10/24/1994 JOINT - 4938JOINT FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL AND
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
CONFERENCE MEETING
MONDAY, 4CTOBER 24, 1994
6:00 P.M. (Dinner will be provided)
MEETING ROOMS 1 AND 2(LOWER LEVEL)
1. Review Planning Commission
Recommendation on Design
Guidelines
2. Review Options and Financial
Tools Regarding Apartments
Along Satellite Lane
3. Review Recommendation on
Two Developer Candidates
6:OOpm-8:OOpm
8:00 pm - 10:00 pm
10:00pm-11:OOpm
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SUBJECT:
BackQround
Community Development Department
HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
City of Fridley
October 20, 1994
William Burns; �Executive Director of the HRA .+���
Barbara Dacy, Community Development Director
Review Planning Commission Recommendation on
Design Guidelines �
At the August 22, 1994 joint City Council and Housing &
Redevelopment Authority meeting, staff was directed to retain .
consultants to assist in the preparation of guidelines for the
site plan and the exterior design of the housing units for the
redevelopment of the Southwest Quadrant. At the September 1994
HRA meeting, authorization was provided to hire McCombs, Frank,
Roos Associates, Inc. to assist with the site plan guidelines and
to hire Close and Associates to assist with the exterior building
design guidelines.
Development of Design Guidelines
The consultants prepared a nwmber of site plan and exterior
building design options for Planning Commission consideration
its September 7, 1994 meeting and the October 5, 1994 meeting.
The consultants have compiled the Planning Commission's
discussion into a written outline which is included separately
your packet. Minutes of both meetings are also attached__
(Attac�ment #1).
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The consultants and staff also met with two local realtors to
gain a practical market perspective of the site as a residential
housing development. On October 12, 1994, staff and consultants
met with Dave Ryan of Coldwell Banker and Bill Pickering of
Burnet Realty. A synopsis of their impressions of the 5outhwest
Quadrant as a housing site is attached (Attachment #2). Both
stressed that the development needs to overcome a commercial
image. They also stressed the importance of mitigating or
eliminating as many negative impressions of the site as possible,
such as noise from University Avenue and compatibility with the
apartments to the south. On the positive side, however, they
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Recommendation on Design Guidelines
October 20, 1994
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noted other existing features of the intersection would
complement the development such as the Fridley Plaza Clinic and
convenience shopping available at Holly Center.
The realtors also noted a strong demand for the empty-nester
market in the $90,000 -$120,000 range. Townhome living appears ,
to be more attractive than in recent years. They feel the
attractiveness of the price of the unit will be the strongest
asset, and that Fridley residents will compose most of the market
demand for the townhomes.
Where Do We Go From Here?
The City Council and HRA are now at "Step 2" of the review
process outlined in Attachment #3. The next step is to meet with
the top two developers (selection to occur later in the meeting),
find out additional information; and find out the developer's
response to the design guidelines. Staff will then recommend a
developer at the.November 10, 1994 HRA meeting and the November
14, I994 City Council meeting.
Recommendation
Staff recommends that the City Council and HRA authorize staff to
use these guidelines as a starting point to�meet with the
selected developers. It is not necessary to adopt a specific
site plan or bnilding design; rather, it is intended that the
guidelines reflect what the City wants to accomplish in the
redevelopment.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. SEPT�MBER ?, 1994 � PAGE 11
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to receive
minutes of the Housing & Red�velopment Authority meetinq of
August 11, 1994. � �
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN ECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOQSLY.
6. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES MMISSION
MEETING OF AUGUST 11, 1994
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Saba, o receive the
minutes of the Human Resources Commission eeting of August 11,
1994.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, C�IRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY. � - • - -
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MOTION by Mr. Sielaff, se nded by Mr. Saba, to receive the
minutes of the Environm tal Qualit.y &'Energy':Coiamission meeting
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UPON A POICE VOTE, LL'VOTING AYE, CHAZRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED
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8. RECEIVE- E'`MINUTES' OF -THE APPEALS' COMMISSION""MEETING OF
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MOTION Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr '�Sielaff; to�receive the
minut of the Appeals Commission meeting of August 23, 1994.
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9. CONSIDER ELEMENTS OF SOUTHWESTsbUADRANT� DESIGNx��2EVIEW- .•• '�;
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Ms. Dacy reviewed the properties considered�to be`�'part of`the
southwest quadrant. T�ie City Council and HRA have not yet come
to a conclusion but they are evaluating the option to�- �'
significantly rehabilitate the apartment buildings or the option
to acquire the apartments, relocate the tenants, demolish the
buildings and gain additional acreage. That decision should be
made fairly soon. Between now and November, there will be two
processes going on at one time. The Planning Commission is being
asked to look at how the development should be designed and how
thi.s should look_ At the same time, staff will be working with �
developers to solicit interest in owner-occupied townhomes or,
perhaps, apartments for empty nesters.
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Mr. Kondrick stated, regarding the senior apartment building,
there is a high-rise on Central Avenue by the car wash. It was a
senior building for many years and then it changed to open
housing. Since that change, there has been an increase in crime
and problems. Is there a way to insist that this will remain as
originally intended?
Ms. Dacy stated this can be controlled to a certain degree.
Housing for seniors and/or empty nesters daes not necessarily
mean a high-rise. The taller the building the more room that is
needed for parking. Staff are thinking of 40-60 units with a
bui.lding three or four stories tall.
Mr. Kondrick stated he has talked with friends about townhouse
developments and they want to know what kind of money this will
mean. There are concerns about this being low income and that
this may turn into something that we do not want.
Mr..Saba stated he has also heard similar concerns.
Ms. Dacy stated this is also a concern of the City Council and
HRA.-_. The::minimum value:of the homes being considered is
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approximately $90,000. They want this to be a quality
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Mr. Newman stated he-.thought.one must look at the market place.
Multiple owners can purchase a single family home if they -
qualify. They must meet the requirements just as others must.
_ This is the-same opportunity as with single family homes.
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Mr. Kondrick asked if,they,could recommend that this development
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Mr. Saba stated he is cancerned also that this particular
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r� :_ location` itiay� riot�� appeal . to �a developer: � If we cannat get .what we
;=_: '`" want and liave °to_ take �less than we want, how much less are we
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Mr. Kondrick agreed that this=could b�.a good development if it
is quiet, weil planned and well developed_ There is access and
� this is a convenient location.
Ms. Modig stated, in order to be an attractive development, they
will need to acquire the apartments also. With the apartments
there as they are, this will not be an attractive area.
Mr. Saba stated he thought the railroad tracks would also have an
effect. Residents need access to the river or to a park area,
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and he'`-didn't'think you could get that with a shopping center
across the street.� • ••
Mr. Kondrick stated he thought this could be a quality
development but it will take some dollars to make it an
attractive area_
Ms. Dacy stated there are two processes going on at the same
time. The Planning Commission is to review the consultant's site
plan and the architect will bring forward some designs.
Concurrently, the HRA is concerned about market issues. Staff
have talked to developers to address the site, and the developer
is asking some of the same questions. Hopefully, when the
Planning Commission is done, the HRA will have a short list of
developers willing to work with us on the design issues. What we
can do to make this better is the intent. She thought_,the City
Council and HRA agree with the concerns expressed here.
Mr. Kondrick asked the number of units proposed for senior
housing.
Ms. Dacy stated the senior housing would be 40 to 60 units. The
other issue i�s to try to get the density on the townhomes to be
attractive .;to a�.developer and at the same , time _ generate ,the tax
increment =base ;�for_=the�HRA =�T°The-�towniiome-=�deeelopers` would like
-to-;.ha�e� ,a11 10.-acres �=: Thisr:�is:=`one of. the--few-'sites left:`: zoned R-
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Mr. Sielaff asked if.there was a determination of need for senior
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Ms:�Dacy�stated'a study done;�in 1991 showed the immediate demand
for l0:years.was:_about;-.200 units. The Westminster proj�ect is
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�. Mr. Sielaff asked if the propdsal_takes into account the need.
_. Ms.:. Dacy ;stated•. it does not =satisfy-..,the entire : need but it does
address the need somewhat '
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Mr:' Oquist asked`� if Ms.� Dacy �had an idea of what affect that may
. ,have on a townhouse development parallel with that. It seems to
be based on the size of the area.
Ms. Dacy stated the reaction from developers has been positive.
They would like the entire 10 acres, but the uses can co-exist.
Mr. Kondrick asked, if the apartments were to b� acquired, the
overall acquisition costs would be increased and this would also
have a bearing on this.
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Ms. Dacy stated this is a decision to be made by the HRA and the
City Council. The Planning Commission should try to focus on the
exterior designs and look at a site plan. Also, conduct�a
neighborhood meeting.
Mr. Oquist stated the timetable is tight.
Ms. Dacy stated the HRA would be selecting the short list of
developers in October. Staff would have the rest of October to
work with this short list to see if one developer will work. The
schedule is aggressive. She hopes in two weeks to have someone
at the meeting to present some comments.
Mr. Newman recommended having two meetings. One of the key
events is the Parade of Homes. If this could be done by next
fall, this event would help. The.City does not want to force a
bad product and will take the time needed. � --
Ms. .Dacy stated the_architect wiil look at the exterior oE the
buildings. Staff have asked for three alternatives just to start
laying out some conc.epts and asked members to try to visualize
how they want this to look. This will be included as part of the
next meeting's_agenda.
3. ,.(Continued).,PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECTAL SE
PERMIT, SP #94-12 BY MONTE AND MICHELLE MAHER.
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Mr. Newman stated informed the petitioner that the C ission had
already taken action to table this item until Sept er 21.
Because there were persons attending the public earing from.the
neighborhood, he would stand by the motion to able the public
hearing. The Commission directed staff to notify the neighbors
regarding the request. � `.. -
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ADJOURNMENT - _. _ _
MOTION by�Mr. Oquist, seconded b Ms:� Modi.g, to adjourn the �
meeting.-
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UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VO G AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEAMAN DECLARED ��
T$E MOTiON CARRIED AND E SEPTEMBER 7, 1994, PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING ADJOIIRNED AT .SO P.M.'
Respectfully subm�ted,
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Lavonn ooper
Reco ing Secretary
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4. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES CONINIISSION
MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 8.•1994
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to r eive the
Human Resources Commission minutes of September 8-1994. _
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE,
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
5.
MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1994
NEAMAN DECLARED
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, secon by Ms. Modig, to receive the
Housing Redevelopment Autho ' y minutes of September 6, 1994.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL TING AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEWMAI� DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IMOIISLY.
6. RECEIVE THE INUTES OF THE PARKS .&��RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING' SEPTEMBER 12 1994
MOTION bg r. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Saba, to xeceive the
Parks;& ecreation Commission minutes.of:September.l2, 1994.
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7. Continue_Review of Design Guidelines for Southwest Quadrant
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Mr.-Gair stated it is tYie responsibility of this commission to `
�facilitate redevelopment by.forming a set of guidelines and not_�
to: get.. pre-occupied with a. specific plan or specific :_ �-_ _ _
< architecture -:�_. This . is:;a :complex;=.and- difficult;; :undertakinq. :� He. �.
. suggested �"members° view: the:::plans. being .presented: as° if=�they�- were `
�:� an�,owner/accupantl-of. one .of��these.;homes ._;-�Ms.; �O.'Connell- will: make
' a presentation for the�site plan.-'It is important to-focus on
features such as:.�open;._space,_:'.:orientation,:. buffering spaces, etc.
Prior,:to�J.the ;meeting, ; •he _went,;,to.;r�the-..property,:to�� see .it at< riight:
` - He- looked in all directions,: �l'istened k to`- traffic; and imagined-: ,
the area with homes. Although the'Commission may not have the
same feelings;-he asked they:try-::to keep daytime and nighttime
visual;and sound.in mind to-make the most habitable environment.
Ms. O'Connell stated, at the last meeting, the favorable comments
were with Plans B and C and those are.the plans that have been
developed. At the last meeting, they did not have avaiiable the
site improvement along Mississippi. The site is therefore
smaller. They met with staff and set guidelines for 3rd Street
as a through street. There is a 60-foot right-of-way and a 60
degree curve. They have also.added a detention pond. The
Commission indicated they liked using 3rd Street as a transition.
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The density has been reduced using the recommendation oi 1/3
single level and 2/3 multi level.
Ms. O'Connell presented two plans - B which is organized around a
pedestrian use, and C which is organized around village greens.
The difference in housing is that C has a row house style that
faces a village green. The green is 62 feet across and the backs
of the units are 40 feet-45 feet apart. B has car entry ports.
Where the units face each_other is closer and the back yards have
65 feet between units. B has the view directed to the rear. An
open space dissects the site and breaks it down into spaces.
Pedestrians travel alvng the sides of the homes for the most part
and connects wi.th future and�existing trails within the city. C
focuses on open space which is the village green and is something
people view and walk around. There is less open space in the
back. Pedestrians travelling within the site have a different
experience. _On B, the meeting is by chance on the trails:= The
homes do not have direct views onto the trail. P1an C has a
pedestrian and auto�mix:which;is a more=formal experience.��`
Pedestrians walk along the houses and around the green. P1an C
has a frontaget,-road �that�:intersects <witti` 3rd =Street;v-travels�,=�;
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along M�.ssissipp3��;and,��connects <�ith :Sazei3i�e: ��.4In�, addition, � ;
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the thinking for', the garages ``facing qut' `is to act � as a� buffer: `' '
The intent is to blunt;the severe'effect with the garage �=._It can
be enhanced with other features to soften. Aivng Mississippi,
the. units have the parking below and:it is the closed side of the
building. _
Mr. Saba asked if they were planning to put in mature trees. -
Ms. O'Connell stated that depends oM the cost. Typical planting
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size is 2.5 to 3 inches which 'transplants well. The bigger the
tree, the more cos�ly. �•
Mr. Saba asked if they would be using a mix of deciduous and
evergreens . -"` _
Ms. O'Connell stated there would be both. Evergreens go well for
screening.
Mr. Newman asked if, in Plan C, there was enough room along
University for mature trees. ,
Ms. O'Connell stated this does not need a lot of greenery. The
front of the unit is the entrance and the view is to the rear.
Plan B has a different effect. There can be a combination.
Mr. Kondrick stated the garages m�y act as a sound barrier, but
in terms of marketability, he is worried about the noise from �:-
University compared to greenery on the.-.other plan. �
Mr. Hargans stated the space does'not help with sound.::It is
more of a visual thing as far; as sound. If you. cannot;.see., ;.the ...
sense is that is screened.
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- Mr. Kondrick stated,- in �terms.��f=:�aarlcet,'��iou3d_:�,tie`�units�aci�ig.� . =
University on P1an 8 be as.�marketable as n th��o�.�3s�,e fa,�cg�i��nl{�[g=�=.0 '_,e�slty �a �; �.t
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Mr. Hargans stated- one, may have a, hard time;-saying B is your.._. �:;
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Mr. Newman stated Plan C shows a sidewalk system '.
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Ms. O'Connell�*stated Plan B=along M�ssissippi'vhas 'a 5k,foot: ��.,� -�
boulevard, a 5"" foot �sidewalk, � d�t�eri'�a�bei�a�that�,is=�`6�eet�hZgii� �T �z 3 4;
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There would 90 feet of open�'space between'the backs of the units �
with the pedestrian trail. ��!
Mr. Kondrick stated this plan with the 9-foot berm seems as if it
would be a more effective sound barrier.
Mr. Newman asked if they had considered snow storage on these
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Ms. O'Connell stated she thought there was opportunity alonq the
lots for snow storage. Plan�•B would probably xequire snow to be
moved out of the roadways. Plan C would have space on tiie
village greens. There may-be a probleYU on�the_frontage road.
Mr. Oquist asked if the City would maintain the roadway.
Ms. Dacy stated the City would maintain 37rd Street. The roadways
in the complex would be private.
Mr. Oquist asked, on Plan B, if there is,an issue from an
emergency standpoint with the.walkway.
Ms. O'Connell sta�ed,150 feet maximum feet is the guideline. If
there is a concern, a i6-foot width could be kept.free of trees.
Mr. Ne�rman stated he has concerns about someone qetting��lost an�l
needing`a place to.turn around. On Plan B, can an effective.job�
be done with signs. -, �. .. _..; . .„
Mr. Gair_stated-he thought there would be mailboxes-or .
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aezerminea.°�<°, vntortunately.-_:for�home,T.owners �association, �: tiiey: wi1.1 :;��
need to regulate' .and : monitor. �� He would 'strongly.;: encourage the :-.
City to plan for 0.5 per unit but: not build it right away.
Mr. Kondrick asked if a future buyer would see this at the time
of purchase. -
Ms. o'Connell stated there-are opportunities'to provide parking
which are not shown here:
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 5 1994 �PAGE 17
Mr. Carlson stated each unit has two indoor spaces and two _.
outdoor spaces. Guests can also parallel park on Plan C alorig
the village greens. � �
Mr. Gair stated another option is to handle_overflow parkin,g on
3rd Street. The City of Plymouth has regulated that spaces in
front of garages cannot be counted. There becomes much parking
in that case.
�Mr. Kondrick asked if people are attracted to that going in.
Mr. Newman stated he thought most people that do that will not
live in townhomes.
Ms. O'Connell stated staff had requested that they also look at a
40-unit age regulated condo. As previous_discussed, this would
be 3-4 stories in height. -
I •
Mr. Hargans stated this is something;to�°think about.because_.there ;
are concerns about row houses and density. Putting in such a
unit frees up �he rest of the site:- It-can be;placed.in the:
corner of Mississippi.� and- University and ,.the elevator�could ;be.. :_
used for a: future covered �crossing -�� �. t� � Y������ Y j •��� ��
: : y� ; :.
. . � " �'d' 3 x� �fi i F t*� .e, s r L A-.�"��� �wCf 'ra .'�7';�' �'r';� '�e^ .. .
Mr-.� Carlson �st��ed�4��uiii���`cou�c'i+�fst�tig�y�in�•o�'the�cor�er�„����;�' .<: , . ; .:= :
`, , { -next to.� the �rontage:�r.a�ad.. � - ¢< �.� :;z�� g
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Mr.� Oquist - asked . where =.the tCity,�was� with�:the � apartment�'bus�dings..� `
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Ms . Dacy stated this would lie : discussed on Octolier; , 2 4 n�,� �'���#� „�; ,..,
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_ Mr. 0quist �stated�ane.x conside=
._ �par.tment bui3sciiangs,�r�m�� ��ip
y ���'' ����"�'�s...��
1� d �: ����z ,
� Mr .���Newman ::�sta
l units _ to tYie �
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'' Mr:. :Sa�ia stated`�e�rl.�.�Ced,� 1 , . , as e� � t��a :: �ea , ;�` :
� �;� 5�3F ,^ ,7:,. 4� �, ,. �k>, �„ ,_ r � � s'9�q�# -�Y' ..n. "ts
�� the walkwa �:�se arat�ion;�and�.�se arat�ion� frQm��tiie ei 'Yil�orhood�.�r iie �,r
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- liked the i�qeneral ::layout:�� K It�`seems';�more.�tZke:� "„ eighborhood:f�'_ 4,, ;y
Plan C has some nice : elements :but : it�:�has =too �auch;T�of ari :proj ect� ��. n, ;:�:
ok. He liked
the villa e-` reens�:•and the one..wa str
eets :.k.;. He .
lo g g Y
- rosswalk over :�
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o a c
he ' ea of the a ar a
liked t id
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University. He would like'to see-better access to that elevator. -
Overall he would choose Plan B. It is-more of a neighborhood
than a development. Plan�C seems more rigid. .If a senior plan.. ` -
' is included, he would prefer`to"see°it where the apartments are �•
� s -
now. On these two plans, he;likes�the idea of a pedestrian cros
walk. If the building must`b.e put-_in; the; corner is okay ;but .he.,,�;
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 5. 1994 PAGE 18
would prefer not-to have it.
Mr. Oquist stated he did not see the need for senior housing
unless it is where the apartments are now. He liked Plan B. It
gives the feel of-a lot of green space and a lot of open area.
His son lived in a community in Denver which had the walkway
concept which was very nice. Plan C is too geometric and too
neat. He liked the village greens and the mall effect but there
is aiso some of that on the other plan. B has better buffering.
He woul.d like.to see something done with the apartments. There
needs to be a buffer to the rest of community. As long as they
are going this far, he would green up also.
Mr. Kondrick asked if.there could be more places for water in the
complex such as ponds in the larger open areas.
Ms. O'Connell stated this may be a problem. With water, there
become requirements with the level of the homes in relation to
the water, level . . - _ , . :._ ,
-: � :
II Mr. Kondrick'stated he preferred Plan B. He liked the topography
with ; the berms;��° open spaces,: ; and;<the =°number of . trees. The
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� exterior can be;a, changed ' and can�have =-;a - fremendous _: impact.. -: He ,,-
�, likesr,the green:.areas,�the walking•path, and the driveways. �
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t, .
� � `� There��s���ark�g�prolii�em�o oth•'plans::�He."woulci,Mprefer `to'�see � -
. _ : � . _ . ,_ .:. _ u _--._ __ _ �. � ., _ _ . ,-,: .
r unit _-building�in°�P1an:
apartments are would x
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Ms. Modig
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�thought-"=a��� senior _�area�=where �-the � : � •�
od_ ., location .
�_��`-'-� � �' - - � _
ian B with its green spaces. She is
, y� . ,_
a�ccessibrlaty��or,: emergency °�ehicles.
�u lit� i °� ould�,prote,�c�t��e,� �,esidents� � ;, � ;
. �d'�! .� � ssissippl= and� woul�d� be,�.�iore � _ . :. � . ,
"�� ;;' �AllAll 4 :�l,.illiUi.�:.u��s„�wvusu�yroauc� �,a. quaiizyx�area� � �ne wousa::nprerer .�,,;: ��:, , �.
�, ` to :see;�a.:new*buildi-ng with a�°combination of=rental-�and condos: °�= "°
��� " She would �1ike :to • see �something;�on tY�e = corner with':accessibil-ity..
� � to rapid transit:'-: If - using � an�:'eievator, it' could' be accessible ""
' to those also living in the`co�aunity.� She would also like to
see more water, but it is not_a big thing.
-
; Mr. Kondrick asked if eliminating the apartments would cause �ny
ii design difficulties with either pian_
Ms. O'Connell stated no. This area��could fit well into either
design. ._. .; . ,. _ ,
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Mr. Sielaff stated he has a bias for green spaces and minimal
hard surface so he prefers Plan B. Personally, he didn't think
this was a place for a highrise. It would be out of scale to
what this would be. If there needs to be senior housing, in need
to be in scale with what is in the development. There is a
problem with snow removai and snow storage.
Mr. Newman stated he likes on Plan B the set backs from the
roadways, the screening, the berms, and the walkway. The car
courts create a claustrophic effect. There seems to be more hard
surface area. He likes the village greens on C. Depending on
the architecture,.they could_duplicate that on B. He has seen
complexes such as B elsewhere. Plan C is distinctive and set off
from other communities. From the standpoint of parking, snow
removal and getting lost, the traffic flow is eas.ier on C.
Mr. Kondrick stated it was of interest that�people would be
walking around that area. If going by the drawings, it does not
indicate-that. Most garages have access off the drive. The
fronts of the houses wi11`face`the green areas and will not have
a promenade_
Mr: ��Newman stated; ; if in fact��:the -village . greeris are on the
� garage;side'and will not be•seen by:.the_.residents living there,
°: it:-makes: more ?.sense:�,to, go with :B�where .t�he �focus.- is on the green
��, space He�,thought�he�nnits��ould have �a�tuck ,under garage and
..z �# 3 u�. �-rf ,z m�v � �:, a�.v � �-a�:- �+. �- -?'�s.r, a�=..-,.. r ws� Z,: �.>�� ,
� � � Y ��livin��above�,�nd�ha�e� green�space on+�both, sides .�.+„-B has�reen � ' �'
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highrise,-his::first reaction�is_�that`=they`have done a'great���job �
of- coming �;up with an overal3.��design-��•but° her�would�want�- to see•- an �
overall layout'first. 'The southeast`'corner seemed more
: appropriate�:�and=�.set:�,off-��rom�#�eexest t-r .He ; does��?not feel strongly
about�senior�housing:�:Singfi'e�level�l:iving�.appeals to�empty�--•
. � . :h � � .,�. �.., �:, ,�..� ,:. i r --_ � -
nesters ,Economics�'may dictate tha�� . , �
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Mr: �Saba�stated�� , oe���not � aite�se�se��to.�mess� up the�-.development -:. -
. ;:. ,;: �ti z �, ,�s,�> � ,
for density.;�,�� � � s � ��� < �� �, � �` �� � 1 r -
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Mr �Newman��stated �senior`�housing ;may>v�{create .tlie 'economies for the �
green"�spaces�iri��tiiat�area"�-�ie�tYiought� ittwould -be needed.�if`=the�� ` .
apartments are � taken out'. � "`� "� ���< - -
.:. �� ,.. .:, � : :� � 1�.�� w� MJ �,R'i"°��k,_ �� �� :- .��- ._ � -. ., . � . - .
Mr. Hargans stated the'architects•have been-working closely with
the site planners which is the first part of this project. Now
we are getting into the architecture. He would like reaction
based on those things the Commission wants to see. For
guidelines, we need to come to the best option and include those
aspects that you like the best. Handling water on the site is an -
issue. The roof forms must respond handle water. The sense of .
identity is also a consideration. How much do you want to
accentuate the individual unit? There is a piece that talks
PLANNING COMMISSION MBETING, OCT�BSR 5, 1994 PAG$ 20
about accessories. Another issue is green space and also usable:<
green•space. How much is-usable? Green space will be used for .
buffers. We must also thinlc about la�d use. -
` Mr. Hargans presented a variety af forms from simple to more
complex. This can be the extent to which to suggest a style.
What kind of character do you want the area to have? In Fridley,
most of the housing has low roofs, broad overhangs and a
horizontal type of facade. Two-thirds of the units are two- -
story. How are you going to get that effect with a two-story
unit? The designs start as very simple to more complicated
design. As the design gets more complicated, it also gets more
expensive. Sometimes the details can add a touch of character
and they will price these at a certain point�in the process.in
order to know the costs. The colonial revival style has a few
more details. Again, the same style can be enhanced with
dorYmers, bays, etc.-: There is quite a height to the ufiits. There
are also some developments that have rooftop terraces as extra
space on a small site. -This is also going in ne� to other flat
� roofed liuildings.. Again, the designs can range from simple to �
more complicated.
. Mr. Saba asked _how , feasible: a flat roof is for snow in the; winter ,.� - .
� time . : , - . . �: �- .:: . _ t ; : . :
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:. Mr. Newman;�.stated.=_he had.built:some_o€.those_home-.and_;have::had e;:;,,,
some problems with.the;flat.roofs. But, most commercial �=--- "
buildings •.have flat roofs and they:-work. ��� :•_ �. v; ��.= r
�. Mr, .Hargans _, stated�.,they�.needed _:to- know what_ elements.. need, to;,be z� �
°� included � He ,�sked for�-.comments regardxng roof design:.� .:; z s� :�, �`
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> � ��Mr: Kondrick��stated�he�,thought people in�this._area�would prefer �" ��,� . :
.�.. -� '�"�`� colonial"4des�.gr�. He�3�.kes�the�idea'�'of� a�.look��suc2i�as�:Georgetown z �� °
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� , ApartYUents ;because:each unit�..is unique � :He liked,the��;ideay�-of a >-� �.
:� ., ; rooftop terrace: ��. �FS � �� , yk � � ��,����,/4�� � �,�. ��. � �
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q a+�' �+a y � s� '�.f�v��,. � t.., fi,.'_ �e . .z„y�s Y� ..te.ss- :. .cw`r 4 `�°'�
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���� ,> .Mr:` Oqu�.st.;stated `he}�'had y'reservati.ons _about- it x�'.�It alooks,�3.iice: :a��� 3� � . °
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�� ',`, tx-endy: thing. Y It:_is nice :tiie��first summer. The�second -summer `it ��5- ;
�� �-' -. = would not be used : as ,<.much -. :The third >year, �it is not ', as big. of
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deal and he thought the appea3 would�go-away. -
Mr. Sielaff stated he did not like the flat roof because it gives
the feel of an urban environment. He wants_to emphasize green
space and this does not go with green space.
Mr. Hargans stated he thought this'type of building could hold �
its own on a corner with other:-flat roof buildings in the area.
The area has to be transitional. This must be part of the urban
PLANNING COMMISSION ME$TING, OCTOBBR 5. 1994 PAGE 21
fabric and still work as housing. Is it going to detract by
being traditional? �This is a.busy intersection.
Mr. Kondrick stated a rooftop terrace has walls that can be
decorated and/or landscaped. The owners can plant trees. It is
like another space that is their own that others do not know is
there.
Mr. Oquist stated, if��you create another space an the roof with
depth, it then becomes 3 lj2 stories. Re is concerned about the
height. We want to create something to bring the height down-
with the appearance.
Mr. Newman stated the terrace creates a private space.
Mr. Carlson stated the flat roof buildings would have_a.;_lower
� profile. The other units are higher by the height of the roof.
Ms..Modiq�stated�-she li.ked the rooftop.terrace because if
- provides more green space. She is concerned that with a flat
roof the view of the Holly Center and the roofs of the houses
around it �w;ill .<not be_:�n ,' attractive view.. _;They would: not . be able
to see:the.Mississippi.:River- �. . - : - --
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�_� : x=`.Mr:-� Rondrick~��sked,^�iar�erms=-af-�=cost;-:�is��•��parch�-anore =expensive .=
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Mr:;;Hargans. stated=�the,�cost is `�about- the same. It ; is.;=hard :to
equate. You must decide how many of_those pieces you--can�:afford.
Mr: Oquist .~agreed �that -one would not be able =to see t'he : river
r���: ; _rfrom�ths.s�3o�ation.�::�.��he��`s.r:iuer.:is down:and-�there_�are�buildin s°.� '. `'
,, � ; between this,�� area and� the xiver. �_ y, ,x .��- _ g
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'�` ;, . ` :: �side. ���Tt �� is �more attractive ` to;: iiave �the , garage �at - ground levei . , _ . � '
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;'s `'- Mr��� Oquist ;�:stated���he �would preferjto-�see :the. garages along side .
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` to`bring the height;down but he was not sure if��this could be
, done and keep the density.
Mr. Hargans stated, with this density, by getting above there is
also a public space to look at. This brings up a good point
about the height. The area may need a mixture.
Mr. Oquist stated the garages and entries are symmetrical. The
garages are on the left and:the-entry on the right. He �.
PLANNING COMMI6SION MEBTING, OCTOBER 5, 1994 PAGE 22
recommended alternating the design to break it up. �
Mr. Newman stated he likes the garage's with individual doors. He
also preferred the.garage openings with the angled corners.
Ms. Modig stated, with the garages on the lower level, the floors
are colder in the upstairs unless there is good insulation.
Mr. Saba stated he also likes the individual doors with the
angles.
Mr. Carlson asked for conuaents about the materials.
Mr. Saba stated they had talked at the Zast meeting about some
kind of entry. If we could come up with something appealing, we
continue that theme with the housing. .-..
Mr. Hargans stated this is a good idea and they have talked about
requesting a developer to have.that as_.part of the system, but he
thought they should bring that next time.
Mr. Kondrick �felt the ::.more =::brick-:; there- is, :, the more others will :
1ike.it. Brick means.stability,-:warmth; class,�_etc.
Mr:° Hargans stated �brick:� also corresponds•Xto �-the �brick=~om-:�the = -'� _� - -
�f •: other buildings�in�the�area. � �� t :� �� z`p�� � � � ' x�
r 3 � +u y.t�' �+ ,t � ���i� '� ��. T '� � +�"�4
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Mr. Newman � thought � the. materials :rused-:would � depend , on- the �style ,
of architecture. .::; � ,;
2�ts. Dacy asked,.regarding the gauge of the aluminum siding,
should this be,an issue that we should give �larection to the :
x z developer. � �- Y �4ti � �,� < ��� � � �"�.3��,, r �
. -� �� .� - ,•'� �, F��r'���'�;�e��* '�`a� ..�S� xti��s,. `�.-�"�"'�'y�'i '� a;� f �s `iMa- -.
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�, � �' Mr. Newman � stated�*he �=siding�should �.�not�be�.va.nyl�whether,.�or�°not`�..� � �
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:� .. ` ` seamless i`s used. �A,.lot�..of��people�=�clon•t:�`ylike':steel:or��alumiriuin`: -�::.
siding. -. In 15 years; they want �a.t to: look �sharp. A�ain, that :
���� depends �on .the, architecture�and� `� �some�&tyles;�t �may�not� be,,����. � � _
� a ro riate �� � �� �N �� ��� st,�z��' ��'�'��. ���:� � .���� ��.��¢ �,: �
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Mr. Oquist asked if brick would,,{have a tendency to`make these
look massive � .:.:It is: a ::harder >::3.00k. � : `:You also `cannot change the �
color. Periodically,:owners-may want to change the color and'
appearance of the community. Brick cannot be changed.
Mr. Newman stated he did not know that stucco would fit either.
Mr. Hargans stated stucco now comes in colors and costs are
similar to brick. The homeowners'association usually has rules �
about painting and color. You can push a specific range or
performance level. He did-not-know how much individuality can be
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allowed.
Mr. Newman stated the siding needs to be a durable material. The
type depends on the architecture.
Mr. Kondrick stated he would like to see some brick in the
design. He also liked the concept of making the units look
individual.
Mr. Newman stated they could cio this using different shades of
brick.
Mr. Sielaff stated he would prefer to see natural materials
whether cedar or brick.
Mr. Hargans asked if the Commission saw this as a departure from
the current Fridley homes�. .
The Commission consensus was that this_-.should be different, _.
:_ unique and desirable.
Mr. Saba stated, because of the location, this needs something �.
that_wi13 draw people into that area._-
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Mr. �Newman stated; - in ;� �ooking at historX; -' the-� feeling s"is� that �we � _
want a>si ature develo ment, He is comfortable� do�.ng �s ere.� ;: ,, _
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Mr. Hargans ,,stated • signature- needs to : be, reflected > strongly. in ;;-- .�
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:lends r.itself to.rtaking a,basic =rectangle ;and;,attachingx�.a piece i:�
- here �. and "there. �� Even = though � each - unit is �the -� same; you could add :
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Mr. Newman stated he liked the different roof lines and the bay
windows. They need a deck or something for peopie to get
outside. He liked the roof lines broken up. He did not like the
rooftop terrace design or double garage doors.
Mr. Kondrick stated he liked the colonial revival design. He did
PLANNING COMMISSION MSETING OCTOBER 5 1994 PAGE`24
not like all those garage doors. He would like two larger doors
and would like that plan with the flat roof.
Mr. Oquist stated he preferred the coionial revival design. He
likes the low profile design. He cannot imagine windows co�aing
out. He would like to see the entries staggered and the garage
openings at an angle. He did not like the flat roof. The roof
adds to the height but he�did not know what else they could do.
Mr. Saba stated he also liked the colonial revival. The garages
could be dressed up. He liked the idea oi decorating the front
windows. There is a lot that could be done with that.
Ms. Modig stated she liked the idea of a rooftop terrace. She '
liked the colonial revival at the high end. One could have a
rooftop space and bay windows give a feel�ng of air and.:space.
She liked the garage doors but alternating them with the entries
so they are not so uniform. She does not like the idea of having
different materials and-colors. She did not think that�was
classy. _
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Ms. Dacy stated, from this meetings, she wouid summarize the
comments and bring them to the HRA and City Council.
Mr. Newman stated, on behalf of the Planning Commission, he would
like to complement everyone. This has been fun." We must be very
careful that the developer needs to'have flexibility in what they
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are going to do. They know the market. This Commission has -
given guidelines and has provided input. Staff will now talk to
the developer to see what they can do.and what we can afford.
The final plan may be much different, but it hopefully will
incorporate our ideas. _ .
Mr. Kondrick asked if the Planning Commission would have input
into the covenants or restrictions on the property.
Ms. Dacy stated that will be part of the review process when we
know who will be developing the property. Staff will be meeting
with the consultants. If we need to come back at the next
meeting to confirm, they will do sv.
Mr. Newman stated there is a divergence of opinion and they will
need to pick out what works. We need to provide direction and it
is now staff's task to pull out from out input. He ask�d, if
staff are going to bring this back, to bring it back in-October.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Si aff, to adjourn the
meeting.
IIPON . A VOICE „VOTE j ALL - QOTING ;A � .:;CHAIRPERSON' IQBWMAl�i�=. DECI�ARBD;; ��- r. � �., ;: .
THS MOTION ;.CARRISD.:AND. TH$ O 5,: 1994, PI�ANNING COMMISSION � ��`
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SUNIIKARY OF MEETING WITH DAVE RYAN, COLDWELL BANKER AND.BTLL PICRERING,
BURNETT REALTY
October 12, 1994
Impressions of the southwest quadrant from a realtor's perspective:
1. LOCATION
* Need to overcome history of site as a commercial corner
* Need to address appearance of apartments
* Need to create a residential settinq and tie in with
neighborhood to south
* Need to mitigate negative features like noise, appearance
of University Avenue from I-694 north to Mississippi
* Need to highlight positive features like convenience to
medical facilities, convenience shopping (Holly
Centerj, mass transit, and stable neighborhood to
the south
2. MARKET
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Strong demand for empty nesters
Market lacks townhomes in $90,000 to $120,000
$80,000 too low, $160,000 too high
2 br, 2 bath sells we�l, master bedroom on first
could work i� 2 story u�it
Price will be strongest attra��ion
More demand for townhome �iving.than recent years
S�ngie p�ofess�ona�.s may or�ly afford $84,, 000
range;
floor
; Senior .cor�dos not �.as at�ract�ve as rental uni�s <
Townhouse has better resale image than condo �
Fridley homeowners will be primary market, they are used
to one level living
The female tends ta drive the decision to buy
Storage areas important, no stairs between garaqe and
main :floor
Refer to Mp1s Home Builders questionnaire on �eatures
ATTACHMENT #2
PROPOSED REVIEW PROCESS
1. CONDUCT SIMULTANEOUS PROCESSES:
A. SOLICIT REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS
1) STAFF DISTRIBUTES IN SEPTEMBER
2) TOP CANDIDATES ARE SELECTED IN OCTOBER
3) TOP CANDIDATES RESPOND TO DESIGN CREITERIA
4) HRA SELECTS IN NOVEMBER
B. PREPARE DESIGN CRITERIA
1) STAFF PREPARES CRITERIA WITH PLANNER/ARCHITECT HELP
IN SEPTEMBER
2) PLANNiNG COMMISSION REVIEWS AND MAKES RECOMMENDATION
IN OCTOBER
2. CITY COUNCIL AND HRA REVIEWS BOTH iSSUES AT OCTOBER 24
CONFERENCE MEETING AND ENDORSES GUIDLINES AND SELECTS TWO
DEVELOPERS.
3. STAFF MEETS WITH� 5ELECTED DEVELOPERS TO FIND OUT MORE
INFORMATION AND TO REVIEW DEVELOPERS' REACTION TO DESIGN
GUIDELINES.
4. STAFF RECOZ�IENDS SELECTED DEVELOPER TO HRA AT NOWVEMBER 10,
1994 MEETING;': CITY COUNCIL 'TO ENDORSE AT ITS CONFERENCE
MEETING NOVEMBER'14, 1994.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTS NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IN DECEMBER
OR JAATUARY .
6. SIMULTANEOUS ACTIVITIES:
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A. HRA ACQUIRES REMAINING PARCELS, DEMOLISHES STUCTURES,
RELOCATES AFFECTED'CONIl��RCIAL/RESIDENTIAL TENANTS.
B. DEVELOPER PREPARES: - _
1) SITE PLANS, PLAT, BUILDING ELEVATIONS
2) FININACING PLAN
- 7. DETERMINE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TO BE
CONDUCTED BY PLANNING COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY.
8. DEVELOPER SUBMITS APPLICATIONS FOR PLANNING APPROVALS; HRA AND
CITY COORDINATE ANY OTHER APPROVALS BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND JUNE.
PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE CONDUCTED DURING THIS TIMEFRAME.
9. HRA APPROVES DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT; CONSTRUCTION BEGINS IN JUNE
OR JULY.
ATTACHMENT #3
D E S I G N G U I D E L I N E S
SDUTHWEST QUADRANT
CITY OF FRIDLEY
Prepared by McCombs Frank Roos
Associates, Inc. and
Clase & Associates
�ctober 20, 1994
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A. DESIGN GUIDELINE G�ALS F�R THE
SDUTHWEST QUADRANT/CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSI�N PRI�RITIES:
► Develop a design pattern of compatibility between
adjacent neighborhoods and with the character of the
City.
► Foster quality site design and architectural design,
detailing, and materials to promote initial sales and
lasting home values.
► Promote pedestrian circulation, and public and semi-
public spaces that foster neighborhood vitality and are
unlikely to become security concerns.
► Create a strong sense of neighborhood and a unique
image.
► Foster design flexibility between the Development Team
and the City.
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B. SITE PLAN:
PERFORMANCE GOALS & GUIDELINES
1. Buildinq Sitinq/DensitY:
► The site plan shall include; 76-100 dwelling units,
consisting tentatively of approximately 2/3 owner-
occupied two story dwelling units, with the remaining 1/3
being single level owner-occupied. All units will have,
at a minimum, one single stall attached garage. Target
markets are pre-retirement, and young professional
owners. (Residential structure footprints and
architectural design guidelines are provided by Close and
Associates.)
► An alternative site design will consider a 40 unit
three story age restricted seniors apartment located in
the northeast quadrant of the site with 60+ townhomes for
a total of 100 dwelling units.
► Additional alternative site design plans may
incorporate land currently occupied by the three to four
easterly apartment buildings fronting Satellite Lane.
► Thoughtful consideration shall be given to the
orientation of residential structures relative to
interior space and exterior negative influences; lights,
noise, views, etc.
2. Plan Rec�uirements:
► A public road right-of-way of 60 feet in width shall be
incorporated in the site as illustrated in the
Illustrative Concept Site Plans.
► Stormwater detention ponding will be incorporated
pursuant to City, Watershed and Best Management practices
(design of the stormwater pond and facilities shall be
prepared by a registered civil engineer and approved by
the City and other pertinent agencies).
► Appropriate sound attenuation design shall be
considered and incorporated in the site design and
dwelling unit design. A noise attenuation plan shall be
prepared by a competent acoustical engineer pursuant to
Federal and State standards.
► Site plans shall consider the effects of wind on noise
levels, snow accumulation and micro climate.
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3.
4.
Buf fers -
► Buffer strips shall be incorporated along Mississippi
and University. These strips will be no less than 35
feet in width to an optimal width of 45 feet. The buffer
strips will include a combination of undulating earthen
berms, dense landscaping, retaining walls, screen walls,
iron fencing, lighting and monument signs. The design of
the buffer strips shall be prepared by a registered
landscape architect, and are specifically intended to;
1.) define the edge of the residential development, 2.)
reinforce the sense of neighborhood, 3.) enhance a sense
of security and 4.) define carefully located visual
corridors into the development and from the development.
The purpose of the buffer strips is not to create a
continuous wall or barrier within which the residential
neighborhood is confined, but rather to create a well
designed and landscaped transition to ameliorate the
effects of adjoining heavily traveled roads, and night
lights predominantly west, north, and east of the site.
O�en Space •
► Establish strong sense of neighborhood through
architecture, landscape design and the incorporation of
open space for common and private use.
► To further augment a sense of neighborhood, north/south
and east/west landscaped lineal greenways shall be
incorporated in the site plan. These greenways shall
accommodate common walking paths and will extend from the
interior of the development to the intersection of
Mississippi and University, existing sidewalks, bus
shelter and landscaped entries to the subject
development.
► A high priority shall be placed on efforts to
incorporate open space between and around dwelling unit
clusters. Where single story buildings back up to single
story buildings, the minimum green space between
buildings should be 45 feet. This distance should be
increased to 60 feet between two story structures.
5. GradinQ•*
► Cross sections will be required to illustrate the
horizontal and vertical dimensions and design details.
A minimum of two sections will be provided, one along the
north/south axis and one along the east/west axis, each
section including Mississippi and University
respectively.
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• To the greatest extent possible, site grading shall
accentuate maximum grade change from the northeast to the
southwest corners.
► Similarly, in all open space areas, finished grading
shall undulate to create visual and spacial interest and
a sense of "movement" in the land form.
6. Setbacks-*
► No dwelling unit shall be closer than 25 feet to a
public right-of-way, 20 feet to a interior driveway/road;
the minimum sideyard spacing between principal structures
shall be 24 feet.
► With the exception of a parking stall in front of the
garage, no parking shall be closer to a dwelling unit
than 20 feet or 15 feet from an interior property line.
7. Parkinq•*
► A minimum of 2.5 parking spaces per dwelling unit will
be required with a minimum of 1 attached garage space per
dwelling unit.
8. Site Amenities:
► Entrance monuments will be required at the south and
north entrance, and at the northeast entry from the
intersection of Mississippi and University.
► Groupings of mailboxes shall be strategically located
and consist of a single architecturally integrated
design. '
► Thoughtful consideration will be given to the placement
of common use yard furnishings, sculptures, focal points
and gardens.
9. Finishes:*
► All driveways and parking surfaces will be bituminous
with poured in place concrete curbing.
► Pedestrian pathway surfaces shall be coordinated with
existing city walkway surfaces.
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10. Fire:
► A fire protection plan shall be prepared identifying
fire lanes, fire hydrants and emergency vehicle
accessibility pursuant to the city fire marshall and
matters of health, safety and welfare.
11. Snow Removal:
► A snow removal plan shall
how this potential problem
Homeowners Association.
12. Pedestrian BridQe:
be prepared as evidence of
will be dealt with by the
► Plan for the inclusion of a covered pedestrian bridge
across University Avenue and Mississippi, that would
connect the senior housing at the N. E. corner and utilize
the building elevator.
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C. LANDSCAPING:
PERFORMANCE GOALS & GUIDELINES:
1. Buffer-
► Create a strong buffer along Mississippi and University
Avenues with a combination of berming and a regular
rhythm of plantings that would include; evergreens,
deciduous overstory trees, clusters of flowering
ornamental trees, shrubs and ground covers. These
plantings and berm shall work in combination to partially
screen and achieve a sense of privacy for the
development.
► Minimum berm or screening height along Mississippi 5',
along University 8'.
► 50$ of the buffer and development entry plantings shall
exceed minimum size standards as follows: 3 1/2" cal.
deciduous overstory trees, 8' evergreens and 2" cal.
ornamental trees.*
► Buffer plantings to be in addition to planting
calculations per unit.*
2. Public/Semi-Public Spaces:
► Create a clearly defined public pedestrian circulation
system through a combination of walkways, landscaping and
lighting
► Semi public/backyard spaces shall be richly landscaped
providing for landscaped views and privacy by screening
or filtering direct views into other homes
► Special entry and foundation plantings, at a pedestrian
scale, shall create a sense of entry to the individual
units.
• Development entry plantings at the north and south
shall promote a strong neighborhood identity in
combination with monuments and signage.
► Plant a minimum of three trees per unit, in addition to
buffer plantings.*
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5.
FencincT, Walls and Entr4 Monuments:
► Fencing, walls and monuments, where used, shall be made
of the following materials: Tubular steel or wrought
iron; bricks, stucco or rock on walls or pillars; wood
fencing with decorative posts and rails top and bottom.
The design of each should be of a uniform character and
respond to architectural and landscape themes.
Signage•
► Signage shall meet all city codes
development, shall be uniform in nature
architectural and landscape themes.
Lighting•
for residentiai
and respond to
► A decorative lighting character shall be developed for
the entire project that works to unify the site and is
designed as part of the architectural and landscape
themes.
► Pedestrian scale lighting shall be provided in all
common open space areas and shall be designed to ensure
safe and secure use of the area while being aesthetically
compatible with the other site amenities and building
architecture.
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D. ARCHITECTURE:
PERFORMANCE GOALS � GUIDELiNES:
1. Building Stple:
► Provide a distinguished, visually interesting facade.
► References to existing typical residential Fridley
architectural style are not desired and colonial revival,
or a similar style with high pitched roofs and
distinguished bay windows and dormers would be preferred.
2. Material:
► Provide durable, solid, and maintenance-free exterior
material such as a high quality siding, brick or stucco.
► Material selection depends on building style.
- Costs: Stucco - $4,000/townhouse;
Brick - $5,000-$10,000/townhouse
3. Roofs•
► Roof system design shall be an integral part of the
building design. They are significant architectural
features that should be designed in conjunction with mass
and facade so that the building and its roof form a
consistent and interesting composition.
► Where possible provide rooftop space/terraces for
dining, sunbathing and gardening, while capturing scenic
views over Fridley and downtown Minneapolis.
- Costs: Rooftop Terrace - $12,000/townhouse
4. Ezterior Treatment Detached Buildin s:*
• Provide an individual identity to detached buildings
with different styles, materials and colors, where
appropriate.
5. Exterior Treatment/Attached Buildinqs:
• Reinforce attached building compatibility and
uniformity with similar style, materials, and colors.
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► Define individual building for ownership identity with
elements such as protruding fire walls or stepped
facades.
6. Driveways:*
► Provide distinguished paved areas that are visually
broken up with trees and green areas.
► Tinted concrete or unit pavers may be used to provide
visual interest.
- Cost: Tinted Concrete - 25� more than asphalt
7. Egterior Buildinq/Facade Treatment:
► Provide a visually interesting facade with
architectural features such as a large vertical bay
window dormer with gable roof.
- Cost: $5,000/each
8. Outdoor Livin_q Areas:
► Provide outdoor living areas for sitting, greeting,
socializing and enjoyment of views at building entries
and rear areas, i.e. patios, decks & screened porches.
- Cost: Single screened porch - $5,000/each
9. Window Design-
► Avoid monotonous, simplistic facades with a variety of
window configurations such as square, rectangular,
circular, vaulted, octagon/hexagon, bays or picture.
► Provide sound insulation from University and
Mississippi Avenue noise pollution with quality materials
such as triple-glazed windows.
- Costs: Triple glazed window - 20$ more than double-
glazed.
10_ Garages-
► Avoid lengths of visually and socially dead
garagescapes by providing first or second level porc2�es
or decks on each unit to break up garagescapes.
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► Use single garage doors, rather than double, where
architecturally compatible.
► Avoid public view of development garagescapes.
11. UnderQround Parking:
► Provide underground parking, where appropriate, with
under-building lots that do not use areas better suited
to open space and that minimize expanses of at grade
parking.
► Provide easy access to senior residences that are
covered and free of ice.
- Cost: Underground parking lot - $2,000/unit
12. Housinq Rec�ulations:*
► Accommodate current and future demand and growing legal
requirements, such as A.D.A., for elderly and handicapped
accessible housing.
► Provide a master bedroom on ground levels for
accessibility when possible.
► Provide handicapped accessible floor plans, doorways,
and door knobs on all single floor units and provide
blocking behind bathroom walls for future grab bar
installation.
- Cost: $900/unit
13. Buildinq Height:
► Townhouses at the south side of the quadrant should be
compatible with existing neighborhood building heights.
► Senior apartment height should be limited to 4 stories
at the N.E. corner of the site.
14. Flezibilit� with Private Market Demands:
► The Fridley Planning Commission understands that these
design guidelines will respond and adapt to market
demands. Development costs will be negotiated between
the Fridley H.R.A. and the developer.
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► Rough cost estimate of Fridley Planning Commission's
suggested solutions:
- Brick facade: $5,000-$10,000/townhouse
- Private rooftop terrace: $12,000/townhouse
- Screened porch: $5,000 each
- Large window dormer: $5,000 each
Suggested solutions total: $27,000 to $35,000
Plus $55,000 basic unit price =$90,000 to 595,000/unit
(* = Ideas and suggestions generated by staff and design consultants.)
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Community Development Department
HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
City of Fridley
DATE: October 20, 1994 �
TO: William Burns, Executive Director of the HRA,�A�
FROM:
SUBJECT:
Background
Barbara Dacy, Community Development Director ..
Review Options Regarding Apartments Along
Satellite Lane
At the joint City Council and Housing & Redevelopment Authority
meeting of August 22, 1994, the following information was
requested regarding the apartments along Satellite Lane:
1. It was suggested that rehabilitation options be evaluated
instead of acquiring and demolishing all of the four
apartment buildings along Satellite�Lane.
2. It was also�suggested to find out what developers would do
with or without the additional acreage.
In response to the first item, staff has developed five options
as a means for discussing the final determination of the
apartments along Satellite Lane. Secondly, we have verbally
spoken with interested developers about the additional�four
acres, and we have also solicited responses to the Request for
Qualifications (to be discussed later in the agenda).
Five Options
Although there are probably more options than the five staff is
suggesting for consideration, the five represent a continuum of
cost, risk, and control in redeveloping the area now occupied by
the four apartment buildings. A matrix has been developed to
define each of the options, identify the City's role, identify
strengths and weaknesses of each option, and to provide an
indication of the level of cost; risk, and control for each of
the options (Attachment �1j.
Assisting us in the development of this matrix were
representatives from Springsted, Inc., Publicorp, and Miller-
Schroeder Financial. Representatives from each of these
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October 20, 1994
Page 2
companies will be in attendance on Monday night to act as a
resource panel for the City Council and HRA. Each of them will
be speaking about various aspects of the matrix and their
experience.
Sid Inman from Publicorp was very involved in the Brooklyn Park
rehabilitation projects (Option #3). Cathy Aho from Springsted
is very familiar with essential function bonds and low income
housing tax credits which are options to be considered if the
apartment units are to remain (Option #4). Finally, Jay Jensen
from Miller-Schroeder Financial has experience in all of these
options and, as you know, has had significant public sector
experience in his former position as the Minneapolis Community
Development Agency Executive Director.
Developer Reaction
After the August joint meeting, I contacted Rottlund Homes and
Jim Winkels from Belaire Construction (two of the responders on
the RFQ process). Each of them indicated that addition of the
four acres would increase the project size to enable them to
construct additional units. Addition of the four acres may not
dictate a significant increase of unit value beyond $120,000;
however, the additional land area provides more site design
flexibility, permits a better connection to the existing
neighborhood, and eliminates a potential negative influence on
the new development.
Expected Outcome
A bulk of the meeting has been reserved to review the five
options and to provide an informal discussion between the City
Council, HRA, and the resource panel. It is hoped that the City
Council and the HRA can give direction to staff as to which
option should be pursued. Also attached are background memos
about the apartments, a parking space analysis, and the
comparison chart of redevelopment costs which was disaussed at
the August meeting (Attachments �2 and #6).
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MEMO TO: Director Sallman�
FROM: Deputy Director Lenzmeier��
DATE: Auqust 15, 1994
SUBJECT: Calls For Service Comparison,
Cherry Wood Apartments
Bill Burns requested that the Police Department provide him with a
comparison of calls for service from Cherry Wood Apartments.
Specifically he requested that we compare the calls for service
that were generated during the months of May, June and July of 1990
and compare it with calls for service for the same three month
period in 1994. In addition to providing that comparison we
selected another apartment complex that contained about the same
number of units which is generally felt generates few police calls.
That complex is 1200, 1230 and 1250 72n Ave. It contains 75 units
while Cherry Wood Apartments contains 76.
Below is a breal�down of the comparison. Note that the total calls
includes more then the totals of the other three columns. That is
because I only chose:three disturbance types of calls to highlight.
The total figure contains all calls, medical, thefts, found
property, etc.
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Community Development Department
PLANNING DIVISION
City of Fridley
June 30, 1994
William Burns, City Manager
Pat Wolfe, Section 8 Housing Coordinator
Satellite Lane Apartments
Barbara Dacy requested that I inform you of the conditions of
Cherrywood Apartments, 155, 175, and 195 Satellite Lane, and the
two apartment buildings east of Cherrywood Apartments.
I am very familiar with Cherrywood Apartments that are owned and
managed by Lang-Nelson Associates. The apartments are one and
two bedroom units. Over the years, there has been a considerable
decline in�these units and the on-site management. Lang-Nelson
appears to be reluctant to make improvements to the units and to
their quality of management. I have talked to most of the on-
site managers regarding upgrading the units. They have all .
complained about how difficult it is to rent apartments due to
the old appliances and carpeting and the lack of support from
Lang-Nelson concerning upgracting the apartments.
I have had several Section 8 clients move out of Cherrywood
complaining about building.upkeep and problems with loud parties.
Many have moved to River Road East Apartments where they receive
more amenities for their rent; for example, security building,
indoor pool, and stable on-site management.
I anticipate Cherrywood Apartments continuing to decline based on
the lack of upkeep and the building becoming outdated compared to
neighboring communities that are building newer complexes.
Cherrywood has lost good residents and replaced them with many
problem residents due to their lack of screening and due to the
older, outdated style of apartment complex.
I have not been in the two buildings east of Cherrywood
Apartments for several years. The conditions at that time were
poor due to the apartments being outdated and poorly maintained.
For at least six years, no Section 8 clients have requested
assistance in these two buildings. I am assuming this is due to
the availability of nicer apartment complexes.
If you have any further questions concerning these buildings,
please feel free to contact me at extension 597.
PW:ls
MEMO TO: WILLIAM W. BURNS, CRY MANAGER
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FROM: RICHARD H. LARSON, DEPUTY CHIEF �
DATE: JULY 1, 1994
SUBJECT: CHERRYWOOD APARTMENTS
As requested I have inspected the five apartment buildings on Sateliite Lane with the
following observations:
155-175-195 Sateilite Lane:
At the present I have no vutstanding violations for fire or housing code.
155 Satellite Lane:
The_ internal common areas for 155 Satellite have some floor tiles missing in the lower
level and no emergency lights in halls and stairway. The exterior trim is in need of
paint.
175 Satellite Lane:
The 175 building has carpet on the 2nd floor hall in need of repair, some small holes
in stairway wall front entrance and no emergency lights. The trim is in need of paint.
195 Satellite Lane:
The 195 building is in need of some screen repair, trim painting and there -are no
emergency lights . The roof also needs repair.
201 Satellite Lane:
The 201 building needs roof repair and the garage needs repairs (roof, garage doors).
221 Satellite Lane:
The 221 building needs repair of garage roof and door.
No major repairs were evident on this inspection. If I can provide any fiurther
assistance please contact me.
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CTTY dF FR�DLEY, MINNESOTA/ROTTLLTND P�OPOSAL
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ATTACHMENT #6
SWCOMP PREPARED BY CASSERLY MOLZAHN & ASSOCIATES, INC. 1T'-AUg-94
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Community Development Department
HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
City of Fridley
October 20, 1994
William Burns, Executive Director of the HRA �'I
Barbara.Dacy, Community Devel.opment Director _
Recommendation on Two Developers for the Southwest
Quadrant
Three developers/development teams responded to the Request for
Qualifications. They are:
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LeNel Financial Group, Inc., BeZair Builders, and
Bruggeman Companies
Rottlund Homes
Sherman Associates
Staff reviewed each response and evaluated them on developer
experience, financial capability, understanding of the Fridley
market, experience with the public sector, and overall
presentation. .
Jim Casserly is reviewing the responses as well as may not have a
recommendation until Monday. In order to present a unified
recommendation, the two candidate recommendations will be
announced Monday evening.
Copies of each response has been provided for each City Council
and Housing & Redevelopment Authority member.
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PL�NG D�SION
City of Fridley
DATE: October 21, 1993 �
TO: t�"William Burns, City Manager„j�
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SUBJECT:
Background
Barbara Dacy, Community Development Director
Ordinance Amendment to Require Gravel Driveways
to be Paved
The City Council. recently adopted an ordinance amendment which tied
the "behavior" of park:ing cars to parking on hardsurface'driveways.
During that discussion, the �City �Council directed staff to
investigate.an amortization ordinance whereby owners of properties
having a gravel or non-hardsurface driveway would be required to
pave the driveway by an established date.
Planning Commission Action
The Planning Commission discussed this-issue at its September 8,
1993 meeting and also the September 22, 1993 meeting. The Planning
Commission on a 3-2 vote recommended that the City Council pursue
an ordinance which would�require that all non-hardsurface driveways
become hardsurface driveways.
The Commission members who voted in favor of the ordinance
amendment agreed that it is important to require paved driveways.
They agreed with the eight purposes of a hard surface driveway as
proposed by staff (see attached). They also noted that other
first-ring suburbs have addressed this issue. Roseville has
recently required a five year amortization period for all owners
to pave driveways. The Commissioners voting against the proposal
were concerned about the financial impact on the property owners.
While only 15 of the 337 property owners who have gravel driveways
are considered "low income" (we checked the water billing records),
the average cost of a driveway improvement can range from $875 -
$1,250. Some households may not be able to afford the extra
expense (see attached cost chart). The Commissioners thought that
the money would be better spent on improvements to the home itself.
The Commissioners thought it would be better enforced through the
sale of a home or when a building permit is issued.
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October 21, 1993
Page 2
The Planning Commission also provided the following specific input
for the City Council to consider when developing the ordinance
amendment:
A. What materials should be considered acceptable in meeting the
hardsurface requirement?
The Planning Commission recommended concrete, bituminous, brick,
and concrete pavers (see article from newspaper regarding concrete
pavers) as acceptable materials.
B. How long should properties have to pave driveways?
The Planning Commission recommended that the driveway be paved when
one of the following instances occurs first:
* Five years from the adoption of the ordinance
* When the property is sold
* When a permit is required from the City
C. Should additional time be granted for property owners with
driveways in excess of 50 feet?
The Planning Commission recommended that it was not necessary to
establish a different time frame.
D. Should a hardsurface driveway to accessory structures in the
rear yard be required?
The Planning Commission recommended that the hardsurface
requirement not be imposed if the secondary/accessory structures
are used for storage facilities.
E. ShQUld there be some type of assessment process?
The Commission encourages the City Council to make the special
assessment process available to homeowners, and to make every
effort to include this improvement with other improvements in City
programs for rehabilitation or repair.
Staff Comments on Planning Commission Action
Part of the Planning Commission recommendation includes a provision
to require the driveway to be paved when the property is sold.
Staff is concerned about this option because there are
approximately 400 - 500 sales during a calendar year. An ordinance
similar to the "truth-in-sale" appr�ach would have to be developed
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October 21, 1993
Page 3
to require the driveway to be paved. Staff recommends that this
provision be included in a truth-in-sale ordinance if the City
Council and HRA choose to adopt one. This type of ordinance was
scheduled for consideration in 1994. Creating an ordinance solely
for paving the gravel driveway would be costly at this point if the
City were to pursue a broader approach pertaining to the house
itself in the near future.
Paving a driveway is an acceptable expense under all of the City's
current grant and loan programs. An additional allocation of funds
toward this particular project would have to be considered by the
HRA. Staff would recommend the HRA not allocate additional funds
for paving driveways. We believe there are other projects such as
multiple family rehabilitation programs which are higher in
priority.
Also, should the City Council decide to pursue the ordinance
amendment, we would like to schedule ordinance consideration
adoption for the first or second quarter of 1994 to enable us to
finish other ordinance processes (nuisance abatement and wetland
overlay).
City Attorney's Opinion
Also attached is an opinion from the City Attorney regarding
whether or not the cost for paving driveways can be assessed. The
Attorney states that the City does have the authority to contract
with homeowners for the installation of the hardsurface driveway
if it were to be determined in the ordinance that an unpaved
driveway constitutes a public health or safety hazard, is a
nuisance, or constitutes a hazardous condition.
Summarv
As evidenced by the close vote in t:�e Planning Commission motion,
there are mixed feelings about proceeding with this ordinance
amendment. Staff is ready to carry out and implement an ordinance
if it is decided that it is necessary; however, the implementation
of the ordinance will require a significant amount of effort,
including notification of the 337 property owners, conducting at
least two public hearings (one before the Planning Commission and
one before the City Council), arranging for special assessment of
properties who choose to be assessed, and inspection of the
properties five years from the adoption of the ordinance to insure
compliance.
Should the City Council choose not to proceed with an ordinance
amendment, staff will continue to enforce a policy which would
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October 21, 1993
Page 4
continue to allow the gravel driveway, however, cars must be parked
on the driveway area and not scattered across the lot. Further,
we will encourage homeowners to take advantage of the City's
asphalt contract. We will also continue to require that driveways
be hardsurfaced as part of special use permit, variance, or other
requests.
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RATIONALE FOR SARD3IIRFACE DRIVEAAYS
ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES
i. Promotes visual appeal and neat appearance of single-
family properties.
2. Restricts vehicles to one area of the lot instead of
allowing them to be scattered across the yard.
3. Eliminates the nuisance of gravel being sprayed on
neighboring yards and avoids unsightly ruts and ditches.
4. Eliminates problems created by blowing dust.
5. Protects soil from contamination due to oil and other vehicles
fluids.
6. 5erves to maintain and increase property values by promoting
a more attractive appearance.
7. Reduces maintenance costs incurred when ruts are "evened out"
or gravel is replaced.
8. Promotes parking requirements consistent with that of other
zoning districts.
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City Contract
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Cost for 45'*25' d/w
Cost for 70'*25' d/w
Concrete Contractor
Cost for 45'*25' d/w
Cost for 70'*25' d/w
Asphalt Contractor
Cost for 45'*25' d/w
Cost for 70'*25' d/w
COST IMPACT
Concrete
$18.00/sq. yd.
$2250.00
$3490.00
$29.25
$3656.25
$5674.50
Asphalt
$7.00/sq.yd.*
$875.00
$1385.00
$10.00/sq. yd.
$1250.00
$1940.00
* The City contract costs will vary from year to year depending on
the bid amount.
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DATE:
TO:
FROM:
SUBJECT:
Community Development Department
PL��I�TNING DIVISION
City of Fridley
September 2, 1993
��Steve Barg, Planning Assistant
Steve Steiner, Planning Intern
Actions Taken by Other First-Ring Suburbs on
Hard-Surface Parking
The City of Fridley is considering adopting an ordinance that would
require all property owners with unpaved driveways to pave them by
a set date, as yet undetermined. To see what other communities
have done about this issue, I called the following first-ring
suburbs:
Columbia Heights
Columbia Heights started the process in 1989. They ended up
requiring just two 9' by 20' paved pads (per single-family house,
evidently), or one paved pad per rental unit.
They are again thinking about requiring paved driveways, but will
give residents five years to conform. The city eouncil is
receptive to the idea, but must formally approve.
The main problem with unpaved drives has been washout into the
streets and storm sewers.
From 25-50% of the residences have unpaved drives or parking areas
(which includes garages).
CrYstal
The city council passed an ordinance requiring each resident to
pave his driveway, especially if the driveway is new. It is an
informal policy that those with an unpaved driveway may keep it so,
unless: .
1)
2)
They make a modification that requires a permit (anv
modification, any permit), or
There are documented cases of runoff or other problems.
Hardsurface Parking
September 2, 1993
Page 2
Washout was the main justification for requiring people to pave.
Some have complained, but no one has gone so far as to demand that
the council repeal the ordinance.
New Brighton
In 1988 New Brighton passed an ordinance to require all new or
modified driveways to have a hard surface (concrete or asphalt).
The ordinance is not retroactive. The main justifications for the
ordinance were dust and appearance.
Richfield �
The council recently passed a resolution that requires all new
driveways to be paved; however, existing unpaved driveways will
be permitted. The planning commission is looking at making the
resolution retroactive.
Richfield has only about 30 gravel driveways, so it is not so
pressing a problem as it is in Fridley. Richfield is having a
larger problem with people paving their whole front yards. They
are now concentrating on an ordinance to combat over-paving.
Robbinsdale
Robbinsdale requires materials that control dust (gravel counts--
grass does not). New driveways must be paved.
Roseville
The city council passed a five-year plan to get all owners to pave.
The public reaction has been generally positive because of the good
rates provided by the contractor, who is doing the streets at the
same time. The Roseville staff inember knew neither the number of
gravel driveways in Roseville nor the council's justification for
adopting the ordinance.
Saint Louis Park
Parking areas intended for three or more cars must be paved. The
main problems with unpaved driveways are dust and washout onto
public streets.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMSER 22, 1993 PAGL 4
3. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 9, 1993, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive .the
September 9, 1993, Human Resources Commission minutes. /��
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEAM2�CN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED. %
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4. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 14, 1993,,APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES�
MOTION by Ms. Savag�ec�d by Ms. Modig, to receive the
September 14, 199�ppeals Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOILsE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEWM�N DECLARED THE
MOTI }�i�CARRIED .
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5. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Tabled: Amortization of Gravel Driveways
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to remove this item
from the table.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DSCLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Dacy stated that at the last meeting, the Coinmission
discussed this subject and asked staff to research four or
five areas. Staff now has the results of� that research.
Staff would like the Commission to continue discussion on this
issue to see if the Commission is prepared to make a
recommendation to the City Council.
l. Assessment - The Commission wanted to know that if
the City adopted an ordinance that required gravel
� driveways to be paved, could the City do the work -
� and assess the costs back to the property owners,
the advantage being that the costs would be spread
out over time, and the owners would not have to pay
all the costs immediately.
Ms. Dacy stated the Commission members had received
by mail a copy of the City Attorney's response to
this issue. In his memo, Mr. Herrick said it is
possible if, when the City adopts the ordinance, it
finds a gravel driveway to be either a safety
hazard, nuisance, or a hazardous condition. Mr.
Herrick listed under a variety of statutes how the
City could assess the property owners in terms of
how many payments and what percentage rate. This
is good news in terms of the property owners who
might.be affected by this ordinance.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. SEPTEMBER 22. 1993 PAGE 5
2. Income information for the 350 properties that would
be affected
Ms. Dacy�stated that Ms. McPherson worked with the
Finance Department and determined that 15 out of
the 350 households who have gravel driveways are
eligible for the low income utility rate program.
3. Drivewav definition, what constitutes a hard surface
drivewav?
Ms. Dacy stated Mr. Barg called Columbia Heights,
Crystal, and Roseville. These cities are very
definitive. Concrete or asphalt are the only
acceptable materials allowed by those cities. In
the City of Fridley's code, it is defined as
"concrete, blacktop, or other hard surface material
approved by the City".
�4. Financial assistance -
Ms. Dacy stated she has not had an opportunity to
discuss this directly with the HRA, but�she did
discuss this with Grant Fernelius, the Housing
Coordinator. If a person who owned a gravel
driveway applied for one of the HRA-sponsored grants
or loans, paving the driveway would be an eligible
expense under the program. The assessment option
proposed by the City Attorney also helps the
financial burden. The HRA would have to deeide how
to expend.monies on this particular project. Staff
identified two options:
a. The HRA could choose only to assist th�
low income seniors (15 families) and pay
for all the costs;�or
b. If there is the question of fairness, the
HRA could develop a policy that paid for
a portion of the costs for all the
property owners.
The estimated price tag for the first option is
$20,000. If they assist everyone, the cost would
be about $75,000.
Ms. Dacy stated that it would be difficult for staff
to recommend that the HRA pay that amount of money
when they are scrounging for dollars to do other
things that may have more of a public purpose than
paving driveways.
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PLANNING COMMI88ION MEETING. BEPTEMBER 22, 1993 PAGB 6
Ms. Dacy stated there are two important questions the
Commission must address:
1. Does the Commission want to pursue an ordinance
amendment which would require property owners
without hard surface parking areas to provide paved
driveways?
2. If the answer to the above question is "yes", the
following issues should be addressed:
a.
�
c.
What materials should be considered acceptable
in meeting the hard surface requirement?
How long should property owners have to pave
driveways?
Should additional time be granted for property
owners with driveways in excess of 50 feet?
Mr. Newman stated staff has done a very good job in addressing
the issues. Now the Commission has to address the first
question: Do they want to have an ordinance that would
require people with gravel driveways to hard surface those
driveways?
Mr. Saba stated he liked the idea of requiring gravel
driveways to be hard surfaced, but the definition of "hard
surface" should be broadened somewhat. However, he would not
want to require people to have hard surface driveways to
accessory structures in the rear yard that are used for
storage only and not for vehicle use_
Mr. Oguist stated he has mixed emotions. He is in favor of
hard surface driveways, but he is against the hardship that
it will put on some people. The Commission really needs to
take that into consideration. Staff has determined that there
are about 15 low income property owners who would be affected,
but there are other people who are not necessarily low income
who are living on the edge and are going to be affected as
well. To force them to pay an average of $1,000 for a hard
surface driveway could be a real hardship.
Mr. Oguist stated he believed they need to first define "hard
surface". Brick and concrete pavers can look much better than
asphalt.
Ms. Modig stated that the eight reasons for hard surface
driveways prepared by staff are very good, but she also has
a problem with the cost they will be forcing people to pay
for these driveways. There are a lot ot people who are not
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. SEPTEMBER 22, 1993 PAGE 7
low income who are on the edge and another $1,000 is a lot of
money. She did not know if the City has the right to dictate
this kind of thing. It might be better to enforce the hard
surface driveway requirement at the time of sale or when the
property changes hands. She is not sure what to recommend.
Ms. Savage stated she believed it is a good idea to require
gravel driveways to be hard surfaced. When you live in a
community, you have to conform to a lot of requirements for
the general betterment of the community. She understood the
concerns expressed by the other Commission members and the
financial burden on the property owners, and the City should
do anything it can to help ease that burden. One way is
through some type of assistance. It is a fairly minimal
amount of people in terms of the total population of Fridley.
She alsa has no problem in giving people time to put in hard
surface driveways, but she did think it is a good plan and is
for the betterment of the City.
Mr. Newman stated he is concerned about the fi.nancial impact
on the property owners and also concerned that_the $1,000
might better� be used to enhance their properties in other
ways. He could not help thinking that if they had a room full
of property owners asking why the Commission was recommending
an ordinance that would force them to blacktop their driveways
and why the Commission feels this is an appropriate
expenditure of $1,000, he would have a hard time justifying
that. In some cases, that $1,000 could better be used to
replace a new roof or put on a fresh coat of paint. Even
though the hard surface driveways would have some aesthetic
benefit, he would oppose an ordinance for the reasons he has
stated. .
Ms. Modig stated it is rather unfair when this is not new
construction. Many of these people have been living in their
homes for many years without hard surface driveways, and many
of them purchased these homes without hard surface driveways.
She is not so concerned about the low income property owners,
because they can get assistance through various programs. She
is concerned about the people who do not meet the criteria for
low income but are close to low income and the City is telling
them they have a certain amount of time to conform to an
ordinance that is basically visual. She would rather see this
hard surface requirement handled through the sale of the home
or when a building permit is issued.
Mr. Newman stated he was not sure if the City Attorney's memo
addressed some type of assessment plan where property owners
could pay for an improvement through an easy installment plan.
Staff might want to explore this as it might be another avenue
for those people who want to put in hard surface driveways.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MSETING. SEPTEMBER 22, 1993 PAG$ 8
Mr. Saba stated that the City sends out letters every year to
those property owners who do not have hard surface driveways
Ietting them know of the rates if they want to hard surface
their driveways during City street projects. Maybe, this
should be publicized more and promoted a little heavier.
Maybe the City could follow up on these letters with a
telephone call.
Mr. Oquist stated there are some people who just do not care
whether their driveway is hard surface or not. �
Ms. Dacy stated that is true, but staff could certainly
advertise a little more.
Mr. Newman asked the Commission if they wanted to recommend
to City Council an ordinance amendment requiring property
owners without hard surface parking areas to provide paved
driveways.
MOTION by Ms. Savage, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to recommend to
City Council that the City retroactively require that all non-
hard surface driveways become hard surface driveways.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, NEWMAN AND MODIG VOTING NAY, CHAIRPERSON
NEWMAN DECLARED.THE MOTION CARRIED �Y A VOTE OF 3-2.
Mr. Newman stated the Commission must now address the other
questions. They should also include the question raised by
Mr. Saba about whether or not to require a hard surface
driveway to accessory structures in the rear yard and the
issue of some type of assessment process.
a. What materials should be considered acceptable in meeting
the hard surface requirement?
Mr. Oquist stated he believed the acceptable materials for
hard surface should be cement, asphalt, brick, or concrete
pavers.
The Commission members agreed that the acceptable hard surface
materials should be limited to cement, asphalt, brick, and
concrete pavers.
b. How long should property owners have to pave driveways?
Mr. Saba suggested a requirement where a hard surface driveway
must be installed whenever the house is sold or the title
transfers.
Ms . Dacy stated the problem with the on-sale issue is it would
mean another inspection requirement that staff would have to
try to track, and there are 400-500 sales per year.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 22, 1993 PAGg 9
Ms. Dacy stated staff is going to be evaluating a truth-in-
sale ordinance, and they could add a requirement for hard
surface driveway at that time.
Mr. Newman suggested that the City take the current ordinance
which requires a hard surface driveway and file it against the
350 properties. Then, when the property owner sells his/her
home, the buyer is going to know he/she has to conform to the
ordinance and that a hard surface driveway is required. That
will ensure, in some respects, an automatic enforcement, and
the City can do the followup. It will be a lot cheaper than
an inspection. .
Ms. Dacy stated that the problem is that each filing costs
about $20 which would mean about $6,000 which is not in the
budget.
Mr. Newman stated the City might have some problems with
amortization if subsequent buyers are not made aware of the
hard surface requirement. He stated that $20 per fiiing or
approximately $6,000 might be nothing compared to the cost of
legal fees five years from now to enforce any amortization.
Mr. Oquist stated the hard surface requirement is already in
the ordinance. He suggested the hard surface requirement be
contingent upon the foilowing requirements, whichever comes
first:
(1) a time period such as fiye years
{2) the sale of the property
(3) when a permit is requested from the City such as a
building permit or special use permit
c. Should additional time be qranted for property owners
with driveways in excess of 50 feet?
Mr. Oquist stated the whole idea is to clean up pz-operties,
so he would say "no" to this question.
d. Should a ha�rd surface driveway to accessory structures
in the rear yard be required?
Mr. Saba stated he would not want to see this requirement for
accessory structures that are used for storage.
Mr. Oquist stated that if a hard surface driveway to an
accessory structure in the rear yard is required, it can be
handled with a stipulation on the special use permit.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SBPTEMBER 22 1993 PAGE 10
e. Should there be some type of assessment process?
Mr. Saba stated the City should make every effort to contact
these property owners and encourage them to take advantage of
the City's contractors for installing hard surface driveways.
Mr. Oquist stated he believed there should be some type of
assistance, not only for low income property owners, but also
some type of assessment process where property owners can be
assessed for the cost and pay it over a�longer period of time.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Saba, to summarize the
consensus of the Planning Commission regarding the hard
surface driveway requirement as follows:
a. Ahat materials should be considered acceptable i.n
meeting the hard surface requirement?
Concrete, bituminous, brick, concrete pavers
b. How long should property owners have to pave
driveways?
Whichever comes first:
• Five years from the adoption of an ordinance;
• When the property is sold;
• When a permit is required from the City
c. Should additional time be granted for property
owners with driveways in excess of 50 feet?
No _
d. Should a hard surface driveway to accessory
structures in the rear yard be required?
The City will exclude from this ordinance any
secondary storage facilities that are not used for
vehicular storage.
e. Should there be some type of assessment process?
The Commission encourages the City Council to make
use of the special assessment process for payment
of this improvement and to make every effort to
include this improvement with other improvements in
City programs for rehabilitation or repair.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 22, 1993 PAGE 11
Mr. Newman stated he will vote against the motior� because of
the costs, not the least of which would be iegal fees, in
trying to enforce the hard surface driveway requirement.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, NEWMAN AND MODIG VOTING
NAY, CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE
OF 3-2.
ADJOURNMENT: -
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig,�to adjourn the meeting.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chair-person Newman declared the
motion carried and the September��� 1993, Planning Commission
meeting adjourned at 8:55 p.m.�
Respectfully sub�itte�
Saba
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u .'' SEP 17 '93 14�02 BARNA GUZY & STEFFENGER
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BER,NNtDE. S7'EFFEN
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DARRELL A J£NS£N
)EFYREY S. JOHNSOAl
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JOl�i P. ERICK5dN
LAWRF�.tCE R.IOH�ISON
SaP.ViD A. COSSI
THOMAS P. MAIAh1E
MiCIiAEL F HURLEY
VIRCiIi. C. E�TRICf:
HERt��AN L- T.�.[.J..E
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FROM:
RE:
DATE:
Barna, Guzy� & Sreffen, L�d.
ATPDRNEYS AT LAR!
400 Norchtown Financial Plaza
200 Coon Rapids Soulc-vard
Mint�eapolis, MN 55q�33
(6i2) ?80-8500 �A.x (6iz� 7sai777
Wri�er's Direat L3ne: (612) 783-5I24
1'�IEMORAN DUM
Steve Barg, P3.�nning Assistant
C�tty of Fridley
VirgiZ H�rrick
�ridZey City Attprney
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PA1r4E'LA M. HARRiS
CHARY.ES�l.SEYICORA
WILLIAM M. i�I/WSEN
DANlEL L1(?Aldi'ETt.Jtt.
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DAVID M. W£IGE(.
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1935-1993
Assessing for H��d Surface Parking Impraveme�lts in
Res'identia7. 1�reas
Sep�e�tber 17, 1993
Th�s memarandum is in r��panse to your memorandum, da�ed
September �6, 1993, regarding the abc��cre subject. In your
memarandum yau indicate that the chair�an of the P�.anning
Cammi.ssion inquired as tio whether the city cou�.d �c�ntract with
hom.eawners �ox� drive�way improvements and assess the cost over a
period of years.
The general rul� fc�r the.expenditure af pubiic monies is that the
ExpEnditn�e must be for a public purpose. Likewise, the rule for
speci�I �ssessments is tha�� the praject must he �ax � public
purpose. Minn. Stat. g 4z9.p21, gives �he municipaZity autharity
to m�ke �ertain enumera�ed Ymprovements. Sectian �29_«021(8)
giv�s the municipalit� autharity to a�b�t�`<nuxs�r�ces... :Qn : pub].ic ,.
or private`property,}�.t..;, Also, under Section 429.101, the aity
has autharity `to r��tave' ,or Eliminate public health .:or : safety. ,,
.-:. .Nwn+. A'�K.c. '• .
. . .:..._� �
hazarcis fr�m private proper�y. Gen�ral2y, special assessmen�
proj�Cts are for work that are on public �ight of w�ay'� however,
thYe�e are some exceptions ta this rule. Far instance, specia3.'
assessmtents far' cutting weeds, ar r�moving�='disea"sed-i`trees;"' or "°
for-unpaid�°`sewer and water .bills. . _ >
Minn. Stat. §;46�:151-pertains ta hazardous buildings and
h�.zardaus canditions of real estate. This section p�ov�,des as
PolZows:
The governinq body of any city or town may remove or
raze any haxardous builcling or remove vr cor�ect any
hazardous candition oP real estate upon abtaining the
cansent in writing of al� owriers of r�cord, occupyiriq
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- �SEF 17 '93 14��3 BARNA GUZY & STEF'FENGER
Page 2
S�pti��ttlaE;x J.7, 1993
tenants, and aIl lien holders of record; the cost shall
be charged against the real estate as provided in
Sectian 463.2]., except the governing body may provide
�hat the cost_so assessed may be paid in nat to exce�d
f ive equal.._annual insta].lments �.with interest ; thereon, >
at eiqYit �iercent-= per "annum: :�.. ,. �. . .W.., . . .. . . . . , ..
P . :�
In Yny opinion� : the city_: would have au�hdrlty::to ;;contrac� �ta�ith the:
,;.� � . ��, �» .. . �
ha�aeowners � for `"the� ��nst�llatiori �� o� 't2i� hard�"'surface : driveway, ` ;�.rtd ��
authority �o finance' the work by" special.'' assessment iF=��it'�-were :-ta��>
..,., . .
determine ,: one -�:of- =the :<f ollawin _ .. . r .,,. .. : . : . . : - � . . ., .
g .,. _. �:_. .
1. Th�.t a non-hard surface drX�reway canstitutes a� public
health�or�saPety hazard �(authority under 429.101);
2.
3.
That a non-hard surface driveway isf�a,;nuisance
{aezthority' urider 429.021(8); and "�'"`°`� '���" .Y�''-
That a nan-surface driveway,,constitutes=:a b:axardotrs `'`
�� . _.;_ ;- . . �.;;..:.
eandi��.ari ` (authority `under ;:�463.;�.57.) ;. ,`
I also call your attention ta Minn. Stat. §
435.195. These statutes �ttthorize the muni
special''assessmQntS;:against�`senior c'itizens
�'The deferral 'can be m�,de if �the prap�rty is
seniar citizen ar disabZed,g��son,,and.can°;;
as th�� p�rsori':owns- the`_.rea3 _ estate �" �he;,d
�withaut accumulated � interest : �- � " � ��"
If the aitg
ordinances
failure ta
4�5.193 through
ipa 1 i �y �a�;�de;fe:
�.nued �as `v lorig �'
- cari _be _ ti�iith ar -
�.s to adopt this type r�f proqram, thE city's
shauld be amended. The ordinance should state that
install a hard surf�ce driveway is:
I. - A s�fety hazard, or
2.
3.
A nuisance, or
A hazardous canditian.
The ordinanee should �hen pravide that after a specified date,
�hat it is i�legal to maintain a driv�way that does not have a
hard surface. Depending vn which of the state's statutes is used
fo� aut�iarity, the city could prviceed to assess the cost of the
improvement. Minn. Stat. §�63.151, specifiCa].ly pravides that
this can be dane anly 'with th� consent of the hameowner. Yt
wot��d be my suggestion that this poliGy' be failowed regardless of
the source of authority for the assessment procedure. Yt should
alsa be noted that depending on which of the statejs statutes are
used as auth�rxty, the maximum term of the special assessment
�rc�ri�s fram iive years to 30 years.
Z hope that this answers the inquiry. If yau have further
questians, please cantact me.
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TO: WILLIAM W. BURNS, CITY MANAGER ���
FROM: RICHARD D. PRIBYL, FINANCE DIRECTOR
SUBJECT: FEE INCREASES
DATE: October 21, 1993
Attached are copies of a worksheet that originated from Publicorp's workpapers. I have
summarized on the attached pages the fees that should be increased in the near future.
As you will recall, these fees have gone through two reviews; as part of the original study,
the Department Managers reviewed and made recommendations and the final review you
and I had with each Department Manager.
I have provided the attachment that identifies the proposed increases in fees. For each fee
it identifies the existing fee, the fee recommended through the study, and also the fee that
staff is recommending for approval. You will also notice in the nght hand margin that
there are a number of fees that will need separate legislation or further review. The fees
associated with these items will go to Council as the new or revised legislation is drafted.
The legislation for all Chapter 11 fee increases can be accomplished in a short tune frame.
All the items identified as administrative could be invoked with your concurrence.
Staff is currently assembling the information for the Amusement Center License and the
Coin Operated Device License.
The Community Development Deparhnent, as this letter is being written, is reviewing the
new UBC to determine the appropriate increases for each of the building code sections.
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PL�vivrNG DrviSION
City of Fridley
DATE: October 21, 1993
To: �William Burns, City Manager ���.
FROM:
SUBJECT:
HISTORY
Barbara Dacy, Community Development Director
Michele McPherson, Planning Assistant
Adoption of O-4, Wetland Overlay Ordinance
In 1991, the Minnesota legislature passed the Wetland Conservation
Act. The purpose of the Act was to protect wetlands which were not
regulated by the'Arm�r Corps of E�igineers or the• Department of
Natural Resources (please see attachment entitled "Wetland
Players"). The goal of the legislation was to have no net loss of
wetlands. During the 1993 legislative session, minor chanqes were
made to the law and its administrative rules. Local government
units are required to adopt the penaanent program and an ordinance
by January l, 1994.
WETLAND STUDY
The City hired a consul.tant to prepare an inventory of all wetlands
to determine the impact of the new law on Fridley. The proposal
submitted by Westwood Engineering and Peterson Consulting was
chosen from four submitted proposals.
A detailed description vf each wetland was included as part of the
inventory. The wetlands were delineated using the Circular 39
document developed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the
Army Corps of Engineers, as well as the Cowardin classification
system. The administrative rules require use of the Cowardin
classification system for determining replacement wetlands. Fifty
nine wetlands were identified within the City (please see
attachment entitled "Wetland Analysis Summary"). Of the 59
wetlands,.36 are located in the Rice Creek Watershed District, 23
are located within the Six Cities Watershed Management
Organization. For those 23 wetlands located in the Six Cities
Watershed area, the City as the designated "local government unit"
will be required to administer the Act.
Adoption of O-4, Wetland Overlay Ordinance
October 21, 1993
Page 2
LOCAL ORDINANCE ADOPTION
Purpose
The purpose of adopting the O-4 wetland overlay ordinance is four-
fold:
1. To comply with the requirements of the Wetland Conservation
Act.
2. To clearly designate on the zoning map the location of
regulated wetlands.
3. To clearly define the responsibilities of both the petitioner
and the City regarding administration of the Act.
4. To define the process for development within and around
wetlands.
Components
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Prior to developing a property which contains a wetland, a series
of questions must be asked to determine which components of the
Act, if any, is to be enforced. A flow chart describing the
actions in response to the questions is attached. If the wetland
will not be altered or affected in any way, the development can
occur as permitted by the zoning regulations. Only if the wetland �
is affected will the Act be enforced.
Seguencinq �
Once it has been determined that the wetland will be affected, the
Act requires a petitioner to demonstrate that he has followed the
sequencing guidelines of the Act and that he cannot: i) avoid; 2)
minimize; 3} rectify; 4) reduce; or 5) replace the impact to the
wetland. This documentation is entitled "Sequencing". Replacement
of a wetland is the last option a petitioner may pursue.
Replacement Plans
The Act defines the components of a replacement plan. The Act
specifically requires land use inventories, descriptions of the
altered wetland, the replacement wetland, and contains caiculations
to determine replacement ratios. The calculations in the Act may
require that the replacement ratio may be as high as 5:1. The
minimum replacement ratio required by the Act is 2:1.
Adoption of O-4, Wetland Overlay Ordinance
October 21, 1993
Page 3
Technical Evaluation Panel
The Act establishes a Technical Evaluation Panel which is composed
of the local government unit engineer, a Soil and Water
Conservation District officer, and a member of the Board of Water
and Soil Resources. The Technical Evaluation Panel may be used to
deteratine wetland type, size, public value, and location. The
Technical Evaluation Panel may also review replacement plans
submitted by petitioners. If the City develops a wetland
management plan, the Technical Evaluation Panel may approve such
plans which then eliminates the Technical Evaluation Panel from the
wetland process.
Maps
The consultant is preparing maps of each wetland and a City-wide
map. Unfortunately, they will not be ready for Monday's meeting.
We will, however, bring key examples.
ADOPTION PROCESS
Staff has developed a proposed process to comply with the 1991
Wetland Conservation Act. Staff recommends that the City Council
concur with the following activities:
l. Prepare•the O-4 wetland overlay ordinance with the sequencing
and replacement plan requirements from the Wetland
Conservation Act.
2. Concurrently, inform the Board of Water and Soil Resources,
the ,Rice Creek Watershed District, and the Six Cities
Watershed Management organization of the results of the study
submitted by Westwood and Peterson, and have them agree that
the wetlands identified in the study are those wetlands which
the City will regulate under the Act.
3. Submit the draft ordinance for discussion to the Environmental
Quality and Energy Commission and Planning Commission on
November 16 and November 17, 1993, respectively.
4. Conduct a public hearing of the ordinance at the Planning
Commission on December 8, 1993.
5. Establish and conduct public hearings and approve the
ordinance by the�City Counci2 in January and February, 1994.
6. During the first half of 1994, submit the ordinance and the
study to the Technical Evaluation Panel for approval.
s '
WETLAND PLAY8R8
* Federal:
Army Corps of Engineers - Section 404 of the Clean
Water Act
Nationwide and Individual
Permits
* State:
Department of Natural Resources - Type 3, 4, & 5
Wetlands
1991 Wetland Conservation Act
* Regional:
Rice Creek Watershed District
Six Cities Watershed Management Organization
* Local:
Local Ordinances where applicable
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WETLAND ANALYSIS BIIMMARY
Total Number of Wetland Basins = 59
47 basins were identified on the National Wetland Inventory
map of 1982.
20 basins originally identified on the National Wetland
Inventory map of 1982 no longer exist in the field.
21 basins < 21,780 square feet.
3 basins < 4,356 square feet.
* These basins, if filled, would not need to meet the
sequencing requirements of the 1991 Wetland Conservation Act.
However, fills > 400 square feet would still require a
replacement plan.
36 basins are located in the Rice Creek Watershed District.
23 basins are located in the Six Cities Watershed District.
There are 9 Department of Natural Resources Protected waters,
wetlands, or watercourses in the City of Fridley:
Farr Lake
Harris Pond
Locke Lake
Moore Lake
Spring Lake
Springbrook Wetland
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MEMORANDUM
TO: William W. Burns, City Manager ��
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FROM: John G. Flora, Public Works D'uector
DATE: October 11, 1993
SUBJECT: MSAS Streets
PW93-390
Within our current designated MSAS system, we have identified a total of 8 segments for
which we are requesting variances. This includes a variance for Matterhorn Drive, which
is a concrete street 28 feet wide versus the 32 foot requirement, and seven right-of-way
variances from 60 to 50 feet. We propose to submit these for the winter variance
committee meeting to identify what is approved and what follow-up actions would be
required.
Within the designated streets, we have identified two projects which require overlays and
these can be added into our 1994 program.
Two streets, 68th and Alden Way, are of insufficientwidth. Two years ago we had proposed
to reconstruct these streets but the residents would not support a petition. Accordingly, I
would e�ect that neighborhood support to rebuild the streets at this time is not present.
We have not received MN/DOT approval for the Riverview Terrace link. I would hope that
we would obtain approval this year and then possibly address this street as a 1995 project
with an attempt to construct it to the proper elevation to serve as a barrier to the
Mississippi flood event.
Accordingly, we do not have any major MSAS conshvction noted for 1994. We have
identified about 11/z miles of City streets that are in need of reconstruction and may be
considered by City Council:
Hickory Drive, Hackman Circle, Haclanan Avenue, Tennison.
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October 11, 1993
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These streets would amount to approximately $300,000 and could be accomplished from our
street maintenance funds if the Council so directs. Since the cost of concrete curb is going
up, I would suggest that for 1994, if the streets are to be reconstructed with concrete curb
and gutter and we determine to establish a maximum cost, we address $9 as the maximum
for concrete curb and gutter on these residential streets.
Kerry Lane is a concrete street and has experienced considerable deterioration because of
the poor soil conditions and the slope that it is constructed on. I would expect to address
Kerry Lane in conjunction with a review of concrete streets that we are completing this year
for a separate concrete street maintenance project
Based upon this information, request Council direction on if a 1994 street reconstruction
program is to be initiated, and if so, what streets and what funding would be appropriate
for planning purposes. This information is necessary early on so that we may obta.in survey
data this fall.
JGF:cz
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MEMORANDUM
TO: John G. Flora, Public Works Director PW93-381
FROM: Scott Erickson, Asst Public Works Directora�
DATE: October 7, 1993
SUBJECT: Status of State Aid Streets/City Streets Requiring Reconstruction
We have evaluated the status of the Municipal State Aid street system and have generated
the attaehed list of streets that require design modifications and a list of segments that
require variances. The design modi�cations are typically u►idening the street to a 32-fooY
width. Additional modifications or variances may be required for vertical and horizontal
curves on some of these sections. We would have to evaluate these after the streets are
surveyed. The variances mostly pertain to the existing right-of-way being less than the
required 60 feet We will submit these at the ne� variance meeting.
We have also attached a list of City streets which are in need of reconstruction. If Council
would like to begin reconstruction of City streets, the attached list would be the
recommended place to start.
Please advise as to which streets should be surveyed for the 1994 street reconstruction
program.
SE:cz
Attachment
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October 8, 1993
Page 2
STATE AID STREETS THAT REQUIRE DESICN MODIFICATIONS
1. 68th Monroe to Brookview �den to f�om 30 ft to 32 ft
Install concrete curb & gutter
2. 69th Central to Stinson Overlay
3. 75th Bacon to Lakeside Existing 31 ft width
Existing, concrete curb & gutter
4. 77th Way ERR to Burl N Railroad Mill/Overlay
5. Alden Way 500' N of 75th to 79th Widen to from 30 to 32 ft
� Install concrete curb & gutter
6. Matterhom 53rd to Hillwind Existing concrete street
Widen from 28 ft to 32 ft
7. 79th Way Riverview Terrace to Alden Way Widen to 32 ft
� Install concrete curb & gutter
8. Riverview Terrace 79th Way to lGmball St �den to 32 ft
Install concrete curb & gutter
9. tGmball Street Riverview Terrace to ERR �den to 32 ft
Exist. concrete curb & gutter
10. Stinson Blvd 73rd to Osborne Widen #0 32 ft or 36 ft
Install concrete curb & gutter
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STATE AID STREETS THAT REQUIRE VARIANCES
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CtTY STREETS THAT RE(�UIRE RECONSTRUCTfON (Top 5)
Reconstruction
1. Hickory Drive
2. Hackman Circle
3. Hackman Avenue
4. Tennison
5. Kerry Lane (concrete)
Overlavs
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2. Ashton Ave � �
3. Hwy 65 E Service Rd
4. Northco Dr
5. Lake Point Dr
6. Lake Point Dr
Miil/Overlay
1. 69th
2. East Service Road
3. 61 st
4. 61 st
70th to East River Road
Hathaway to Tennison
From Gardena south
Rice Creek Rd to Ben Moore
Cul-de-sac to the end
N of Ely to Ironton
' 73rd to 72nd
University E Serv ice Dr to 73rd
South loop
North loop
Old Central to Stinson
Mississippi to 61 st
Main Street to W Moore Lake Dr
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MEMORANDUM
TO: William W. Burns, City Manager �'°
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FROM: John G. F1ora,�Public Works Director
DATE: October 20, 1993
SUBJECT: Rice Creek Road Pond
PW93-407
Associated with the 64th Avenue storm water assessment project is the construction of a
detention pond on the City owned properties off of Rice Creek Road. It is proposed to
construct a pond of approximately 1-acre of storage which will more than serve the
anticipated flows from the area north of Mississippi Stree� This volume of water is defined
as a third of an acre. The pond will provide us additional storage to deal with the surface
water from the area as well as flows from Harris Pond.
The pond is proposed to be constructed in the rear of the first two lots of Rice Creek Road.
The pond would be approximately 2 ft deep with sloping sides surrounded by a 10 ft buffer
of the existing vegetation in the area.
There has been some concem about the number of trees that would have to be removed
associated with this pond construction. In an investigation of the pond area, we have
identified approximately 77 trees in excess of 6 in. in diameter. These are all scrub type
cottonwoods, willows and aspens that have developed in this wet area. The 10 ft buffer
around the pond, as well as the front of the property, still retains over 130 trees in excess
of 6-in. in diameter. These trees would serve to screen the pond as well as d'uninish the
impact of the pond construction.
An option is to.place the detention pond on the front of the two lots. This reduces the use
of the existing ditch (wetland) in the pond area as well as eliminating any use or
development of these two lots. There are about 53 trees in this area that would have to be
removed.
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As this work will require the Recreation Commission concurrence and the Rice Creek
Watershed District's approval, we propose to remove this from the 64th storm water project
phase II and advertise this pond as a separate project when all approvals have been
received.
Request the Council consider the Rice Creek Road pond location so that specific plans can
be prepared and processed.
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MEMORANDUM
Wiliam W. Burns, City Manager
John G. F1ora, �rublic
October 22, 1993
Works Director
SUBJECT: TCAAP Interconnect Line
PW93-413
We have received a letter from Barr Engineering, representing New Brighton, that they
propose to defer placement of the final wear course on the TCAAP interconnection streets.
I also have some concern about the ability of Kenko to complete the final wear and the
conditions of the final wear based upon an adverse temperature condition. Accordingly, I
have written a letter to Kenko informing them of the New Brighton position and indicating
our support to delay placement of the final wear course on the TCAAP streets until the
spring of 1994. It is understood that every effort will be made to complete all other aspects
of the project. Unless you disagree, I will be sending a letter to Kenko indicating this
position.
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E�tgrr�eering CompanV
s3D0 Nomtan Center Drive
Minne�polis, MN5�437-1026
Phone: (67�}832-�600
Faa: {'61?j 835-Di86
Mr. John Flar�
Birector of Public Works
City of F'ridl�y
543� Un�versity Avenue NE
�'ridl�y, MN 55432-4383
October 22, 1993
R�; ��W gr�.ghtoniFridley' Interconnection
Dear �ohll: �
New' �righton has informed me that they would favor deferri�ig placernent of
the wearing couz's�� on Z9th Avenue and 16th Str�et until Spring, assuming that
Kenko wa.11 approv�� af this scheduling as well. New Brightan does not believe
T{enko w'ould b� entitled to ex��a paym�nt for the delay. If Kenko intendS to
cla�.;n otherwise, t3ew Brightan wi11 recons�aer their posi�ion. I think that, if
the wear Cou�Se is installed this fall, the likelihaod af warranty repaixs is
m�ch higher and Kenko will probdbly agrEe to del�,y the v�+ork.
By iax copy c�f this le�ter, this preference will �e eommunicated to MSA �nd
Kenko. qn �`rida'�, October 22, 1993, t3ew Br.ighton ervisor�soW heyl an���n
Constructian obs��rvers and th� itenka on-$ite g�P
ac�ordingix.
I� yau h�vE any tiUestions, pl�ase call me at 832-2814. If iron adjustment
or other work has proceeded prior to this letter, please call to diSCUSe project
status.
DEP /ktptl •
c: Les Proper, New Brighton
Fax: Anthony Bi<<ncani, Kenko
Paul Boettc.'her, MSA
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sincerely,
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Dennis E . paljner , P • � '
Vice President
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October 25, 1993
Kenko, Inc.
Mr. Tony Bianconi
1694 91 st Ave N E
Minneapolis, MN 55449
Subject: New Brighton/Fridley Interconnect Waterline, Project No. 248
Dear Mr. Bianconi:
PW93-237
I have received a letter from Barr Engir�eering, representing the City of New Brighton, indicating
their desire to defer placement of the wear course on the New Brighton streets associated with
the TCAAP interconnect waterline project.
I also have some concerns regarding the ability of Kenko to complete the total project within
the timeframe established and the on-coming winter season.
The cities of Fridley and New Brighton would not object to defer the final wear course on the
streets associated with the TCAAP interconnect line until the spring of 1994. It is understood
a base course of asphalt would be provided on a!! the streets and the boulevards and driveway
approaches would all be completed. We also believe that any cost associated with raising the
iron in the street would be a savings to Kenko as related to any possible failures that could
occur by attempting to complete the wear course this winter.
It is also understood that, depending upon the conditions in the next month, it may be possible
to properly complete the total project, but only time will tell.
Request your concurrence with this proposal. If you have any questions, please call me at 572-
3550.
Sincerely yours,
John G. Flora
Director of Public Works
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FRIDLEY
MEMORANDUM
Municipai Center
6431 University Avenue N.E. Office of the City Manager
Fridley, MN 55432 William W. Burns
(612) 571-3450
TO: The Honorable Mayor and City Council
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FROM: William W. Burns, City Manager ��'
DATE: October 21, 1993
SUBJECT: Citizen Survey
The one remaining issue with respect to the citizen survey is whether or not we
are going to do a telephone or mail survey.
If we conduct a telephone survey, we would use a sample of 500 randomly
selected citizens throughout the fourteen survey districts. We have been able to
define the fourteen survey districts that were included in the last survey on the
GIS system. Each household within each district has been identified, and we are
able to use the information in the random selection process.
If we conduct a mail survey, we would use a sample of approximately 3,000
randomly selected citizens from the voter registration list. With a mail survey,
there would also be a sub-sample of 400 randomly selected citizens who would
receive up to three call backs if they had not returned the survey within a certain
period of time.
Obviously, the telephone survey is probably more statistically valid. On the other
hand, the mail survey would undoubtedly have a more favorable public relations
impact. Both surveys will cost approximately the same amount of money.
I would also like to add that we are also planning to do customer surveys. For
example, I know Barbara Dacy is preparing customer surveys for building
inspection customers, Section 8 housing clientele, land use action customers,
and housing rehabilitation customers. I expect that similar customer surveys will
be prepared and distributed in other departments.
Thank you once again for considering the citizen survey issue.
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