02/05/2001 - 00008883THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL
OF FEBRUARY 5, 2001
The Regular Meeting of the Fridley City Council was called to order by Mayor Lund at
7:30 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Mayor Lund led the Council and audience in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Lund, Councilmember Barnette, Councilmember Wolfe,
and Councilmember Bolkcom
MEMBERS ABSENT: Councilmember Billings
PROCLAMATIONS:
Steve Novak A�preciation Day: February 5, 2001
Mayor Lund stated that Steve Novak's dedication and hard work has enhanced the quality of life
in the City of Fridley, and he proclaimed February 5, 2001, to be Steve Novak Appreciation Day.
Steve Novak was unable to be present.
LEGISLATIVE UPDATE
Senator pon Betzold stated that the legislature started on January 3 and is expected to go to
May 21, the constitutional deadline. This is the budget year which will be the main issue. The
Governor submitted significant changes in the budget, especially in the tax area. Senator Betzold
said that he will be the new Chair of the Sales and Income Tax Committee and will oversee some
policies in that area. The Governor wants to e�tend the sales tax and lower the rate. In the
process, part of the surplus will be used to lower income tax rates and do some shifting to take
education off of the property tax to reduce that tax. Some issues to come up this year are
whether or not to allow grocery stores to sell wine, DWI threshold of .08 blood alcohol
concentration, PERA shortfall, and racial profiling. Senator Betzold invited the citizens of
Fridley to contact himself, Senator Chaudhary, or Representative Goodwin with any concerns.
Representative Barb Goodwin stated that she is on the Education Policy and Education Finance
Committees. She said the committee is responding to constituents that are unhappy with the
Governor's budget. If the budget passes as the Governor has it now, Fridley and Columbia
Heights may be in serious trouble. The cities are already in financial trouble, and this budget
will make it worse. Higher health care, heating, and special education needs, and they will be
affected. Some deductions may be rearranged ne�t month but do not look to be more beneficial.
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Representative Goodwin urged people to contact the Governor's office to voice opinions over
these significant reductions in the things people care most about. The budget surplus is a one-
time deal, but the tax reduction would be permanent with permanent cuts in education, health
care and so forth. She said she and Senator Chaudhary will be holding a meeting at the Anoka
County Library on February 17 at 10:00 a.m. to hear questions or comments on the budget or
other issues. Representative Goodwin asked people to call her at 651-296-4331 at the State
Capital with questions. She said her address is: 353 State Office Building, St. Paul, MN 55155.
Her e-mail address is rep.barb.goodwino,house.leg.state.mn.us.
Councilmember Barnette asked Representative Goodwin if she saw a general agreement over the
general budget.
Representative Goodwin stated that she thought both democrats and republicans were against the
K-12 budget. She said that the higher education budget was an issue as well.
Senator Betzold stated that the Governor's proposal is quite heavy into tax cuts.
Councilmember Barnette asked if there was anything being mentioned about vouchers.
Senator Betzold stated that there was not. He said that issue failed a few years ago on a strong
bi-partisan basis under Governor Carlson. The local sales tax is eliminated in the Governor's
budget as of today.
Senator Chaudhary stated that the legislature is having joint meetings between the Crime and
Human Services Divisions to deal with mental health problems that affect all of us in the way of
juvenile crime. To help schools with the rising heating costs, a heating cost ordinance bill was
proposed, and it passed through the Senate today. Senator Chaudhary said he is chair of a
subcommittee on education technology. That committee will deal with affordable school
computers, computer based learning, letter based learning, digital divide, non-computer related
issues, biotechnology, technology in the arts, and our vision for their future.
Senator Chaudhry said that he has been appointed to the Transportation Budget Division and is
Vice-Chair of the Transportation Policy Committee, which will deal with the Highway 65 and
commuter rail issues. The Northstar Corridor Joint Powers Authority has posed $60,000,000 in
bonding and $30,000,000 in cash. The Governor proposes $115,000,000 in bond total. Active
discussions with the Department of Transportation have taken place regarding the commuter rail
station in Fridley at 61st Avenue and Main Street.
Senator Chaudhary said DWI enforcement is very important to him, (and he has been working on
different ways to enforce that. He urged people to call him at 651-296-4334 at his office or visit
his website at �v�v�v.chaudharv.org.
Mayor Lund thanked the legislators for attending the meeting and giving their updates.
FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 5, 2001 PAGE 3
APPROVAL OF PROPOSED CONSENT AGENDA:
MOTION by Councilmember Barnette to approve the proposed consent agenda. Seconded by
Councilmember Wolfe.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
City Council Meetin� of January 22, 2001
APPROVED.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF
JANUARY 17, 2001:
RECEIVED THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF
JANUARY 17, 2001.
2. PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUEST, PS #00-03, BY DAVID LOPEZ, TO CREATE
TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 35 - 62ND WAY
(WARD 3):
Mr. Burns, City Manager, stated that the petitioner is the owner, David Lopez. He
proposed to split his property at 35 - 62"d Way into two lots. Each lot would meet the
City's lot size and width requirements. The request was approved by the Planning
Commission at their meeting of January 17 with eight stipulations. Staff recommended
Council's approval.
APPROVED PS #00-03 WITH THE FOLLOWING: 1) PETITIONER SHALL
OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY PERMITS PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION; 2)
PETITIONER SHALL REMOVE EXISTING GARAGE FROM PROPOSED LOT
1 PRIOR TO APPLYING TO THE CITY FOR FINAL PLAT APPROVAL; 3)
PETITIONER SHALL CONSTRUCT A HARD SURFACE DRIVE AND CODE
REQUIRED DOUBLE CAR GARAGE ON PROPOSED LOT 2, BY NOVEMBER
1, 2001. FURTHERMORE, PETITIONER SHALL SUBMIT A PERFORMANCE
BOND TO THE CITY OF FRIDLEY IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,000 TO ENSURE
CONSTRUCTION OF DRIVEWAY AND GARAGE; 4) GRADING AND
DRAINAGE PLAN TO BE APPROVED BY CITY'S ENGINEERING STAFF
PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY BUILDING PERMITS, IN ORDER TO
MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES; 5) DURING
CONSTRUCTION ON PROPOSED LOT 1, SILT FENCING SHALL BE USED
WHERE APPLICABLE; 6) PETITIONER TO PAY $1,500 PARK DEDICATION
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FEE PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT FOR PROPOSED LOT 1;
7) PETITIONER TO PAY ALL WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEES;
AND 8) THE PETITIONER SHALL AGREE TO PRESERVE MATURE TREES
TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. ALL TREES REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED
FOR THE NEW HOME SHALL BE MARKED AND APPROVED BY CITY
STAFF PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS.
3. APPROVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FRIDLEY AND
BURLINGTON NORTHERN AND SANTA FE RAILWAY COMPANY FOR THE
REPLACEMENT OF THE TIMBER RAILWAY CROSSING AT 77TH AVENUE
N.E. (WARD 3):
Mr. Burns, City Manager, stated that the agreement would have the City paying thirty
percent (30%) of the costs associated with the replacement of the timber railroad crossing
on 77th Avenue. This amounts to $28,800. The work will be completed by BNSF during
the 2001 construction season. Staff recommended Council's approval.
APPROVED AGREEMENT.
4. MOTION TO SUPPORT APPLICATION FOR 2001-2002 COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR THE FRIDLEY YOUTH
RECREATION SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM:
Mr. Burns, City Manager, stated that the application is to Anoka County for $7,500. The
funds would be used to provide fee waivers or partial fee waivers to youth from low and
moderate income families. The fee waivers would apply to the costs for trips and
activities sponsored by the Fridley Recreation Department for elementary and middle
school age youth. Staff expects that the money will benefit about 130 youth in 70
households. Staff recommended Council's approval.
APPROVED MOTION.
5. MOTION TO SUPPORT APPLICATION FOR 2001-2002 COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR THE FRIDLEY SENIOR
COMPANION PROGRAM:
Mr. Burns, City Manager, stated that this is a joint application with the City of Coon
Rapids for a total of $11,433. The money would fund the Senior Companions program in
both communities. This program is one where low income seniors assist other low
income seniors. The companions make home visits, take them grocery shopping, take
them on other outings, assist in getting them to doctor's appointments and in general,
serve as a source of social support. Currently, there are five companions who serve
seventeen home-bound seniors. The Fridley portion of the grant, $6,422, would help to
cover the cost of our Senior Companion Coordinator, Nancy Shaw. It would also be used
to cover a small stipend, mileage costs and meals for the companions. Staff
recommended Council's approval.
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APPROVED MOTION.
6. APPROVE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FRIDLEY AND
GOVERNMENT AND ENTERPRISE SERVICES FOR FUNDING FOR
HIGHWAY 65 IMPROVEMENTS BETWEEN I-694 AND 63RD AVENUE N.E:
Mr. Burns, City Manager, stated that staffwas proposing to enter into a contract with Phil
Cohen and his associates for assistance in acquiring funding for a proposed Highway 65
improvement �project. The project would provide for widening of Highway 65 between
I-694 and 63r Avenue. Most of the work would be done on the causeway that crosses
Moore Lake. Mr. Cohen and his group would assist the City in acquiring the $7,000,000
that is needed for this project from both federal and state sources. In exchange for his
services, the City would pay Mr. Cohen the sum of $3,000 a month for a period of twelve
months. Staff recommended Council's approval.
APPROVED CONTRACT.
7. APPOINTMENT:
Mr. Burns, City Manager, stated that staff recommended the appointment of Scott Hickok
as Acting Community Development Director at an annual salary of $72,349.20. The
appointment is effective January 10 and will remain in effect until a Community
Development Director is appointed. Staff recommended Council's approval.
APPOINTED SCOTT HICKOK AS ACTING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTOR.
8. CLAIMS:
APPROVED PAYMENT OF CLAIM NOS. 97817 THROUGH 98042.
9. LICENSES:
APPROVED ALL LICENSES AS SUBMITTED AND AS ON FILE WITH THE
LICENSE CLERK.
11. ESTIMATES:
Frederic W. Knaak, Esq.
Holstad and Knaak, P.L.C.
1690 Minnesota World Trade Center
30 East Seventh Street
St. Paul, MN 55101
Services Rendered as City Attorney for the
Month of January, 2001 $ 5,000.00
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No persons in the audience spoke regarding the consent agenda items.
MOTION by Councilmember Billings to approve the consent agenda items. Seconded by
Councilmember Bolkcom. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Lund declared the motion
carried unanimously.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Councilmember Bolkcom to adopt the agenda as submitted. Seconded by
Councilmember Wolfe.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
OPEN FORUM,VISITORS:
Mr. Dennis Johnson, 6336 Starlite Boulevard, asked if the City Council is keeping the affected
neighborhoods of the commuter rail station completely informed and up-to-date on the process.
Mayor Lund stated that the residents are getting all the information that Council is getting.
Mr. Johnson stated that at the neighborhood meeting on January 18 the question was asked if
anyone had heard a response from the Northstar Corridor about the City Council resolution
rejecting the 61st Avenue and 61st Way site for the commuter station. He said the answer given
then by Councilmembers was that there was no new information. The following week a letter
was received from the City of Fridley dated December 14, 2000 signed by Scott Hickok It was
the official response from the Northstar Corridor regarding the City of Fridley's proposal.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that the letter was received after the meeting.
Mr. Johnson stated that the residents would like to work together with proper planning.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that Council will continue to work with the residents. The
environmental study is not due out until June.
Mayor Lund stated that Council is aware of how important this issue is to the neighborhood. He
said that Council will try hard to keep everybody informed.
PUBLIC HEARING:
11. ORDINANCE RECODIFYING THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE CHAPTER 205,
ENTITLED "ZONING," BY ADDING A NEW SECTION 205.XX, 0-5
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RESIDENTIAL LOTS CREATED PRIOR TO 1955 DISTRICT REGULATIONS
(ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, ZTA #00-04 BY THE CITY OF FRIDLEY):
MOTION by Councilmember Bolkcom to open the public hearing. Seconded by
Councilmember Barnette.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED AT 8:11 P.M.
Mr. Bolin, Planner, stated that the 0-5, Overlay District, is needed to encourage investment in
some of Fridley's older neighborhoods. There are a number of lots in Fridley that are non-
conforming. As a result, there is not a lot of incentive to invest in the homes. Staff is improving
the e�sting housing stock by removing this status and providing a few possible in-fill
opportunities along the way. This lot pertains to be created and recorded at Anoka County prior
to December 29, 1955. This excludes lots combined or split since this time. This will not create
new lots. The lots need to be between 5,000 and 7,499 square feet in size and have a minimum
lot width of 50 feet. There are appro�mately 2001ots according to the GIS system that meet the
size requirements outside of the Hyde Park addition. The data shows that city-wide there are
only 8 vacant lots that meet the size requirements; 126 of these non-conforming lots with homes
on them are located in the Riverview Heights area. Only one lot in that neighborhood is vacant,
and that lot is joined by commercial property. The owner of the business would like to keep that
strip as a buffer between the residential neighborhood and himself. That is the only vacant lot
that could possibly be developed in the Riverview Heights neighborhood. Staff is working with
the GIS department to conduct further work to narrow down the exact number of properties that
meet this criteria.
Mr. Bolin stated that Hyde Park was excluded because the residents had concerns in the past
with substandard lot sizes. In 1976, a neighborhood task force proposed and the City Council
adopted the S-1, Hyde Park District. In Hyde Park at that time, the neighbors chose a 60-foot lot
and maintained the 7,500 square foot minimum lot size. That enabled the majority of homes in
that neighborhood to become conforming in size. The 0-5 standards were modeled on the Hyde
Park District and combined with portions of e�sting R-1 Single Family District. There needs to
be a 25-foot front and rear yard setback with a 15 foot rear yard setback for an attached garage.
A 768 square foot minimum home size and a 30-foot height restriction is required. These
standards would apply to new construction on vacant lots and also to e�sting homes on the
current non-conforming lots. The opponents have been focusing on the possibility of vacant lots
developing. At the most, there are 8 sites in the City. Staff has heard that twenty to thirty years
from now, new houses on the lots would look run down just like e�sting homes in these
neighborhoods. The housing market is different than forty to eighty years ago and construction
of a new home is very expensive and represents an investment that the owner should maintain.
These lots are smaller in size, but the same sideyard setbacks apply, so in the R-1 district it is
possible to have garages that are 10 feet apart. The homes will not be any closer than what
currently e�sts. Staff has seen ramblers on 75 foot wide lots get wider and wider every year as
garages are added.
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Mr. Bolin stated that these lots are 100 to 110 feet deep with the same depth as every other house
in the neighborhood. Staff has seen many site plans which show that it is practical to place a
reasonably sized home and garage on these lots. St. Louis Park and Richfield have had great
success with their programs. This encourages reinvestment by preventing homes on these
currently non-conforming lots from becoming a lost investment. Three cases in the last four
years have had homes on these smaller lots burn to the ground and the residents have not been
able to rebuild because their lots are non-conforming. Adoption of the overlay district would
have allowed these three homes in question to rebuild on their site. Without this protection,
people have a hard time justifying maintaining their own home and investing in it. It provides
housing options and gives the City, HRA, and the residents more flexibility in developing and
rehabilitating housing. It is hard for people on these non-conforming lots to obtain grant funding
or any funding to reinvest and remodel their homes. This does not increase the density in any
way because City Code does not allow the subdivision of larger lots to be in a series of 5,000
square foot lots. The January 17 Planning Commission meeting public hearing was held and the
commission recommended approval of the creation of the 0-5 Overlay District. Staff
recommended holding the first reading.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that if someone has a 100-foot lot, they would not be able to
divide it in this ordinance and build another home.
Mr. Bolin stated that was correct. The lot would have had to have to have been split prior to
December 29, 1955.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that this is the way to change the ordinance to protect those
people on those 50-foot lots. In the Riverview Heights area, there is a flood plain, and people
may consider putting up homes in that area with this ordinance.
Mr. Bolin stated that the one lot identified by GIS in the Riverview Hieghts area not in a flood
plain. That is the house across from the gas station.
Mayor Lund asked if there was opposition to the Hyde Park District created in 1976.
Mr. Bolin stated the 60-foot lots reflected what e�sted for the residential lots in that district.
Mr. Pete Eisenzimmer, 6535 Oakley Drive, stated that there is one big lot on Mississippi Street
that the City owns. He said he just purchased a 120-foot lot. He asked if it would stay the way it
is if he split that lot up to make two 60-foot lots.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that was why she asked the question she did. She said Council
would not allow someone to come in and split up a lot that is bigger than that.
Mayor Lund stated that it would have to be platted prior to 1955.
Mr. Allan Stahlberg, 8055 Riverview Terrace, stated that he does not know how it could be that
there is only one lot in Riverview Terrace that could be built on.
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Councilmember Bolkcom stated that the Ely Street lot is probably a 45-foot lot. She said
Council could check on that.
Mr. Bolin stated that there are some that are two 25-foot lots that have never been combined.
They are stuck as two 25-foot lots. If they are combined now it is creating a lot after 1955.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that he did it four times. He lives on two 30-foot lots and two 25-foot lots.
Mr. Bolin stated that he is over the 7,500 square foot minimum.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that the lots that are 25-foot lots cannot now be combined and
have a house built on them. They have to be created prior to 1955. The best thing may be for
those addresses in question to be called in for investigation before the ne�t meeting of the
ordinance.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that he would have to have a map because those vacant lots do not have an
address.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that they could check the Cook property on Able Street.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that the other one is on Fairmont Street east of the address of 690 Fairmont.
Mayor Lund asked Mr. Stahlberg what his opposition was.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that he thought the houses would be squeezed onto the lots. At the Planning
Commission, they were talking about 3001ots available but now there are not that many.
Mr. Bolin stated that he believes there are 200.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that there are e�sting homes on almost every one of those lots.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that eliminates part of his arguments. He is afraid that Council will change
their mind. This whole idea could be covered with one grandfather clause. If there is a house on
these lots now, you can rebuild on it.
Mayor Lund stated that he is not against the fact that the people with houses already there can
reinvest in their homes and be able to rebuild. He said he was only against adding onto the
vacant lots.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that his neighbor bought the lot ne�t door after it became a vacant lot. He
said he thought people wanted bigger lots. He said that is what created value in the
neighborhood.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that she disagreed and she did not think that a bigger lot created
a higher value. She said people are buying small lots all over the City for huge prices.
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Mr. Stahlberg stated that there are only small lots left. Somewhere down the road, the City is
going to stick the 25-foot lots together and say that they are a 50-foot lot. There will be runoff
problems, higher density, more police, fire, sanitation, sewer, water consumption, school
districts, and so forth.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that this ordinance does not allow someone to tear down a
whole block of houses and then divide them into 50 foot lots. The majority of the homes are
already e�sting on 50 foot lots.
Mr. Stahlberg said he was talking about all the vacant lots available that the City says do not
e�st. The 75-foot requirement has been in e�stence since 1955.
Mayor Lund stated that these are the lots created prior to 1955.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that it is only a rule.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that this would have to go through the same process to change
the ordinance.
Mr. Knaak, City Attorney, stated that was correct.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that the City is changing the ordinance to a 75-foot frontage ordinance now.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that Council was only allowing people that have 50 foot lots to
improve their homes and to be able to rebuild in case the home has been destroyed.
Mr. Knaak stated that the grandfather clause creates an arbitrary distinction between current
owners of properties that have houses on them and owners of identical lots that do not. You can
get equal protection, and you have to treat all lots equally.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that a house with a foundation is different than a vacant lot.
Mr. Knaak stated that it is not to the person who owns the vacant lot.
Mr. Stahlberg asked who owned the vacant lots.
Mr. Knaak stated that he did not know, but it would take just one owner to make the argument,
and they would succeed.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that they are not all tax forfeit.
Mr. Knaak stated that this is the law. If you are going to craft an ordinance like that, that is what
you have to do.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that there are a lot of grandfather clauses out there.
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Mr. Knaak stated that there are not really that many clauses. He said they really do not e�st, but
there are certain provisions that exist.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that in Columbia Heights people can remodel if there is one standing wall.
Mr. Knaak stated that there are different ways of dealing with destruction of property. Cities
have made efforts to try to allow people to rebuild. The other policy at stake that Mr. Stahlberg
is arguing for is that if the City is persistent you will end up with a bigger lot average. If the
policy says that you want owners to reconstruct or build, you have to come up with a different
solution.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that he does not think that the ordinance would be legal.
Mr. Knaak stated that the City of Lake Elmo had 25 foot lots and people had lost their homes and
had not been able to rebuild. That was litigated up to the court of Appeals and the City won
because that is an allowed policy for a City to follow.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that the City could change it and say that if you had anything e�sting, you
could remodel.
Mr. Knaak stated that Council has full authority to change its ordinances as it is doing now.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that is his point.
Mayor Lund asked who raised this issue
Mr. Bolin stated that the start of it was from when houses had burned to the ground on these
properties. Staff researched this topic and inquired about what other cities have done. There are
a lot of 40-foot lots around the metropolitan area, staff felt that a 50-foot lot would be more
appropriate for Fridley. It matches what e�sts in these neighborhoods.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that people actually came in to get permits to remodel their
homes on these non-conforming lots and then questioned whether to put their money into their
home.
Mr. Stahlberg asked what the City intends to do with the Cook property if it is on a smaller lot.
Mr. Burns stated that the City would either hold it until the adjoining property owner buys it or
possibly buy the adjoining property.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that is a Housing and Redevelopment Authority property and is
part of the City's scattered site acquisition. Lots do not always combine. Staff will need to do
more research for the ne�t meeting. The Cook property is a 40 to 45 foot lot.
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Mr. Stahlberg stated that it is hard to get people to buy a lot if they know that the lot is
unbuildable for privacy without paying the taxes. There are some interior lots on Buffalo or
Dover Streets that have been for sale for a while. He assumed they are buildable lots.
Mayor Lund stated that he liked the idea of the grandfather clause but unfortunately that is not
possible.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that she did not understand how this was different than the
grandfather clause.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that the value of the lots are not what they would be in other communities.
He asked why someone could not build a house on a 40-foot lot if a house e�sted on a 40-foot
lot since the foundation is there.
Mr. Monte Maher, 7965 Riverview Terrace, stated that City staff as well as the Planning
Commission did an excellent job, but he thought they were trying to pass something in an
underhanded way and that they were not giving everybody the full information. He thought it
came down to revenues and services and that the Planning Commission needed to reevaluate this
because they need more notice announcing their meetings. The people with 50 foot lots sitting
ne�t to them do not want these apartment garages put in there. He asked what would happen to
the values of the Riverview Heights area if apartments were built.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that the dates the Planning Commission and City Council
meetings are printed in the City's newsletters. She said Council is not trying to do anything
underhanded.
Mr. Maher stated that this would be stepping on toes.
Mayor Lund asked Mr. Maher about the people who have smaller homes on smaller lots who
cannot rebuild. He said that would help the valuations if those people do remodel.
Mr. Maher stated that does happen. It is only the ones that are in bad shape that end up burning
anyway. He thought there should be more investigation. It would be more of an added benefit to
let these lots stay there and be part of the jewel that it is in the neighborhood instead of letting a
builder come in and create a whole new community.
Mayor Lund asked how many lots are vacant at the present time.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that Mr. Bolin has the list which will be updated for the ne�t
Council meeting on February 26.
Mr. Maher stated that he appreciated Council listening and taking this item through the right
channels.
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Mr. Gary Bannochie, 665 Dover Street, stated that he built a house on Dover Street last summer.
This will create density. There is the tree issue, the small hub for the garage, and eight to nine
feet of house on top of a foundation. He said it would not look good.
Ms. Kim Saxe, 4452 Madison Street, Columbia Heights, stated that her home was one that was
lost to a fire on Lafayette Street which was a non-conforming lot. When the fire occurred, they
did not know that they could not rebuild. They tried to get the City to allow them to repair the
house. At that time, her parents still owed $35,000 on their mortgage. They were told that there
was affordable housing in Fridley. Her parents could not find anything affordable and ended up
living in an apartment while they searched for a house to purchase in Fridley. They found a
house in Columbia Heights with a$75,000 mortgage, but she and her parents had to enter into a
joint mortgage agreement. The new ordinance would prevent any other family from having to go
through the struggle they went through three years ago.
Ms. Dawn Myrvold, 554 Janesville Street, stated that she owned the other two properties that
burned down in the last two years in the Riverview Heights neighborhood. They were side-by-
side properties. She said she could not sell the property as one parcel because it was not
conforming and was asked to buy the neighboring lot to make it conforming. Three weeks
before the fire the lot was valued at $5,000. The day after the fire it was valued at $35,000. She
said she was advised by the City that she only needed 12 1/2 feet to make the lot conforming.
She said her house is located where it is to be able to fit the house onto the lot. She took the
12 1/2 feet because it was needed to build the garage. All the zoning was calculated from the
west lot. The 12 1/2 feet that she needed came off of this parcel. She said she no longer has a
50-foot lot that she can sell. She said she did not agree with the grandfather clause either. She
felt there was protection with this ordinance. She said she was very much in favor of this.
Mr. Jon Gjevres, 180 Hartman Circle, stated that he was not in favor of the ordinance. He
thought there should be a grandfather clause. He said the existing trees and tree rules would
make it hard to put a house on the lot.
Mayor Lund stated that the stipulation on this ordinance states that the ma�mum lot coverage
would not exceed 35 percent.
Mr. Bolin stated that you would not have any more lot coverage on the buildable lot and you
would still have the same sideyards as you would in any other zoning district.
Councilmember Bolkcom asked Mr. Gjevres if he was against someone with a 50-foot lot being
able to build again.
Mr. Gjevres stated that this would produce more of an inner city look.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that they are probably only talking one lot here.
Councilmember Wolfe stated that Council would have to wait until they received information to
make a determination.
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Councilmember Bolkcom asked how he would feel if it was three or four lots.
Mr. Gjevres asked what it would improve. He asked if it would produce a little more revenue.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that the reason she is in favor of this ordinance is because of the
people like the two that spoke whose houses burned down. She said that someone that has a
vacant lot with 5,000 feet should be able to build on it. She asked if anyone would build right
behind a Laundromat. She said that probably would not change the streetscape at all.
Mr. Gjevres felt a house looked better when it has a little more openness around the sides. He
asked why draw the line if people will not have a right to build on a 5,000 square foot lot. He
asked if a buyer could apply for a variance why would the City not allow a 45-foot variance to
have just as much right as the 5,000. It has been set at 75 feet for quite a while, and he felt it
looked great that way.
Mayor Lund stated that it is not Council's intention at all to generate additional revenue.
Mr. Gjevres stated that there is a fine line on where to stop and where to start.
Mayor Lund stated that there are two sides to every story.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that the homes on the 50-foot lots are nice little homes. They
should be protected.
Councilmember Barnette stated that this ordinance was more for protection of the 120 people
living now on 50-foot lots. He said one or two lots to build on would be insignificant. He said it
might be hard for people to get a reinvestment loan on a non-conforming property.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that many people may not realize they are on a non-conforming
lot until something catastrophic happens.
Mr. Gjevres asked if they could go about this in the grandfather clause way. He felt people
living in an e�sting house should have the right to rebuild what was there.
Councilmember Barnette stated that is basically what this ordinance does. This is a way to
protect the homes currently there for them to rebuild or remodel. There is a line someplace to
state the minimal and what is not.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that the important thing is for the planning staff to bring more
information back to Council about the vacant lots and why some of those lots are not buildable.
Mayor Lund stated that Council and staff do not have a vision for trying to ma�mize density for
tax revenue.
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Mr. Maher stated that there are also homes on flood plains that are not able to get any permits
because they are within the 100-year flood mark. He thought there might be many property
owners who may not know this.
Councilmember Bolkcom asked if the City was not also protecting neighboring lots as well by
making these homes and lots conforming. She said it would encourage people to get grants and
loans to fix up and remodel their homes. Every time someone fixes up their home and sells it, it
increases the property values too.
Mr. Maher stated that what is happening in the Riverview Heights neighborhood does work, and
now Council is going to change it. He said developers prey on cheap lots they can purchase
from the City, build, then sell them like the Gateway East project. Ne�t thing you know you
have rental property in a neighborhood, and there is no control over that.
Mr. Burns stated that every single unit built in Gateway East is owner-occupied.
Mr. Bannochie stated that he would appreciate it if the City would stop giving out his telephone
number to people who want information about his house. He said people stop on Saturday
mornings after the have come from the City Planner's office. He said he did not think that was
right. He felt they could get their own information.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that ne�t time maybe he could let the City know.
Mr. Bannochie stated that he would.
Mr. Bolin stated that to the best of his knowledge no one in the Community Development
Department has given out Mr. Bannochie's telephone number, but he would check with staff
members.
Mr. Stahlberg asked if someone would have the same legal rights if they combined two 25-foot
lots. He said his corner lot was tax forfeit property and was valued at $1,800. He said that
Anoka County advertised it for auction for $6,000 as a non-conforming lot. They did not know
that he owned the lot ne�t door, so he was able to build. He said that residents do not trust
government. He said he did not understand why you could build on a 40 foot lot but not on a 45
foot lot. He felt anything could be done if you went to court.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that Council was not going to get some residents to trust them,
no matter what decision they make.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that the mistrust was because of Council's past performance.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that residents would have to petition Council, appear before the
Planning Commission and then have the results forwarded to Council.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that he felt that Council would pass this ordinance with all the people in the
audience not wanting it.
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Councilmember Bolkcom stated that there are not a lot of people in the audience. She said this
information has been in the newsletter. She said she has not received any telephone calls.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that Council has been very inconsistent and changing its mind especially on
variances.
Mayor Lund stated that this ordinance was not a done deal. He said Council would like to
preserve the integrity of the neighborhood. He said Council would like to come to some kind of
agreement with the residents. He said Council was trying to find the best solution.
Mr. Burns stated that every home the HRA has purchased has been supported by one or more
appraisals. He said it is very difficult to pursuade the HRA to spend e�tra money. He said the
lot the HRA purchased from the Saxes was a non-conforming lot and was appraised at the value
that was paid to the Saxes.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that he knows people who have had property purchased by the HRA. The
houses that are on non-conforming lots have had single garages.
Mr. Burns stated that in many cases those homes were not appraised for the amount of the
purchase price. That is what fair market value is these days.
Mr. Stahlberg asked what a non-conforming lot was.
Mr. Burns stated that the HRA paid the price consistent with a non-conforming lot.
Mayor Lund stated that does not seem like a lot of money for a lot that is non-conforming or not.
He said Council was trying to protect the integrity of the neighborhood by buying the lots and
determining if two lots could be combined to make a conforming lot.
Councilmember Bolkcom stated that if Mr. Stahlberg gave Council the addresses in question
regarding payment from the HRA, staff could research the appraisals and the purchase prices.
Councilmember Wolfe stated that he could see both sides of the issue.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that he was afraid new houses might be built as cheap as possible and then
rented out. He did not think that would be good for the neighborhood.
Councilmember Barnette stated that he would not let a house get trashed if he was going to rent
it out. He said that would be a dumb investment.
Mayor Lund thanked Mr. Stahlberg for coming in. He said Mr. Stahlberg's points were well
taken and would be taken under advisement.
MOTION by Councilmember Bolkcom to continue the public hearing until March 5. Seconded
by Councilmember Barnette.
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Councilmember Bolkcom asked Mr. Bolin if that was enough time to gather information
regarding the vacant lots.
Mr. Bolin stated that it should be enough time.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE RECODIFYING THE FRIDLEY CITY
CODE, CHAPTER 205, ENTITLED "ZONING" BY ADDING A NEW SECTION
205.XX, 0-5 RESIDENTIAL LOTS CREATED PRIOR TO 1955 DISTRICT
REGULATIONS (ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, ZTA #00-04, BY THE CITY
OF FRIDLEY):
MOTION by Councilmember Bolkcom to table the first reading until March 5. Seconded by
Councilmember Wolfe.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
13. ESTABLISH A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MARCH 5, 2001, ON AN ORDINANCE
AMENDING CHAPTER 7 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CHARTER PERTAINING
TO TAXATION AND FINANCES:
MOTION by Councilmember Bolkcom to establish a public hearing for March 5. Seconded by
Councilmember Wolfe.
Mr. Pete Eisenzimmer, 6535 Oakley Drive, stated that this public hearing was voted on by the
residents. He wanted to know why Council was returning to a public hearing. He said that all of
a sudden the residents are going to have all these changes. He said he could not believe Council
would do this.
Mayor Lund stated that this is simply to clarify the wording of the amendment with the full
intent of leaving the Charter Amendment intact as far as content.
Mr. Knaak stated that this public hearing was a submission by the Charter Commission. This
matter was reviewed by them, and there are some language issues that they want Council to
consider. The usual process is to have a public hearing and keep it open in the whole process to
assure everybody that there would not be any substantive change that would change what the
voters had done. That is already the law in the City of Fridley. These issues will be relevant at
the public hearing.
Mr. Eisenzimmer stated that he would bring this up at the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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14. INFORMAL STATUS REPORTS:
Mr. Burns stated that he did not have any informal status reports to discuss.
ADJOURN:
MOTION by Councilmember Barnette to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Councilmember
Wolfe.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
FEBRUARY 5, 2001, CITY COUNCIL MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:58 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Signe L. Johnson Scott J. Lund
Recording Secretary Mayor