06/01/1981 BOE - 00013196THE MINUTES OF THE CONTINUED MEETING OF THE BOARD OF REVIEW MEETING OF
JUNE 1, 1981
The Board of Review Meeting, continued from May 11, 1981, was reopened by
I�layor vee at 7:30 o m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Mayor Nee led the Council and audience �n the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
ROLL CALL:
P1EM6ERS PRESENT. Mayor Nee, Councilman Fitzpatrick, Councilwoman P1oses,
Councilman Schneider and Councilman Barnette
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
Mayor Nee stated the Board of Review Meeting on May 11, 1981 was continued
to this date in order to give staff an opportunity to provide further
information on tssues or ob,7ections that were raised at the meettng.
The Council then proceeded to review the following information submitted
by the Assessor's Office.
Mr Larry l/ogt, 1357 Fireside Drive, appeared 6efore the Council and reference
was made to the �nformatton submitted by the Assessor's Office which was used
in determining the value of his property.
Mr. Herrmann, City Assessor, explained the sales comparisons the assessor's
staff used were homes similar to the size of Mr. Vogt's home.
Counc�lwoman Moses stated she accompanied the City Assessor when a visit was
m�de to Mr. Vogt's home for appraisal purposes. She felt the two appraisals
Mr. Vogt had for $64,000 were very, very low and it would be a steal if someone
could purchase this property for that price. Council�voman Moses stated she
felt the value placed on the property by the Assessor's Office is �ustified.
Mr Voyt stated he hadn't had time to really study the facts presented by
the Assessor's Office. He stated he has furnished the Assessor's Office
with cnpies from his two reports which compares sales with other homes.
Councilman Schneider pointed out in the Connery - Hegge, Inc. report
�f you go by square footage, you come up with more than what the Assessor
has it valued.
Mr. Vogt stated ventilation was a proL-lem in his home and all his basement
floors have aracked and he has some settling of footings. He further stated
he knows a f�replace adds about $1,000 to the value of a home, but his would
I�ave to be torn out as it doesn't meet the code.
Councilwoman Moses stated she didn't see the depreciation as bad as what
Mr. Vogt has �n his mind. She felt if he sold his home for $64,000 and then
had to go out and purchase another for $80,000 or $90,000, he would be very
sorry.
Mr. Vo9t stated he would a9ree the new price of homes is high, but when
someone moves into a new home, they have a warranty period and the warranty
on his home has already run out.
Mr. Vogt stated he has asked the Assessor to show any fault in his comparisons
and he hasn't been able to do it.
Councilman Schneider asked the sale dates of the homes used in the comparison,
which was prepared for Mr. Vogt under the date of March 13, 1981. Mr. Vogt
stated the sales dates ranged from October, 198Q to February, 1981.
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Councilwoman Moses pointed out these homes are much older than Mr. Vogt's
and are not good comparisons.
Councilwoman Moses asked what recourse Mr. Vogt would have, if the Council
does not accept any chan9es in the value recommended
Mr Herrmann stated he would then have a right of appeal to the County.
MOTIDN by Councilman Schneider to accept the Assessor's recommendation that
, a value of $73,700 be placed on this property based on the comparables
presented. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses.
Mayor Nee stated the Council doesn't have a�yth�ng to gain or lose on this
issue and is simply trying to be fair to the residents. Mayor Nee urged
Mr. Vogt to continue his appeal, if he feels this isn't a fair value.
UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, all voted aye, and Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Vogt asked if he would be tnformed of the date and time of the County
meettng. He was advised it was July 6, 1981 at 10 a.m. and he could write
a letter to the Anoka County Assessor regarding his appeal or to �ust appear
before the Board on thns date.
Mr. Georqe Wick�lumi, 101 Gibraltar Road:
Eouncilman Fitzpatrick stated he 6elieves Mr. Wicklund agrees with the value
placed on his property.
MOTION by Councilman Ftizpatrick to accept the Assessor's value placed on
this property. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Up�n a voice vote, all voting
aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
� Mr. Albin Mysla,7ek, 6430 Riverview Terrace:
Mr. Herrmann, City Assessor, stated this property was inadvertently valued
as river front property, when, in fact, it is not and it was recommended
the value be reduced 6y $6,000.
Mr. Herrmann stated Mr. Mysla,7ek was sent a letter advising him of the
recommended decrease in value and he has not heard anything from him
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to accept the Assessor's recommendation
for a reduction of $6,000 in value on this property from $93,100 to $87,100.
Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Nee declared tha motion carried unanimously.
�1r. Lief Henrtksen, 6434 Rtverview Terrace.
Mr. Herrmann, City Assessor, stated �t was found Mr. Henriksen had deeded
2-z feet off the south of his property to h�s netghbor, which was not
recognized in determining the value and, therefore, a reduction of $600
�s recommended.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to accept the Assessor's recommendation to
ad�ust the value on this property 6y reducing it $600 from $12D,800 to
$120,200. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
� Mrs. Helen Argue, 6648 Channel Road
Mr. Herrmann, City Assessor, stated it was found the breezeway was of
poor construction, along with some other physical problems in the home,
and it is recommended the value be reduced by �2,300, from $50,700 to
$48,400.
He stated Mrs� Argue was sent a letter =_tating what was recommended and
staff has not heard anything from her.
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MOTION by Councilman Schneider to accept the Assessor's recommendation to
reduce the value of this property by $2,300 from $50,700 to $48,400. Seconded
by Councilman 6arnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motior carried unanimously.
Mr. �oseph Valtinson, 5215 Pierce Street:
Mr Herrmann, Ctty Assessor, stated staff would recommend no change in this
value. He stated it was explatned to Mr. Valtinson that because his value
may be double of some other property, it didn't necessarily mean the taxes
would only be double, and he felt Mr. �altinson was more concerned w�th the
taxes, than the value.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to concur with the recommendation of the
Assessor's Office to make no changes in the $1D1,400 value placed on the
property. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, ��1ayor Nee declared the mot�on carried unanimously.
Mr. Richard Harr�s, 620D Riverview Terrace:
Mr Herrmann, City Assessor, stated staff has recommended no change in
the value placed on this property.
Mr Harris stated he can't believe the value placed on his home and has
a hard time �ustifying 7t in his ov�n mind.
P4ayor Nee stated the question comes down if he believes it would sell for
that pr�ce.
Mr. Harris felt he believed the law intended true market value and shouTdn't
include the points on a mortgage and felt th�s �s what is being used in
determining the value.
Councilman Schneider pointed out the comparisons used in determinang the
value of Mr. Harris' home are the same basts used for others.
MOTION 6y Councilrnan Fitzpatrick to concur with the Assessor's recommendation
of $117,200 for the value of the property at 620D R�verview Terrace. Seconded
by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a votce vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Harold Harris, 6210 Riverview Terrace
Mr. Herrmann, C�ty Assessor, stated this home has a tremendous amount of
deferred maini�enance and the physicai deterioration was extreme, therefore,
he would recommen�! a decrease in value of $23,000 from $104,000 to$81,000.
Councilwoman Moses stated she accompanied the Assessor when he went through
this home and �n order to make the home saleable or livable, it would need
a lot of work. She felt a buyer would have to put from $25,000 to $30,000
in the home in order to make it livable.
flayor Nee asked Mr. Harrts if he felt thts was a reasonable adjustment.
Mr. Harris questioned the value on the home last year, which was $85,300.
Mr. Harris stated he appreciated the a�31,000 value, however, he was looking
for a fair figure and felt $85,000 for a value on the property would be
fair.
Councilwoman f�loses asked what pr�ce he would be looking for if the home
was p]aced on the market now Mr. Harr�s statedhe fe7t around $85,000, as
he felt someone would have to put $20,000 to $25,000 in the home to make
�t livable.
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MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to accept the recommendation of the
Assessor to place an assessed value on this property at 6210 Riverview
Terrace of $81,000. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote,
all vot�n9 aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
Richard Harris, 7765-95 Main Street, 7701-03 Main Street; 7710-
iiuu-yu riain a
Mr. Herrmann , City Assessor, stated he would like to turn the matter of
� the values placed on these properties over to Mr Leon Madsen who has
done all the research. Mr. Madsen stated he didn't have anything further
to add from what was presented to the Council regarding values placed
on these properties, based on land sales in the area.
Mr, Harris questioned the building to land ratto in the report.
Mr. Madsen stated properties do have extra land and additions could be
made.
Mr. Harr,t� stated the reason rdly�rre 6ui ldi ngs weren't constructed any 1 arger
was because they couldn't meet all the setback requ�rements and still
provide the 40% building to land ratio.
Mr. Madsen pointed out they have not valued the excess land at an excess
rate.
He stated on Mr. Harr�s' three properties the value ranged from $19.65 to
$22.61 a square foot and sales in the area showed prices ranging from
$28.OD to �36.00 a square foot.
Mr. Narris stated he bu�lt those buildings and can't believe they are
worth that much. He point�d out they are looking at an �nflation factor
that is almost a year old and if they were looking at it today, it may
be something different.
�Mr. Harris stated he didn't think the way property is being taxed is
_ doing anything for tte�tate's finances and especially for inflation
He pointed out the taxes on one building in a three year per�od went up
$3,400. He stated, whoever is renting the 6uilding, has to ptick up the
increase in taxes wh�ch would be added on to the pr�ce of their product
and, in turn, the higher price passed on to the consumer. He felt this
is one place they should start to curb inflation.
Mr. Harris stated he will appeal this and felt there should be some clear
cut gutdelines.
MOTION by Councilwoman Mases to accept the Assessor's value on Mr. Harris's
properties. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a vo�ce vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Edward Fragale, 6480 Riverview Terrace:
Mr. Herrmann, City Assessor, stated this is another case where the property
was valued as river front property which, in fact, is not the case, therefore,
a$5,800 reduction in value is recommended.
MOTION by Councilman F�tzpatrick to accept the recommendat�on of the Assessor's
Office and reduce the value of this prop�erty by �a5,800 from $91,900 to
� �86,100. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
___ M�r.. Larence Larson, Jr., 517 - 53-z Avenue:
P10TION by Councilman Schneider to sustain the Assessor's value placed on
this property. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a vo�ce vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carr�ed unaimously.
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Mr. John Evens, 1565 South Bavar�an Pass:
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MOTION by Councilman Schneider to sustain the Assessor's value placed on
this property. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carr�ed unanimously.
Mr. Henrv Zimmer. 4021 Californ�a Street:
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to accept the correct�on made by the
Assessor's Office in the value of this property. Seconded by Councilman
Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously.
Mr. Ralph Truax, 7880 - 7884 Elm Street:
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to sustain the Assessor's value placed on
this property. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote,'
all votin9 aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried una�mously.
Mr Herrrnann stated he wished to thank his staff for getting all this
information together and appreciated their work.
MOTION by Councilman Fttzpatrick to close the Board of Review Meeting.
Seconded 6y Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unaimously and the Board of Review
Meeting of Junel, 1981 closed at 8:35 p. m.
Respectfully submitted,
Carole Haddad
Recording Secretary
Approved: June 15, 1981
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William . Nee
Mayor
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THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETLNG OF THE FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL OF
JUNE 1, 1981
The Regular Meeting of the Fridley City Council was called to order at
8:37 p. m. by Mayor Nee, after the Council met as the Board of Review.
MEMBERS PRESENT
MEMBERS ABSENT
Mayor Nee, Councilman Fitzpatrick, Councilwoman Moses,
Councilman Schneider and Councilman Barnette
None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
BOARD OF REVIEW, MAY 11, 1981:
MDTION by Councilman Ftizpatr�ck to approve the m�nutes as presented.
Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carr�ed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, MAY 11, 1981:
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to approve the m�nutes as presented. Seconded
by Councilrnar Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried uraa•,imou�ly.
REGULAR MEETING, MAY 18, 1981.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to approve the minutes, with the following
correct7ons: Page 2, last line and the second line on Page 4> eliminate
the words "unanimously". Seconded by Counc�lman Barnette. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
A�OPTION OF AGEN�A:
Councilman Schne�der requested the follciv�ng item be added: "Consideration
of Recommendation of Appointment to the Charter Commisston"
MOTIOfd by Councilman Schneider to adopt the agenda, with the above addition.
Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
OPEN FORUM, VISITORS:
There was no response from the audience under th�s item of business.
� CONSI
ING OLD CHAPTER 11
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Councilman Schneider questioned if some of the fees for rezoning, lots spltts,
and var�ances could be prohibitive for an individual. He questioned if there
may be ciifferences between a simple and complex rezoning, lot split, or
variance.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated the amount of admim strative time �nvolved
would be the same and pointed out part of the cost for these items is serving
notice to surrounding properties. He stated it should be recogn�zed these
fees are direct costs to be paid by persons rece;ving services and has the
validityof those using the services paying the cost, rather than the general
taxpayer.
� Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated he has some question about the penalty
clause under Sect�on 11.11. He felt the 25% penalty if the fee is 1 to 7
days late and the 50% penalty if the fee �s more than 7 days late, is rather
high.
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Mayor Nee felt the Council could hold a f�rst reading on the ordinance and
have staff review this item for an adjustment.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to waive the reading and approve the ordinance
upon first reading. Seconded by Counc�lman Schneider.
Councilman Barnette questioned the fee for saunas and felt by putting th�s in
the ordinance, the Council was saying they are acceptable. Mr. Qureshi
pointed out this sauna fee was in the previous ordinance.
Councilwoman Moses asked about the liquor license fee and the reason for the
�ncrease.
Mr. Qureshi pointed out that costs are accelerating and if the Council feels
the Figure they had three years ago was reasonable, the �ncrease proposed
would also be fair because of the inflation.
Councilwoman Moses' concern was this would be an annual fee and these costs
would have to be pa�d for renewal of a license.
UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, all voted aye, and Playor Nee
declared the motion carried unanmiously.
� RECEIVING CATV COMMISSION MINUTES OF MAY 14, 1981:
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MOTION by Councilman Schneider to receive the minutes of the Cable Television
Commission Meeting of May 14, 19�1. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Playor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL RE: CAMERA AND RECORDER.
��1r. Qureshi, City Ma�nager, stated, at the budget discussions, the Council did
wish to invest�gate this matter further and money was put �n the budget, even
though there wasn't a full commtttment.
Mr. Inrian, City Clerk, explained the City has a computer on loan which was
installed last week and is being tested. He pointed out this computer has the
potential of doing more than the Apple Computer.
Mr. Qureshi stated it was felt they wanted to try this computer to determine
,7ust how it would work.
Mayor PJee stated he is reluctant to proceed with the camera and recorder until
they rnake sure they have what is needed.
Mr. Qureshi stated he understands the recommendation from the Cable Commtssion
was to purchase the equipment because of the price at which it could be obtained.
Mayor Nee felt staff should further investigate the computer they now have
in the Police �epartment to determine the capabilities, wtth a report back to
the Council in a month or so.
Mr. Qureshi stated the Counctl could then consider this recommendation,
therefore, no action was taken onthe item at this time.
Mr. Inman, City Clerk, stated a recor,�nendation has been made by the auditors
to establish a special revenue fund to carry employees leaves, pensions, and
insurancespayable, which, in the past, have been carried in the General Fund.
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Mr. Inman stated the resolution would accomplish this by transferring the
present amount of ltability out of ti�e General Fund and into the Employee
Benef�t Accrual Fund.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt Resolution No. 68-1981. Seconded IaY
Councilman��Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unantmously.
� � CONSIDERATION OF TRAILER LICENSE - ONAN
Mr. Qureshi, C�ty Manager, stated a representative from Onan is here this
evem ng regarding their request for a license toinstall a temporary trailer
on their property.
Mr. Nelson, representing Onan, stated thereason the request �s for a�hr°eyaar
period is they have a lot of custom development work to be done on a new
product for which they need this space.
Mr. Nelson s,ta�edthe trailer �as some special features as there is a fire
rated wall on both sides due to the close proximity of the other building.
He explained neither the location or trailer would be unsightly„
Councilwoman�Moses asked if they would be develop�ng other new products in
the future so that this issue may come up again. Mr. Nelson explained they
would, however, have different requirements during the development period.
He stated they have long-range plans for the site that woulcl involve other
facilities, however, he didn't know how far down the road this would be and
a lot could change.
MDTION by Councilman Schneider to approve the temporary house trailer
appltcation for Onan for a three year period. Seconded 6y Councilman
Fitzpatr�ck. Upon a voice �uote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the
motion carried unanimously.
� Counctlman Schneider requested the staff and Onan work together on what is
required on this site.
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Mr Flora, PUblic Works Director, stated Council action is needed on two
change orders in order to complete the pro,7ect for the Nature Center Building.
He explained these are Change Orders #11 and #12 regarding the L. P. gas
conversion and electrical panel chan�e for a total of $353,362. Mr. Flora
further stated the architectural fee �s �45,702.32.
MOTION by Counc�lman Schne�der to approve Change Orders #11 �n the amount
of $250 for L. P. gas convers�on and r�12 imthe amount of $413 for electrial
panel change for a total amount of $353,362 and the architectural fee of
$45,702.32 with Design Consortium, Inc. for the Springbrook Nature Center
Construction. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
� APPOINTMENT - CITY EMPLOYEE:
MOTION by Counctlwoman Moses to concur with the following appointment
EFFECTIVE
NAME POSITION SALARY DATE REPLACES
William P. Murphy Mechanic $8.513 Hr. June 1, 1981 John Wright
7830 Glor�a Circle Public Works
Moundsv�ew, MN 55432 Maintenance/
Streets
Seconded by Councilman Schneider. lJpon a voice vote, all votin9 aye, Mayor
Nee declared the motion carried una m mously.
REGULAR MEETING OF �UNE 1, 1981
n� CLAIMS
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MOTION by Councilman Schneider to authorize payment of Claims PJo. 121CO3
through 149F35. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
LICENSES:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to approve the licenses as submitted and as
on file �n the L�cense Clerk's Office. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously.
ESTIMATES:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to approve the estimates as submitted.
TKDA & Assoc., Inc.
2500 Amer�can National
St. Paul, MN 55101
Bank Building
Engineering Services - preparation of
Infiltration/Inflow Analysis, P�arch 19£31
NDH, Inc.
700 Industry Avenue N.W.
Anoka, h1N 55303
Partial Est. #1 - Street Improvement
Pro�ect No. St. 1981-1
$ 2,083.82
$103,199.93
Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, P4ayor
Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF RECOMMENDATION OF APPOINTMENT TO THE CHARTER COMMISSION
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to recieve a letter from Dr. Ralph Stouffer
and forward this to the Judge with the Council's recommendation for Dr.
Stouffer's appointment to the Charter Commission. Seconded by Councilwoman
Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Councilman Schne�der to ad,7ourn the meeting. Seconded by Councilwoman
Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the inotion carried
unam mously and the Regular Meettn9 of the Fr�dley City Counctl of June 1, 1981
ad,7ourned at 9:30 p. m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Carole Haddad
Secy. to the City Council
Approved ,lune 15, 1981
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William . Nee
Mayor
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