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PR 09/27/1971�.�i _ - � � � f ��� � �-� , \ � MINUfES OF THE REGULAR PARKS Alm RECREATION (�OM�IISSION MEETING, SEPTFJrBER Z�, ��1� Meeting was called to order at 7:50 p.m., by Chairman Fitzpatrick. MEMBERS PRESENT: Fitzpatrick, Blair, Olson, Stimmler, Wagar. MEMBERS ABSENT: None. OTHERS PRESENT: Paul Brown, Director of Parks and Recreation. Curtis Dahlberg, Park Planner. Cathie Stordahl, Secretary to the Commission. MINUTES OF AUGUST �. 1971 r��in� � MUTI�N by Sx,i.mm.2e�., Secanded by Glagan, xa appnove �he M-c:nwte.� a� xhe Regu,�a�c Pcvch,a and Rech.eai'.i.on Comm.i.a.a.�.on Mee,t,i.ng{ daied Au.gu,�� 30, 1971. ; DISCUSSION: Mr. Olson questioned the absense of his Motion requesting a meeting with the City Manager regarding the Tot Lot which was petitioned for, South of Freeway #694 and West of 7th Street N.E. in Fridley. According to the Commission Secretary, the Motion was never Seconded or brought to a vote. None of the other Commissioners could remember the outcome of the Motion. After a brief discussion, the Commissioners agreed to.approve the Minutes as written: The Mafi,i.on c.a�vc,i.ed. (�UARTERLY REPa2TS� n Mr. Brown explained to the Commission that due to the heavy work load in the _ Department, the Quarterly Memorandum and t�e Quarterly Parks Work Progress Report, would have to be mailed out. Both Mr. Volkman and he were unable to get these reports completed before the meeting. 1972 Bun��'r, Mr. Brown informed the Commission that the property on 53rd and 5th Streets N.E., has been red-tagged by the City Council, for park purposes. Mr. Stimmler drew the Commission's attention to Page #125 of the 1972 Budget as it is to be presented to the City Council. Under Land, 475.50, Priority #3, it lists the swa of $25,000.00 for Land Unallocated. Mr. Stimmler pointed out that if he were a, Councilman and saw such a large swn of money for lands unallocated, this would.be one of the very first itears he would be cutting from the total Parks request. The Commissioners agreed that the park lands should have been defined in detail when requesting such a large sum of money. In the original Budget which was presented to the City Administration, the Priority #3 under Land was to be divided into three sections. The sub-priorities were to be #1 - Ruth Circle, #2 - Hyde Park, and #3 - 53rd $ 5th Streets N.E. Mr. Wagar asked the Commissioners and Mr. Brown if they had thought much about the cost of the Viewcon Project and from where the Department was to obtain this money? Mr. Brown informed Mr. Wagar that the land was merely red-tagged for future ^ consideration and future Budgets. Mr. Stimmler questioned the steel picnic shelters which remain in the Budget. He stated that in his opinion, the children were in greater need of warming houses for the skating season, than they were of steel picnic shelters. He pointed out that there is always a great deal of talk about what th� Eity and the Parks and Recreation 9 � Minutes of Parks $ Recreation Commission Meeting, �5eptember 27, 1971. Page 2 �%1 BImGET �CON'T) : Department are doing as far as providing picnic areas or other activities for non- residents tu come in and use, is concerned, and that this is a prime sample of this type of action. Mr. Stimmler said that he felt that additional steel picnic shelters are not needed in Fridley, but warming houses for the skaters definitely are. Mr. Stimmler felt that this should be reconsidered. Mr. Fitzpatrick requested that the Commissioners move on to other items on the agenda and return to the Budget at a later time during the meeting. The Commission � agreed. ITEMS MAILED DURIWG THE MONTH� Mr. Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Brown if he had obtained any results from his Survey of Municipal Pools. Mr. Brown said that he had heard from Minneapolis and Brooklyn Center, but to date he had not had a chance to prepare the results of the survey. Mr. Olson brought the Commissioners' attention to the letter dated September 3, 1971, from himself to Mr. Fitzpatrick as Chairman of the Commission. He stated that since the last meeting, he had contacted Dr. Lawrence Foote of the State Highway Department, regarding the improvement of the conditions of Moore Lake. He informed Dr. Foote that he would ask Mr. Brown to write a letter of request to him for help in improving the conditions of the Lake. Dr. Foote suggested that in this letter, n Mr. Brown should state that Highway #694 and Highway #65 have an impact on the conditions of this Lake. The Commissioners were in agreement and Mr. Brown will write the letter to the State Highway Department. M�TIUN by S�',i,nm.�e�c, Secanded by B.P.cwc, �o .i.nd�cue.t Mn. Bnown -ta con�a.e.t �he Sxa.te H,i.ghwtic.y �epah.imen,t ne.gandi.ng .the .impae� o� �h.e �neew�a.y and h.i.ghuxcy a yaxeme on bo�h. Fa.ax and Weaz Moane LaFze.a, and nepo�r,t baeFz �o xh.e Canmu,aa.i.an uti,th h.i.a neauX�;a . The Mafi.�.on c.anhi.e.d. �TZ BI�GET iREAPENE� FOR DISCUSS ION) � Mr. Wagar asked Mr. Brown to refer to the 1971 Budget for a minute and inform the Commission of the status of the Hockey Rink for Meadowlands Park. Mr. Brown said that the boards have already been built, but that they may be installed at the Grace High School site instead of at Meadowlands. Another set of boards will be installed at Burlington Northern Park, South of Freeway #694. Mr. Brown stated that there is presently a problem with Grace High School Rink, due to grading af the area. The football team is presently practicing on the field and they don't want to disturb the ground until the season is over. This leaves very little time to get the ground ready for flooding. Mr. Brown said that he is communicating with the people at Grace and will be proceeding at the earliest possible time after an agreement has been made. At various times throughout the meeting, the Commissioners all expressed concern %1 over the lack of communication between the City Manager, the City Council, and the Parks and Recreation Commission. Mr. Fitzpatrick remarked that the recommend��ions of the Commission are not reaehing the City Council. Mr. Olson said that it's fine for the City Administration to mak� r. � 0 Minutes of Parks F, Recreation Commission Meeting, September 27, 1971. Page 3 �1972 Bu�Er (ca�'T) : suggestions and revisions of the Parks and Recreation Budget, but that the Ordinance states that "The Parks and Recreation Commission shall advise the City bfanager and the City Council" of their Budget requests. Mr. Brown stated that it is possible that this is in direct violation of the City Charter. The Commissioners further discussed portions of last year's Budget (1971) and the Budget which is going to Council for 1972. They questioned Mr. Brown about certain items and if they had been taken care of. Mr. Wagar discussed the Hockey Rinks for the upcoming season and the exact location of the new ones. Mr. Olson asked how the Budget cuts would effect the Department as far as additional manpower was concerned. Mr. Brown pointed out that we were the only Department that was getting an additional man. Mr. Wagar stated that he felt it should be determined whether or not the Commission was in violation of the City Charter, by preparing and suggesting things to the City Council in the form of the Budget. Mr. Wagar wanted to be on record and have some- one in authority make the decision regarding this problem. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that he hadn't heard of this before and was unaware of the problem before Mr. Brown stated it at the meeting. Mr. Brown said that there is an indication or it is a known fact that cextain regulations in the City Ordinance, adopting the Parks and Recreation Commission, which are in direct violation of the City Charter. n Mr. Fitzpatrick said that he felt an investigation was in order. Mr. Brown agreed and said that in this manner, they can compare the items in question and see if there are any gross contridictory statements in the two docwnents. Mr. Wagar said that since they have been appointed by �he City Council, if there was no authority in conjunction with this, then he feels their time is being wasted. Mr. Brown said it should be made clear that this relates only to the Budget and Mr. Wagar and the other Commissioners agreed. MOTI�N b Ul cvc, Seconded b Becwc .t6�a�t we aaFz .the C-i.t on w 2t e�c on no� �he Pcue an ee�eea.tcan omm.c.aa.c.on, ae ;c� ,cn v.co n o e eh., .cn neb�e _ e►ye � ►� n vn a �ega.e ap�n-i on n The Commission asked Mr. Brown to find out the dates of the public hearings and agenda items concerning the Commission and the Parks and Recreation Budget, and mail them to the members. Mr. Brown said he would do this. v� EwcoN �aECT, Mr. Brown told the Commission that they should take a minute to decide if the Viewcon project areas provided for Park Lands, were acceptable. Mr. Brown said that the City Engineer was awaiting a decision from the,Commission. Mr. Stimmler stated that as far as he was concerned, we shouldn't ever spend money there because it'll be more ox less privately owned. /'� MOTI�N by S.t-i.mm.Ze�c �mm.t.bbtian�a►�. a e anea an a,t �.Lt ane na� an w.c ��,,,,,,.,�..... Secanded b #o .cn anm �cme ane O.eaon, .ta �.ne�ul.c.t_Mn. B�+.own Zo we 0 4 .th.e vc.ewb a oveh: pa on o Nc¢,cc. 7 he MO�,<.on �, �, � f Minutes o� Parks Y, Recreation Commission Meeting, September 27, 1971. Page 4 , � � �• M�TION by Glagcvc, Seconded by B�a.il�., #o ad�ounn -the mee�',i.ng cc,t 9:30 p.m. The Mazi.on ca��.e.d . The next regular raeeting will be held on October 18, 1971, at 7:30 p.m., in the Community Room, at Fridley Civic Center. PLEASE NOTE: The meeting will be on the 3rd Monday instead of the 4th Monday in October, due to the Legal Holiday. Respectfully submitted, Qt�t.c�J �a�a.,�� CATHIE TORDAHL, Secretary to Commission � � , � ._.:..