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File Address/Description VAR #87-13 COMPLETE REVIEW CH KL®IST'
1520 Rice Creek Road RETURN ,T PLANNING
increase height of garage from 14' to 21'
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STATE OF MINNESOTA CITY COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS
COUNTY OF ANOKA
CITY OF FRIDLEY
In the Matter of a Variance, VAR #87-13
VARIANCE
James Dahl , Owner
The above entitled matter came before the City Council of the City of Fridley
and was heard on the lst day of June , 49 87 , on a
petition for a variance pursuant to the City of Fridleyts Zoning Ordinance,
for the following described property: Increase the maximum allowable height of an
accessory building from 14 feet to 16 feet (above grade) to allow the construction
of a detached garage on part of Lot 10, Auditor's Subdivision No. 22, the same
being 1520 Rice Creek Road.
IT IS ORDERED that a variance be granted as upon the following conditions or
reasons:
See City Council minutes of June 1, 1987.
STATE OF MINNESOTA )
COUNTY OF ANOKA )
CITY OF FRIDLEY )
OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
I, Shirley A. Haapala, City Clerk for the City of Fridley with and in for
said City of Fridley, do hereby certify that I have compared the foregoing
copy and Order granting a variance with the original record thereof preserved
in my office, and have found the same to be a correct and true transcript of
the whole thereof.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto subscribed my hand at the City of
Fridley, Minnesota, in the County of Anoka on the day of
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City of Fridley
6431 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
SHIRLEY A. HAA A, CITY CLE
Variances are valid for a period of one year following approval and shall be
considered void if not used within that period.
(SEAL)
COUNCIL MEETING OF JUNE 1, 1981
B-1. CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE, VAR #87-13. TO INCREASE
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C01TRUCTION OFA DETACHED GARAGE THE SAME BEING
1520 RICE CREEK ROAD N.E., BY JAMES DAHL:
W. Robertson, Community Development Director, stated this variance was
before the Appeals Commission on April 28. He stated the petitioner
requested a variance to increase the maximum allowable height of an
accessory building from 14 to 21 feet, and because there had been some
objection to the variance, the Appeals Commission tabled the item to May 12
so that the petitioner could meet with the neighbors. Mr. Robertson stated
the petitioner has now changed his request for a variance from the maximum
allowable height of an accessory building from 14 to 16 feet. He stated
was
reason this item is before the Council was because one of the neighbors
unable to attend the Appeals Commission meeting.
Neither the petitioner nor any neighbors were present at this meeting.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to concur with the unanimous recommendation
of the Appeals Commission and grant variance, VAR #87-13, to increase the
maximum allowable height of an accessory building from 14 to 16 feet (above
grade) to allow construction of a detached garage at 1520 Rice Creek Road.
Seconded by Councilwoman Jorgenson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
B-2. CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE, VAR #87-15, TO DECREASE THE
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10 FEET TO 5 FEET TO ALLOW THE 90 DEGREE AXIAI,_ROTATION
OF THE EXISTING FREE-STANDING SIGN TO ALLOW IT TO FACE !
AVENUE N.E . BY V OLUME SHOES CORPORATION:
Mr. Robertson, Community Development Director, stated thi s a request for
a variance to allow an increase in the maximum al wable size of two
informational signs, for ingress and egress, from f to eight square feet
each and reduce the setback from both the drive and property line from 10
to 5 feet. He stated a variance is also sted to allow rotation of the
existing free-standing sign in order r it to face 53rd Avenue. Mr.
Robertson stated the hardship state y the petitioner is they have no
direct access to their facility rom 53rd Avenue and these signs will
greatly facilitate ingress and ess to and from their parking area.
He
stated the only access to th acility is located to the west side of the
parking area and approxi ely 90 feet north of the access drive to the
shopping center proper from 53rd Avenue which causes some confusion to
customers seeking a ry to this facility.
Mr. Robertso stated this variance request was before the Appeals Commission
and they commended approval of reducing the setback from the driveway and
proper line from 10 to 5 feet on the south side of the driveway and gave
no commendation to reduce the setback from the driveway and property line
67 rom 10 to 5 feet r wash to thenthe north north vantedide of the to look atdsight linestouse seethe if itnwould
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James Dahl
1520 Rice Creek Road N. E.
Fridley, MDT 55432
June 15, 1987
On Juae 8, 1987 the Fridley City Council officially approved your request for
a variance, VAR #87-13, to increase the maximum allowable height of an
accessory building from 14 feet to 16 feet (above grade) to allow the
construction of a detached garage, on part of Lot 10, Auditor's Subdivision
No. 22, the same being 1520 Rice Creek Road N. E. with the following
stipulations:
None.
If you have any questions regarding the above action, please call the
Planning Department at 571-3450.
Sincerely,
James L. Robinson
Planning Coordinator
JLR/dm
Please review the noted stipulations, sign the statement below and return one
copy to the City of Fridley Planning Department by June 29, 1987.
Concur with action taken
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COUNCIL MEETING OF JUNE 1, 198T
B-1. CONSIDERATION OF A V ARIANCE, YAR #8T-13. TO INCREASE
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CONSTRUCTION OF A DETACHED GARAGE, THE SAME BEING
1520 RICE CREEK ROAD N E., BY JAMES DAHL:
Mr. Robertson, Community Development Director, stated this variance was
before the Appeals Commission on April 28. He stated the petitioner
requested a variance to increase the maximum allowable height of an
accessory building from 14 to 21 feet, and because there had been some
objection to the variance, the Appeals Commission tabled the item to May 12
so that the petitioner could meet with the neighbors. Mr. Robertson stated
the petitioner has now changed his request for a variance from the maximum
allowable height of an accessory building from 14 to 16 feet. He stated the
reason this item is before the Council was because one of the neighbors was
unable to attend the Appeals Commission meeting.
Neither the petitioner nor any neighbors were present at this meeting.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to concur with the unanimous recommendation
of the Appeals Commission and grant variance, VAR #8T-13, to increase the
maximum allowable height of an accessory building from 14 to 16 feet (above
grade) to allow construction of a detached garage at 1520 Rice Creek Road.
Seconded by Councilwoman Jorgenson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
B-2.
FEE
DIS
Mr. Robertson, Community Development Director, stated this is a request for
a variance to allow an increase in the ximum allowable size of two
informational signs, for ingress and egre s, from four to eight square feet
each and reduce the setback from both a driveway and property line from 10
to 5 feet. He stated a variance is so requested to allow rotation of the
existing free-standing sign in rder for it to face 53rd Avenue. Mr.
Robertson stated the hardship stated by the petitioner is they have no
direct access to their fac ity from 53rd Avenue and these signs will
greatly facilitate ingress nd egress to and from their parking area. He
stated the only access t the facility is located to the west side of the
parking area and appy imately 90 feet north of the access drive to the
shopping center pro rty from 53rd Avenue which causes some confusion to
customers seeking ntry to this facility.
Mr. Robertson tated this variance request was before the Appeals Commission
and they re mmended approval of reducing the setback from the driveway and
property ine from 10 to 5 feet on the south side of the driveway and gave
no recd ndation to reduce the setback from the driveway and property line
from 0 to 5 feet on the north side of the driveway, because the owner of
th car wash to the north wanted to look at sight lines to see if it would
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COUNCIL MEETING OF JUNE 1. 1987
interfere with his facility. He stated the Appeals Commission recommended
denial of the variances to increase the maximum size of the two
informational signs and to decrease the minimum distance from any pr perty
line or driveway from 10 to 5 feet to allow the 90 degree axialrot ion of
the existing free-standing sign.
Councilwoman Jorgenson stated this is such a busy intersectio and if the
sign is rotated, it may be more confusing for people on 53rd venue.
Mr. Jim Golden stated he was hired by the petitioner to i tall the sign, if
the variance was approved. He felt the sign at the so therly end of the
property would be beneficial for this business.
Mayor Nee asked if the owner of this building or th tenants were requesting
the variance. Mr. Golden stated approval has bee given by the owner of the
building that Payless could install the signage.
Mr. Branden, owner of the car wash to the nor of this property, stated he
did not have any objection to a sign for trance into the parking lot,
however, he would not be in favor of an e t sign, as it would only be 10
feet from this business. He also stated a would like the sign no more than
40 inches from the ground. He stat d if the sign is too high, it may
obstruct the vision of persons exiti his business.
Councilman Goodspeed stated he di t have a problem with the south sign if
the size remains within the code equirements and installed no higher than
40 inches from the ground. Mr. olden stated he would make sure the sign
meets these requirments.
MOTION by Councilman Goods d to deny the variances to increase the size of
the two informational sig s; to decrease the minimum distance from any
property line or driveway from 10 to 5 feet; to allow the 90 degree axial
rotation of the existin free-standing sign; and to reduce the setback from
the driveway and prope y line from 10 to 5 feet on the north side of the
driveway. Further, t grant the variance to reduce the setback from the
driveway and
pr
ty line from 10 to 5 feet on the south side of the
driveway for inst ation of one informational sign, with the condition it
be installed no igher than 40 inches from the ground. Seconded by
Councilman Fit atrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the m ion carried unanimously.
C. ITEM FROJ4 THE PARR &
C-1.
BURLINGTON NORTHERN PARK:
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to authorize the termination of the lease
with urlington Northern for Burlington Northern Park. Seconded by
Cour ilman Goodspeed. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
TION by Councilman Schneider to receive the minutes of the Planning
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CITY OF FRIDLEY,
APPEALS -COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 12, 1987
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Betzold called the May 12, 1987, Appeals Commission meeting to
order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Donald Betzold, Alex Barna, Sue Sherek, Diane Savage,
Kenneth Vos
Menbers Absent: None
Others Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
James Dahl, 1520 Rice Creek Rd.
Tom and Sally Rystedt, 5200 Lincoln St. N.E.
Steve Billings, 5215 Lincoln St. N.E.
Michael Malan, 1501 Arvada Dr., Richardson, Texas
Robert Fisher, 565 Cheri Lane N.E.
Rod and Dorothy Brannon, 1622 Innsbruck Parkway
APPROVAL OF APRIL 28, 1987, APPEALS C0MMISSION MINUTES:
NOTION by fir. Barna, seconded by Dr. Vos, to approve the April 28, 1987,
Appeals Conmission minutes as written.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Betzold declared the motion
carried unanimously.
1. CONTINUATION OF A VARIANCE REQUEST, VAR #87-13, BY JAMES DAHL, PURSUANT
FEET
110TION by Dr.: Vos, seconded by Mr. Sherek, to remove VAR #87-13 from the
table.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Betzold declared the motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Sherek, to reopen the public hearing .
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Betzold declared the public
hearing open at 7:32 p.m.
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APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 12, 1987 PAGE 2
Mr. Clark stated he believed the petitioner had met with one of the concerned
neighbors, Mr. Svanda. The other concerned neighbor did not attend that
meeting. It was his understanding that Mr. Dahl and Mr. Svanda had reached
an agreement; however, Por. Svanda could not be at this meeting. The agree-
ment reached was to locate the garage in approximately the same location the
petitioner originally wanted --in the southwest corner of the lot where the
old garage had been. The height of the garage would be around 16 ft. That
meant the garage walls would be reduced from the top plate to the floor to
9 ft. with a roof pitch of 5/12.
Mr. Dahl stated he had set up a meeting with his neighbors; however, one
neighbor did not come. The neighbor directly south of the proposed garage
said it would look better if the garage was a little shorter, because his
house was only about 21 ft. high. They agreed to drop the height of the
garage to around 16 ft.
Mr. Dahl stated that at the last meeting, the Commissioners had suggested he
move the garage to another location on the lot. The reason he had decided
against that was he would have to put in another underground electrical line.
There ►vas already an underground line to the old garage location, plus he would
have to tear up the old driveway. He had also decided not to go below grade
because he would have to hire a cat to come in and dig the hole.
Mr. Betzold stated that at the last meeting, Ms. Savage had wanted the hard-
ship described a little better.
Mr. Dahl stated he wanted a nice looking garage and a nice sized garage. He
needed the garage space for his van and other storage. The pitch of the roof
for a 28 ft, x 26 ft. garage could be a lot lower, but construction -wise, it
was best to have a steeper peak because of the weight of the snow in the winter.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Sherek, to close the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Betzold declared the public
hearing closed at 7:40 p.m.
Ms. Savage stated that the variance being requested was now down to 16 ft.,
only 2 ft. higher than code, and the most affected neighbor has agreed to that.
Mr. Betzold stated that at the last meeting, Mr. & Mrs. Phillips had objected
to the height of the garage. For one reason or another, they were unable to
attend the meeting set up by Mr. Dahl. He wondered if this constituted a
neighborhood objection, in which case this would have to go to City Council
for final approval.
Mr. Barna stated he felt they would have to consider that a neighborhood objec-
tion, even though the neighbor was not at this meeting either. They do not
have anything in writing or verbally to indicate that this neighbor no longer
objected to the variance.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 12, 1987 PAGE 3
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Sherek, to recommend to City Council
approval of variance request, VAR #87-13, by James Dahl, pursuant to
Chapter 205.07.1, B, 3, of the Fridley City Code to increase the maximum
allowable height of an accessory building from 14 feet to 16 feet (above
grade) to allow the construction of a detached garage, on part of Lot 10,
Auditor's Subdivision #22, the same being 1520 Rice Creek Road N.E.,
Fridley, Minnesota 55432.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Betzold declared the motion
carried unanimously.
Mr. Betzold stated this item would go to City Council on June 1.
2. CO1JSIDCP.ATION OF A
CHAPTER 205.07.
RYSTE T, PURSUANT
MOTION by 1°9os. Savage, seconded by Mr. Barna, to open /fhe public hearing.
Upon a voice v te, all voting aye, Chairperso/Be old declared the public
hearing open at 45 P.14Chairperson Betzold ead the Administrative Seport:
DINISTRATIVE STAFF PORT
52 LINCOLN STREE N.E.
VAR #87-14
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY RSOUIREXENT:
Section 205.07.03. D, 1, req es a front yard setback of not less than
35 feet.
The public purpose servo by this r quirement is to allow for off-street
parking without encroa ing on the p lic right-of-way and also for
aesthetic considerate n to reduce the ilding 'line of sight" encroach-
ment into the neigh is front yard.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"Existing gara a is not capable of holding two ars. I have personal
property in ed of storage. The existing drive ay is to be replaced
during cons uction; it will be replaced with con ete."
C. ADNINISTRArIVE STAFF REVIEW:
If this) addition is constructed, it will not be in the lNoe of sight
from ther of the two adjacent homes because of the curve`in the street.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 12, 1987 'PAGE 4
Bec use of the driven portion of the street parallels the opposite right -
0 f -w line, the boulevard on this side of the street is very large
(about 45 feet). Therefore, the new addition would still be about 70
feet fro the curb.
If the Appe is Commission approves this request, Staff has no stipula-
tions to sum\othie
Mr. Clark stt as stated in the Administrative Staff Review, the
right-of-wayodd shape; there was a different radius on the outside
than there winside. The city street.paralleled the property
line across et which had enlarged the boulevard about 45 ft. Ifthe garage wructed, it would not be seen by the houses on either
side.
Mr. Rystedt stated th existing garage was 19 ft. x 20 ft. He has a 20 ft.
boat and two cars. He annot get the boat into the existing garage at all,
but the new garage coul hold both his boat and his two cars. He would
also construct a concrete driveway. He stated he had just bought the
property which was pretty un down. He was putting in landscaping and
trying to improve the prope ty.
Mr. Betzold stated the petitier could expand his existing garage toward
the lot line another 5 ft. whi h would make the existing garage 24 ft. wide.
Mr. Rystedt stated there were tw reasons for not expanding his existing
garage. First was the expense in 'ust expanding 5 ft., and the other
was that a 24 ft. wide garage would not take care of his needs for storage.
He stated he thought his garage adds ion would improve the looks of the
house by making it look like an L-shaoVd rambler.
Mr. Clark stated the distance from the c`grb to the proposed garage addition
would still be about 70 ft. The petitionkr has a 95 ft. driveway now.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Dr. Vos, td\close the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson\Betzold declared the
public hearing closed at 7:56 p.m.
Mr. Barna stated the Commission has previously use the need for storage
space and a small garage not up to the present code size as a hardship
more than anything else in his experience on the A*alosCommission.
He stated he agreed it was easier to match into a of from the front
side than it was to tear off a hip roof and expand it\asfar
o, he felt
the additional need for storage space and the construcstraints were
definite hardships. Obviously, the code was satisfied as front yard
line of sight encroachment to the neighbors, and as fastance from
the street, due to an extremely wide boulevard, he felpart of the
code was also satisfied. He would be in favor of grane variance.
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Bec use of the driven portion of the street parallels the opposite right -
0 f -w line, the boulevard on this side of the street is very large
(about 45 feet). Therefore, the new addition would still be about 70
feet fro the curb.
If the Appe is Commission approves this request, Staff has no stipula-
tions to sum\othie
Mr. Clark stt as stated in the Administrative Staff Review, the
right-of-wayodd shape; there was a different radius on the outside
than there winside. The city street.paralleled the property
line across et which had enlarged the boulevard about 45 ft. Ifthe garage wructed, it would not be seen by the houses on either
side.
Mr. Rystedt stated th existing garage was 19 ft. x 20 ft. He has a 20 ft.
boat and two cars. He annot get the boat into the existing garage at all,
but the new garage coul hold both his boat and his two cars. He would
also construct a concrete driveway. He stated he had just bought the
property which was pretty un down. He was putting in landscaping and
trying to improve the prope ty.
Mr. Betzold stated the petitier could expand his existing garage toward
the lot line another 5 ft. whi h would make the existing garage 24 ft. wide.
Mr. Rystedt stated there were tw reasons for not expanding his existing
garage. First was the expense in 'ust expanding 5 ft., and the other
was that a 24 ft. wide garage would not take care of his needs for storage.
He stated he thought his garage adds ion would improve the looks of the
house by making it look like an L-shaoVd rambler.
Mr. Clark stated the distance from the c`grb to the proposed garage addition
would still be about 70 ft. The petitionkr has a 95 ft. driveway now.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Dr. Vos, td\close the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson\Betzold declared the
public hearing closed at 7:56 p.m.
Mr. Barna stated the Commission has previously use the need for storage
space and a small garage not up to the present code size as a hardship
more than anything else in his experience on the A*alosCommission.
He stated he agreed it was easier to match into a of from the front
side than it was to tear off a hip roof and expand it\asfar
o, he felt
the additional need for storage space and the construcstraints were
definite hardships. Obviously, the code was satisfied as front yard
line of sight encroachment to the neighbors, and as fastance from
the street, due to an extremely wide boulevard, he felpart of the
code was also satisfied. He would be in favor of grane variance.
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COP41ISSION MEETING, APRIL 28, 1987
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Betzold called the April 28, 1987, Appeals Commission meetinq to
order at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Donald Betzold, Alex Barna, Jerry Sherek, Diane Savage
Kenneth Vos
Menbers Absent: None
Others Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
James Dahl. 1520 Rice Creek Road
Richard Svanda, 1521 Woodside Court
Chris and Kathie Phillips, 6240 Rice Creek Dr.
APPROVAL OF APRIL 14, 1987, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY MR. SHEREK, TO APPROVE THE APRIL 14, 1987,
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REQUEST, VAR #87=13, BY JAMES DAHL, PURSUANT
TO CHAPTER 205.07.1, B, 3, OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO INCREASE THE
MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF AN ACCESSORY BUILDING FROM 14 FEET TO 21 FEET
ABOVE GRADE TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN DETACHED GARAGE ON PART OF
L0� 10, AUDITOR SUBDIVISION 22, THE SAME BEING 1520 RICE CREEK ROAD,
FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY DR. VOS, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:34 P.M.
Chairperson Betzold read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
1520 RICE CREEK ROAD N.E.
VAR #87-13
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APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 28, 1987 PAGE 2
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.07.1, B, 3, requires that a maximum height for all accessory
buildings not exceed 14 feet above grade.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"The height should be 10 feet --high enough to drive van in and to store
my boat. The peak is for a new style design."
C. AD11INISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
Not only does the petitioner want a high ceiling height, but he would
like to match the high pitch on his house. The addition also adds to
the height of the garage.
If the Appeals Commission approves this request, the Staff has no
stipulations to suggest.
Mr. Clark showed an aerial photo of the property and the surrounding properties.
There was an old garage which had been torn down, and the petitioner would like
to build the new garage in approximately the same location in the southwest
corner of the lot. He stated the height of the garage walls as proposed was
10 ft., and if the petitioner were to propose a 12/12 pitch, the height of the
garage would be 23 ft. fron the peak to the floor.
Mr. Clark stated the neighbors do have -a concern about that high a garage next
to their backyards. He stated there were a couple of ways the height could
be lowered: (1) drop the pitch to a 6/12 which would make the ridge height
17 ft.; or (2) drop the pitch to 5/12 which would make the ridge height 16 ft.
Mr. Clark stated that as the Appeals Commission members had probably noticed,
there was quite a high elevation going from Rice Creek Road up to where the
garage was proposed. If the new slab of the garage was put into the ground
about 1 ft. so the front of the garage would be 16-17 ft., but the other three
tides would be buried about 1 ft., the 10 ft. wall height would be reduced by
1 ft. and they would be looking at a 9 ft. vertical wall with a 5/12 or 6/12
or 4/12 pitched roof. Part of the additional height was because this was a
28 ft. wide garage. The wider the garage, the higher the ridge height.
Mr. James Dahl stated this was a very nice neighborhood, and he would like to
build a nice garage. Some of the newer houses in the area have higher pitched
roofs, and he would like to match up with some of the newer houses in the area
which seemed to be the style.
Mr. Clark stated a,6/12 pitch was a pretty popular pitch.
Mr. Dahl stated this was a 28 ft. wide garage. With a 14 ft. roof height, the
lower the pitch. With this wide a garage, he needed a higher pitch. A steeper
roof was better to handle the weight of the snow in the wintertime and for snow
removal. But, mainly his reason for the height was for style.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 28, 1987 PAGE 3
Mr. Betzold asked that if Mr. Dahl was required to build within the 14 ft.
roof height limit, would he still be able to build his garage?
Mr. Dahl stated if he had to stay within the 14 ft. roof height, he would have
to make the garage smaller and he needed the size to store his van and boat.
Mr. Clark stated that with a 4/12 pitch on a 28 ft. wide garage and 10 ft.
high walls, the lowest Mr. Dahl could go would be 15 ft. So, he either had
to reduce the width of the garage or reduce the height of the walls.
Mr. Barna stated that for good construction practices on a garage this wide,
it was definitely better to have a higher pitch. But, as Mr. Clark had
suggested, the petitioner could put part of the garage 1 ft. below grade. It
would also be cheaper to do that.
Dr. Vos asked why the petitioner was putting the garage on the highest point
of his property in the southwest corner. Why not locate the garage on the
southeast corner?
Mr. Dahl stated his neighbor in the southeast corner has a low spot and already
has drainage problems. Locating the garage there would probably cause more
drainage problems for his neighbor.
Mr. Barna suggested that Mr. Dahl locate his garage on the radius (where the
curve begins) of the present driveway. If the petitioner was going to build
such a nice -looking garage, he should put it where it can be seen from the
road and enhance the house, not way back in the corner of the lot where no one
can see it but the neighbors who do not want to.
Mr. Svanda, 1521 Woodside Court, stated he lived in the house just due north of
the proposed garage. To put this into perspective, he had looked at his two-
story Colonial -style house, and the east side of his house was about 25 ft.
high which was only a few feet higher than the height proposed for this garage.
Mr. Svanda stated by putting the garage where it was proposed, it would be
about 28 ft. due north from his house which was 28 ft. due north of his living
room, kitchen, family room, and one bedroom.
Mr. Svanda stated he absolutely had no problem with Mr. Dahl putting up a
garage. He stated Mr. Dahl has been a good neighbor and has done a wonderful
job in improving the lot. fir. Dahl tore down the old garage which was on a
dirt slab and was an eyesore. However, he stated he would prefer to have the
garage moved a little from where it was proposed, but he would not oppose it
in the proposed location. He would just prefer to have the garage lower in
height.
Mr. Svanda stated that, as mentioned by Mr. Clark, one way of dealing with
the height problem was to bury part of the garage about 1 ft. below grade and
go with a 5/12 or 6/12 pitch. He stated his garage had a 4/12 pitch and was
26 ft. wide. He had not had a problem with show. Having the garage moved
down further as suggested by Mr. Barna and Dr. Vos would save the petitioner
a little cost on putting in a long driveway.
IV
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 28, 1987 PAGE 4
Ms. Kathie Phillips, 6240 Rice Creek Drive, stated they live directly south
of the Svanda's. They also have a problem with the height of the garage.
They see the southwest corner of the garage from their dining room, porch,
and kitchen windows across the back of the Svanda's lot. It did not see that
far away --maybe 35 ft. or so --from their house. The height as proposed would
be offensive looking from their house.
Ms. Phillips'stated they would like to see the garage either the standard
height (14 ft.) or moved somewhere else on the lot so the new garage would
not be quite,'as close to their houses.
Ms. Phillips stated she has been in real estate for 13 years and having a
garage that high in the proposed location might cause a resale problem for
the Svanda's. The Svanda's backyard was not very deep.
Mr. Betzold stated that because of the concerns of the neighbors, this item
would have to go on to City Council. He stated the petitioner had two
options: (1) The Appeals Commission could table this item to give Mr. Dahl
an opportunity to talk more with his neighbors and come up with an alternative
plan, and the Commission would reschedule this hearing at a later date; or,
(2) the Commission could proceed with their recommendation, but it would have
to go to the City Council for the City Council's consideration and final
decision.
Mr. Dahl stated he thought it would be best to work things out so the neighbors
were satisfied.
Mr. Barna stated that after looking at fir. Dahl's house, he felt a chalet -style
garage would look very nice near the house. He would recommend Mr. Dahl locate
it right where the driveway started to curve so it could be seen from Rice
Creek Road. It would also shorten the driveway by about 30%.
Mr. Barna asked Mr. Svanda if he would object to the 21 ft. height if the garage
was located closer to the house.
Mr. Svanda stated it still seemed kind of high, but at that location the
structure would have to be built somewhat into the ground because of the elevation
so it would not be as high above grade.
Mr. Clark stated he would be willing to come out and shoot the elevation in
order to determine if the roof of the garage would be higher, lower, or the
same height as Mr. Svanda's house roof.
MOTION BY DR. VOS, SECONDED.BY MR. BARNA, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:10 P.M.
Dr. Vos stated that from this discussion, he felt it would be best to table
this item in order to give the petitioner an opportunity to talk to his
neighbors and come up with a better placement for the garage that would please
both the neighbors and Mr. Dahl.
" APPEALS COIIMISSIO14 MEETING, APRIL 28, 1987 PAGE 5
Ms. Savage stated she would like to have the hardship explained.
Mr. Barna stated the hardship was the expanse of a lower pitch and more
strain on the garage walls with a 28 ft. wide garage. The code really did
not address a detached garage at this width. Basically, the code addressed
a maximum of 22 ft. in width with a normal 4112 pitch.
Mr. Sherek stated if the garage was moved to the location nearer the house
and the hardship was as stated by Mr. Barna, he would be in favor of a chalet -
style garage. With the existing terrain and the present style house, a chalet -
style garage would be the best match. It appeared to him that the location
nearer the house would be in the neighbors' best interest even with the full
height as proposed because it would cause less of a problem as far as blocking
the view and being too close to the neighbors' houses.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY 19R. SHEREK, TO TABLE VARIANCE REQUEST.-
VAR
EQUEST,VAR #87-13, BY JAMES DAHL UNTIL THE MAY 12, 1987, APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY DR. VOS,.SECONDED BY MR. SHEREK, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING, UPON A VOICE
VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE APRIL 28, 1987, APPEALS
COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:15 P.M.
Respectfully submi ted,
Lynnd 17aba'
Recording Secretary
Item #1, May 12 , 1987
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
1520 RICE CREEK ROAD N. E.
VAR #87-13
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREM M:
Section 205.07.1, B, 3 requires that a maximum height for all accessory
buildings not exceed 14 feet above grade.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"The height should be 10 feet --high enough to drive van in and to store
my boat. The peak is for a new style design."
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
Not only does the petitioner want a high ceiling height, but he would
like to match the high pitch on his house. ?he addition also adds to
the height of the garage.
If the Appeals Commission approves this request the staff has no
stipulations to suggest.
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LEGAL DESCRIPTION:
LOT I— BLOCK TRACTIADDITION
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variance(s), where applicable.
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CIVIC CENTER • 6431 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432 • PHONE (612) 571-3450
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
Notice is hereby given that the Appeals .,ommission of the City of Fridley
will conduct a Public Hearing in the City Council Chambers at 6431 University
Avenue Northeast at 7:30 p.m. on Tuesday, April 28, 1987, in regard to the
following matter:
Consideration of a variance request, VAR #87-13p, by James
Dahl, pursuant to Chapter 205.07.1, B, 3, of the Fridley City
Code, to increase the maximum allowable height of an
accessory building from 14 feet to 21 feet (above grade) to
allow the construction of a detached garage, on part of lot
10, Auditor's Subdivision #22, the same being 1520 Rice Creek
Road, Fridley, Minnesota, 55432.
Notice is hereby given that all persons having an interest therein will be
given the opportunity to be heard at the above time and place.
DONALD BETLCLD
CHAIRMAN
APPEALS CDMMISS10N
Note: The appeals Commission will have the final action on this request,
unless there are objections from surrounding neighbors, the City Staft, or
the petitioner does not agree with the Commission's decision. If any of
these events occur, the request will continue to the City Council through the
Planning Commission with only a recommendation from the Appeals Commission.
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1520 Rice Creek Road N.E.
Appeals 4/14/87
James Dahl
Joseph Hoesley
Barbara Hansen
1520 Rice Creek Road
1581 Woodside Court
1580 Rice Creek Road
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Hjalmer Anderson
Naresh Chandan
Ronald Marsh
1491 Rice Creek Road
1561 Rice Creek Road
1490 Rice Creek Road
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Paula_ Scott -Neuman
Larue Cooke
James Ring
1501 Rice Creek Road
6310 Squire Drive
1500 Rice Creek Road
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Frank Massebrano
Allan Singer
Steven Resch
1550 Camelot Lane
1450 RiceCreek Road,
8535 Central Ave N.E.
Fridley, MN. 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Dennis Rens
Ralph Menard
Lawrence Bloomberg
1540 Camelot Lane
6259 Kerry Lane
1531 Woodside Court
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
James Strande
Edward Clark
Richard Svanda
1520 Camelot Lane
6251 Kerry Lane
1521 Woodside Court
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley,, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Craig Heieren
Gary Obrycki
Kathleen McGee
1521 Rice Creek Road
6267 Kerry Lane
6240 Rice Creek Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Willard Kastensen
Theodore Theilman
Dennis Forstrom
1541 Rice Creek Road
1540 Rice Creek Road
6230 Rice Creek Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, RIN 55432
Darrell Cedarholm
Lester Chies
Daniel Ceynowa
1551 Rice Creek Road
1530 Rice Creek Road
6221 Rice Creek Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
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STATE: Minnesota
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CONSTRUCTION TYPE: Single Family
DATE: 09110104
COMPLIANCE: Posso
Maximum UA = 79
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Basement Wall 1! Masonry Block w/ Integral Insulation
Wall height: 6.0'
Depth below grade: 4.0'
Insulavon depth: 6.0,
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COMPLIANCE STATEWNT: The proposed building design described here is consistent with the
building plans, specs$cations, and other calculations submitted with the permit application. The proposed
building has been designed to meet the 2000 Minnesota Energy Code requirements in RE90mck-Wab and
to comply with the mandatory r q iiroalent8 listed in Soh k IaWcation Checklist.
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