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-The Minutes of the Appeals Commission Meeting of July 15, 1975
MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Plemel, to open the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried.
Mr. Liabraaten was present and was asked to explain the reason for
his request. He explained that basically he has a walkout basement
and an above ground pool, so that the top of the pool will be on
the existing deck. On the .existing level of the deck, he will have
a 6 foot high fence. The pool walls are 4 feet high and so when
the ground drops down, he would like the same level to the top of
the fence all the way throughout. To maintain this six foot height
above the rim of the pool, the fence must go all the way to the
ground around the side and rear of the pool making it ten feet high
there. Mr. Drigans remarked that this would not only be for more
privacy, but also for more of a protection for -the pool.
The Committee studied the plans and Mr. Plemel asked about which deck
he was referring to and he pointed it out on his plan. He also
expl,,-,fined the lot lines and the existing deck, and also where his 6 foot
hiS : fence was to be located. Mr.'Drigans asked how far the house was
from the existing lot line and he said about 10 feet. Mr. Drigans
asked how far from the lot line he proposed to put the fence, -and
he said probably 6' to a foot. He also asked Mr. Liabraaten if he
had discussed this with his neighbors and he said, yes, and they
had no objections. Mr. Liabraaten was asked what type of fence
he had proposed to put up and what the pool was made -of and he
said it would be a redwood fence and the pool was steel with a vinyl
bottom. The pool drops down so that the shallow end is 4 feet and
the deep end is 7 feet, so it drops down 3 feet on the bottom. He
said the pool was 32 feet.
Chairman Drigand asked if there was an administrative report.
Mr. Mattson replied that he felt this was one of the nicest -arrange-
ments he has seen as far as above ground pools go.
MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Gabel, to close the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried.
MOTION by Gabel, seconded by Plemel, to recommend to the City Council,.
approval of this variance. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays,
the motion carried.
3. A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 205.053, 4B, FRIDLEY CITY CODE,
TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 10 FEET TO 6.6 FEET FOR THE
PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING DWELLING LOCATED
ON LOT 1, LUND'S ADDITION, THE SAME BEING, 12 TALMADGE WAY,-FE�DLEY,
MINNESOTA 55432. (REQUEST BY DALE G. MINE `Y -
MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Plemel, to open the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried.
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The Minutes of the Appeals Commission Meeting of July 15, 1975
Mr. Miner was present to present his. request. Also present with
Mr. Miner was Mr. Don Nielson, 115 - 713� Way N.E., Fridley, who is
helping Mr. Miner with his plans for this proposed addition. He
explained that this addition is to be 12 x 26 onto the south side
of the existing house, which is the back of the house. Mr. Drigans
asked Mr. Miner to point out this addition on the plans that were
presented to the committee, and Mr. Miner showed them where the
existing line was. Mr. Miner stated that when he bought the house,
it had a twister cellar and it comes out at the rear of the house but
does not show on the plans and that it is pretty much at ground level
right now, but that it went way down the same way as the basement.
It is a walk -into and it runs out quite a ways so the addition would
just be an addition onto that on that one end.
Mr. Plemel asked if that was a pre -stressed floor and Mr. Nielsen
replied that it was a cement top and that it is all concrete re-
inforced in case a twister comes. Mr. Kemper asked about his lot line,
which was pointed out to him and Mr. Miner said he had talked to the
people next door and they had no objection to it. Mr. Nielsen explained
that to the south side of this lot, there is a drop-off into the creek,
so there is no property there to interfere with. Mr. Miner also owns
the property on the other side of the creek.
Mrs. Gabel asked what he wanted to do with this proposed addition,
and Mr. Miner explained that it would be an addition to the kitchen,
and a new bathroom. If he wasn't able to go that far out on the
west side, it wouldn't be feasible to build. Mr. Kemper asked where
the existing bathroom was located and.it was pointed out on the plan.
It was explained that they wanted to move'the whole wall out and make
the bedroom, kitchen and bathroom bigger. Mr: Drigans asked what he
proposed to do with the roof, and Mr. Nielsen explained that it would
be a reversed roof gable and would erect a bearing wall, but at the
present time, he wasn't sure where it would be placed. Mr. Kemper
asked where the existing wall was on this structure and was shown.
to him on the plan. Mr. Miner said it was a concrete wall and would
be tied into the existing structure crosswise and would be going down
to the footing. New footings and new concrete.block will be put in. -
Mr. Plemel asked how old this structure was and Mr. Miner replied
he didn't know but thought it was about 25.or 30 years old. He had
a garage built in 1971 and had to have a survey which is now on file
with the City. Mr. Drigans asked who was going to do the construction
work and Mr. Miner replied that he.was going to it with the help of
Mr. Nielsen, according to city specifications. Mr. Drigans mentioned,
that this would be a big undertaking and Mr. Miner said it wouldn't
be because the footing is going to be poured concrete up to ground
level and then with cement block from there on up the existing height
of the foundation.
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Mr. Plemel asked if the existing ground was pretty level or if
was falling away. He was.shown on the plan where the ground is
falling away and where Mr. Miner had been hauling in fill all
the time. Mr. Drigans asked how far away the structure next door
was, and was told that there was a garage there but didn't know
how many feet it was from his line. Mr. Drigans asked about the
location of the garage on the plan and was shown the location and
and also pointed out the cement wall on the west side of the house.
Mr. Drigans asked what was behind this area and Mr. Miner replied
that it was a jungle, full of trees, etc., but there was nothing
there that he would have to remove. He said the. creek runs back
there and when heavy rains come, they go down to about 6 feet
down a tunnel and take everything with it, his driveway included.
Mr. Drigans asked if there was an administrative report. Mr. Mattson
replied that because this is an extension of the existing structure,
the staff saw no problem. The existing driveway was mentioned.
Mr. Miner then explained that he had a tough situation back there,
and has hauled in dirt which is packed solid and the City says
that he needs either a cement or a blacktop driveway. Mr. Plemel
asked if this was coming off Talmadge now, and he replied that
anything he puts in the other one washes away and he had talked to
someone from the County and they are going to try to stop the water
because the frain there does not hold enough so it comes right
across the land, therefore he has been using fill in there. All
of this comes off the East River Road and the county has had a
problem there. He has been trying to get the house built up
so that the water stays on the road. Mr. Miner stated that when
he was in the office, he had talked to Mr. Clark and someone from
the City's Engineering Department about this problem. Mr. Drigans
then replied that the garage was not the'issue because it was already
there, but that the City is trying to upgrade the whole community by
making it a stipulation that the driveway be hardsurfaced, which is
now part of the City Code.
Mr. Drigans asked.if the plans had been reviewed with the Engineering
Department and the answer was, yes.
MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Gabel, to close the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried.
Mr.-Drigans stated that this was an extension to the existing
structure and Mr. Miner is trying to increase the size of his
residence as he does have some need for it, and the neighbors
have no objections.
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MOTION by Kemper, seconded by Gabel, to recommend to the City Council,
approval of this variance. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays,
the motion carried.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned by Chairman. Drigans at 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
CAS RA SAEFKE
Secretary
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OFFICIAL NOTICE
CITY OF FRIDLEY
.PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
BOARD OF APPEALS
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT the Board of Appeals of the City of
Fridley will meet in the Council Chamber of the City Hall at 7:30 P.M.
on Tuesday, July 15, 1975 to consider the following matter;
A request for a variance of section 205.053,
4B, Fridley City Code, to reduce the side
yard setback from 10 feet to 6.6 feet for the
purpose of constructing an addition to an existing
dwelling located on Lot 1 Lund Addition, the'
same being 12 Talmadge Way, Fridley, MN.
(Request by Dale G. Miner).
Anyone who desires to be heard with reference to the above
matter will be heard at this meeting.
WILLIAM A. DRIGANS
CHAIRMAN
BOARD OF APPEALS
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voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
/ / A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 205.053, 4B, FRIDLEY CITY CODE
THE ^SIDE YARD ISETBACK YFROM 10 FEET FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING
p EXISTING DWELLIPiG LOCATED ON LOT I, LUND'S ADDITION, THE SAME REIN
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The Public Works Director explained the request to be for the construction of an
addition to the existing dwelling which would be 6.2 feet from the property
line and will be 12 by 26 feet in size. He said the Appeals Commission had
recommended approval of the request. Mr..Sobiech said Mr. Miner was present at
the meeting to answer any questions.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to concur with the recommendation of the Appeals
Commission and grant the variance as requested by Mr. Dale G. Miner. Seconded
by Councilwoman Kukowski. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF A VACATION REQUEST, SAV #75-05, BY RICHARD KOK, TO REDUCE THE
DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT FROM 6 FEET 'TO 0 FEET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LOT
6, BLOCK 1, CLARK'S ADDITION,THE SAME BEING 6517 MCKINLEY STREET N. E.:
There was no action necessary on the request at the present meeting.
CONSIDERATION OF VACATION REQUEST, SAV #75-07, BY VERLYN VANDER LUGT: TO VACATE
Councilman Starwalt questioned if this request should be held up to incorporate
the possible vacation request by the adjoining property owner. The City Manager
explained that if this vacation was applied for, it would have to come to the
Planning Commission and would take some time. He mentioned there was not need
to hold up this request for that consideration since the property owner was
-facing a time element.for construction.
The Public Wor?s Director explained that the applicant had requested.this vacation
to allow the construction without taking out the trees on the lot.
Mayor Nee asked if there would be a need for a drainage easement. The Public Works
Director explained the conveyance easement on the'tax forfeit properties could
be obtained and access could also be obtained from the park property to the west.
MOTION by Councilman Starwalt to set the public hearing for September 15, 1975
for the matter of the vacation request by Verlyn Vander Lugt. Seconded by
Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the
motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST, SAV #75-08, BY LEO LEMKI: TO VACATE 47TH AVENUE
N. E. BETWEEN 3RD STREET AND UIIIVEf?SITY AU[NUE, AND VACATE THE 12 FOOT Al_LEY
BETWLn 4-6111 AVENUE N. E. , 10 48TH AVENUE P1. E. , ALL LOCATED IN BLOCKS 8 AND
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to set the Public Hearing on Vacation request
SAV #75-08, by Leo Lemki for September 15, 1975. Seconded by Councilman Starwalt.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
The Public Works Director mentioned that this area was talked about by the
Council for possible use for tennis courts and this had not been considered by
the Planning Commission in their discussions concerning the vacation. He asked
if this should be passed back to the Planning Commission for this consideration.
Councilman Fitzpatrick said he did not consider this a great location for
a tennis court, but said the area is void of any other possible locations. The -
Public Works Director said this matter could be discussed at the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Councilwoman Kukowski to receive the minutes of the Planning Commission
meeting of July 23, 1975.
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE CABLE TELEVISION_ MEETING OF JULY 17, 1975:
CONSIDERATION OF REVISION OF, BYLAWS IN ARTICLES VI AND VII OF COMMISSION:
The Public Works Director said according to the franchise, the City Council must
approve any changes in the rules and regulations and bylaws of the Commission,
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Mayor Nee asked if there had been any play back on the suggestions from the Council
from the Charter Commission. The Finance Director said copies of the Council minutes
had been sent to the Charter Corrrrission and there had not been a reply received at the
present time. The City Attorney said the Charter Commission could review the suggestions
and send any changes to the Council in form of an additional ordinance proposal.
The City Attorney noted a possible problem in wording in the section of the proposal
concerning recall. He mentioned that according to the provision, it would take
25% of the registered voters signatures on a petition. He questioned what would
be the case if this would be a Ward Councilman and asked if this should be 25% of the Ward
in this case. He said he could see that there.may be some questions if this came up
in the future. The City Attorney suggested that the Charter Commission and City Council
clarify this section before someone has to go to court to find out the intent of the
provision.
Mayor Nee said he believed this section must be rewritten before it could be used.
UPON A ROLL CALL VOTE, Councilman Fitzpatrick voting aye, Mayor Nee voting aye,
.Councilwoman Kukowski voting aye, Councilman Breider voting aye, and Councilman
Starwalt voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVING THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 15, 1975:
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 15, 1975:
A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF THE FRIDLEY CITY 'CODE, nSECTION r205.0MICT 63TOM,43 'r,TOpREDUCE
The Public Works Director explained the request to construct a carport, porch
and addition to the existing dwelling and said a variance would be required
because the lot is only 50 feet wide. He further explained that the applicant
had attempted. to purchase the adjacent property to allow this construction
without a variance and there were some legal problems and expense involved in this
acquisition. He mentioned the structure to the east of this property is 48 feet away
Mr. Sobiech explained that Mr. Matison was present at the meeting to answer any
questions from the Council. He further mentioned that the Appeals Commission had
recommended approval of the request with the stipulation that a hard surface.
drivo be installed.
Mayor Nee said he was not satisfied with the explanation in the minutes of how
the applicant had tried to purchase the adjoining property. He questioned if he
had really tried to purchase it when the adjoining property owner does not
own it. Mr. Matison explained to purchase from three to ten feet of property,
he would have to track down who owns it and split it off and this would take a lot.
a time and expense in legal fees.
Mayor Nec asked if this property would be a building -site. After considerable
discussion it was determined that the adjacent property would not comprise a
building site. Mr. Matison said the cost to split a 25 foot parcel of property
would be extensive and he guessed that the mortgage company would want him to
purchase the entire 25 foot lot. Mr. Matison said he did not need this much property
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to concur with the recommendation of the Board
of Appeals and grant the variances with the stipulation that a hard surface
\ driveway be installed. Seconded by Councilwoman Kukowski. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, SECTION 205.154, (3), TO
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Mr. Sobiech explained the request to Le to increase the height of a fence to
encompass an above ground swimming pool and incorporate a deck. He said the
Appeals Commission had recommended approval of the request,
MOTION by Councilman Starwalt to concur in*the recommendation of the Appeals
Commission and approve the request for a variance inthe height of the fence at
6128 Woody Lane. Seconded by Councilman Kreider. Upon a voice vote, all
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August 6, 1975
Mr. Dale Miner
12 Talmadge Way
Fridley, Minnesota 55432
Re: City Council-Board of Appeals.
Action Taken Notice
Dear Mr. Miner:
On August 4,1975 the Fridley City'Council officially affirmed
the recommendation of the Board of Appeals that your variance request(s)
be approyed with the stipulations -listed below. Copies of the approved
minutes of the August 4th Council meeting will be available September 9th
Approved variances are valid for one year from -the date of Council approval
and may be renewed prior-to expiration. Variances that have expired must
be re-requested.
If you have any questions, please call the Community Developient
office-at 560-3450, Ext. 41.
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H WARD' G. MATTS
Community Development Office
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