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PR 01/31/1972�a ' - ,u J(% ; � �, �, C'- �' . .l I � MIAJtJTES �� Tc�i� REGIJL.�1R PARlCS AND RECREATION CQMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 31., ..�9%Z, � Meeting was ca:lled to order at 7:50 p.m., by Chairman Fitzpatrick. ^ MF.MBERS PRESENT: Fitzpatrick, Blair, Olson. MEMBERS RBSENT: Stimmler, Wagar. OTHERS PRESENT: Adolph Kukowski, 6131 5th Street NE, 55432, 560-6469, J.C.'s. ` Paul Brown, Director of Parks � Recreation. - Cathie Stordahl, Secretary to the Commission. MINUTES OF DECEMBER 20, I9�I MEETING� MOTI�N by B.�.cr,i�., Secande.d 6y O.Q,�tion, �a a�pnove �l�.e M-i.ncLte,a o� �he Regu.ecvc Pah.Fu and Rec�cea�',t;an Comm�i.ad�.on Mee,t,c.ng, da,ted Decembetc 20, 1971. The Ma�i,an ewvc.i.ed. PARK DEPARTMENT SNIFTS� Mr. 8rown informed the Commission that the Park Department Staff has gone on a split shift for the duration of the skating season. The men were given a chance to bid their desired shift, according to seniority. They'll work a five day shift, but not all of them will be off on Saturday and Sunday. This change in schedul:e is an effort to cut doc,m on the amount of overtime required to maintain the ice for the skating season. Mr. Brown reports that to date, it seems to be working out satisfactorily. �LANERY ESTATE� � Mr. Brown asked the Commission for direct guidelines as to the way to use the money in the Flanery Estate. n ... Mr. Olson reminded the Commission that a monument was requested by the executors of Estate, in memory of Mr. Flanery. Mr. Brown agreed that this would be done, but that he'd like some assistance in determining how to spend�the remaining funds. Mr. �3rown recommended that lights could be installed in the park, to enable the residents to play ball and hockey. He pointed out that there is a defi�iite need for lighting at all of our parks, if for no other reason tha^ liability. Mr. Blair pointed out that the rink is too small for Hockey and he feels it would be a waste of money to install lights. Mr. Brown said that if lights were installed, the rink would be made to regulation size for Hockey. The Commission agreed that if the rink could be enlarged, that this would be a good idea for use of the donation. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that of Fridley's Parks, Flanery and Burlington Northern were the only ones without lights. . , � • Mr. Fitzpatrick also recommended that perhaps a nice piece of apparatus for the summer playground, would be in order. The Commissioners agreed that it should probably be spent on one or two larger items, rather than a group of miscellaneous small items, such as picnic tables and burners. Mr. Blair recommended that this topic be tabled until the February. MUTION by 8.e.a.itc., Secanded 6y D.P�son, �o �a.b.?e �he. di�c�.us�s�.on os �he �s�e�id.�.ng o� �und� dana�ed by �he F�a:neh.y F�s.t�,ie, uv�t,i,e .th.e �e6nucucy mee,ti.ng. The Mo�,i.on ecuvc�,ed. ^JO'r{;d ERICKSON PARK. Mr. Fitzpatrick opened the discussion of the letter received from Mrs. Robert Haake, regarding the proposeci beach on Spring Lake. In her letter, Mrs. Haake states that there are already two beaches located on this lake, and she feels another beach Minu�es o£ Parks � Recreation Commission Meeting, January 31, 1972. Page 2 , J�kfN ERICI�SON RAR�C CCON �T) : � would not�be an asset to such a small lake. She apparently visualizes a beach similar to the one located on East Moore Lake. � .., Mr. Brown informed the Commission that the beach which F'ridley is proposing will in no way reflect the one at Moore Lake. The tract of land which Fridley owns is quite • small and there would be no place to surface for parking, so this would merely be a neighborhood beach and we would provide a guard for their safety. Also suggested for this beach were docks, picnic tables and burners, but no beach house. We would grobably rent Satellites for bathroom facilities. Mr. Brown reminded the Commission that we received the $2,000.00 Beach Grant from Anoka County last year and this sum is being held in escrow for beach develogment. We have applied for this same grant for this year and the combined monies should be enough to get a good start on the beach. Mr, Brown stated that Mrs. Haake envisions a beach similar to Moore Lake and�this just isn't going to be built. She states that mothers watch the younger children who are swimming, but what about the older children who are old enough to go to the beach without supervision? These children are out on inner tubes and if something would happen, there�s no one qualified, who could be of any assistance to the one in distress. MOTIUN 6y aan, Seconded by 0.?�son, za �.v�s.t�cu.c,t M�c. B�r.own �a neapand .to �he .�e,ttvc �n.am Mn,d . HaaFze, and tin�onrr► hetr. a��tc,i.d2e y't, �.eccn�s and wha,t .i,a ptca pa.� ed �an .�he 6eaeh on Sptc,i.ng LaFie. The Ma�',i.on calvr,<:ed. � TRADE OF PROPERTY NEAR LOCKE LAKE, . Mr. Fitzpatrick stated that he expected to see some neighbors from the area East of Ashton and near the railroad tracks. The northern part of this area is to be developed and the developer has come before the Planning Commission with his proposals and requests that the alley easement be vacated in his favor which would narrow the park land adjacent to it, considerably. The Park land is awfully narrow now. The land the City owns is called Locke Lake Park and it's not developed. The residents of the area have never requested development, but rather they have made use of the open properties available. Now with this new development, these open properties will no longer be in existance and there won't be park possibilities available. The developer has proposed to trade the north lot, once it',s platted, for a couple of ' tax forfeit lots on the south end of this property. He would gain more total frontage in this trade, but would be giving up the area that we might want. Some of the neighbors appcared before the Planning Commission when this development came up, and they were wondering just what kind of a park they might expect. The problem the City will face is just who will have to pay the assessments on these tax forfeit lots. The assessments would probably run in the neighborhood of $4 - 5,000.00. The City Assessor is in the process of researching these properties. The present park property is at a 45 degree angle. The Planning Commission did not approve the request to vacate the al2ey right of way. n According to 69r. Fitzpatrick, what this trade would involve, is that we'd be paying, roughly $4,500.00, for adding a lot fio the park we already have. Mr. Blai.r stated that he felt it was a lot of money and when we're through, we wouldn't really have much. Mr. Fitzpatrick said tha: on the other hand, the area residents have nothing now and anything would be an improvement. { ., �, .. �. �. . . . . . . � . � . . . . . � . . � Minutes.af Farks � Recreation Commission Meeting, January 31, 1972. Pag� 3 '' TRAUE OF RROPER'lY NEAR LOCKE LAKE iCON �T) : n Mr. Olson,recommended that the Commission take no action and that it be left up to the discretion of the City Council. Mr. Blair agreed and no motion was made. , G1FT FR01�1 FRIDLEY JAYCEES� _ << Adolph Kukowski, President of the Fridley Jaycees, was present to inform the Commission that the Jaycees are looking for a Civic Project. They have about $4,000.00 to spend and a Iot of man power, so they would like some suggestions for a project. Mr. Kukowski stated that they have more man pawer than money, so would like. the Commi-ssion to make their suggestions accordingly. He stated that the Jaycees are interested in totally developing a park. � Mr. Brown suggested the following possibilities: Rice Creek Park, Locke Lake Park, Chases Island, Burlington Northern Park, and Innsbruck Park. Mr. Kukowsl:i tenatively ruled out Burlington Northern Park, because it�s only a leased park and with proper notification, could revert back to Burlington Northern. The City would then have to remove all equipment and the Jaycee groject would be lost. . After reviewing all five of the areas, it was recommended by Mr. Blair, that Chases Island and Rice Creek Park be made accessible to the Jaycees £or possible development. MO71c�N 6y 8�.c�i�c, Secanded by 0.2�on, �o maFie Cha.de�s Id.e.and and R.ice Cneefz PcvcFz n accebe�.b.�e �o �he Fir.i.d.�ey Jayceea �on poa�s�.b.�e deveP.a�mev�t. The Mafi.c:an eatcn,i,ed. MUNICIPAL SWIMMING POOL FOR FRIDLEY� Mr. Fitzpatrick introduced the discussion of the Municipal Swimming Pool for Fridley. The City Council has referred this question back to the Commission, as they have done before, for more information. Mr. Brown explained to the Commission that as far as he was concerned, the Department had done everything they could. He s�id that he had sent out letters to the various communities who have constructed pools, asking for size, construction information, cost, and fund raising activities. He had received information back from several of them and compiled it in a report for the Council. The Council, in turn, referred the, information and study back to the Commission for furth�r research. Mr. Brown replied that he didn't know what else could be done on the Department level. Any further information would have to come from professional people. ' Mr. Blair recommended that the Council bring � professional group in to answer the questions a through e in the City Manager's Memo dated December 12, 1971. Mr. Blair also recommended that a letter be sent to City Organizations to see what their opinions are, concerning the needs for a municipal swimming pool. MUTI�N 6y O.Q�son, Seeonded by 8.ea,ilc, �a d�cec,i Mn. Bycawn �o wju,te a.2e,tte�c, �a �he C.i.ty Ongar►,i.za�,i.on�s neque�s�,i.ng on�.n,�.arvs on a�lvicee na�,wt �swc.vey and �he �o�a:� eoaZ o� a Mun,i.c.i.�a.2 Sw�.rnm.cng Peo.� Son Fn,i.d2ey, and �he,uc �sugge�ti,ovvs �on eom�.�e�,i.o�. a� � .th,i�s p�ca1 ee.t. The Mo.t,t.an eatvue.d . C0� I T I OiV OF MOORE LAKE � Mr. Erown informed the Commission that he had met with Dx. Lawrence Foote of the Minn�sota Highway Department, concerning the conditions of Moore Lake and the affect . _ . . � : Minutes o� the Paxks �, Recreation Commission Meeting, January 31, 1972. Page 4 , C.f�VD� �'? QNS OF N�ORE IAKE iCQN �T) : I n . the highway and freeway systems drainage are having on it. According to Dr. Foote, the majority of the problems of the pollution of Moore Lake are coming from th� development of'homes and land to the East of the lake itself, rather that from the •' 'highway. Dr. Foote said that they had figured out the amount of tonage being , deposited in the lake from the contractors, and likewise, the amount being deposited from the freeway system. Dr. Foote reports that there is possibly up to 6Q0 ton of sediment �coming into the lake per year, from the East side, and of that, only 20 to 50 ton is resulting from highways. Mr. Brown stated that, depending on the severity of the situation and whether or not i_t is resulting from the highways, the State will pay a percentage of the cost for correcting the problem. Dr. Foote did some research on Moore Lake and it was a marsh land. In 1954, the highway was built. East Moore Lake was nothing but bogs and one could walk across � it, so this is where they dredged the material from to build the road. Once the development of the area immediately to the East of Lake was begun, the sediment once again began moving down to the lake, and thus the marsh--1ike state was once � again beginning to £orm. He stated that naturally these areas return to their original state, if something isn't done ta stop it. - There are presently 5 major drainage systems which lead into the lake at this time. Sediment basins could be installed, but this is costly. The majority of the problem is not chemical, but rather sediment. Dr. Foote felt that we'd be working in�vain until construction in the area is completed. ^ The fish kill isn't due to chemicals from the highway, either. This is due to the lack of oxygen and the shallowness of the lake. Dredging entered the discussion and to do this, the materials would have to be trucked out. The original plan was to move it to the�end of the end of the lake and deposit it there, but with the conditions as they are now, it is highly recommended that the materials be trucked out of the area completely. MEEf I NG D�1TES � The Commission has delayed the setting of the regular Commission Meeting dates, until a full board of Commissioners is present. :1 � ; ! ► ,` MOTION 6y B.Qa,�h, Seeanded by 0.26an, �o adfawcn zhe mee,t,i,ng a,i 9:45 p:m. The next regular meeting will be held on February 28, 1972, at 7:30 p.m., in the Community Room at Fridley Civic Center. Respectfully submitted, , ��a�� � _ � � �� � ^:ATHIE STORDAHL, Secretary to the Commission 0