SP 73-10Planning Commission Meeting - October 17, 1973 Page 2
RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS -DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES:
SEPTEMBER.27, 1973
MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Harris, that the Planning
Commission receive the minutes of the Building Standards -Design
Control Subcommittee meeting of September 27, 1973. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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1. PUBLIC HEARING: A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #73-10
(l BY TRYGVE OLSEN: per Fridley City Code, Section 45.051, 2, A,
to allow construction of a second accessory building, a shed
to be used for the storage of tools, on Lot 4, Block 1, River -
wood Manor Addition, the same being 7145 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Mr. Trygve Olsen was present to present his request.
MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning
Commission waive the reading of the Public Hearing notice on the
request for a Special Use Permit, SP #73-10, by Trygve Olsen. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Clark gave the plans submitted by.Mr. Olsen to the
Inspection Department to the Planning Commission to look at so
they could see what type of building Mr. Olsen wanted to build.
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Olsen how'. he intended to use this
building. Mr. Olsen said it was for storage of lawn equipment,
a boat, and a saw..
Mr. Harris asked if this building would have electricity and
heat. Mr. Olsen said it would have electricity, but would not be heated.
Mr. Fitzpatrick asked what the first accessory building was.
Mr. Clark said it was the attached garage.
Mr. Lindblad asked if this building would have a cement floor.
Mr. Olsen said it would and it wouldn't have the pillars as shown
on the plan. Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Clark if this cement slab would
have to have footings for this size building. Mr. Clark said a
floating slab was approved by the State Code.
Mr. Clark said there were notices sent to the neighbors and
the City hadn't received any calls about this. He asked Mr. Olsen
if he had talked to any of his neighbors about this request. Mr.
Olsen said.there wasn't any opposition from the neighbors.
Mr. Harris asked about the exterior of the building. Mr. Olsen
said it would be rough cedar. His home is stucco with rough cedar
trim. Mr. Harris said this building will blend in then.
Mr. Lindblad asked Mr. Olsen if he was going to construct this
building himself. Mr. Olsen said he was.
. Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Olsen if he had a wood working hobby. Mr.
Olsen said he did. Mr. Harris said he hoped Mr. Olsen was not going
to operate a cabinet shop or similar business from this building. Mr.
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Olsen said this building was not going to be used for any kind
of business.
Mr. Drigans said he noted on the survey that there was a
fence on part of the lot. Mr.. Olsen said that fence belonged
to his neighbor who has a swimming pool. Mr. Drigans said there
was no fence between the school property and Mr. Olsen's. Mr.
Olsen said the children were always supervised when they played
close to his property.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said he thought this building might be an '
attraction for children because of it's placement on the lot, but
if the children were always supervised this evidently would be no
problem.
Mr. Harris asked if there were any drainage problems on this
lot. Mr. Clark said there wasn't:
MOTION by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning
Commission close the Public Hearing on the request for a Special
Use Permit, SP #73-10, by Trygve Olsen., Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Harris said he had no objection to this request. It
was a nice looking building. He said he thought a stipulation
should be made that there would be no business operated from this
structure.
MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Drigans, that the Planning
Commission recommend to the Council approval of the.requ.est for
a Special Use Permit, SP #73-10, by Trygve Olsen, per Fridley
City Code, Section 45.051, 2, A, to allow construction of a second
accessory building, a shed to be used for the storage of tools,
on Lot 4, Block 1, Riverwood Manor Addition, the same being 7145
Riverview Terrace N.E., with the stipulation that no business be
operated from this structure. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
the motion carried unanimously.
2. CONTINUED: REVIEW OF CREEK AND RIVER PRESERVATION MANAGEMENT
nPnTRTAMP
Mr. Jerrold Boardman made the presentation.
Mr. Boardman said tahe main purpose of this ordinance was to
meet the State requirement to have a flood management program. This
is required of all cities that have had any type of flooding. The
Department of Natural.Resources hasn't gotten around to the cities
that haven't set these up, but they will.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said he thought this legislation was passed
in 1971.
Mr. Boardman said we designated the areas that were inundated
by floods according to the Army Corp. of Engineer's report. The
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The City Attorney said if it would be the consensus of the Council, and by Councilman
Nee, the Acting City Manager could send Mr. Doyle a letter summarizing the consensus
of the Council and their concerns which have appeared within the discussion at the
present meeting. This would put the intentions and concerns of the Council and the
people in writing, there would be something on record. Mayor Liebl asked if this
would include the waving the requirement on sign limitation. The City Attorney agreed,
but indicated no sign size had been discussed at the present time. He suggested
some indication of the proposed size so the staff would have an idea what the
Council had agreed to. He said Mr. Doyle should state that this would be under the
conditions that his son would live in the home. He said if this was done at the
present time, the applicant would not have to come back to the Council for further
discussion.
Mr. Carson said he -had asked Mr. Doyle what size sign would be installed and Mr.
Doyle answered he would prefer a four by six foot sign. Mayor Liebl said the
applicant would want the people to know there is a real estate business there.
The City Attorney suggested either a three by five, or a four by four sign, this
would allow for about the same square footage. Councilman Utter suggested a three
by four foot sign.
MOTION by Councilman Nee to authorize the Acting City Manager to summarize the
discussion at the present Council meeting in letter form to be submitted to Mr.
Doyle, and .advise Mr. Doyle that if his son is in residence, the Council would
waive the sign ordinance to allow the construction of a sign comparable to the
square footage on the DeGardner sign (The DeGardner sign was measured by the
inspection department, and this sign is three by four or twelve square feet).
Seconded by Councilman Utter.
The City Engineer said he would write such a notice to Mr. Doyle. He questioned
if the stipulations from the petition should be those indicated in the communication
to Mr. Doyle. He said he felt this is what the neighbors want as they had signed the
petition. He questioned if all the other stipulations such as the bumper curbing
should be included in the stipulations. He indicated the crushed rock would be
stabilized base.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye; Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Councilman Nee to direct the Planning Department to begin the planning
process in the neighborhood and provide the people with some concepts for direction.
Mayor Liebl said this would include the entire area from south of Mississippi to
61st.
SECONDED by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl
declared the motion carried unanimously.
IDERATION OF DESIGNWARE INDUSTRIES, INC., REQUEST TO DISCUSS THE
UL TION:
Mayor Liebl asked the City Engineer what the problem was. The City Engineer said
this would concern one of the stipulations in the permit. He said there are two
firms involved in the matter and this would be Designware and the Fridley Bus
Company. -He explained that the firms representatives were not available for the
present meeting and had requested this be discussed at the November 12; 1973 meeting
of the Council.
MOTION by Councilman Breider to table the consideration of the Fire Hydrant Stipulation
of Designware until the November 12, 1973 meeting of the Fridley City Council.
Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl
declared the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF OCTOBER 17, 1973:
A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #73-10, BY^TRYGVE�OLSEN: cPER^FRIDLEY
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The City Engineer said the Planning Commission had recommended the request
be approved.
MOTION by Councilman Nee to concur with the recommendation of the Planning
Commission and approve the request for the construction of an accessory
building with the stipulations of the subcommittee. Seconded by Councilman
Breider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl declared the motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by Councilman Breider to receive the minutes of the Planning Commission
Meeting of October 29, 1973. Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING OF OCTOBER 9, 1973:
A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 45,052,-1, FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO INCREASE
AND
RECEIVING PETITION #15-1973, SUBMITTED BY ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS APPROVING .
THE NSTALLATION OF THE ANTENNA AT 520 OVERTON*DRIVE N. E.:
The City Engineer pointed out the request was to construct a radio tower
which would be 70 feet above the dwelling instead of the limited 20 feet as
provided for in the Code. He said the Board of Appeals had recommended.the
request be denied.
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Mayor Liebl said Mr. Kremer was present and he would like to see what the
proposed antenna would look like. Mr. Kremer came forward and presented
several pictures of the various types of antenna and his proposed type of.
construction to the Council for their review. .
Mayor Liebl asked if there would be any commercial use of the antenna or would
it be limited to citizens ban. Mr. Kremer said he would only use C. B.
Mr. Kremer said he had his radio checked by.two. technicians to determine if
it would cause interference on the area televisions and radios, and presented
the letters which indicated his equipment to be in good working order to the
Council.
MOTION by Councilman Breider to receive the letters from Mr. Tom Lenz, Electronics
Specialists, Inc., dated October.26, 1973, and also from Mr. Norman Aaberg with
no date. Seconded by Councilman Nee. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Kremer presented a •petition to the Council stating it was from the area
people who were not opposed to the installation of the antenna.
MOTION by Councilman Nee to receive Petition #15-1973 from the area people
not.opposed to the installation of the antenna by Mr. Kremer. Seconded by
Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Liebl declared
the motion carried unanimously.
Mayor Liebl asked Mr. Kremer if he would abide by the necessary conditions
as not to cause any problems in the neighborhood in the future. Mr. Kremer
said he would do anything possible to comply with the regulations and the
wishes of the people.
Mr. Kremer said he is licensed by the F. C. C. as a class D operator and the
license authorizes him to operate 150 air miles form his home in any direction.
He pointed out to the Council that he would only plan to extend the antenna
50 feet over.the top of the dwelling instead of the 70 feet as indicated in
the, agenda.