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THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL OF
NOVEMBER 17, 1980
The Regular Meettng of the Fridley City Council was called to order at
7:35 p. m. by Mayor Nee.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mayor PJee led the Council and audience in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT
MEMBERS ABSENT
Mayor Nee, Councilman F�tzpatrick, Councilwoman P9oses,
Councilman Schneider and Councilman Barnette
None
Mayor Nee welcomed the Fridley Girl Scouts who were present in the audience
to observe the Council meettng.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, NOVEMBER 10, 1980
MDTION by Councilwoman Moses to approve the minutes as presented. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unan�mously.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Councilman Schneider requested the following items be added to the agenda•
Discussion of the Day Care License Application by Roger 3 Betty Papke, and
Cons7deration of Mid-Block Street Light Standard - E. Danube Road.
MOTIOfV by Councilman Barnette to adopt the agenda with the auove addit�ons.
Seconded by Councilwoman Moses Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanunously.
OPEN FORUN, VISITORS:
There was no response from the audience under this item of business.
NEW BUSINESS:
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V #8D-09, PETITION
VD APdD 2-1/2 STREET. HYDE PARK
MOTIOfJ by Councilman Fitzpatrick to waive the reading and approve the ordm ance
upon first reading. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unaniinously
FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE ON VACATION REQUEST, SAV #80-10, TO VACATE ONE
FOOT OF A 12 FOOT DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT, 7105 ASHTON AVENUE, RICHAR�
WALTZ
MOTI0�4 by Councilman Fitzpatrick to waive the reading and approve the ordinance
upon fi rst readtng. Seconded by Councilwoman Ploses. Upon a voice vote, all
votin9 aye, Mayor PJee declared the motion carried unantmously.
MOTION by Counc�lman Schneider to waive the reading and approve the ordinance
upon fi rst reading. Seconded by Counc�lman Barnette. Upon a vo�ce vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
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REGULAR MEETIfdG OF fdOVEMBER 17, 198D
FIRST REN�ING
MINNEAPOLIS WATER WORKS:
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12, PETITION
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to waive the reading and approve the
ordinance upon first reading. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unantmously.
fdG OF AN ORDIPJANCE ON
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MDTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to waive the reading and approve the
ordinance upon first reading. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a
votce vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motton carried
unanimously
CONSI�ERATION OF FINAL PLAT. PS
Mr. Herr�ck, Ctty Attorney, stated he has met with several representatives
of the various railroads and had a lengthy discussion, and requested this
item be tabled until the first ineeting in December.
P1r. Herrick stated he felt they may have reached a solution, but the company
may want some assurances from the City, if the park fee is paid, there wouldn't
be another assessment at the time the property is developed. He stated other
matters were discussed that seemed reasonable, however, the representatives
wanted an opportunity to go back and talk to their clients.
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to table this item to the first meeting in
December. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, h1ayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF OCTOBER 29, 1980:
CONSIDERATIDN OF REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP �80-11, TO ALLOW
OUT-PATIENT COUNSELING CLINIC WITH SMALL ADJACENT PARKING LOT, 7599
UfJIVERSITY AVENUE. DR. JAMES H. GIL6ERTSON:
Mr. Flora, Public Works D�rector, stated this request for a special use permit
is made 6y Dr. Gilbertson to use the property at 7599 University Avenue as a
psychiatric clim c for out-patient counseling. He explained this would be a
use allowed in an R-1 zone, with a special use permit, and the Planning
Commission has recommended approval of the request.
Mr. Flora stated Dr. G�lbertson is a ltcensed psychologist, a resident of
Fridley, and his business would be on a low profile. He stated Dr. Gilbertson
plans no changes in the structure and there would be no traffic congestion in
the area from this business.
Mr. Flora further explained staff would be working wtth Dr. Gilbertson on
screen�ng and parking, and a small sign probably would be put up on University
and Osborne to �dentify the business.
Mr. Flora stated �r. Gilbertson has visited all the property owners, covered
in the public hearing announcement, and explained his operation and has
recetved no adverse comments.
No persons in the audience spoke regarding Dr. G�16ertson's request for a
special use permit.
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Mr. Qureshi, Ctty Manager, pointed out that cl�m cs are allowed in an R-1
zone, with a special use permit, but felt, if this was approved, there should
be some specific restrictions imposed as he has seen where a stivation like
thts could snowball, as in other communities, where you have many residences
being converted to commerctal uses.
Counctlman Barnette asked if he�had any partners in his clim c. Dr. Gilbertson
stated he had no partners, but may incorporate for tax purposes.
� Councilman Barnette asked Dr. Gilbertson if he had any o6�ection if it was
stated this clinic would be solely operated by him. Dr. Gilbertson stated,
as he told the Planning Commission, he would abide by any conditions. He
pointed out there would be no structural changes to the dwelling and has
talked with the staff regarding six parking spaces, which Mr. Boardman felt
was adequate. He felt he could abide by stipulations to operate in a low
profile manner.
Mayor Nee asked tf anyone would 6e l�ving �n the dwelling. Dr. Gil6ertson
stated he is only in the office about 20 hours per week, and depending on
the need for some kind of security, he thought perhaps a student could live
in the basement, but hasn't act�vley contemplated anyone living there.
Mr. Quresh� asked what provisions were being made to screen the property on
the South side. Dr. Gilbertson stated there is shrubbery and a fence on
the South side of the property, however, he planned to replace the existing
fence .
Mr. Quresh� felt, if the Council w�shed to approve this request, the spec�al
use permtt should be allowed for a two year period and for a specific purpose
Further, there should be s�x off-street parking spaces provided, with screening,
and there should be no on-street parkirug_�nd the City would post "No Parking
Signs" �f there was a problem that warranted it.
� MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to grant spec�al use permit, SP ,�80-11, with
the following stipulations: (1) That thts structure be restr�cted for use
as an out-patient psychiatric counseling cltnic, (2) That no changes be made
to the existing structure; (3) That the applicant work with the Planning
Department on the landscaptng and fencing of the parktng lot; (4) That s�x
off-street parking stalls be provided, wtth no on-street parking, and (5)
That thts special use perm�t is granted for a two year period and is to be
re-evaluated at the end of that time. Seconded by Cuuncilman Barnette. 'Jp�n
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to receive the minutes of the Planning Commission
Meeting of October 29, 1980. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice
vote, all vottng aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF 1981 HOLIDAY AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULES.
Councilman [�chneider asked why the Council was not meeting on November 2
and why they are meeting on �ecember 21.
Mr. Quresht, City Manager, pointed out there are five Mondays in Novem6er
and since Novem6er 2 is close to election, a meeting wouldn't be scheduled
for that date. He stated, as far as December 21 is concerned, this could be
changed if the Council d�d not wish to meet on this date.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt the Council meeting schedule, with
' the amendment to delete the Council meeting on December 21, 1981. Seconded
by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all vottng aye, Mayor Nee
_ declared the motion carried unanimously.
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MOTION by Counc�lman Schnetder to adopt the Holiday Schedule as submitted
with opt�onal holidays as proposed. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to delete the December, 1980 Conference Meetin�.
Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Nee declared the motion carrned unam mously.
OF CONTINUING THE PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE
Mr. Inman explained the City, when they bid their property and casualty insurance
tn 1979, had an option to renew the contract for a one, two, or three year
period. He explained the Ctty has received a quote from Transcontinental
Brokers for coverage for 1981 which is $7,936 less than the exact same coverage
in 1980. He stated his recommendatton would be to continue the City's 1981
insurance with Transcontinental Brokers as the cost is lower and there �s an
advantage of stay�ng with the same 6roker to el�minate problems of overlaping
claims. Also, staying with one agent eliminates the administrattve cost of
familiar�zing a new agent with the City's internal �nsurance policies and practices.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, felt because there was a decrease in the cost, �t was
prudent for the City to exercise their option, as noted in the bid, to conttnue
the property and casualty insurance program for 19�1 w�th Transcontinental
6rokers
Mr. Richard Aune, of the Rice Creek Agency, stated, if the City were to continue
the bid, next year he wouldn't be allowed to bid as Home Insurance takes the
position that once they have an agent writing with them they w�ll no longer
bid with any other agent. hle felt what the City would be do�ng �n the future
is elininat�ng all compe�it�on.
Mayor fdee stated it seems to him if they didn't exercise their option, they would
be penalizing Transcontinental Brokers for initiating a savings of over $7,000.
Counctlwoman Moses felt the Council was here to represent the Community and
should get the best services for the least amount of money.
Mr. Aune stated he �s looktng at the future and the City will not have any
competitive bids and won't know if they are getting a good price.
Mr. Qureshi pointed out not many companies are writing insurance for municipal-
ities so there are other programs and options cities are looking into for
coverage.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated he would have a quest�on if Home Insurance
�s the only company that �s going to 6id in the future. He explained if two
or more agents approach Home for the rtght to bid and the same quote is given
to all agents, the Council would have the same situation, as �n the past,
where two or m�re a�e�ts both b�d th� same company and the same figure. He
stated the Council Ts not choos�ng insurance c�mpanies and price, 6ut choosing
agents. He felt, in this case, all the Council could do is check out the
agencies and their record to determine where they think they would get the
best service.
Mr. Qureshi stated representatives from Transcontinental Brokers and Rice
Creek Agency were both to be present at this meeting, however, the representattve
from Transcontinental Brokers was delayed getting here and thought perhaps th�s
item should be tabled until later in the meeting.
MOTIOfd by Councilwoman Moses to �able this item to later in the agenda. Seconded
by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the mot�on carried unanimously.
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RESaLUTION N0. 115-1980 CERTIFYING C�MPLETION OF AGREEMENT CONUITIDNS, VILLAGE
GREEN PROJECT�
�9r. Flora, Public Works Director, stated the City had an agreement with the
Canad�an Financial Corporatior to construct V�llage Green and rn giving them
a special use permit for that construct�on, sttpulations were that Sections
A« B of the agreement wouid be accomplished.
Mr. Flora stated that Mr. R�chard Kahn of the Canadian Financial Corporation
� requtres a statement of completion from the C�ty so he can close out the pro,7ect
with the Plinnesota Housing Finance Agency.
h1r. Flora stated staff has fourd a few defic�encies, but these cannot be corrected
�an}tl next spr�ng and felt, if necessary, the $15,000 bond would cover the items
that needed to be corrected. He felt the areas that should be looked at are
the landscaping and a review of the drainage pond weir to insure that �t wiil
work correctly
�vlr. Flora stated there is also a problem in the parking area in front of the
htgh-rise whtch has small dips in the asphalt where there was standing wacer
He staced an overlay has been placed in those areas, however, he is not sure
the problem has been completely corrected.
h1r. Ward, representing Canadian Financial Corporation, stated the greatest
problem was va�th the we�r and they are not really sure until spring �f the
remedtes made will work.
Mr. Flora stated staff is working closely w�th Mr. Ward on the drainage for
the pond. Ne explained there has to be some work done to establ�sh a small
ditch or drain line on the East slope of the pond.
Mr. Qureshi stated tt should be written out exactly what �s expected and felt
there was no question on the birdbathing and landscaping, however, the ponding
� area should be graded to basically slope to the East property line and a ditch
created and if there are any water spots, atldit�onal black dii°t and material
be obtained to level them for a good growth next spring, and, further, steps
taken so the wier will be funct�oning properly.
h10TI0N by Councilwoman Moses to adopt Resolutton No. 119-1980, sub,7ect to an
agreement on the st�pulations, as prepared by the adrm m stration, outli m nq
the items to be corrected. Seconded by Counc�lman Fitzpatrick Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, P+layor Nee declared the motion carried unam mously.
MDTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution fJo. 120-1980 Seconded
by Counc�lwomar� Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, P�ayor PJee declared
the moiion car•ried unanimously.
THE SPLITTING OF SPECI
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MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to adopt Resolution No. 121-1980. Seconded
by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
� RESOLUTION N0. 122-1980 ORDERING PRELIMINARY PLAfJS, SPECIFICATIOP;S APJ�
ESTIMATES QF THE C(lSTS THEREOF: ST�Rh1 SEWER AN� �R4INAGE PR�JEGT �132.
MOTION by Counc�lman Schne�der to adopt Resolution No. 122-19ED Seconded
by Counctlman Barnette. Upon avo�ce vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unam mously.
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-1930 RECEIVING THE PRELIPIINARY REPORT AND CALLIfdG FOR A
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution Plo. 123-1950. Seconded
by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all vot�ng aye, Mayor Nee
declared the mot�on carried unan�mously.
DISCUSSION OF TfiE DAY CARE LICEPdSE APPLICATION BY ROGER AN� BETTE PAPKE: �
Mayor fJee stated last week a recommendation was received from the Fire
Inspect�on Department to deny the variance requested by Roger and Bette Papke.
f�1r. Papke explained they have deadbolt locks on two doors in �he�r home ahd
when they appl7ed for the day care license, the Fire Department recommended
th�s be altered so �t would not require a key to open the doors. Ne stated
he felt this wasn't relevant to their operation of the day care center. P1r.
Papke explained the deadbolt is, essent�ally, not used c�urtng the day, but
for security at night. He stated, normally, dur�ng the day there are parents
coming and go�ng and the door isn't locked at all.
Mr. Papke felt, in the report from the Fire Inspection Department, the�r
operat�on was not identtfi ed as a small private home operation as opposed to
a large day care center.
Ms. Terry Nagle, representing Anoka County, stated she works with the County
on the licensing of day care centers and that Mrs. Papke's operation ts not
a uay care center, but a day care ho�re for five children or less. She stated
the�r rules or regulations would prov�de a different requ�rement, depending
on the number of children. She explained �f there are 10 or less children,
the operat�on �s classif�ed as a day care home, and not a day care center,
which must meet other codes with�n the community. She stated thetr lTCense
standard tloes not address the ltfe safety code being enforced in Fridley.
t1s. Nagle stated, by law, the�r agency must not�fy the City v�hen it is their �
�ntent to license She expla�ned they are, to some extent, in conflict with
the City requirements as P4rs. Papke needs their license recommendation and
w�shes to comply, but by the�r standards is not required to have another type
of lock.
Councilman Schneider questioned Ms. Nagle if she was saying the Department of
Public Welfare does not, by reference, require any of the life safety cotle
regulations to be met. Ms. fJagle stated not at this point.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated if there is a questton as to whether the
fire safety code appltes, perhaps this matter should be referred to him for
a response, however, �f the question is should the Council wa2ve a rule that
does apply, th�s would be a consideration by the Council.
Counc�iman Schneider felt the question is if the provision of the life safety
code appl�es in this particular situation. Mr. Herr�ck stated he was not
prepared to answer until he has all the facts.
Mr. Herrick stated this rnatter was referred to him in an oral fashion where
he was asked whether the City could waive a requirement and he stated he
didn't think the City should waive the requirement, but the question as to
whether the spec�fic rule applies in this situation was not addressed.
P40TION by Counc7lman Schneider to request the City Attorney to review the '
requirements for licensing of a day care home w�th respect to the Department
of Publ�c Welfare's ru]es and the Fire Safety Code. Seconded by Councilwoman
Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor fJee declared �he motion
carr7ed unanimously.