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!C HEARING
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PLX'S 1 . COfAM1SSiON
Notice y given that there
will be a lic Hearing . the
Fridley Commission at the
Fridley Municipal Center, 6431 Uni-
vers. Venroe N.E. on Wednesday,
at 7:30 p.m. for the
of a Special Use
Permit, SP =111,3, by Garland
Lagesse, per Section 205.24.4.D Of
the Fridley City Code, to,allow a
structure to be constructed in a
CRP-2 (Flood Fringe) District, on
Lots 9a 1,7„16•$4,Block M,Riverview
Hai gw*raRy located at'7951
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Any and all,persons_desiring to be -
heard shall be*)ven in opportunity at
the above stated time and place.
DON9f?TZOLD
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Any 4uesf)ons related to.tllis''Ifefh A
may be rete?red to tile.44iidtey'tom-
munity.DeVeWgltetN Deparfent,
571.3456.
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Fridley Planning Commission at the Fridley Municipal Center, 6431
University Avenue N.E. on Wednesday, August 8, 1990 at 7:30 p.m.
for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP #90-
13, by Garland Lagesse, per Section 205.24.4 .D
of the Fridley City Code, to allow a structure
to be constructed in a CRP-2 (Flood Fringe)
District, on Lots 9-12, 16-24, Block M,
Riverview Heights, generally located at 7951
Broad Avenue N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an
opportunity at the above stated time and place.
DONALD BETZOLD
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: July 25, 1990
August 1, 1990
Any questions related to this item may be referred to the Fridley
Community Development Department, 571-3450.
SP #90-13 MAILING LIST Planning 7/20/90
Garland Lagesse
Council
Garland Lagesse Kevin Holman
Vance Nelson
7951 Broad Avenue N.E.
571 - 79th Way N.E. 600 Buffalo Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Roger Geis Bergsagel and Rogness City Council Members
520 Dover Street N.E. 16515 - 6th Avenue N.
Fridley, MN 55432 Plymouth, MN 55447 Planning Comm. Chair
Irvi i strim Earl Gemmill/Resident
540 Dov Street N.E. 560 Buffalo Street N.E.
Fridl , 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Donald Copeland Walter Rasmussen
7981 Broad Avenue N.E. 541 - 79th Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
James Peterson Robert Rutherford
7995 Broad Avenue N.E. 610 Dover Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Irvin Lindstrom Barbara Bollig
540 Dover Street N.E. 581 Buffalo Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Walter Nelson Anthony Turek
524 Dover Street N.E. 611 Buffalo Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Edwin Haldorson Gerald Kostohryz
514 Dover Street N.E. 609 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
James Bowe/Resident Richard Carlson
7919 Broad Avenue N.E. 615 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
James Bowe Stephen Sundquist
2546 - 3rd Street N.E. 630 Cheryl Street N.E.
Minneapolis, MN 55418 Fridley, MN 55432
Milan Bozony Clark Nason
479 - 79th Way N.E. 614 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Earl Gemmill Gordon Hedlund
468 Longfellow Street N.E. 1255 Pike Lake Drive
Fridley, MN 55432 New Brighton, MN 55112
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FILE NUMBER FILE DATE MEETING DATE FILE DESCRIPTION SP 490-13
CIWOF 37 7/6/90 8/8/90 Garland Lagesse; allow construction of a
FRIDLEY structure in Flood Fringe District at
% 7951 Broad Avenue
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STAFF REPORT
APPEALS DATE
CI 1 i`��/OF PLANNING COMMISSION DATE : August 8, 1990
FM DLEY CITY COUNCIL DATE : August 27, 19 90 AUTHOR MM/do
REQUEST
PERMIT NUMBER SP #90-13
APPLICANT Garland Lagesse
PROPOSED REQUEST To allow construction of a structure in a Flood Fringe
District.
LOCATION 7951 Broad Avenue N.E.
SITE DATA
SIZE 43,550 square feet lot coverage: 3.2%
DENSITY
PRESENT ZONING R-1 , Single Family Dwelling
ADJACENT LAND USES R-1 , Single Family Dwelling on East, West, South and
& ZONING North
UTILITIES
PARK DEDICATION
ANALYSIS
FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS
CONFORMANCE TO Yes
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
COMPATIBILITY WITH Yes
ADJACENT USES & ZONNG
ENVIRONMENTAL
CONSIDERATIONS
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STAFF RECOMMENDATION Approval with stipulations
APPEALS RECOMMENDATION
PLANNING COMMISSION Approval with amended stipulations
RECOMMENDATION
Staff Report 2J
SP #90-13 , Garland Lagesse
Page 2
Request
The petitioner, Garland Lagesse, is requesting that a special use
permit be granted in order to allow the reconstruction of a porch
addition which lies within the Flood Fringe District of the
Mississippi River. The request is for Lots 9-12, 16-24, Block M,
Riverview Heights, the same being 7951 Broad Avenue N.E.
Site
The parcel is 43,550 square feet in area and is somewhat wooded,
with a bluff line ascending directly behind the house. The parcel
is also located on the edge of a creek. There is a two story
house, the lower portion of which is constructed of masonry block,
and a two car garage on the parcel.
Analysis
The purpose of the 0-1, Overlay District regulations is to provide
a means for the City to reduce losses caused by periodic flooding
of creeks and rivers. Section 205. 24.4.D. (1-8) outlines instances
where special use permits may not be granted for construction
within the CRP-2 (Flood Fringe) District and by which this request
is evaluated.
The proposed addition will replace an existing 18 ' x 11' three
season porch located along the south wall of the dwelling unit.
The proposed three season porch will be 12 ' x 251 , which is an
approximate 50% increase in the size of the structure. The
proposed addition is not greatly increasing the structure;
therefore, will not significantly increase the economic loss which
may occur should the property be flooded at some future date. The
existing dwelling unit currently does not conform to the minimum
elevation requirement. The first floor of the dwelling unit is
below the 824 foot elevation that is required by the zoning code
for construction of living areas within the Flood Fringe District.
The new addition will meet the elevation requirement and is
compatible with existing uses on the lot and adjacent parcels.
Section 205. 07. 06.A. (2) of the zoning code requires that all
parking and driveway areas be surfaced with blacktop, concrete or
other hard surface materials. The petitioner has indicated a
reluctance to comply with this requirement, and may ask the
Commission to remove stipulation #3 below.
Recommendation and Stipulations
As the proposed addition is compatible with the existing uses and
surrounding uses, and is not significantly increasing losses in
the Flood Fringe District, staff recommends that the Planning
Commission recommend approval of the special use permit request,
with the following stipulations:
1. The first floor elevation of the addition shall be at 824 feet
above sea level.
Staff Report 2K
SP #90-13, Garland Lagesse
Page 3
2. The addition shall be flood-proofed in accordance with the
building code requirements.
3. The petitioner shall provide a hard surface driveway by
September 30, 1991.
Planning Commission Action
The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of the
special use permit with the following stipulations:
1. The elevation of the porch addition to be at the elevation of
the existing living space contingent upon approval by the
Department of Natural Resources and Federal Emergency
Management Agency.
2 . The property owner shall execute a hold-harmless agreement to
be recorded with the title of the property.
Staff Update
Tom Hovey from the Department of Natural Resources and staff met
with the petitioner at the site on Thursday, August 23, 1990. He
is to forward a letter confirming this interpretation on Friday,
August 24, 1990. We will provide the City Council a copy of the
letter as soon as it is available.
The elevation of the house is approximately 6 inches above the
porch elevation of 821. 94.
City Council Recommendation
Staff will provide the City Council with a recommendation at
Monday's meeting.
SP 490-13
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1990
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Betzold called the August 8, 1990, Plannin►g Commission
meeting to order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Don Betzold, Dean Saba, Sue Sherek,
Paul Dahlberg
Members Absent: Dave Kond 'ck, Diane Savage, Connie Modig
Others Present: Bar a Dacy, Planning Coordinator
J:k Robertson, Community Development Director
.Garland and Jane Lagesse, 7951 Broad Avenue
APPROVAL OF ff6LY 25 990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Saba, to approve the July
Z25, 0, Planning Commission minutes as written.
ON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP
#90-13 . BY GARLAND LAGESSE:
Per Section 205.24.04.D of the Fridley City Code to allow a
structure to be constructed in a CRP-2 (Flood Fringe)
District, on Lots 9-12, 16-24, Block M, Riverview Heights,
generally located at 7951 Broad Avenue N.E.
OTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Saba, to waive the reading
of the public hearing notice and open the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Dacy stated the parcel is located east of and adjacent to Broad
Avenue. The parcel is approximately one acre in size and is
located just at the edge of the flood fringe district as identified
in the Flood Insurance Rate maps. The petitioner, Mr. Lagesse, is
proposing to demolish the existing attached 18 ft. by 11 ft. three-
season porch and reconstruct a 12 ft. by 25 ft. three-season porch.
Ms. Dacy stated the major factor with this application is, because
of its location in the Flood Fringe District, what the Flood
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1990 PAGE _2
Insurance Rate maps call the "finished floor elevation". The
finished floor elevation must be at a level which is considered
flood-proofed in the eyes of the City's ordinance.
Ms. Dacy stated that during the application period, there was some
misunderstanding between staff and the petitioner. Mr. Lagesse was
under the impression that he only had to have an elevation of 823
feet; and, as listed in the staff report, staff is stipulating 824
feet. During the last week, staff has been working with the
petitioner and looking at the flood information to determine the
exact flood elevation that actually occurred in this part of the
flood plain district.
Ms. Dacy stated that in the report staff found in the files dated
November 1971 prepared by the Army Corps of Engineers, it analyzes
the entire flood area of the Mississippi River and then provides
a 100 year flood elevation profile along the entire length of the
river. Staff determined that the flood elevation in the
approximate location of the petitioner's property between Buffalo
and Cheryl Streets occurred at the elevation of 822.5 feet. The
City's ordinance and the DNR require that the finished floor
elevation of a habitable living space be flood-proofed to one foot
above the flood elevation. That makes an elevation of 823.5. Mr.
Lagesse has indicated to staff that he can construct the addition
at the 823.5 foot elevation, but would not be able to do it at the
824 foot elevation. The additional 6 inches affects the floor to
ceiling height which would affect the pitch of the roof such that
it would impinge on the windows on the upper floor of his home.
Ms. Dacy stated that in the staff report, staff recommended the
Planning Commission recommend approval of the special use permit
with the following stipulations:
1. The first floor elevation of the addition shall be 824
feet above sea level.
2. The addition shall be flood-proofed in accordance with
the building code requirements.
3. The petitioner shall provide hard surface driveway by
September 30, 1991.
Ms. Dacy stated that now, instead of the proposed stipulation #1,
staff is recommending that the Planning Commission recommend
approval of the special use permit subject to the first floor
elevation of the addition being at 823.5 feet, subject to the
approval of the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) ; and, if
necessary, the Federal Emergency Management Association (FEMA) .
Ms. Dacy stated that as the Commission is aware, the City takes a
certain risk in approving construction and habitable living area
within flood plain areas. She had contacted a DNR staff person
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1990 PAGE 3
regarding this issue who advised her that in the case of a federal
and state audit, if it can be determined that the City issued a
permit in direct conflict with the codes of the City, the City is
at risk for penalty and, in the case of a flood, lawsuits for
damages. With that in mind, between the Planning Commission
meeting and the City Council meeting on August 27, staff is going
to write a letter to the DNR requesting that the DNR analyze the
above information and make a recommendation as to whether or not
they agree with staff's recommendation at the 823.5 foot elevation.
If so, then the City Council can proceed and approve the special
use permit.
Ms. Dacy stated another issue with this application is that last
week staff informed the petitioner about stipulation #3, requiring
a hard surface driveway. As the Commission is aware, providing a
hard surface driveway is a typical stipulation that the City places
on variance requests, special use permit requests, and other
building permits in order to bring various parts of property up to
City Code. The petitioner is strongly opposed to the hard surface
driveway stipulation.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if staff has the specific elevation of the
existing home.
Ms. Dacy stated that at the request of the petitioner, the
Engineering Department staff shot the elevation of the existing
porch at 821.94 feet. If a flood occurred at 822.5 feet, it is
just barely into the flood plain.
Mr. Garland Lagesse stated he would like to explain to the
Commission why the existing porch is being taken down. He stated
this project started out as a simple project to upgrade the
existing porch. In getting some estimate costs, it was pointed
out to them by a contractor that the existing porch is not on
footings. It is merely on a slab. It was also pointed out that
part of the wall is starting to pull away. Upon further
investigation, it was discovered that the concrete slab has either
broken loose or is cracked.
Mr. Lagesse stated he talked to Darrel Clark, the Building
Inspector, to see if the porch could be jacked up and footings be
put underneath. He was told he was restricted on what he could do
because the property is in the flood plain. He was told it might
be possible to mudjack under the concrete to try and pick it up and
push more concrete under it to level the floor out. If it would
work, it is only a temporary solution.
Mr. Lagesse stated the only alternative he has been told about that
is feasible is to take the existing porch down and start from
scratch. And, because he is in the flood plain, he has to bring
the elevation of the floor up. This project escalated quite
quickly from approximately $2,000 to $15,000.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1990 PAGE 4
Mr. Lagesse stated he can always leave the porch as it is and let
it fall down, but they would like to utilize the space for their
family.
Mr. Lagesse stated that on the roof, he needs at least 4 inches
between the roof and the house windows. If the roof is any higher,
there will be a water problem on the windows. He cannot go with
a gable roof, because of the elevation restriction, so he has to
go with a flat roof. Inside, he has to come out with a landing to
step up into the porch from the house. Because they will lose some
usable living space because of the landing, they decided to extend
the width of the house. He stated he has modified the plan to go
to 823.5 feet, but not to 824 feet. If he went with the 824 foot
elevation, he would have a room standing about 40 inches above the
ground. He would also lose some of the solar benefit and a view
out to Spring Brook Creek.
Mr. Lagesse stated he has talked to a realtor to see if the
construction of a new porch is feasible in terms of economics.
The realtor said it would be kind of stretching it, but they have
to think in terms of what the family wants. The realtor said the
added value to the home was possible $7,000, so the cost of
constructing the porch is double what the added value will be.
Mr. Lagesse stated John Flora, Public Works Director, has been
talking to the Federal Government about the whole flood plain
issue. The essence of it is that for the last 25 years the
citizens of Fridley have been paying for flood insurance apparently
for no reason. The reason behind that is the cause of the 1965
flood was from man-made causes. There was an obstruction at the
St. Anthony bridge; and at the same time, I-694 was being
constructed and the width of the river was down to a 10 foot width.
The combination of the two things caused the flooding. This is
documented in Army Corps of Engineers records.
Ms. Dacy stated, that in spite of what happened in 1965, since then
there have been adjustments at the Coon Rapids Dam and other
adjustments which has caused the City of Fridley to ask the Army
Corps of Engineers and the DNR to take a look at the elevation of
the flood plain since 1983. The Army Corps has done some studies
on the control mechanisms that were installed along the river to
determine if they are going to be accurate. It is her
understanding that the DNR is reluctant initially to look at
pulling back the existing elevations, and it could take months or
years before this is resolved. Underlying Mr. Lagesse's argument
is the fact that he is at the fringe of the district and, in his
mind, there is a real question as to whether or not a flood of this
nature could occur again to the intensity that was recorded.
Unfortunately, until the numbers are changed, the City has to live
with what the FEMA maps say.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AUGUST 8 1990 PAGE 5
Ms. Dacy stated Mr. Lagesse's next door neighbor, Mr. James Bowe,
built a new home at 7919 Broad Avenue (SP #89-02) , and the finished
floor elevation was required at 824 feet.
Mr. Betzold stated he believed the Planning Commission put on a
stipulation requiring Mr. Bowe to sign a hold harmless agreement.
Maybe the Planning Commission could put on a similar stipulation
in this case if they are getting stuck over this 1/2 foot
requirement with the DNR and FEMA.
Ms. Dacy stated that was a stipulation as part of the Planning
Commission and City Council approval, and the document was recorded
and is in the file.
Mr. Lagesse stated he was at the meeting when Mr. Bowe applied for
his special use permit. The stipulation read: "Prior to the
issuance of a building permit, the property owner shall sign a
covenant to be recorded at the County releasing the City from any
liability for the issuance of this special use permit. " If the
Planning Commission wanted to make a similar stipulation at the
823 . 5 foot elevation, he could live with that.
Ms. Dacy stated the agreement Mr. Bowe signed did not specify an
elevation. It was just a statement.
Mr. Dahlberg stated that since the main level of the house is at
about 822.4 feet, the house is already subjected to a lower
elevation and the petitioner is taking a risk just by living in
the flood fringe. He believed it would make sense to go through
the same process in terms of a hold harmless agreement of some sort
but to construct the porch at the same elevation as the house but
no lower.
Ms. Sherek agreed. She stated it does not make sense to build a
porch above the level of the house.
Ms. Dacy stated she also agreed. She just had the concern that if
an audit occurred, she would prefer to have this issue resolved now
and have the DNR sign off on it.
Ms. Sherek stated then they should ask the DNR to sign off on it
with the porch at the level of the existing house.
Ms. Dacy stated she can certainly ask this question of the DNR.
Mr. Lagesse asked staff to be sure and tell the DNR that the
existing porch is now lower than the existing level of the house,
and that the reason it will be torn down and replaced is because
of structural damage.
Ms. Dacy stated she will draft a letter to the DNR and have Mr.
Lagesse review it to make sure the facts are accurate.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1990 PAGE 6
Mr. Robertson stated that the flood-proofing measure required by
the building code is raising a structure to an elevation one foot
above the flood. Now they are looking at a situation where that
may not occur. A question Mr. Lagesse might want to find out:
Would the newly constructed porch addition and the house be
eligible for flood insurance?
Mr. Lagesse stated that if he is allowed to stay at the existing
floor elevation of the house, it broadens his options and it might
make sense to see what the cost is to jack up the existing porch
and put footings underneath it.
Mr. Betzold asked Mr. Lagesse to state his objection to the hard
surface driveway stipulation (#3) .
Mr. Lagesse stated that his reason for objecting to the hard
surface driveway is that when he made the application in July, he
was not told about the requirement of the hard surface driveway.
It wasn't until about one week ago that staff called him and told
him they had forgot to tell him about the hard surface driveway
requirement. Throwing this requirement on top of everything else
presents more of an economic hardship than he is willing to bear.
Mr. Lagesse stated that when he moved into the house, there was no
hard surface driveway. It has been his understanding that the City
cannot legally require anyone to put in a hard surface driveway,
but can only encourage it. He has made improvements to the
driveway. He has put in a concrete surface between the garage and
the house and about 40 feet from the garage. He has put class 2
material on the driveway to hold the driveway together and to make
it harder. He stated that the cost of a hard surface driveway is
over $2, 000, and the hard surface driveway requirement is a
definite economic hardship. The driveway is 150 feet long.
Mr. Betzold stated Mr. Lagesse is correct in saying that the City
cannot legally require the hard surface driveway, but this
stipulation has been pretty routine for anyone making a request to
the City in order to bring the property up to code. He stated any
new construction, of course, must meet code.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to close the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:35 P.M.
Mr. Saba stated he has real concerns about forcing the hard surface
driveway for 150 feet of driveway because of the cost involved.
He would be willing to make an exception in this case.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AUGUST S. 1990 PAGE 7
Mr. Betzold stated he agreed. If the petitioner was remodeling,
he might insist on the hard surface driveway, but in this case,
the petitioner is not remodeling, he is just trying to repair or
replace part of the house that is falling down.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he also agreed. However, if it turns out that
the existing porch can be reconstructed for significantly less than
new construction, he would encourage the petitioner to reconsider
the hard surface driveway.
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Saba, to recommend to City
Council approval of special use permit request, SP #90-13, per
Section 205.24 .04.D of the Fridley City Code to allow a structure
to be constructed in a CRP-2 (Flood Fringe) District, on Lots 9-
12, 16-24, Block M, Riverview Heights, generally located at 7951
Broad Avenue N.E. , with the following stipulations:
1. The elevation of the porch addition to be at the
elevation of the existing living space, contingent upon
approval by the Department of Natural Resources and
Federal Emergency Management Association.
2. The property owner shall execute a hold harmless
agreement to be recorded with the title of the property.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARE THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Dacy stated this item will go to City Council on August 27,
1990.
2. RECEIVE JUNE 4 1990 PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive the June-4,
1990, Parks and Recreation Commission minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARE THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. RECEIVE JULY 17 1990 ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND ENERGY
COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded'by Mr. Saba, to receive the July
17, 1990, Environmental Quality and Energy Commission minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AL OTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARE THE
MOTION CARRIED UN OUSLY.
4. RECEIVE LY 19 1990 HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MIND
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FRIDLEY MUNICIPAL CENTER•6431 UNIVERSITY AVE.N.E. FRIDLEY,MN 55432•(612)571-3450•FAX(612)571-1287
August 10, 1990
Tom Hovey
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
1200 Warner Road
St. Paul, MN 55106
Dear Mr. Hovey:
I am writing to request your analysis of a flood elevation matter
for a reconstruction of a three season porch attached to an
existing single family home. Mr. and Mrs. Lagesse are proposing
to reconstruct their three season porch because of its poor
structural condition. The porch is pulling away from the house and
the existing slab foundation is cracking and deteriorating. The
elevation of the existing porch is 821.94 feet, and the elevation
of the existing house is about 6 inches above the porch. The
Planning Commission recommended that the DNR and FEMA, if
necessary, review this case in order for the reconstructed addition
to be constructed at the elevation of the existing living space,
which is approximately 822.5. The Planning Commission also
recommended that the property owner record a hold-harmless
agreement indemnifying the City for damages as a result of flooding
(see attached) .
Attached is the staff report which was presented to the Planning
Commission on August 8, 1990. The staff report recommended that
the finished floor elevation of the addition be at 824 feet. This
elevation has been required on special use permit applications for
new construction in the immediate area because we have determined
that it appears to be "a safe" elevation which is above the 823
elevation identified on the Federal Emergency Management Agency's
FIRM maps.
However, in reviewing the flood profiles as identified in the
development,_Flood Plain Information Mississippi River and Rice
Creek, Fridley and New Brighton Minnesota, prepared by the
Department of the Army Corp of Engineers in November of 1971, we
have determined that the 100-year flood elevation in this area
appeared to occur between 822.5 and 822. 6 (please see attached
maps) . Given this information, we advised the Planning Commission
that the 823 .5 elevation would be acceptable as the floor elevation
Tom Hovy and John Stein
August 10, 1990
Page 2
of this addition, if it is determined to be acceptable by the DNR.
The Planning Commission, however, determined that it was
unreasonable to require the petitioner to "walk-up" into the porch.
The additional height on the porch would encroach on the window
area of the second story of the house (proposed elevation plans of
house and addition are enclosed) , and also because of additional
expense to construct the porch (current construction estimate is
$15, 000) .
Please advise us in writing of the DNR's interpretation of the
finished elevation of the reconstructed porch. Further, if there
is someone from the Federal Emergency Management Agency office that
must be contacted, please advise us of this contact person and
address.
The Planning Commission also inquired if the DNR would have other
suggestions for construction alternatives. As we discussed in our
phone conversation on August 9, 1990, you will meet me here at the
Fridley Municipal Center at 2:00 p.m. on Thursday, August 23, 1990.
We will then go to the Lagesse property. This matter will be
considered for the City Council meeting on August 27, 1990.
Should ou have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
ce ely, -
B rbara Dacy
Planning Coordin t
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cc: Mr. and Mrs. Garland Lagesse
M-90-652
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DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES L090
METRO REGION WATERS - 1200 WARNER ROAD, ST. PAUL, MN 55106
PHONE NO. 296-7523 FILE NO.
August 24, 1990
Ms. Barb Dacy, Planning Coordinator
City of Fridley
6431 University Ave. NE
Fridley, MN 55432
RE: LEGESSE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, MISSISSIPPI RIVER FLOODPLAIN, CITY
OF FRIDLEY, ANOKA COUNTY
Dear Ms. Dacy:
This letter is a follow=up to our August 23, 1990 meeting with Mr. &
Mrs. Garland Legesse at their have at 7951 Broad Ave. NE. As a
clarification to the points we discussed, I offer the following:
1) Section 205.24.6, item B of your City ordinance .requires that a
special use permit be applied for and obtained prior to the
alteration of any obstruction wholly or partially in the creek
and river preservation district. Therefore, it was appropriate
for Mr. Legesse to apply for a special use permit.
2) Based on available data and past City practices, 822.5 appears
to be a reasonable regional flood elevation. Consequently,
823.5 is an appropriate regulatory flood protection elevation
to use at this site.
3) Fridley's floodplain ordinance, section 205.24.8, item A states
that no use shall be expanded, changed, enlarged, or altered in
a way that will increase the use's non-conformity. Our
interpretation of this is that a new porch with more square
footage than the existing porch should not be allowed below the
regulatory flood protection elevation. A larger porch would
increase the structure's non-conformity as well as increase the
flood damage potential for the structure and would have to be
constructed at or above 323.5. 1-11r. Legesse indicated in a
phone conversation on August 24, 1990 that the new porch would
be the same size as the existing porch, therefore, a special
use permit could be issued.
AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER
Barb Dacy
August 24, 1990
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Mr. Legesse and I also discussed alternatives. They included
elevating an enlarged addition to the regulatory flood protection
elevation, building a same-size porch at the current house level, or
wait until the City of Fridley applies for a letter of map revision
that may lower the regional flood elevation and the regulatory flood
protection elevation.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this matter. Please
call if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Tcm Hovey
Area Hydrologist
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cc: Mr. & Mrs. Garland Legesse
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT 2H
DEPARTMENT
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FEUD LY MEMORANDUM
DATE: August 24, 1990
TO: William Burns, City Manager
FROM: Jock Robertson, Community Development Director
Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator
SUBJECT: Special Use Permit, SP #90-13, by Garland
Lagesse
Attached is the staff report for a special use permit request to
reconstruct and expand an existing porch attached to a single
family home at 7951 Broad Avenue N.E. , by Mr. and Mr. Garland
Lagesse. The Planning Commission on August 8, 1990 recommended
approval of the special use permit request subject to the following
stipulations:
1. The elevation of the porch addition to be at the elevation of
the existing living space contingent upon approval by the
Department of Natural Resources and the Federal Emergency
Management Agency.
2 . The property owner shall execute a hold-harmless agreement to
be recorded with the title of the property.
The DNR representative visited the site on August 23, 1990. We are
awaiting the DNR's written interpretation. We will distribute the
letter at Monday's meeting.
BD/dn
M-90-603
FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF AUGUST 27, 1990 PAGE 5
Councilwoman Jorgenson felt that this issue can be dealt with at
staff level.
Mr. Boswell felt that 35 to 40 minutes a week has to be ent to
review what has transpired, but it certainly does not ve to be
done at the Council meetings.
NEW BUSINESS•
1. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE RECODIFY G THE FRIDLEY CITY
CODE CHAPTER 113 ENTITLED "SOLID WASTE ISPOSAL AND RECYCLING
COLLECTION" BY ADDING SECTION 113. 0, "YARD WASTE TRANSFER
SITE•" AND RENUMBERING THE PRESEN SECTION 113 .05 TO 113.06•
AND THE REMAINING SECTIONS CONSE IVELY• AND FURTHER AMENDING
CHAPTER 11 OF THE FRIDLEY ITY CODE ENTITLED GENERAL
PROVISIONS AND FEES SECTION 1 10:
Ms. Dacy, Planning Coordinator stated that the yard waste site has
been open since the end of rch, and in August, the City reached
the limit for the yard wa a season. She stated that there are
several months remaining 'n the yard waste season, and the City is
near their projected b get amounts for transferring yard waste,
as well as for monito ing the site.
Ms. Dacy stated t t in order to implement a gate fee at the yard
waste site, this rdinance amendment is necessary. She stated that
this proposed dinance would establish a gate fee of $3.00 per
trip, and th per trip volume would be ten bags of bagged yard
waste, or i the case of a loose load, one trailer or pick-up truck
bed. She tated that this proposed ordinance was reviewed by the
Environm tal Quality and Energy Commission and recommended for
approv .
MOT N by Councilman Schneider to waive the reading and approve the
or nance upon first reading. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick.
U on a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion
arried unanimously.
2. RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF
AUGUST 8, 1990•
A. SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #90-13, BY GARLAND LAGESSE, TO ALLOW
THE RECONSTRUCTION AND EXPANSION OF AN ATTACHED PORCH IN A
CRP-2 (FLOOD FRINGE) DISTRICT, ON LOTS 9-12 , 16-24, BLOCK M,
RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 7951 BROAD AVENUE
N.E.
Ms. Dacy, Planning Coordinator, stated that this special use permit
is to allow the reconstruction of a porch addition which lies in
the Flood Fringe District. She stated that the Planning Commission
recommended approval of this special use permit; however, they
wanted the Department of Natural Resources to determine if it would
FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF AUGUST 27, 1990 PAGE 6
be acceptable if the porch was located at the elevation of the
existing living space which is six inches above the park elevation
of 821.94.
Ms. Dacy stated that a site inspection with Mr. Bovey of the
Department of Natural Resources was conducted, and the conclusion
was if the petitioner constructed an 11 by 18 foot porch, he could
raise it six inches to the existing level of the home and would not
have to raise it an additional 1-1/2 feet. She stated, however, if
the petitioner constructs a larger porch, he would have to go to
the 823.5 elevation. She stated that the petitioner has advised
he would construct an 11 by 18 foot porch.
Ms. Dacy stated that if the special use permit is approved, it is
recommended the stipulation for a hold harmless agreement be
included in the approval.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to grant special use permit, SP
#90-13 to reconstruct a porch with the same dimensions of 11 by 18
feet and at the level of the floor of the existing home, with the
following stipulation: (1) the property owner shall execute a hold
harmless agreement to be recorded with the title of the property.
Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
The Council received the minutes of the Planning Commission meeting
of August 8, 1990.
3. RECEIVE AN ITEM FROM THE MINUTES OF THE APPE OMM SSION
MEETING OF AUGUST 7, 1990:
A. VARIANCE REQUEST, VAR #90-19, BY DARELD AN NELSON TO REDUCE
THE SETBACK ON THE STREET SIDE OF A RNER LOT FROM 17.5 FEET
TO 10 FEET, TO ALLOW THE EXPANS O OF AN EXISTING GARAGE ON
THE WEST 67 FEET OF LAT 20, AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION 29 THE
SAME BEING 1365 - 73RD AVENU .E. :
Ms. Dacy, Planning Coordina , stated that this is a variance
request to reduce the setb k on the street side of a corner lot
from 17.5 to 10 feet to a ow the expansion of an existing garage.
She stated that staf s recommendation was for denial of the
variance as an alter tive was identified for a separate detached
garage to the reararf the property. She stated that obviously this
would beZance
ly for the petitioner.
Ms. Dacyat the Appeals Commission recommended approval
of this s they felt the primary purpose of the 17.5 foot
setbackreserve sight lines, for traffic safety and,
becaus none of the surrounding homes would be affected, they felt
the v iance would not be contrary to the ordinance.
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FRIDLEY MUNICIPAL CENTER •6431 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. FRIDLEY,MN 55432 •(612)571-3450•FAX(612).571-1287
CITY COUNCIL
ACTION TAKEN NOTICE
August 29, 1990
Garland Lagesse
7951 Broad Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Dear Mr. Lagesse:
On August 27, 1990, the Fridley City Council officially approved
your request for a special use permit, SP #90-13, to allow a
structure to be constructed in a CRP-2 (Flood Fringe) District, on
Lots 9-12, 16-24, Block M, Riverview Heights, generally located at
7951 Broad Avenue N.E. , with the following stipulation:
1. The property owner shall execute a hold-harmless agreement to
be recorded with the title of the property.
If you have any questions regarding the above action, please call
the Planning Department at 571-3450.
Sincerely,
Barbara Dacy
Planning Coordinator
BD/dn
Please review the noted stipulations, sign the statement below and
return one copy to the City of Fridley Planning Department by
September 11, 1990
Concur with action taken.
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` STATE OF MINNESOTA CITY COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS
COUNTY OF ANOKA
CITY OF FRIDLEY
In the Matter of a suecial use permit, SP #90-13
SPECIAL USE PERMIT
Garland Lagesse Owner
The above entitled matter came before the City Council of the City of Fridley
and was heard on the 27th day of August , 19-10—, on a
petition for a special use permit pursuant to the City of Fridleyts Zoning
Ordinance, for the following described property:
To allow a structure to be constructed in a CRP-2 (Flood Fringe) District,
on Lots 9-12, 16-24, Block M, Riverview Heights, generally located at
7951 Broad Avenue N.E.
IT IS ORDERED that a special use permit be granted as upon the following
conditions or reasons:
1 . The property owner shall execute a hold harmless agreement to be recorded
with the title of the property.
STATE OF MINNESOTA )
COUNTY OF ANOKA ) OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY OF FRIDLEY )
I, Shirley A. Haapala, City Clerk for the City of Fridley with and in for
said City of Fridley, do hereby certify that I have compared the foregoing
copy and Order granting a special use permit with the original record thereof
preserved in my office, and have found the same to be a correct and true
transcript of the whole thereof.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto subscribed my hand .the City of
F iLley, Minnesota, in the County of Anoka on the _,Z/-e day of
, 19qI
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FRIDLEY CITY CLERK
6421 UNIVERSITY AVE NE
FRIDLEY MN 55432
STATE OF MINNESOTA
COUNTY OF ANOKA AGREEMENT
THIS AGREEMENT between the City of Fridley (the "City") and Garland
C. Lagesse, Jr. and Jane M. Lagesse, their successors, !heis and
" r. and Mrs. Lagesse") is dated this yof
1990.
WHEREAS, Mr. and Mrs. Lagesse desire to reconstruct a porch
addition attached to a single family dwelling at 7951 Broad Avenue
N.E. , legally described as Lots 9-12, 16-24, Block M, Riverview
Heights, Anoka County, Minnesota, and
WHEREAS, the above described lots are within the Flood Fringe
District, and
WHEREAS, the City is willing to allow the reconstruction of a porch
addition to a single family dwelling, provided that it is released
from liability for such construction.
NOW, THEREFORE, Mr. and Mrs. Lagesse, their successors, heirs, and
assigns hereby agree to indemnify and hold harmless the City of
Fridley for any and all liability caused by the reconstruction of
a porch addition to a single family dwelling on Lots 9-12, 16-24,
Block M, Riverview Heights, Anoka County, Minnesota.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the said parties have signed this Agreement the
day and year first written above.
CITY OF/� .�FR))ID/L�E�Y
By: (/l. xji44-l"
William J. Ve
Its Mayor
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Its City Manager
STATE OF MINNESOTA )
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COUNTY OF ANOKA )
The for ment was acknowledged before me this
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day of , 1990 by William J. Nee, the Mayor, and
by William W. Burns, the City Manager of the City of Fridley, a
Corporation under the laws of Mi' nesota, o behalf of the
Corporation.
ROBERTA S. CO111N5 Q.
NOTARY PUBLIC—MINNESOTA
RAMSEY COUNTY
My Comm.Expires Oct.21,1993
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IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the said party has signed this Agreement the
day and year first written above.
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COUNTY OF ANOKA )
The regoing instrument was acknowledged before me this iO day
of , 1990 by Garland C. Lagesse, Jr. and Jane M.
Lages e.
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ROBERTA S. COtLINS
NOTARY PUBLIC-+MINNESOTA
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