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LS 79-03I 6431 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432 TELEPHONE (612)571-3450 August 24, 1979 CITY U,I.l,'XIL ACTION TAKEN NOTICE Mr. & Mrs. John Estling 6440 Riverview Terrace N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Dear Mr. & Mrs. Estling: On August 20, 1979 _ _ ,�• F�"i;i'iey CityCou�!ci1 Ct:' C ti.'+•J i 1,y' iit;3i iZ'rv`(3 y0UY' 2";C;JE:St for the S :;_lulat uns listed below. ' -he noted stipulations, Si9r, the state—m:?Cit ieio'J. re—ICU17, 0',16 CflPY to th6 City of Fridley. s� YOU t1+:tve •?4'i,`,:''.i�ii:St'.C?Y3S i'�`C?rCiil:�.'iii'.? c'17i+'dL it;..on. ;l --r-*, rail Ole Conmr,unity Oev, -)purer;t Office at 5a1-345)3. Si ncerel v J1 U Jae t_i�tif`3l`i: 1. The 6•foot utility easement to the north of the property line will be retained by the City. . Concur :'r3 �s, actl on take 243 REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 20, 1979 PAGE 4 Mayor Nee asked if they would consider moving the driveway farther to the east and more towards the corner. Mr. Ferguson stated he is sure they wouldn't mind moving it, but that the expense might be a problem and factor to consider. Councilman Schneider asked Mr. Ferguson if he felt there was no compromise or middle ground. Mr. Ferguson felt there are things they could work on and that other things would be more valuable than a chain in solving some of the other problems mentioned. Councilman Schneider stated his concern is the noise and asked what they would propose as an alternative to chaining or closing off the driveway or removing the driveway permanently. Mr. Ferguson stated he has a hard time understanding what the problem is as he felt there isn't any problem with the noise. Mayor Nee stated he has to assume if there isn't any problem, Mr. Rejman wouldn't be here. Mr. Ferguson felt he got tones of other problems that are creating this impasse. Councilman Schneider stated he hated to delay the opening of the center, but asked if they would prefer it be tabled to try and work out a compromise. He felt something should be worked out that specifically addressed Mr. Rejman's problem with the noise. Mr. Ferguson stated he felt this item should be tabled until the next meeting. MOTION by Councilman Schneider to table this request by Fridley Methodist Church for a special use permit until September 10, 1979. Seconded by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, LS #79-03, BY JOHN AND GAIL ESTLING 6440 RIVERVIEW TERRACE): Mr. •Qureshi, City Manager, stated this is a request for a lot split to split off the westerly 20 feet of Lot 1, Block 1, Viet's Addition, and add it to the property to the west. Mr. Qureshi stated the Planning Commission has recom- mended approval of this request and indicated that the staff would work with the property owner to see that this 20 foot portion and the parcel to the west to which it is proposed to be attached gets one parcel number. MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to concur with the recommendation of the Planning Commission and grant Lot Split #79-03. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES OF JULY 17, 1979: Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated the Environmental Quality Commission has recommended that the City become a member of the North Management Committee. Councilman Schneider asked what is involved and the costs for becoming a member. Councilman Fitzpatrick stated a group of other governmental bodies did pay for a consultant's investigation and report and Fridley did not participate in this and, as a result, had trouble getting the report. He stated, one of the reasons the City didn't participate was that it didn't involve Fridley, since the river crossing was proposed farther North, but it seems to have gotten closer to Fridley which now involves the City more. Mr. Qureshi stated all the meetings that are held are open and the City staff has been attending the meetings and keeping up with the developments. He stated, even if the City is on the Management Committee, it wouldn't have any impact because we would be in the minority. He stated, originally, when the concept was conceived, the City was part of the original team regarding the concept of the Northtown Corridor, however, when it was determined it wouldn't be in Fridley, the only involvement of the City was attending the meetings. He stated it has come down tQ three alternatives that are being considered and 242 REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 20, 1979 PAGE 3 Mr. Alfred Reiman, 633 Bennett Drive, stated his bedroom is located right next to the church property and pointed out that his wife works nights and comes home around 2 A.M. and felt, with the traffic from the day care center, they had to shut off this exit on Bennett Drive or put up some fence for the noise. Councilman Schneider stated he has driven through the church's parking lot and would agree with Mr. Rejman that the driveway to Bennett Drive is extremely close to Mr. Rejman's house. He stated he would support the chaining of the driveway and asked Mr. Reiman if he felt this would help. Mr. Reiman stated he felt it would help some, but that they would hear some of the noise and have the lights from the cars. Mr. Ferguson felt.that 90-95% of the people would use Monroe Street because it is closer to Mississippi. He felt for the few cars that would go through, it wasn't worth chaining the driveway. Councilman Schneider questioned if it was necessary to even have the driveway to Bennett Drive, if there were so few cars using it. Mr. Ferguson felt it was necessary for other activities and snow plowing and funerals. Councilman Schneider questioned if this special use permit was approved, with all the stipulations as recommended by the Planning Commission, if they would have their day care center. Mr. Ferguson stated that really wouldn't be his decision. Mr. Ferguson stated he couldn't see why the property should be restricted for a limited number of cars. He thought the type of people that will be coming to the center aren't the ones turning the place into a racetrack. He felt, if people abuse their cars in the parking lot, they would be the first ones to reprimand them. He felt the noise from the cars, if they.use the exit on Bennett Drive, would be very minimal, but couldn't guarantee it. Mayor Nee stated his problem with the chain is he felt it was dangerous. Mr. Ferguson stated they felt also it is a question of liability of the put up the chain. Councilman Schneider felt the concern, as he. understands it, is the noise of the cars less than 10 feet from Mr. Reiman's window. He pointed out setbacks are required in front and rear yards to try and prevent these situations. He stated they have an unanimous recommendation from the Planning Commission and, in the spirit of cooperation, hoped the church would be willing to try this as the purpose of the special use permit is to handle exactly these kinds of situations. Councilwoman Moses suggested possibly the use of saw horses rather than a chain. Mr. Ferguson stated there is still the problem of maintaining it. He felt a barricade of any sort just attracts trouble. Cduncilwoman Moses asked Mr. Ferguson if he had another method to propose to keep the traffic out from under Mr. Rejman's window. Mr. Ferguson stated he didn't think this is a problem, but that there are other problems forcing this issue, such as the bus, which they will be getting rid of shortly, the condition of the parking lot and the shrubbery. Mr. Ferguson stated he would agree there could be more shrubbery, but didn't like the idea of chaining the driveway. Councilman Schneider stated he would like to see a solution which is acceptable to both the church and Mr. Rejman. He stated he sympathized with Mr. Rejman and felt he had a valid concern.