PL 12/19/2012
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
December 19, 2012
Chairperson Kondrick
called the Planning Commission Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Jack Velin, Brad Sielaff, David Kondrick, Leroy Oquist, and Dean
Saba
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Brad Dunham and Tim Solberg
OTHERS PRESENT:
Julie Jones, Planning Manager
Approval of Minutes:
November 21, 2012
MOTION
by Commissioner Oquist to approve the minutes as presented. Seconded by
Commissioner Sielaff.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PUBLIC HEARING
1. Consideration of a Text Amendment, TA #12-03, by the City of Fridley, to consider
updated language changes in the R-1, R-2, and S-1 Residential Zoning Code sections
regarding allowable home businesses.
MOTION
by Commissioner Saba to open the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner
Oquist.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC
HEARING WAS OPENED AT 7:04 P.M.
Julie Jones,
Planning Manager, stated, currently, the restrictions for home businesses are listed
in the “Definitions” section of the Zoning Code, which is odd. The City’s legal counsel has
never been comfortable with this format and would prefer to see the actual requirements in the
body of the particular zoning section.
Ms. Jones
stated that staff is recommending amending the R-1, R-2, and the Hyde Park sections
of residential zoning, putting the language under “Permitted Uses.” Right now, home occupation
is listed in those Code sections under permitted accessory uses, but the requirements of a home
occupation are back in the definition sections, making people jump back to a different section to
determine what is allowed. For the convenience of on-line code viewing, staff does not want
viewers to have to jump back and forth from section to section. They want to list requirements
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in one spot.
Ms. Jones
stated the way the Code is written has effectively protected the residential character of
neighborhoods, but could be better. One proposed change is including the word, “owner” in the
definition. Right now it refers to “occupant,” and the City has had cases where the owner is
conducting the home occupation but is not an occupant of the residence.
Ms. Jones
stated that staff also added a reference to noise, odor, heat, and some other things the
Code currently does not specifically spell out. The City has had some cases where there has been
an issue of odor or noise affecting the residential character of the property.
Ms. Jones
stated also the City has had a lot of cases where people are using their garage for their
home business and, therefore, there is no place to store the vehicles related to the home. Staff
wanted to make it very clear, that the term “accessory structure” includes your garage.
Ms. Jones
stated another improvement includes permitting one non-occupant employee. Right
now, the Code states only one first-degree relative is allowed to be an employee in a home
business. It has been kind of difficult for staff to go in and determine who is a first-degree
relative. It would be easier to determine if they live there. Other cities have allowed this. Staff
researched and used applicable language from other city codes to refine Fridley’s.
Ms. Jones
stated the only significant change staff proposed is that equipment not normally found
in a home can be installed for a home occupation. This means special equipment for a
commercial kitchen or special HVAC systems necessary for a beauty salon that do hair
treatments would not be permitted. She said staff debated this point as they knew of a home
commercial kitchen for a cake baking business, and it did not seem to be a problem. But, staff
felt a business with a commercial kitchen would typically impact the neighborhood.
Ms. Jones
stated where staff had some concerns and debate about the above was beauty shops in
the home. If you are doing a lot of hair treatment, the State Building Code or some other State
licensing authority requires you to have a special HVAC system, because there are a lot of
chemicals being used. With what staff is proposing here, that use would not be allowed. Staff is
not aware of any home salon that would be impacted by this change. Staff is aware that some
home barber shops exist, but are unfamiliar with the intensity of their work.
Ms. Jones
clarified staff’s concern about suddenly making someone’s business a code violation
that was not previously. The general consensus among staff is that it is too risky to allow a
commercial kitchen in a residence.
Ms. Jones
stated the commercial parking regulations are in Section 506 of City Code and are not
in the Zoning Code. Staff wanted to repeat those requirements in the Home Occupation section.
Ms. Jones
stated staff added a sign limitation reference.
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Commission Oquist
asked what about the signage that is just in your window?
Ms. Jones
replied, the Code says you are allowed to have up to a 4-square foot sign attached to
the home.
Commissioner Saba
asked about signs attached to a vehicle?
Ms. Jones
replied that such a situation would be addressed in revisions to the sign code, which
Ms. Stromberg is working on currently.
Ms. Jones
stated another change is reducing the number of students allowed in the home.
Currently, code allows for six students at a time. Staff felt that did not match the requirement of
no more than two parking stalls needed at any given time for customers. Therefore, staff reduced
the allowable student number to four, which also seemed to be the standard in other cities.
Ms. Jones
stated that current code provides specific daycare requirements, but since that is all
regulated by the State and is subject to change, staff changed the language referring to the State
requirements.
Ms. Jones
stated current code states no retail sales are allowed. For example, if someone who
cuts hair in the home would not be allowed to sell shampoo or hair product.
Commissioner Saba
asked what about people selling things such as Pampered Chief products,
Tupperware, etc.?
Ms. Jones
replied, residents can have that in the home. They just cannot use their garage to
store product. Most of those businesses are where people are having parties at other homes and
the product gets delivered.
Ms. Jones
stated another improvement proposed in the Code would be adding an allowance for
mail order and internet businesses.
Ms. Jones
stated staff established garage sale limitations. Staff came up with allowing no more
than ten days of garage sales in a 12-month period.
Ms. Jones
stated one of the most common home occupation violations is vehicle repair, so staff
added clear language on prohibiting vehicle repair. Also, staff proposes limiting deliveries and
truck traffic.
Ms. Jones
stated the code sections which would be affected by this text amendment are R-1,
Single Family Residential, R-2 Two-Family Residential, and S-1 Hyde Park Neighborhood.
Right now these are the three sections of the Zoning Code that allow Home Occupations as an
accessory use. No permit is required. Staff only has about a dozen illegal home occupation
cases a year, but those cases consume a great deal of staff time. Because a home business is
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someone’s livelihood, they often refuse to immediately stop activity.
Ms. Jones
stated for those people who are honest and want to follow the rules, the Code
limitations will be clearly written in the applicable zoning section of code and viewable online.
Ms. Jones
stated that staff wants to protect the residential character of R-1, R-2, and Hyde Park
neighborhoods, and support home businesses that can reasonably be accessory to the main
function of the home as a residence.
Ms. Jones
stated staff has not received any inquiries or comments on this proposed text
amendment. The purpose of this hearing is to give the public an opportunity to comment. A
public hearing will also be held on the proposed ordinance on January 7, 2013 at the City
Council level.
Commissioner Oquist
stated one thing that is a little questionable is regarding mechanical
equipment that is not necessarily found in a home. That could be an argument. However, he
does not know how they should deal with it.
Ms. Jones
agreed that particular proposed requirement was the only one that staff had some
debate about in their discussions.
Commissioner Oquist
stated because you could buy a nice six-burner stove that is for the home.
It is not necessarily a commercial stove.
Ms. Jones
stated commercial stoves are very expensive and it is not common they would see
those. There was one case where a home was built specifically for this and was designed to have
a commercial kitchen because they did cake decorating. That business is no longer there in the
home. However, that was the only case staff could think of where the Building Official knew
where someone had put in a commercial kitchen.
Commissioner Oquist
questioned what if he is a chef and wants to cook in a commercial-style
kitchen in his home but does not plan on doing it as a business.
Ms. Jones
replied, that would not be considered a home occupation if you are not doing it for a
profit.
Commissioner Oquist
stated he thinks everything else covers what the staff is attempting to do.
MOTION
by Commissioner Saba to close the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner
Oquist.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC
HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 7:28 P.M.
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Chairperson Kondrick
stated he did not have any problems with this. The staff did a thorough
job.
Chairperson Saba
stated he agrees it was a lot of work.
MOTION
by Commissioner Saba approvingText Amendment, TA #12-03, by the City of
Fridley, to consider updated language changes in the R-1, R-2, and S-1 Residential Zoning Code
sections regarding allowable home businesses. Seconded by Commissioner Velin.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PUBLIC HEARING
2. Consideration of a Text Amendment, TA #12-04, by the City of Fridley, to consider
renumbering and code language updates to Section 205.30 of the Fridley Zoning
Code in addition to a map of the existing approved locations for telecommunications
facilities being added to Appendix A.
MOTION
by Commissioner Oquist to open the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner
Saba.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC
HEARING WAS OPENED AT 7:30 P.M.
Ms. Jones
stated that online code viewing is prompted staff to realize that a map is needed on
the City Web Site of the approved sites. What is available is just a listing of locations by name of
business. There is no listing of address or PIN number. What is happening now is folks in the
industry who are looking to fill gaps in their coverage area want to go on the City's website and
look at a map. For example, one may go in and say they need more coverage in the northwest
part of Fridley. They would want to see what options are in that area of the City.
Ms. Jones
stated thatthe sites that are mapped are the sites that were originally selected because
they are locations less intrusive to residential areas and tend to be locations where there are
already structures that are high, such as water towers, power lines, or industrial-commercial
areas. There are 15 approved sites in the Code.
Ms. Jones
stated besides creating the map, staff also updated the list with addresses and PIN's
added.
Ms. Jones
stated the advantage of a map is it visually shows coverage areas of the approved sites
when locating new towers or equipment. This will allow telecommunication providers to
research that information quickly on-line without having to contact a staff person to answer their
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questions. It really helps eliminate confusion where oftentimes someone is calling and is from
out of state.
Ms. Jones
stated the disadvantage of putting this map out there is that it does not show those
sites that have been approved by special use permit since the original approved sites were put in
place. Nor are they showing those sites that existed before the Code went into effect in 1997.
Staff is in the process of creating a different map that will show that as well and will be deciding
if they will put that on the web as it would have to be updated with every special use permit.
Chairperson Kondrick
asked whether staff has considered other locations in the City other than
those already authorized?
Ms. Jones
replied, no, they have not because, if you look at the map, you can see how they are
geographically scattered across the City. It really has served the City well. There are sites that
have been approved by special use permit in addition to those sites for various reasons but, for
the most part, when someone calls and wants to argue that some particular location is not
covered by an approved site, they end up deciding to go on one of the approved sites.
Commissioner Oquist
asked, why do they need two maps and why not just add special use
permit sites to the approved site map?
Ms. Jones
replied, because they are not the original approved sites. They really only want
people to go to those approved sites instead of picking new ones.
Commissioner Oquist
stated the existing map is the existing approved sites, but he still does not
understand why not just combine them?
Ms. Jones
stated for the technicality of having this on-line and this being the Code and those
sites that are approved by the Code, they felt it was important to separate the two. Generally
staff tries to direct persons to the approved sites first.
Commissioner Oquist
stated they are trying to separate the approved sites from the special use
permit sites, and you really want to do that with two different maps.
Ms. Jones
replied, right.
Commissioner Sielaff
asked what about just using GPS to view them according to address?
Ms. Jones
replied, that she did not know if that was feasible, but she would ask the question.
Chairperson Kondrick
asked if she could look into that.
Ms. Jones
stated staff did not want the City to incur the expense of a text amendment to change
the map every time an SUP for a new telecommunications site was approved, so it would be
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good to keep the maps separate and they can deal with that internally.
Ms. Jones
stated staff went through the telecommunications overlay code language word for
word and other things staff proposes changing include:
Inserting the effective date of the original ordinance
Referring to Chapter 128 for removal procedures
Clarify the need for a scalable site plan
Clarify that tower heights can be less than 125 feet
Commissioner Oquist
asked why do they have the application for automatic meter reading
devices in this particular overlay district?
Ms. Jones
stated that was a text amendment made after the original Code was passed.
Commissioner Oquist
stated but essentially it has nothing to do with telecommunications.
Ms. Jones
stated that is where they put it in the Code. There was some fear that some private
company was going to want to come in and install these devices and staff wanted to address it in
the Code. It really has not come to fruition.
Chairperson Kondrick
asked what is it they are metering? Things like the City's water meters?
What is important that they may want to meter off these towers?
Ms. Jones
replied, the technology they were referring to is not necessarily going to go on the
towers. It was some technology sounding like it would go on light poles. She got the impression
it was not at all related to the automatic meter reading the City was going to have.
Chairperson Kondrick
stated the point is the City of Fridley wants to have control over who is
metering and what they are metering, is that accurate?
Ms. Jones
she assumes that is the purpose they were trying to achieve.
MOTION
by Commissioner Saba to close the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner
Oquist.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC
HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 7:43 P.M.
Chairperson Kondrick
stated he has no problems with this. Again, the staff did a great job. He
read the whole thing. His questions were answered. The map on the back does explain where
the locations of the different facilities are and why they are located there.
MOTION
by Commissioner Oquist approving Text Amendment, TA #12-04, by the City of
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Fridley, to consider renumbering and code language updates to Section 205.30 of the Fridley
Zoning Code in addition to a map of the existing approved locations for telecommunications
facilities being added to Appendix A. Seconded by Commissioner Sielaff.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PUBLIC HEARING
3. Consideration of a Text Amendment TA #12-05, by the City of Fridley, to consider
corrections to automatic meter reading and telecommunications permit fees in
Chapter 11 of Fridley City Code.
MOTION
by Commissioner Oquist to open the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner
Velin.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC
HEARING WAS OPENED AT 7:43 P.M.
Ms. Jones
stated currently somehow the fees that were approved by one of the text amendments
previous to this Code section never got put in Chapter 11, and in all these years nobody had
noticed it although the City has been charging the fees all along. Except for the AMR fee that
has never come to fruition.
Chairperson Kondrick
asked how did staff determine what those fees might be for Fridley?
Ms. Jones
stated those are the fees that were approved back in a 1997 text amendment.
Chairperson Kondrick
asked whether the City is competitive or are they over or under?
Ms. Jones
replied, she has not researched that, because Fridley’s fees are based upon staff time.
Commissioner Oquist
asked if the City will have to pay $25 per house to change the water
meters? That is something that will need to be clarified. They started that changeover.
Ms. Jones
stated it was per piece of equipment install on each light pole.
Chairperson Kondrick
stated it does say $25 per facility. It is not noted on here, and he asked
could they charge it once a year?
Ms. Jones
stated it would be a one-time installation fee.
Chairperson Kondrick
stated it should say that.
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Ms. Jones
stated what was originally approved for the telecommunications fee was to have two
different fees, one $400 and one $500. One was for approving co-locating on an existing tower
and, ironically, that was the higher fee of $500. The $400 was for locating on an approved site.
Staff did not see any reason why the fees should be different so they went with the lower rate.
Chairperson Kondrick
stated he thinks this is okay other than specifying the installation fee is a
one-time deal.
Commissioner Oquist
stated staff may want to look into changing that "$25 per facility." He
thinks some of that should be defined a little better than that. Technically his house is a facility;
therefore, there is $25 fee for changing that meter.
MOTION
by Commissioner Oquist to close the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner
Saba.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC
HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 7:52 P.M.
MOTION
by Commissioner Saba to approve Text Amendment TA #12-05, by the City of
Fridley, to consider corrections to automatic meter reading and telecommunications permit fees
in Chapter 11 of Fridley City Code. Seconded by Commissioner Oquist.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Receive the Minutes of the November 1, 2012, Housing and Redevelopment
4.
Authority Commission Meeting.
MOTION
by Commissioner Oquist to receive the Minutes. Seconded by Commissioner Saba.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. Receive the Minutes of the October 1, 2012, Parks and Recreation Commission
Meeting.
MOTION
by Commissioner Velin to receive the Minutes. Seconded by Commissioner Sielaff.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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OTHER BUSINESS:
Ms. Jones
stated the City officially received a livable communities TOD grant from the
Metropolitan Council for a master plan for the TIF District in the area south of the train station to
the freeway from Main Street west to the river. Staff will be working on that for the next two
years.
Chairperson Kondrick
asked, what was the amount?
Ms. Jones
replied, $100,000. Really they need to double that to do the project, but somehow
they are going to try and work with that. It will involve a lot of staff time.
Chairperson Kondrick
asked when they gave the City the grant did they provide an expectation
list?
Ms. Jones
replied that staff will be learning more in a meeting at the Metropolitan Council in
January.
ADJOURN
MOTION
by Commissioner Saba adjourning the meeting. Seconded by Commissioner Sielaff
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE MEETING
ADJOURNED AT 8:01 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Denise M. Johnson
Recording Secretary