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MINUTES OF REGULAR PARKS AND RECR�ATION COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 22, 1971.
Meeting was calied to order at 7:3Q p.m. by Chairman Fitzpatrick.
M&MB�RS PR&SBNT: Fitzpatrick, Blair, Olson, Stimmler,
M�MSERS AaSENT; Wagar.
OTHERS PRESENT: Mrs. Carolyn Rouse, 210 Rice Creek Blvd., 786-7132, L.W.V.
Jean Schell, 5198 St. Moritz Drive, 788-3283, L.W.V.
Haxx'y �n�gel, 82q1 46th Avenue North, Mpls, 788-9784, Sun Newspapers.
John Balinski, 333 Rice Creek Texrace, 560-3338, Ski Team.
Walt Wenholz, 5Q1 69th Avenue N�, 561-1598, �Babe Ruth Baseball.
Betty Ann Mech, 1315 66th Avenue NE, 786-1197, Nature Trail.
Gerald Sadowski, 401 Rice Creek Blvd., 784-2311, Nature Trail.
Kent Parke, 1349 Hillcrest Driva, 788-8941, Youth Advisory.
Richard Kyra, 980 Hackmann Circle, 788-6240, Ski Team.
Thomas Brickner, 5840 Tennison Qrive, 788-5309, Ski Team.
Mike 0'Bannon, 5298 Pillmore Street N6, 7$8-3484, County Commissioner.
Roy McPherson, 5808 Tennison Drive, 788-2440, Little League.
Tom Matter, Sr., S$96 Jefierson Stxeet NE, 560-7493, Little League.
Tom Lijewski, 207 65th Avenue North, 566-6638, Journalism Student.
Ch�ryl Gonse, 6400 Georgra North, 560-8972, Visitor.
MINllTES QF M�ETZNG, JANUARY 2S, 1971.
MOTIt�N by U�,aan, Seeanded by S�i.r►»n.ee�c, .to appnave .the hli.n�.�tea o� �he negu,�ah.
mee�t�+.g an Janu.a�ey 25, 1911. The. Mozi,an e.cvV�.i.ed.
SKI TEAM,
^ Sev�ral citiaens wexe present to maka the suggestion that a Ski Team be offered
by the City o� Fxidley iox the 1971 - 1972 Winter Season. Th�y explained that
ther� was a difference between the Ski Team and a Ski Club. A Ski Team would
be invalvesi-prim$rily in competition with other schools and a Ski Club is a group
of people who get together £or the purpose of Skiing together. If competition is
involved, it'd be only in fun and among themselves. A Ski Team Gould even be
invplved in the State Competition,
Tom Brickner was the spokesman for the group and he explained that he had done
some rasearch on other schools and their Teams. Cooper gives $1,500.00 toward
a Ski Team. White Bear Schools provide $150.00 plus transportation. If Fridley
w�xe to become involved in this type of activity, they would have to join the
conferenca. Th�y would probably be with Stillwater, North St. Pau]., Blake, etc.
The cast would involve special poles and transportation. It wouldn't necessarily
involve many spscial types of skis, Mr. Bricknex had inquired at several of the
slopas ta get som� typs of idea.as to the money it would involve if they were to
t�ave ski practi.ce every night after school. Lift tickets are $1.00 a night at
Birch Park, or $25.OQ a season, This would haye to be paid by the individual.
Kent Parke, Youth Advisor from School District #14,.a�d also a member of the
Fridley High School Ski Club, told the Commission that there were approximately
72 students on the rolls and 58 were active.
MQTION by O.e,aan, Seeanded by S.ii�r�n.Qvc, �ta .ta�ie .th.e �.de.a. �an a Sh.i. Te,am �on F1c,t.d2ey,
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Mr, 8xickner suggested that a survey be taken to show interest in such a program.
Mr, arown suggested that t��s idea bq submitted to the District #14 School Board,
since ths school would probably want to handle the activity, once it was proven
tQ ba sueeessful. Mr. Brickner will approach the School Board.
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Minutes o£ Regular Meeting, Februaxy 22, 1971. Page 2
RTCE CREEK NATURE TRAIL.
Mrs. Betty Ann Mech and Mr. Gera7,d Sidowski were present to reapproach the
Commission xegarding tha Rice Creek Nature Trail. They showed slides which were
taken on a canoe trip down Rice Creek last summer. Then, they gave a brief
sxplanation of th�ir propased �deas for the Nature Trail and Nature Center to be
built alon� Rice Creek.
Mrs, Mech said that the Gommittee for the Rice Cresk Nature Trail had approached
the Metropolitan Council for possible funds. They have three areas in mind �or
funds which they presently have avai.lable, and the Rice Creek Nature Trail is
one of them. Mxs. Mech said they were hopeful that the money would be turned
aver to the City £or this project.
Mrs. Mech said that Richfieid has a snowshoeing program ior wintertime and they
have just finished a Nature Center. Bloomington has a Nature Center, and Carver
County (owned by Hennepin County) is the oldest and largest Nature Center in the
area. There is no center in the northern subuxbs,
Mrs. Mech said that she has given information to the City Manager's Office, to be
placed on the Ci�y Council Agenda for March 1. She has approached Mr. A1 Kordiak,
Anoka County Commissioner, and hs is very interested, and if the City Council will
make 'a resolution and send it to the County, he'd start things moving at the
County level.
Mr. Mike 0'6annon, County Commissioner, said that he and.Mr. Kordiak plan to have
a better look at the project this Spring.
Mr. Blair asked who would be in charge of the trail once it was completed. If
the Metropolitan Council, Anoka County, and the City of Fridley were all involved
with it, who would govern it? Mr. Brown said that the Metropolftan Council would
turn the money over to the City of Fridley, not to an individual, and only when
there is a definite plan of action. Mr. 0'Bannon said,that Anoka County would
only paxticipate as far as funds were conconcerned. They would leave the actual
management of the Trail and Center in the hands of the City of Fridley.
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AISCUSSION: Mr. Stimmler asked if there was a financial problem relating to the
Budget. He recommends that if there is going to be a certain amount of money
invalved, that�it aot be taken from the Parks and Recreation B�dget.
Mr. Olson said that the Metropolitan Council should be invited to attend one of
our meetings and spell out the obligations such as funds, etc. Mr. Sidowski said
that the only cost would be for blue prints (the master plan needed to obtain funds
frvm the Metro�oli.tan Council.)
BABE RUTH BASEBALL.
n Mr. Walt Wenholz, Baseball Coach for Fridley School District #14, was present at
the invitation of the Commission, to discuss the possibilities of a Babe Ruth Basa�
ball program in Fxidley. He explained that there is already a Sr. Babe Ruth
Program, so this would be just the Jr. Babe Ruth. The Sr. Babe Ruth is a traveling
team program and is sponsored by the V.F.W., ��11 Beery and the Fridley State Bank,
and Midland Coop.
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BABE RUTH BASEBALL (con't):
Mr. Wenholz stated that if the present program was changed to a Babe Ruth Program,
the boys would bs eligible to participate in the District and State Babe Ruth
Tournaments, It would be the same basic program, requiring the same things
prpvided by the City in the past. Last year our program had six teams and we
could start the new program with this number.
Mr. Wenholz contacted the Little League people and they are willing to support
such a program.
Mr. McPhersan, President of I,ittle League, was present to discuss the proposed
program. He stated that Little League involved boys from ages 9 to 12. It
was started in Fridley in 1964, and they had 500 boys enrolled last year, playing
14 scheduled games. They lease property fxom the City, directly behind the
school, for their games and practices. It covers approximately a 2 block area.
Each year, they spend between $2,000.00 and $4,OQ0.00 for uniforms, equipment,
etc. This year, they hope to expand to two divisions. Little League could
include boys ages 13, 14, F� 15, but it hasn't in the past.
Mr. Wenholz stated that the Babe Ruth Program has a very strong State organization.
Mr. Brown said that the City could not provide uniforms. They would probably have
to play without uni£orms the�iirst year and then pick a sponsor who would provide
uniforms and other necessary equipment.
n The Commission asked i£ all boys would be able to play. Me. Wenholz said that all
boys would be encouxaged to play. They would be divided into teams, using a
draft method, where each coach would choose one boy at a time, in turn.
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Mr. Brown recommended that the program be set up like the Football and Hockey
Associations. He rocommends a written agreement be drafted.
The Sr. Babe Ruth won the State Tournament last year, and traveled to Missouri,
where they played Ohio and Illinois before being defeated. This program would
continue as always.
Mr. Mcpherson asked if
using fields when they
a permit basis.
fields would be earmarked for Babe Ruth so they could be
are needed? Baseball fields would be made available on
MdTION by O�.aan, Secanded by B�a,ih., �a aeeep� �+.e anga.n.i.zcL#,i.on ca.P�ed Babe Ru,th,
and ae.t -i.i up �o be apelca,ted .P.i.h.e xhe �ne,aen� faa�ba.PZ and Hach.ey Aedoc.i,a.t,i.an.a.
The Mp�c:ori cahh.i.ed.
YOUTH ADVISORY.
Kent Parke was present, at the invitation of the Commission, to represent the
Fridley High School Student Council. Mr. Fitzpatrick explained, briefly, what
the Commission had in mind, regarding Youth Advisory to the Commission. Basically,
he explained, the Commission requested the presence of some member or members
of the Student Council, to attend the meetings on a quarterly basis, or oftener,
i� tkey so desire, to voice their opinions on the success or present programs and
how they can be improved, and also, to discuss proposed programs and how to get
more students involved in them.
Mx. Paxke seemed enthu;ed about the i.dea and tva.11 xepoxt back to the Student
Council.
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ANQKA COUNTY �OMMISSIQNER.
Mr. Mike 0'Bannon, Anaka County Commission, was present at the invitation o�
the Commission. Mx. Fitzpatrick sta�ed that the County Commissioner has attended
meetings af the Commissian on a regular basis, in the past, and asked Mr.
0'Bannon for his opinion. Mr. 0'Bannon will try to maintain the same schedule
of attendance.
Mr. Q'Bannon stated that he feels the County should participate more in the
park� within the City. He said that if development of roads, etc., are required,
the GQUn�y has the manpower and eauipment to do it and should.
Mr. 0'Bannon will plan to attend the February, May, August, and November meetings.
PBTITZON FOR A PARK.
The Commission received a petitio� from the Citizens of Fridley, regarding land
lacated east of Old Centxal. The land is generally located between Mississippi
Stxeet and Rice Greek Road, Stinson Boulevard and Arthur Street. The petition
xequssts that the major portion of this property be left in its natural state
£or educational and ecological value.
This property �s presently, pxivately owned and is a low land which would involve
a drainage problem before many improvements could be made. The people who own it
want to develop it, We don't contxol it at the present time. The petitioners are
asking us to buy it as a park land,
^ The Commissianers all agreed that they would like to drive out and look at the
' propexty be�are they maks any decisions.
MOTTUN by �k�son, Seeonded by S.i',imrr�eh., xa xaFze .i,n�ta eana.i.ccie�cafi.i.an, �an �wLihen
a�u.dy, �he pnapeh,ty .�.aca.te.d 6e,tween M,i.ad�.aa�.pp�. S�Jcee.t and R.i.ce CneeFi Raad,
S�tc'n�an Bau.Qevand and An,thun S�icee,t, �a 6e p.e.a.eed an �he agenda a.t a.ea.te�c da.te.
The Max,i.an. ccvuued.
Mrs, Carolyn Rouse, a member o£ the League of Women Voters, was present and
suggested that a possible solution could be found in the "Green Acres Act". This
is a State Act. This would cut the citizens taxes and leave this area as open
space and no one would builcl on it, but the taxes wouldn't be increased because
of it. She didn�t know if this land would qualify or not.
AAJ�URNMENT.
MOTIDN by O.P.bon, xo ad1aWcn �h.e mee�i.ng a.t 10:30 p.m,
The next regular meeting will be held on Monday, March 22, 1971, at 7:30 p.m. in
the conference room at Civic Center.
R�spect,fully submltted,
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C H E STQRAAHL, ecretary to the Commission