR6 AW� GUTTER
ANU DRNEW�Y APPROF1CIi RECONSiRUCTION (�6ID OPEFlING dAPIUARY 15, 1975 :
�4r. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated these 6ids were received for
the removal and replacement of miscellaneous concrete cur5 and gutter and
drive��iay openings. He stated the low bidder was Halverson Construction
and it is recommended they be awarded the contract.
Councilman Schneider asked a6out the bid firom Victor Carlson and Son, Inc.
Mr. Sobiech stated they felt this company was more into sidewalk construction
than curb and gutter replacement. -
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to receive the following bids for miscellaneous
concrete curb and gutter and driveway approach reconstruction:
COMPFlNY
Arcon Construction
Mora
Minnesota � 55057
Harstad Company
7701 Highway 65 N.E.
fridley, MN 55432 �
Hatverson Construction
4227 -.765th Avenue N.E.
Wyoming, MN 55092
Victor Carlson & Son, Inc
2246 Edgewood Ave. So.
Minneapolis, MN 55426
Schumann Bros., Inc.
P. 0. Box 8599
White Bear Lake, MN 55170
6ID PROPOSpLS
No Bid
No Bid
Bid Bond: 5% - Great American Insurance
Proposal "A": $75.00
Alternate Proposal "!4": $15J5
Proposal "B": y17.00
Alternate Proposal "6": E17.50
*Total Cost Curbing: $U.50 = .�45,500,00
Handicap Unit Price: $2II5.00 = $71,970.D0•
**Total Construction Cost: 557,470.00
6id 6ond: 5� - St. Paul Fire & Marine
Proposal "A": $28.50 �
Alternate Proposal "A": $32.00
Proposal "B": $38.50
Alternate Proposal "B": $42.OD
*Total Cost Curtring: 538.5D = $100,100.00
Handicap Unit Price: "y792.00 = $33,264.00
**Total Construction Cost: 5733,364.00
Bid Bond: 5w - United Fidelity
Proposal "A": $14.50
� Alternate Proposal "A": 516.00
ProPosal "B": �17.90
Alternate Proposal "B": $19�.00
*7ota1 Cost Curbing: $19.OD = 549,400.00
Handicap Unit Price: $320.00 = �13,440.OD
**Total Construction Cost: 362,840.00
*Highest Unit Price X 2,600 Linear Feet (estimated quantity)
**Total Construction Cost is Total Cost Curbing pl.us Handicap (Handicap
Unit Price X 42)
Secmided 6y Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carrSed unanimously. �
� MOTION by Councilman Schneider to award the contract for miscellaneous
. concrete curb and. gutter and driveway approach reconstruction to Haiverson
, � Construction. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, hlayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
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NING TO INSTAIIATION OF
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, presented alternative funding proposals
for the installation of a sigral at TH 47 and 69th Avenue.
Councilman Schneider stated he recognizes the need for the signal, but
wondemd if a precedent m�ould be set.
Mr. Qureshi, City �4anager, stated the City has contributed, in the past,
up to SOl for the�cost of signa15. �
Councilman 6arnette stated the people he had contacted in his area
unanimously agreed there should be a si9nal at this intersection, however,
as far as being assessed, the residents felt the State and City shoald pay
the cost. He stated he did ta14: with the residents regarding the assessment
over a ten year pericd and with, one or two exceptions, most felt the
figure of $20 per year, plus interest, was reasonable.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated it is hoped that only 1/4 of the cost 'i
would have to be raised by special assessment with 3/4 paid for by the �I,
City and County. He felt, however, if there is a strong objection, the .. '
idea shouldn't be proposed. I
Councilinan Barnette felt there wouldn't be a strong objection, if the �...
assessment was reasonable. '�.
Mr. Qureshi pointed out, in recent times, the City hasn't contributed to
signals because the majority of the cost was funded by other governmental
agencies. He felt the County would contribute some money for the cost of
this signal.
Councilman FitzpatricY, felt the signal shovld serve a general service
to justify the City's participation.
Councilwoman Moses felt it e;as a good idea to approath the people, 6ut
questioned if the City has the ironey to spend for the signal.
Mr. Qureshi stated the Council would, in a way, be contribu*ing some of
its future funds. He stated if the signal is provided and the City
participates, about an additiona7 $30,000 would have to be appropriated
next year.
Mr. Qureshi felt the only precedent involved is that the City has never
assessed neighborboods for this iinprovement. He felt the staff could�
prepare an outline listing the reasons why the City cannot get a signal
at this intersection and find out if there is support for this approach
as an alternative for having the signal installed.
It was generally agreed by the Council that probably the funding under
Item t.'5 would be the inost desirable with the City contributing 507, the
County contributing 25N and the remaining Z5� to be assessed, if they were
to proceed with the signalization.
MOTION by Councilnan Barnette to cor�cur with the recomniendation and adopt
Item 5 as an operating plan for a signal at TH 47 and 69th Avenue..
Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously. �
RESOLUTION fJO. 13-7979 REQUESTIPlG ANOKA COUNTY COhtMI5SI0NERS TO SHARE
IN SIGPlALILATION IhiPROVEMENT COSTS: —
MOTION by Councilman fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 13-7979.
Seconded by Councilinan Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
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RESOLUTIUN N0. 74-7979 TO AUGPT THE FINE SCHEDULE:
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated the pr�ocedure that was adopted a-iginally
was that the Council passed a resolution in u�hich they made eecommendations
to the judges regardin9 the fines. He stateA the judges then, if they
concurreA, adopted the fine schedule. He stated the pimpose of the fine
schedule is that if, in certain cases, a person wishes to plead,guilty
and pay the fine, they don't have to appear in court. He stated this fine
schedule is given to the Clerk so they will know what the an��ount of the
fine will be.
M1layor Nee felt it should probably be a proposed fine schedule.
. Mr. Herrick believed, in the past, the Council has adopted the fine schedule,
� by resolution, and then forwarded it to the Court and asked, if they find it
' acceptable, to impieinent it by court rules.
'.. MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 74-19J9. Seconded
��, by Councilman 6arnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, hlayor Nee
; declared the motion carried unanimously.
���, RESOLUTIOPo N0. 75-1979 URGING GOVFRNOR �IE TO REAFPOINT �4ARCIA BENNETT TO
'�. REPRESENT FRIDLEY'S DISTRICT ON TNE NETROPOLITAN COUNCIL:
. MDTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 15-1979. Seconded
by Councilwoinan Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, P1ayor Nee
�. declared the motion carried unaniinousty. .
Councilman Fitzpatrick also requested that copies of this resolution be
sent to the legislative delegates from our legislative district.
CO�dSIDERATI0IV OF RESIGNATIOY OF D.4VID THIELE, HU."�IAN RESOURCES COMP1ISSIOtC:
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to receive the resignation of �avid Thiele
from the Numan Resourees Commission. Seconded by Councilrnan Schneidzr.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, f4ayor tJee declzred the motion carried
unanimously.
ESTIMATES:
MDTIOfI by Councilman Barnette to approve the estimated�as subinitted.
Weaver, Talle & Herrick
6279 UniversiYy Flvenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
For Services Rendered as City Attorney
For Oecember, 1978 $2,809.90
Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
� LICENSES:
� M0T70h by Councilman Fitzpatrick to approve the�licenses as submitted and
� as on file in the License Clerk'S Office. Seconded 6y Councilman Schneider.
' Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously.
, CLAIMS:
. MOTION 6y Councilman Fitzpatrick to authorize payment of Claims fJo. 320507
; through 018938. Seconded by Councilman [3arnette. Upon a voice vote, all
��.. voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
� OPENINGS ON CHARTER COMPIISSION: �
'� Mayor Nee stated he received a call from Chief Judge, Connie Forsberg, who
. , indicated there were four openin9s on the Charter CoRenission. He stated
'. she would like recommendations from the Council and stated three persons
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FRIDLEY CiTY COUNC i L
REGULAR MEETING — �ANUARY ZZ, 1979 — 7;30 P� M�
�'�EMO T0: DE°AR7MENT NEADS
FOLLOWING ARE THE "ACTIQNS ��EEDED��� PLEASE HAVE YOUR ANSWERS
BACK IN THE CITY �ANAGER`S OFFICE BY THE �'IEDNESDAY BEFORE 7HE
NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING� THANK YOU. �.��ucc�.a,��-��, ��/'��
RE6ULAR MEETING, DECEMBER l�, 1978
Approved
REGULAR MEETING, ,JANUARY 8, 1979
Approved with correction
PUBLIC fiEARING OF �ANUARY 15, 1979
Approved
ACTION TAKEN: Minutes have been corrected and all filed for future reference
ADP�IfdISTRATION OF OATH OF OFFICE TO ELECTED OFFICIAL:
�iARD I� CHERYL MOSCS
Sworn in
ADOPTION OF AGEPJDA;
Add 2 Items:.
Council Committee Appointments
Resolution Urging Mrs. Bennett's Reappointment to Metro Council
OPE�! FORUP9, VISITORS:
( CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS NOT ON AGENDq — IS �`�INUTES)
No Response
- � � OLD BUSIPIESS:
� FINANCE
� PUBLIC WORKS
PUBLIC WORKS
CONSIDERATION OF SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO
AMEND CHAPTER 11 OF THE CITY CODE OF THE CITY OF
FRIDLEY. � � , � , � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � . � � � 1 - 1 A
Item tabled for two weeks
ACTION PJEEDED: Put item back on the Agenda of February 5, 1979
CITY COUNCIL COfAMITTEE APPOINTMENTS
All Council appointments were made
fVEtJ BUSI��ESS:
CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF FINAL PLAT; PRELIMINARY
$UBDIVISION P,S. #78-06, �ABA REALTY FIRST ADDITION,
BY RAY �'�ORMSBECKER� �ENERALLY LOCATED AT �3RD-AND Z_ 2 �
UNIVERSITY AVENUE� � � � � � � � � � ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Appraved with stipulations
�CTION NEEDED: Inform applicant of Council action
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
�'�EETING OF �ANUARY l�, 1979� � � � � � � � � � � � ' ` ' 3 - 3 �°
1. Innsbruck North Townhouse Plat 5; P.S. #78-07 and �
Townhouse Development T-#78-01 Fountain Oaks by 3_ 3H
Darrel Farr Development Corp. . . . . . . . . . . .
Planning Comm. Recommendation: Approve contingent & 3Q
upon approval by the Townhouse Association. �
Council Action Required: Set public hearing
Set public hearing for February 12, 1979> or as soon as possiGle
;TION NEEDED: Make arrangements for puhlic hearing for as soon as po�sible
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2. Viking Engineering and Development Company;
SAV �78-05; 7740 Beech Street. . . . . . . . . . . . 3H - 3J
Planning Comm. Recommendation: Approve with & 3R
stipulation
Council Action Required: Set pu6lic hearin9
Set public hearing for February 12, 1979, or as soon as possible
PUBLIC WORKS ACTION NEEDED: Make arrangements fbr public hearing for as soon as possible
= I NEi� BUSINESS iCONTINUED)
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES �CONTINUED)
3. Environmental Quality Commission Minutes of
November 21, 1978
A. Airport Expansion . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3T - 3AA
EQC Recommendation: Chair communicate with M.P.C.A.
regarding permit and regulatory process
Planninq Comm. RecorrQnendation: Motion out of order
and should be directed to City Council '
Council Action Required: Consideration of sendin9
communication
EQC Recommendation: Correspond with Governor to
request funding of master plan be withdrawn
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommendation
Staff to contact MAC to see if master plan includes alternatives
ACTION NEEDED: Contact MAC for information requested by City Council
B. Zoning Code . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • . . . 3AA - 3CC
EQC REcommendaiion: Interim development control
capability and noise control be incorporated into
zoning code
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommenda-
tion and keep in mind when zoning code presented to
Council �
Ref.er to Planning Commission
ACTION P�EEDED: Refer item to Planning Commission as requested by Council
C. Motorized Recreational Vehicle Use in City. ... 3DD
EQC Recommendation: That they review possible sites
Council Action Required: Consideration of suggestion
Refer to Councilman Barnette
KS ACTION NEEDED: Refer information on to Councilman Barnette
� , I P1E�d BUSINESS iCONTINUED)
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES �CONTINUED)
4, Parks and Recreation CortQnission Meeting of
November 27> 1978
A. FYSA - Cancellation of Little League Lease. ...
3LL & 300
PRC Recommendation: Concur with letter daied
November 27, 1978 from Glenn Van Nulzen
Planninq Comm Recommendation: Concur
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommendation
Concurred with Commission and approved
ACTION NEEDED: Inform the Parks & Recreation Cortunission that Council has
concurred with termination of lease and cancel lease as recommended.
B. FYSA - Fee Proposal for 1979. . . . . . . . . 3MM & 3PP
PRC Recommendation: Concur with recommendations
of FYSA
Planninq Comm Recommendation: Concur ,
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommendation
Concurred with Commission
KS DEPT. ACTION NEEDED: Inform the FYSA and Parks & Recreation Commission of Council
concurrence and proceed as authorized.
PT
C. Lions Club Request - Renaming Moore Lake. .., 3fdP1 & 3NN
PRC'Recommendation: Moore Lake Park be renamed �'QQ 8 3RR
Moore Lake Lions Park
Planning Comm Recommendation: Concur
�ouncil Action Required: Consideration of recommendation �
Tabled to next regular meeting and also on agenda for conference meeting
ACTION NEEDED: Put item on agendas of conference meetin9 and next regular
Council Meeting
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE CHARTER COMMISSION 4- 4 H
��EETI NG OF ��OVEMBER 21; 1973 � � � � � � � � � � � � �t ' '
Minutes received
ACTION TAKEN: Minutes have been filed for future reference
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RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE CATV COMMISSION PUBLIC
fiEARING MEETING OF �ANUARY g, 1979� , � � � � � � � � � � 5 - 5 M
Franchise Transfer
CATV Commission Recononendation: Approve with stipulations
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommendation .
Minutes received
TION TAKEN: Minutes have been filed for future reference •
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE CATV COMMISSION MEETING
oF �ANUARY 16, 1979, , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
CATV Ordinance Amendments
CAN Commission Recommendation: Approve
Council Action Required: Set public hearing
Minutes received. Letter to Mayor Nee from James
Cablevision, Inc. received
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Resolution No. 12-1979 adopted--Transferring the Ownership and Control
of the Frid7ey Cable Communications System and Franchise to Storer
Cable TV of Delaware, Inc.
ACTION NEEDED: Send certified copy of Resolution along with letter (for City
Manager's signature) MN Cable Communications_Board and other appropriate parties.
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DISCUSSION REGARDING TOWIN6 CONTRACT� � � � � � � �
Council approved rate increases and directed the
continuation of the contract with Shorty's Towing with
t' han es in the contract
cer ain c g
.�ACTION NEEDED: Make changes by amendment to the Contract and have executed
and forwarded to appropriate parties
RECEIVING BIDS AND AWARDING CONTRACT FOR h�1SCELLAN- �
EOUS CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER AND DRIVEWAY APPROACH
RECONSTRUCTION ��ID �PENING �AN� 15, 1979), , � , � � � � g - 8.A
Received bids and awarded contract to HaTvorson Contruction Company
PUBLIC WORKS ACTION NEEDED: Inform bidders of award
° I I r�EY� BUSI��ESS �CONTINUED)
DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO INSTALLATION OF SIGNAL
ON TH 47 aND 69TH AVENUE AND CONSIDERATION OF
RESOLUTION REQUESTING ANaKA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO
SHARE IN SIGNALIZATION IMPROVEMEfdT �OSTS� �� .��.�., 9- 9 E
Resolution No. 13-1979 adopted '
Adopted Alternative No. 5 as operating plan
WORKS ACTION NEEDED: Forward resolution to Anoka County Commissioners�
CONSIDERATION OF A PESO WTION TO ADOPT THE FINE
SCHEDULE, � � � � , � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �IO - IO C
Resolution No. 14-1979 adopted
ITY MANAGER ACTION NEEDED: Inform all affected parties and request that the County
Court issue an order promulgating the same.
RESOLUTION N0. 15-1979 URGING GOVERNOR QUIE TO REAPP�INT MARSHA BENPJETT
TO REPRESENT OUR DISTRICT ON 1HE METRPOLITAN COUNCIL
Resolution adopted
ACTION NEEDED: Forward certified copy of resolution to 6overnor, Legislators,
Council Chairinan and M rsha Bennett
�ONSIDERATION OF �ESIGNATION OF DAVID THIELE,
NUMAN •RESOURCES COMMISSION� � � , � . � � � � � � � � � � I.1
Resignation received
ACTION NEEDED: Put appointment on list for new appointee to commission
in April.
ESTIMATES� � � � � � � � � � � � � . � � . � � � . � � � IZ - IZ A
Approved
INANCE ACTION NEEDED: Pay estimates '
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Approved
INANCE ACTION NEEDED: Issue licenses
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Approved
NANCE ACTION NEEDED: Pay claims '
COUNCIL TO SU[3MIT NAMES OF SUGGESTED PERSON SO SERVE ON CHARTER COMMISSION AT
NEXT P1EETING. COUNCIL WAS INFORMED OF SISTER CITY MEETING IdITH MCDTRONICS ON
ADJOUR(d: 11:25 P.M. 2/6/79
fRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING
PLEASE SIGN NAME ADDRE55 AND ITEM NUMBER INTERESTED IN
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DATE: January 22, 1979
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FRfDLEY C1TY C011NCIL
RE6ULAR MEETING - �ANUARY 22, 1979 — 7;30 P� M,
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIA�4CE:
APPROVAL OF f�INUTES:
REGULAR MEETING, DECEPIBER l�, 1978
REGULAR MEETING, �ANUARY 8, 1979
PUBLIC HEARING OF �ANUARY 15, 1979
ADP9IfaISTRATION OF OATH OF OFFICE TO ELECTED OFFICIAL:
YIARD I, CHERYL P�OSES
ADOPTION OF AGEPJDA:
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� CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS NOT ON AGENDA - 15 MINUTES)
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CONSIDERATION OF SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO
AMEND CHAPTER 11 OF THE CITY CODE �F THE CITY OF
FRIDLEY. � � � � � � � . . � � � � � � � . � � . . � � � � 1 - 1 A
(VEW BUSIPdESS:
CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF FINAL PLAT; PRELIMINARY
$UBDIVISION p.S,. #78-06, �ABA REALTY FIRST ADDITION,
BY RAY �'�QRMSBECKER, GENERALLY LOCATED AT H3RIT AND
UNIVERSITY AVENUE� � � � . � � � � , , . � � � � � �
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING OF �ANUARY 1�, 1979, � � � � . � � � � �
1. Innsbruck North Townhouse Plat 5; P.S. #78-07 and
Townhouse Development T-#78-01 Fountain Oaks by
Darrel Farr Development Corp. . . . . . . . . . .
Planning Cortan. Recommendation: Approve contingent
upon approval by the Townhouse Association.
Council Action Required: Set public hearing
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2. Viking Engineering and Development Company;
SAV #78-05; 7740 Beech Street. . . . . . . . . . 3H - 3J
Planning Comm. Recommendation: Approve with & 3R
stipulation
Council Action Required: Set public hearing
NEW BUSINESS (CoNraNUEn)
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES iCONTINUED)
3. Environmental Quality Cortmission Minutes of
November 21, 1978
A. Airport Expansion. . . . . . . . . . . . 3T - 3AA
EQC Recorrenendation: Chair communicate with M.P.C.A.
regarding permit and regulatory process
Planning Comm. Recormiendation: Motion out of order
and should be directed to City Council •
Council Action Required: Consideration of sending
communication
EQC Recorrunendation: Correspond with 6overnor to
request funding of master plan be withdrawn
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommendation
B. Zoning Code. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3AA - 3CC
EQC REcommendation: Interim development control •
capability and noise control be incorporated into
zoning code
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommenda-
tion and keep in mind when zoning code presented to
Council .
C. Motorized Recreational Vetiicle Use in City. ... 3DD
EQC Recommendation: That they review possi6le sites
Council Action Required: Consideration of suggestion
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES �CONTINUED)
4. Parks and Recreation Corrmission Meeting of
November 27, 1978
A. FYSA - Cancellation of Little League Lease. ... 3LL & 300
PRC Recommendation: Concur with letter dated
November 27, 1978 from Glenn Van Hulzen
Planning Corrcn. Recommendationi Concur �
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommendation .
B. FYSA - Fee Proposal for 1979. ... .... 3MM & 3PP
PRC Recommendation: Concur with recommendations
of FYSA
Planning Cortm. Recommendation: Concur �
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommendation
C. Lions C7ub Request - Renaming Moore Lake. .., 3MM & 3NN
PRC' Recommendation: Moore Lake Park be renamed � 3QQ & 3RR
Moore Lake Lions Park
Planning Comm. Recommendation: Concur
Council Action Required: Consideration of recomnendation
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P�EETING OF P�OVEMBER 21, 1978, , , , ; , , , , , , , , , , 4 - 4 H
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RECEIVING THE �INUTES OF THE CATV COMMISSION PUBLIC
fiEARING MEETING OF �ANUARY 9, 1979� � , � , . , , , , , � 5 - 5 M
Franchise Transfer
CATV Commission Recorrenendation: Approve with stipulations
Council Action Required: Consideration of recommendation
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RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE CATV COMMISSION MEETING
OF .IANUARY IE, 1979, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , G - 6 I
CATU Ordinance Amendments
CAN Commission Recommendation: Approve
Council Action Required: Set public hearing
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DISCUSSION iEGARDING TOWING CON7RACT� � , , , , , , , , , �
PECEIVIN6 BIDS AND AWARDING CONTRACT FOR MISCELLAN— •
EOUS CONCRETE CURB AND 6UTTER AND DRIVEWAY APPROACH �
RECONSTRUCTION ��ID �PENING �AN� 15, 1979),�. , , , , , , $ ' 8 p
tJE+J BUSINESS (CONTINUED)
DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO INSTALLATION OF SIGNAL
ON TH 4� AND 69TH AVENUE AND CONSIDERATION OF
RESOLUTION REQUESTIN6 ANOKA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO
$HARE IN $IGNALIZATION IMPROVEMENT �OSTS, �, . , , , , , , 9 - 9 E
ICONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE FINE
SCHEDULE� , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,IO - IO C
CONSIDERATION OF•RESIGNATION OF DAVID THIELE,
HUMAN •RESOURCES COMMISSION, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ],l
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DECEMBER 18, 1978
The Regular Meeting of the Fridley City Council was.called to order at 7:32
p.m. by Mayor Nee. �
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Mayor Nee led the Council and audience in the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT:� Cuuncilman Fitzpatrick, Councilman Namernik, Mayor
� Nee, Counciiman Schneider and Councilman Barnette
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
APPROVAL Of MINUTES:
REGULAR MEETING, NOVEMBER 20, 7978:
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to approve the minutes as presented. Seconded
by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to adopt the agenda as submitted. Seconded by
Councilman Hamernik. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee dectared
the motion carried unanimously.
OPEN_FORUM, VISITORS: �
East River Road Improvement Proposal:
Mrs. Adell Langenfeld, 79 - 63 i/2 Way, appeared before the Council regarding
the proposal on East River Road. She asked that her comments be placed on
record regarding the feeling of residents on the proposed improvemznt of
East River Road.
Mrs. langenfeld stated the residents feel the Council and County will be
creating an uncontrol7able monster and all that would happen is the continu-
j ation of a similar "bottlenzck". She stated they were tired of approaching
I the Council�on this item and they have contacted Mr. KordiaY„ Mr. 0'Bannon
; and Mr. Bud Redepenning stating their negative position of this pruposal.
� Mrs. Langenfeld pointed out that at the last Council meeting it was stated
.. the matter is out of the Council's hands. She stated this is not so as they
, � were told Anoka County will not act until the Council acts. She stated that
, Mr. Redepenning has assured them this is still only a proposal, as noted in
j a letter of December 1, 1976 to the City Manager from Comnissioner Kordiak.
' Mrs. Langenfeld stated it is the residents' understanding that the Northtown
, Corridor proposal is undergoing the Environmental Impact Statement procedures
'� � and they urged Council to incorporate all of East River Road in that study.
, She questioned why the Council mem6ers didn't inform�their people of the
i public hearing held last fall by Anoka County.
� Mrs. Langenfeld pointed out in 1976 it was stated the City would lose Federal
� Funds, if the project didn't go through, but.she now understands these funds
� are set. aside and earning interest. She indicated this didn'.t 6other the
. residents that much, but what did concern them was why statements are made
which lead them to believe otherwise.
Mrs. Langenfeld stated her husband, James Langenfeld, was perturbed with the
statement made by Councilperson Schneider in which he stated "the Fridley
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Police must spend all their time on East River Road and cannot handle the
other problems with the City". She felt the point is that this statement
was a diversion tactic to divert from the�real issue. .
Mrs. Langenfeld" stated when Mayor Nee was running for third ward Council-
person, he stated in his campaign literature that "it was an outrage and the
East River Road neighborhoods are already bein9 severely damaged 6y the
mounting traffic load 6eing dumped on us from the north. �There's no good
reason we should be paying for development that can only attract more and
more traffic."
Mrs. Langenfeld stated the residents plan to form a Citizen's Cortmittee to
fight this proposal and in order to save time, friends and votes, she
urged the Council to vote NO when this proposal is acted upon.
Mrs. Langenfeld stated, on a personal level, East River Road has caused
them a great deal of grief, time and anxious moments trying to keep their
property intact. She stated that now the County wants 40 feet of their
property and questioned if the Council realizes the amount of loss not
only to them, but others as well.
Mr. Bonine, 125 River Edge Way, indicated most of the people in this
area feel the same way as Mrs. Langenfeld.
Mr.-Emerson, 99 - 64th Way, indicated he agreed with Mrs. Langenfeld's
comments 100� and felt they should try to discourage traffic on East
River Road.
NEW BUSINESS: �
RECEIVING THE MINUTES�OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIO!i MEETING OF �ECEMBER 6,
978:
CABA REALTY FIRST ADDITION, PRELIMINARY SJBDIVISION P.S. �78-06,
RAY WORMSBECKER 83RD AVENUE AN� UNIVERSITY AVENUE:
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to set the public hearing on this item for
January 74, 1979. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously. �
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this is a request for a special
use permit to allow the property at 5333 University Avenue to be used for
sales and service for installation of service station equipment.
Mr. Sobiech stated the Planning Comnission recommended approval with the
stipulation that a solid screening fence be erected immediately on the
outside storage area and that landscaping be completed in the spring
and be coordinated and compatible with the landscaping of Standard Oil
on the south side of the property.
Mr. Hanson> 12D57 Duke Drive N.E., the petitioner, stated he concurs with
the need for exterior improvements. Mr. Hanson stated he hoped to put up
the fence yet this year, if it is possible bec3use of the frost conditions.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager> indicated the City has problems in some areas
where equipment hits the fence and indicated there should be some protection
so that the fence is not damaged.
Mr. Hanson stated he didn't think�this would be a problem as most of their
trade is done away from the shop. �
Mr. qureshi questioned the access and drainage. Mr. Sobiech stated the
drainage would be� to the service drive and stated the petitioner doesn't
intend to use the alley access.
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Mr. Sobiech indicated they would make sure it was back far enough so as
not to cause any interference. He stated a stiputation could be added
that proper protection of the screening fence be provided.
Mr. HOnson felt the only problem they might have is residents driving
into the fence which woutd be negligence on their part.
Mr. Qureshi pointed out they are trying not to develop a situation where
he and the neighboriny residents get into a conflict.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated his chief concern is, from reading the
minutes, it sounds like there would be a great deal of outside storage
and wondered if the building on the property is suitable for the use
proposed.
Mr. Sotiiech stated, in discussions with�Mr. Hanson, he didn't get the idea
there would be quite a bit of outside storage.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to concur with the recommendation of
the Planning Cortmiission and approve SP #78-13 with the following stipu-
lations: (1) That there be a solid screening fence erected imanediately
on the outside storage area: (2) That landscaping be completed in the
spring and be coordinated and compatible with the landscaping of Standard
Oil on the south side; and (3) That some kind nf protection be provided
to prevent damage to the fence. Seconded by Counci.lman Hamernik.
Councilman Hamernik questioned if a time limit should be put on the
screening and landscaping.
Mr. Sobiech felt the landscaping could be done by the midtlle of May or
first of June and the screening they wanted immediately, 6ut depending
on the frost conditions this may have to wait until spring also.
Mr. Hanson stated there wouldn't be any outside storage�until the fence
is erected.
UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE MOTION, ali voted aye, and Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously. �
DAN-LAN DEYEL�PMENT CORPORATION, LOT SPLIT H78-OS SOUTH OF 5430 5TH
STREET:
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director,-stated there is also a variance
request associated with this lot split and asked that Council consider
action on the l.ot split when they receive the variance request. There-
fore, no action was taken on this item at this meeting.
PROPOSALS FOR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION•
This item appears later on the agenda regarding selection of a consultant
for the downtown revitalization program. �
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to receive the minutes of the Planning
Commission Meeting of �ecember 6, 1978, Seconded by Councilman Hamernik.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanirtrously, .
RECEIVING THE 147NUTES OF THE CABLE TELEVISION COMMISSION MEETING OF
NOVEMBER 29, 797g;
MDTION by Councilman Schneider to receive the minutes of the Cabie
Television Cortrnission Meeting of November 29, 197g, Seconded by Council-
man Pitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting�aye, Mayor�Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
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Representatives of the Perlman-Rocque Company (North) appeared before
the Council regarding development of a commercial facility in the City of
Fridley. They stated they wished to build a distribution facility to
supply the McDonald's Systems Tncorporated with various products and supplies
needed to operate a�family type restaurant. They explained the fatility
wilt tie 6uilt on�approximately six acres of land off East River Road,
south of i-694. A site plan and artist's conception of the building
were submitted for the Council's review. The proposed building is
approximately 56,780 square feet with 28,600 feet for dry storage;
15,180 square feet for refrigeration; 7,000 square feet for the truck
court; and 6,000 square feet for office and mezzanine. It is proposed
to have a service drive for the truck yard to.90 on to 52nd Avenue.
Mr. Bernie Friel, Attorney with the Briggs and Morgan law firm in St.
Paul, explained the difference in the industrial tax exempt mortgage �
as opposed to the industrial revenue bonds. He stated, in the case of
industrial� revenue bonds, you have an underwriter involved which is
not the case in an industriat tax exempt mortgage. He stated the proposed
user comes to the Council with a banker who is willing to pick up the
financing in a single note. He stated the municipal obligation is to
see that the principal and interest of the note is paid from the revenue
derived.
Mr. Friel stated the resolution before the Council relates to the purposes
for the financing and pointed out there is nothing in the resolution
that o6lSgates the City to issue this note. .
Councilman Barnette questioned if, in fact, this facility was built and
the company went broke, if the City was o6ligated to make good on the
note.
Mr. Friel stated there is no financial obligation for the City, but the
purpose of the financing is to help increase the City's tax base.
Councilman Fitzpatrick indicated there was a lot of material and details
in the agenda regarding.this proposed project.
MOTION by Councilman fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 126-1978, as
noted on Pages 3 through 3C of the agenda book. Seconded by Council-
man Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously. . �
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this item was before the
Planning Comnission and their recoircnendation was to proceed with pro- �
fessional Planning and Development as the consultant. They also
recomnended either a special assessment of the property owners in the
area or a cooperative financing from property owners in the area to
help pay for it.
Mr. Sobiech stated a selection group was formed consisting of Jerry
Boardman, City Planner, Bruce Goodman, Management Analyst, and him-
self to make a recomnendation on the consultants. He stated they
based their recommendation on bid proposals, publication presentations
by the consultants, input from the Council and public at the presentations,
reference calls to cities and firms familiar with Lhe work of the con-
sultants and a review of�reports previously completed by the consultants.
Besides this criteria, other things taken into consideration were good _
cortmunications with the Council, business community, general public
and staff; a working knowledge of financial analyses and strategies;
working knowledge of different types of grants that are available and
the grants process; ability to conduct field research; ability to
explain the potential of a project to developers and types of services
provided in relation to the cost of the proposal.
Mr. Sobiech stated, after careful review and analysis, it was the selection
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group's recommendation that Professional Planning and.Development be
selected as the consultant for the downtown revitalization program.
Mr. Sobiech expTained four phases are indicated in this program and
the consultant is aware that the City has the right to terminate
the contract at the completion of any phase. .
� Councilman Barnette�stated it was his understanding that a local Twin
! Cities firm would have some advantage. Mr. Sobiech stated Professional
� Planning and Development has Mankato as their address, but have found
they are working more and more in the metropotitan area.
�� � Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated he could see no problems with the
� . City's right to terminate after any phase since costs were listed.
Councilman Hamernik stated the Planning Commission's recortmendation
regarding the financing was considered at one time and it was felt
this wasn't the approach the City should take at this time. He
pointed out he was not ignoring their concerns and appreciated their
cwnments, but felt the approach�they are taking is probably the most
feasible and best way to get the program started.
i MOTION 6y Councilman�Hamernik to concur with the recortmendation of
�'� staff and award the 6id to the Professiona7 Planning and Development �
Company and proceed, as recommended�, with the execution of the contract.
ISeconded by Councilman Schneider.
�, Councilman Schneider stated he basically concurs with the recoimnendation
i of the Planning Comnission in trying to get the business cortmunity
to share some of the expenses, but felt they have to look at a starting
� point. He felt, however, it would be a benefit if this could be de-
� veloped. He stated he looked at this as a catalyst to get something
i moving and not for the City to overshadow the private business sector.
'� Mr. S�biech stated the total amount for the study would be $15,500.
i(�: UPON A VOICE�VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, a11 voted aye, and Mayor
� Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
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Mr. James Hill, Public Safety �irector, stated two quotes vrere received
for animat control service in the City for 1979. These were from
MAPSI, who currently has the contract with the City for these services>
and the other was� from Blaine Midway.
Mr. Hill stated.there were two plans, Plan A and Plan B, submitted
for quotes. Plan A is basically the system the City is accustomed -
to or an itemized system where the City agrees to pay a�ce�rtain rate
for the type of services. He stated both MAPSI and Blaine Midway
su6mitted quotes for this type of service. Mr. Hill stated, on Plan
B, which is basically a flat rate regardless of the number or type of
calls and the City is billed by the month, MpPSI did not submit a quote
for that type of system.
Mr. Hill stated, in reviewing the quotes, they find that Blaine Midway
was stightly lower than the quotes received from MAPSI and are> there-
fore, recommending that the animal control contract for 1979 be awarded
to Blaine ldidway. Mr. Hill stated they are not specifically stating
which plan would be used, but would anticipate they would stay with
the original system for a certain amount of time until they get some
feel as to what the costs would be. �
He stated Blaine Midway has indicated there would be no pro6lem, if
the City wanted to switch to the other type of billing. �
Councilman Schneider stated last year when they were looking at the
hids, there was some question regarding the adequacy of the facilities
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Mr. Hill stated he has not personally inspected the facilities this
year, but talked with other cities who do use this service and they
are satisfied with the services provided.
Mayor Nee questioned what kind of controls there are on businesses of
this type as far as checking for disease.
Mr. Greg Idax, owner of Blaine Midway, stated they are inspected periodi-
cally 6y Federal inspectors and he is Federally licensed. He indicated
he was more than happy to show the Council all or any inspection re-
ports they have had since they've 6een in business.
Councilman Fitzpatrick questioned how animal diseases were controlled.
Mr. Wax stated thro�gh disinfectants and hard continuous scrubbings. �
MOTION by Councilinan Barnette to approve 8laine Midway for animal
control services for 1979. Seconded by Councilman Hamernik. �
Dr. Hedges, owner of the Brighton Veterinary Nospital at 2615 Mississippi
Street, felt Ruth Duchaine of the State Animal Humane Society should
be contacted regarding the disease problems at 8laine Midway. He
stated he was asked by Ms. Duchaine to testify on some of the disease
problems at 6laine Midway> as they have had cases of distemper and
kennel cough which he felt should.be looked into further. .
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated he has heard of this type of thing and
that was the reason for his earlier question. He felt, from the
presentation, there isn't sufficient reason for changing the animal
control services to Blaine Midway as MFPSI seems to be sati�sfactory.
Councilman Schneider stated the reason for his question was that he
had stopped by Blaine Midway unannounced and it was less than he had
hoped to see. Ne asked Dr. Hedges if he was aware of similar problems
with MAPSI. .
Dr. Hedges stated he has seen kennel cough problems at MAPSI.
Mr. Hiil stated he wished to emphasize they are totally satisfied with
the services provided by MAPSI and the only reason they were recommending
the change was because it was a lower bid. He stated, after checking
with other cities regarding Blaine Midway, he could find no detrimental
reason not to recommend the low bidder. ,
Councilman Hamernik stated his primary reason for supportin9 the Blaine
Midway proposal was that they can reduce the patrol �eared to be af
they so desire. .He stated he was surprised MAPSI app
little negative in that aspect. �
The manager of MAPSI stated in Plan B there are a lot of unknown
factors.
Mr. Hill stated MAPSI is not offering a bid on Ptan B, but simply
saying they have the prerogative of reducing the number of patrol
hours under Plan A. He stated he understands> if they reduce the
patrol hours, that may increase the special calls.
Mr. Wax stated he has heard some unrealistic and�untruthful remarks
and would like to invite the Council out at�any time to check on his
facilities.
The manager of MAPS; pointed out if they have to "do�away" with any
animal> their contract indicated they are liable and would have to
defend the City and have proper insurance. He stated they do have
a veterinarian on call. He stated, if the City is going to award
the contract to Blaine Midway, he would make sure they have a licensed
veterinarian.
Mr. Hill stated the specifications do address this situation and the
question of liability.
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MDTIpN by Councilman Schneider to table this to #he first meet ngEin
January in order to allow staff time to follow up on these points
brou9ht up at this meetin9. .SecondeA by�Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon
.a voice vote, all voting aye, Idayor�Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously. � .
14r. Hill stated he would investioate the health conditions further and
report 6ack at the next meeting. �
Mr. Sobiech, Public IJorks Director, stated this change order involves the
- curbing.and sidewalks around the Vi7lage Green property site,. and stated
�, �they�eiould be added to the 1979 project.
HOTION by Councilnan Schneider to�approve Change Orderv #5, Street Improve-
men± Project St. 197II-T with IJDH, Inc. to deduct the following: 63rd
Avenue�(Sth Streef to 7th Street); 7th Street (63rd Avenue to Mississippi
Street); and 5th Street (63rd Avenue to 130 feet�North) for a total de-
duction of $77,996.22. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. tlpon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
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�-N�,un ny �ounciiman Hamernik to adopt Resolution No. 127-197g, Seconded
by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice.vote, all voting aye, �1ayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimousiv.
MUTION by Counciiman Barnette to adopt Resolution No. 728-1978,
Seconded.by Councilman Schneider. �Upon a voice vote, all voting dye,
Mayor Nee dectared the motion carried unanimously. �
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to adopt Resolution No. 129-1978.
Seconded by Councilman Schneider.
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works �irector, stated, based on the public
hearing held last week, Arthur Street was etiminated under St. 1979-2
and the sidewalks for East River Road were eliminated under St. 7979-4
Mayor Nee stated, at the public hearing last week regarding the
sidewalks on East River Road, it appeared about everyore was opposed
to this improvement so that has been deleted. He stated he under-
stands there are persons present this evening who wish to express
themselves regarding the basic project. .
Mr. Sobiech stated generally the improvement was to consist of �
safety improvements to the roadway by adding sidewalks and shoulder
areas. He stated medians were also proposed to protect the left
turn movements and these locations were pointed out on the map. Mr.
Sobiech stated the improvement project was ordered in 1971 and
several stages have been completed, but the final phase has never
been done.
i Mr. Sobiech stated a public hearing is again being held beCause of
, new legislation which requires that improvements having an assessment
must be completed in a year and since the pr4ject was ordered in
i�. 7971; a new hearing is being held.
� i Mr. Sobiech stated the resolution now before the Council is ordering
ithe improvement and authorizing certain assessments. �
' Councilman Fitzpatrick stated the people in the audience have been
led to believe that, even though this is a County project, there
is a point where the City has an approval or rejection position.
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Mr. Herrick, City�Attorney, stated there are two things you are talking
about--one is legal authority to do the improvement and the other is the
politics of whether it is going to be done or not. He stated the County
has the authority to proceed with the improvement, without approval of
the City. He stated, as a practical matter, however, the County may not
do this.
Mr. Ray Humann, 40 - 62 1/2 Way, submitted the notice he received to the
City Attorney for his review. Mr. Herrick pointed out. the notice addresses
a number of projects and lists the streets to be improved. He pointed
out, at the hearing last week, there was discussion on what is proposed
at this time> and what would be.assessed. .
Mr. Humann stated it seems this matter comes up every few years and wondere'd
if someone from the County'was pushing this improvement.
Councilman Barnette stated he understands the County's viewpoint of the ,
improvement is a way of moving traffic. '
F1r. Wronski, 189 River Edge Way, stated if the left turn medians are
installed, they would be getting nare traffic on their street. He stated �,
he understands putting in the medians is simply a safety precaution.and .
felt it would be��ore practical to simply lower the speed limit. ��.
Mayor Nee stated that Mrs. Langenfetd quoted him corredly and stated he �,
has always shared their view and worked for a number of years to try ,
and find some reasonable alternative on the safety issue. He stated the '�..
City petitioned for a 35 mile per hour speed limit and was turned down �
by the State. He stated the City has initiated extensive control in ;
trying to find some solution to the safety problem. �,..
Mr. Emerson, 99 - 64th Way, felt, by improving East River Road, they '��.
are inviting more traffic and felt the Northtown Corridor would eliminate .
traffic on East River Road. ���,
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Mr. Hill, Public Safety Director, stated the Police Department finds it ,,
very difficult to make stops on East River Road as there are orly a few j
places where it is relatively safe to stop motorists. He stated about .
50% of the STEP time is used for enforcement on East River Road.
Mr. Ellis, 70 - E3rd Way, felt the improvement would only be putting
a band-aid on the project for a 7 block stretch, as that would be the
only place the police could stop cars.
Ms. Pangburn> 80 - 62 1/2 Way, pointed out that, if they proceed with
this improvement, it would be necessary for her garage to�be moved.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, pointed out that if the property owner can�
prove that this improvement adversely affects their property and they have
suffered damages, they would be compensated.
Mr. Qureshi stated, as the road is now, �t gives no protection for pedes-
trian or non-motorized vehicles. He stated the City desires to make
�East River Road safer for the residents.
Mr. Bonine, 125 River Edge Way, felt, by improving the road, you would
have more traffic and it would be moving faster.
Councilman Barnette stated in 1976 there was a project committee working
on this matter of�East River Road and they were talking about left turn
lanes to make it a safer roadway. .
Mr. Fessenden, 111 - 63 1/2 Way, stated what they were discussing was
an alternative to this plan, however, there was no mention of widening the
road in ordcr to accomplish this.
-Mr. Fessenden stated he has no objection to entering or exiting on East �
River Road and hasn't seen a true safety factor.
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Mr. Wronski questioned if the City has come up with any alternatives to
this proposal.
Mayor Nee stated the County proposal was to put medians in all the way
and as a result of the hearings in 1971, the City prevailed on the County
ta permit these turning procedures into the neighborhoods.
Mr. Fessenden felt, by improving East River Road, it would only make it
more attractive and they would have more traffic. Mr. fessenden stated,
at the time of the project cortmittee study in 1976, the Minnesota Pollution
Control�Agency did take decibel ratings on East River Road and they we�e
in excess and any widening would be detrimental as it would increase
the noise.
_ Mr. Jim Langertfeld, 79 - 63 1/2 Way, stated Mr. Redepenning indicated
��. they would not violate the noise potlution levels and that the readings
would only be a few decibels higher, but felt there was a tremendous
� environmental concern irregardless of the traffic.
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Mr. Sobiech stated the County submitted an environmental assessment in
making application for the project and they felt, based on certain noise
level readings, that there would 6e no discernable increase in noise after
the improvement as to what exists now.
Mrs. Slater, 128 River Edge Way, stated all the people living on East
River Road are satisfied and asked wfly the Council couldn't leave it
alone.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated it surprises him that those persons who,
over the last few years, were concerned with the safety�and asking for
left turn lanes are not present this evening. He stated if the people
present do represent the feelings of the people on East River Road, he
stated he certainly has to represent them in his decision.
Road andwabouta725peopletfromPthe�eastVSide�oftEasteRiverdRoad were present
and objected to the improvement.
Councilman Schneider stated he bzlieves there is a serious safety factor
involved. He pointed out that 50% of the STEP program is for enforcement
on East River Road and indicated this program wi71 pro6ably not be in
existence in the next several years.
Councilman Hamernik felt they have to be realistic and consider the
safety factor.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated the people here this evening are the ones
with the biggest safety problem, as they are turning off and onto�East
River Road. He indicated he would like to see demonstration of the
fact, that these people speak for all the people east and west between
Charles Street and 64th Way. Councilman Fitzpatrick stated he does
feel they are hearing from the peopte whose safety is most in jeopardy.
Mr. Wronski stated they are all concerned wiih the safety problem, but
are not in agree�nt with this particular solution. He indicated they
want the safety problem resolved, but are not in favor of widening the
road and putting in medians. He felt there had to be other alternatives.
Mayor Nee stated it isn't as though the City hasn't tried to find other
alternatives.
Mr. Langenfeld stated to imply that they are not safety conscious is
not true, but indicated they don't know if the improvement would increase
traffic and create bottlenecks.
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to table this item. Seconded by Councilman
Fitzpatrick. .
Councilman Fitzpatrick felt the storm sewer project would have to come
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as a separate proposal as it is now tied to the improvement of East River
Road.
Mr. Sobiech felt even.if there is a problem with the total improvement, .
they should continue with the storm sewer improvement.� .
CDUNCILMAN FITZPATRICK WITNDREW HIS SECOND, AND COUNCILMAN BARNETTE WITH-
DREW HIS MOTION.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated the resolution could be adopted by
amending the resolution to cover the drainage improvement only on East
River Road from Charles Street to 64th Way.
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to amend Resolution No. 129-1978 Ordering
Improvement and Final Plans and Specifications and Estimates of Costs
Thereof: Street Improvement Project 5T. 1979-1, ST. 1979-2 (MSAS) and
ST. 1979-4 (CSRH) by changing the portion under ST. 1979-4 to read that
this shall cover storm sewer improvements onl as it relates to East River
Road from Charles Street to 64th�Way. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously. .
RECESS:
Recess called by Mayor Nee at 11:10 p.m
RECONVENED: �
Mayor Nee reconvened the meeting at 11:25 p.m. All Council members were
present.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 130-1978. Seconded
by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR MUNICIPAL STATE AIU SYSTEM:
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this five year construction
program proposed�for the City and is a continuation of the City's existing
street improvement and surface treatment programs.
He explained this was requested by-the Dffice of State Aid and involves
the Municipal State Aid program for streets. hir. So6iech stated-this program
can be adjusted annually. �
Mr. Sobiech pointed out the City stiil has to follow the appropriate
hearings for improvements, if it was an assessing project.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to approve the.capital improvement project
for the Municipal State Aid System. Seconded by Councilman Hamernik. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
CLAIMS:
MDTION by Councilman Schneider to authorize payment of Claims No. 339P06
through 34IIW07. Seconded by Counci.lman Hamernik. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
LICENSES: i
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to approve the licenses as submitted and as �;
on file in the License Cterk's Office. Seconded by Councilman_Hamernik. .
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried .
unanimously. . i
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LICENSE - HEDGES TREE SERVICE: �
Dr. Hedges, operator of the Brighton Veterinary Clinic, appeared 6efore
the Council regarding his application for a license to operate a tree
service.
It was pqinted out tha•t Dr. Hedges would not be complying with the ordi-
nance as he did not carry workmen's compensation. _
�r. Hedges stated he�did this type of work while working his way through
college and enjoys this sort of work as an outlet from his regular veter-
inarian practice.
�` employees.heHeindicated�he wouldtp obabl�averagee2aor 6 hours�a week and
pointed out that workmen's compensation insurance runs between $500-$600
regardless of how many hours worked.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated he would have to check, if he was the
sole person doing this work, if workmen's compensation was required.
Dr. Hedges stated, in checking with his insurance agent, he was totd it
was not required. Ne stated he is adequately covered as far as the liabil-
ity, through the Rice Creek Agency.
MOTION by Counci�iman Schneider to grant the license to Dr. Hedges for his
tree service contingent on a determination by the City Attorney that work-
men's compensation is not required and provided that Dr. Hedges indicates
his interest in being.the sole proprietor. Seconded by Councilman
Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the
motion carried unanimously.
ESTIMATES:
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to approve the estimates as submitted.
Smith, Juster, Feikema, Malmon & Haskvitz
�-, Suite 1250 �
� : Builders Exchange Building
Minneapolis, MN 55402
For legal service rendered as Prosecutor during�
November, 197g
Weaver, Talle & Herrick
316 East Main Street
Anoka, MN 55303
For legal service rendered as City Attorney during
November, 1978
NDH Asphalt, Inc.
700 Industry Avenue N.W.
Anoka, NN 553D3
$ 2,080.00
S 1,766:80
; FINAL Estimate #4 - Street Improvement Projact St. 7978_�
; FINAL Estimate #4 - Street Im rovement Project St. 197g_p $37>607.23
FINAL Estimate #4 - Street Improvement Project St. 1978-q $ 1,351.30
����` Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
i Nee dectared the motion carried unanimously. ��
.� � -' ADJOURNMENT: � �
. MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Councilman
� Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously and the Regular Meeting of the Fridley Council of December
, 18,�197II adjourned at 17;qp p,m,
Respectfully submitted,
Carole Haddad
Secy. to the City Council
Approved:
WilTiam J, Nee
Mayor
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THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL OF JANUARY 8, 1974
The Regular Meeting of the Fridley City Council was called to order by Mayor Nee
at 7:30 P.M. . . �
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Mayor Nee led the Council and audience in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
ROLL CALL•
MEMBERS PRESEf�T: Mayor Nee, Councilman Barnette, Councilman Schneider>
Councilman Hamernik and Councilman Fitzpatrick
MQABERS ABSENT: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
REGULAR MEETING OF �ECEtdBER 4, 1978:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to approve the minutes of December 4, 7978 as
presented. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
,I PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF DECEMBER 11 1978:
Councilman Hamernik requested an addition on Page 5> after the third paragraph,
under the item concerning 61st Avenue, as follows: "Councilman Hamernik stated he
would be opposed to that assessment".
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to approve the minutes of December 11, 1978 with the ''
above amendment. Seconded by Councitman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting I
aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unznimously.
ADMINISTRATION OF OATH OF OFFICE TO ELECTED OFFICIALS: �'��
Mr. Brunsell, City Clerk, administered the oath of office to Councilman Fitzpatrick '�
wtro was re-elected to the Council from Ward III.
Councilman Fitzpatrick thanked the people who supported him in the election and those
that helped in his campaign. �.
Mayor Nee asked Mr. Herrick, City Attorney> to coimnent regarding the Ward I Council
seat. Mr. Herrick stated, as everyone knows, this was a ctose election in Ward I and
there has been a request for a recount. He�stated the recount has been completed
and arguments on behalf of both the contestants have been made to the court. Ne
stated, however, tlie decision of the judge is still pending. Mr. Herrick stated,
because of the provisions of the State Statute and City Charter, he has concluded
that the incumbent should occupy this seat on the Council until the court makes a
decision.
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to table the item regarding the Ward I Council�seat
until the court makes a decision. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, hiayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously
Mr. Herrick stated he�has written a letter to the judge explaining the situation
and�requesting a decision as quickly as possible.�
A�OPTION OF AGENDA:
Councilman (itzpatrick requested that the variances in conjunction with item 2
on the agenda regarding the Dan-Lan �evelopment Corporation be inc7uded under
Item 3 of the agenda concerning tYe L'oar-d of Appeals Minutes of December 26, 1978.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt the agenda as amended. Seconded by
Councilman Hamarnik. Upon a voice vote, all votiny aye, Mayor Nee declared the
motion carried unanimously.
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OPEN FORUM, VISITORS:
There was no response from the audie�ce under this item of business.
OLD BUSINESS: � �
CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL DF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL �
TABLED 72/18 78 : .
���. Mr. Jim Hill, Public Safety Director, stated, at the request of the Council, they �
'�. conducted an investigation of Blaine Midway All Pets. He stated they also contacted
{ Dr. Nedges of the New Brighton Veterinarian Hospital and his basic concern appears
i to be animals that Blaine 1lidway allegedly sold that were sick. Mr. Hill stated
Dr. Hedges was of the opinion they�sell the sick animals for exhorbitant prices.
Mr. Hill stated he talked with Mrs. Deschene of the State Numane Society and she
��� felt Blaine Midway was guilty of selling sick anima7s. She stated there was a
Ipoor structure system within the kannel in that air was entering from the isolation
� wards into the kennel area. Mr. Hill stated, however> this apparently has been
corrected. He stated Mrs. Deschene has reco�nended that any cities that are
affiliated with Blaine Midway not renew their contracts and any new cities not
i take up contracts with Blaine Midway All Pets. �
Mr. Hill stated he also talked to the Clerk at the Ramsey City Hall who has an
animal control contract with Blaine Midway and they indicated they have had numerous
complaints about boarded animals at Blaine Midway who have contracted kennel cough
and distemper.
Mr. Hill stated, in checking with Dr. Brandjord of the Skyline Veterinary Clinic
in Fridley, he stated he has also heard of complaints that Blaine Midway was selling
sick animals and would not stand behind them. Mr. Hill stated, in contacting the
Lino Lakes Police Department and speaking with the receptionist, she felt most of
the pro6lems are with the owner and with the person on patrol not following police
orders. She stated tfiey do have a new manager and the situation is getting better.
Councilman Schneider stated he had also done some checking regarding the Blaine
- Midway facilities and he received the same information that there had been numerous
j� complaints regarding Blaine Midway A1l Pets. He stated, because of this nistory,
l he would feel more comfortable in having the animal control services with MAPSI.
� Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, explained this is not the kind of expenditure the City
is required to take bids on 6ecause it is a personal service type contract. He
stated there is some authority that once the City does take bids, they are obligated
to give it to the lowest responsible 6idder. He stated this gets down to the
question of what they determine is a responsible bidder. He stated they�have the
problem of not being able to put an exact cost on this service since they are
estimating and projecting. He stated, depend.ing on the kind of service, any of
these bidders could be high or low at the end of the year. Mr. Greg Wax, owner
of Blaine Midway All Pets, stated he is licensed under the United Stated Department
of Agriculture and not licensed by the State. He stated federal inspectors visit
his facilities for inspections.
Mr. Wax introduced Dr. LeBlond, veterinarian in Blaine, who he has contacted to
help him with his facilities since Dr. Erkel, the veterinarian he had previously,
passed away. Dr. LeBlond stated he contacted Dr. Hedges to go out to the Blaine
Midway All Pet:• facilities unannounced. Dr. I_eBlond stated, basically> Dr. Hedges'
comnent was that he thought the facilities were good, clean and uncrowded, 6ut
. suggested the knnels should be rotated.
Dr. LeBlond stated there have been problems and they have to get in and break the
disease cycle. Dr. LeBlond stated, basically, Blaine Midway is a good facility,
�' but it needs a veterinarian to help Mr. Wax with the problems he has had. Dr. LeBlond
stated both kennel cough and distemper are very contagious and pointed out you will
�. always have some problems because you are taking dogs off the street and don't know
their history or if they have been vaccinated.
Councilman Schneider stated his main concern is that Blaine Midway is in the process
of clearing up a problem and since they have not had any problems with MAPSI, he
couldn't see the rationale of switching to another facility.
COUNCILMAN BARNETTE, WITH THE PERMISSION OF HIS SECONDER, COUNCIMAN HAMERNIK, WITH-
�REW Ht5 MOTION MA�E AT TNE LAST MEETING TO AWARD THE BID TO BLAINE MID4IAY ALL PETS.
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MOTION by Councilman Sheridan to award the 1979 contract for animal control
services to MAPSI the�reason being the level of complaints at Blaine Midway, as
compared with F1APS1, and the recommendation of the Humane Society that cities
not take up any contracts with Blaine Midway Atl Pets. Seconded by Councilman
Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously. �
NEW BUSINESS:
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this is a request to split three
existing 40 foot lots into two 60 foot lots. He stated, if the lot split is
approved, the existing single fami7y home and garage, which would be relocated,
wili be on Lot 5 and the North half of Lot 6 and to the South of this would�be
a duplex or double garage.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to concur with the recomnendation of the Planning
Comnission and grant Lot Sp7it /i78-05. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Ilpon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
The variances are to be considered in the next item of business,
RECEIVING THE BOARO OF APPEALS MINUTES OF DECEMBER 26, 1978:
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Mr. Sobiech> Public Works Director, stated this is a request for variances in con-
junction with the lot sp7it approved by the Councii for the Dan-Lan Development
Corporation,
The variances requested are to reduce the area requirement for the lot from the
required 10,D00 square feet to 7,812 square feet and to reduce the side yard require-
ment for the existing house from 10 feet to 3.9 feet from the new property line.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to concur with the recortanendation of the Board of
Appeals and grant the variances with the stipu7ation that the building placed on
the South ]ot be at least 76.1 feet from the Northpra,�erty'line. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the
motion carried unanimously.
2• 40 f'OOT LOTS:
Comnission wouldajustkastsoon�havemaneopportunity�totact aga9ntonrthishitemPeals
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick that the request be returned to the Appeals
Comnission. Seconded by Counci7man Hamernik. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
M07ION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to receive the Appeals Commission minutes of
December 26, 197g, Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF SIGN PLAN FOR CONVENIENCE CENTER AT 7899 EAST RIYER ROAD:
�dr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, presented the proposed sign plan for the conven-
ience center at 7899 East River Road.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to accept the sign plan as submi'tted. �Seconded
by Councilnan Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
, I �Mr. Quresbi, City Manager, stated there was sizeable damage to fire equipment of
both Fridley and Columbia Heights Fire Departments in fighting the fire at FMC.
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He stated they have filed with the ins�rance company for the losses, however> this
equipment needs to be replaced iimnediately as it is used for day-to-day operations.
Mr. Qureshi stated, it is requested> therefore, the Council authorize these funds
to replace the equipment. . �
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to approve�the funds for replacement of the Fridley
Fire Department equipment up to $8,157.05 and the funds for the Colum6ia Heights
Fire Department equipinent up to 51,965.42 and direct the adininistration to prepare
a resolution transferring these amounts out of the Contingency Fund. Seconded
by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye> Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION DF SEEKING LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY ON TAX.EXEMPT MORTGAGE FOR HOUSING:
The Council was requested to consider whether they wished to proceed to seek
legislative. authority to provide tax exempt bonds for housing.
Mr. Brunsell, City Clerk> stated the bonds would actually be paid by the trustees
to�determinetwho would�be5eligiblerforethe5 ortgageemoneyc�� Would set the rules
Mayor Nee indicated he had reservations on the impact on the municipal 6ond market
as it might adversely price general obligation bonds. Ne felt, however, if
neighboring comnunities offer this type of financin9, Fridley may get shut out of
the housing market. �
Mr. Brunsell also pointed out, if you have morgage money available, this may also
affect�the price of homes in Fridley. He pointed out, if the Council decides to
proceed, there would be a lot more work and detailed�information to be supplied.
� Councilman Hamernik questioned the interest in this type of bond since industrial
revenue bonds have been around a number of years and the�interest has been minimal.
F1r. Brunsell felt, with the current interest rate for private housing and mortgage
money unavailable, many people cannot buy homes. He felt, several years ago, they
v+ere better able to borrow money than today. He felt industrial revenue bonds are
a little different in that you are dealing with one company and with this type of
bond, you would be dealing with a lot of persons. �
Councilman Hamernik stated there are certain discount arid service charges with the
industrial revenua bonds and asked if the same applied in the case of the bonds
for tax exempt mortgages. .
Mr. Brunsell stated the same would be true and over the period of the loan, the
difference of what the bond sells for and what private homeowners pay, woultl make
up these amounts to cover such costs.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager> stated he felt the matter of tax exempt mdid9notswant
housing was a delicate question and a policY matter. and therefore,
to proceed until direction was received from the Council. He stated, if the Council
wished to proceed in this area, additional information would be obtained.
Councilman Barnette felt he would not be in fahowe�ersUhe fePt itsmightfbehgoodtto
becomes the lender. If this is not the case>
have morgage money available in the City.
Councilman Schneider felt he would support such a proposal, but does have
res�ervations in that it might result in loss of tax revenue.
Councilman Fitzpatrick indicated he would be in favor of proceeding and obtaining
additional information. �
Councilman Hamernik stated he has some reservations although he cannot deny the
fact that if this is going to be made available to all comnunities, Fridley should
get the benfits also. He stated his concern is from a tax standpoint that at some
point in time, someone will have to pick up the the subsidies. He also stated he
has some reservations on the two plans. He felt it would be to,fh�heytProceedavithe
to proceed without considerating special legislation, however,
�� the other mehtod, it would be necessary to set up a non-profit organization. He
stated he doesn't fully understand all the ramifications this would entail.
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Mr. Brunsell, City Clerk, felt, if the Council wished to proceed, these would
be some of the things that would have to be checked into further.
Mayor Nee felt the City wou7dn't be bound if they sought the special legislation.
Councilman Fitzpatrick �questioned if the City doesn't seek the special legisla-
tion,�if they could proceed under the same authority they have in issuing a
general revenue band.. � �
Mr. Herrick felt the State is saying that the City can issue bonds under the same �
authority that they issue industrial revenue bonds. He stated, if this information
is wrrect, the City wouldn't need the special legislation, however, if it I
turns out that the Internal Revenue Service or some court says this isn't permis- �'
sible, then perhaps the City would want�the alternative of special legislation. �
Mayor Nee stated the programs that have been done so far all have been special
legislation. j
h10TI0N by Councilman Fitzpatrick to instruct the administration to seek special �
legislation for issuance of tax exempt bonds for housing. Seconded 6y Councilman �
Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee dectared the motion carried
unanimously. '.'
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, questioned if it was the desire of the Council to attach
this request onto a similar bill.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated he wanted to make it clear that the City isn't looking
for special authority to do something they already have the authority to do. Mayor
Nee felt administration should report back on the choices of legislation.
rtuilON by.�Councilman Schneider to extend the existing Council appointments until a
decision is reached by the judge regarding appointment to the Ward I Council seat.
Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voiing aye, P1ayor Nee �
declared the rtrotion carried unanimously,
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to direct administration to contact the members
of the Comnissions and Sub-coimnittees whose terms will expire to determine if they
are interested in re-appointment. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
It was suggested that possibly any vacancies on the commission could be advertised
in the newspaper for citizens who may 6e interested.
RESOLUTION N0. 1-ig79 DESIGNATING AUTHORIZED SIGNATURES FOR�THE CITY OF FRIDLEY AN�
OFFICIAL DEPOSITORIES:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution No. 1-1g7g, Seconded by Council-
man Hamernik. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously.
RESOLUTION N0. 2-1g7g DESIGNATING A LEGAL NEWSPAPER FOR THE�YEAR 1979:.
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to adopt Resolution No. 2-197g designating the Sun �
Neo�spaper as the City's legal newspaper for 1979, Seconded by Councilman Schneider.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously. �
RESOLUTION ItlO. 3-7979 DESIGNATING TI�qE AND NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEETINGS: ..
MOTION by�Counci�lman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution N0. 3-1979, Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the
motion carried unanimously.
; RESOLUTION N0. 4-7979 ENDORSING A LOCAL ALCOHOL SAFETY CAMPAIGN TO KEEP DRINKING
IVERS UT 0 THE DRIVER S SEAT:
, I MOTION hy Councilman Hamernik to adopt Resolution No. 4-197g, �Seconded tiy Council-
man Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously,
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MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution No. 5<1979 and autnorize the
execution of the technical assistance agreeinent for the year 1979 with the
Minnesota �epartment of Transportation. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
RESOLUTION N0. 6-1979 TO ADVERTISE FDR�6IDS FDR REPAIR ON WELLS N0. 6 AND N0. 11:
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to adopt Resoluti�on No•Ma o97Nee declaaed theCmot on
man Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all votin aye, Y
carried unaniinously.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt all�votinn a�e,�Mayor Neeedeclaredythe
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, 9 Y
m�tion carried unanirtausly. .
Councilman Barnette questioned the words "which is land to be held ano usea rur
permanent open space" as noted in Paragraph 2 of the resolution. Mr. Qureshi,
City Manager, stated the amount requested is essentially for the building.
Councilman Barnette stated he realizes the City must be the applicant for the
�,. grant, however, he wanted to make it clear that the City isn't obli9ating any of
�. I����� its funds for this purpose as the matchin9 funds would come from the Springbrook
I�� Nature Foundation.
MOTIDN by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution No. 8-1979• Seconded by Council-
man Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously.
orcn�urTnN N0. 9-1979 APPROVIN6 FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN REVISION
Mr. Sobiech, Pu61ic Works Director, statedrohoseUis�sart ofhthercapital�nmprovement
indicate te LAWCON that the project they p p P
program.
He stated the Council has to understand that this is a preliminary draft and staff
is in the process of develop�nasathePCity concludesnthe mandat ry�planning�requmre-
is in the preliminary stages,
ments.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt a��°voting aye>9Mayor Neeedecl�a�redYthe
Councilman Schneider.� Upon a voice vo�te,
motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resoluti9n No. �ayo97Nee decla�red the
Councilman Namernik. Upon a voice vote, all votin aye,
motion carried unanimously.
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�� Mr. Sobiech�, Public Works Director> stated there were five companies who submitted
� bids, however> tbnce and Case Power�andaEquipment etMrllSobiechestatedtthe therre-
ments> Ziegler,
three companies bidding either did not meet the requirements of the specifications
for this machine or did not bid on all the items in the bid requirements.
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Mr. Sobiech stated these bids before the Council are different from a typicat
low price bid as it is a total cost bid. He pointed out the bid includes the five
year quaranteed repurchase price and the 6,000 hour maintenance figure.
Mr. Sobiech stated, even without these certain guarantees which he feels protect
the City, Ziegler, Inc..was the low bidder.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to receive the bids as follow and award the bid
to Ziegler, Inc, for a total amount of $41,245.00. Seconded by Councilman �
Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously.
C014PANY
Ziegler Inc.
901 W- 94th Street
Bloomington, MN 5542P
Bid Security:
Totat Price:
Less Trade-In:
Net Price:
Make & Model:
5 Yr or 6,000 hour
Maint. Exp.:
5 Yr Quaranteed Repur-
chase Arice:
6,000 Nr. Maintenance:
Total Cost Bid: �
Delivery Date:
Long Lake Ford Tractor
HwY 12
Long Lake, MN 55356
Bid Security:
Total Price: �
Less Trade-In:
Net Price:
Make & Model:
5 Yr or 6,000 hour
Maint. Exp:
5 Yr. Quaranteed Repur-
chase Price:
6>000 Hr. Maintenance:
Total Cost Bid: �
Delivery Date:
Midwdy Tractor & Equipment
3326 University S.E.
Minneapolis, MN 55414
Bid Security:
Total Price:
Less Trade-In:
Net Price:
Make & Model:
6 Yr or 6,000 Hour
Maint. Exp:
5 Yr. Quaranteed Repur-
chase Price:
6,000 Hr. Maintenance:
Total Cost Bid:
Delivery Date:
BASE BID PLUS BALDEASON NITCH OPTION
St. Paul Fire & Marine Ins
849,741.00
$12,067.00
$37,680.00
CAT 920
E 3,500.00
843,875.00
� 1>643.70
-$ 1>057.30
30-60 Days
Certified Check $2,000
$39,389.00
$11>500.00
�27,889.00
FORD A-62
E 3,aoo.00
N/A
8 7,044.00
N/A
5-10 Days
Federated Mutual Ins
�36,489.00
$ 7,500.00
$28,989.00
FOR� A-62
No Bid
No Bid
No Bid
$28,989.00
90-120 �ays
Same
$53,306.00
$12,061.00
E47,245.00
CAT 920
$ 3,900.00
$44,935.00
$ L643J0
$ 1,853.70
3D-60 Days
Same
$42,874.00
$11,500.00
$37,374.00
FORD A-62
$ 3,800.00
N)A
S 7>044.00
N/A
30-60 Days
Co. 5% Same
�40,072.00
$ 7,500.00
$32,572.00
FORD A-62
No Bid
No Bid
No Bid
$32,572.00
90-720 Days
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� Valley Equipment Co. .
�i 12500 Dupont South
��. Burnsville> MN 55337
�� Bid Security:
���� Totai Price:
� � Less Trade-In:
Net Price:
Make & Model:
�� � 6 Yr or 6>000 Hour
��. Maint. Exp:
���. 5 Yr Quaranteed Repur-
� chase Price:
�'� . 6�,000 Hr. Maintenance:
�. Total Cost Bid:
� Delivery Date:
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Case Power & Equipment
12540 Dupont South
Burnsville, MN 55337
Bid Security:
Totat Price:
Less Trade-In:
Net Price:
Make & Model:
6 Yr or 6,OD0 Hour
Maint. Ezp:
5 Yr Quaranteed Repur-
chase Price:
6,000 Hr. Maintenance:
Tota1 Cost Bid:
Delivery Date:
PLUS BALDERSON HITCH OPTION
John �eere Ins. Co. 5%
$50,982.00 �
$14,823.D0
536,759.00
John Deere 444
$ 3,2DO.OD
$40,351.00
No Bid
-$ 992.00
30-60 Days
Continental Ins. Co. 5�
550,227.00 / $42,878.00
$13,825.00 / $13,825.OD
$36>402.D0 / $29,053.D0
Case W2D6 / Case W74H
$ 4,000.00 / $ 4,000.00
$43,OOD.DO / $33,000.00
$ 3,703.70 / $ 6,354J0
120 Days
Same
$54,742.00
$14,823.OD
$39,929.00
John Deere 444
$ 3,200.00
�42,419.00
No Bid
$ 710.00
30-60 Days
Same
$55,118•DO / $47,358.00
�13>825.OD / $13,825.00
CasezW206 / Case5W74HD
$ 4,000.00 / S 4,OOD.00
$43,D00.00 / $33>D00.00
$ 6,301.70 / $ 6,307.70
$ 8,594.70 / $10,834.70
720 Days
CLAIMS:
MOTIDN by Councilman Fitzpatrick to a�thorize payment of Claims No. 348W07 throu9h
No. 360938.. Seconded by Councilman Hamernik.
Councilman Schneider questioned if staff periodically checks for price comparisons
in purchasin9 items or contracting services. Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated
these items are checked into by the staff to attempt to get the best possi6le
price for the item or service needed.
UPDN A UOICE 40TE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, all voted aye,�and Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously. �
LICENSES: � � �
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to approve the licenses as submitted and as on file
in the License Clerk's Office. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote>
a71 voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously. �
COMMUNICATIONS: -
WILLIAM CRAWFORD �ISTRICT �5 : SIGNRL ON TH 47 AT 69TH AVENUE:
MOTIDN by Councilman Schneider to receive the coimnunication from William Crawford
regarding a signal at TH 47 and 69th Avenue.
Mr. So6iech, Public Works Director, stated this letter from Mr. Crawford, District
Director�of the Mtinnesota Department of Transportation, indicates that a traffic
signal at TH 47 ?nd 69th Avenue ranks 43rd in their priority list of projects.
He stated the State's 6asic policy has been to fund signals from federal funds
where the federal government pays 76h of the costs and the state and City each pay
12% of the cost. �
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Mr. Crawford stated in his letter that the Department of Transportation cannot
a9ree to reinburse the City for "our" share of the cost of installation at any time
in the future because of the uncertainties of future funding and priorities."
Mr. Sobiech stated the Department of Transportation indicated they fund about
12 signals a year and with the signal at TH 47 and 69th Avenue being 43rd on the.
priority list, it would take a minimum of four years for this signal to be
insta7ted.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, fe7t perhaps the.City should try for special legisla-
tion with hopes of getting funds for half of the cost. Councilman Barnette felt
there was a tremendous need for signalization at this intersection. He pointed out
there is a lot of traffic coming from Columbia Arena and felt possibl.y the County
should be involved since their facility is also contributing traffic. Mayor Nee
suggested perhaps staff could figure out what the cost vrould be to finance the
signa7. Councilman Barnette stated he would be willing to contact residents in this
area regarding installation of a signal at�this intersection and how they would
feel about paying the cost. .
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated staff could work out a proposal regarding costs
so that Counci7man Barnette could have this information available. Councilman
Haznernik felt perhaps the 45 I4PH speed limit could be extended to reduce the speed
]imit past this area on�TH 47, Mr. Sobiech stated staff could check into this
possibility. �
PLYWpOD MINNESOTA:
Mayor Nee stated he has been contacted by Plywood Minnesota representatives
regarding the median on East River Road. He stated they would tike to discuss this
matter with the Council and that they will be attending the Council's conference
meeting.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated there�is lega7 action pending as Plywood
Minnesota and Wickes Furniture got a restraining order against the City and County
to prevent the median from being closed. �
Mr. Herrick stated Plywood Minnesota and Wickes have a traffic engineer represent-
ing them and he wi77 be submitting a report to the County. He stated he hoped to
hear within the next week how they are proceeding. �
A�JOURNMENT: . �
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Councilman
Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared Lhe motion carried
unanimously and the Regular Meeting of the Fridley City Council of January 8, 7g79
adjourned at 9:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Carol Haddad .
Secretary to the City Council
Approved:
Wi77iam J. Nee
Mayor
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OF JANUARY 15, 1979 . �
The Public Hearing Meeting of the Fridley City Council was called to order by
Mayor Nee at 7:42 p.m. .
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: �
Mdyor Nee led the Council and audience in the P7edge of Allegiance to the Flag.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Councilman Barnette, Councilman Schneider, Mayor Nee,
Councilman Hamernik and Counciiman Fitzpatrick �
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
M07ION by Councilman Hamernik to adopt the agenda as presented. Seconded 6y
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, alt voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimousty,
PUBLIC HEARING:
PUBLIC HEARING ON
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to waive readin9 of the public hearing notice
and open the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously and the-
public hearing opened at 7:43 p.m. .
�. Mr. Sobiech, Public Works �irector, pointed out the general location of this
� plat and that the Planning Coirmission has recomnended approval.
Mr. Sobiech stated the plat will cor.sist of 1'-� acre parcels and stated there
would be appropriate drainage and utility easements along the lot lines. He
stated there are no developments proposed at this time for the property, but
indicated, with future development, provisions must be made for drainage and
the method of retention or detention. Ne pointed out that any potential
developers for this� property should be made aware there is a requirement for
drainage� retention.
Mr. Sobiech stated he felt, if developers get together i.n developing this
property, there wouldn't be any problem taking care of the drainage since
the area is large enough. � .
Councilman Schneider questioned how the drainage would�be�taken care of, if
the parcels were developed separately.
Mr. Sobiech stated,.at the time the building permit is issued, it would be
indicated on the permit that the frequency rate of stormwater run-off would not
be aRy greater than it was before development.
Councilman Hamernik felt the Commission wanted the drainage taken care of before
issuance of the building permit. Mr. Sobiech felt this was difficult to do
without development pl.ans.
� � ; Mr. Sobiech also felt it could be stipulated, with the p7at approval, that any
� future development must take into account the drainage retention. He stated,
, . in the past, affidavits have been filed with the plat so that developers are
. aware of this requirement.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated he didn't feei there was a great difference
i whether the Council wished this drainage requirement to 6e tied in with the
.� . plat or the buildin9 permit. He stated, if the Council feets more comforta6le
. with having a notice fiied with the plat, this would be no problem.
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Councilman Fitzpatrick stated this particular area is an area where the
Environmental Quality Commission is very sensitive. Ne felt> even though
the City has taken care of drainage in the past, with� the issuance of the
building permits, he thought it might be better to recognize the problem
prior to this time and at the time the plat is filed. He felt this was an
immediate concern on the part of the Environmental Quality Commission.
Mr. Sobiech stated he would concur with Councilman Fitzpatrick's cortonents
as he felt this drainage requirement would then come�to the immediate
attention of potential developers.
Mr. Wormsbecker, the petitioner, indicated he was not happy with the drainage
system on the property and indicated t'hey would 6e willing to go along riith
the staff's recomnendation. Mr. Wormsbecker stated he has a company interested
in development> but it would cost them $9,OD0 to set up the drainage. He
stated he can see there is a pro67�n with run-off, but is not quite sure how
to handle it.
Councilman Hamernik felt, if the matter of drainage was handled for the entire
parcel> this may reduce the cost. �
Mr. Wormsbecker felt, if this was done, you may get into a problem regarding
the location of retention ponds, since you don't know for sure where a developer
may want to locate his building. M11r. Wormsbecker stated the staff is recommending
this piece of property be platted, otherwise they pro6ably wouldn't proceed with
the platting.
Mr. Sobiech stated, with development of the House of Lords, it was recanmended
this property be platted rather, than having metes and bounds, and making it
easier to develop.
Mayor Nee stated, from Mr. Wormsbecker's comment> he was under the impression
they didn't want to market the property. �
Mr. Wormsbecker indicated this was not the case and they were interested in ,
marketing the property.
No p2rsons in the audience spoke for or against this plat.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to close the public hearing. Seconded by
Councilman 8arnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously and the public hearing closed at 8:57 p.m.
NEW BUSINESS:
Mr. Brunsell, City Clerk, stated the staff made a review of all license fees �
charged by the City. He stated a cost study was made on all the fees to try
and determine the cost of issuing each license including all inspection work
that 9oes alon9 with the issuance of a license.
Mr. Brunsell stated the Council is requested to consider a proposed ordinance,
as shown on Pages 2B and 2C of the agenda book, that lists the su9gested
license fees where changes are recommended. He stated this list accounts for
about one-third of the licenses the City issues and the majority of the fees
did not chan9e and, therefore, are not included in this ordinance.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated the fee has to bear sane relationship as
to the cost of administering the license.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to waive the reading and approve the ordinance
upon first reading. Seconded by Councilman Hamernik.� Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared thz motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution No. 11-1979. Seconded by
Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye> hlayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
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ORDINANCE N0.
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AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER il OF THE CITY CODE OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY:
The City Councit of the City of Fridley does ordain as follows:
The Council of the City of Fridley hereby amends Chapter 11 of the City Code of
the City of fridley, Anoka Count
Y� Minnesota, by changing certain license fees.
Section 11.i0 Fees. License f
Code No. Sub'ect
OU Auction
Q28 Carniva]
021
302
607
111
111
025
024
602
603
ees shall be as follows:
Fee
$I5.00 per two days
, 25.00 per week
120.00 per year
Christmas Tree Lot
Uog License
Entertainment
Food Establishment
Food License, Temporary
6olf Course, Driving Range
Junkyard
Liquor, Non-Intoxicating Malt-
Beer, Off Sale '
Beer, On Sale and Off Sale
Beer, Temporary On Sale
Initial On Sale Beer
Investigation Fee
Liquor, Intoxicating:
Employee Dispensing
Initial Wine Investigation Fee
301 Livestock
Norses
Cows, goats and/or sheep
Rabbits
Fowl
. 5 Acres plus farm
40Q,00 + $p00.00 deposit
100.00 + $100.00 deposit
2.50 Neutered or Spayed
5.00 Non-neutered or No.n-spayed
1.00 Duplicate Dog Tag
{Prorated-$1.00 Minimum)
70.00
35.00 (Prorated to minimum of �25,00)
25.00.
30.00
2�5.00
50.00 (Prorated}
250.00 (Proratedj
50.00
75.00 Individual
150.00 Corporation, Partnership or
other Association
10.00
150.00 Individual
3Q0.00 Corporation, Partnership or
other Association
15._00 first; 5.00 ea, additional
10.00 first; 1.00 ea. additional
10.00
15.00
25.00
Code No. Sub'ect
�.
Fee
026 Mote] or Hotel
v�100.00 + 5.00 per unit
�22 Music Festival �
600.00 per day plus �
T00.00 filing fee
023 Public Dance
65.00
113 Refuse Hauling; Garbage Truck
50.00 company license + lst truck
15.00 each additional truck
216 Sauna
425.00
014 Solicitor; Peddler
50.00 per solicitor/peddler
115 Swimming Pool, Public
200.00 per outdoor pool
300.00 per indaor pool
• plus 25% of base per added pool,
5U4 within the same enclosed area.
Taxicab
45.00 company license + lst cab
�OZ 5.00 each additional cab
Theater, Drive In �
650.00
205 Townhouse Development
350.00
2�2 Trailer Home; Temporary Parkin
9 50:00 occupancy
104 25•00 temporary parking
, Tree Removal/Treatment Contractor 35,00
211 Lot Splits
100.00
214 Signs; Billboards
20.00 under 40 square feet
205 50.00 over 40 square feet
Special Use Permit 175.00 for all except;
80.00 for second accessory building
:ity Charter Vacations
Chapter 6 125.00 ,
Variances
205 $�•00
Zoning Requests
PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OFO RIDLEY THIS
�F --_______DAY
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ATTEST: -
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MARVIN C. BRUNSELL
First Reading: January 15, 1979
Second Reading:
Publish:
OR ILLI M J. NEE
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CABA REALTY FIRST ADDITION - P.S. q78-06
Items for consideration which were discussed at Public Hearing:
1. Drainage and utility easements along lot lines to ensure
access for utiTities, and for use for drainage purposes.
2. Lot dimensions must be revised to ensure minimum lot areas
of 1.5 acres for heavy industrial property.
3. Affidavit informing potential developers that the storm
water run-off rate, after development, must not be greater
than the rate before development, must be filed and record-
ed with the plat.
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State of Minnesota)
) ss.
County of Anoka )
AFFIDAVIT AND NOTICE TO PURCHASERS
being duly sworn, on the day of
1979, on oath states as follows:
1. That (he) (she) is the of the
corporation with its principal office located at
; and
2. That is the owner of tracts
of land located in Anoka County, Minnesota and legally described as follows:
Lot 1, Block 1 and Lots 1-5, Block 2,
Caba Realty First Addition
3. That the aforesaid tracts of land are intended to be utilized
for commercial and industrial development in accordance with the codes and
ordinances of the City of Fridley; and
4. That the aforesaid tracts of land are presently vacant and are
part of a storm water drainage district; and
5. That any development on the aforesaid tracts of land must en-
sure that the storm water runoff rate, after development, is not greater than
before development.
Subscribed and sworn to before me
this day of , lg�g.
CITY OF FRIDLF.Y
' PLltNNING C014QISSION MGTTING, JANUARY l0� 1979 3
Ms. Schnabel �u�gested thrst becAUSe Chairman fltarris waa absent, and Vice Chairman
Langenfeld cras due 1:o nrrive lnte� they appoint a temporary acting chairman until
Yice Chnirman Langen£eld nrrived, and sl�e mude the following motim :
M()TIOP� hy t•L. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Storla, to eppoint Mr. Peterson as temporary
action chairman until Vice Chairmsn I.angenfeld arrived,
UPON A VOICE VOTB'� ALL VOTING AYE� THE 1�,OT20N WAS CARRIED UftpNllqOUSLY.
CALL TO ORDER;
Acting Chairman Peterson called the January 10� 1979, meeting oY the Planning Co�ission
to order at 7:35 P,M.
ROLL CALL: .
Meu�.bers Present: Ned Storla� LeRoy Oquist� Virginia Schnabel� Robert Petersoa
Members Absent: Richard Harris� Jim Langenfeld (Mr, i,angenfeld arrived at 8:20 P,M.)
Others Present: Jerry Boardman, City Planner �
1. ApPROVE A�BPIDA FOR PLAPIIIING COi�inffSSION r�F,i'Ii4G: JANUARY 10, 1979:
MCri'ION by NIs, Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist to adopt the agenda as presented.
Mr. Storla stated that Item No. 9 on the agenda, the Memorandum of Agreement, had
been table@ and should not appear on the agenda until it is resoved from the table.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� ACTIPIG CHAIRMA�'V PETERSOfi DECLAR�D TF� pGERIDA ADOPTED
WIT$ THE CORRECTION.
2. APPROVE Ti� PIIANNING CODA".ISSION MINU'1'ES: DECEMgER 6� 1978:
M4TION by Mr. Oquist� seconded by Ms. Schnabel to approve the December 6� 1978 Planning
Conmiission Atinutes.
Ms. Schnabel stated that on page 6, fourth paragraph, second sentence, there should be
a correction. That sentence should read: as recommended by pppeals� instead of as
recommended by Plenning,
UPON A VOIC� VOTE� ALF, VOTING AYE� ACTIDIG CHAIRMpN PETER$ON DECI,ARED THE MINUTEg
APPROVID WITH THE CORRECTION,
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vFlt�.�� t;i u.;lti:liL A. 1�f1};R DBl"r'.LOcD'�'N'I' COiiF'ORf'�'IOi�l• L '„�---••` ••'•"•iniar
Inn..bruck North exce t that eing a replut of Outlot H,
, p part already platted as Iunsbruck North Townhouse
P1At 4� Qod part� of Innsbruck North Second and Third Addition�, generully located
North of I.694, between bfeister Rotid and the Corporate Lioiits of the City of
Fridley.
PLAPINING CON�IISSION 1�TING, JAVUARY 10, 1979 - PAGE 2 3 A
MOTION Uy Mr, Oquist, aeconded by Mr, Storla, to open the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE Vdi'�� AIS. VOTING AYE� pCTING CfIAIRMAN PETERSON DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEI4 A'P 7;45 P.M.
t�s. Boardman noted that the Public Hearing was opened for two items� the plat� and
the to�mhouses, t✓�r, Boardman stated that pn�e lF� of the agenda book shows Outlot H.
This is the 5th and final plat in t}:e City of Fridley for the Innsbruck Townhouse area.
It is located in the southeast section of tbe DArrel Fqrr plat area aud is the last
section of the Innsbruck area to be platted. Mr. Boardman showed the Co�issioners the
plans of how the area would be platted out. Mr. Boardman state3 that the initial design
taas for an eight unit structure, but h�d been changed to a six unit structure� and also
changed it into a townhouse, r�here before they were considerin� a condominium. They had
diseussed this with the Townhouse AssociAtion, and this was what the Association ��anted,
so they decided to do it this way. Mr, Soard�an stated he hed gone over this with Bob
Aldrich and there would be an emergency cross-over road for emergency vehicles. The
tennis courts would be across from the Recreation Center� which is what the people want.
Mr. Peterson stated there had been s lot of coimnent regarding tennis courts in this
area. The Darrel A. Farr Corporation had escroWed money with the City for tennis courts�
and asked i£ those were the courts.
Mr. Boardman stated thet money was not for these tennis courts� but for two additional
courts to be located somewhere by the City.
Mr. Peterson �tated the problem was that with the buildirig the Farr Corpora�ion had done
in this area� they were �etting a lot of pressure for additional tenn3s courts� and with
the asount oP building in the area� there 1T85 no land available to bui.ld the courts on.
Mr. Peterson stated he had difficulty with putting tennis courts in there if they would
�on�y be for tha townhouse people, because there are a 1ot of other people in the area
xho have purchased land from the Farr Corporation that do not have tennis courts and were
puLting pressure on �he City.
N&�. Boardman stated there was a possibility oP placing the tennis courts on the Grace
Sigh School property,
Mr. Peterson stated that Yrom the viewpoint oP the Parks and Recreation Coum�ission they
wouldn't get that. Mr. Peterson stated t•;r. Farr l�ad put a lot of houses up there a�d it
t�ras easy to give money� but what they needed was property.
Mr. Bosrdman noted that they had at least gotten the money� and regardless o£ which
development it was� they would still have a problem� because they didu't get groperty.
N,r. Boardman stated that there would be a lot of area within the complex itsel£ that
vould be outside the constructioc limits that vould be left natural. They would try
to leavc this urea as wooded as possible and as natural as possible. All of the units
would be put in aa separate, clear-cut units so they wouldn't be �oing through and
cuttind a vhole slice out as they did in the Villages. 'Phey felt thAt rras a mistake
and this time would clear out ouly enough area to build each iudividuai unit� which
xould be more expensive but uould be better for selling the units later on. Mr. Boardman
steted there would be no variances needed and Staff hrzd no problem with the wriy these
units wcre layed out. Mr. Boardman showed the Commissioners the plans of the units
which explaicied the de�ign of the unii;s� which would hAVe sepnrate blocks and lots.
PLANNII�G COM1dISSI0P1 1�:L•'TIA?G, JANU�dtY Z0, 1979 PAGE 3 3 B
Mr. Eoardn�n stated there Would be more ttuan Adequate parking sta113. When they went
in aith eight units per buildin� i,hey rorere required to have 1� purkin� ctulls per
bu3lding and they had ullowed 16 parkin� stallc per building, They then went to 6 units
per building� but did not ckuxn�3e the parkin6 plans. Al,o they had planned on a
recreational vehicle parkin� axea� tut that roay or may not remain a part of the plans�
because there wqs aome concern from other people who would uae that area.
Mr. Peterson asked if this ��ould be a separate Townhouse pssociation.
Mr.'. Boardrr�n stated it would be a part of the present Association.
�'. Oquict asked if the tennis court pear the Recreation Building was in addition to
the two courts money had �een escrowed for.
Mr. Boardman stated the tennis court near the Recreation Bui2ding was a private Association
tennis court and tbe intent was that the other two City tennis courts �+ould placed
somewhere in the area.
Mr. Oquist asked if he meant they would be p2aced in the Innsbruck area.
Mr. Boardman stated they woui.d be placed wherever they could Yind a location for them.
TheY may have to place them down by the t�loore Lake Beach area.
Mr. Peterson stated that the Parks and Recreation Co�.ission woul.d not vote fcr tbe
courts to go there, because i;hey already hsve courts on bfoore I,ake and the people in
Innsbruck want them zn Innsbruck.
Mr. Boardman gave the Co�,issioners a letter from the DTorth Innsbx�:ck Townhouse Asso-
ci.ation� and noted that in the preliminary discussions� the Association approved of
the general plans.
Mr. Thomas Johnson of the Darrel A. Farr Corporation came forcrard and made the following
presentation. Dir. Johnson showed the Coffiissioners an artists drawing of the townl�ouse
structure. There would be 6 units per building, They would try to use the topography
as it exists� leaving green areas. The buildings were designed with the topograplty in
mind, They started out in the early 1970�s with an spproved plan unit development for
850 units in the Innsbruck North complex. Phase I wac 102 townhouses, ?hase II was the
Black Forest with 258 units apartment buildino, Phase I?I �,as the 56 Vienna units,
Phase N was the 46 privacy units on the extreme south end of the complex, and the Phase V
with 96 Villsge units, for a total of 558 units and the proposed plat for the 5th f,ddition
would have 78 units, for a total of 636 which is 214 units less tl�an the approved PUD,
The 5th Addition would 'ue named Foutain Oaks� but at this tiz�e they will refer to it as
Pl.at 5. There would be j8 townhouses cn 9.1 acres with 124 covered parking Flaces and
104 uncovered places which �eans every other resident coul.d have tz:o garages. They have
more than ctdequate�y provided for o:f-street :�arking and sara�es. Regarding green areas�
they not only provided large green area� on the perimeter but xould be leaving small
areas in the groupings of buildings. They believe they cran develop the area and leave
t2�ose areas natural with the oak trees and also provide such natural amenities es rock
gardens� benches and tables. They Would also hAVe a portion of the area for traiZs which
would adjoin existing trails in the other additions� for a total of about 2 1�2 miles of
trails. These trails would also connect with the City trails.
PLAYNING CO;rMISS70N MF.�TTNG, J/l2iUltRY 10, 1979 pqrE 4
� 3C
Mr. Johnson eontiuued and stated tl�ey would hnve 7£3 total unite, 39 of which would
bo ca2led L' unitc which Would have one bedroom with u loft� selling for �45,qpp to
$47,Soo. The C unit3 would have two bedrooms nnd txo otories und would sell for
$59,5� to w63,000. The B units s�uuld have one bedro�m with a sitting aren and would
oeil for �46,500 to �48,500. They did people studicc and determined there would be
2•9 People per toimhouse. With 54 privacy units that would total 156 people. Their
experience indicates that toFmhouses aith 2�3rds 1 bed:oom units should develop about
1.5 people. With 78 units that would eguai cbout 117 people. Therefore t�ey didn't
feel they vould te generating a lot of additional people which would cause traf£ic
or amenity problems. With 78 units with 1.3 bedrooms the total would be about 94 to
96 people. Mr. Johnson stated tbey vere a HOW builder (Homeowners Waranty) and
were concerned about m�intenance on the new buildings. Plat 5 would have 63,250 square
feet of blacktop which would be private streets u,aintained by the Association. Plat
5 would have 13 buildir.� with a ground cover of 42�300 square feet. The lawn area to
be maintained would be 80,000 sq�re feet. IIecause they can cut the buildings into the
natural contour and individually grade each buildfng they Hould have 75�000 sauare feet
of ground cover and end up with 120,000 square feet of lawn area to be maintaine3.
With this proposal there wou].d be almost twice as much roofing and siding naintenance
as there would have been with the original proposal. The target date for completion
would be mid-19Fj1. With this proposal they would leave k3i$ o£ the plat undisturbed.
Mr. Storla asked where the park trails would lead into the city trails.
Mr. Johnson stated thers were traiZs �.n the area called the Yillages which went around
the Black Forest and connected up with.City trails in the park. They would be black
iop trails.
t+�. Storla asked where the tennis courts would �o, if this srea was platted as proposed.
Mr. Boaxdman stated they could go in the City park property behind the Black Forest,
�but they would then become anartment tannis courts. Another alternative wes the Farr
Lake area, but that would disturb tHe passive lake area. Another alternative would be
the woaled property behind Grace High Scbool or on the property by the closed elementary
school.
Mr. Storla asked if xll the people in the area belonged to one association.
Mr. Boardman st-ated there were two associations: The Townhouse Association and the
Villages Association.
Mr. Oquist asked if there would be a�y drainage problems from the surYaced areas.
Mr. Johnson stated that when they had previously platted this area, it was taken before
the Rice Creek Wntershed people. They are on the agenda, but feel this could be
handled at the Staff level Uecause it was approved twice before and there wou].d be less
drainage because there would be less blacktop than in the other sites. They feel there
trould be no problem.
Tfs, Schnabel aslced iP there would be a formal plan for wnter retention and runoPf.
A7r• Boardman stated they had a Pormal plun end there would be several retention basins �
and a pouding area.
PLANtiINC COMtdISSIO?l h1[�TING, JAN[JARY 10, 197j PAGI' S
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Ms. Schnabel atated ekie was concerned r�bout thc landscapine. In the luat development
of tcwnhousee� tkiey vere a�eured that the retention of the trees wac s strong selling
potnt, bui; aa the development proceeded, a].moct every tree wae tal:en down.
Mr. Farr stated thrat the di�cucsion et that point in time was one of degree. Iiow mr,ny
trees could they �ave with the 96 townhouse units vereus how many coul.d they oave with
the 251 apartment units. It wAS a relative discussion in which they stated thcy could
save more trees with the towohouses whicli they did, Thcy are few in number and xould
have been non-ex3stent if they Had built the 251 units. The City has on file a cut
and fill map that was submitted with the 251 iuiit plan in 1972. They also have the
cut und fill map that uas submitted ��hen they built tae 96 townhouse units. There are
more trees there now than there would have been if they had built the 251 unit apartment
building, As far as �he landscaping ;aes concerned, they presented the lan3scaping plan
to the City and to the single family l�omeo•.mers i�i the area, and also to the VA and FHA,
and t�at plan nas been complied with to the lei,ter.
Ms. Scfinabel asked if they were in the process of p3anting new trees in the area.
Mr. Farr stated they had planted over 120 trees so far.
Ms. Schttabel asked what their intention was regarding the new development� if they aould
have a landscaping plan for that.
Mr. Farr stated they felt they could save a lot more trees in this development because of
the pl�ysical character of the grouud. They would cut in the streets and as they build
a buildin6i they would excavate it like a house. The structures would not be much bigger
tl�an a house, the outside dimensions srould be about 54 x 52. They expect to save a lot
oY the naturak cover. To the extent that they disturb the nstural cuverj they would plant
trees and shrubs in accordance with what they have done in the balance of Innsbruck.
Ms. Schnabel stated that was why she was concerned. Sbe felt that the land in the area
o£ the Villa�es was rsped and was ecncerned that it not I�appen again� and would like a
formal plr,n.
Mr. Boardman �tated tbey would bave construction limits� wtuch would mean they could not
go dig sonewhere else, they could only dig up the amount of land necessary to excavate
each building,
Mr. Johnson stated that planned to leave 43p of the area in its natural form.
Ms. Schnabel asked if they intended to put in a swi�uing pool.
Mr. Farr stated that had been dropped fY�om the ori�inal plan.
Ms. Schnabel asked if a pool were included� who would be using it.
Mr. Ferr stated it would be for the North Innsbruck Townhouse Association people.
Ms. Schnubel mentioned that Mr, Jolmson, in his presentation� had mentioned a II unit,
n C unit and nn E unit. She asked if there was a D unit� which she Had noticed on the
plan.
Mr. Johnson ctated the D unit wauid be the same as the C unit.
PLAPTNING COP�PIISSION MEETIN',;, SANUARY 10, 1979 - ' PAGE 6 3 E
Mu. Schnabel read the letter from the Nortl� Innsbruck Townhouse Association which
was addreosed to the Darrel A. Fnrr Development Corporation. '1'he letter was as
Yollows: llear Mr. I�urr, ihe memters of the Iiin:,bruck North Townhou3e Association
Board of Directors hus infornu�lly considered your revision presented January 3, 1979
of the replettina of the 5th Addition. The plan for 13 townhousr: structures with 6
unfts per structure ic in gene:sl acceptable. A final decision must be reserved
until npecification� for the revised replat have been obtained and reviewed. A
written agreement between your Corporation �nd Innsbruck North Townhouse Association
apecifyin6 the actual plan�, the amenitiec� and a meaningful working agreement during
the development of the 5th Addition will be necessary for £inal approval. .We appreciate
your willingnecs to accomalate our needs in your revised plan and see no reason why
such an egreement should not be obtainable by mid-February. Sincerely� Elaine Hun¢nel�
Vice President, Innabruck i�orth Townhouse Association. A carbon copy to Richard Peterson�
snd the City of Pridley.
N,OTTOPI by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by i�x+, pquist, that the letter from the Innsbruck
I�orth iownhouse Association be received into the record.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTI�TG AYE� ACTING CAAIRMAN PETERSON DECLARED TF� MOTION CF�R�IED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Stephen Tollison, 553$ �ister Road, came forwarc3 and stated he rras a member o£ the
Board oY Directors of the Innsbruck North Townhouse Association. Mr. Tol.lison stated
that a monthl,y newsletter m-as printed by the Association. A newsletter wa� distributed
].ast Saturday to 160 nembers oS the Association. In that newsletter they mentioned the
proposed replat of Plat 5. At that time there was still a quzstion as to �ahether there
would be condominiums or townhouses. In the neksletter� they asked the sembers to call
e me�cber of the Board oP Directors if they had a�y commeni;s, N.r. Tollison alone received
22 phone calls from members of the Association who were willing to come to this meeting
of the Planning Couimission. After the newsletter was issued, the decision to go with
townhouses and a general agreement regarding structure and desi�n had been reached. The
other things the members were concerned about were•i;he tennis courts and pool. The
pool was ir.cluded in the plans presente3 to the Board o£ Directors. The people xere also
concerned ebout the green areas and the trees and had the same comraents N,s. Schnabel had
voiced at this meeting. The residents were concerned about the numbers of trees lost in
the Villages. Mr. Tollison stated that as far as recreational facilities were concerned�
they had only 1 poo2 and 1 tennis court. With the addition of over 100 familiec, there
must be provisionc for �ore tennis courts. The existing tenuis court :ias not even �een
fiaished yet. When P1At 4 was platted, there �.•ere to be three tennic courts for the
Association people to use. At this time there was only one court, Which was unfinished,
erid the other two have not beer. started. There has to be a provision i'or a:peci£ic
location for.the other two courts, As it stated iu the letter� everythin� must have a
timetable and be written explieitly. Regarding the green areas�.they woul@ like to know
exactly �ahich trees will be saved and which will be ]:ost. They have to re�y on the City
in this. They are happier with thts proposal than they were with the original proposal.
btr. Tollison state3 that when construction is ca-npleted and Mr, Farr would be gune, the
Aasocietion would be left and they vere concerned thAt things should be done proper�y
so �Chey would not be left with problems.
Mr. Peterson stated tiwt it should be noted thst the Farr Corporation had prior plans
and it was b1r. Farr's property shich he hrid the right to develop. If they had gone
with apsri;ments rather than Villsges there would have been no trees.
PLATdIiIPN; COMMISSION 1dEE`MNG� JANUAFtY 10, 1979 � PAGF 7
Mr. Jamea Pries, 5j45 E. Bavarian Pass came fox�ward and stnted he was a2so a member
of the IIoard. Mr, Yriee stated he agreed with 1+[r. Tollison's statements and slso
with the letter £rom the Aa3ocintion. Mr. Pries stated thnt before they reach an
agreement� they would like mnre time to reviei+ the Proposal and would like tlre
specifications in writing. I�u•, Prieo stnted tiiat they view the Asaocietion as s
busines,, and that when the developer leaves� everything is tt�eir responsibility.
Mr. Pries acY,ed the Comuiissioners for their support in reaching an agreement with
the Darrel A. Farr Corporation.
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Ms. Schnabel asked when this item would go to Council if it was approved by the Planning
Co�isbion at this meetin�.
Mr. Boardman stated it would go to Council on January 22nd.. At that meeting� Council
would cet a date for the public hearing, February 12th� and would be acted on by the
Council on I'ebruary 26th. After that there would be the Pirst and second reading of the
plats� so the project woul.dn't be approved ewtil the end of tarch.
Mr. Peterson noted tl�t there would be another meeting of the Planning Commission fn
two weeks and if the Planning Coamiiesion waited until that r�eeting to act on this� it
vould give the Corporation and the Association two weeks to reach an agreement without
upsetting the timetable too much.
Mr. Boardman stated it would set the City Council public hearing back until March.
Mr. Peterson asked Mr. Farr what his starting date h�as.
Rrc. Farr stated that when they raet with the Board of Directors of tbe Association� they
suggested to the Board� after conversations �ith the City Staff, that Council would
act on this 30 days after the ?lanning Co�ission meeting. They suggested to the Board
that the considerations to be taorked out could be woz•ked out during the 30 dqy peric,d
bet�+een the Planning Co�nission meeting and the City Council u,eeting. N,r, Fcrr suggested
that tbe Planning Coff�ission �ive their a�proval with the stipulation that the Townhouse
Associaticn and the Darrel A. Farr Corporation reach an agreement prior to the City
Council meeting. Mr, Farr stated he felt some of the problems could be resolved right
now� like the tennis courts� and otbers would l�ave to be discussed and negotiated.
Mr. Peterscn stated� as Chairsan of the Parks and Recrestion Conmis'sion, he was concerned
about the tennis courts. If they took the e:,crc,wed money from the Darrel A. Farr Corp-
oration and put two tennis courts oa b;oore I,ake� people would be very upset. Mr.
Peterson stated the City was also to blame for the situation� that money was escrowed
for tennis courts with no place to put them.
Tir. Fnrr stated they had agreed to provide three tennis courts. The first tennis court
was in the existing bome of the Association area. Ttie agreement was that this court be
conctructed after they had constructed 20 homes in the 4th Addition. g�h3t had Ueen done.
The development agxeement for the Innsbruck Villages provided that they would pay for
two tennis courts at a location to be determined by tbe City of FY�idley. That was to
be done after they had sold 40 Village units. They Lave been ready to build the tennis
cnurts since 1977• When the Cii;y tells them where tl�ey want them� they *aill build them,
Mr. Peterson reiterAted that the C3ty was as much.to blame as the Darrel A. Farr
Corporation.
t�. Tollison reiteroted that with more people coming in� the present resideni;s Would
be upsct unlcss provisions were mnde for additionAl recreaLional £�cilities in the
form of A pool or tennic courts.
PLAAlNI11G COi�;4I5SI0N t�tiTING, JANUARY 10, 1�79 , • PAGE 8- 3 �
Mr. Toliicon al�o 3i�ated they were also concerned about a beginning and an ending
8ate. 'Pir�e frumec were very important.
Na�. Lsngenfeld stated he was corry to be late and acked if the question of dreinage
had been di�cussed.
Mr. Peterson stated that drainage had been discussed. The Rice Creek Watershed people
had not yet given their approval, but no problems were anticipated. There would be
adequate ponding areas and retention basins.
Ma. Schnabel asked Wbat tha width oY tfle streets doing through the development would
be.
Mr. Farr stated the streets would be 30 £eet wide and there would be no psrking on the
streets. There would be three off-street parking spaces per unit.
Ms. Schnabel asked if these spaces would be the actual entrances to the garages.
bfr. Johnson stated that was correct.
Mr. Stoxla asked what the interior dimensions would be for the smallest unit.
Mr. Johuson stated that the interior 13ving space in the smallest unit would be 850 square
Yeet including the loft� which is the bedroom.
Mr. Boardman ststed that met the code. ,
MOTION by Mr. I,nngeafeld, seconded by Ms, Schnabel to close the public uearing.
lSPOi•i A l�OICE VQTE� ALL VO`PIA;G AYE� AClI^IG CAAIRbiAN PETERSON DECLAR�D T� PUBLIC I�ARING
CIASED AT 9:16 P,M.
t�TION by Mr. Oquist, to recommend to Council approval oP th� consideration of a pro-
posed preliminary plat, P.S. ;�78-07, Innsbruck North Townhouse Plat 5� and a Townhouse
development, T-7u78-01� Fountain Oaks� by Darrel A. Farr Development Corporation: Being
s replat of Outlot H, Innsbruck.North, except that part �already platted es Inr.sbruck
North� Second and Third Addition�� general]�• located North of 2.694, between N,eister
Road and the Corporate Limits of the City o£ Fridley� witb the stipulation that a
memorandum of agreement be reached bet:aeen the Darrel A. Farr Developu�ent Corporation
ancl the Innsbruck North Townhouse Association, prior to action by the City Council.
Mr. Storla stated he would like a better understanding of what the agreement would
encowpass. .
Mr. Peterson ctated the request wtis tl�at there be an agreement between the Townhouse
Association and the Dnrrel A. Farr Development Corporation� and the Planning Commissions
spproval would be based on them reaching an agreement.
Mr. Oquist pointed out that if their concerns were not covered� there caould not be aqy
agreement.
Ms. Schnabel atated she would like the motion to state that if sn agreement was not
reached� the Pluuning Co�ission would not give their approvul.
PLATiNING COt�4ISSIUN 14'�TTING� JANTIAI?Y 10, 1979 paGE g 3 u
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Motlon died for lack of a cecond. ' •
MdfION by tda. Schnabel, seconded b;/ tQr. Oquist, to reco:nmend to Council upproval oP
Con3iderntion of a proposed preliminary plat, P.S. ��7f3-07, Innsbruck North Townhouse
Plat 5, and a townhouse developmcnt� T-�78-01� P'ountain Oaks, by Darrel A. Farr Develop-
ment Corporation: Eeing a replat of Oui:lot H� Innsbruck Pdorth� er.cept thAt pArt alreAdy
platted as Inr,sbruck North Tormhouce Plat 4, and parts of Innsbruck North Second an3
Thfrd Additiono, generally located north of I.6�4� between D;eister Road and the Corporate
Limit3 of the City Of Fridley� with the sti�ulati.on thnt a:nemorandum of a;;reement be
rectched and si�;ned by the Inncbruck iiorth '1'o*,mhouce �,a;ociation nnd the D�rre1 A. H'arr
Leveto�menr, t;orvoration. 1n the event th
would be :eturned to L'he °l:nnin,� Corc�!i:,s
Follo�rind, stiutitutiuuc uere al.so i:.r_lw;ed
noise nrcblc^�s similia: to thc th Addit�.
DiStrict. 3 Per�'orrar.ce Bond fer tae exi
1'he uslkw3-;�s be cc��leied and li;iited�
and all oti,er easemeni;s i'or r:alizna;/s ia a
a timet3ble to be set.
L i;0°S OI] 'GO t. °
vits b� filed s;i
o�:�l oi' t;,� i'.ice
n.^.:ent re olac�d
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Mr. Lan�en£eld stated he was concerned about the environmental aspects of the development
and would �ssume that the Association would take all tnose itens into consideration. Mr.
Lanoeni'eld stated he wished they had the Interium Agreement type of ordinance, h;r.
Langenfeld stated that tHey had rade a tour of t�e area and had found drai�age problems
in other areas. The Interium Ordinance being considered by the City Coi;ncil would insure
that be£ore ax�y development takes place, proyer measures would te taken to insure that
there not be any environmental impact to the area.
btr. Peterson stated that the fact that they had ma3e the stipulat?on that the Rice
Creek Wate^shed peoole give their approval of the development wou13 make him feel very
co:nPortoble. They t�ave the exnertise and en�ineering background an3 if they agree that
there would be no adverse effect to the environment� he would feel comfortable.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTIA*G AYE� ACTING CEAIRtdAPI PETr.iiSON DECLARED THE MOTIOY CARRIED
i7NAPiIMOUSLY.
Mr. Peterson stated that a timetable was set, the members of the Association Board had
heerd the motion with the stipulations, had seen the concern of t�e Co�mni.ssionzrs and
the Developer� and hoped thst through the StafP and their negotiations everything would
be agreed upon and if not� M;. Schnabel's motion �aas that it be brougtlt back to the
Planning Commission.
Mr. Tollison thanked the Co�maissioners.
Mr. Peterson turned the chairman over to Vice Chairman Langenfeld.
�F. VACATION RE(�UEST, gAV ;;�78-OS, VIfCI;CG
AND DLVELOnx�;� C0�'?'APIY; Vacate
uuc I.qDCllll:114 a Vi' ui'tllnct�e E1nQ UT�111i.1CS tI13t Wti5 i'C''tE11II2C1 Sd�1CI1 Gumwood Streeti WIIS
vacated (SAV ,-kj8-12, FIouser), except that part uetually needed by i;he utility
comnanies, deceribed as follows: The easement lying between Block 5 and Blocic 6,
Onaw�ay Addition, and bounded on the North by the Westerla� exteneion of the North
line of Slocic 6� OnawAy Additioo� and bounded on the South by the Westerly extension
of the South 11ne of Lot 11� �lock 6, Onaway Additi�n� to ullow the enclo.,ure of a
storage dock ut 77�0 neech Street N.E.
PLAT1NIiJC COfR.tISSION M[:BTING, JATtUARY 10, )979 PAGE 11
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Mr. Earl Sohn3un, Genernl Mina�er of Viking Engineerinb Development Corporution came
forwc,rd and ctated that Gu.rowoat w&s a j0 foot �treet that was vacuted. At ttwt time�
Pqske wan the builder at that time and he put in u dock that did u�e 25 Peet. The
fir�t requect they would make wo�il.d be for a vrariance for setback. The reason they
xant to cover the loading dock was that tliey hrave a problem in the winter with snow
and 1ce. They make rx heavy piece of equipment c�nd loadin6 is almost imposslUle.
Mr. Eoardman indicated to them that the utilitie� had not been vacated and much to
their aurprise were under the dock arect coneidering the occupancy permit rendered on
their property. However th�t would be OK. Mr. Johnson stated tbat the telepHone
company had indicated in their letter that� re�arding the cable under the dock� they
Hould be re^,ponsible for any expense involved. Putting a cover on top of the dock
would not change that at all. The power compa�y was concerned s little about where
the power comee iuto their building. It comes into the xall and they have a netal
building� so they would need a certain a;�ount of footage between the metal to have a
ground. The most logical thing would be to extend the m,ast for the entry. Their
pole would not effect them in any way� because it was located mid-way on the 25 feet.
The gae company and Cable TV i,ndicated no concern. MinnigasCo was concerned nbout
lot 6 and lot 7. They own lots 6, 7, 8, and 9. Lots 8 and 9 are the�.r parking area.
Mr. Peterson asked Mr. Johnson if they were still planning on building the cover on],y
14 feet high.
Mr. Johnson stated lb feet would be sufficient, because the truck does not come into
that area� they only use the dock to bring the product to the truck. •
Mr. I,angenPeld asked if the access was north and south of Gumwood.
Mr. Boardman stated the access was off of Beech'Street.
i•�ION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to reco�end to Council approval of the
Vacation Request, sav �78_05, Viking Engineering and Development Company; Vacate the
easement Por drainage and utilities that was retained when Gumwood Street was vacated
(SAV #73-12, Houser)� e�ccept that part actual�y neede3 by the utility companies�
descxibed as follows: The ease�ent lying between Block 5 and Block 6� Onaway Addition�
and bounded on the North by the Westerly extension of the North line of Slock 6, Onaway
Addition� and bounded cn the South by the iaester],y extension oP the South line of Lot 11,
Block 6, Onaway Addition, to allow the enclosure of a storage dock at 7740 Beech Street NE.,
with the stinulation that by the tiue the reouest �c�s to City Council� all the
necessary do u.*rent� �,re received ii�� the utili�y- comoanies indicatin�; the esact location
of the easements needed an3 also Lne stipulatiu n that anproval fcr the nec°ssr,ry
variances ere receive3 fm�„ +n,A n,,.,.�.,i.. n..__<,.____
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTInrG AYE� VICE CAAIRb1AN LANGENFELD DECLARID THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIR:OUSLY.
Afr. Johnson thanked the Commissioners.
Ms. Schnabel stated thut the Appeals Commission had tabled this item and it was not
on the a�enda for the naxt meeting.
Mr. Boardman stated he would see about getting it on the agenda.
PLANNI2dC COMMISSIOII M[:F,�fIPIG .7APIU/tRY 10, 1979 - PAGF 12
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Vice Chairman Lrangenfeld declared a recess at 9:�+5 and reconvened the meeting at
10:00 P.Id.
5. RF.CE7.VI: �PNIRO'f1�iGPiT�L �Lr�LITY COt�.;4iS5TOrt trt7NtrrRS• n�n�rn�.rr2 m io�A.
: �pages
Hi0TI0N by �r. Peterson, seconded ty Ms. Schnabel to receive the November 21� 1978,
Environmental Quality Co:mnission minutea.
Ms. Schnabel asked what the term "awau �roup" meant on pa�;e 6 oi the minutes.
Mr. LangenYeld stated that was a slang expression meanin� one vrith superior knrn+ledge
and qualities to sake proper decisions.
Mr. Langer.feld asked if N's. Boardman Nas aware if tiie City Council had directed the
city attorney to take legal means to prevent any status change of the airport as
requested on page 4 oY the minutes. �
Ns. Boardsaa stated he did not lm ow.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the secon3 paragraph on page 7 and the second paragraph on
page 8 were the key paragraphs regarding the discussion on the airport.
Mr. Boardman asked what was meant by the state�eent "The Enviroamental Impact Statement
was hired by D7AC as another step toward that implementation."
Mr. Peterson stated he understoa? that to mean that the MAC had hired a firm to make an
environmental impact statemettt.
Mr. Boardnan asked if they weren't required by the Federal Government to do that.
Ms. Schnabel stated they were if they were going to c'azange the airport from a minor to
an interme3iate. So that statement means they are pianning to da that or else they
vould not have hired sa�neone to do an environmental impact statement.
Mr. Boardman asY,ed if their intent all along Has to make it an intermediate airport.
M['. I,t.t9ngenfeld stated the MnUOT''&lan had been compiled.,and was vague. They seem to be doin�
things in stages, such ae putting in more lighting� more controlls in the tower� etc.
and this is what the Comtaission wss concerned about. They wouid like to see the :daster
Plan.
Mr. Lsngenfeld asked Mr. Boardman, regarding several motions in the mim�tes tlxat the
Chairman write letters to various people� iP that was within the scope of the Cheir-
person to do that.
Mr. Boardman stated that a�y letter which s�ates an opinion or takes a stand should
have upproval of the City Council. Letters seeking adviee or information would be
ao problem.
Mr. I,sngenfeld nsked� regarding the motion on page 9� if the Council had done ai�ything
regarding thnt motion� and if the motions should be directed to the Planning Coimuission
also,
PLANNIr,G C01!MIS::ION 1+�GiI1JG, JANUARY 10, i979 PAGE 13 3 L
Mr. Peteraon ctated he fclt that the action in thnt particulrsr motion woul.d be out
oS order, becsuse the direct reportin� ruute would b� the sub-coum�iecion to the
Planning Conniscion to the City Council, and no comnds�;ion would have the authority
to 6o directly to ony other governiuental body stating a position.
Mr. Langenfeld nsked if ar�y commiscion could by-pass the Plenning Co�ission� and make
a motion directly to the City Council.
Mr. Boardman stated that all of their motions were directed to tbe City Council� those
motions appear before the Planning Cormnission because of the review process. IP the
Plannin� Cc�nission feels the �otion effects the comprehensive plan or the policies
that had been established� it could act� but would not have to.
hlr. Peterson stated that he 4rould consider the motion on page 8 regarding the M.P.C.A
to be out of or•der becauae there the Comnission was taking direct action without
approval of the City Council.
Mr. Langenfeld stated he was glad he brought the issue up and had it cleared up.
Ns. Boardman stated the motion on page 5 regarding New Brighton would also be considered
out of order.
�
Mr. Lringenfeld stated the second para�raph on page 10 vas of interest and the Commissioners
should read it.
Mr. Iangenfeld asked if the City had done anything regarding recreational vehicles as
discussed on page 12.
N�r. Peterson stated that Bob Sbore had purchased that property and the City had an
agree:nen� with them similiar to the one they had last year with Sears� allowing them
to use the property for recreational vehicles� until he develoues it.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the_word organizstion on page 13� the first paragraph� the
first sentence should be changed to read "collection - re-cycling center".
UPON A��OICL VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VIC^n CH/IIRIVfAN LANGEI�'ELD DECLARED TFE i�fOTION CARRIED
UNAIJIMOUSLY.
§. (A� PURCHASE OF TAPF RECORDER FOR COhi�TSSIOh USE: PAGES 10 and 11:
Mr. Lat�en£eld stated the Environmenal Quality Counnission would like to purchase a
tape xecorder in order to tape such things as the City Council meeting over the tdnDOT
Plan� etc. The Cov�ission thought other com,missions might be interested in sharing it.
Ms. Schnabel stated that the Appeals Co�nission would not be interested.
Mr. Storla stated his Commis�ion had not discusced a need for cne recently, but felt
it was a reasonable request� to kave a tape recorder available to the Comniscions.
Mr. I.angenfe�.d asked if they would be allowed to purchase one with their budget money.
Alr. Bot�rdman stated they were allowed� but it would have to be approved by the City •
Council.
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PLANNINC CUMMISSION MGETIN^v, JANUARY 10, 1979 PAGE 14 3 M
Mr. Peterson ebnted the P�arks And Recreation Connnission hed not dincusaed this� but
personrilly felt ttwt Commissiona would be �etLing f�r Afield Ly t�pi.ng all kinda oP
public meetinge becsuce in the firsi; place 1t would be eetting a precedent and in the
second place� he could not cee where the information would be used, because who was
going to set and listen to A i'oun c�ur tape. A1], public meetings were supposed to
have minutes and they could request the minutes. The official te�timony o£ a public
meeting would be the minutes, not a tape of the meeting.
6. RECEIVF. PARICS qIdD RrCRL'ATION COI��ISSIOP7 MINU9BS: NOVENIDER 27� i978:
TZ?TION t�y Mr, Peterson, seconded by P4s. Schnabel to receive the November 27� 1978�
minutes of the Par;cs and �ecreation Ccmmission. •
Mr. Peterson stated the Parks ar.d Recreatio n Comroissi:on had voted to go to six meetings
a year with the option to schedule special meetin�s. The meetinga had been scheduled
to occur just before a new activity or season begins.
UP6N A VOICE �IOTE� ALI, ppTIPTG AYE� VICE CHAIRMAN LANGENFELD DECLARED THE NqTION CARRIID
UNANIAIOIISLY,
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7. RECEIVE APpEpLS COP+IMISSION MINiJZ�S: D�CEb,BER 12� 1978:
MOfiION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by N¢�, Peterson to receive the December 12� 1978�
minutee of the Appeals Cormnission. �
Ms. Schnabel noted that the bottom of page 5 and the top of page 6 covers a discussion
of a letter frcm Virgil Herrick. This item was discussed in depth at the next meeting�
December 26� 1978. N,s. Schnabel also stAted they would be discu�sing the zoninb
ordinance changes at the January 16, 197� meeting of the Appeals Co�,mission.
UPON A VO�CE VOTE, pLT, VOTING AYE� VICE CHAIRI�AN LAl�*GE rj�'gj,� D�CS.lsRFD ,� r�p�,20N CARRIID
UNANINAUSLY.
8. RECEIVE ENVIROPTh�,T;TAL �UALITY COt•�ffSSI0I7 MINU'IES; DECEN.BER 19 � 9'78:
MOTION by Df�, Schnabel� seconded by Mr. Peterson to receive the December 19� 1978,
minutes of the Environmental Quality Comniscion. �
2dr. I.angenYeld stated he �aas not able to attend that meeting.
Mr. Peterson asked who Mr. Perez was.
Mr. Langenfeld stated Mr. Perez was a menber of the New Brighton Environmental Coimnission,
and also on the M. P, C. A.
Mr. Peterson stated he was concerned with Mr. Perez's statement on the bottom of the
first page� and was concerned because the Comraission does not i�ave the authority to
do that.
Mr. Lan3enfeld noted that the Commission had discussed having the words "Draft Subject
to Fintxl Approval" on the first page of the minut�s.
£LAidPdIIiC CONt�ISSION i•1I�T;TINC, JANtJ,1RY 10, 1979 � PAGF 15
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Mr. Isonrcimnn ci:ated thut the minutes of a meeting ure ofPicial minutea, and are
autject to chAnge, but the cYwru�es are official alco� therefom they could not
dU that. .
Ids. Schnabel stated she felt that if corrcetions bring about 3ubstantive chart�es of
the proceeding of the meetings� they ahovl3 not be allowed.
rfx'• Bottrd�,an stated tnere could be problems in what wae heard by the public and what
was in the minutes� and thoee type of changes could change the content.
2fs. Langenfeld brought the attention oP the Commiscioners to the motion on page 6�
where they hcive him ��ritin� more letters.
Mr. Boarlm.an stated tY�at as Chairperson� PFS. I,angenfeld had the authority to say no
to these mottons.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE CHAIRMAN LE1tdGENFGLD DECLAPED THE D,pTION CARRIID
UNANII•iOUSLY.
�. RECEIVE; pP_pEqLS COI�f+IISSIOi+T MCNUFES: D�CEPIB�,R 2f 1978:
190TIOPt by i�:s. �Schnabel, seconded by bir, Peterson� to receive the December 26� 1978,
minutes of the Appeals Commission.
Ms. Schnabel stated that pages 5, 6 and 7 of the minutes covered a discussion regarding
a memo received fros CounciL This memo was a research datir� back to the 196p, covering
all actions taken regardin� lots less than 50 feet. There was a regvest to put a new
struc�ure on a��0 foot lot. Included with that memo was a copy of a letter from tne
city.aitorney to a m.-ember of Staff regarding that requzst. The Appeals Commission felt
that there were two conflicting point that had been madz ��; the tine the Co�mission heard
the request. A motion was made telling Council that Appeals would be i�illing to re-
consider thi� requect if tne Ccuncil taanted them to� and if they didn't want them to�
Council coutd �o ahead and hsndle it, when the 90 days were up. 2•;s, �chuabel stiated
she had noted at the January 8th City Council meeting� the Ccn,mcil had requested the
item be returned to the �card of Appeals for action. It did come to li„ht, that the
Appeals Commission felt it was given erroneous inforc�tion. Ms. Sehnabel felt this
would cause a vary di£ficult situation with regards to the people in tHat neighborhoal.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, p,LI, VOSING AYE� VICE CHAIRMAid LANGENFELD DECLAIiED THE MOTION CARRIED
IRdANS1�".OUSLY.
10. RECEIVE ENERGY PROJ�CT C�rII�ffT'PEE MINUPES: DECEbBER 13� 197f3;
MOTION by Mr, Storla, secorided Uy Ns. Scunsbel� to r�ceive the December 13� 1978,
minutes of the Energy Project Conmittee.
Nfr. Peterson aoted thni; Mr..Langenfeld tisd been elected cl�airmmn of the Coum�ittee.
Dh'. Lcinaenfeld stated he appointed a vice chairman� aud on the Zast page of the minutes�
they invited Afr, Hr�rris ta stay on the Commission.
Mr. LangenSeld stated the minutes contained a lot of vital infonmtion And mentioned
that� as dicctt.^,sed on pr�ge b� they uould like to obtaiu some pamphlets� in particular�
"Key to Comfort",
Mr. IIoArda�an stated he xould look into getting them, '
r�rrzrra, ,TAP�IUARY
PAGE 16 3 O
Mr. Lsn�enfeld bro��;ht to Nu•. Boardmun�s attention tl�e motion on the bottom of page
7 requeetin� ctai'f to compile informntion regarding tkie inerease in den�and of
Co�nercial and Industrial Sales bei;ween the yeArs 1976 a ixl 1977,
Mr. Peterson noted that a lot of new construction had taken pince during that �erial.
N�'. Tangenfe2d mentioned the £act that this Corr�ittee Nould terminate in June.
UPOiV A VOICL�' VOT:.� ALI, VOTING AYL�'� VICE CHAIRbiqpl L�1I3GEPIFE',LD DECI,�'1RED TI$, MOTION CldRRIED
UIIANIMOUSLY. .
11. CCNTINUED; h�EN.ORAND[TM OF AGREFD�r;g';
Ms. Schnabel stated this item had been tabled and the Co�ission had made the corr.ection
at the beginnin� of the meeting.
12. CQNTINUED: PRppOSL'n CN_ANCF.,S TO CAAPTE'ti 205• Z0;3IPlG;
bKYI'ION by N?s. Schnabel, seconded by Mr, Peterson to continue the proposed changes to
Chapter 205. Zoning,
�
UPON A VOICE VOTE, qLL VOTISIG AYE� VICE CFIAIRb:qPI r,AI�TG�I�ELD DECLARED THE N,0'PION CARRIEp
UNANIb10USLY.
13. arF� svsirrsss:
Na'. Langenfeld stated he had received a letter from the Charter Co�ission and asked
if the other Corunissioners had received it.
The other Commissioners stated that had received it.
Mr. Langenfeld stated he did not represent tti�s Coimnission and had asked if they would
delay action so that Planning could act and send recommendations to the Charter Co.�ission.
The Charter Commission meets the first Tuesday of the month ahd there was no problem
in that respect and asked i: the Co�issioners would like to provide recc�endations to
the Charter Coumiission regarding these items. I�h�, I,argenfeld ctated he had alreacZy
given his com�nents as a citizen.
Mr. Petexson stated he had also contributed his comments and recommendations both as
e citizen and as Chr.irman of the Parks and Recreation Commission. He did not speak
Por the Cormaission but only for himself as Chairman.
Ms. Schnabel stAted she he�d also contributed her recommendations.
Mr. Storla stated he had not received it until yesterday and was too late to send a
letter� but wouid let them know,
AS�'. Lan�enfeld stated the Charter Cocuci.ssxon had two openin�,s.
Air. Etoai3mun stated that the City Council had hired a consultant for the Do�antoirn
ReviLili::Ation. They did hire Professional Plannin� und DeveloF�pent. They have
signed th�� eunti•acts� c,nd i,hey would be�in work on Junueary 15, 1�79,
PJ.�,rrr�zrr� C01•�%�l��IQIJ M!?1;'I`.l'NG, .rnrnJnrY �o, 19'j� PACP 17
� 3P
14�. �chuabel ncleed if tlie Cit;y Council 2�ad tal;en any,nciion ro�urdin� i:he Plnnning
Commiocion'c recoimnendutlona eoncernin;; ttie i'ln�u�ei.al oUligutions of the bucineso
community.
Mr. Boardm¢n :,tated he,waU »ot surc� but they had hired the con�ul.tunt.
Nrr. Pei;er�on stated that on Th.u�sdr�y� January�25th� the Citizens Crime Prevention
Co�enittee would be meetin�, and anyone rrho c�uld lil:e to attend was welcome,
I�SOTIOid by t;s. xhnabel, seconded by i9r, Peterson, to r�djourn the Janvr3ry 10� 1979,
meei;in�{ of the Planning Co�icsion.
UPOIa A VOICL�' VOTE, ALL VOmZNG AY�, VICE CIIAII'}MAN LANGF.,IQPT�.LD DECT,N3ED THE A1LS;TII`7G
ADJ'OURP,?,.D AT 11:05 P.M.
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ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION
MEETING
NOVEMBER 21, 1978
MEMBERS PRESENT: James Langenfeld, Bruce Peterson, Lee Ann Sporre,
Marvin Hora
MEMBERS ABSENT:
OTHBRS PRESENT:
CALL TO OR{'ER:
Connie Metcalf (at Air Pollution meeting in Coumi. Rm. I)
Ray Leek, Planning Aide
A1 Perez, New Brighton Environmental Coumission
Chairperson Langenfeld called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
Mr. Langenfeld welcomed Mr. Hora and introduced him to the Co�ission
members.
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 1� 1978 ENVIRONMENfAL QUALITY COP4�IISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Lee Ann Sporre, seconded by Bruce Peterson, to approve the
October 17, 1978, Environmental Quality Coomission minutes.
Ms. Sporre made the following changes to the minutes:
Page 3, paragraph 3: 4th line--"Ed Havmiel" should be chan ed to
"Jeff Hammel, Noise Abatement"; 7th line--"of" should be changed
to "to".
Page 4, paragraph 3: 3rd line--"Jan. 19, 1977" should be changed
to "Nov. 19, 1977"; Sth line--"acreage" should be changed to
��foota�e��
Page 5, 6th paragraph: 3rd line--"was" should be changed to
"not to exceed".
Page 7, Sth paragraph, last sentence should be changed to read:
She would be willing to spend many hours refinine an ordinanc�
Ms. Sporre referred to two motions at the October meeting in which the
Commission had received letters into the record, She would like it to
becane Coinnission policy that whenever the Coumiission received letters
or reports into the record that those letters and reports be duplicated
and attached to the minutes. She reco�ended that Ms. Jan Schauls'
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ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 21 1978 - PAGE 2
two letters received into the record at the October meeting be duplicated
and attached to the November minutes, and that this become a policy of
the Coumiission. The Commission members concurred.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, LANGENFELD, PETERSON, SPORRE VOTING AYE, HORA ABSTAINING,
CHAIRPERSON LANGENFELD DECLARED THE MOTION TO APPBOVE THE MINUTES AS
ANII?NDED CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA•
The following items were added to the agenda under "Other Business":
A. Purchase of Tape Recorder for use by Commission
B. Motorized Recreational Vehicle Use in City
C. Lease Agreement with Non-Profit Organization called SORT
MOTION by Bruce Peterson, seconded by Lee Ann Sporre, to approve the
agenda as amended. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson
Langenfeld declared the motion carried unanimously.
�
1. CONTINUED: hfitDOT PyAN;
A. Anoka County Airport
1. Council's Position
Mr. Peterson stated he was very disappointed in the meeting with
MnDOT, MAC (Metropolitan Airports Commission), Metropolitan
Council, and the Fridley City Council regarding the Anoka County
Airport. He felt the issue was skirted and no real answers were
given. When asked questions on specific things, the people from
ItAC did not get to the point on anything. MAC kept saying that
this was just a study to draw up a master plan for the airport;
that federal funds had been sought to study and plan to draw
up the master airport plan.
Mr. Perez stated that the problem with a master plan was that it
did not assess the impacts, if any. The Metropolitan Development
Guide said that Anoka County would become an intermediate airport
and the master plan stated the individual projects that must take
place to get the Anoka County Airport from a minor airport to
an intermediate airport. There was no assessment of what happened
when these things were done. That followed the• master plan.
After the master plan, we would not know whether what they were
proposing would have any negative impact. He stated it was very
misleading at the City Council meeting the evening before as people
thought that the master plan would deal in the decision of whether
the Anoka County Airport would become intermediate when, in fact,
it did not. He stated that decision had already been made.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COiM1ISSI0N MEETING NOVEMBER 21 1978 PAGE 3
Mr. Perez stated that thanks to some of the people in this •
(part of the metro) area, there were some statements in the
back of the Metropolitan Development Guide that sgid there was
the possibility of Anoka County reverting back to its present
status. He stated it would be nice if the Environsental Quality
Covm�ission would request MAC and Metropolitan Council to retain
the minor airport status prior to the approval of the master plan.
Ms. Sporre read from the December 22, 1977, report of the
Metropolitan Aviation Chapter of the Metropolitan Development
Guide, page 60-A, 2-B:
"Evaluate the classification of Anoka County Airport as
intermediate airport upon completion of the master plan.
Consider changitlg the classification to a minor airport
if environmental impacts are excessive as determined by
state and federal regulations."
Ms. Sporre stated it would be useful if the Commission contacEed
Metropolitan CounciL and MAC and asked them if this, in fact,
meant that the determination could include a minor airport status
prior to the adoption and approval of the master plan.
Ms. Sporre sCated that one big problem they were facing in
evaluating the airport was the segmented approach to the status
change, i..e., foot by foot, runway by runway, rather than the
total effect.
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BRUCE PETERSON, THAT
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Mr. Langenfeld asked what the City Council's position was on the
airport expansion?
Ms. Sporre stated that reference was made to North Park by the
Metropolitan Council representative, Marsha Bennett, and the
words she used were: "There are political realities that have
to be recognized." Because of Metropolitan Council's decision-
making role in funding local projects and concerns, local govern-
ment was placed under extreme pressure to adhere to the goals of
Metropolitan Council. Ms. Sporre felt the reference Ms. Bennett
made was totally unrelated to the airport issue.
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ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COI�IISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 21 1978 - PAGE 4
Ms. Sporre stated that the Commission was probably aware that
Fridley had an application in Metropolitan Council for funding
for the nature center and it would require a Metropolitan
Council decision in December on that issue. She felt City
Council was put under extreme pressure because of the role
of Metropolitan Council and she felt it was unfair to discuss �
anything other than the issue of the airport at the airport
meeting. She stated that the City Council did not expand on
their decision regarding the airport. The City Council had
been requested by this Commission to direct the city attorney
to take legal means appropriate to prevent any status change
of the airport in keeping with neighboring co�unities' positions,
but no action had been taken by the City Council.
Ms. Sporre asked Mr. A1 Perez to outline for the Cov�ission s�e
of the issues the New Brighton Environmental Commission was
facing.
Mr. Perez stated that there were other transportation issues
that were affecting New Brighton as well as Fridley. He
recommended that the New Brighton Environmental Commission
minutes go to the Fridley Environmental Quality Coum�ission Chair-
person so that Fridley would know what issues New Brighton was
getting into.
Mr. Perez stated that New Brighton had jus� adopted an ordinance
at the last City Council meeting to train their police
. to enforce recreational vehicle laws. He stated
that Fridley might be having the same problem. Their suggestion
was that the New Brighton Police Department work wi.th the
Fridley Police Department in this matter. Fridley had a motor-
cycle that was bought a couple of years ago to enforce this kind
of thing. It would be crazy for both New Brighton and Fridley
to have a motorcycle when enforcement was on a sporadic basis.
Mr. Perez stated that another set of issues were the dropping of
I-335 from the �`ransportation Plan and the Northtown Corridor
which was intended to compensate for it. It was interesting that it
increased travel in and through our communities when traffic
could better be handled in the southern part of the city. He was
sure Fridley did not participate in this decision nor did
New Brighton. Because they did not receive the opportunity to
participate, they now had to accept a report that dealt with
the replacing of I-335 with replacement projects that would
help Minneapolis, but would not help problems in 694 and would
put pressures on the Northtown freeway. New Brighton had
considered suing Metropolitan Council and putting an injunction
on those replacement projects because the processes had not been
followed properly.
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ENSIIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 21 1978 - PAGE 5
Mr. Langenfeld stated he was in agreement with Mr. Perez to
have the two commissions in coalition in regard to items of
mutual concern.
N 5t'VHl(�, SL�GONpED BY BRUCE PETERSON, THAT
Z QUALITY COMMISSION FORWARD COPIES OF ITS
EW BRIGHTON ENVIRUNMEN�AL COMMISSION AND
ATION OF THE NEW BRIGIiTON EN�IIRONMENTAL COPINIISSION
THE FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMI�ff SSION CHAIR-
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE CHAIRPERSON LANGENFELD
ION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Sporre suggested they include an arrangement for adhoc joint
committees to be formed on mutual environmental issues to resolve
or work out any problems.
Mr. Langenfeld agreed that was a good idea. He extended an
invitation to Mr. Perez for the New Brighton Environmental
Commission to attend Fridley's Environmental Quality CoumLission's
meetings. `
Mr. Perez stated that the New Brighton Environmental Commission
met the second Thursday of each month at 7:30 p.m, in the
New Brighton City Ha11 City Council Chambers. The chairperson
was Mr. Jerry Bensing. He stated the New Brighton Environmental
Couanission had nine members and were overloaded with nine members.
He felt sympathy for the Fridley Environmental Co�nission with only
five members and the work they were facing. He stated the Public
Works Director was their staff representative. They did not have
a secretary. They had a City Council representative at each
meeting so they always got a City Council update.
MOTION BY LEE ANN SPORRE SECONDED BY BRUCE PETERSON TiLAT THE
CHAIRPEP.SON OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION COPIMUNICATE
TO THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE NEW BRIGHTON ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
THE WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THEM ON ISSUES OF MORE LocAT. sTr.NT-
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Ms. Sporre stated that she and Mr. Perez had discussed the
possibility of protecting the north area in regard to the decision
of the airport acceptance and the need this issue exposed in terms
of a public policy or permit process that could be under the
Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA) which would address
the overall effects of the decision like the one outlined for
the Anoka County Airport in the Metropolitan Development Guide.
She wondered it the Commission would be interested in the MPCA
developing a policy and a permit process for that type of expan-
sion addressing issues of noise and air quality.
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Mr. Perez stated he was also a member of the MPCA and was now
speaking as a member of the MPCA. He stated that what the MPCA
was contemplating was having permit regulations for airports.
What happened was that the focus had been so much on a major
airport that a 1ot of little things escaped public notice. He
stated that the little airports had been stagnant for many years.
In 197b the Noise Development Fund had now made available money
for noise abatement projects and the availability of that money
made it possible for small airports to consider expanding again.
As they saw proposals for the airports to grow, they saw the
importance for some sort of permit requirements so inconsequential
changes went through, i.e., lighting, control towers, staff.
Inconsequential things could mean a change in the airport's func-
tional classification. He wondered if the Co�ission would like
to participate with ttE MpCp in developing a permit for airports.
Mr. Perez stated that from the state's view, the reason for the
existence of Metropolitan Council was because local governments
had difficulty making comprehensive zoning decisions. Because
of that, tl�ere was a need for an "awau" group that could.make tough
decisions. On the matter of the Airport Land Usage Plan, it was
their opinion that Metropolitan Council was not playing its role
and wes not taking a tough attitude of good land use. He did
not think the Metropolitan Council's decisions were any different
from what the locals would have done. In fact, it was more
difficult, because of the political pressure in being appointed,
rather than elected,to make those decisions. The State� was not
seeing the good zoning land use and the comprehensive planning
that was supposed to take place.
Mr. Langenfeld thanked Mr. Perez for coming to the meeting.
Ms. Sporre stated the �'taking issue" y�as very significan5 ir. terms
of airport planning. As the capability of enjoying the physical
use of the land was reduced to adjacent homeowners, they could
through reverse condemnation, ask that the land be taken from
them through the courts and that MAC compensate for the property.
But, the effect of the taking as brought into the settlement,
and the fact that the land had been reduced in value and the home
tuas no longer a very valuable home but a lower priced home,
what the airport had already taken was not brought into consider-
tion. This was reflected in the evaluation used by FHA, HUD, and
federal agencies.
Ms. Sporre referred to the Work Scope of the Anoka County Master
Plan, which was going for vote at Metropolitan Council on
November 30 and had been approved by a Subcommittee on Trans-
portation. She stated that an interesting point about the Work
Scope that should go into the record and that had bothered her
very much was the fact that they intended to use money to identify
those interested in the opposition and "to counsel them". They
were going to have an approach that included identifying individuals
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ENVIRONMENTAL qUALITY COA�ffSSION MEETING NOVEJ�fBER 21 1978 PAGE 7
and groups, leadership profiles, group profiles, and concerns.
The Work Scope said that a Team Cammunity Relations Specialist
would use counselingand interviewing methods in conducting meetings.
They were going to'tounsel'; not inform, On page 3 of that report,
she was concerned about the fact that the Army/Air National Guard
military operations facility development plans wese back in the
approach being used, because people were lead to believe it had
been defeated.
Ms. Sporre stated a master plan'was not needed if they could
retain the minor airport classification. The master plan was
a step toward implementation. The Hnvironmental Impact Statement
was hired by MAC as another step toward that implementation.
Ms. Sporre stated that the biggest problem she had with the Work
Scope was that the public was not going to be heard, but counseled.
She found the word extremely irritating. It was found on page 7
under "Determination of the Concerns of Leadership". The citizens
ahould not be counseled, but given a chance to be heard. She
suggested to Mr. Leek that if he intended to make any kind of
input at the public hearing that he react to that statement and
to the statement about the National Guard facility.
Mr. Langenfeld asked how the meeting had addressed the ambiguous
manner in which the MnDOT P1an referred to the question of the
airport?
Ms. Sporre stated that the question was asked of Marsha Bennett.
Marsha Bennett made a statement that there was a proposal in 1972
to develop a new major airport in the metropolitan area, but
that recently in the review in 1976 when it was evaluated, that
plan was dropped and the decision was made to use the available
airports rather than a new major airport. The question was then
asked who was of the opinion to drop the major airport in favor
of two larger intermediate airports with jet capabilities, and
Ms. Bennett did not have a name. Not only were no names given,
it was not even clearly stated whether it was a staff decision,
MAC decision, or a Metropolitan Council decision.
hMs. Sporre stated that she and Ms. Seeger had attended the public
earing on the MnDOT Plan on November 9, 1978, at the Hennepin
County Government Center. She submitted her report and Ms. Jan Seeger's
report for futUre use. She stated this information ought to
become part of the record. �
Y BRUCE PETERSON, SECONDED BY MA
RE'S AND MS, SEEGER'S RfiPORTS ON
ON NOVEMBER 9, 1978. UPON A VOI
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Mr.Peterson asked what the Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA)
position was on the Anoka County Airport expansion2
Ms. Sporre stated that the FAA had approved funding for a new
major airport in the metropolitan area, but the site selection
process had not been approved. This was the thing that MAC
had now that they did not have in the late 1960's;
approval on the funds, but the site of that facility was loose.
They were going through the backdoor in the site selection process.
Ms. Sporre stated that an important point that came out in the
meeting was that there was an agreement with MAC and FAA not to
discriminate on the landing. She stated she would support the
Commission participating with the MPCA and would be willing to
represent the Coum�ission, if interested, in developing a permit
process and regulations for airport expansions.
MOTION BY LEE ANN SPORRE SECONDED BY MARVIN HORA THAT THE ENVIRON-
MENTAL COMh1ISSI0N CiiAIRPERSON COMMiJNICATE TO T}IE M.PoC,A, THE
DESIRABILITY OF HAVING A PERMIT PROCESS AND REGULATIONS FOR AIRPORT
EXPANSIONS AND THAT ALL SEGMENTS OF THE AIRPORT EXPANSION BE
ADDRESSED IN THE PERMIT PROCESS AND RELATE TO THE CHANGE OF FUNCTION.
Ms. Sporre stated that carban copies of that let*_er should go to
the head of Air Quality, Mr. Ed Wiik, and to Mr. A1 Perez, as well
as the head of the MPCA, so that a11 were aware of the Commission's
request.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON LANGENFELD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Peterson stated that he did not think it was the Commission's
responsibility to get involved with the MPCA in developing this
policy; it would be better for Ms. Sporre to be involved on her own.
Ms. Sporre stated that the next meeting on the Work Scope was on
November 30, 1978, a public hearing on December 4 at 10:00 a.m. in
the State Office Building when the Metropolitan Council/Metropolitan
Airports Commission was presented to MnDOT, and final recommendations
on the MnDOT Plan from the Hearings Examiner. (No date available at this time).
MOTION BY LEE ANN SPORRE SECONDED BY BRUCE PETERSON TO CONTINUE
DISCUSSION ON THE MnDOT PLAN AT THE NEXT MEETING. UPON A VOICE
VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON LANGENFELD DE.CLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Peterson stated that he wondered what could be done in regard
to withdrawing the request for funding for the master p1an.
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ENVIRONMENTAL Q UALITY CONII�7ISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 21 1978 - PAGE 10
Mr. Leek stated that the recovmiendation that overlay districts for pro-
tection of natural resources be developed was not one which had been
discarded. They were putting together the entire comprehensive develop-
ment package for Fridley and that consisted of not only policy plans, but
specific capital improvement program 'and attendant regulations accruing
from the policy plans. But, it was not something proposed for the Zoning
Code. The Zoning Code was of such a nature that it was not Likely that
those specialized protection regulations would become part of the land use
classification per se. The changes were primarily proposed because the
Zoning Code was very much in need of some kind of update, particularly
where redundancies occurred in commercial zoning and industrial zoning.
Ms. Sporre stated that she thought some of the Covm�ission's recommendations
had included more than just water bodies; they had talked about unbuildable
slopes, high water tables, and vegetative characteristics that ought to
be accocrmiodated in the Zoning Code. This zoning code was not the proposal
initiated by the Covm�i.ssion and she found things in the Zoning Code that
did not reflect the intention of the Commission. She recommended that
the "Proposed Changes in Chapter 205 Zoning" be forwarded on without
rec oum�endat i on .
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Ms. Sporre stated she wanted to see the natural resource ordinances the
Co�ission proposed brought into line with the present zoning capability
and that during the process (which she felt should be priority) they use
the Interim Development Control Ordinance so that the design of the
community reflect the natural amenities of the area,
Ms. Sporre read the following goal which she felt was applicable to
the Zoning Ordinance:
Goal �k2. Promote efforts that will prevent or eliminate damage to
the environment and biosphere and stimulate the health
and welfare of man.
d. Promote high quality standards for the control of air,
water, noise and visual pollution, including necessary
protective measures.
e. Develop and implement land use standards which are
compatible with the inherent characteristics and
carrying capacities of the environment.
h. Ensure public access to recreational areas, with due
regard to carrying capacity and wise use of energy.
i. Foster innovative community design.
1. Minimize conflict of interest on the part of those
who make decisions about land resources.
m. Ensure more effective citizen participation through
such measures as adequate puhlic notice and review.
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ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMhIISSION MLETING NOVEMBER 21 1978 - PAGE 11
MOTION BY LEE ANN SPORRE SECONDED BY BRUCE PETERSON TO RECO2�ND TO CITY
COUNCIL THAT THE USE OF NATURAL RESOURCES ORDINANCES PROPOSED BY THE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMhffSSION AND TH� iNTFii7t� nF.VF.7.f1PMFUT /`(1T1TA/1T
� 'L_11�3�/;1
Y�:7�
IN THE
Ms. Sporre asked that Mr. Langenfeld adhere to the Coumiission's reco�endation
at the Planning Commission level.
LEE ANN SPORRE, TNAT REGARDING
TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE, IN
N THE ZONING CODE_ SPECIFT
ZONING CODE". UPON A VOICE
3. nIR POLLUTION:
Mr. Langenfeld stated that there was an Air Pollution meeting in
Community Room I that same evening sponsored by the League of Women Voters.
Ms. Metcalf was representing the Co�ission at that meeting. '
MOTION BY BRUCE PETERSON SECONDBD BY LEE ANN SPORRE TO CONTINUE TiIIS
ITEM AT THE NEXT MEETING AND TO RECEIVE A REPORT FROM MS, METCALF ON THE
[�C�]�MS7�7
4. CONTINUED: ADTiMAI, ORDINANCE:
Mr. Leek stated due to loss of manpower in the department, he had been
unable to come up with a model animal ordinance.
ION by Bruce Peterson seconded bv Lee Ann Sporre to continue discussion
the animal ordinance at the next meetin� Upon a voice vote a11 voting
, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion carried unanimouslv_
S. OTHER SUSINESS:
A. Purchase of Tape Recorder for Co�ission Use:
Ms. Sporre stated there was a need for this Commission to haue a
tape recorder to be able to accurately record statements regarding
public policy such as was presented at the public hearing the
previous evening on the Anoka County Airport. She could see the
need to record policy makers or government officials on their
positions on certain issues.
MOTION BY LBE ANN SPORRE TO AUTHORIZE THE CiIAIRPERSON TO PURCHASE
A TAPE RECORDER THAT WOULD HA�E THE CAPABILITY OF BEING ABLE TO
RECORD LARGE MEETTNGS.
MS. SPORRE WITHIIREW HER MOTION.
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ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 21 1978 - PAGE 12
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n�:x x�:SN�AKCH BE DONE IN T]iRNS
�THER COI�IMISSIONS WITHIN THE C
SUCH A TAPE RECORDER WER�:
- THE HEARING WITH THE NIINNESOTA ENERGY AGENCY FOR THE FLfNDING
OF THE ENERGY PHASE OF THE NATURE CENTER BUILDING,
- THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE COA'AIISSION MEETING IN_REGARD TO THE
NATURE CENTER AND THE ISLANDS OF PEACE.
- THE JOINT MEETING LAST EVENING WITH MnDOT, METROPOLITAN COUNCIL,
AND MAC REGARDING THE ANOKA COUNTY AIRPORT EXPANSIONo
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE CHAIRPERSON LANGENFELD DECL
Y.
Mr. Leek stated he would check into the cost and interest by other
commissions of a tape recorder.
B. Motorized Recreational Vehicle Use in the Cit :
Ms. Sporre,stated that New Brighton was very active in this regard and
was going to be ccum�unicating with Fridley on the use of locations in
the north area for motorized recreational vehicles. In the City Council
meeting minutes of October 23, 1978, Mr. Qureshi had commented on a
special conm:ittee to find areas for designation of recreational vehicles.
A motion was made to have Mr. Bob Barnette serve on this committee.
Ms. Sporre stated she was very concerned about this and the things that
had been happening in the nature center from the motorized vehicles.
She stated that some areas Mr. Perez had mentioned might be the airport
site or the arsenal gravel pits. She thought the city should pursue
this with New Brighton. If they were going to be in the process of
designating areas, this Commission should be involved.
�i[ii7
THE
VOTE, ALL VC
UNANIMOUSLY.
USE
REVIEW THE
C. Lease ARreement on Non-Profit Organization called SORT:
VOICE
Mr. Langenfeld stated that SORT (Save Our Reusable Trash) was a non-
profit organization which was the end result of the Commission's recycling
study. A one-year lease agreement was prepared for this organization.
The organization would work with the city. The problem was that the
document had not been _ filed with the state for it to become that type
of non-profit organizati m.
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ENVZRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 21 1978 - PAGE 13
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the location for the organizatirn was the area
south of 71st and west of the municipal garage yard. The city would
provide maintenance and necessary signing and any amendments to the
operating procedure would have to be approved by City Council. He stated
that Ms. Metcalf was sti11 involved in it and additional information.
could be obtained from her.
AD.TOURNMENT:
MOTION by Bruce Peterson, seconded by Marvin Hora, to adjourn the meeting.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the
November 21, 1978, Environmental Quality Concnission meeting adjourned at
10:55 p.m.
Respectfully subm'tted,
Lyi4t e Saba�
Recording Secretary
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I am herc tortay to ad�ase t2�e aviation section of the MH/DOT Pian; specif-
icnll,y the posaible adverse effects tha axpansion oP the runways at tho Anol:a County
IIlaine Air�ort could have on the acquifer rechar�r,e area und thp dralnare of the Carlos
Avery Gtuie Refur,e.
M article in tlie x?inneapolis Star� July 20, 197E, P 15C, tells tustt�h4t the
pollution of lakes an3 rivtrs is nor� the top �vironmental concern in the astion,
accordinr, to a recent Harria Sscwey of SSG7 U,S, adults." �,fien asked about the
different ti•;�ea of pollution, f8 percent af those polled eaid the pollution of lakea
and rivers io very BeriouE, compared with 54 percent who felt thet way in 1971,„
A etudy that a�ya that environnental probler,is may acconnt for as �uch as
7a nercent to 80 percent of tho causes of eaneer� and aiso are responcible for
heart Qiaeases� eccordinF, to t�e t:innea�,olis Trihune, ?JOVember 9, 1�J75, p 4A,
The roport titled ��Effects of Chronic Exposure to Low.-Level Pollutantr, in the
Enttironment," was Drcpared by tJ-,e Llbrar,y of Con�esa�s Con!�essiorml Resenrch
Serrice for the House subcorazittee on the emironrent and �he etmosrnere, Ttco
rPport lists varioue nubstancec contributinr, to pollution an3 health problems,
tioat enter the vater end.eir throu� induatria]. procesees, Other toxic c+aterinls
include carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons produced by combustfon ont�.nes, Thc
report se:;��, ��The coststo societ.y of diaease� linl:ed to emironmcntal nollution.
►ihilc difficult to pin dor.�n, are starr,erin� "
Once the runways have been established end i�e Jet traffic fnerease3, it
u311 be jtL,t a r�tter of tir.ie e.Rsen the Atetrogollten Airports Cort�mi5sion vt12
request for ex;�ansion into the Han Latce site, the other site that vas adoPted
in the 'air;erts ay�-ten pian' on �er�er 15, 2972, Ae recent ee +Jte election
cla��, yovenber 7, 197C ktinneanolin S§nr headlines on pe�e SA reed, „A new
E13rport? It'a not needed now, say plcinners" 'Aith the 9000 runways thet have ��--
tteen anproved nt the Anok� County Airnort and the FederEl Fundino in proces3,
when the northern neir�bprs he�r the firrt e£fecta of the earcirum-ghatterin^ �
jet air�lanes overhend, the ldetropolitan AfrPOrts'Camnis^ion nn!1 the b'etro-
po2itan Council wi12 be snvtnn, "Oh those i3-7d7�s, nC-10's tmd the F,1011 ttre
only landinr at the old Kar.. Lake aite. Me'll hnve to cfiange the �role� of
the airport in ois Referral Guicie!"
I hAVe a fnap that shod�a n Tror,osed drainaRe dltch tYrom the Ham l.aVe site
to the 5'is:�iasi,:pi Dwn aitd. The ditch is enrsoximately 10 miles lon�,
320 fcet �ide an� uP- to 40 feet deeP, The same mnn ahowr the holc!in� patterns
for the Aneka Counr,y Airport and the Han Lake Fite, ThA ten-nile holdin� patterns F--�
fiir apace ovarlsrs with the ten-r.iile radius hoiding patterri at Internstional over '
a very 3encilt� populated area of the cit�, If there +ucle e ntackvn dvrin� realc �.
ne^iod flyin!� into both airporta it could be catastrophic:
In e report of the Referral Committee of the f,tet-roPOlitan Council to their
taemt+ers, dated Arril ?3� 1909, Subject;ASAC NPronpsed Airr?ort Syssten Plan, 1370-19F30�
and Fin�inra, Conclusions anA prder." Tha report on the Htcm La;ce oite sayn,
�4s�' aummarize, it is the fee2inr.of the aiajoritv membere of the Referral Cor,mittee "'-'
that there are enou�+}� eerious doubts about abuairenmoiee, aA,jacent land development,
rntor table und aquifer recharqe ftmction to rcquest that the Metropolitan Airparta
Cor,imission ezunine all availdble site poter�tials�,eo as to find a location which
best meeta nil of the crlteria as oatablished h,y our l�evelooment Guide Convnittee.^
Idinnoapolis Star� Au�ust 27, 19F,9 P 29B� �The Council earlier this year turnod
clown a plan for n new airport at Ham Iake in Anoka County because of eueh questions
es the possible adverse effec� on tfi a noarby Carloa Avcry Game Farm and the
unr3ert}�oim i water table there which supplios urater to the netropolitan aroa,"
St, Vaul nis,^atch, June 10, 19c,J,pROBLSD9� T00 IIIG FOR fWC, "Conservation
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� F'n�!e ? Zmpact on vater tmd tho Carlor, Avery Rane Farri
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1�e�T3rtment officinlz� inclu�iin� ner?vt,• Cormistaioner Robert Norbct, ex}:resr.e�'.
oprosition to the !Sar., Latce Qito becauae of thc �lan�er of lovrerir.r t}�c water tnb�e,
Altnou�tlnnsen claimed thst the �'AC doe»n�t nlan to lovrer the �atcr tnble, hr. was
unat�le to produce evidonce to satisfy Conoervatfon �epartnent a�ficial.^, that r.uch
a lo�%erinc; �vould not teke pl[3ce."
"iierliat �ointed out thai therc is no kcwwn �+ublieho�! inforn3tion on t'�o
�ound water levels mithin ti�e pro��ose�3 airrort site an�7 that an:r lo+;erin,^, o` water
level� on �he Carlos Avery Game Refur.e Ftarshes, adiacent to the uirrbrt �lte. vrould
be �inastrous to k�terfo��+l anei aninalc there,�'
i7us Pederal Av3atlon Aa..oncy�s hulletin 9IIi') 1iAZARt?6 TO AVIATIO'!, r.k^'.:e.^, opr;�
atsict recor.uaendAtions on what to �90 with neeaa ti.�!:ich attract birdrs ne�r air?+orts.
Such areas '�houl<7 te eli:�inatec3 fron tho nirf?ort vlcinity b}� nuriici;:al �re:,s�me
ara3 influence; by ralocation; ar b}� �r�inin;±, levelinr and surfncin^ with naterinls
tur�ttractivo to oird life. such as rxavel."
An article in the Sun , July 15, 197U mal;es clair.i that� �Lfi?i?� �:'^ ;:z;;j?S r�p PiOT
!:L", ".^,itizen's Coo: dinatin3 Councii fo^ Carloa Aver;,�' was forne?, r,rC,; is clai�inr,
over �D,C00 !�+er+t�er� throur�i relatc�ci or.^.a:._zations t?�at liave announeer.7 t�eir su-rwrt
of its hoals, r�ainl;, con3ervationists. The jotrort'R thraat to Carlo, Avery involve.�
a direct conflict of purpo :e in the use oi' both land and a3r. Tite inco^,:atit>ility
of rrildlife ares� and jotports are rtranaticalS;; ,:rovon in thc £i^ht ove^ an rver,.aaade
�et_,ort, 1'�ther:�ore, the pro:>len:, involved e�ith birds An3 aircraft �harin^ the
st�r..e ai^s:K�ce havc been knovm for many years. •^he on7.y reul so3.ution hass been t.o
elic:inate �tie bir�Is,"
;�a�-June, 13��, Conaervation Voluntee^ �'FArew.eil to Carlo.^, Aver�,
"Sor.,E 1,5 '7�I].1011 i+:�I7 City ;.:ro-�ert;: o=mer� heve evi..^'.entlf determir.e.'. tha� t!ie��
wiZ2 "or.eit tfleir t�ol4im�:: in m ver;,� larr.e chun': of real eatate, T:ti^� ;dree of
rer31 e:�ta.+.e is the ?2')00 acre Cnrlo,^, kver•� '.�'i181ife ?La.na�ement A.^ea. Tiie C„rloa
,Aver;� ,roi;crt;• ormed b�- ':innesotn citizen:; fs es�entiall;: an oasis o; onen s;x3ce.
It is � haven for Lateriowl, dee^, birctli:e, of beavar, min: and mus,crat,"
The article i*.oe� on to sa,y, ���raina�e �sill �1ao have re;�ercu3�iona u�:icn concerh
ever;� i'`�3n Citian, becausc the mar::ier, an� ew�;�c; of slam Lake-:arlo, Avea�+ .'lrce
�erve a� a vital aoisce of rechciz��e to the under�-roum:l aquifera of t?�e rietro;blitan
area, Draina�-e coulc, have r.wst etitical renerca3sion, urhere r.�e`.ro;�oli-��.n water
supplies are. concerne;l." .
":�ere ic a;x>llution to fi;�t wii;� thc �nne ener�v we s'�oul=.', be ex; er.'in •
a;�ainat iwt;i air :tnd water poll;rtion...Once t,leasnnt areas of northern Vir� in:,.
hmve becone doafenin� na<ihouse:, becauwe oS an uncalZoci-Tor increase in traf�'ic an�i
the u,e o: tt�c �naller ,jet� at �.a;hin�*ton ;;ationai Air�ort."
Ap:il 3, 1970� Out loor Ne�:".> b'J +C1t :3eZ�aj7� "The i3AC ma� have :'.eci.�er' to �,^,ut"
Carlo.^, Avery b-r th� i:ine t;�is is *rinte•:. 'r'AC, a purelv humkzn bo:'.;� wiihout devine
�?uir',nncc, can an<I i� na'cins; a nista::c iahe� it ;;roni�e� tfiat this feat c�n :,e
achieve i:+it`�out dicru .tin�� t��e Carlos Avery ecosp�tem. Promi�e � Pro;ii ,e: ?ut
the fact i�, that no one rind r�ol�o�iy '-:nowa wiMiout question ttiat arcnt irre;,arable
dcina:.:e uill not Ue clone." ��
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^eptenber ^]� 1�;�, ,: nrioaota Con�crvr.tion ConmS:,aioner, Jarle Leir;:allon
bRYa air;rort at llan L�n� vro:il.3 deutro�• tne CArlo� Avcr;= 1�'ildlife Area.
?ocen:�er ', 1�70, '?innelnoliv ^rihune (an editorial in �he i;es: ;or;: ;ines }
Ni9ore hlo:v� to conoervation= talter .I, !;icl;el, ^ecretar;, of Interior an:'. )ii .
ar.sist:3ni;, .^,r. Leclie^ln9�o�a fire:i b;; Precident t�tixon,
Aecemhcr �. 1�'70 i:innenpolis Tribune (�;an [,aise letter defended by itio:iar�:
Rleec.an. a t•!ashin^,ton, !?,Cy corrns �on•icn�)
^hia ar�icl� io in referqpce to t.�c reccnt fi.^inn of l:alter ,?, i;ic,cel,
forner f,ecretar;,•• of Interior. '�On oustec� asnistant �ecretzry o^ t�1c Snterior
nsintaine�; ^a��zr�t1; th�t hie letter o�;�o^in? tiu 'Iar I.�S:r. r.i8e for a:low i�,rin
Citia^ .^.otro;olii:an Airror� was neithor w-viuti�ori.^..c�? nor unuzull, '�ni-, �ir, I,c�lie
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�' Pac;e 3 Imonce on.water and the Carlos Avery Cume i�'art�
L, Claa�ov oonddAdd fhat tho letter� rritten October p� 1970 to Repreeentativn Ju�agh
itarth� (D-'!n.) quite poasible cou1P. have contributed to hia bein;; fired by the 44hite
Aouse." Tho article p,oes on to any, MGlasf;o�, 5G, said he never haa bean t*tven nny
rsasson ior hia fL^in,, which came toat day� ai'ber President Nixon diemiano�l his boss,
Interior Secretary walter J, fiici:el,^ Further the nrticle atates, °The Interior
De�rtsent hcsd to oppose Fiam Ln1ce even before tha atill incomplete environmental
etu�v, Clas;±ow explained, cv�til we found out what settlenent was reached. The Fiam
Lakc site mifht becone accoptable, he explained, should the 23000 acre Wildlife
refu�ye be replaccd by other land of auitable quality. But Lhere�s n unit o£ land
itiat extencia Par beyond Carlos AverY����Glae�*ow eaid, MIt�s a natural unit thnt ahou2A �--
be Urotacted, That�s extremely valuable land and likely coutdn't be rerlaced."
al.aeaeow anid the federal government hsa well wcr a million dollars imreated in �at
+rilc37.ife area, I xanted to protect the federel Snterest."
„Conservationiats oppoecinr tho Han Lq'r.e site in Anolea Coimty say the wilc]].ffe
retupe 13 within fifty milos of 1,5 million y+eople."
�71e+ ?'oterson�s OU1'DOpTt idF.'�S pupe 3, Friduy 7ir�r�9 *��1970, L�ditorial,
"�,��'�s f?emm�d an Znvectir-,ntior�of 'is� Lake;�� ^De�piza .`�e testir�on�tr oi' the
Conservation Departnent hydroloRicts, profensionel v'.dlife u�anar,ers nnd the
opposition o£ virt�ll.y cveryone livinF in the i�ae3iate area, the t;AC seems
determined to imhoae ite will on bo�i the public nnd the er�vironmatst,^
"Tf:e onl,� oeoj;le vho want the Ffam Lal:e e1tC are thoae sdmitted landowners who
are apeculatin^ on bponin^ val�os in �c s�rnmolando �„and ihe p*J,C,^
m have ahere� eo�,e of the bac�:�otmd hictor� on the battle to t�e�e�Yee
Carloe �Aver;.- Gmne Fa_�r,;,
t:*,-�at guorantee will the F!etropolitan Coimcil and the Metrozmlitan Aircx3rts
Coneaiasion furni�h thut v12I F,rove beyon3 a dou6t thmt the runway expaae3on at
Ano'�ca County �cill rwt bQ ilxrther expanded into the iSan LnSce site. alonr, vith
atiat cmoof do they have thab the expansion Will not adversel,y effect the rechar�e eree
and our wa.ter suprl�
. 14�e :ieLronolitan area is t cttins: two-thir� of its watcr i�on tt�e fa�ound watar
�AT'�ly; can �hc artesian bar,in �ich providoe L'�at maCer meet the increased demand of
the ponulation7
` t?ill the f.Secissippi River, durinr, dr,y veather florr� eatiefy tk,e ever-increasin� ��
damands of the pro�eseive fg�owth of the Wetro esrea7
k'hat are the dan�ers of the basin hainr dry?
t.4tiat ara Che riles end responsiAilitios of the private eector in vrater quality
8nd marklcBr.�ent?
�""' lfiat a311 the imnact be oS thes expenaion ot the rurnaqys oa tho water quality in "
thiR areaT
Wha*_ will the ctrainnr,e do thet mi1S be necesr�ar}� aith the eirport expanaion?
t�lhat are thc priwary stepa necesaary to deter�nlne the extent of the nre�e
eubsurface weter aup�2ies?
what will the added �+x�wth in ponulation do in re�rdo to Aenpit� and der.iand
of pur water rago�aco�?
" Arc the prasent laxs snd nllxation rroprams barriers to resolution of vater- '—
related conriicts?
I �s�e 13ze 'dn/:�07' Plan W halt the ex;xtncion imtil ell tha Queatione reo,ardinr
the rrater reahar� area and drnininn of Carlos Avary Qeme Farm be answ�ered,
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v I am here to exprenn �nr concern for tha tranaportat�on plan� •„�clfically the
asc+scts of the Aevelo�xaent pnbtarn L�+et io bcin:± lnriicated rery vnr,ucly thr��,��
Ehe traneportetion plsn 4n rerar•M bo tho Northtevm Corri:fo,r en•! tho exnannion of
Lhe run�+a„r,s af �e /�y„a Countr-�:lnine Air,ort. The obacvre� aordin� o.° thn
trane�ortntion ,rinr� lu e heinou� error ttint tho intention of the S�.o;;ort�e�t a£
1Y�nnoportntion la n 2ar�o ricc�ie� r,a„�ive alt�ration of' thc "�tro;,olitnn orcaj
shlf'tin^ intennive lnn9.ume pnttcrnin� r.vctx eo Lt,c r.c2jor air;ort an�; fY�eaw�ul. nvat�m
to 13te north.
Ha1Ae !a thc prir�e hacis for the NFFr. � ax,�,�.; �;� ���•g at p.not;m Coim±�• tv
sezw Jet traffic acccrrdin^ to tha tawrwrignts of a Pm,1o^ nir;�ox�t in Ano;ca Count�• �;,
19 indioatod in nux�orpus noe�py„�• q=•tialec thc�t T will aheu�e �itt� you, .
The cr.rxansion of the rumra}�s at Amkn C��tv_�laine Rirport to 90'YJ fee*_ ties in
a3t'� L'�e ,rohi�e t`�at the taetrocoli'tan Air;,o�rt� Comisoion an�l ti;e NGtro;+alitan
Council �aut�m to thc reairlents livin� r�r int�natiorfal. AirF�rt Lhat tt���• e,oul�t move
the �et3 to �o ne:c air,�ort.
To �uota n iew of the articlee that expreea *�e nea•7 to s+ove the nof�e nwa�• tl�p�
InternaCion:l: ?iS!'iRP:l".O�.SA 5��� 7,/2.^,/7�� nCluruc-: etaid ho i� ver:' une�r.�; a'+out tho
xietrpopll�en Council T,olicio� �ic� cull for ths ncsw airaort tp b� {�e sinr,lc t?ajvr
- air.•n.»t for com!aercial aircrnft here for tha next 3���+1n y��.�� �A r��.il Sattsr�.•
rea°firmec3 its trrevi�ua nosLtio!� �hat mhnn Liie r�,� airtsort is orxna�:, pernr���s nt�ut
19';p� � m�rciel ��aFt anou2 i Ix� sbvc�l frw; k;innea��oli;�..^,t. i*aui IntArn�tlonal
bACau.,a of er.ca�aive nai�c for nei^�,t,erin^ harwa,^���RClur��; ea;f tLAr. can not clo�e
Intornntional to co.�amercinl tru_`fic �fien a new aL+^rwrt ia o;�etie:;. Counr,il c�sr:';�r
Geor<:e '.. i-ennoc:c� Ct�air:n¢n of thc ilsC-r;e�tronolitan Cou�ci2 Co «�Stt�se� recel2A•?�
ho�ave�� that i;AC has on aeveral. occaQion� a�i : it anul<; �aovc �ixtc�r.��� ti'::J.e� 'aircraft
6Lt� of Int.er�v'.:ion.sl i�.o A T}ek Q�^C,OT'�•������(�jU.TM.a1Ci: II{i{+,i t?1.1� Internr:f:inr,sl coul�'. A�l'V8
c�orae:etic aircr€�ft• aiiem m �ow Alrqort is nuilt. ;�e envinione i r.s�� n£�,; g�r nri: as nn
lpternationril one aexwin; tra�',`ic t�etw�en 7.brth Ablttntic Countries um? tliQ ;<irtue��t -
fl;�inr tie routo aver the� ?•;or`,�r }�Q�n
• "tinnaa-olis _,t:s. Au�;uat ^7r 1�<?� ;,a�• "')a� „Air;:ort Arnv R�*_r_d '??,e!:t.o :ra:.
Noiaa��, NAircra3't aoise at "irsnea,-olis-,t. ;�aul ZnL•csrnational Air;4rt i� creatir.�
a t#�otta foi' e quarter af q oillfon z,�cs�ke livin�; in t;io ne�r�v kr�'� JA,:,�•; G.� 'ict-
2and� 3r. P.es�ro,�o2it.3r� Council cfa�:irnan� sai�? 'iliea��qv,a
MAir traffic has Lo be r,,ovQC? fron there txcev�e �he �•;uq],it5� o` I4fn� i� L�einA
deatroye.9 for these neoF:le br �rsoice aollution' nro�� ic� uircr�ft, ?�e *el., r,,�
O�ti�:ist C1uS of ►;irmea��2is,��..: :tetianc; are�'ic'ta•� t�ie fY�e ;ur��c_:• o: r,ircrc.^t noi�e
MSll increasa fois tirruls ��„hia 'kie nast',: ten ,r-eere �iM. the er;�cecte�': ox;enr,ioz in
YOlttraCl.n
As a resident of Fri�tloy. 2 aa �oc;:e� }„o t!;ici; t2��t the ttetro;ali�,;n Council
and 'the 4ehro;�olitan Air;wrtg Co:s�isaior. t'iinc t�at tt;e;• can r,oiv� tt+e noi�� ^�ro'.�le.�a
b�� movin.� the rwi�e fror., one rxirt or tt�e cit;• to �T�e o�r^; Tho rR7irentn in t`�c
northern coacunitie; eurroun•?in�•, Arwk� Count�--'.laine Air;ort [sro bno;: � thc �n�
IsroLler theY ha�: ':ac': in l�t , kfie7 t'.:e YAC fir>�t ;�ro;,one:? tQ �uil' n��rl�' 1c�trort
on L.tia± site( ��uc to the overwt:eL�iz� o;,�ositlan oi t!�� ;x;o�1�, t'�e ^u�,C a�!t�-�-e�.- their
Plnnc anc: x,ro;osad t?�o t?an �;c sfte, s�itc �hat e�t��sren rtn ovcrlaarin- i�or-'.er,
If one site is �c ,uire:' tlic :'�,C autoc+atic�Il>> hne ete�er�q t� �� p�yPr vit�,
F:1iL'1CA1JC�iSi3 .`:�q: �.TAiIU..^_: j'?� Z37:?� °��cn.i�,iA ���• �I`S.r••c; tI•• P�OJ`thHCi:�: ViCC�—
fxe:�i�lent, sai•: he is s:;e;,ticnl ttiat ne•:� technolo��� c+ill prorltu,e <;uiet ai^craft
thwt- are eoonor..ic311:• fca^i'�le ft� ti�e n��r ;n y�Q�� or lon�or,„„�Kttorthcroct lm�t
about to move to a ne•r nir;qrt an� 2eave itc nrofit�rle �toneaf.ic hu�ino3^ rs�x��: ye
kinneu,olfa-to-Chicsro :7.i�iits to ita oom�etitor� 1.iort'� Centrnl.^...'�^�•qn Citi�.^. area
doeR rwt nec�:� nor can it su;•,�o:-t t�cp e�j�^ Mir;orts tv�til �:rll, r.n:st Lhe yenr ?(YJ���
he said." ..,��c;ri,,,� �ai<� ^2u�c;;�s vision of an internntlor:a2 air,ro,-t hero ia not
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ranlictic� end hs notod tfiat t3�ere rox are pnly ebput Sp fmnsen�ra � dav at
Inbcx�nntional makia; forei � tri�. Chica�o �n�t Ict y�u ta!;c it (Inter:�ationsl
wir trefflc for thio rertion) pvu�; PY�on then�� he e�id."
141nnea-,olia Ster� ;'sp},Q�;,ar 13� 197;,� NInCornntionnl proU.�bly will roac5
oapsclt•r and n nev ��or alrport xill be nee�bd !n the lattcr nart of thc 1�R0�3
tl{� council asirl. ,*,t,� •„he net� air;?ort ehoul�: i� thc a!n^le mn�or air,wrz for the
nezt 3a oa' 4� Yerar=,� thon, and International, iF ret�inrd e}�ou1:1 ?,c uaQ�1 only- to:
of?ernt�ona �com�tible rltti itrz environs{� ecai�? �ie ?�.�Lro;x�Eitan Coemcil,"
St. Paul rioneer �re�n«. Ffzy 7� 1�r,F� Rinec wo nre 9lecu�nin.^, tha nnme eita
anG reo:�-a;;hic area t!;i� cu�ticle ra�+ainrs r�ertinant: MIav�sn t7, e'iller..the
eoousticAl on;-inoar hire�l hy the ttAC �n it:� aearah for nn airPort site� aai� he
�i+oul�'• atron-l:• es^e ar.�ufsitS.on of even raorA lan3 �hcen now rroc+o�e�' fo^ t!iiw aittt
to ;xrovi•�a a noise .huffer mrx�. °te note��S that r:oraonss livin�• in ti;r plide pntha
of thia air;ort aoul�` be ex;�ae•3 ta tfiQ rsviso of 3(YJ��? cbnsnercia2 �t move�entr+ a pear
!fn the 1�;?O�s an�l 1�An�g���
:%t. fu�Q i'ionc�x i're^'3� .*•4t�t�ch 1-0� f9f"f� MAir:�brt Redeorch �'�.ator��'
°iAOttropol3tan Council .r.e�n�wr Jose;3� A. tt�un of Gt, P4u1 asni<i� Z�.1 hate to ace ur, z�vtke
4 flociatwn baoed on i�morancn� eo aouid the 4-r�illion peo;:le a]io are ex��ecr,eci to 5e
liain^, ir. the 'Cet:rorolit�n Ares b� year 2?^1; � -}Y�q,lib8 D.9
Gt. ?'A�!1 TYoneer T�rena C3ltorial,pL3fa !n the itOiletvor):a"� „Ten railes qv�c,
(anl::' aix mile� frn; A�!��: ,^,ountti�-:slAin� Aire,ort) in Fri<71c>�. t9�e takeof^ noi,e level
+rfll be 9'J :;eci'�els, t!�e saxe na inniAe n min�� factor.r. Tkee rac::et frcm icn:'in^
aircratt wKll bc onl,' 5 to 2� deci`tiel� t>eloa tie tsL:e•off r�1ae lavele in all theee
emeac." .
"In Lie ai�-rcr.-� a?:nn tF�. win�=r ars orr.n nn�l �ec:le ara mo�t viil.ner�:,1e `a noiac
the j:revailin� tirin:'W in t��� °'a•in^ities tsrea ere 1}�on th� south es::3 eaut'�ea:;t, t:^,�en
++in<? s;�e:3r sre ^re�ter fi'ian si:t !cnots (r,�hic� tlie t:e�athcr *�iaeHU saud is 7� ;�nscont
of the tiree !ic^n). .Set nirerr�^t ta'cA af.*' into tJ+e xind, i!iat rr..ens t!�r.+_ ro^'; su�er
La::e-o.`fv waul : k�e over nuc'� henvil�� y�;:ul�te6 areus as ^l�ine, Lexin;�ton, C$rcle
Pinea� 'oun�s Vleti•, }t.... i�ia��on„ sTrin^ I.s�:e �r°,c and Pri?.Ie;;."
'.IL'� L'zc ,^ro^iv� Lo ri�' the reai�Srntc livin^. nvr.r Ir�crnetion:.! of t��e noi�e�
tlse lon^-ran^c plsrv� on the �irn.rin� bosrcis; k�e oontracto tal:en c.�re of; �ie
aF�, Iic�tian Tor 1'e :aral fun �a in �aocens � raost of thc� prc7.3ainary rr��,Sen.-, hnve Linen
ttkan car3 of �; �Ze "etz`o;•olifxtn Cotnrfl nn�� tt�e tie�opoli�..:n Air^ort:, Cyz,:.lssion
riY�rout in; ��t fro� �;e *n:��Iic, the rn.En i'*`ohie�� that rema3n, una :c�-oaaed ic t;ox are
lhey ttoir;; to at�ract t??e Jetn � t+,e Armf:a Count,;..;;Iaina Afr;ort?
?�Snnea-oli� �tar , flovcnber 7, 14'i?ti p�at.. the ,To1nt Cw.vai�;oc of thti> ;'etronolitxtn
Co�:ncil an-� ::s�-n;blitan Air:�orts Cor.rile��ton (`.A�) aino vote: to !rs^,1u9� Sn its
reco::naen�latton �r c'�nn- 9tate.xn`�thet construr.�ion of t+is nex cajor ei^,-�er!: txe
deigye•'. t�*.il thc TI?':^' ie, dr.nonn�-nte�:,
That r,tt+';Pr,Hn` f16R the strflte�^� that the f:C/'.9� Co�i*tec is u:in^. to n�T�
1�'ii: their �a�� foot runvm��� �ev catt eoon e,staGlis`i t!ie t'LT.'' :or r,rorc ex��naion
lnto the :ta«. S.n:;a site. �.he twice rejoc:.*.ed oite, Now t:i$'� C7C�' hAVC e1S�im�e�i tho
Qrorr site xitT, tho c1Rir+n that �ha� �bn�t aooC a rscav air�ar`�. wpulc', a�,�frrtr rnt',ar
stran-e if the-r �u•'•icaly �Sec1 ie t+�a: rte�� Ao rroea more ur�acn Sor flrtise �-rn4�:h and
dovclo;nen'1 I�,'. 1lse 'xtrni�ion to aap�roac'� the t�ench �sn th�t 2 csn �n•�� �ou no3t
si,c,riificant piec� of evic4enen of the xiAC a4osdn� their !n*t�n:zion to rn to nn
ultinaie r�:rty of 3lKJO foet thir.h moui �3 L-r� a!�J�J0.7 eir;�ort SY�or, the e�txrt that
iioul�t aecomao��ate aIl ty;�ea of aireraf�. The lon�ot rumm��• at I7Ccrr�tionll i^
on2;; 10�000 fast. {zrin^ tyc �n^ forwlr�l and point out tho rus:wn�� confY�-uration to
the auc'Sanco.)
hm ite�;.�rsr 2/2/7^� �t+r. Se�iler nsi�7� �i�uC tho roat ir.;;�e:-+,:anL• tc>eision wi21
�iFlYO tp :�Q t„'lq !t�tQ {Oi` thQ BiTUOL`t• Tt �'J !!Ot 9 r:Qft' �R:IUC• ncne;,`,cr i:11!+ 1i7�?
i•nv��tion census :ahrn.•? an Sncran�e !n r�onvlation in tfie :u�rthern nNn ?��• ?'�r��^��
vhilo the wov';.hern a�etor increnne�f h�� only 130,x�J. Nort'•, ic �:".:e:�r ttin �x:oric n.^e
p,oin�." ':r. Sai'.lcr ic owncr nnd rros.tAemt of t::itv�000ta �.ivcr Aviation� Inc.an avid
au,�por�cr of tho tla.:. Lnke ettc.
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To e�a it wuld seea x�ldiouloua bo �+ave 1l�e air� orti stolac tran nn arca rfiora H:o
J1pl�US:tt�OT !a �ecren�+inr bp 8110C1A1` 8FlQ �+t+ere it haa txeen �u ovon tA 'rpve increnoed.
An QrCicle �Airi�ort ttar.lr��s� nPS,Q�,1 �n tho :'>c,^.'tanber 1•:>, 1�%', lasue o!' �to*.��•or.::
t4,at cL�1c�Q that ornc:��'- +�ncbws� rattlinr croe'r.ar:;r MOUne3-out convcraationa� nr'c swt
the onl: pro:'�lo�a peo�,le SSv1n� necex' air;�orta ooaplain �u!. 'n'�c:e nav Se �ha le.�ak
buthoraorao efY'ects of �et rwino. The srticla aa.es� "Cors3tnnt axpoauz'e to the sroar
�n�? x�}:inc of sircraft re, or� two acoustScsl es;xrts� rmY reproncnt n�aeriour> hazcard
��}t,h,M �.�M^osi atrSkln� +�.^ tho finain� '�.`�at ciscea of cirhosia of t?�e liver �1ue
tp c�in:in� �ra I4� percent hi,�'her araon^ ti�on�e �ho iivo? near L.A. In�ornetiorisl.
I,ues e1.�ificant incremsaa �'a slso rwCe�l for <Sgai.^ea fYrom hesrt d1a►_sse, stroke��
1un� cancer. euici�ie en�'. avto acci:3ants. tdoiee-lnc:uceA atre��� ,�int ot��; �."°.�
Culifornia inve�ti,;ator:s� can 1w�4 to mverYthfnr. SY-Pn h�?�ertension �o nuaffin? tbo
rmny ^artinir.."
«;7w team+e fir��iin^ec au�mort earlisr atu8len itt t,o3 An^ei¢$• �rent lritnin an�!
Jn;•un aa!-,ic?: ta�covored a hi�*}�er incidencc of t�ir*'^ cfmfecta aa�? nervou!s M-csa!:�iorrns
ar�oius^ ;boi:l� resir.in� near eir��ort run��ays. £ver�rorso S:now+� tt,a4 iou-e� lnte^�itber�t
or continuous r+oise !n distur'.�inr�." sa;'; •,00chmn. .•.°T��'�in� e1GA in our stu.{�; cquld
account for t� e i�re►nne in �rta1+_t;: ."
In ar arCiclr, ir. the A�rS(8!1 ^e"fcal Ars�sc>ci��ion Tae�s>, t3a� t'. i���^P=aise
Pollirtion Calle•'. �sa!or ti�alt`� t�nv�x'`�~� "Loo��in^ et t�e ler�l aa->ectg or t�e imbbi�
yp�(,+ 1�4!"(."T .Ci• F'O:C !T.� :"i�W11�:Rq Llril� !iAI`Dil1 F� �re•irickson� LLI?� F're�lric4son� �'3"�� .
amd Co2hu^�, `•inrte�;�2±s."..."��'ech`icc�on a+ai:j the etrtan tioisc ro2lution t�'ohlec
mue�t he atGacke=i on ehroa' Plflne, ��ith partioir�Lion fra� the 2oca1, �tate an-! fe3e;�s1
fe+vels."
^"he prohlc:r. of incrensin;: ur?7an }1DS$@�N he naid� ��us' t�e face•? not� .�+:e �uet
reeva2�t� ott� ;�resent le^nl ntructure to wtercine �e e:':ec'� o.° m1�e on :a?;;•c�icel
�d �seh�,^-1 t�e�lt?�. t'e �t have �e�enr coo»cr:stlon hotwe^n eovorn:aen:� �n•' Sn3ustry
tp ,icvele•: control at�ndn.:drs. An�' t+i� ^ublic m.u�t br na� a+:ure L*:�Y. of£onr.ive noise
can Gc con�olle:3 an� r�vnt be nn�ie an.�: enotEwh to c!o r.onat+�ir.^ �abou� it."
. r,�g�� �i�re arc nucorow �c1�oo1� r•�i'�±in a t�� �iie ra�'i++r.- �',' t+�e Ar�!:a Co�mt��lain^
�;r:� nn? tt�e xonin.^. aroim•: �+e .Rir;�o±^b �es relrxe� �usSn- thc lr�s� ]e°f ,lntivt� seaeion�
I rroul:' 11!*.c tn fntro�luce into khe recoz"' a re±'oY`•% to ±,^ r"n'? on ?Fni^n r.��t C`�il.�irent
A rRVie�� of liY,er,^t�e, h,v John ti. &?i12r.� 1Mediral '�o:mrtr�ent, Univer�it�- of Sout'�
Ca_rolin+r C`��rlestow"•z, :�.�, '��ia <}ocursent iw a reviow of infor+��iion �?�ich c;aals
cilrec�l.� e3�� �he ei'.'ec'. of nois� on ehiL�ren.
Airart planners '�i>^;!e�t {�ro:�len in bu11:71n� air'+orY�+ in TX?I�?'. "_?'e .Tet mimg
has bo be ato,•!?e� at thn eoirce. 2he t:fetro�olitnn Airrortn Co-�irsaion in a cinnlo-
pur;.os. arenr,, wlio�e oolo ;+LSPO�c i� te consaroct eSrr�rts. It ap„eare that �Me
;ietro?,olftan Counci?'� recent ro2e has braa m+*�cl;• to r�ab!xr-ct'or"' t�+a f'o�fc3.e�: of the
i{A.^. A�SC�` ti7v+ Outro''.r.�' 1n t.OE7ix`��9 co:+-1Cx AOC1Ct:t� T!t0 riO101, :COble�! to121 h�vC tA bC
solve�l �forc ii�e t?e�ranolitan Air;�o^tt� Co�3se1on1an1nC�o�'t�hn� ��rnctnitlosi,lgrts
tn inilict tl�is he+slth hna�srd of TID�AP oh the Feo:•
513e =1n/� 0? ?Ian muat halt canstzvct4on of r�skuyr. �n^� txan a12 future �nstri�etion
at tlie pnd.;a Coimt�-%lainn Air:ort until the noiae �rot�le-+c ars aolve^. N; thc alrcY'eft
in<9uestr� enc'• air;:�ort Planntira!
I roeo�-�r:,i t2�at the Tkn/�ot rlen o;�sx+se the exr�anaio.^. oS the runl+�e��:� a`
th� Ano`a Count,y-^lalne Airrort. Incst�w-' of the an/�0" Plnn :+7.ocin� 3o muc`:
emsi,asic on tho role of atr tranarortation in tl�e ��:r���olltnn sreR, o�h^^ r�o�9o� of
grotmci tran�;�rtation �hould he ex�lora :� not r�eceeaaril;' Siie t�hto�-i Corridor. t.'�e
�pun.! trans;+ostation syetem foc thr jet,wrt Lhat is beinr }�ln�d nt tlia Arwkn Ca�usty-
ilainc Air;�ort.
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YARRS d� RECREATION COt4iISSION MEETING NOVEM�ER 27 1978 _ pp� 7
llr. Bwdreau stated the Department vas trying its best Co work up an on-
goiag program with the Universitq so they could, more nr lees, depend on
having an intera assigned to them each quarter. The University could not
-psamise this, though. He stated he had beea pleased with both the interns
tLe_Department had had so far.
$. -�FEW BIISINESS •
,�. 3leeting Scheduled for Next Year
3fr. Peterson stated that he vould like the Co�issian memb'ers to consider- ,�
:going to an every other month meeting type of arrangement in 1979. He
-�vas snre the same amount of work could be accc�plished and, according to
�.ts Charter, the Co�ission needed oaly to meet six times' a year.
�Sr. Bwdreau stated that maay times, they had to scrape to get enough
'together for the monthly agenda. The Commission had the capability of
talli.ng a special meeting wnenever it was necessarg. He felt it r�aas a
good idea, It would help staff as they were thinking of starting some
°•aeighborhood meetings similar to what was done last year vith park improve-
�eats. That would require a lot of staff time and evenings.
'�fOTI01Q by Betty MQCh, secooded by Robin Suhrbier, that beginaing ia
.Sauuarp 1979, the Comaission follow a six meetings a year type of
�ule as follovs:
��. 15 1979
2larch
�9
,Jnly
Sept.
Biov.
�iPCBV A 90ICE OOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CH1
'�1IOH CARRIED UiiANITfOIISLY.
�I.. ULD BIISII�ESS-
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A. F.Y.S.A. - Cancellation of Little League Lease
34r. $oudreau stated that the Commission members had a capy of the formal
ietter dated Nw�ber 27, 1978, from Gle� Van Hulzen to the City Council
terminating the Fridlev Little League lease. Zn accozdance with ci[y
legal counsel,since there vas no longer a Little League organization as
a separate entity, there uas no longer a lease agreement and therefore
it shoald be tenuinated. He stated that actioxt vas needed bv the
C�ission to receive the letter and concur and send it on to City Council.
i70'fION bp $obin Suhrbier, seconded by Leaaard Hoore, to receive the letter
dated November 27, 1978, from Glenn Van HuLzen to t6e City Council
requestin� that the Fridley Little League's present lease agreement
between the City of Fridley and the Fridley I,ittle League be terminated.
dTpon a voice vote, all wting aye, Chairperson Peterson declared the
�otion carried uaanimously.
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�ARRS & RECREATZON COPIIQISSION MEETING NQVEMfSER 27 1978 - PAGE 8
� �, F.Y.S.A. - Fee Proposal for 1979 (Letter to Yarka 6 Recreation
�Ca�ission from Glenn Van Hulzen dated November 27, 1978)
�
`�lr. Petereon stated that he had talked to Mr. Marvin Brunsell, City Clerk,
:sbout the fee proposal and Mr. Brunsell had stated that if the Commission
--adopted the proposal of charging a straight donation from the member
srrganization, such as A.A.E. and F.Y.S.A., the money could he accepted,
=deaignated and earmarked, held in trust, the city would invest it for us
-�t interest, and we would receive that share of the interest. The money
�would not have to be spent every year.
�ls. Mech stated she was concerned whether the fee would always stay the
�ame or would it increase with the cost of livingl
�Mr.:$wdreau stated he had talked to Mr. Van Hulzen about this, and
ilr, Van Hulzen had said that right now they were looking at $500 over what
#hey gave the city last year (of course, some of that would be offset by
.,3.ittle League participation), but at such a time as they found it to be
a s3isadvantage to their Association or the city found it to be a disadvantage,
�e could see no reason why the two could not sit down and readjust the
�mount .
�lr. Boudreau stated this was not a year-by-year agreement, but certainly
��endable at any poiut in time between the two.
i3z. Boudreau stated that one advantage was this would eliminate the stigma
af the "user's fee". Another advantage was that the money would go into
a Eund and would eaxa interest, the interest would accumulate, and would
ellow the city to improve some of its facilities on a routine basis or a
3arge facility. He could see no strong disadvantages.
�IDTION by Betty Mech, seconded by Robin Suhrbier, to accept with concurrence
Yhe F.Y.S.A.'s reconmmendation to abolish the present "user`s fee" and go
awi.th contributing an annual fee earmarked annually for improvement and/or
�evelopment of existing or new Fridley parks aad recreation facilities.
IIpon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Peterson,declared the
•motiou carried unanimously.
C. 3.ions Club Request - Een�inQ of Moore Lake
2'&'. Boudreau stated that Mr. Mike Murphy of the Lions Club was present
to request that the Commission consider the renaming of Moore Lake.
He stated he would like to congratulate the Lions Club for putting on a
dinner for both the Fridley Grace High School and the Fridley High School
foo[ball teams that participated in the state,
iSr. Murphy stated that the Fridley Lions Club was a coo�unity organization
�nd was concerned about what happened around Fridley. He presented
3ir. Boudreau with a check for $1,200 for insurance for the bus they had
helped obtain for the City of Fridley,
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-Pl1RKS � RECREATION COt�ItRSSION MEETING, NOVLMBE& 27 1978 - PAGE 9
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�lr. Hurphy stated that che Lions had picked Maore Lake for what they
�hoped could hecome a lony, term project in the city. They had donated t�e
�lag pole and the fountain that had been in the lake. He stated he was
aot at the meeting to ask tha t the name be changed because they would like
:that, but because they had developed some long range goals and bad plaris,
.and vould Like, in conjunction vith the city, to fulfill those`¢goals:
_Same of those goals were--
-Development of asphalt paths azound the park .
---Possibility of putting in an irrigatioa system
-Shoreline imprwement along the lake
I'urchase of new playground equipment •^:y��`-�
�-£urchase of uew beach equipment
-Purchase new lifeguard boat and lifeguard aquipment
-�epair old walk bridge and put up another new bridge
—Develop some co�unity involvement in developing flower
garden in arra near ilag pole ,.
-idould be willing to work on project in rejuvenating Moore Lake
-�ir."Murphy stated they vould like to do these thin.gs and wauld like a little
:�it of recognition for scme of the things they could do tfiere. They wauld
:like to be identified in the comnunity with one specific major project.
He stated they were asidng that Moore Lake Park be renamed Moore Lake
=.%ious Park. �
3Ir. Boudreau stated he would concur that �or the future of parks aad
recreation development with the tighteni.ng of funcis, etc., that Fridlep
�as not aut of step or out o£ line with wnat other communities were "
doing in naming :,ome of its nark areas after big contributors, not oaly
�oney-wise, but with manpower, i3eas, and thoughts. The city had already
�et precedence for it with the Jaycee's hocicey rink and the H.A.F. hockey
3ink. He staied that, per Co�ission request, it vas advertised ia the
gaper that this item would be on the Ca�ission's agenda, and he had not
�eard any objections.
?IO'TION by Robin Suhrbier, seconded by Leonard Moore, to rec�mend to
�City Council that Moore Lake Park be renamed Moore Lake Lians Park.
�poa a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairpersoa Feterson declared t}te
aotion carried unanimously.
!!r, Peterson tfianked Mr. Murphy for coming to the meeting. He stated
that Mr. Boudreau would notify Mr. Mutphy whea this item would be oa
tbe City Coimcil agenda.
D. Discussion of Facilitv Fee Schedule for 1979
Hr. Boudreau stated that the C�ission had been given some material on
�hat the City of Maplevood did as far as a fee schedule. He stated he �
and Mr. Kirk had discussed this at Length and saould like the Co�issioa's
guidance on vhat should they set a fee for if they were going'to have
a facility use fee? Should they break it down into city-sponsored
:groups with no user's fee, non-sponsored groups wtth a fee, and non- •
residents with a fee?
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November 27, 1978
Fridley City Council:
The Fridley Little League was formally accepted as a division
of the Fridley Youth Sports Association on September 12, 1978. As
a result of this action, the Fridley Little League is no longer a
separate entity. Therefore, the Fridley Youth Sports Association
is requesting a termination of the present lease agreement between
the City of Fridley and the fridley Little League. ,
The FYSA agrees to turn over all improvements and maintenance
equipment to the Park, Recreation and Natural Resource Department
upon acceptance of the following items which are in keeping with
present FYSA and Park, Recreation and Natural Resource agreements
in all other sports.
(1) Termination of present Little League and City
agreement.
(2) Little League 4l1�� schedule use of present fields
with Park, Recreation and Natural Resource Department.
(3) Park, Recreation and Natural Resource Department will
maintain fields.
(4) All present improvements on L-ittle League fields will
become Park, Recreation and Natural Resource property.
(5} Fridley Youth Sports Association will retain storage
and concession rights in present concession stand and
maintain the concession stand to meet accepted health
requirements.
(6) Continue this excellent working relationship between
FYSA and fridley Park, Recreation and Natural Resource
Department.
Thank you.
���.-,.� �2� ,
Glenn Van Hulzen �/�
FYSA President
November 27, 1978
Fridley Parks and Recreation Commission:
The Fridley Youth Sports Association is proposing the
abolishment of the present "user's fee" which is assessed on
a per participant basis. �
As an alternative to this present system, the FYSA would
agree to contribute $2500 annually earmarked for improvement
and/or development of existing or new Fridley Parks and
Recreation facilities. The allocation of these funds would
be accomplished only upon mutual agreement of the FYSA and
the Parks and Recreation Department. The proposed amount
exceeds 1978's total user's fee by more than $500. The
prospect of seeing the fee go directly to park facilities
proves to be enough of an advantage to justify the additional
cost to the FYSA.
Thank you.
,
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Glenn Van Hulzen � ��'A'
FYSA President
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July 13, 19?�
The FY�idley Lions� at �heir June &�ard rzeetinv9 voLed nn3nimously
to yrovide the Citiy of Fi-idley 4rith ti1�20v ior insurance of c:,e bus
previously donated to ti�e Cour.ty of Anoka. ide hope �.lis �r! 11 be of
� great beneiit to the rarrs and P.ecreat_on D:;nartn��nL an3 �he resld:,nts
of `rY-idley. It is assured, of coi:r�e9 thet the F`!idley I: ons nyy have
use of tne bus uoon pro�er no�iiication to tne I�ic'iey rz:Y.s and Recre-
zi.ion D��^`�r..en�,
lhe r`_�.dley Iaoivs have long been act�ve 'in comr.uni�y irr�o].ve;ierrE
an3 have tal:en special pride in h�rr.in; closel;�� f�°ith tne ��r:�s an3 Rec-
rea�icn D��, a: �i�er.to A s?ecial inte.est hzs becn �a?:en in �he cerelo�-
nent �f };oore Ial;e °ark. Several Yrojects :.zce been =unde:i �' y'•-e
Frid?ey Lions an3 we ant:cipat° Sun3i� furt.her projects at 1;oore Ial�e
Pask. ITse to our lo:� te?�;n CO:^PL''�i.T°Ilt� the FY2dley Lions �:ou_ld reou2sT..
that the Parks and Recreation Co�,�ssion consider renur.�rg I.aore I.1:e
:ar;; as I�ore ?aY.e I3or.s £ark.
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CfiAftTER COMMISSION MEETING
NOVErII3ER 21, 1978
CALL TO ORDIIt
Chairperson Ash called the meeting to order at 7:40 P.M.
120LL CALL
t•SEMBERS PRESENT: Clifford Ash, Elaine Knoff, Jackie Johnson,
Ken Brennan, John Swanson, Charles Langer,
David Berg, Jean Sche11 (arrived late), Arne
Takkunen, Peter Treuenfels, Tim Breider, and
Bob Pierce
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jerry Ratcliff and Walt Starwalt
OTHERS PRESENT: Nasim Qureshi, City Manager
Mr. Ash stated the Coammission needed to approve the minutes of the
�ast meeting dated Octaber 17, 1978.
MOTION by Ms. Ynoff, seconded by Mr. Berg, to approve'the minutes
of the last meeting of October 17, 1978. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Pir. Ash stated the ne�ct step would be election of officers for
next year. He asked for any other nominations from the floor.
There were none.
t40TI0N by Mr. Brennan, seconded by Mr. Berg, that the secretary be
instructed to cast the ballot for the candidates proposed by the
Nominating Co�ittee.
The new officers are Clifford Ash, Chairperson, Charles Langer,
Vice Chairperson and ,Tean Schell, Secretary.
2. REVISIONS TO CODL�fIS�ION CH4RTER
Mr. Ash stated it is actually the Charter Co�ission's Charter.
We can now revise our own Charter. Mr. Ash stated the only rule
we have had a problem with is a quorum.
Mr. Swanson asked if the Commission could determine the quorwn.
Pir. Ash stated we could determine that by ourselves. Sde have 15
members and our quorum is eight. He stated to change the quorum
we would need a two-thirds vote.
Mr. Pierce asked if the Commission could transact business if a
quorum is not called for.
Mr. Ash stated we never have. .
Mr. Pierce s[ated it mi�ht be a good way to go on routine ma[ters.
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PAGF. 2 CHARTER COMMISSION MTETING November 21 1978
MOTION by Mr. Swanson to change the quorum number to five. Mr.
Berg seconded the motion.
t4r. Ash ask'ed for discussion on the motion.
Mr. Ash stated it gets discouraging when you do not have a quorum.
If we had a quorum of five that might motivate people to participate.
Mr. Brennan stated he would speak against the motion because of the
provision of the democratic process. He stated he felt there was
another way of doing it. He proposed we could change the requirement
so it would allow the Commisson to conduct any 3tem on.the agenda
unless there was an objection.
Mr. Swanson stated you could have two people here and do all kinds
of.things without having an objection. That would be dangerous.
Mr. Berg stated he would like to offer an amendment to the motion
changing the number of the quorum to seven. Mr. Ianger seconded
the amendment.
AMENDMENT TO MOTION to change the number of the quorum from five
to seven members.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the amendment to motion carried
unanimously.
Mr. Ash stated we will now vote on the Motion of chang3ng the Charter
rule on quorum number from eight to seven.
Upon a vo�.ce vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Ash asked for any reports from the new officers.
There were none.
Pir. Ash stated we invited the City Administration to come to the
meeting tonight to co�nent on questions addressed to Mr. Qureshi
in a letter from ?1r. Ash dated October 25, 1978,
Mr. Langer asked before we go into that item, he had a question.
Aow many members qualified do we have now.
Mr. Ash stated fourteen, with one opening. Iie stated we had received
two resumes from Bob Peterson and Carroll Hauge. AIr, Ash stated he
had not submitted these names to the Judge yet.
Mr. Pierce asked if the Commission would consider changing their
meeting night. He stated he would like to serve on any other Tuesday
night but the third.
MOTION by Mr, Langer, seconded by Dis. Johnson, to change the Charter
Commission`s meeting night from the third Tuesday of the month to the
first Tuesday of the month. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously.
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PAGE 3 � CiiARTER COMMISSION MEF.TING November 21 1978
Mr. Ash atated we have a number of openings coming up in January.
We have one opening now and three in January for a total of four.
MOTION by Mr. Swanson, seconded by Mr. Langer, to submit the request
for the four openings in January. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Ash stated we should get more names to submit before January.
3. OLD BUSINESS
None .
4. NEW BUSINESS
None
5. OPEN DISCUSSION WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION
1. See letter dated October 25, 1978 to Nasim Qureshi, City Manager
Mx. Ash thanked Mr, Qureshi for coming to the meeting...
Mr. Qureshi stated he felt most of the questions posed in the letter •
were policy matters. He stated his response would be more of a pro
and con opinion to the questions.
1. Should the Mayor and/or Administration give a State-of-the
City Message annually?
Mr. QuYeshi stated there were pros and cons to this question. It
would better inform the people in the community. But it would also
cost money, although minimal. Potentially this could �e another
medium avai3able to the parting power.
2. Ref. Section 2.07 - After setting their salaries, should the
Council members stand for re-election before receiving an increase?
Mr. Qureshi stated he was sure the Coummission was aware that the
city budget was adopted before election time. The state statute
eays you cannot pre-empt it, as long as the thing is adopted before
the election. Only two out of five really stand for election and
the other ones can do it a year later or two years later.
Mr. Langer stated the precedent was broken by this Congress and by
this Legislature. They raised their own pay while they were in office.
Mr. Qureshi stated that could probably not happen in the City of Fridley.
Mr. Langer stated some councilmen would be voting Eor a raise while
he is in office. IIe asked Mr. Qureshi if the salaries of councilmen
have been raised lately.
Mr. Qureshi stated the salaries have been established for about six
years.
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Mr. Pierce stated the Charter could set a ceiling or set a limit of
the amount of annual increase.
Mr. IIreider stated if we are going to the down to the point of
discussing official salaries within the city, we should at least
attempt to establish a guideline in which they should work in
raising their salaries.
Mr. Ash stated he wanted to return to question lil. He asked Mr. Qureshi
how he would feel if the City Manager.was to give the State-of-the-City
message and not the Mayor.
Mr. Qureshi stated he felt the Council is the policy-making body
of the city. They set the direction. He stated he felt his position
was adminstrative and the 2•fayor should represent the city in functions
of that type. It should be the responsibility of the Mayor or the
Council.
3. Should there be a li_mit on expenditures for opponents to a
petition? Should they also file with the City if they organize
themselves?
Mr. Qureshi stated that would also be in the political area. There
was an amendment made to the Charter limiting how much money people
�re going to spend. ;dhere do you stop. If it is appropriate and
within the legal authority to limit the expenditures of the petitioners�
it would be probable you could do the same with the people who filed
the petition.
Mr. Pierce asked how could it be policed.
Mr. Qureshi stated it was a difficult thing.
4. Should the City Manager serve totally at the pleasure of
the City Council making the job political?
Mr. Qureshi stated the role of the City Manager has to be totally
accountable to the City Council.
5. Ref. Section 7.02 - Should there be a limit on the money
spent in addition to the mill limitation? Something like limit dollar
increases in the budget to the rate of inflation plus 1 or 2 percent.
Mr. Qureshi stated that is a policy item also. There is already a
levy limit in the City Charter. The mill levy has been changing.
The State Legislature has provided high levels of exemptions by
homesteads. Before 1976 it used to be the first 12,000. In 1977
they raised the limit to 13,000 at 25Y. In 1978 we have it at
15,000 at 22y, and the less at 36% and now in 1979, it is 20% - 17,000
and 33-1/3�. The same mill is actually raising less dollars because
of the new evaluation formula. This year our mill rate is about 15
mills and our mill proposed for next year is 14.97. The increase on
homes is going to be less than 1% even though you assume that the
value of each home as increased 10%. Values are increasing. Even
though your home has increased 15%, the maximum you can by law increase
the evaluation on your home is 10%.
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So say your houae is worth $50,000 and next year $55,000 and we are
15 mills, there will be no increase basically'in your actual tax
dollara.
�e second limit which has been proposed by the State Legislature
is a dollar limit. If you raised 100,000 last year through taxes,
all you can raise it is 6% this year. If our population increased
1,000 we could only increase 6.7% amount of tax dollars for 1979.
All we can do is increase our budget through local taxes 6%.
Mr. Ash asked how long that had been in effect.
Mr. Qureshi stated since 1973. The budget is composed of taxes raised
by local taxes. Generally in the City of Fridley they have been running
about iOY. That comes from local taxes. Other revenues come from
licenses, fines, etc. Other elements are revenue sharing and state
aid.
Mr. Ash stated that the tax figures from 1973 to 1977 the general
tax base was just over a million and now it is a bit under two
million. The tax dollars have almost been 100%.
Mr. Qureshi stated ihere was room to go up. There were a Iot of new
programs mandated by the State like the tree disease control program,
mandatory planning, etc, and they mandated these programs.
Mr. Ash stated you are saying the State came in and said you will do
these things and you will find the money to do it.
Mr. Qureshi stated yes, and Chey stated they would not charge against
the 6% limit that is provided.
Mr. Brennan asked Mi. Qureshi if those state mandated exempted programs
expire, will that money be reduced.
2•fr. Qureshi stated yes, unless the law changes.
6. Should there be a limit on the.n�ber of terms a person can
serve on the Council?
Mr. Qureshi stated they checked with the League of Cities to see if
there were some communities who did limit the terms and no one does.
7. Should the Council increase in size now that Fridley is much
larger than when the Charter was adopted.
Ptr. Ash stated the Charter was adopted in 1957. We have increased quite
a bit in size.
Mr. Qureshi stated he felt the City of Fridley probably has one of the
best set-ups. We have three wards, one at large and one Mayor.
He stated Edina, with double the population of has five.
Same with Richfield.
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Mr. Pierce asked Mr. Qureshi if any communities have six governing
bodies.
�, Qureshi stated they usually have five or seven.
Mr. Breider stated from the standpoint of population growth vs. number
of councilmen, he did not feel it necessary to say that because the
populatian grows you should have more councilpeople. He felt that
most of the constitutes' complaints were of a variety of chuckholes
in my street, storm sewers backing up, etc. Those services have to
be provided by competent staff at the city level. That kind of thing
doesn't get fixed by having more councllneople:
8. Should newly created Boards, Committees, etc. have a termina-
tion date or is rejustification necessary for further existence?
Mr. Ash asked how many new Boards are created per year or how often
do they come up.
�, Qureshi stated the city has different stages of growth. As the
city grew more issues and problems came up. In 1973 and 1974 the
administration had a n�ber of different Commissions and Boards
that had to outlive their need. The recommendation was made and
the Council limited the mmmber of Commissions and then added a few
imore. If the Charter Commission feels there should be a provision
where every so often they have to rejustify their position, there are
some advantages. Again, that is a policy matter.
,�, Qureshi stated one of the things that was provided in this
Commission structure under the Planning Commission was project
co�ittees. :hese coimnittees would have a limited 1ife. There
are a number of these such as bikeway-walkway cor,imittee, etc.
i�. Ash asked if these were done by ordinance.
Mr. Qureshistated the committees were not created by ordinance but
an ordinance provides the mechanism for the committees. These Co�ttees
make recommendations and then are phased out.
P�. Pierce asked Mr. Quershi if it wouldn't he better if the Council
approve these committees.
�'• Qureshi stated you have different levels - first the P=oject
Cq�uittee, then the Commission level, then the Planning Commission
and finally the Council. The recort¢nendations of the Project
Committee has to funnel through all of these before it finally
gets to the Council.
Mr, lsh asked if the Plannin� Commission could stop recommendations
from the Project Convnittee to the Council.
rir. �reshi stated no, but they can comment on it and give their
recommendations to tl�e Council.
9. Can a uerson hold more than one elective office?
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Mr,Qureslii stated the rule is the requirement of conflict interest.
There is no clear direction.
Mr. Breider stated he felt it depends upon the city.
Mr. Langer stated when we discussed this originally we were talking
about a City Councilman running for the I.egislature or County
Commissioner. Would he resign one to run for the other.
Mr. Ash stated he would not have to resign to run its if he got
elected. Could a first ward coyncilman run for Mayor� and hold
both offices. The Charter doesn't say anything about that.
Mr. Pierce stated he wondered if the Statute wouldn't cover that.
10. Should there be a fair campaign practices section?
Mr. Qureshi stated it is an extremely difficult thing to control.
Maybe you could ask your attorney for a legal opinioa.
Mr. Ash stated we have had two inputs now on voting results and one
thing would be to have an automatic recount on close elections.
Mr. Brennan read a letter from the Fridley League of Women Voters.
�(Attached to these minutes)
Mr. Quresni stated the Council has an interest in this and has
asked the Charter Commission to look at this.
11. Siiould the Charter have something on ethics of Council
members and City Administration?
Mr, Qureshi stated the Council is all for this.
12. Ref. Section 2.05 - Should there be a change on how
vacancies of unexpired terms of Councilmen are filled.
�, Qureshi stated previously it was an annointed office now it
provides in the new charter that there has to be elections. A
special election has to be held within 45 days and not more than 60
days from the time the vacancy was declared.
Mr. Ash stated the Commission was pretty well informed on this.
1Ir. Ash asked if there were any more cotmnents or questions.
Mr. Ash stated he had one more thing to bring up. If you need a
clerk in the city that clerk can only be hired by the Council, is
that true?
Mr. Qureshi stated all appointments have tb be made by the Mayor
and concurred by the City Council.
Mr. Ash asked if he thou�lit it would be more efficient if that
right was given to, the City Manager with say the exception of
department heads and possibly assistant departnent heads would
only be subject to council approval.
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T4r.Qureshi stated no. There really has been no problem in this
area in the past.
:4r. Ash stated it might be more efficient to have the Council take
juat the key important jobs.
Mr. Swanson stated where do you start and where do you stop.
Mr. Ash asked if there were any other questions.
Mr. Treuenfels stated regarding recount of close elections, if the
League of Women Voters has done any research on this maybe they
could share their findings with the Commission.
Mr. Ash stated they would be invited to our January meeting.
Mr. Ash asked if we should meet in December.
I�TION by Mr, Breider, seconded by Mr. Langer, to not have a meeting
in December. tipon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
The next meeting will be January 2, 1979.
The Commission thanked Mr. Qureshi for attending the meeting and
for his input. Zt was greatly appreciated by all.
\ i•SOTION by Mr. Langer, seconded by Mr. Swanson, to adjourn the meeting.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously and
the meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.?i.
Respectfully submitted,
!�-�� �°�
Gayle ben
Recording Secretary
Attachment
Fridley Leaoue of• Ylomen Voters (� �.�
�•6716 7th St. NE
Fridley, i•!n, 55432
Fridley Charter Commission Nov. 21, 19'l8
As you know, k�tct,� one of the tasks of the League of 'riomen Voters is to pro-
mote Sair and efficient election procedures. The results of the recent
council election in the first ward would in3icate that there is 'a fla:� in
the efficiency of the process.
�1 recount has been c�lled � to decide finally the results of a very close
race, "r:e Seel that the current recount procedure� impose an unfair burden
on both the "winaer" and ths unsucce;sful candidate wno challenges the results,
Litigation is @xpansive and tins-consur.iin� £or th�: ir.dividuals involved.
IL is yn utr.id�ayr;���;;� k'iliCil 12:�lilT'CS �ne la•,r,�er co "build a case"for re-
count, To do tnis, he/she is required to bring ir.to question the validity
of the eletion procdure an�Pt�e_i�nypority of harc-uorking elaction o£ficials.
This seems to us a highly�,-�;L•cu.�F�tE-waya-�r to a positive conclusion.
Y;e su�gest that this is a aituation Lo :•;hich the r:idley Charter Co.�:u*iission
shoald address itself. An ordinance governing a,n automaiic recount i.� close
elec�ions :�ould :,ee�a to be in order. Perhaps a percentage oS iota]_ votes cast
or a finite quantity could b-� adopted as a criiericn for recount, lhis ::as
baen done at the state lev�l and in othcr cities.
An�uutomatic recount �:ould facilitate a smootner transition �n goverrunent,
protecc tne i.nteg�ity of the elecieon proc:�s;, and ensure the oest possible
clit:�te ior prospactive candidzte5.
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1Sa look forward to assisting you in any- �,ray Fossible in 'L=--3�:i-- yQSPar�h�hQ
tti�5 �at�ey,
Sincerely�,
Patricia 3:ennen
.
Presiden:
Fri.iley Leaoua of l�cmen Voters
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CABL� TV PUBLIC HEARITIG ME�TIPIG
January 9, 1979
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Kaspszak called the neeting to order at 7:30 P.;4.
MF.�iBERS PRESENT: Edward Kaspszak, Larry Chevalier, Harold Belgum,
Carolynn Blanding and Burt Weaver
MEMBERS ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
None
Mayor Nee
Councilman Schneider
Councilman Hamernik
Councilman Barnette
Councilman Fitzpatrick
Clyde t4oravetz
Blake Balzart
Greg Gerard, GTV
Pam Anderson, GTV
Douglas }tedin, Attorney
Jim Erickson,Legal Counsel
for Storer
Jim Daniels, Northern Cablevision
Sherry Blohn, State Cable Board
Vicky Long, State Cable Board
David Dubois, St. Paul
Ken Brennan, Fridley
Mark Scott, rridley
John Eddy, Bloomington
APPROVE CATV C0:�IISSION MItIUTES: P10VII�IBER 29 1978
MOTION by Mr. Chevalier to apnrove the minutes of November 29, 1978.
Seconded by Mr. Weaver. tipon a voice vote, all voting aye the mot'ion
carried unanimously.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: T2ANSFER OF O��TNERSHIP AND ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS
A. The purpose of this Public Hearing is to receive comments on:
1. The proposed transfer of ownership within General Televisfon
of Minnesota, Inc., and
2. The proposed amendments to the Cable Television Ordinance.
MOTION by Mr. Belgum, seconded by Ms. Blanding, to open the public
hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. The public hearing was ooened at 7:37 P.P1.
Mr, Itaspszak stated Mr. fIedir. had written a suggested format for the
public hearing and each Coffinission memUer had received one. This format
will be used to conduct the hearing. Mr. Yaspszak stated the first
item will be � proposal by Storer Broadcasting and then an open
discussion from the Commission and audience.
Mr. Erickson stated he was present to represent Northern Cablevision.
He stated he had no formal presentation. He had received Mr. Hedin's
suggested format and was ready to address the questions. He stated
they had previously made several presentations as to what their
interests are. He stated they have a legitmate business purpose in
adquiring this franchise. Storer Broadcasting is not acquiring the
franchise as a securities to trade. That has not been their history.
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Mr. irickson stated Mr. Daniels is presenC to relate to the Commission
the status of other Mi.nnesota projects. fle stated they are ready to
answer any questions the Commission or the audience may have. They
had been advised of the general nature of the proposed ordinance
amendments which have been discussed from time to time and they will
provide in writing their comments with respect to those proposed
amendments. :le stated they bought the franchise or moved acquire it
with full knowledge of what was in the fr2nchise prior to any proposed
amendments and obviously those franchise terms were acceptable to
Storer.
Mr. Kaspszak stated Mr. IIedin's format would be followed. The first
item is:
1. Financial Ability. Will Storer Cable TV of Delaware, Inc., have
the financial ability to operate, expand and improve the existing
Fridley cable television system? Will Storer Broadcasting Company,
the parent, guarantee the obligations of Storer Cable TV of Delaware,
Inc., its wholly-ewned subsidiary, in this regard?
Mr. Erickson stated they had previously provided to the Commission
a copy of their financial statement for 1977 from Storer Broadcasting.
As soon &s the 1978 one i� available the Co�nission will receive that.
He stated Storer as made a commitment of at least $100 million for the
acquisition and development of cable television in the years 1978, 1979
is sufficient testament for their financial ability to acquire this
� system and operate it as it should be. General Te�evision is merging
into a wholly-owned subsidiary oi Storer Broadcasting. They will have
the option of taking stock or takinp, cash. He stated it is anticipated
this will close sometime i.n February. He stated Storer stands behind
and will fully fund as necessary the new operating entity.
T•ir. Kaspszak stated maybe Mr. F.rickson should explain the legal gymnastics
that this merger is going through.
Mr. Erickson stated General Television, Inc. is a corporation which is
going to merge into a new corporation which is known as Storer Cable
TV of Delaware, Inc. Ae read a letter he had sent to Clyde Moravetz
dated December 4, 1978 explaining the proposed merger. l�e stated
General Television of Minnesota, Znc. is one of several operating
subsidiaries of General Television, Inc. and they will leave the
company and franchise operating in Fridley in General Television of
Minnesota, Inc. There will be no change in that entity. It is the
entity that owns General Television of Minnesota, Inc. that is General
Television, Inc. which merge into Storer Cable TV of Delaware, Inc.
Mr. :ioravetz stated in a letter dated December 20th from Mr. �rickson
to PSr. l:asnszak he indicated that l�orthern Cablevision, Inc. will not
operate or own the Fridley CaUle Television System. fTtiat is the
relationship between Storer Cable TV of Delaware and Northern Cable-
vision�
Mr. �rickson stated all those subsidiaries will be wholly-owned
subsidiaries of Storer Broadcasting Company, ilorthern Cablevision,
Inc. is the wholly-uwned sabsidiary formed for the purpose of applying
for franchises in the Southwest and Northwest Cable Service Territory.
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Tir. Erickson stated that is one wholly-o•aned subsidiary of Storer
Broadcasting Comnany. The second wholly-owned subsidiary of Store
will be General Television, Inc. and a third will be Northern
Cablevision, Inc. of Minneapolis. Others may be formed.
Mr. Kaspszak asked Mr. Erickson if he would supply the Commission
with a financial statement of the Fridley system.
Pir. Erickson stated whatever information we received from General
Television as it presently operates they will provide.
2. Technical Abilit . Does Storer have the technical e}cpertise
and background to operate, exnand and improve the existing Fridley
cable television system?
Mr. Erickson stated yes, Storer does have the technical e�cpertise.
3. Motivation for MerQer. lloes Storer have a bonda fide commercial
reason or legitimate business motive for acquiring GTV? In the
past, some municipal CATV franchises--St. I.ouis Park may be a case in
point--iiave been acquired by a company, wfiich does not actively
operate or improve it, but then later transfers it for profit. The ,�
Commission should obtain an assurance from Storer that this will not
happen in Fridley.
Mr. Erickson stated he didn't believe they could give us that
� assurance. He stated he felt that wasn't an appropriate question.
He stated they were acquiring the franchise to construct and operate
this franchise as well and profitably as they can. He stated he can
give the Commission the assurance that they are not trafficing in the
franchise. They intend to come in to spend money and provide service
and make a profitable system.
Mr. Kaspszak stated what we are looking for is some assurance that
they are coming in to operate a system which will serve the city
of Fridley residents and their needs and not coming in for purooses
of corporate accounting for tax purposes. We want to be proud of
this system.
'9x'. Daniels stated it is their intent to make it operable.
4. Goad Character. Has Storer or its subsidiary been the subject
of suits or disciplinary proceedings by state or federal CATV
regulatory agencies or been the object of subscriber complaints in
other municipalities? An inquiry into the "good character" of
Storer is required by MCCC Regulation 132.
Mr. �rickson stated their record stands for itself. As far as suits
or disciplinary proceedings he is not aware of any. That question
will be passed on to Storer at the national level.
Mr. Kaspszak stated to Mr. Erickson that maybe he should summarize
the answers to these questions and give them to the Council.
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'4r. Belgum asked Mr. Erickson about the Decem6er.15 issue of the
Minneapolis Star reFarding cable TV. If theze are 10 companies
larger than Storer how is it going as far as competition goes.
Mr. Lrickson stated he could speak only for Storer. They are the
lOth largest MSO (Multiple System Operator) in the company in terms
of subscribers. They have approximately 225,000 subscril�ers.
Mr. Belgum asked Mr. �rickson if any of these were inter-locked�with
newspapers, radio or television.
`�. Erickson stated yes, Time, Inc. owns KTC which might be the
third largest MSO in the country. A lot of MSO's are divisions
of larger companies.
5. Compliance with Fridley Ordinance. Is Storer able and willing
to comply with all terms of the esisting and amended City ordinanceY
Does Storer object to any particular provision of the ordinance or
have reservations about the legality of any provision of the ordinance?
Mr. Erickson stated we reviewed the existing ordinance at the time
we first entered into the agreement and we are willing and able to
comply with those. 47e would like to be provided with a written copy
of the proposed amendments and we will in turn provide our written
comments.
Mr. P.aspszak sYated he wanted to mention a particular instance that
� just happened. A call was made to GTV asking them for an additional
hook-up within the same household and they wanted to know what it
would cost. ?�e were told $10 for the iastall.ation and $S.OD or $5.50
service per month. The ordinance states the charge will be $7.50 for
every installation and $1.50 for service. This type of thing we want
to get away from.
Mr. Erickson stated they will abide by the terms of the ordinance.
Mr. Gerard stated the particular instance in question includes paid
television. ;iore than just basic.
Mr. Raspszak stated we will need a clarification of that.
G. Experience in Plinnesota and Elsewhere. .dhat has Storer`s experience
been in Bloomington and St. iouis Park, ;iinnesota, after it acquired
the franchises in those two cities? Tdhat has Storer's exnerience been
in cable television in other municipaliites in other states?
Mr. I:aspszak stated the City staff had contacted four other municipali-
ties and had asked specific questions of them. He asked for Mr. Moravetz
or Mr. Balzart to give a staff report.
:fr. Balzart stated he had done a telephone survey of Storer's operation
in Pratville, �labama, i�airfield, California, Arcadia, Florida and
Ban6ridge, Georgia. Mr, llalzart asked them several questions as follows:
Do present operations in your community indicaCe a strong financial
backin� by Storer Broadcasting ComnanyY
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What is Storer`s record of cooperation with your city? Do
they abide by the franchise agreement? What problems, if
any, have arisen iri the past? .Haye they participated in
any fund raising?
Does Storer Broadcasting provide local origination and
programming? If riot, why not? If yes, is it what you
desire? How could they improve? Also are there facilities
for public access?
Overall, do you ap�rove of the performance record of Storer
Broadcasting in your couununity?
Mr. Balzart stated he could give his own nersonal endorsement to
Storer Broadcasting Comnany because of these interviews. It was
unanimous in the four communities that Storer performed excellently
in their cammunity. ihey have really had no problems. In one
community, Fairfield, California, they had some rate increases but
it was something that could be anticipated because of inflation.
A snecial case in point was A.rcadia, rlorida. Prior to the acquisition
by Storer, they were under another cable company and their services
were very poor and had a lot of complaints. Sdhen Storer did acquire
the franchise they made vast improvements and the complaints went down.
Mr. i3oravetz stated in conjunction with that he had received'a report
from Mr. Sorawl of Bloomington cahexe Storer had received outstanding
scores from franchises in South Carolina, California, Plorida and
� Alabama.
Mr. i:aspszak asked Mr. Daniels to report on what has happened in
Bloomington and St. Louis Park.
Mr. Daniels stated they were proud of their success in Bloomington.
Since they started their first marketing camnaign in October they
have acquired 850 subscribers. 11Iso, when they acquired Bloomington
it was about 2/3 complete and they have since entered into a contract
to ��ld the first phase of the westward expansion in Bloomingtion.
That is exnected to be complete in June. :1s far as St. i,ouis Park
goes, there is quite a bit of preliminary work to be done. ;•le anticipate
service in St. Louis Park some time in the summer.
Mr. DuBois stated he would like to know about local programming in
the co�unities interviewed.
:fr. Balzart stated most conununities did not have local programming.
�'ery few had very limited programming from the library.
Mr. DuBois asked if they had public access.
Mr. lialzart stated yes, they had the facilities but again it wasn't
utilized too much. Most of them caere smaller communities and the
people did not have much interest in it.
::r. Scott asked for more information about the marketing efforts
Storer had:
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Mr. Scott also asked how many of the 850 jusY connected in Bloomington
had dropped it.
Mr. Daniels stated very few disconnects. t.egarding marketing he stated
they use a number of different techniques depending upon what time
of:the year it is. Right now they are working up a Valentine special.
Mr. Scott asked if they gave discounts.
Mr. Daniels stated yes. The first one they had was an introductory
offer.The second promotion was geared around free turkeys, etc.
He stated they always have a deal for people who call up cold.
Mayor Nee stated he would be interested in learning more about local
origination in Bloomington.
Mr. Daniels stated they do about 30 hours pex week of local origination
programming. The bulk of this through American Cable Network. It is
syndicated programming. It is talk shows, etc.
Mr. i:aspszak asked Mr. Daniels what kind of progra�ing they were
airing now that is produced locally by local residents.
Mr. llaniels stated they do in-studio nroduction but very little of
„ that. It is kind of an up-hill battle. Its a hard thing to do.
iSr. I:aspszak asked t•Sr. Daniels how many hours per week.
:fr. Daniels stated less than one. He stated they do an affiliation
with the Bloomington video center through the cable commission.
ihat is a non-profit corporation that is set up by the City of
Bloomingtion through the local cable commission. That operation
is primarily to generate community interest tyoe programming. He
stated Mr. John Eddy was present at the meeting. Mr, Eddy is
the coordinator of this.
Mr. ::aspszak asked how many hours do they provide.
Mr. I:ddy stated four or five hours per week.
Mr. Weaver asked Mr. Lddy to characterize the type of programming
that is generated.
"s. Eddy stated it is to encourage and support individuals and
organizations in the community to produce programs about Bloomington.
He stated the main function was to talk to groups and individuals
about the potential of doing their own programming. Tae assist on
the production of programming.
iir. Kaspszak asked what this costs.
'_ir. �ddy stated there was no charge.
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2'Ir. Eddy stated they enjoy a real comfortable relationship with
Northern Cablevision.
Mr. �rickson stated he did not know the regulatory requirements
and the jurisdictions that were talked about in local origination
prograzmning in Storer but only in Minnesota does a franchise say
local origination has to be provided. That is not true nationwide.
He stated he did not want the implication left that they had an
obligation to provicle local access and were not doing so.
A1r. Kaspszak stated we have to make a distinction between local access
and local origination.
7. Other Topics.
a. Benefit to Subscribers. Ilow will the merger benefit the City
of Fridley and its CATV subscribers?
Mr. �rickson stated that the more subscribers that are attracted to
sign up for cable television for whatever reason, that is the comnany's
interest because they pay and the subsc�ibers interest because they
have made an independent choice that they wanted that service. tlore
people in Fridley will sign up for cable TV and therefore have the
benefit of what cable TV brings in terms of programming.
Mr. Daniels stated they are constantly on the look-out for product and
� services which will benefit the subscribers.
Ttr. Kaspszak stated would it be fair to sav that Storer is bringing
a � stronger finanancial ability than GTV.
Mr. Daniels stated yes.
Mr. i:aspszak asked Mr. Daniels what kind of assistance could the
Hommission expect from Che company.
:ir. Daniels stated 105�.
Mr. Scott stated Fridley once had local origination in form of a staff
of three people and public access director. T7i11 you have a 1oca1
origination staff and nublic access director?
Mr. Daniels stated he could not determine that right now.
Mr. i�eaver stated to Mr. Daniels if he would state what their position
will be with regard to the operation of the Fridley fr�nchise.
Mr. ilaniels stated it is his intent to come in here and operate the
thing, add subscribers, etc.
Mr. Tleaver asked Mr. Daniels if he would personally be in charge of
this operation.
ttr. Daniels stated yes, St. Louis Park and any other they acquire.
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Mr. Belgum stated he had talked to Tom Myhra who was on the first
Co�ission and asked him if he could look �ack on any serious error
they made that he would do flifferent today and he said one thing:
he thought that something to the effect of a written guarantee or
written agreement that a certain element of budget, equipment and
professional know-iiow would be contributed from the company to aid
the Commission in making sure that the community well-ueing is served.
:•]ould Mr. Daniels be inclined to put something like that in writing
or would you be open to an ordinance which included that wording.
Mr. Daniels stated they do a certain percentage of that already in
form of franchise fees that we pay back.
Mr. P.aspszak asked Mr. Daniels if he would be receptive to a written
agreement stating that under certain conditions that would have to
be negotiated that you would be willing to put x nianber of hours to
local origination.
Mr. Daniels stated yes.
i4r. Daniels stated he would lean towards the situation in Bloomingtoq.
Mr. Hedin stated any agreement that the Commission mi�ht enter into
with the company on local origination should be in the ordinance.
To have something outside the ordinance is very risky.
� Mr. Brennan asked P4r. Daniels if he supplied the Bloomington workshop
with free use of tfie studio facilities.
Mr. Daniels stated yes
b. Local Origination. Covered above.
c, d.ccess Channels. What is the comnany's experience and
policy regarding the public, educational and governmental
access channels? Does Storer have any suggestions on how
the use of Fridley`s access channels can be improved and
increased?
Mr. Daniels stated our policy is simple - we provide them. _;s far
as suggestions it is difficult for them to suggest anything about
access because once they go in and start directing access it doesn't
become access any more because of something the company is doing.
Along those lines one of the most successful things is the video center
and our support of them. �
Mr. .:aspszak asked Mr. Daniels if he personally or the company have
any quarrel with the access channel allocation as it currently exists
in Fridley.
Mr. ilaniels stated he would like to see lot's of it.
`:r. Kaspszak asked what would lots mean.
tfr. Daniels stated he would like to see all three of the public access
channels utilized 15 or 16 hours a day.
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Mr. Kaspszak stated at this point do you prefer that as opposed
to taking over the channel yourself.
Mr. llaniels stated yes.
Mr. Belgum asked Mr. ilaniels if Bloomington had a connection in the
school system and could he SaY a word about that.
"�Ir. Daniels stated there is a two-;aay link with one of the local
high schools - Jefferson-Bloomington. At one point in time they
had one of the most sophisticated studio camera set-ups of the three
local high schools in Bloomington. Jefferson does programming from
that location, it comes back to the head- end and it is siminated again
out on the foreward leg of the cah7;e system to the subscribers.
They do have a difficult time programming any hours on it at all.
:ir. Belg� stated he ma�1e a very strenuous effort to get the Board
of �ducation and the Superintendent and Principal to come to the
meeting tonight but there is a Board of Education meeting at this
time.
Mr. Erickson stated he would like to make a suggestion to the
Commission and that would be to take the 5% fee and do like they
did in Bloomington, dedicate to help encourage that programming.
d. Interconnection. [dhat are Storer`s long-range plans for
� interconnection of the Fridley system with other metropolitan
cable television systems?
Mr. Erickson stated the company will abide by the state.rules.
Mr. kaspszak stated let's assume we have interconnection today and
there were systems in St. Louis Park and Bloomington and you wanted
to air those here in Fridley what channels would they be on.
Mr. Erickson stated whatever your local access channels are.
Mr. Scott asked rir. Erickson if they could use Fridley as a head- epd
to whatever you were receiving here to go to systems on the other
side of the river.
:Ir, Daniels stated he did not believe it was technically feasible.
:ir. Kaspszak asked Mr. Daniels what restrictions are there on
interconnection.
Pfr. 1:rickson stated he was not aware of any restrictions. The
regulations require it.
A?r. [deaver asked if it would be feasible to feed the Columbia Heights
franchise.
Mr. Lrickson stated it may be.
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:1r. Kaspszak asked what would happen on an interconnect between Eridley
and Minneapolis and with the other municipalities.-
Mr. I:rickson stated the state regulations on interconnection do not
speak to the difference between the one company being on both sides
of the municipalities.
e. Future Oneration. How does Storer envision the future of
cable communications in metropolitan Minnesota in general,
and in Fridley in particular? What is the future relation-
ship between Storer Cable TV of Delaware and Northern Cable-
vision, Inc.?
Mr. Kaspszak asked why do they need three subsidiaries.
':r. Erickson stated for business purposes.
f. Technical Questians. Some commissioners and members of the
public may have auestions regarding the technical operation
of a cable television system and they may wish to raise
these at this point.
Mr. Scott asked if they planned to continue the same service now.
Mr. Daniels stated they will nrobably combine the tcoo services,
Mr. Scott asked if they planned on addin� any new services during
' the next year.
Mr. Daniels stated they will have a lot of new services.
Mr. Erickson stated in his short exaerience in cable, the variety
of programming is exploding. lie read a list of programs that will
be added .
Mr. Kaspszak asked five years down the road with all these channels
being used un, is Storer going to come back to us and say you would
like one of those access channels.
ifr. Daniels stated he could not see that far down the road.
�fr. Chevalier askzd if they had any prot,.'.emswith�tjie ole agreements.
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Mr. Daniels stated they did not.
tfr. Kaspszak asked what the situation was in terms of transmission
lines in Innsbruck. �
ilr. Gerard stated there aren`t any.
;ir. Kaspszak asked what their plans were for Innsbruck.
Mr. Gerard stated eventually to build there. It is underground
and very exnensive.
Mr. Kaspszak asked if there were any rquests for hook-ups in that
area.
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Mr. Schneider stated he had received several inquiries.
Mr. I:aspszak asked how many homes would have to agree to a hook-up
before they would pass them.
Mr. Gerard stated when they started talking to Columbia Heights it
was their intention to build in Innsburck also.
Mr. I:aspszak asked if we had 200 hook-ups would they honor it.
htr. Gerard stated yes.
Mr. Daniels stated yes.
Mr. Schneider stated if some point in time the system went underground
what would their reaction be to this.
Mr. Daniels stated they would not have a choice. He stated they
would go joint trer.ch with the utility compani�s.
Mayor Nee stated he would like to point out that the company is
presently in violation of the franchise in this regard. It is
a relevant question to discuss.
Mr. :ioravetz stated the entire city was to be wired within S years from the date of
the franchise agreement.
iir. Kaspszak stated part of our recommendation is going to be that
the Council make a provision so that Innsbruck is taken care of at
some reasonable point in time.
iIr. Brennan stated he was wondering if Storer would be interested
in working with the Anoka County Workshop on an onerating agreement
such as the one in Bloomington.
".ir. Daniels stated it would depend on how the city so designates.
kfe stated they are open for discussion.
Mr. Belgum asked Mr. Erickson if he could formulate the theory behind
the trade-off between the company's monopoly� of an entertainment
sector and the community benefits that apparently are the trade-offs
for this exclusive franchise.
'�Ir. Erickson stated trade-off is a good word. We are dealing with
a monopoly although not an exclusive one. We are dealing with a voluntary
entertainment medium which Storer has to sell to the public. :10 one
has to hook-up to cable TV in the City of Fridley. It is a luxury.
The trade-off is that there are those in city government and in the
city who want to see a public access channel strung throughout the
entire city so that anybody can get on. Obviously the City of Fridley '
would never spend the money to do that nor would the citizens buy
only that. It is the programming and entertainment value that people
buy. 'ihat is why Bloomington has chosen to dedicate its 5% of basic
revenues to that purpose. It is a tax.
ifayor Nee stated he disagrees that it is an entertainment medium.
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Mayor Nee sl-ated iL i, in iact a communications mcdium. Ile stated
}le is Foing to propose a new pre-amUle te� the ordinance.
Pir. I[edin stated he would suggest taking a vote now on approval of
L'Ite merger.
Mr, llel�um usked Mr. Hedin if we vote now can we still add an amend-
ment to ttie ordinance.
Mr. Hedin stated yes. You can amend the ordinance throughout the
term of the franchise.
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;i0TI0N by Mr. Chevalier, seconded by Mr. Belgum, to recommend apgroval
of the franchise transfer contingent upon the approval of the proposed fi:anchise
ainendments. Upon a voice-vote, all'voting aye the mot'
, ion carried unanucously.
Afr• Hedin suggested sending the whole package of amendments
Council and then they can treat them separately.
Mr. ICaspszalc stated the amendments will now be discussed.
to the
Pfayor Nee stated he had some proposed amendments and would like to
� discuss them, lIe handed out a four-page packet of changes. Iie
stated some of the proUlems of orientation is in the first statement
of the thing which does not adequal-ely describe the purpose and
the authority to grant. See the first paragraph of 405.01.
L�Then }>ou get into the revenue part of it, he propose to leave the
definition of subscriber revenues in there for future use and then
add a paragraph which defines gross system revenues. It adds in
wholly-owned subsidiaries and holding companies because of the
possibility of hidin� income in various caays.
lhen payment to L-he city is a little different language but it
claims 5% on the annual gross system revenues. This e�as always
the intent of the ordinance and this makes it more concrete. It
also changes the interest penalty from S`/> and oegs it to prime:
In the same naragraph he put in t;ie possibility of the Council
waiving the 5% fee on the difference between gross s}�stem revenues
and the gross suUscriber revenues. The Council would still not
have the power to coaive tiie 5% on �ross subscriUer r.evenues but
would have the ontion of waiving tl�e fee on 5"/, on those monies over
and above subscriUer revenues with a sliowing by the company that it
is in thc public interest to do so.
The next paragraph does dedicate money to uses related to cable TV.
i�e audit nrovides basically access to subsidiaries and'holding
comnanies i.i the City Mana�er feels that that information is relevant
to the franchise.
The additional services �aas just.to clean it up a bit.
The one on studio f.acilities simply deals with the prohlem of
equipmenl'.
Ae stated he does not liave a nroblem �ai.th the copyriFl�t pass-thru.
Mr, Kasnszal: asked A1r. Iledin for his opittion on Che copyright p:iss-thru.
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Iir. Hedin stated the new law is a royalty for the cable system not
for the subscriber. It is not like a sales tax. It is based on the
number of subscribers and the number of their gross revenues. S�lhat
the comPany is proposing is that it be like a sales tax. The important
thing is that this copyright fee is no different than what the cable
operator must pay for real estate taxes, rent, etc. If you do go
along with the company he stated he has another amendment that does
a little bit better job than they do. If they want to pass this
along they should come in at the first of each year and ask for an
increase in their basic subscriber rates.
Mr. Hamernik stated he personally doesn`t view the 5% charge against
whatever income they have as a charge against the company. He views
it as a tax against the subscriber. Consequently, the oroposal made
here tonight regarding the schedule or option that the Council has to
charge the 5% rate or not charge it, the best way to go is this:
it can be evaluated on what benefit is given the community. He stated
he doesn't view it as a way for the city to raise revenue. Looking at
the 5% fee in that light puts a different perspective on it.
Mr. Hedin suggested having a meeting between the company and the
Commission on the amendments including the local origination one.
Mr. Erickson stated a meeting to define local origination wauld not
be productive, in his opinion. The next issue is a sensitive one
as is the 5% application to pay for premium services. Iie stated his
impression of the total amendment package as suggested tonight is
that it would be rejected by Storer Broadcasting. We should have a
meeting to see if there is common ground.
2Ir. K3spszak stated it is not the company's position to accept it
or reject it.
Mr. �rickson stated no it's not,
ordinance any way you wish but it
to not buy the Eridley franchise.
you can cextaintly amend the
certainly is the company's right
Nir. Kaspszak stated to Mr. Brickson are you telling us if these
amendments were passed then that would jeopardize the merger.
Mr. Erickson stated in his judgment that was correct.
TSr. Weaver asked Mr. Erickson which amendments were giving him
the greatest problem.
Mr. lirickson stated clearly the 5% application to nay programming.
Iie stated he wanted to make it clear that he wasn't on the record
for Jim Daniels or for the company on this. He stated the Fridley
franchise wasn`t the only franchise being acquired. ide are talkiug
about at least 15 franchises at this time. Anything that is
accepted by the comnany in neogitiations here is clearly going to
be a model on all subscribers. The company will have to make the
final decision.
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Mr. Iiedin stated he would like to talk to Mr. Erickson about the
history of this.
Mr. Erickson stated he will go throu�h the amendments at his
office and get back to the Commission.
Mayor iJee stated because of the hearing and notice process the
date Storer can expect approval or disapproval of the merger would
be March Sth.
i4r. Kaspszak stated he would suggest that Mr, isricY.son call the
Storer peonle, go over it with them and get back to Mr. '.ioravetz.
Mr. F:aspszak stated he sees nothinp, wrong with asking the company
to provide on a scaling basis at least one hour origination a
week for the first year, two hours for the next year, three for
the third, etc.
'-Ir. Hedin stated one of the nurposes of this meeting was to go back
and look at their experience. They have a proven track record in
_ local origination and they tell you they are interested in it, you
don't have to specify that in the law. IIe stated he was very sur-
prised when the question of local origination came up and whether
it should be tacked on as a separate franchise ordinance amendment
as a condition of this. He stated he did not expect it tonight.
He has some real difficulty �aith imposing that as a condition.
Mx'. Srickson stated if Doug Hedin is satisfied that tonight's meeting
is the public notice on the transfer and at any time after this
meeting the Council could pass a resolution approving the transfer�
he hoped that was correct. If within the next two,soeeks all the
players can sit down and we can agree on some amendments and then
the notice can be published. He stated he would like to separate
the transfer from the amendments.
iir• P.aspszak stated he was reluctant to do that. He stated we have
to go back to the motion that was made - the transfer is contingent
upon the amendments. He stated Mr. Erickson ought to go back to your
people with the jest of what happened this evening, gain their re-
action, come back, we will have another hearing on the amendments
and present it to the Council. Then your problem is with ther� not with
us.
ts. Hamernitc stated the Council should have the amendment proposals
before the January 22nd Council meeting.
Mr• 2:aspszak stated the Commission should have their next meeting
on January 16, 1979 at 7:30 P,M. This meeting wi1Z be held to
go over the amendments.
itOTION by Mr. Belgum, seconded by Pfr. Weaver, to close the hearing.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
The public hearing closed at 11:20 P.TI.
i:espectfully submitted,
i-;lCl�-C� ,�Q�
Gayle`Gohen
CATV COMf�II �SION �ti1EETING
danuary 16, 1979
. , CALL T� ORD�R
Chairperson Y.aspszak called the meeting to order at 7�3$ P.M.
MEMIIERS PRESENTi
MEMBERS ABSENT�
OTHERS PRESENT:
Edward Kaspszak, Larry Chevalier, Harold Belgum,
Carolynn IIlanding, and Burt Weaver
None
Mayor Nee
Clyde Moravetz
Blake Balzart
Greg Gerard, GTV
Parn Anderson, GTV
A4ary Geis, GTV
Sarah Hayes
David Dubouis
Jim Erickson, Legal
Counsel for Storer
Dou�las Hedin, Attorney
Jim Daniel�, Northern
Cablevision
Ed Carpenter, Attorney
Stephen Nierengarten,
Bloomington-TV
APPROV� CATV COMVtISSION PUBLIC HEr1�ING iv1INUTiS• JANUARY 9, 1479
Mr. Kaspszak asked if there were any changes or additions to the
minutes of the January 9, 1479 meeting?
fdr. Kaspszak noted, that he had a change. On page 2, first para-
graph, "he stated they bought the francliise or maved acquire it"
this was an english error and should read,"moved to acquise it".
Also, noted, page 9, fourth paragraoh, Iine 5, "it comes back
to the head-end and it is sS.minated". Mr. Daniels explained
the correct spelling should be dissiminated . Page 12, para�-
graph i, second line, should read, "transfer contingent upon
appr�val of proposed franchise amendments." Lastly, page 14,
paraF;raph 8, line 4, the word "jest", should be changed to
read "gist".
MOTIO;Y by n4r. Chevalier that the January 9, 1979 minutes,
as ariended, be approved. I�Ir. Belgum, seconded the motion.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
Mr. Kaspszak noted, that most of the commissiott members had
not been privi2e ged to several discussions, and one meeting
between Bill Nee, Doug Hedin, Blake Balzart, and himself.
He explained the purpose o£ these meetings, was to expedite
this evenings meeting by setting priorities as to what the
City Council might approve. He noted that p1r. Hedin, and
Mr. Nee, were present. DIr. Hedin +vas called upon by the chair-
person, to explain to everyone what had been discussed at the
Friday meeting, between Mr. Nee, Mr. Hedin, and himself.
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Pago ?. CATV Commi ,rion t�leeting J�nu�rv 16 1979 6 A
Mr Hedin stated, that he had an informal phone conversation, with
the State Cable Board. They said that there was no problem with
the la�t public meetin�, as far as satisfyin� state regulations
for a public meeting.
Mr Hedin, stated that what was most important, was to go thru
the memo on Mr. Nee's proposed amendment changes.
Mr. Kaspszak asked the commisssion what was their pleasure?
Would they like to go thru each amendment, or the ones with
changes? It was decided that the ar,iendments, should be looked
at specifically, and then go back and look at any changes that
have occurred.
Mr. Hedin stated that he was having some problems with some
of the proposed amendments. First was CREATION 40$.01, this
11e felt was no problem. Second GROSS REV�NUES, again no
problem. Also he stated that �^nr. IVee saw no problem with
GROSS REVEiVUSS 40j.011, but that the Company itself was having
problems with GROSS REVENUES. The Company does not want this to
include pay-cable receipts. Thirdly, PAYMENT TO THE CITY 405.05,
The 12�J had been taken out of the mayor's packet. There is
no qualifying phrase of the certification of any bank. Also,
he stated, that he had looked into the stat� es to see if there
was some other language, that might try to accomplish this and
that there was only one. That one was involving the discount
rate of the rederal Reserve Co:nmission. There was nothing quite
like this in the statutes.
Mr. Hedin questioned the "waiver". He went on to state that
at the Friday meeting, he was informed that �vhat was wanted
wasc 1. the waiver pertain only to the pay-cable�receipts.
2. that the waiver would be conditioned upon, the local orig-
ination performance of the company, These were not in his
recommendations, he stated. Because, he felt, this was in-
cluded, and covered in the 'PUBLIC INTEREST', criteria.
Mr. Hedin, then continued on with some examples for his
reasoning.
Mr. Kaspszak interjected, that this was a concession that the
Commission had struggled with and, he felt, that they were
sensitive to how the council felt about 'local origination'.
Mr. Weaver, then stated� that his long standing position on
'local origination', is that there should be a provision made
for local origination, upon a showing of a need, and that a
criteria would be, when there is a significant amount of
local origination, that the franchise should open up or provide
more access transmission. He stated his reluctance at taking
up a large percent of their band lengths, and then not using
them.
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Pa�e ,� CATV Commi^,sion Meeti.nF Jonuarv 16,_ 1979 G B
Mr. Hedin then continued, that hs felt it was presumptuous of
the commission to tell the council what it should vote on, in
respect to the 4/5 affirrnative vote,.}{e also �tated, that there
was no problem with the USii PEE, Continuing,•Mr. Hedin, pointed
out that one important provision, wa� that the F.C.C. has
never viewed cable TV as a revenue generating source, for a
municipality. The 5J is designed to cover and reduce the
regulatory expenses. Tf a greater percent can be justified,
than j� the percent could Ue increased. He suggessted, that
it was the purpose of this percent to just break even. He
then sugge�ted, that in the future, maybe, Mr. P.7oravetz,
could give a rough estimate on the cost of the time for
regulating cable TV.
D1r. liedin, next, wanted to cover 'AUDIT'. There was no problem
with this, and it would be replaced by the mayor's packet.
The 'GROSS OPERATING RECEIPTS', would be taken out, he stated,
because the F.C.C. is now using the term "Gross Revenue".
Mr. Hedin noted, that there is an obvious ommission of 'access',
for tvro reasons. First, because in the preceeding franchise
aznendment section there is already an ordina.�ce providing
access. He felt that what the com�ission should keep in mind,
is a?undamental concept. That a 1oca1 cable operator has
nothing to do with access. Federal law re�ulates access.
Udhat the cable company can do is make equipment available,
which D9r. Hedin noted was in the next section..
bTr. Hedin stated also, that the sentence from Bill Nee, that
the City Council can veto any proposed changes in the plan,
has been omitted. P�ir. Hedin stated that he felt this was
inadvisable. Mr. Hedin then continued by citing several �
examples for why he felt 30 days notice to the Council was
inadvisable.
Lastly, T.ir. Hedin spoke on STUDIO FACILITIES. Mr. Hedin said
that this talces Bill Nae's suggestion, which is the third
line dovm (see attachment), on equipment not being maint,�s:ned.
Mr. Hedin, then gave an example why he felt en£orcementi of
such a policy was impossible.
Mr. Kaspszal:, questi.oned to why have a provision for a per-
formance bond, if it didn't have any "teeth in it?"
D7r. Hedin stated that it was included in the original ordina�ce
when the studio building was being built. Also, he stated that
the original ordinance does "have teeth", in it, although it
i� difficult to enforce, and relies upon voluntary compliance.
Mr. }iedin then wanted to close by stating that Mayor Nee's
proposed amendments run contrar,y to Federal Law, as he explained
in his letter. (see attached letter from D1r. Hedin.)
Chairperson liaspszak, then asked for Mr. Daniels or Mr �ricicson
to respond to the amendments that were discussed January 9th,
and to the ones suggested by Bi11 Nee, and to the amendments
proposed Uy Doug Hedin.
Pa�e 4 CATV Commiu;ion Meetin� Janu�Y 16, 19?9 6 C
Mr. Jim Daniel:;, requested that they hear•form General Tele-
vision of Pdinne�ota Inc., first.
i�r. Greg Gerard, introduced Mr. �d Carpenter, attorney for
General Television.
Mr. Carpenter stated that his interest at the meeting was to
gain approval for the change of ovmership of General Tele-
vision, Inc. He continued, that preparations have been made
for a si:ockholders meeting to approve the merger, which is
set for February 15th. Application has been made to the F.C.C.
for transfer of the ovmership. Also he noted, notices and
applications for transfer have been made to all municipalities
concerned. He stated that he would like to see the transfer
approved. He also stated that he vrou].d like to see the transfer
and the amendments considered separately. He also noted that
Storer did meet the regulations that Mr. Hedin had �et out.
Mr. Carpenter continued that the franchisee, itself, remains
the same as well as the personnel.
Mr. Yleaver questioned that the personnel would not change?
Discussion between D9r. Vleaver and I�',r. Kaspszak then ensued
as to vrhether this question was previously asked.
Mr. Kaspszak stated, that the only question he had asked was
if 69r. Jim Daniels would remain. �,Ir. Daniels had stated that
yes he would stay to manage.
IDir. Kas�szak stated tha� the Commission has had great diff-
iculties over the years, and feels apprehensive. He then
elaborated on why the Commission has had these feelings.
Also stating that he felt the Commission is sensitive to
what the Council wants to do. In the final analysis,the
Council will malce the final decision, he stated. rie continued
that this meeting was ar� airing of the issues, hoping for a
proper response, that could be passed on to the Council, that
the Council could tlien approve. He stated also, that at least
two council members felt strongly that the approval of the
trarasfer be contingent upon appro�al of tne amendments, and
that the Commission was merely ref'lecting the Councils mood.
Chairperson Kaspszak then called upon Mr. Nee to give his
feelings on the moad of the Council.
b9r. Nee �tated that he personally felt that considering the
two separately was feasible in his o�m mind. But, that the
Council may see it differently. He also said that he suggested
to the Council a side letter of contingency. He also stated
that he felt the Council could see it this way, if the Comm-
ission suggested it.
Chairperson Kaspszak, then called upon Mr. Daniels for a
response.
Page 5 CATV Commis�ion Pneetin� JanuarY 16, 1979 6�
Mr. Daniels stated that Mayor Nee echoed what he has stated in
his letter, (see attachment) and that the company would like
to operate the cable system for some time sd that the members
might see what kind of quality of work we do. Mr. Daniels
stated that tlte letter was his official position.
Mr. Kaspszak inquired if there were any questions? As there
were none, he then su�gested to h9r. Belgum, that this would
be an appropriate time for him to enter his paper.
Mr. Belgum asked the Commission to listen to some of the
paragraphs from his paper under the title of 'Cable TV and
the Public Interest'.(see attachment of same title)
Mr. Chevalier. asked if he hadn't missed something. He wondered
where the 'try it for awhile' originated7
�r. Kaspszak, stated that it haQ come from the meeting between
Bill Nee, and Mr. Erickson.
Ms. Blanding asked for a feeling from the other Commission
' members.
Chairperson Kaspszak stated that he felt the Commission had .
one of tvro directions to go. He felt the Council would approve
a side letter, in which the company would make certain guarantees,
after the merger is approved. This vrould in effect nullify the
way the merger was approved at the January 9th meeting.
Mr. �rickson interjected that he felt he should clarify some-
thing that seemed to be troublesome to eVeryone. That
Mr. Jeff Ivlarcus is Vice President of IQorthern,Cable Vision Inc.,
in name only. He is not an employee of Storer Broadcasting.
Mr. Marcus ovms and operates his own business, which is a
broker financer. He is a broker or finaricer, in this case,
who has suggested �o Storer Broadcasting that they acquire
General Television. He has no operating authority, with respect
to General Television, or with respect to any of the s�absid-
iaries, or the parent companies. This statement, Mr. EricY.son
stated was to make it clear that any negative fee1�,,;-� the
Commission has toward D4r. f+larcus, should not be :m?v�t�d to
Storer Broadcastin�. Secondly, Ivir. Erickson went o., w say �
that he should go on record concerning somethin� that was
asked January 9th. He stated that they were negotiating a
number of franchises, and that they would like to get tl:e
transfer done crisp and clean, and the franchise amendments
later. P�Ir. �rickson stated that they came to these meetings
with the understand'znv that the transfer would be approved.
This understandin� was based on an understanding.with �layor
Nee. He continued that it was his £ault for assumin� tY�at
the blayor was the City Council. He continued that they liave
now spent more time on this then they assumed because of that
misunderstanding. He then �tated that was why he showed some
frustration at the Sanuary 9th, meeting. This, he stated was
why, when the Commi�sion made tne motion to make the transfer
contingent on the approval of. these amendments we were upset.
GE
We fe� ad an understanding. ��e now realize triat Mayor Nee, ,
i� just one member on the Council, and that the understanding
we had vrith him was not necessarily, the whole Councils feeling�.
He continued� that at this point vrith this lroved andeha��athe
ment), he would like to see the transSer contigent approval of • G
support on this transfer unbitted by any
they couldsthenesitedo m andJlookhatstheeamendmentser operating
Nr. Weaver inquired as to a letter the City may have received
from Storer.
may�notebesoneeddependingronwwhat thedcommissi�on1doesaattthis
meeting.
Mr. Weaver asked if 5�orer vras not asking �or a latency aggree-
ment? Was Storer not asking for a latency provision on our
atency before our�amendedoordinancesr ouldtgoeintoXeffect?
Mr. Erickson stated no� they were not.
Mr. Weaver then asked if they vaere not asking for a delay in
otherlfranchises?r�ou dcthet�eliberationsealso bemcompletedtiate
yn six months?
nqr. Erickson answered that they would not delay the ordinances
y� �h�y were still negotiating other. franchises in six mo�ths.
the Commissiontwouldanothbe askedltocoait a littlenlonger�nths,
Mr. Erickson stated that they would like six months operating
time in Fridley, and then deal with the ordinances. They
on thenotherkfranchisesSwere completed,ll all deliberations
pqr, Nee st�oeaseaaamendment atathis�timea�Henstat dtthataheee
to every p P
felt the City Council might meet on middle ground, and tha
the letter that comes in might be a facade of rationale.
that they would not oppose any of the amend-
Mr. Kaspszalt, asked DZr. Daniels, if he would give the caunci
a letter a.greeing.
ments?
roval
= some sort ofarecommendationstnovatLi.ther�recommendsapp�d ma e
of the mec;er separetly, or contingent uWC�eaPntirely separate.
i amendment�. He stated that he felt they .
� He also felt thbecaYuse the 203o�waslextraord nary. Would not
`1; $et precedent,
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Pap.,e 8 CATV Commi��ion Meetin� Jattuarv 16, 1979 � G
405.06 Audit
SECONDi�D by :�Is. Blanding, the motion to adopt the above pro-
posed arnendments. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION was made by Mr. Weaver to adopt the following amend-
ments, which read as follows:
�+05.01. Creati.on
�ke-6�#;y-o€-�r���e�-r���1s-��e-eo�s��xe��er�r-ogera��axi-ax�
�a�x�er�eu3ee-e�-a-ee�x��xi��y-ax�e�r�a-�e�eY�s�or�-s3�e#et�-ae�v��g-#lve
6���-e�'-F�id�ey-�s-eaus�sbe�a-w��h-�l;e-g����:�-�t��e�ea�T-�d
sgee��}eak��-w��k-tke-esya���at�r�eH#-ar�cl-t�ea��k�-x�a�x�exe�ee-e€
#e�ev�e�ea-se�u�ee-w��k}xi-�ke-G��3�-e�-F��d�e�T
The Fridley City Council does ordain that it is in the public
interest to permit the use of public right-of-ways and easements
for the construction, maintenance and operation of cahle communica-
tions systems under the terms of the follolving Franchise Ordinance;
said Public Purpose t�eing specifically the enhancement of communi-
oations within the City, and the expansion of.comcnunications
opportunities outside the City.
405.011, Subdivision 9
"Gross sx�se��be� revenues" a�e-�eve�tiee-�e���ed-€�s�-�e�x}a�
stt�se���e�-se�v�eesr-�s�-�r�e�r�d�r�g-ac�ve�:��s�r�gT-�ear�e-ekaxixie�-€eea,
e�-o��ie�-�ees-de��ved-��e�-�eu-s�tt�Qe��be�-serv�ees. shall meari any
i e CATV Commis^ion rnee
)5 ?�] Addition_.�yl Sr vz��v
t or before the i'ir:,t � of A�ri7.:
� oi' A ri c eacti :.uceceuiru; Yea
�ty_Counci 1 a nl.:�n i'or thF: comin
ain tihe foll��wynf'ormation� �
1.
2.
3.
4.
5�
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�n ' Januar
197�� �d pn or befo
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ear s operation whzch
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the fir
The com an snatl c?�i:>�LU�� `"""- jimits. At the requesti o� �5��
ax�, d�roduction facilii�� �vi"thin the c9.tv lan ior a es�e�
"itv_� ovn�i�� �he corn�a.ny snall submit to i���SS�ka _��a}�_}�e��de
sb�c��e-�o-t�e-eoxie��tze�e�l-w�t��xi-�i�e-e3��.
��e�ie-g�e�-�,�, this faci.li�tv v�ntech:�hcal. eauibm°ni: dhours ancintime it
studio size, type af' facility, reconstruction time.
will be operated and estimated construction or
The companY's plan shzl.l also include iniormation on how i___� 4'+?11
mazn�-in pro er ��tor'..cin� cc;ndi.�i.on its eauinrent to^oe usea for
local ori inatien cablecasii-na and bY �ccess cnannel��heecom anylshall
plan shall be subject to the approval of �he Ca.ty. P
execute a performance bond vayable to the city to insure se�p}e��e�-}xi
aese��axiQe-W��xi-�la}s-p�e� compliance with this section.
n�OTION was seconded by "•4s. Blznding. Upon a voice vote,
aye, the motion carried unanimously. ,
t,1r. Kaspszak, questioned that they had not put in, 'having a staff
person appointed', in there. .
Mr. Hedin answered by stating that he had felt that would be in*'^r-
ferring into inter-corporate activities. But, he hoped that 'thPlompany
would appoint a liason.
Mr. Kaspszak, and D1r. Hedin discussed the Performance Bond.
Mr. Kaspszak, suggested that he would like included with the
minutes of the meeting tlie following�
1, The letter from IYlark Scott
2� hlemorandummfromtDou�lasbHedin,�datedC�January�l6s D9?9els
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MEMO T0:
MEMO FROM:
MEt40 DATE:
SUBJECT;
Manager �
Nasim M. Qureshi, City ��
Richard N. Sobiech, Public Works Directo �
January 17, 1979
Bid Opening - Removal & Replacement °�feningslla1979s
Concrete Curb & Gutter and Driveway p
On January 15, 1979, sealed bids were received and opened publicly
o y of the
at the Fridley Civic Center at 11:00 a.m
bid tabulation as it was submitted.
Attached is a c p
Halvorson Construction Company was the low unit price bidder.
Nalvorson Construction Company p
erformed satisfactory work for the
City of Fridley in 1978. It �S recommended that the Council award
the contract for the referenced project to Halvorson Construction
Company.
RNS/Jm
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Memo to N. Qureshi -2-
4. City to fund an amount similar to
federal participation share
5.
Anoka County to fund 25% due to
Ice Arena traffic
Assess remaining to benefiting
properties (cost per lot $485)
City to fund an amount similar to
non-federal funding share (50�)
Anoka County to fund 25% due to
Ice Arena traffic
Assess remaining to 6enefiting
properties (cost per lot $193)
1/12/74
$ 9,600*
20,000
50,400
40,OQ0*
20,000
20,OOQ
*Funds to be acquired from Contingency Fund or Municipal State Aid Revolving
Fund.
In my opinion Item lI5 above would be most desirable. The City would fund
SO% non-federal participation share similar to what has been done at other
intersections where there was no federal. participation. Also, this seems
reasonable since there is a City park (Locke Park) which has access from
69th Avenue and is used by the general public. Together with the City
share, the benefiting properties, Anoka County and adjacent residents would
provide remaining funding.
RNS/jm
Attach: 2 maps
letter
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RESOLUTIOW N0.
A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE ANOKA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO SHARE IN THE It4PROVE-
MENT COSTS FOR SIGNALIZATION AT T.H. 47 (UNIVERSITY AUENUE) AND 69TH AVENUE
WHEREAS, the City of Fridley is very concerned with the dangerous
traffic situation which exists at the intersection of Trunk Highway No. 47
and 69th Avenue N.E.; and
WHEREAS, the crossover at 69th Avenue is the only outlet for a
large residential area on the west side of T.H. 47 (University Avenue);
and
WHEREAS, there is a considerable amount of traffic generated due to
activities in Locke Park and Columbia lce Arena on the east side of T.H. 47;
and
WHEREAS, this intersection is within the area associated with the
land acquisition a7ong Rice Creek for the proposed development of a regional
trail system; and
WHEREAS, the Minnesota Department of Transportation has indicated
in the correspondence attached and noted as Exhibit A, that the signaliza-
tion could be completed at this time, but only at the City of Fridley's own
expense; and
WHEREAS, the signalization would be beneficial to residents of the
City of Fridley and Anoka County.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT R�SOLUED, that the City Council of the City
of Fridley requests the Anoka County Commissioners to share in the improve-
ment costs for signalization at T.H. 47 and 69th Avenue �J.E. intersection.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the City Council of the
City of Fridley requests that the Anoka County Commissioners provide 25� of
the estimated improvement cost for signalization.
ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY THIS DAY OF
1974.
ATTEST:
City Clerk - Marvin C. Brunsell
Mayor - William J. Nee
(Certified c�pies sent to County)
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December 19, '1978
Nr. Richard N. So6iech
Puhlic Works Directar
City of Fridley
6431 University Avenue NE
Fridley, Minnesota 55432
In Reply Refer To: 315
C.S. �205 (T.H. 47)
At 69th Avenue NE
Traffic 5ignal
Dear Mr. 5o6iech:
This letter is in res{�onse to your letter
and Resolution No. 124-1978 �oncerning the
signal at the subject location.
n
Exhibit 9 E
(�12) 545•37G1
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dated December 13, 1978,
installa'tion of a 'traffic
We are currently working on signal projects for thc h1ay, 1'379 letting
and have a full signal design wark load thru 1979. :[P we were.to
design and Iet tha su6ject project, whi�h currently rariks 43rd on our
priority list, some ❑ther projeot wauld have io sli.de I�aok.
If the City of Fridley agrees to pay the entire project costs, we will
adjust our sohedule t❑ allow a 1979 letting date. However, instal»
lation would pro6ahly not 6e �ompleted until sometime in 19II�.
.. The Minnesota Department ❑f 'fransportation cannot agree to reim6urse
the City ❑f Fridley far "our" share ❑f the �ost of installation at
any time in the future hecause ❑f the unce=tainties ❑f future funding
and priorities. In addition, federal funds are not available for
reim6ursement projects. Thus, instead ❑f 2n }8p,0�0 project 6eing
split 76 percent Federal (current formula),12 percent State and '12
percent Gity funds, ii; would be 5D per�ent State and 50 per�eni: City.
We must rtiake the t�est use of availa6le funCs.
If the City of Fridley a9rees to fund the entire project at their
expense mithout future reimbursement from the State�, let me knnw;
however, me need at least six months lead time 6efore the project can
be let.
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Di�trict Dirc�tor �
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RESOLUTION N0.
A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE FINE SCHEDULE
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Fridley City Council adopt the following fine schedule
and recor�mend that the County of Anoka, Probate - County Court issue an order
promulgating the same:
PUBLIC NUISANCE
Any violation of Chapter 110.01
Code of the City of Fridley,
Minnesota (1973).
Any violation of Chapter 110.02
pertaining to construction work hours
ZONING
Any violation of Chapter 205
Code of the City of Fridley
Minnesota (1973).
WORKING WITHOUT A LICENSE
Performing work or services without
a license required by the Code of
the City of Frid7ey (1973) or the
Statutes of the State of Minnesota
BUILDING CODE
Any violation of Chapter 206,
Code of Fridley, Minnesota (1973).
WILD BIRDS AND ANIMALS
Any violation of Chapter 303 Code
of the City of Fridley, Minnesota (1973).
ANIMAL CONTROL
Any violation of Chapters 301 or 302,
Code of the City of Fridley, Minnesota
(1973).
First Offense
$50.00
$ 50. 00
Second Offense
Court Appearance
Court Appearance
$75.00 (and subsequent
offenses)
Court Appearance
$75.00 (and subsequent
offenses
Court Appearance
$75.00
$25.00
(and subsequent
offenses)
Court Appearance
$15.00 (within 12 months)
$30.00 or court
appearance if re-
quested by officer
10
RESOLUTION N0.
FENCES
Any violation of Chapter 213, Code
of the City of Fridley, Minnesota
(1973).
ABANDONED AND JUNK VEHICLES
Any violation of Chapters 114 or 123,
Code of the City of Fridley, Minnesota
(1973).
WATER AND SEWER ADMINISTRATION
Violation
Failure to make application for
and secure a permit
Failure to secure City
inspection and approval
Failure to install a water
meter; use of unmetered water
failure to maintain service
connections fr�m City main to
house in good repair
Tampering with water meter
Failure to have a stop and
drain valve on both sides of
water meter
Use of water from open fire main
in violation of Chapter 402.13 Code
of the City of Fridley, Minnesota
Tampering with, altering, using or
damaging any waterline, fire hydrant,
curb or valve box, street valve or sewer
line without permission
Allowing storage or surface water to
be discharged into sanitary sewer
Failure to properly barricade and place
warnin9 markers on open excavations
Digging without s'pecial permit on
permanent-type streets
First Offense
$15.00
$25.00
Chapter
402.02
402.022 or
402.2D
402. 023
402.04
402.05
402.11
402.13
402.18
402.19
402.20
402.20
PAGE 2
Second Offense
(and subsequent
offenses)
$30.00
Court Appearance
Fine
$75.00
$60. 00
�75.00
$30.00
$60.00
$45.00
$75.00
$75.00
$60.00
$30.00
$150.00
10 A
RESOLUTION N0.
Violation
Failure to comply with
sprinkling ban
Failure to maintain a complete
physical separation between the municipal
water supply and a private water supply
FIRE
Violation
1. a. Garbage
b. Open burning without permit
2. Extinguishers not serviced
3. Alarm system faulty
4. Fire drills inadquate
5. Folowing fire apparatus
6. Crossing fire hose
7. Fireworks
a. 5ale
b. Discharge
c. Manufacture
8. Hazardous Conditions
a. Stairway doors blocked open
b. Improper exit lighting
c. Obstructing exit way
d. Accumulation of combustibles
e. Use of temporary wiring
f. Exit Signs
9. Flammable Liquids
a. Drainage into sewers
b. Improper use of
c. Improper container
d. Improper electrical
connections
e. Improper use of flame
f. Smoking where prohibited
g. Smoking - removal of signs
Cha ter
402.21
EI�Y�!
Chapter
109
109
108.03
ioa
1 �:
Minn. Stat. 169.40 (1976)
Minn. Stat. 169.41 (1976)
�1.
.
.
108
108
l0II
108
108
108
108 and
Minn. Stat. 73.171 (1976)
Minn. Stat. 73.171 (1976)
Minn. Stat. 73.171 (1976)
Minn. Stat. 73.171 (1976)
Minn. Stat. 73.171 (1976)
108
108
10 p
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Fine
$30.00
$60.00
Fine
$15.00
$50.00
$25.00
$25.00
$15.00
$25.00
$25.00
Court Appearance
$15.00
Court Ap��earance
$25.00
$25.00
$25.00
$15.00
$15.00
$25.00
$50.00
$15.00
$15.00
$25.00
$25.00
$25.00
$50.00
RESOLUTION N0.
Violation
10. Places of Assembly
a. Flammable decorative material
b. Exit doors locked
c. Aisles
d. Obstruction of exit ways
Chapter
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VEHICLE PARKING First Offense
Any violation of Chapter 506, Code of $15.00
the City of Fridley, Minnesota (1973)
ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY THIS
, 1978
MAYOR - WILLIAM J. NEE
ATTEST:
CITY CLERK - MARVIN C. BRUNSELL
PAGE 4
Fine
$25.00
$50.00
$25.00
$25.00
Second Offense
Within 12 months
$30.00
DAY OF
10 C
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_ _ _ __ �50�.2CES Coin�zrS�Sz�oN. H�vD cOminzs�Dr(��S _
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LNW OffiCES �
WEAVER, TALLE & HERRICK
GHARLGS R. WEAVEft
HERM/.N L.TAILE
VIROIL C. HERRICN
ROBERT MUHN4
WILLII�M R,GOODRIGH
DOUGLAS E.IILINT
TIMOTHY E.Lp9HIN
City of Fridley
December Retainer
Council Meetings
Staff Meetings
Conference with Staff
Memos and Legal Research
Preparation of Proposed Fine
Schedule-County Court
Citizens Inquiries
Januaxy 5, 1979
Hours in excess of 30 @$40.00 per hour
12-3/4 hours
2-1/2 hours
6 hours
4 hours
10 hours
2 hocrs
37-1/4 hours
COURT PfATTERS:
Plvwood & Wickes vs. Citv of Fridley
(Conference with Staff and Meeting with
representatives of plaintiffs, County
of Anoka and City):
McNamara vs. Shorewood and City
(Pre-Trial Conference-Minnesota Supreme Court):
Wellan vs. Brunsell
(District Court Appearance on 12-13-78 and 12-20-78;
Conference with City C1erk re testimony; Conferences
with candidates attorneys):
Citv of Fridley vs. Stavanau
(Preparation of Writ of Unlawful Detainer;
Appearance in County Court; Correspondence and
conversations with defendant and City Clerk):
Hedlund vs. City of Fridley
(Deposition of Plaintiff):
EXPENSES ADVANCED:
Mileage re McNamara
Stillwater Court 75 miles (TEC)
Stillwater Court 30 miles (VCH)
St.Paul Commissioner of Insurance 56 miles TEC)
Total Mileage: 161 miles C� $.15 per mile:
55 Xerox copies @$.15 per copy:
10 Lease forms @ $.25 euch:
BALANCE DUE:
310 EAST MAIN STREET
ANOHA�MINNESOTA 55303
921-5<13
62"!9 UNIVEPSITV AVENUE N.E,
FRIOLEY� MINNESOTA 55432
691-JB50
Inwice No. 6670
$1,300.00
300.00
150.00
150.00
550.00
200.00
125.00
2b.y5
8.25
2.SQ
$2,809.90
12 A
MEMO T0: Nasim M. Qureshi, City Manager �
��,
MEMO FROM: Richard N. Sobiech, Public Works Directo
MEt40 DATE: January 17, 1979
SUBJECT: Bid Opening - Removal & Replacement of Miscellaneous
Concrete Curb & Gutter and Driveway Openings - 1979
On January 15, 1979, sealed bids were received and opened publicly
at the Fridley Civic Center at 11:00 a.m. Attached is a copy of the
bid tabulation as it was submitted.
Halvorson Construction Company was the low unit price bidder.
Halvorson Construction Company performed satisfactory work for the
City of Fridley in 1978. It is recommended that the Council award
the contract for the referenced project to Halvorson Construction
Company.
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