VAR 06.23.78Mr• Holden showed the Commission an aerial view of the area in
question.
Mr. Holden cautioned the Gunnick's about the water table in the
area. He told them to use precautions in planning their basement.
MOTION by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Barna, to close the Public
Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. The Public Hearing was closed at 7:54 P.M.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to approve the request
for variance to the Firdley City Code, Section 205.053,4,C, to reduce the
required rear yard setback from 34 Feet 11/4 of the lot depth} to 21.6
Feet, to allow the construction of a house and garage on the South
135± Feet of Lot 22, Block 2, Spring Lake Park Lakeside, The same being
7677 Arthur Street NE, Fridley, Minnesota. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
2. REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, SECTION 205.053,4,C,
TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED REAR YARD SETBACK FROM 28.27 FEET to 10 FEET
TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING HOUSE ON
LOT 3, BLOCK 5, RICE CREEK TERRACE ADDITION, THE SAME BEING
6760 MADISON STREET NE, FRIDLEY, MN.
{REQUEST BY MR. & MRS. GERALD D. BETHEL, 6760 MADISON STREET NE,
FRIDLEY, MN}.
Chairperson Schnabel explained that it had been requested that they hear
the request that evening even though Public Notices had not been sent
out and the request had not been published. She said that the petitioner
received from City Hall a list of the people that would be the effected
property owners. The petitioner went to the property owners and asked
them to sign a notice of public hearings. She read the petition wording
into Public Record, "We the undersigned waive our rights to the traditional
ten day notice of public hearing for variance request on a property
located near the corner of Jefferson and Madison Streets NE, the address
being 6760 Madison Street NE. Legally described as follows: Lot 3,
Block 5, Rice Creek Terrace Plat 6. The variance request is to Code
Section 205.053,4,C, to reduce the required rear yard setback from
28.27 feet to ten feet. We understand that this matter will be presented
before the May 23, 1978, meeting of the Board of Appeals and there will
be a Public Hearing. Our signature here does not necessarily mean our
approval of this request, but merely notification of the Public Hearing."
Ms. Schnabel indicated that 26 people had signed the petition.
Mr. Kemper wanted to know why the request was proceeding in this
manner.
Mr. Bethel said that it was due to a misunderstanding on his part.
He said he wasn't aware that a variance had to be obtained. He said that
he had already contracted with a person to dig the basement, however, the
equipment broke down and the work hadn't been completed. He said that he
didn't want to have to wait until the middle of June because the person
had the equipment repaired and would be able to start work around the first
part of June. He pointed out that the Appeals Commission's next meeting
wasn't until June 13, 1978.
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Mr. Bethel indicated that he planned to subcontract the work on
the addition. He said that the process of sub -contracting was usually
time consuming. He wanted to be able to have enough time to have the
addition completed by winter. He said that he'didn°t want to start,
any type of scheduling of the contractors until he had final approval.
Mrs. Bethel said that she had taken the petition around to the
neighbors. She said that she explained exactly what the petition was
saying as well as asked each person to read the petition before signing..
She said that she brought the plans along with her and showed it to
the people. She said that the only person that had showed concern was
a neighbor who was to the back of their property. She said that he was
relieved when he saw the plans. She said that presently when anyone
used the rear door, they looked directly on the neighbors deck. She
said that in the new plans, that rear door would be -moved and the entire
wall would be solid with a fireplace. She said that the neighbor liked
the plans. She said that she indicated to each person that they
should appear at the Public Hearing if they had any questions or concerns
Mr. Kemper said that he had a problem with the manner the request
was being put through the process. He did not feel that the Appeals
Commission should have final approval on this type of hurry -up request.
He said that he realized that the Appeals Commission did have authority
to act on R-1 requests; however, he said that the approval was given
to the Commission by City Council with the intent that there would be
due process and an appropriate length of time for publication and
notification. .
Chairperson Schnabel explained to the Bethel's that the Appeals
Commission was authorized and governed only to act under certain rules
which the City had established. She said it was for the protection of
property owners adjacent to areas where variances were being requested.
She said that the Appeals Commission was not allowed to circumvent those
situations. She said it was not in their discretion to have people
appear before the Board on the evening of the meeting with a request
without having some prior notification given to the adjacent property owners.
Ms. Schnabel felt that the notice that Ms. Bethel took through the
neighborhood was specific in that it did indicate that a public hearing
would be held on May 23, 1978. She said it had also been evident in
the notice that by signing the petition the people were aware of the
fact they were not giving their approval, only that they had been
properly notified.
Mr. Holden indicated that the neighbors actually got a personal
invitation to appear at a. Public Hearing regarding the variance request.
He felt it was probably more effective than the mailed xerox type of
notices.
Mr. Kemper said that the Appeals Commission mistakenly acted
on a previous request for variances handled in the like manner. He said
that the people had misrepresented their request to the neighbors and
the neighbors signed the petition and no one appeared at the Public Hearing.
He said that when the house was constructed, the neighbors were upset
because that was not what they had been told would be built on that
property. He did not feel the Appeals Commission should take the
responsibility of acting on the particular request because of the manner
it was being handled.
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Mr. Holden pointed out that
.request was,for an addition to an
request referred to was regarding
it was somewhat different in that the
already existing house. He said the
a new dwelling.
Chairperson Schnabel again explained to Mr. & Mrs. Bethel that
under normal cir.cumstances the Appeals Commission did have the final
approval -providing -that there was a unanimous decision by the Commission,
provided that Staff concurs with their decision, and provided that there
were no objections.from any of the adjacent neighbors. She said that
if any..: of the provisions were not met, then the item would have to
go on to the. City Council for their final decision. She said that
Mr. Kemper was questioning whether the Appeals Commission should
actually have the final decision in this type of situation. She
said he was concerned that all the adjacent neighbors were properly
notified.
Mrs. Bethel said that she understood what was being said. She
said that her major concern was the fact.that they did want to start
construction as soon as possible. She said that they had to work
around all the other contractor schedules and that it could be a timely
thing. She said that she did indeed tell each person that they were
only signing the petition to indicate that they had been notified of
the Public Hearing. She explained that they could voice any opinions
at the Public Hearing.
Mr.',Keml5er asked if any of the other members had the concern on
the item that he had.
Mr. Holden said that if the item was delayed until the June 13, 1978,
meeting, additional notices would not be sent out. He said the manner
that Mrs. Bethel handled the notification would surfice as official
notification , unless requested by the Commission to mail notices.
Mr. Barna said that he felt it would be within the Appeals
Commission's bounds to act on this item.
Ms. Gabel said that 'she was somewhat uncomfortable with the request.
However she said that it did clearly state in the petition that the
residents were waiving their rights to ten-day notice. She really felt
that people would pay more heed to the verbal notification than they
did to copy of the notice being sent to their houses.
Mr. Plemel said that the petition did seem clearly stated.
Chairperson Schnabel said that as a matter of practice she didn't
like to see the normal procedure bypassed. However, she did feel that
in the particular case the petitioners did present a very specific
petition. She felt much more comfortable with the particular request
being discussed than she had with previous requests that had been
handled in like manner.
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MOTION by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to open the Public
Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. The Public Hearing was opened at 8:30 P.M.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to receive the
petition indicating that the 26 neighbors had been notified of the
May 23, 19789 Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Schnabel indicated that all the names had been verified
by City Hall to be valid names.
Mr. Bethel explained to the Commission exactly what he planned to
do. He said that the point closest to the lot line would be
approximately 12 feet.
Mr. Bethel -had a set of actual plans to show to the Commission.
He also had a verified survey.
Mr. Holden showed an aerial -view map of the area in question.
Chairperson Schnabel said that the Bethel's stated hardship on
the application had been, "Planned family size had increased since the
home had been purchased in 1967, resulting in inadequate space in the
kitchen, eating area, and family room. We could not find adequate home
we could afford, and we did not want to move out of Fridley."
Chairperson Schnabel. asked if there would be full basement under
the addition,
Mrs. Bethel said that there would be a full basement under the
proposed addition.
Chairperson Schnabel asked what percent lot coverage would result
with the proposed addition.
Mr. Holden said that it would result in 21% lot coverage.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Barna, to close the
Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously. The Public Hearing was closed at 8:47 P.M.
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MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr. Barna, to approve the request
for variance to the Fridley City Code Section 205.053,4,C, to reduce
the required rear yard setback from 2A.27 feet to 12 feet, to allow
the construction of an addition to an existing house on Lot 3, Block 5,
Rice Creek Terrace Addition, the same being 6760 Madison Street NE,
Fridley, -MN. Upon',a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
3. OTHER BUSINESS
Chairperson Schnabel explained what had transpired at the
Planning Commission regarding the Energy Commission. She said that
it was planned to put a notice in the paper indicating the formation
of an Energy Commission and asking any person in Fridley that had
some knowledge and interest in the Energy issue to submit a resume to
City Hall for consideration. She said that the item had been continued
to the Planning Commission's next meeting at which time the goals and
objectives would be set and resumes would be considered.
Mr. Holden said that that an article for the Newsletter would
be submitted to the Appeals Commission for their approval regarding
required setbacks, etc. He felt that it would be helpful if the
people in Fridley were made aware of exactly what they had to do if
they planned to put additions onto to their existing homes as well
as the procedures that had to be met to construct a new dwelling.
Mr. Plemel was concerned about the excessive signage located at
the Caballero. He said it was starting to look "tacky".
Ms. Gabel agreed. She said that there were too many signs located
at that corner (Osborne Road & University Avenue).
Mr. Holden said that he would forward their comments onto to
Mr. Boardman.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Barnal to adjourn the
May 23, 19781 Appeals Commission meeting. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the meeting was adjourned at 9;00 P.M,
Respectfully submitted,
MaryLee Carhill
Recording Secretary
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