SP80-13M - c,
ADDRESS AM LEGAL DESCRIPTION: 945 Mississippi Street N.E. Lot 8, A.S. #21
S. STIPULATIONS (List): DATE REQUIRED 3/16/81 DATE COMPI TED
The existing storage shed be moved to the rear of the lot by the time the new
garage is completed
I. MISCELLANEOUS:
CONSTRUCTION DATE:
ADDITIONS:
CERTIFICATE OF 000UPANCY ISSUED:
YES NO DATE
A.
ZONING ACTION:
I ORDIN A24M NO:
B.
SPECIAL USE PERMIT(S): # 80-13,
second accessory building (shed
1st one)
C.
IAT SPLIT (S) : #
D.
VACATION(S): #
ORDINANCE NO:
E.
VARIANCES
APPEALS COMISSION: APPROVED
DISAPPROVED DATE
NO.
CITY COUNCIL: APPROVED
DISAPPROVED DATE
NO.
F.
EASEMENTS: REQ'D
DEPT
RECD
Bikeway/walkway
.
Street right-of-way
Utility
Drainage
Alley
Other (Specify)
G.
LICENSE(S) (List):
Date of Renewal:
S. STIPULATIONS (List): DATE REQUIRED 3/16/81 DATE COMPI TED
The existing storage shed be moved to the rear of the lot by the time the new
garage is completed
I. MISCELLANEOUS:
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 4, 1981
CALL TO ORDER:
Chaff man Harris declared the March 4, 1981, /7:46
ion meeting to
order t 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present. Mr. Harris, Ms. Schnabel ( Mr. Svanda,
. Oquist, Ms. Hughes
Members Absent: Mr. Tr enfels, Mr. Wh ton
Others Present: Jerrold Boar an, ty Planner
Bill Deblon, A iate Planner
Ron Miller, 94 'ssissippi St. N.E.
Paul Gaydos, 607 - 7th Ave. N.E., Apt. 207, Mpls.
David Menk 2200 Mi and Gr. Rd., Unit 307, Roseville (55113)
Anthony & osella Pikus, 4036 Main St. N.E.
George eiskal, 4050 Main St. N.E.
Donal Archer,4057 Madison t. N.E.
Jan ertrand, 4042 Main St. N.
S Waldhauser, 6120 - 7th St. N.
APPROVAL OF F UARY 25, 1981, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY Xkl. OQUIST, SECONDED BY M. SVANDA, TO APPROVE THE FEBR -Y 25, 1981,
PLANNING XOMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CANTED
UN IMOUSLY.
1.. CONTINUED: PUBLIC'HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, -SP #80-13,_
BY WALTER J. MILLER: Per Section 205.051, 2, A, to allow an existing
accessory building 14 ft. by 20 ft. to be moved to the rear of the property
and be used for a storage shed, and a new detached garage, 24 ft. by 30 ft.
to be constructed on Lot 8, Revised Auditor's Subdivision No. 21, the same
being 945 Mississippi Street N.E.
Public Hearing open.
Mr. Boardman stated this item was continued from the February 4 Planning
Commission meeting. The Commission had requested it be continued, because
Mr. Arthur Miller was not in attendance at that meeting. He stated Ron Miller,
Arthur Miller's son, was in the audience if the Commission had any questions.
Ms. Hughes asked Mr. Miller what the storage shed was to be used for.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 4, 1981 PAGE 2
Mr. Miller stated'it would be used for storage of a lawn tractor and antique
furniture.
Mr. Harris stated that the size of the new garage was almost the same size as
the house. What was the reason for this large a garage?
Mr. Miller stated they thought it was a nice garage size and was what they needed.
He stated the garage will be used to house two vehicles, plus lawn and garden
equipment. They have a large garden. He stated that as far as any other uses,
there would not be any.
(Ms. Schnabel arrived at 7:46 p.m.)
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Boardman to explain to Mr. Miller the City's conditions on
home occupations.
Mr. Boardman stated that the City of Fridley does not allow any gainful home
occupations to be operated out of accessory buildings. Home occupations can
only be operated out of the actual family unit itself. This is one of the City's
concerns when they have this type of accessory building, especially now when a
lot of people are having to go toward home occupations to make additional income.
Mr. Miller stated his father is a truck driver and is on the road most of the
time. He would not be operating a home occupation.
Ms. Hughes asked if Mr. Miller had asked any of the neighbors if there were any
objections.
Mr. Miller stated they have very good relationships with their neighbors, and
they have talked to their neighbors. He stated that none of the neighbors
objected to this; in fact, he thought they would like it.
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MOTION BY MS. HUGHES, SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SP #80-13 BY WALTER J. MILLER.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED AT 7:52 P.M.
Ms. Hughes stated the only concern she would have is that the storage shed be
moved to the back of the lot at the same time the garage is being built. It
would be easy not to move that shed, and she felt it was important that the shed
be moved. Moving the shed to the back of the lot removed the possibility of
a lot of things, and the shed would not be accessible to other vehicles.
PLANNING COMMSSION MEETING, MARCH 4, 1981 PAGE 3
MOTION BY MS. HUGHES, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #80-13, BY WALTER J. MILLER: PER SECTION
205.051, 2, A, TO ALLOW AN EXISTING ACCESSORY BUILDING 14 FT. BY 20 FT. TO BE
MOVED TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AND BE USED FOR A STORAGE SHED, AND A NEW
DETACHED GARAGE, 24 FT. BY 30 FT. TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON LOT 8, REVISED AUDITOR'S
SUBDIVISION NO. 21, THE SAME BEING 945 MISSISSIPPI STREET N.E., WITH THE
STIPULATION THAT THE EXISTING STORAGE SHED BE MOVED TO THE REAR OF THE LOT BY
THE TIME THE NEW GARAGE IS COMPLETED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Harris stated this item would go to City Council on March 16.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
-�,SP #81-01, BY PAUL GAYDOS AND DAVID MENhEN: Per Section 205.053, ,2,, D, to
aow a single family dwelling to be converted to a two family elling,
loca d on Lots 2 and 3, Block 1, Berlin Addition, /saameIng 4042 Main
Street E.
MOTION BY MR. IST, SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA, TO OPEN TEARING ON
SP #81-01 BY PAUL AYDOS AND DAVID MENKEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS �CLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING
OPEN AT 7:58 P.M. /
Mr. Boardman stated this is reque;ropoerty
t tcony t a present single family structure
into a two-family structure. is s located on Main Street in the
southern end of Fridley. Across the stre is Columbia Heights. He stated that
the general make-up of the neighbo ood s single family except for a triplex
and a duplex located at 4030 and 402'Vain St. N.E.
Mr. Boardman stated that, accordi to t1W zoning Code, this conversion would
be an allowed use with a spec ia use permi He stated the petitioners, Mr. Gaydos
and Mr. Menken were in the au once.
Mr. Harris asked if the pitioners wished to maims a statement.
Mr. Gaydos stat/thiis a Capp split-1evel home co tructed in 1966. It has
1,040 sq. ft. oloor, and'to convert it, all th is needed is to convert
the laundry rooitchen on the lower floor. There e already two
separate entran
Ms. Bertrans stated she is the present owner. This house was co structed as a
single fan' y home, and they have completely finished off both f rs. Both
upstairs and downstairs have two bedrooms and a bath. It is just a atter of
convey ing the storage and laundry room into a kitchen and closing of the wall
are to the downstairs.
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REGULAR MEETING ;OF MARCH 16, 1981
MOTIONCon ci l man S
Commissi `Meeting of
Upon a v e vote, all
unanim sl .
2 REC;QIVING Tik MINUTES' OF
CONSIDERATION OF SP
2 A ACCESSORY BUILDING
ide to receive
ua&y 25, 1981.
ting 'aye, Mayor N
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n tes of the Pl nnin
ed by Councilman\B3,41nette.
lared the motion arried
SSION VETING OF MARCH 4,\19131:
D ,inn -11_ Tn Atl_GW AN EXISTING
Mr. Flora, Public Works Director, stated this property, is in an R-1 zoning
district and the applicant is proposing to relocate an existing garage to
the rear of the lot to be used for storage of a lawn tractor and antique
furniture and to construct a new garage.
Mr. Flora stated the Planning Commission considered this request and has
recommended approval with the stipulation that the existing storage shed
be moved to the rear of the lot by the time the new garage is completed.
Councilwoman Moses asked if there was anything in the code which addresses
the size of the garage in comparison with the size of the house. Mr. Flora
stated they have requirement for a total size accessory building and this is
within the appropriate limits.
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to concur with the recommendation of the
Planning Commission and grant Special Use Permit #80-13, with the stipulation
that the existing storage shed be moved to the rear of the lot by the time
the new garage is completed. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Miller stated he was present representing his father and asked the
procedure from this point. Mr. Flora stated he should come in to the City
Hall for a building permit.
CONSIDERATION Ot A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP 81-01 TO ALLOW A SINGLE
2B PAm11Y nWELLING TO BE CONVERTED TO A TWO FAMILY DWELLING, 4042 �ATN
lora, Public orks Director stated his property is locate on Main
just in th south boundar of Fri ley. H stated the re uest is to
conver a presen single family tructu a into a wo-family st ucture. He
stated owners pl n on splitting u iliixes and hav g separate meters and
they will live q one level and r nt out the lower level. g
I r.
Mr. Flor stat d the Planning Comm'sAion felt the s ectal se permit
provides ette control by the�Cit since if anythi g hap ened to the
structure th zoning would still r ain as an R-1 u e, i stead of having
the prope ty ezoned to R-2. r
Mr. Flora s° ted three persons oprose this request fo the special use
permit becad a they felt it was n ex ansion of the R- oning in their area.
Mr. Flora s a d, after discus on by a Planning Co is ion, it was
recommende th request for a pecial u e permit be ppro d with the
following tip lations: (1) hat the n owners wor with the Fire
Marshall o the appropriate its for th units; an (2) Th t the new
owners ob ain th proper pe its to cons uct the ownstairs kitchen area.
Councilm Schnei r asked f all the home in th'S area on Ma n Street
were to onvert to uplexe , if the water a d ser system woul be able
to handl the additi al capacity. He feet'this may be a trend in the future
and, if 't happened throughout the City, he was concerned if the would have
problem .
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REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 16, 1981 PAGE 4 j
Mr. Flora stated it woul depend on the location of the main lines, however,
in this particular case, it would be adequate.
CounIan
Fitzpatrick stated there is some R-2 zoning fn C lumbi Heights
southis locatio and, to his ow edge, it isn't ver close. e
statsituation s that everything: orth of.this res dance is R 1 -up
to 4ncluding a number of very fine omes, and eve thing south f
thision,'exceqq for two proporties, 's zoned' -R-1 He further st ted
propacross tie street from this loo tion, even hough zoned R-2
in Cs Height ,are used as R-1.
CounMos asked Mr. Gaydos and Mr. Nt nke if they would live in th
top half And ren out the lower level. Mr. G d stated it looks like t
will have to be that way for at least a year, ever, they would like to,,
eventually``hav their own unit.11
Councilwoman oses pointed out communities seeing a lot of people b yi` g
homes jointly. and feels this will be a tre wher�people will combine to
find afford, le housing.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated there wer a few refer noes that this as a
large hou a and ant itself into bean divided into o units. He p anted
out it i not a 1 ge house, but"a s all house, howev , it does ha e a
finishe basement.
Ha sta ed there is 1, OO square feet of living space on ne floo and the
finis ed basement.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated he agrees with the comment made by Councilwoman
Moses, but the cost of any decedit home at all is relatively expensive. He
stated he suspected the cost of this home was not highe;bable
what would be
expected, and perhaps among th lower prices of housingable.
Councilwoman Moses asked if ouncilman F atrick's pothat they
bought t home as a single/Family res' enc and should to afford
it as a sin a family home. Councilman Fitz trick stas point is
that it reall isn't a lar a house.
Councilwoman Mo es state this split entry des gn is ery conductive to
conversion. She ointe out it is getting imp ssibl for people o afford
housing, however, if th s was :pproved it woul set a precedent.
Mr. Gaydoes asked if a size f the lot wouldn t imit future R-1 proper y
being converted to - Mr. Flora stated a spec 1 use permit can b`e ap lied
for in any zone and here is a system for zonin `for types of densities
He stated the quest'o here is if the Council lbws a single family `d elling
to be used by two s pa ate•families, with a s eci�l use permit, versu
irezoning a particu ar 1 t to a larger densit .
Councilman Schnei er stat d he is sympathe c to th petitioners, owe er,
the problem is r ghly the 9,000 other ho s in the ity where th se pe sons
have purchased h mes specifically based the conte t of so '/nee
nd
one fainuly per nit. He felt the Counc' owes prote ion to th people who
assumed the zon ng code would stand a if they bough ip an R zoning
district, they would have R-1 ousin in that district. k�e s ated he kn s
this 4oesn't a dress the proble of he housing costs.
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Counc4woman oses stated Frey not an area where there is a large
turnover` as people get older, they won't be able to move because there
aren't small enough units or small enough payments Where it would be possibl
for them to move. She felt they will be facing the same dilemma and it is
a critical problem everyone is facing.
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REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 16, 1981 PAGE 4 j
Mr. Flora stated it woul depend on the location of the main lines, however,
in this particular case, it would be adequate.
CounIan
Fitzpatrick stated there is some R-2 zoning fn C lumbi Heights
southis locatio and, to his ow edge, it isn't ver close. e
statsituation s that everything: orth of.this res dance is R 1 -up
to 4ncluding a number of very fine omes, and eve thing south f
thision,'exceqq for two proporties, 's zoned' -R-1 He further st ted
propacross tie street from this loo tion, even hough zoned R-2
in Cs Height ,are used as R-1.
CounMos asked Mr. Gaydos and Mr. Nt nke if they would live in th
top half And ren out the lower level. Mr. G d stated it looks like t
will have to be that way for at least a year, ever, they would like to,,
eventually``hav their own unit.11
Councilwoman oses pointed out communities seeing a lot of people b yi` g
homes jointly. and feels this will be a tre wher�people will combine to
find afford, le housing.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated there wer a few refer noes that this as a
large hou a and ant itself into bean divided into o units. He p anted
out it i not a 1 ge house, but"a s all house, howev , it does ha e a
finishe basement.
Ha sta ed there is 1, OO square feet of living space on ne floo and the
finis ed basement.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated he agrees with the comment made by Councilwoman
Moses, but the cost of any decedit home at all is relatively expensive. He
stated he suspected the cost of this home was not highe;bable
what would be
expected, and perhaps among th lower prices of housingable.
Councilwoman Moses asked if ouncilman F atrick's pothat they
bought t home as a single/Family res' enc and should to afford
it as a sin a family home. Councilman Fitz trick stas point is
that it reall isn't a lar a house.
Councilwoman Mo es state this split entry des gn is ery conductive to
conversion. She ointe out it is getting imp ssibl for people o afford
housing, however, if th s was :pproved it woul set a precedent.
Mr. Gaydoes asked if a size f the lot wouldn t imit future R-1 proper y
being converted to - Mr. Flora stated a spec 1 use permit can b`e ap lied
for in any zone and here is a system for zonin `for types of densities
He stated the quest'o here is if the Council lbws a single family `d elling
to be used by two s pa ate•families, with a s eci�l use permit, versu
irezoning a particu ar 1 t to a larger densit .
Councilman Schnei er stat d he is sympathe c to th petitioners, owe er,
the problem is r ghly the 9,000 other ho s in the ity where th se pe sons
have purchased h mes specifically based the conte t of so '/nee
nd
one fainuly per nit. He felt the Counc' owes prote ion to th people who
assumed the zon ng code would stand a if they bough ip an R zoning
district, they would have R-1 ousin in that district. k�e s ated he kn s
this 4oesn't a dress the proble of he housing costs.
idl
Counc4woman oses stated Frey not an area where there is a large
turnover` as people get older, they won't be able to move because there
aren't small enough units or small enough payments Where it would be possibl
for them to move. She felt they will be facing the same dilemma and it is
a critical problem everyone is facing.
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' 6431 UNIVERSITY . AVENUE N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 65432
TELEPHONE .(612)571-3450
March 20, 1981
CITY rn"wjrTL
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Walter J. Miller
945 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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ACTION TAKE! NOTICE
1 16, 1981 the Fridley City.Council officially
equest for a Special Use Pe-rmit,'SP #8101 on*your'property
wizn .-gyne szi pu i ations t isteu below:
1. The existing storage shed be moved to the rear of the lot by the time the
new garage is completed.
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If you have'any questions regarding the above action, please call the
Community Development Office at 571-3450.
Sincerely,
E ..
RROLD L. LOMMIAN
jLE/de City Planner
Please review the noted stipulations, sign the statement below, and return
one copy to the City of Fridley.
Concur with it " i an La,en .
August 11, 1981
CITY OF FRIDLEY
6431 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432
TELEPHONE ( 612)571-3450
Mr. Ron Miller
945 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, NIDI 55432
Re: Garage Permit
Dear Mr. Miller:
Please be advised that the City will not issue the permit for the
second garage unless its height is reduced to one story, or it is
reconsidered by the City Planning Commission and City Council.
In reviewing the minutes of the action taken on your request, we
can find no evidence that the structure would have two levels of
use, therefore, we feel it must be re-evaluated by the Commission
and the Council.
Please call me with your intentions. We will hold your application
until we hear from you.
Si ely,
DARREL G. CLARK
Chief Building Official
DGC/mh
CC: Mr. Jerry Boardman, City Planner