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THE MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF THE FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL OF MAY
14, 1979
The Public Hearing Meeting of the Fridley C�ty Council was called to order, after
the Board of Review Meeting, at 9:30 p m.
ROLL CALL.
� MEMBERS PRESENT
MEMBERS ABSENT:
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
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Mayor Nee, Councilman Fitzpatrick, Councilwoman Moses,
Councilman Schneider and Councilman Barnette
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The agenda was adopted as subm�tted.
PUBLIC NEARINGS
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DNG DBA ORIENTP
MOTION 6y Councilman Schneider to waive reading of the public hearing notice and
open the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote,
all vot�ng aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously and the pu6lic
hearing opened at 9•30 p.m.
Mr. Brunsell, City Clerk, stated the report from the Police Department tndicates
there �s no ev�dence of any police problems and the Police �epartment could see
no reason for denial of this license.
No persons in the audience spoke for or against the issuance of this license.
MOTION by Councilman Moses to close the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman
Fitzpatrick. Upon a votce vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously and the public hear�ng closed at 9 32 p.m
PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ISSUANCE DF ON-SALE NON-INTOXICATING MALT LIQUOR LICENSE TO
PATRICK G. KOLB DEBA. PAKOLLY'S PIZZA AT 7893 EAST RIVER ROAD:
MDTION by Councilman Fitzpatr�ck to waive the reading of the pu�lic hearing notice
and open the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a vo�ce vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously, and the publ�c
hearing openc�d at 9:32 p.m.
Mr. Brunsell, City Clerk, stated the Police Department made an investigation of
the premises and finds no reason for den�al of the license
Gouncilman Fitzpatrick stated, in all the years they were talking about this property
_rnd development of it, he never heard any reference for a pizza parlor with a
beer license He stated he had no objection to the appllcant regarding the beer
license, but it does disturb him to have that business at th�s particular location
�Jo person in the audience spoke for or against the issuance of this license.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to close the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman
Schne�der Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously and the public hearing closed at 9 34 p m.
FINAL PLAT. P.5
6661, 71, 81 MAIN STREET N.E.
Y PARK ADDITION BY ALVIN A. NITSCHKE
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to waive the reading of the public hearing notice
and open the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman Barnette Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee dec7ared the motion carried unanimously.
Mr,Sob�ech, Public Works Director, stated this hearing �s to revtew the final
plat for property at 6661, 6671, and 6681 Ma�n Street Fle stated the Planning
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Commission held a public hearing and has recommended approval of the plat.
Mr. Sobiech stated, originally, the property developed into a multiple rental
situation and Mr, Nitschke intends to plat the property into lots which would
then be owner-occupied.
(=ir. Sob�ech stated, since this was an existing situation, and there was nothing
in the code regulating existing structures, the staff likened this to a townhouse
development and proceeded on that basis. He stated, in this case, the plan has
been constructed and now exists and the City would have to concern themselves with
the platting of the property
Nir. Sobtech stated the original recommendation 2f the Planntng Commission
Vias for approval based on the platting of the property He stated what
�s shown on the map is «ctuall, three lots in one block. Cach lot would
consist of a portion of the structure, a garage and then the ad�acent
properties.
Flr Sobtech stated at the Plamm �g Commission meeting on April 18, 1979,
there was discussion on the townhouse proposal. In light of that discussion,
the Planning Commtssion recommended that the property under the ex�sting
dwellinqs become pr�vate ownership and the rest of the land become ground
held in common.
Mr. Sobeich stated the staff and C�ty Attorney feel this could be handled
either way because once it is platted, the legal description would be for
structures and certain properties. hle stated, etther way, there would
have to be by-laws, filed as covenants, that would take into account
certain items whether it be from ma�ntaining the structures, down to the
utilit�es. He stated an association would he formed consisting of owners
of the property, but i m tially it would probably be set up by the present
owner at this time, Mr. Nitschke.
Counc�lrnan Fitzpatrick questioned once the by-7aws were set up, what
about control as far as the City was concerned.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney stated, generally speaking, 6y-laws can be
altered by a certain percentage of the property owners. He stated where
you are dealing with only three property owners, you would probably want
to make it unam mous for any changes. He felt, in this particular situation,
the Counctl should make the approval contingent upon approval of the
in�tial by-laws,
Mr. Herrick felt this may beanarea that the City could be dealing with
that may happen frequently, where owners of rental properties decida to
"condominiumtze". He felt the City may be faced with similar requests in the
future from people who own larger untts and stated be discussed this with
staff to some extent, and they felt they had adequate ordinances to cover
the sttuation. '
Councilman Schneider asked tf this was the same process they would be
considering for condominiums.
Mr Herrick stated, at this stage, the City doesn't have any experience
wtth such requests, and unless some new legislation is adoptedhe would
think it would be the same process as for condominiums.
P1r. Sobiech stated this ent�re area of rev�sing existing rental property
is being reviewed by the Planning Comnnssion. Mr. Sobiech felt, in his
own mind, that if there was an apartment situatton with stories of dwelling
units, he d�dn't believe it would satisfy the requirements of the townhouse
or condominium development, as compared with units in a townhouse design where
iots and 6locks can 6e simply described, and common property can be seen.
He felt, w�th apartments you have a diffi cult time identifyin9 what is
common property.
Mr. Herrick stated he would concur with P�r. Sobtech's comments and that
with an apartment, you have a d�fferent style building.
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Counc�lman Fttzpatr�ck stated his concern is that whatever interest the
City has in this, it seems would be addressed in the by-laws which would be
far from stable because they could be changed.
, Mayor Nee stated he felt a little uneasy with it and perhaps a preceder.t
would be set and was not sure it has been thought through enough. He
felt part of the premise of setting up a townhouse development area was
to have a fairly large development area to insure pro`essional maintenance.
, Mr. Sobiech stated one reason staff felt confortable going this way is that
there was some crtteria in the code for guidance He stated the only
item in question was the area, and he felt thts requirement was originally
set up to allow perhaps for recreational uses.
Mr. Quresht, City Manager, questioned if there were other situations
tn the City where a similar approach could be taken Mr. Sobiech tndicated
there were several and pornted out some of them.
Mr. Sobiech stated another way to approach this would be to rezone to
single family and then have "0" lot lines.
Mr. Sobiech felt with the present R-3 zoning, townhouses are allowed and
the only criteria you have to satisfy is the square footage per unit,
which is the case here.
Mr. Quresh� stated there are certa�n restrictions the Council can impose
which they feel are necessary to maintatn the integrity of the development.
Mr. Herrick stated they could possibly obtain additional information through
the League or the C�ty of Minneapolis, as they have had a lot of converstons.
He stated one point he would like to make is that covenants, as such, are
not enforceable by the City, but the property owner can enforce them.
Mr. Qureshi stated, ds far as the townhouse development, the Council could
' impose restrtcttons that could be part of the approval.
Mr. Herrick stated this could 6e done, however, the question is if i'c
would be binding on the property owners.
Mr. Sobtech stated in the Innsbruck North development, the City had an
agreement that was bind�ng on the original developer and the C�ty would
have the right to enforce the developmental agreement
Counc�lman Schnetder felt, however, with the Innsbruck North development,
each of these units were paying someth�ng into a central fund to maintain
the land and exter�or.
Mr. Nitschke stated he fa�ls to understand why one situation would work
and one wouldn't, ,7ust qecause this �s a smaller number of units. He stated,
as far as maintenance of the property, he felt ihe City would have as
much control through the City codes and ordinances as they do w�th single
family residences. He felt, however, if you had an absentee landlord
possibly the property wouldr�'t be maintained as well and thinks, in the
ma�ority of the situations, that certainly would be the case.
Mr. Nitschke stated he didn't feel uncomfortable with any of the by-laws
he has seen, Is was his understanding that the covenents are binding to
all the owners. Mr Nitschke stated the um ts are all fi m shed separately
now and felt they would remain the same. He stated he didn't see any
� problems with anything that has been d�scussed.
Counctlman Fitzpatrick stated one of the points that has come up is
comparison to the single family residences and felt it was a matter ofi
impact. He stated it is true if you buy a home in the middle of a block,
you are impacted by your neighbors, but certainly not anything of this
degree. He felt they should keep �n mind that they also have to think
in terms of other requests of simtlar nature and aren't talking particularly
about Mr. Nitschke and his situation.
Mayor Nee stated he would feel more comfortable if they had some guidelines.
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Mr. Sobiech felt, with the Planning Commission's review, they may be coming
up with some recommendat�ons.
Councilwoman Moses stated she would compare the two where this would be
separate owners, each taking care of their property, as compared to a
townhouse development, where the upkeep is taken care of.
Councilman Schneider stated he was more concerned about a precedent being
set, rather than �ust this particular piece of property.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, suggested obtaim ng additional information and to ,
develop some type of guidelines.
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to close the public hearing. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried una m mously and the publtc hearing closed at 10:12 p.m.
Mayor Nee stated that staff will brinq this item back when they have addttional
information and will advise Mr.fJttschke when it comes back to the Council.
PUBLIC HEARING ON STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ST. 1978-
P10TION by Councilman F�tzpatrick to waive reading of the public heartng notice
and open the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice
vote , all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the meeting carried unanimously and
the public hear�ng opened at 10 13 p.m.
Mr. 5obiech, Public Works Director, stated th�s is a hearing on the final
assessment cost for the 1978 street improvement pro,7ects.
Mr. Herrmann, City Assessor, explained how the assessment is figured for
corner lots.
Mr. Sobiech stated, in the Hyde Park area, improvements were made on 2nd ,
Street, 2-%z Street, 3rd Street, 57th Place, 58th Avenue, 59th Avenue, 60th
Avenue, several alleys in Blocks 9 and 22 of the Hyde Park Addition and
Main Street from 58th to 61st and 57th Avenue fr�m Main Street to 3rd Street.
Mr. Sobiech stated the front foot assessment for the street and concrete curb
and gutter was $17.04 a front foot and the side yard assessment was $5.37 per
foot. The front foot rate for the alleys was $3.57. �line sewer services
were put in the Hyde Park Addition at a cost of $?76.47 per service.
�lain Street from 58th to 61st was put in under ST. 1978-2 with commercial
property pay�ng the full cost per foot for bituminous street surfacing and
concrete curb and gutter and resident�al and park property heing assessed at
normal residential rates, w�th the balance being paid from State Aid Funds
ihe frant foot assessment for tndustr�al and commercial property is $22.47
and for residential property, $17.04.
Mr. Sobiech stated 57th Avenue from Main to 3rd Streets w�s assessed for
curbing only on the Narth s�de of the street under tmprovernent pro�ect
ST. 1978-4 The front foot assessment rate for commercTal property is
$9.59 a front foot and for residenttal property with double frontage,
$2.40 a front foot. In the Alice Wall Addition on 63rd Avenue and 7th Street,
�vater ana sewer services were put in under pro,7ect ST. 1978-1 at a cost of
b257.94 for the water and �242.00 for the sevaer per service.
Mr. Sabiech stated with the improvement on 53rd Avenue, East of Central '
6etween Menard's and Skywood Mall, the front foot assessment was $27.71.
He stated this improvement was needed to improve the trafftc flow and signali-
zation. On the University Avenue West Service Road, which generally abuts the
House of Lords property, the frorrtfoot assessment ratc was $45.74.
Mr. Sobiech stated water and sewer lines and water services were put tn
East Ranch Estates Third Addition on Main Street, as petitioned by the
property owners, at a cost of $4,019.98 for the water line of Lot 4 and
a cost of $�,511.28 per lot for the sewer line. Cost of the two water
services was $323.22 per service.
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Mr. Sobiech stated on 79th Way this ts a State Aid Street designed to State
aid standards. The front foot assessment for commercial propert�es was
$24.23 and $17.04 for res�dential properties. Only curbing was installed on
a portion of 79th bday which involved commercial property and the front foot
rate was $9.57.
Mr. Sobiech stated, under pro,7ect ST. 1978-2, sidewall; only was installed on
the East side of 7th Street from 61st to 63rd Avenue He stated this improve-
� ment was pet�tioned for by School District �'14 and the City agreed to share
in the costs. The front foot assessment �s �5J0.
Under pro,7ect 1978-4, Central Avenue from 76th to Osborne Road had curb and
gutter installed on the East side only at a front foot rate of $7.19 and a
side yard rate of $ 81per foot. Main Street from 57th Avenue to I-694 had
curbing installed only and the front foot rate was $7.5E.
No persons in the audience spoke regarding these assessments.
MOTION by Counc�lman Barnette to close the public hearing. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously and the publ�c hearing closed at 10-22 p.m
PUBLIC HEARING ON IMPRO�EMENT: STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ST. 1979-1
MO'fION by Councilwoman Moses to waive read�ng of the publtc heartng notice
and open the hearing. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice
vote, all vot�ng aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unantmously and
the public hearing closed at 10:24 p.m.
Mr Sobiech stated the City received a petit�on from property owners requesting
improvement of this alley. Preliminary Assessment Estimates tndicate an
, improvement cost of �3 J5 a foot. He stated the only problem staff fias with
this is that it is proposed that only a portion of the alley be improved or
that part whtch is actually betng used. He stated residences to the North
do have access off of ad,7acent streets.
Mr. Sob�ech stated, in the past, �t has been the policy to improve all of the
alley and would f�nd it diffi cult to maintain alleys if they don't have
ingress and egress in 6oth directions to accommodate the equipment the City
has to ma�nta�n them.
Mr. Sobiech stated, in this particular case, the equipment could only
proceed in one direction and there would be no place to store snow. He
stated this was mentioned to the petitioner and it seems there has been
arrangments made, in the past, for plowing and in this part�cular case,
the plowing could continue on that basts, however, the City would maintain
it as far as any repairs.
Mr. Robert Hartman stated he was the owner of three apartments between 59th
and 60th and has talked to the ad,7acent property owners and everyone, with
the exception of one person, is interested in having th�s alley blacktopped.
Mr. Hartman stated they now have someone �ome in to do the plowing, and hoped
some of the property owners would work wtth him on that, but that he would
be receptive to continuing to have the alley plowed
� A gentleman from the audience stated he owns a huilding �n this area and the
driveway �s blacktopped now and quest�oned how the tmprovement would affect
this.
Mr. Qureshi, C�ty Manager, stated the City would work with him on the design.
No other persons in the audience spoke for or aga�nst this �mprovement.
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MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatr�ck to close the public heartng. Seconded by
Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried una m mously and the publtc hear�ng closed at 10 35 p.m.
NEW BUSINESS
RATION OF A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASS
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Mr. Sobiech, Public Works �irector, stated he received a call from a
property owner who owned a 40 fo�t lot and when they made this improvement,
water and sewer services were put in to make sure they wouldn't have to
tear up the street in the future. He stated some services were put on the
40 foot lots that could be combined with other lots in order to make it
a builda6le site.
Mr. Sobiech stated, he wondered, by doing so and assessing th�s to the
property if it may 6e a problem with the pending case regarding 40 feot lots.
Mr. Quresh�, City Manager, felt the assessment could be collected at the time
the lots were built on, and have the record show they weren't assessed at
this t�me, but would be �f a structure was built.
RESOLUTIDN NO 70-1979 CON
PRO�ECTS ST. 1978-1, ST 1
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 70-1979,
deleting the charges referred to by the Public 41or,ks D�rector for extensions
�nto the 40 fnnt lots. Seconded by Councilman Schnetder. Upon a vo�ce vote,
all vot�ng aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
MOTIDN by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 71-1979. Seconded
by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
POLICY STATEMENT CONCERNING THE MAINTENANCE OF LESS THAN FULL BLOCK ALLEYS
i�OTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick that the Council adopt a policy statement
to the effect that theCb�� cannot be responsible for snow removal on the
partial alley under ST. 1979-1, Addendum �3. Seconded by Councilman Schneider.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously.
CLAIMS:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to authorize payments of Claims No. 130A03
throught 132P03. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all
votinn aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried una m mously.
RE�UEST BY ISLANDS OF PEACE FOR SUPPORT OF ANOKA COUNTY REGIONAL PLAN
Councilman Barnette stated he has been approached by Mr. Ed Wilmes of the
Islands of Peace regarding support of the Anoka Coun�y Regional Plan.
It was generally felt by the Council that perhaps they should have more �nput
and addit�onal lnformaLion from the County before taking any actton.
AD�OURNMENT
MOTION 6y Councilman Schneider to ad�ourn the meeting. Seconded by
Councilrnan Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously and the Public Hear�ng Meeting of the Fridley
City Counc�l of May 14, 1979 ad�ourned at 10:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Carole Haddad
Secy to the City Counc�l
Approved 6/4/79
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William J.
Mayor
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