CCM 03/09/2015
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF FRIDLEY
MARCH 9, 2015
The City Council meeting for the City of Fridley was called to order by Mayor Lund at 7:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mayor Lund
Councilmember Barnette
Councilmember Saefke
Councilmember Varichak
Councilmember Bolkcom
OTHERS PRESENT:
Wally Wysopal, City Manager
Darcy Erickson, City Attorney
Scott Hickok, Community Development Director
James Kosluchar, Public Works Director
Darin Nelson, Finance Director
Jack Kirk, Parks and Recreation Director
Bruce Carlson, Dorn Companies
Joseph Rickenbach, Embers
Todd Orsthun, TCO Design
APPROVAL OF PROPOSED CONSENT AGENDA:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
City Council Meeting of February 23, 2015
APPROVED.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. Receive the Minutes from the Planning Commission Meeting of February 18, 2015.
Councilmember Saefke
stated the year 2013 should be 2015.
Councilmember Varichak
stated the last name "Milton" should be "Melton".
RECEIVED AS CORRECTED.
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2. Claims (167404 -167559).
APPROVED.
3. Licenses.
APPROVED THE LICENSES AS SUBMITTED AND AS ON FILE.
OPEN FORUM:
No one from the audience spoke.
ADOPTION OF PROPOSED CONSENT AGENDA:
MOTION
by Councilmember Barnette to approve the proposed consent agenda. Seconded by
Councilmember Varichak.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA:
MOTION
by Councilmember Bolkcom to approve the agenda. Seconded by Councilmember
Saefke.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PUBLIC HEARING:
4. Consider a Rezoning Request, ZOA #15-01, by Alliant Engineering, Inc., on Behalf
of the Property Owners of 5300 and 5400 Central Avenue N.E., to Rezone the
Properties from C-3, General Shopping, to C-2, General Business, Generally
Located at 5300 and 5400 Central Avenue N.E. (Ward 1).
MOTION
by Councilmember Saefke to continue the public hearing. Seconded by
Councilmember Bolkcom.
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UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE HEARING WAS OPENED AT 7:08
P.M.
Scott Hickok,
Community Development Director, stated the request is to rezone the properties
at 5300 Central Avenue, the Super Stop, and also 5400 Central Avenue, Embers, from C-3,
General Shopping, to C-2, General Business. The reason for this request at this time is to allow
redevelopment of the property at 5300 Central Avenue.
Mr. Hickok
stated the current zoning of C-3 imposes requirements that make it difficult to
redevelop this site. For example, in a C-3 district, the minimum lot size is 35,000 square feet,
whereas, the minimum lot size in a C-2 district is 20,000 square feet. The Super Stop is 29,441
square feet and Embers is 31,423 square feet. Both of them fall short of the 35,000. They are
considered non-conforming uses, and by this rezoning, they will be brought into conformance.
Both parcels are more suitable for the C-2, General Business District.
Mr. Hickok
stated in 1981 the State of Minnesota filed a Quit Claim Deed to the City of Fridley
for the 80-foot piece of right-of-way that runs north and south, directly east of 5300 Central
Avenue. That was the right-of-way for Central Avenue at one time. The State determined they
no longer needed it and, as a result, it became City right-of-way. As they may recall, similar
things happened along Central Avenue and University Avenue. The State took away direct
access. At one time there was direct access to Embers and to this gas station; however, when
Central was redone several years ago, the 80-foot piece of right-of-way was used to access
Embers. They basically deeded that land over to the City of Fridley. Right now it is considered
additional land for the redevelopment of 5300.
Mr. Hickok
stated the existing gas station fuel pumps, canopies, and underground tanks will be
removed per MPCA regulations, similar to the Citgo site along University Avenue. All of the
same rules will apply, and it will be done properly.
Mr. Hickok
stated the new 6,048 square foot multi-tenant building is proposed to be constructed
in the north/south orientation along the western portion of the site Starbucks will occupy 2,200
square feet of building space; and the remainder of the building will be for retail space and
additional users.
Mr. Hickok
stated it is important for them to know Starbucks has a drive-thru and stacking for
13 cars, which was designed not to interfere with people entering or exiting Embers. Starbucks'
national average for maximum number of cars in the drive-thru stacking is 11 cars. A minute
and one-half at the window is the corporate customer service standard that controls stacking.
Eleven cars are as deep as they like to go. This plan allows for 13 cars to stack.
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Mr. Hickok
stated the project was designed to require the City to deem 80-feet right-of-way
access and authorize the sale thereof to that property in front of 5300 Central Avenue. This was
done in conjunction with early discussions with Jim Kosluchar, Public Works Director, and City
planning staff. That piece of property really does make the most sense to be joined with the
5300 address, but only after a permanent access easement is agreeable and put in place to
continue that access to the Embers site. Mr. Kosluchar has also indicated that the right-of-way is
not needed and has been a problematic area for maintenance and snowplowing.
Mr. Hickok
stated the proposal that was given by the developer and actually agreed upon by
both the developer and Embers is a proposal he presented, showing egress and an out, east/west
option.
Mr. Hickok
stated the City had a traffic study done for this segment between the Target entrance
and the intersection at 53rd and determined that this signal functions at a Level F. This is not an
ideal situation for redevelopment of the intersection; however, staff had a recommendation after
the traffic analysis that would make this somewhat better. That is to have ingress at the eastern
drive and an egress at the western drive. That out would allow you to go west. It would allow
you to go east also. However, for drivers coming from the west, going east, you could still come
in that frontage road area or the closest eastern drive. You could also make the corner from
Central and come in so there is a counterclockwise loop through the 5300 site or you could go
further into the Embers site and come back out.
Mr. Hickok
stated this proposal is not satisfactory with Joe Rickenbach, the owner of Embers.
He is not interested in having a one-way loop for a number of different reasons. He is concerned
about cars in line that would cause interference with people getting into his site, including trucks
delivering. He is also concerned that people exiting the site from the coffee drive-thru may
inconvenience the cars coming from Embers.
Mr. Hickok
stated it is really important to figure a solution to get cars out on the street. This
counterclockwise arrangement functions much like a new shopping center would if you had two
users using a one access drive.
Mr. Hickok
stated at the February 18, 2015, Planning Commission meeting, a public hearing
was held. After some discussion the Planning Commission recommended approval of the
rezoning as it is an overall better fit for the size and location of the properties. Remembering,
that all along University Avenue and Central Avenue, any of the turnback parcels that where
there that used to be frontage roads were pulled back and little teardrop parcels were created like
the Citgo site. All of them were zoned C-2. This would match that zoning. It makes sense at the
intersection to have the modified frontage design to do something in a C-2 character. The
Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of the rezoning.
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Mr. Hickok
stated Council is really acting on the public hearing, taking in comments for
rezoning. The first reading would be at the next meeting, and the second reading would be at the
following meeting. Council’s role is to hear the comments at the public hearing and to
understand that staff is not going to have Council deem the property excess and authorize sale
thereof of that 80-foot piece of property until they get the circulation worked out between the
property owners. There was some belief after the Planning Commission meeting, and two
members stated they did not mind that original access that they proposed that much, but there
was no formal action on the part of the Planning Commission to tell Council that is the best
solution. Frankly, staff is telling Council that is not the best solution.
Mr. Hickok
stated since that meeting there has been further discussions. The civil engineer for
the developer of 5300 has come up with a solution based on comments from staff. It is not
completely the counterclockwise loop, but it is somewhat of a compromise. It still allows people
to come into the Embers site and out of the Embers site in alignment very close to where the
original drive was. There is somewhat of a pork chop in the middle directing cars when they
come out to go west but they cannot go east. This would also allow ingress and an out
movement, and they can go east or west from the westernmost drive. This would be acceptable
to City staff. This needs to be worked out between the two property owners. If it is not going to
be counterclockwise, a one-way maneuver, this is as close as they can come to a solution; and
they are hopeful the property owners see it that way as well. As much as they want to see this
site redevelop at the corner, they do not want to make the situation worse. Once they have new
investment on that corner, they may have a dilemma out in the street.
Mr. Hickok
stated staff recommends concurrence with the Planning Commission as the
rezoning brings the lots into compliance with lot requirements, and the rezoning will allow
redevelop of this gas station site.
Mayor Lund
asked Mr. Hickok to put up the last drawing he recommended on the inflow and
egress. He understands staff is suggesting as to the eastern one, obviously you could come left
or right off of 53rd into the eastern driveway.
Mr. Hickok
replied, yes.
Mayor Lund
stated and then you only have a right out.
Mr. Hickok
replied, correct.
Mayor Lund
asked what stops people from crossing over to go left out.
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Mr. Hickok
replied there would be signs on the site. A sign saying "No Left" and a maneuver
that would cause you to go left would be an illegal maneuver and they could get a ticket.
Mayor Lund
asked, but they would not expand the center island or something to make that a
little tougher.
Mr. Hickok
replied he would leave that to Mr. Kosluchar to talk about. There is some merit to
what Mayor Lund is suggesting..
Mayor Lund
stated as to the western driveway where the map is showing an arrow in and out, is
there any restriction on going out the second one? They can take a left or a right.
Mr. Hickok
replied correct.
Mayor Lund
stated it is problematic, when both driveways are so close together. He can see the
confusion of, okay, who is next in line here to go out and go in. He did drive over there
yesterday to look at the site to see about a driveway someplace else. The topography is so severe
there and there is no room for it. It would be expensive to say the least if not impossible. He
would like to see the site redeveloped. It would be an asset to that intersection to have
something nice and new.
Mayor Lund
asked Mr. Kosluchar if he had anything to add whether it would be an illegal left
turn out of there. What prevents them from doing that other than a "Right Turn Only" or "No
Left Turn"?
James Kosluchar,
Public Works Director, said they have looked at the corridor here from 53rd
to west of the Target entrance. They are looking at it in anticipation of a street repaving project
that will be coming up within the next couple years and looking at the wide open access. This
plan improves the situation. Could they extend that median? Certainly. One of the issues they
are concerned about with doing that would be people are then going to be pushed towards u-turns
in other locations, and that is an even more dangerous move.
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Mayor Lund
stated, yes, this site does not lend itself for stacking on 53, so if anybody makes a
left turn, whether it is the eastern driveway or the western driveway, they are so close there is no
room for stacking. He has been in that site on numerous occasions. Forget about making a left
turn because there is no stacking room. If there are two cars at that stoplight, you are blocking
the road. It is best to make a right turn and in some cases he has made a right turn and went into
Target to come back out because there is more stacking room.
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Councilmember Barnette
stated if they extended the median to the west that would stop people
from taking a left into that site. That would not be a good thing either. He would like to hear
from the Embers people as to what they think.
Mr. Hickok
stated one thing to consider is they are not seeing on the entrance to the Discount
Tire store. Although civil engineers could not line the driveways up, they did the best they could
to make sure access into everything still remains.
Councilmember Saefke
asked if property owners have had a chance to take a look at this yet
and provided any feedback.
Councilmember Bolkcom
asked if it was their idea.
Mr. Hickok
replied actually this is not the compromise. This is a suggestion based on all facts
staff knows. Could they go any further than a counterclockwise loop? Yes, this is as far as they
could go beyond that. If that does not work for the property owners, what they are saying is this
is as far as they go. The City wants to see that site redeveloped but they have taken the “do no
harm” approach. Anything beyond this does harm.
Councilmember Saefke
stated he has to agree with the Mayor that is one of the worst
intersections in town, and there is not a really good solution. A “do not do harm” is a way to go
about it even though it is not ideal. They will have to see what happens. He certainly is not
opposed to redevelopment or even changing the zoning so it could occur. They can only do what
they can do.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated she does not see the big issue. If they do not like to only make
that turn that way, they can go up and loop around and come back the other direction. It is all
going to be one parking lot there, right?
Mr. Hickok
replied, staff thinks that both will be served actually better. Sometimes it is better
when you narrow access points and provide enhanced directions as to where to go. Remember
there is no curbing here along the gas station site. You pull out anywhere you want but, by
limiting the access points and then giving good clear direction on how you maneuver through, it
is actually better for both properties.
Mayor Lund
stated it is not the site itself. The ingress and egress were the only concern
because there is no stacking room. Ideally, the driveways should be further to the west to have
some stacking room and allow some time for when someone is coming around the corner.
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Wally Wysopal
, City Manager, asked staff whether this option they are seeing on the screen
now was modeled with the traffic analysis and, if so, what was the impact?
Mr. Kosluchar
replied, no, it was not specifically modeled. They have had analysis on the
corner on 53rd and there are five intersections there. Their recommendation was to have the
one-way loop but, because there are so many access points and so many locations and because of
the functionality of the traffic signal at the service Level F, everyone is slow in that corridor
when it is congested. That is when the recommendation came back from the traffic engineer that
the reality is some other movements would not harm it at this time simply because there is so
much congestion and so many movements going on at once. The premise of moving the one
intersection away from Highway 65 is an improvement, and restricting and limiting the location
of the western access was an improvement. The only reason that wide open access is not a
problem now is because there is so little traffic going to the gas station now.
Councilmember Saefke
stated he does see one more problem. If you are traveling south on
Central and make a left-hand turn, if you are not familiar with the area you might wind up in the
left-hand lane but want to turn right into Target or into Embers. He can see problems with that,
especially if people are not familiar with the area.
Bruce Carlson,
Vice President of Development for Dorn Companies, stated he has been
working on this project for over a year. He recently switched to Dorn Companies in June. Prior
to that, he was with Mid-America Real Estate. At that point, he was engaged by the property
owners at the corner of 53rd and Central, as the owner's representative to try and figure out this
Rubik’s cube they see before them tonight. Also here tonight is Mark Kronbeck from Alliant
Engineering.
Mr. Carlson
stated they have been working very closely with City staff and the owner of
Embers and his team. They definitely realize it is a challenge. A brief history might help a little
bit in that this development they are talking about is actually the idea of Starbucks. Starbucks
and their representatives approached the owner on the corner as a possible redevelopment
location. The property owners are not interested in selling the property. They have owned the
property for over 20 years now and they want to continue that way. Starbucks would lease the
property. Right now they have a Letter of Credit and a draft Lease, but obviously they will not
sign the Lease until they have all of their entitlements. They are really here serving four entities
and trying to make all four entities happy. One of the entities they want to make happy or have
to make happy is Starbucks. Secondly, is Embers, who already has a clear access with full
access driveway right now. Also, the City and the citizens of Fridley. He would like to throw
the property owners in the mix as well.
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Mr. Carlson
stated throughout this process, he has found everybody to be so professional and
helpful. Everyone has real concerns and they have had a really good open dialogue. With City
staff and Mr. Rickenbach and his team, it has been an honor for him to work on this. That being
said it is still a difficult challenge, and they all have their concerns and will have to make sure it
works for everybody.
Mr. Carlson
stated the last plan that was pulled up was drawn up by Alliant, but he does not
want it to be construed that it is a plan they are putting forth today. It is something they look at,
comment, and discuss on; but again, everybody has to be on board and right now not everyone is
on board with this plan. Mr. Rickenbach from Embers can speak to that.
Mr. Carlson
stated they like the use and Starbucks is very enthusiastic about being here. They
also have a tenant secured for the northern space, and they have interest in the middle space. The
tenant is a low-volume user and but does not want to be identified yet. They appreciate all the
Council's thought and consideration especially on the zoning on this.
Mayor Lund
stated what is in it for Mr. Rickenbach going through all this?
Mr. Carlson
replied, that is a good question for him.
Mayor Lund
asked whether the architect or anybody considered moving the building from
where it is now--either moving it from the left edge to the right. That seems to be kind of a new
model in development that you do not put the cars in the parking always in the front, that you put
them in the back of the building. Or you take that building and move it 90 degrees so now the
fronts are facing 53rd rather than facing Central. You want the left and rights without any
restriction as the road they see now with the easement the City has and in this purpose maybe
giving Embers and the new tenants to flow behind it so you have some separation between the
driveways. In his opinion, the driveways right next to each other lend themselves to look like
they are accident prone.
Mr. Carlson
replied, yes, they did look at that. They probably have six different plans they
looked at. First of all, to put the building up by Central Avenue and have it face west, kind of
having the back door on Central Avenue does two things. First of all, it totally blocks the
Embers visibility from the intersection. Second of all, they have never had good success in
development of making the back of the shopping center look like the front of the shopping
center. It ends up looking like the back of a shopping center unless tenants are willing to have
their front doors and all of the glass be on the Central Avenue side which has people parked on
the west side having to walk around.
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Mayor Lund
said to Mr. Carlson he is saying the front would face Highway 65. That was his
first thought, or moving it to the side so the front would now face 53rd and then the parking in
that case would all be between Embers and his facility.
Mr. Carlson
stated, right, turning that building 90 degrees you still come up with the same issue
of blocking Embers and then also, right now Embers has kind of a good thing going as they
already have their access. They are going to have to speak to what is in it for Mr. Rickenbach.
The other thing is they even have had Starbucks architects and designers from Chicago and also
in Dallas work on this puzzle as well. With the great staffing that this has and with the visibility
to Central Avenue, this is what they were able to get Starbucks to approve.
Councilmember Saefke
stated there is already a Starbucks inside Target. Why do they want to
put another one less than a quarter of a mile?
Mr. Carlson
said they probably both know the answer to that--money. Starbucks has looked
hard at that and if they were partners in a coffee shop and had one there and had one here, they
would do better here. They know that. There are so many reasons why. First of all, with
families with kids a drive-thru allows you to not have to leave the car and not take all the kids
out of the car. There are convenience issues. There is a long list.
Councilmember Saefke
asked if Starbucks would be removed from Target.
Mr. Carlson r
eplied, no, because that facility is designed for people who want to drink coffee
while they shop or have a cup as they leave shopping. However, if you are on your way to work,
and you are in a hurry, the chances of you parking in Target, even if they are open as early as
7:30 in the morning, and leaving and running into Target, is not going to happen. Starbucks
knows that.
Councilmember Saefke
asked does Starbucks know the difficulty of getting in and out of here.
Mr. Carlson
replied, oh yes they do. They worked with the architects in Chicago and their
planners down in Dallas. He has been working on this over a year now.
Councilmember Saefke
stated instead of fighting with traffic, he would drive up to Caribou up
the road to its drive-thru.
Mr. Carlson
replied that is the beauty of America--you can get coffee anywhere. Starbucks
understands the rules of the game. Everybody understands the free market and the advantages
and disadvantages that are here.
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Councilmember Bolkcom
stated she is going back to going in and out of the parking spots.
There is a Starbucks off of Fairview and 36. You have to come in there and you also have to
back out of there. It is just like a free for all there. Is there enough room for people zipping in
there to get their coffee quick and someone else who is backing out of that area? How much
space is there between when they are first coming in from the left? Or maybe they will park
closer to the building.
Mr. Hickok
replied they are 25-foot wide drive aisles. This is a standard width drive aisle. The
stalls, the nose-in to the landscaped area are 18-foot stalls, and the nose-to-nose are 20-foot stalls
(10-foot wide stalls). Between the drive aisles, there is between 10 and 20 feet separation at the
setback line.
Councilmember Bolkcom
asked if she would be able to back out of the one on the west even if
someone was coming in.
Mr. Hickok
replied this would be similar to being at any shopping center. In the shopping
center it might be narrower. This is a 25-foot wide drive aisle. Some shopping centers have 20-
foot drive aisles. Typically you would stay in your lane and then that car can go past you.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated there is the rezoning tonight but City staff has not totally
embraced this plan. It seems like one of the biggest issues is the whole traffic thing.
Mr. Hickok
stated Council is being asked tonight to hold the public hearing on the rezoning.
Staff thinks it is important to talk about the access. The beauty of a rezoning is tonight they have
their public hearing, the next Council meeting they have their first reading and then in Fridley
you have a second reading of the ordinance. They have some time between now and the first or
second reading to come up with a conclusion. Staff does not like to bring to Council a situation
that is a problem and make them the referees. They want Council to trust staff in solving these
problems. However, they do not want to pick sides between property owners; and they have two
very good property owners here. Staff is confident that everyone sees the merit of redeveloping
here. Everyone understands there is a situation with circulation that needs to be worked on.
Staff is confident that between now and the time they get to the second reading they will have a
solution. Staff cannot bring a piece of property and ask Council to sell or deed to this property a
project because they do not want to deed away that land only to have neighbors fight it. The
petitioners are going to solve the problem and bring it to us. They will bring a very nice solution
to Council at one of the next two Council meetings.
Mayor Lund
stated he believed they should be focusing about rezoning this rather than trying to
solve the problem of the ingress and egress. With that being said, what he wants to hear from
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Mr. Carlson and also Mr. Rickenbach is whether they would still be interested in rezoning this
property even if this thing does not go down?
Mr. Carlson
replied, yes, he was going to refocus back on that as well. That would be
beneficial long-term for the property, even if this falls apart and does not get done.
Councilmember Varichak
asked if any type of development on this site would have the same
problem.
Mr. Hickok
stated the Mayor keyed in on an important point and that is, yes, in the traffic
analysis, there were two solutions or more that would actually have access way to the western
edge of this site. You get as far away from the intersection as you can. One of those suggestions
even brought a drive up the hill from the Target driveway, past the restaurant, up the hill, and
then serve those two uses at the corner from basically a service drive that comes up the Target
drive. Now they understand where they have been on this and understand why they are closer to
these solutions that everyone would find palatable. If you have to drive a long way to get there,
you are not going to do it. That is how and why they have gotten to this solution.
,
Joe Rickenbach, Embersstated he and his wife have owned the Embers for 17 years. They have
a thriving business with many regular customers. Embers has been part of Fridley for 57 years
with 50 years on the spot where they are currently at. His main concern is, and always has been,
that they keep their access the way it is now. Their access is pretty clear and easy. The project
they have proposed is a big project. It is taking one business and turning it into three on a small
site with a drive-thru. What they are asking him is to change his. He has a clear in and out right
now. No issues at all. The left turn is not the greatest and it is an "F" and even when things
change it will still be. However, people do like taking a left turn there. It is not everybody, but
they do like the access to H65. They are asking him to change that basically into a parking lot
for the driveway and to change the way his customers come and go.
Mr. Rickenbach
stated some people will say, “Joe, you have a lot of loyal customers, they are
not going to be bothered by the changes, they are going to find you.” He would say, they have
extra traffic, a parking lot and have to exit to the one side to take a left. They have a parking lot
they are going to have to go through with people walking out three new stores, and they have a
drive-thru entrance and exit. They have a brand new item up by his house that has three units. It
is brand new with not a lot of development around there right now, but that drive-thru lane is
busy all the time. He knows there is stacking and that is great, but it is busy all the time. It
might be true some of his regulars may find him but, if people have a hard time getting out, they
will not come back. Not to mention he has a lot of older customers, and the business of the new
lot is not going to be easy for them also.
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Mr. Rickenbach
stated his other real worry is resale value. In years to come, if they decide to
sell down the road, how is it going to affect potential buyers. Right now if he was to sell they
would have a great easement. Easy in and out, and great visibility. Is it going to change? It is
probably going to make it harder to sell.
Mr. Rickenbach
stated, having said all of that, Alliant approached him. It would be awesome to
have something new on the corner and make it look nicer. So they did come to an agreement,
but it was the City that was adamant about not having it. Everybody has been really good to
work with. However, the only one he is comfortable, although not that comfortable, but said he
would do is where they would have two exits with ins and outs, both ways, left and right, even
though that left is hard. It is a hard right now, but his No. 1 goal from the very beginning when
Alliant came out is keeping his main entrance the same way. This definitely changes it. He
knows they put a lot of time and effort into it, and he what they say; however, they are at a
standstill at the moment. He thinks it will affect his business. This is his livelihood. This
business has been here a long time, and it is important to him and his family.
Mayor Lund
asked Mr. Rickenbach, if this does not happen, would he still want the zoning
change.
Mr. Rickenbach
replied, yes, he has talked to Mr. Hickok. .
Mayor Lund
asked Mr. Rickenbach, if he sees it as a benefit.
Mr. Rickenbach
replied, yes. He understands it and he knows they are here for zoning, but this
is going to be a part of it.
Mayor Lund
asked Mr. Kosluchar, if 53rd Avenue was County road.
Mr. Kosluchar
replied no, it is a City street.
Mayor Lund
asked whether there has ever been any discussion about changes that might occur
rd
on 53 Avenue. Sometimes crossovers are eliminated. Would he like it if they create a median
to eliminate the left turn altogether? That has happened before because the intersection is not
ideal. He has been to Embers himself there, you either have to block the intersection or wait to
time it and then you have people waiting behind to get out. Sometimes he has made a right turn
even though he wanted to go left to get out on the highway. He is just wondering, because at
some point they may change it so you cannot make the crossover in that intersection.
Mr. Rickenbach
asked Mr. Hickok to put the plan up that they originally agreed on. The one
thing about this plan, right now there is the gas station is not near the traffic. The Starbucks
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alone there would have a lot of traffic, let alone two other units. However, right now with the
gas station, it is willy nilly how you leave because it is not defined. This plan would have two
defined areas that would kind of compete a little bit, but what having that second spot does for
his customers is it frees up, with all the heavy traffic, with having two of the same entrances and
exits. To him it alleviates a little bit of the pressure of being able to turn left in one spot. Right
now if you were coming by those businesses and you wanted to come out left, you would have
someone coming out of the drive-thru. It is a mess no doubt about it. To him having two ins and
outs both ways is kind of the only satisfactory proposal so far.
Mr. Wysopal
asked if changing zoning at all changes any of the storm water requirements for
the site.
Mr. Hickok
replied, for any new development, there will be an analysis on the storm water and
how it needs to be mitigated. However, zoning alone does not affect it. Redevelopment on this
site will have its own storm water considerations but will not affect the storm water on Embers.
MOTION
by Councilmember Barnetteto close the public hearing. Seconded by
Councilmember Saefke.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 7:58
P.M.
5. Consider a Rezoning Request, ZOA #13-02, by the City of Fridley, to Consider
Rezoning Property, Legally Described as Auditor's Subdivision 39, from C-2,
General Business, to M-2, Heavy Industrial, Generally Located at 3720 East River
Road N.E. (Ward 3) (Continued February 23, 2015).
Scott Hickok,
Community Development Director, stated staff had recommended rezoning this
property back to M-2, Heavy Industrial, which seemed to be a more appropriate zoning for that
location and for the future use of the site. Since that time, the property was sold to someone who
is going to use it for a Hmong funeral home. Being that the property has now closed, the use is
appropriate for the site, and they have plans to develop it, staff recommends withdrawing its
rezoning request. The public hearing is to make known that the City was the petitioner and it is
satisfied that there is now a use that will go on that site. The new owners plan on developing it
this summer. Staff is requesting the rezoning be withdrawn. They will bring a resolution to
Council at the next meeting.
Councilmember Bolkcom
asked if all they have to do is close the public hearing.
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Mr. Hickok
replied, yes.
Mayor Lund
stated he has an issue with this and is going to bring it up. He is not ready to
remove this from the table only because it is a separate issue. He feels offended. The City gave
them all the courtesies from the Council's standpoint to continue this thing to allow this rather
lengthy process for the bank to sell this property and leave the zoning as such. He was in
agreement with staff rezoning it to what would be more befitting for that area. He was not trying
to make it anti-business. He was happy to do that for them and then grant all these exceptions,
only to find out about Item No. 6 on the agenda. This is a different issue, but they extended the
City no courtesies. In fact, they avoided the City it seems like. His question is what if they do
not remove this zoning request until they settle this other issue with the City.
Mr. Hickok
replied, he recommends they keep the issues separate. Be clear about the land use
issue and act upon it with what he thinks is right from a land use perspective. Although the
Mayor's comments are well stated and well taken, from a land use perspective, they do not want
to blend the two issues.
Mayor Lund
stated it seems like they did. He understands what Mr. Hickok is saying. It is
wrong for him to try and penalize them, but he is really upset with them that they continued on
with a violation that seemingly does not have much clout and they can continue to violate or just
ignore having storm water running into a sanitary drain for two plus years and do nothing about
it.
Mr. Hickok
stated one element that makes it a bit more difficult now is that they have a new
business that is ready to follow the rules and do whatever is necessary, and they now depend on
the zoning that would cause staff to withdraw its request.
Mayor Lund
replied, he would be penalizing the new property owner. It is unfortunate he found
out about this after the closing. He asked whether the closing occurred the same day as their last
Council meeting.
Mr. Hickok
replied, it did not occur until later in the week.
Mayor Lund
stated, there again, they should have been notifying the City, and yet again they
had to continue this thing for their benefit. The bank has left a very sour taste in his mouth to say
the least. He would really like to have them in front of him tonight or he would like to negotiate
with them with No. 6 later on. With that being said, he is going to go ahead to close the hearing
if the Council so desires, but they have not heard the last of him on Item No. 6.
FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF MARCH 9, 2013 PAGE 16
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated it was not the lender who requested the rezoning. It was
generated by staff originally.
Mayor Lund
replied, absolutely, and he was okay with the staff rezoning it because it was the
best use of that property in an area otherwise surrounded by industrial uses. If anything, it seems
to him keeping the zoning is like spot zoning but it has already been there. They were very
generous to them backing off from that proposal, giving them a lot of time to do that, and then in
return what the City got was complete avoidance on an issue that they should have some benefits
here.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated then she would also question how come they did not hear
about this other issue until it was in their agenda.
MOTION
by Councilmember Bolkcom to close the public hearing. Seconded by
Councilmember Varichak.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 8:06
P.M.
NEW BUSINESS:
6. Resolution Approving Waiver, Release and Covenant Not to Sue Regarding
Discharge Fees for Property Located at 3720 East River Road in Fridley, Minnesota
(Ward 3).
Darin Nelson
, Finance Director and Treasurer, stated the Metropolitan Council Environmental
Services Division (MCES) notified the City in June of 2012 about a suspicious discharge in their
MCES 33-inch sanitary sewer line in the vicinity of 3720 East River Road. On July 2, City staff
discovered the discharge of groundwater in the sanitary sewer system at that address. Upon
inspection, staff did find the basement was flooded with groundwater that was draining in the
floor drain leading to the interceptor. Staff did perform several flow tests and they did find at
peak times water was flowing in about four gallons per minute and that obviously depends on the
time of year.
Mr. Nelson
stated staff did notify a designated representative from Prime Security Bank on July
7 about the illegal discharge and indicated the problem needed to be corrected as soon as
possible, and they would charge them for those sanitary sewer fees for the illegal discharge. In
August, after receiving no response from Prime Security Bank, staff again spoke with Prime
Security Bank and notified them that the flow rates had not changed and that the problem needed
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to be corrected as soon as possible. The representative from Prime Security Bank indicated that
he would speak with his superiors, and they would follow up and solve the problem at hand.
Prime did nothing to correct the problem, and the illegal discharge continued through 2013.
Staff again contacted Prime Security's representative in the summer of 2014 to discuss Prime
Security's responsibility to correct the problem and to let them know, again, the City would be
billing them for the illicit discharge. Finally, later in the summer of 2014, upon further inaction
by Prime Security Bank, staff did bill them for two plus years of sanitary sewer service with
estimated flow rates for that period of time. The City estimated different points of the year.
They had done probably eight or so inspections of the property over that timeframe, taking
different points of the year and different flow rates. Staff estimated what the flow would have
been for that timeframe.
Mr. Nelson
stated, subsequently, upon receiving the bill, the bank did contact the City and were
ultimately allowed to do a temporary fix. At that point in time, they had an agreement in place
where it looked like it was going to be sold to a funeral home and the site would be demolished.
The temporary fix was basically a plug into that sanitary sewer line, rather than being corrected
with a complete fix which would have been an expensive fix at that point in time.
Mr. Nelson
stated when the bank got the bill, they contacted him, and he was stern with them,
saying they were dragging the City along while they were trying to find a buyer for the property.
The bank came back and said they did not necessarily have flow rates and they did not know
exactly how much flow was going through there. There is not a flow meter in place. It is not
like a water mater. The City can only estimate flow rates. Staff believes they estimated a fair
amount, but there is little they can prove other than the City’s flow tests on various dates.
Mr. Nelson
stated Prime Security Bank came back to the City with an offer after the City had
sent the bill. The City said no. The bank told him we would be hearing from its attorney. The
City Attorney stated it looks like they are going to be battling them. Basically the bank sent the
City a letter stating what their amount was. The City sent them a response saying, no, but was
willing to take the amount of $6,000. The bank did come back and did accept that offer. The
City is not happy with the dollar amount but it is something rather than nothing. Staff is happy
to see the property sold. It is going to be a better site in the long run. With that $6,000 fee, in
exchange the City will provide the bank with a waiver and a release and covenant not to sue
them. In addition, Prime Security Bank is still responsible for the quarterly or current charges
for storm water and base sewer fees for the period at the closing. They closed on the property
February 25, and the billing cycle closed on February 28. So they had a vast majority of that
billing cycle which amounted to $248. When they closed they did have $6,300 in an escrow
account which is dedicated to resolving the issue. Before the closing, he did make sure the new
owners were aware of this outstanding issue.
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Mr. Nelson
stated upon approval of the Wavier, Prime will wire the funds to the City, and they
should have those in the City's account as soon as they sign the papers. Staff does recommend
approving the resolution granting the waiver, release and covenant in exchange for the fees. He
does have a correction. On page 64, that is an excess page (there is no Exhibit A).
Mayor Lund
stated the $294.48 is the quarterly charge, but there was a few days prorated until
the closing of the billing. Is that the basic one-quarter fee that every citizen, every household,
would have to pay for water, sewer, and storm water?
Mr. Nelson
replied, that is correct. It is mainly the storm water charge. They are not on City
water. They get their water from the City of Minneapolis.
Mayor Lund
stated this is for approximately two and one-half years which is ten quarters. Are
those ten quarters also included in that $6,000?
Mr. Nelson
replied, no, they are not. They have been paying their quarterly charges. They just
contested this additional charge.
Mayor Lund
stated they were being billed and were paying their quarterly amounts. As to the
illegal discharge, is there not some penalty? Some governing body and who is that in this case?
Is it the City? Met Council?
Mr. Nelson
replied, Mr. Kosluchar would be a better person to answer that.
Mayor Lund
stated it seems like the only action the City got out of them was after two years
staff finally decided to send them a bill. They should have been sending them a bill shortly after,
give them 30 days, and then say if you are not going to fix the problem then the City will go
ahead and fix it and fine them and everything else.
Mr. Nelson
replied, to Greg Kottsick’s credit, he did have constant communication with the one
representative who always kind of gave him the run around that they were going to fix the
problem and were going to be on top of it. The City would rather have them fix the problem
immediately than have to bill them for this illegal discharge.
Mayor Lund
asked if the City has a pretty standard format--if they do not pay, the City pays it
and abates it.
Mr. Nelson
replied correct.
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Mayor Lund
stated the City has a very good way of collecting from people who do not conform.
It seems like a relatively serious issue to him.
Mr. Nelson
stated he and Attorney Erickson had a conversation about this a few weeks to a
month ago along with Mr. Kottsick. Mr. Kottsick’s experience is that 99.9 percent of the time,
other than this one instance, the homeowners or businesses have worked with the City and made
the corrections.
Mayor Lund
asked what the City's first billing was to them that actually got them motivated to
talk.
Mr. Nelson
replied it was a little over $12,000.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated part of their issue is it has all been by telephone between one
City employee and an employee of Prime Security Bank, and that employee left the employ of
the bank.
Mr. Nelson
stated the representative of the bank has always given the City the run around, and
responsibility was switched around and they had to talk to their superiors. The individual at the
bank never really got back to the City and said he needed further documentation. The president
of the bank said if he would have had some sort of written notification of this from day one, they
would have gone in and fixed the problem.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated she understands what the Mayor is saying; however, on the
other hand, legally, it is hearsay in a sense. She does not understand why this has been going on
for two years and with the rezoning, how come none of that ever clicked together. How many
times was the bank in front of them, and no one ever said there was this issue going on.
Mr. Nelson
replied the discharge piece of that was a separate issue that is in operations and staff
did know about it on the billing side. He said he was not exactly sure about the rezoning part.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated they probably would not know about it but, if there is no paper
and all telephone, they have learned something from this.
Mayor Lund
said, you expect them to be professional about it and the bank just looked the other
way, under the guise that my representative does not really speak for the bank, but it never was
run up the flagpole, and then the president gets involved when he sees a big bill coming in.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated but they do not know what the representative did with it. It is
similar to if suddenly Macy's says you owe $12,000 and you never got a bill.
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Mayor Lund
asked if you do an illegal discharge, is there no course of action for illegal
activity? Is there a fine? There should be some penalty.
Darcy Erickson,
City Attorney, replied there is the IDDE ordinance. It does not sound good to
say this, but those are extraordinary measures. They are talking an abatement of a piece of
property, going into a property and taking those sorts of actions. In Public Works there were
always some assurances this would occur. They are also probably stymied by the fact that they
do not have a certain guaranteed number of gallons that were passed into our system. At best,
they are going off of period monitoring which is the best they could do under these
circumstances.
Mayor Lund
stated he is not talking about how much they should charge them, because all they
can do is estimate. He is talking about the continued violation that occurred for over two years.
Is there no authority that can penalize them? A penalty to force them to take ownership in their
problem and responsibility. Even with the closing, who says the new owner is going to take
immediate action to stop the illegal discharge. They did do a temporary fix but only after the
City sent them a large bill did they take notice. Regardless of how little or great the illegal
discharge was is not his real point. It seems the onus is on the City to prove how much they
illegally discharged.
Attorney Erickson
stated under the IDDE ordinance, there is probably the ability to prosecute it
as a misdemeanor but she does not know if that gets the remedy you necessarily want in an
expeditious manner either. It is a situation of City staff trying to work with the property owner
who believes that the property would be closing. That is probably a way of securing payment
and correction of the issue.
Mayor Lund
asked if they do not approve this which he is not happy about, then it goes to a
court action, and they end up settling at something in between.
Attorney Erickson
replied, candidly, it is costly to try to prosecute or try to litigate this. This is
a compromise perhaps and is the best they could craft out of the situation in which the City finds
itself.
Mayor Lund
stated they are getting one heck of a deal under this scenario because it had to be
significant to pick up the outgoing flowage of the storm water for it to even come to the City's
attention.
Mr. Nelson
replied Met Council was looking at the BNSF interceptors. They were televising the
main pipe and happened to run across this interceptor coming in.
FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF MARCH 9, 2013 PAGE 21
Councilmember Bolkcom
asked if it could have been from several owners before this.
Mr. Nelson
replied it was probably when the power was cut off to that building. It had been
vandalized many times. The sum pump then stopped running at that point.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated it probably goes back to at least one owner before. The power
was out for some time before it was foreclosed.
MOTION
by Councilmember Bolkcom to adopt Resolution No. 2015-15. Seconded by
Councilmember Barnette.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, COUNCILMEMBERS BARNETTE, VARICHAK, AND
BOLKCOM VOTING AYE AND MAYOR LUND AND COUNCILMEMBER SAEFKE
VOTING NAY, THE MOTION WAS CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY ON A 3-2 VOTE.
7. Special Use Permit Request, #14-07, by TCO Design, to Construct a Comprehensive
Home Use in an R-3 Zoning District, Generally Located at 5300 and 5310 Fourth
Street N.E.
and
Resolution Approving Special Use Permit, SP #14-07, for TCO Design, the
Petitioner, on Behalf of A.P. Ventures with Authorization from BRP II, LLC, the
Property Owner of 5300 Fourth Street N.E., and Security Bank and Trust, the
Property Owner of 5310 Fourth Street N.E. (Ward 1).
Scott Hickok,
Community Development Director,stated the petitioner is seeking a special use
permit to allow the construction of a comprehensive home care building. This was originally
before the Planning Commission on November 19, 2014. Because of neighborhood and
Planning Commission issues specifically related to parking, the petitioner waived State Statute
Section 15.99, 60-day agency action law. Since that November Planning Commission meeting,
the petitioner and representatives for the project have negotiated a purchase agreement with the
owner of 5300 Fourth Street. The additional land area will allow for more on-site parking to
address the concerns of the Planning Commission and the neighborhood.
Mr. Hickok
stated the new site plan incorporates those two parcels. The actual square footage
of the building has been reduced in size, and an existing garage on the 5300 Fourth Street
property will remain in place which will provide parking as well as room for garbage and
recycling containers.
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Mr. Hickok
stated the proposed building will still have three stories, with a maximum height of
35 feet, which is also the maximum height in a single-family district. Each level will have five
separate bedrooms and the common area. The new site plan allows for 12 surface and 2 garage
stalls for a total of 14 parking stalls.
Mr. Hickok
stated hospitals, clinics, and convalescent nursing homes are permitted special uses
in the R-3 district. This is in an R-3 multi-family housing district. Based on Code requirements
for a nursing home which is the most similar use to the comprehensive home care use, 8 parking
stalls are required. The previous site plan did comply with Code requirements; however, as
mentioned it was a concern to neighbors and the Planning Commission.
Mr. Hickok
stated the new site plan has been updated to provide a total of 12 parking spaces
plus 2 garage stalls. This is 6 stalls above what the Code would require for a convalescent home.
Mr. Hickok
stated the second hearing was held on February 18. After receiving additional
comments from neighboring property owners and clarification from the petitioner and staff
regarding questions that came up, the Planning Commission recommended approval of this
special use permit with eight stipulations. The recommendation was unanimously approved.
Mr. Hickok
stated City staff recommends concurrence with the Planning Commission.
Councilmember Saefke
stated he went there today, and after having read the minutes from the
Planning Commission, he fails to see where any problem exists with the building being built
there. There seems to be sufficient property and, if the entrance is in the alleyway, it is between
Bona Brothers and the property and these two properties are right on the corner. The concern
about additional traffic is not going to get beyond two properties if it gets that far because the
main parking will be in the back. The next property down happens to be an apartment building
as well. He believes that is a three-story.
Mr. Hickok
replied it is a two-story with a walkout.
Councilmember Saefke
stated the construction of this in that neighborhood does not seem to
create a problem because there are others within this same area. This particular area in the City
happens to be one of the older areas. There might have been some mixed uses there prior. This
would not affect anything. As far as the shade is concerned, he has heard that before when
Norwood Square was being built and when Brandes Place was being built. People were
concerned about it wrecking their view, etc. His feeling on that was he would rather see a nice
house or building than the back end of a development that has dumpsters and other
accoutrements. It is his understanding as well that Bona Brothers will not be parking there any
longer.
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Mr. Hickok
replied that is correct.
Councilmember Saefke
stated he did see a couple of cars parked back there this afternoon.
Mr. Hickok
stated the site is quiet. They have taken advantage of hard surface, but they realize
that is not their site and this development is going to occur. They will need to find a place for
those employees.
Councilmember Saefke
stated it seems to him that having read the minutes, some people did
not quite understand this is a building for people to recuperate in with some pretty serious
illnesses or operations. He cannot really see a whole lot of partying going on nor can he see
those people driving around.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated this is a special use permit with the use of being a
convalescent or nursing home, so the whole thing with the halfway house or anything like that,
the special use permit goes with the property. It is not like someone can come in and make this a
group home or a halfway house.
Mr. Hickok
replied correct. They tried to be as specific as they can. The City Code does not
have the term "telemedicine," for example, in it. Staff picks the closest which is a convalescent
facility. It is an area to recuperate. Some of the questions came up, where is the doctor’s stand,
the nurse’s stand, etc. The petitioner will provide them more information about that tonight if
they like. This is a new technology and not the last time they will see a facility of this type
where the doctors and the people who are communicating on certain issues are not in the facility.
They are communicating from afar.
Councilmember Bolkcom
asked if they have heard anything else from the neighbors since the
Planning Commission meeting.
Mr. Hickok
replied they have not.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated she read something recently about Bona Brothers and asked
whether they need to be a little more diligent relating to parking and parking on the streets. She
understands there have always been some parking issues with Bona Brothers with code
enforcement. A lot of times you do not know there is a problem until someone tells them. Is
there a better way to follow up on some of things related to special use permits and parking?
Mr. Hickok
asked are they talking specifically about parking issues at Bona Brothers the City
needs to follow up on.
FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF MARCH 9, 2013 PAGE 24
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated they have a special permit and part of the issue back when that
was in front of them was if they had enough parking? It appears there have been some problems
there. Is there enough parking for this new facility? There will be people coming to visit, the
people who work there and the change of shift. Is there a better mechanism the City has where
they can sort of reassure people that the City is watching this?
Mr. Hickok
replied they have a special use permit before them tonight. One of the concerns
they heard from the Planning Commission and neighbors was about parking. The petitioner has
taken an extraordinary step to buy a property next door. They met the Code with the property
they had. They have bought a property next door to provide them a buffer in the event that has
proven that if they need additional parking they have it.
Mr. Hickok
said one of the things people do not see from the outside relating to Bona Brothers
is they have also taken extraordinary measures. They have now probably upwards into the
$5,000 to $6,000 range in surveying costs. They had worked with the City to try and get the
frontage road vacated. In fact Mr. Kosluchar came to the City and he was working on a street
project down there and asked, do they fix that cul de sac or not? It looked like Bona Brothers
has made provisions to have that vacated. The City was interested in having it vacated, and they
were not even interested in fixing the cul de sac at that time if it was going away. The State
really became the hurdle in there.
Mr. Hickok
stated to Bona's defense, what has happened here is the business has grown beyond
the owner's expectations over time. He has bought a site in New Brighton for his large vehicles.
He does deal with three very large clients in Fridley. One is BNSF, one is Plunkett's and one is
Comcast. Three shift companies where after the third shift oftentimes they will leave their
vehicle and be picked up by a co-worker. Bona's has hired somebody to shuttle those vehicles to
the New Brighton site. Occasionally you might see one there because the third shift person got
there, the 8 o'clock person is not in yet. However, as soon as he gets there to shuttle it, off it
goes. Is it cause to call back the special use permit? They have taken extraordinary measures to
try, in light of all the facts, to stay within the bounds of what the City's special use permit
required them to do. At any point if Council thinks there is an issue or is getting complaints and
there is cause to have them come back with the special use permit, please let staff know. Bona's
is not at that point. They did take advantage of the fact there was hard surface behind them and a
vacant spot to put employees because they are doing what the City wants businesses to do. They
are growing. The City is meeting with them on a regular ongoing basis.
Councilmember Bolkcom
stated similarly there is a stipulation that staff will work with the
petitioner and the neighborhood if it becomes an issue.
Mr. Hickok
replied absolutely.
FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF MARCH 9, 2013 PAGE 25
Councilmember Varichak
stated Deb Skogen had come to the Planning Commission with some
questions. Did all of her questions get answered.
Mr. Hickok
replied staff got back to her with answers to her questions. He thought she was
pleased at the response and the fact the petitioner did hear the comments of the citizens and they
did do something about that with the purchase of the property next door.
Councilmember Saefke
asked Mr. Hickok if he would explain to him what Exhibit A is about.
Mr. Hickok
asked the legal descriptions?
Councilmember Saefke
stated especially where it says, “subject to the reservation to the State
of Minnesota in trust for the taxing districts concerned of all minerals and mineral rights in all of
said property.”
Mr. Hickok
replied, some properties have that and these two properties do. At some point in
time minerals rights were reserved on these properties.
Mayor Lund
asked if the property the petitioner bought was a non-conforming piece of
property.
Mr. Hickok
replied, he would have to look to be sure but he thinks it met the minimum
standards for the district. It is a bit peculiar in that it is a single-family in a multi-family district,
but that was allowed by Code.
Mayor Lund
stated they are going to remove the house. Is it going to be green space?
Todd Ofsthun
, TCO Design, stated he represents AP Ventures. He stated they will provide a
landscape plan. It will be green space.
Mayor Lund
asked if they were going to expand.
Mr. Ofsthun
replied, the hope is that things will go well with parking, etc. A future attached
garage facility is kind of the wave of the future.
Mayor Lund
stated they are not going to increase or put in a Phase II or something because they
have extra land.
Mr. Ofsthun
stated if it was possible, they would propose that in the future and go through this
process again. The 15 beds is kind of a minimum with this type of facility. At this point, they
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were not really interested in building bigger. They want to get in on the site, get the facility up
and running, and do anything in the future down the road. They are a little stretched at this point.
Mayor Lund
stated if it was debated at the Planning Commission.
Mr. Hickok
stated there were questions about what goes on inside the facility.
Mayor Lund
stated one comment he heard from somebody right after the Planning Commission
meeting was from a neighbor who thought it was going to diminish their property values, but
they get that fairly frequently.
Mr. Hickok
replied he is always puzzled by that when you are talking about tearing down a
house that might have a value of about $75,000 and bringing in $2.5 million worth of new
investment. It is hard to imagine how you can see that bringing down your property values. It is
not a 15-unit apartment complex or anything like that. It is a well-designed, architecturally
correct building scale wise, and it has been designed to fit the scale of the neighborhood.
Mayor Lund
stated and then another issue about having more density; however, this was
already zoned for R-3.
Mr. Hickok
replied that is correct. An 8-unit standard apartment building could go on this same
site.
Councilmember Saefke
stated in taking a look at the house and garage that exists. He read they
are going to keep that garage.
Mr. Ofsthun
replied, yes.
Councilmember Saefke
stated hopefully they are going to get different siding and roof on it
which are compatible with the new building.
Mr. Ofsthun
replied yes, they will renovate it to match the new building.
Councilmember Barnette
stated he was out there today also and saw the same thing.
MOTION
by Councilmember Saefke to approve Special Use Permit Request, #14-07, by TCO
Design, with the following eight stipulations:
(1) The petitioner shall obtain all necessary permits prior to construction.
(2) The petitioner shall meet all building, fire, and ADA requirements.
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(3) City engineering staff to review and approve grading, drainage, and utility plan
prior to issuance of a building permit.
(4) Landscape and Irrigation plan to be reviewed and approved by City staff prior to
issuance of building permit.
(5) If on-street parking becomes an issue as a result of this use, the special use permit
and options for additional parking shall be further reviewed by the City Council at
the owner’s expense.
(6) If the comprehensive home health care use changes, the special use permit shall
be further reviewed by the City Council.
(7) The petitioner shall file the necessary documents with Anoka County to combine
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both of the lots involved in this project, 5300 and 5310 4 Street, prior to issuance
of a building permit.
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(8) The house at 5300 4 Street shall be removed within one year of issuance of a
building permit for the new building.
and Adopt Resolution No. 2015-16.
Seconded by Councilmember Bolkcom.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. Approve Agreement with Hoisington Koegler Group Inc. to Provide Phase 2 Site
Improvement Design for the Springbrook Nature Center SPRING Project (Ward
3).
Jack Kirk,
Parks and Recreation Director, stated the design and development are coming along
very nicely. Within the next few weeks they should be presenting some plans to the City
Council. He is here tonight with a proposal to have them consider an agreement with Hoisington
Koegler Group for Phase 2 of the site improvement. Project Phase 2 would be the outdoor
pavilion, the amphitheater, the plaza area. They are going to have an outdoor play area, some
outdoor classrooms, and there would be trail connections and lighting and furnishings that would
support those types of improvements. They think it is important that the Phase 2 and Phase 1 are
blended together, and that they are integrated properly when it comes especially to the location
of the facilities, the utilities, and where the trails are going to be. Hoisington Koegler are the
landscape architects who are working with Partners and Sirny, as they are doing the design
development for the building and the immediate surrounding area. Those two firms would be the
two architectural firms that would work on Phase 2 of the project as well.
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Mr. Kirk
stated he wanted to make sure they know the agreement they are looking at and the
cost was not included in the budget he presented to them back in August. This would be over
and above that. Therefore, he talked with the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation. They
have a letter in their packet tonight. The Springbrook Foundation will have the money in hand,
and they will pay for these architectural services. As to the Phase 2 design services, they have
talked with Hoisington Koegler. They have come up with a not to exceed number. It is very
likely it could be lower than that. That number is $66,225. They will bill them at an hourly rate.
As they redesign and look at some of the things and the schematics that were done four years
ago, it is possible some of those items could be at a lesser cost. The Springbrook Nature Center
Foundation has agreed to pay for this. They see this as a needed function to keep moving on the
SPRING project. He recommends the City Council approve the agreement with Hoisington
Koegler Group, Inc. to provide the Phase 2 site improvement design for the Springbrook Nature
Center project.
Councilmember Barnette
stated on page 96, a letter from Malcolm Mitchell, states very clearly
what Mr. Kirk said--that the City will be billed for an amount not to exceed $66,225. The critics
say but you cannot spend City money. Mr. Kirk answers that by indicating it is understood that
while the contract is with the City of Fridley, the payment of the fees for the services detailed in
this contract will be the responsibility of the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation. He thinks
that is important. Fridley City tax dollars will not be spent.
Mr. Kirk
stated the Foundation has been doing fundraising, and they do have the money for this.
He talked with members of the Foundation and said it is time to move on this, and they said they
have the money and are willing to support this.
MOTION
by Councilmember Bolkcom to approve the Agreement for Professional Services
with Hoisington Koegler Group Inc. to provide Phase 2 site improvement design for the
Springbrook Nature Center SPRING Project. Seconded by Councilmember Saefke.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. Resolution Designating Load Limits on City Streets in the City of Fridley,
Minnesota.
James Kosluchar,
Public Works Director,stated what he is asking Council to approve is a
resolution to avoid the annual requirement for load limit approval and just approve it for future
seasons. The load limit timeframes are established by MnDOT and passed along to the County
and City, and they conform to those timeframes. Rather than approve a resolution for streets
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with load limits annually and publish it in a newspaper, they will find some savings by putting
the map up on the website and allowing those who are concerned to contact staff..
Mayor Lund
stated this does make more sense because those who have the concerns of load
limits who carry heavy loads already know the formula that MnDOT has established.
Mr. Kosluchar
stated, finally, there is one paragraph in here as well that authorizes the Public
Works Department to issue an overweight permit in the case of hardship. The City does have
people who at times are building homes and during that time need to take delivery and created a
requirement for that. With the analysis they did on the heavy vehicle loading earlier this year,
staff is comfortable with establishing fees for those overages. Of course they would cover the
estimated damage to the pavement.
Councilmember Bolkcom
asked if they include a map are there any other streets they might
suddenly put on.
Mr. Kosluchar
replied, what they do is update this map annually, similar to what they have been
doing with the resolution. As they find more information on soils and as traffic patterns change,
those designations can be modified without repaving the streets.
MOTION
by Councilmember Saefke to adopt Resolution No. 2015-17. Seconded by
Councilmember Bolkcom.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10. Resolution in Support of Legislation Establishing an Early Voting Process for Votes
in Minnesota.
Walter Wysopal,
City Manager,stated this is an item the City Council has not taken any
definitive action on or discussed publicly in the past, so he felt it was appropriate to present it to
them and ask that they pass this resolution. This is a resolution dealing with what has been
called “establishing an early voting process.” City staff has been analyzing this and it has also
attended a committee meeting at the Legislature to promote it. The absentee ballot voting which
the City has is the “no excuse” ballot voting which was implemented in 2014. In 2014,
comparatively the City had a little bit lower turnout; however, it did have a higher absentee
voting taking place. It did indicate to the City that this process does encourage more people to
vote.
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Mr. Wysopal
stated the City conducts an in-person absentee ballot process. The County
conducts a mail absentee ballot process. They have an absentee ballot process 46 days before
each election. The City Clerk has identified there are 19 steps required for the in-person
absentee balloting at the City level. The voters place those ballots in an envelope as opposed to
putting them into a machine. There are additional steps taken at the County level to finish the
processing, including counting the absentee ballots. Voters find this process somewhat
cumbersome. There is some confusion about how it is done, and there are always security
concerns about their ballots because they are placed inside an envelope.
Mr. Wysopal
stated compared to early voting, the County would continue that absentee process
46 days before each election. The City would then conduct an early voting process 15 days
before an election. There would be 9 or 10 steps required for the early voting process compared
to the other process. The voter places the ballot into that tabulator. The voter has the
opportunity to correct the ballot if the vote tabulator returns the ballot. Then it provides the
firsthand knowledge that the ballot was counted. It is really important for the voter to feel that.
Mr. Wysopal
stated the early voting process cuts the 19 steps down to 10. There are about 137
voting hours required and brings down that cost per ballot to about $2.51. The voter has
firsthand knowledge the ballot was counted and the mail absentee process is still available to the
County.
Mr. Wysopal
stated they are making the recommendation today based on that analysis that it
would reduce the City costs and would make it more effective for the voters and perhaps increase
the participation in the voting. The goal is to provide the accessibility, the efficiency, and the
transparency in that process while providing a higher level of integrity and security.
Mr. Wysopal
stated staff is recommends Council adopt the resolution in support of the
legislation. If the Council approves this resolution, the City would then forward that onto the
appropriate agencies that are supporting this process.
MOTION
by Councilmember Barnette to adopt Resolution No. 2015-18. Seconded by
Councilmember Varichak.
ON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11. Informal Status Reports
Mr. Hickok
stated Wednesday will be the first of four workshops on Columbia Arena for
anyone interested in attending. This will be an opportunity to talk about Columbia Arena and
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what their vision of it should be and get their voice heard. It will be at the Community Center
and the meetings start at 6 p.m. Each one has its own purpose. Make the commitment and be a
part of all four meetings because one will build on the other. It will be a rewarding process.
Councilmember Bolkcom
asked Mr. Wysopal if he wanted to tell them about what was
happening with Call on the Council.
Mr. Wysopal
replied the Call on the Council program which has been aired for many years will
be coming to an end. They have been reviewing the effectiveness of the programs based on the
fact that they do not get too many calls from people. The City survey that was conducted last
year indicated that not many people utilize the program for updates. They are looking forward to
presenting a new program in April that will provide updates similarly in the way Call on the
Council did and also allow the City to do it more frequently and provide more in-depth analysis
on some of the issues.
ADJOURN:
MOTION
by Councilmember Barnette to adjourn. Seconded by Councilmember Varichak.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MAYOR LUND DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:12
P.M
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Respectfully submitted by,
Denise M. Johnson Scott J. Lund
Recording Secretary Mayor