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the property he wishes to purchase when this item is resubmitted to Council.
PUBLIC HEARING ON FINAL PLAT, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION P.S. #78-01, TRI -CO
ADDITION, BY TRI -CO BUILDERS, INC., GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF 72ND AVENUE
AND WEST OF CENTRAL AVENUE N.E.:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to waive the reading of the Public Hearing
notice and open the Public Hearing. Seconded by Councilman Hamernik. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously
and the Public Hearing opened at 8:40 p.m.
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this plat involves a subdivision
in the vicinity of 72nd and Central Avenue. He stated the plat is laid
out for six lots; four of which are proposed for four-plex units and the
balance of the lots to be used for multiple units.
Mr. Sobiech stated discussion at the Planning Commission meeting noted certain
access stipulations to limit access to only one access onto Central Avenue
since it is quite heavily traveled. He stated there would be a common drive-
way for Lots 1 and 2 and the access for Lots 4, 5 and 6 would be from 72nd
Avenue.
Mr. Sobiech stated the possibility was discussed of the petitioner acquiring
the property, shown as the exception on the plat, to perhaps develop a better
plat. The petitioner has indicated the property owner did not wish to sell
the property which means there will have to be an access easement which will
have to be noted on the plat.
Mr. Sobiech stated there are sanitary sewer and water lines to service the
lots, however, staff would recommend that the plans and specifications be
reviewed by the Engineering Department and that certain monies be escrowed
to make inspections on those facilities.'
Mrs. Ruth Norton, 1251 Norton Avenue N.E., questioned the easement to the
y existing house and if they weren't allowed to drive on it.
Mr. Sobiech stated, it is his understanding, that if there is an easement
for that house, the petitioner would trade for access to 72nd Avenue.
Mr. James George, representing Tri -Co Builders, stated, to his knowledge,
he was not aware of any formal easement of record for that property. He
stated they were told they would have to provide an easement for that exist-
ing property and came up with an access to 72nd Avenue and abandon the two
driveways that presently lead onto Central Avenue.
Mr. Sobiech stated the half section map does not indicate an easement for the
existing property.
Mr. George stated it is their intent to provide a driveway of equal quality
which is now existing, until the multiple site is developed, at which time
there will be a surfaced parking lot.
Mayor Nee asked if the petitioner would give the owner of the "exception"
a legal easement. Mr. George stated this is their intention.
Mayor Nee stated, on the map, there is no easement shown to serve Lots 1
and 2.
Mr. Sobiech stated, with the issuance of the building permit, signed doc-
uments would be obtained exchanging the easements.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated there would have to be something shown
in the abstract where the owner of Lot 1 would have,a reciprocal right to
use the driveway that is on Lot 2 and vice -versa.
Mayor Nee stated, if the plat was approved as it stands, each lot has a right
to an access.
Mr. Herrick stated the Planning Commission did recommend the plat be approved
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on the condition that there be only one access. He felt this requirement
of a combined driveway for Lots I and 2 could be put in the final plat.
Mrs. Norton asked if this plat would adjoin the property at 7112 Old Central,
and Mr. Sobiech stated the plat would surround that property. He stated he
was surprised the petitioner hadn't contacted Mrs. Norton, the fee owner,
regarding access, since there seems to be some confusion on the access to
the existing property.
Mrs. Norton stated Mrs. Berglund, who lives in the house, was contacted,
but she never was contacted. Mrs. Norton then reviewed the plat and it was
pointed out where the proposed access would be for the existing house.
Mr. Sobiech felt, perhaps since the property owner hadn't been contacted,
this should be discussed further between them and the public hearing con-
tinued.
Mr. Herrick stated it would first have to be determined if there is a formal
easement for entrance onto Central. If there is no easement, the owner of
the property should be happy to accept whatever easement the petitioner is
willing to give. He stated, however, he didn't know what the facts were
and the questions couldn't be answered this evening.
Councilman Schneider stated he would feel more comfortable with a sketch on
generally what the layout would look like.
Mr. Determan, who owns Determan Welding on 72nd Avenue, stated his business
is located across the street from this proposed plat. He stated he would
like to see a means of the City keeping the apartment house tenants from
parking on the street. He stated he would like to see a fence on the south
side of.72nd Avenue to solve the problem.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to continue the public hearing until such
items as the question of the easement are cleared up and to be brought
back to Council at the staff's discretion. Seconded by Councilman Barnette.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ZOA #78-02, BY MARQUETTE STATE
BANK, REZONE FROM M-2 TO C-2; 225 OSBORNE ROAD N.E.:
MOTION by Councilman Barnette to waive the reading of the Public Hearing,
notice and open the Public Hearing. Seconded by Councilman Hamernik. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously
and the Public Hearing opened at 9:10 p.m.
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this is a request from Marquette
State Bank to rezone property in the Northwest quadrant of Main Street and
Osborne Road from M-2 to C-2 to allow construction of a bank. He stated the most
Southwesterly lot of the proposed plat is proposed to be rezoned to permit a
bank at this location.
Mr. Sobiech stated the Planning Commission did hear the item and recommended
approval of the rezoning request.
Mr. Sobiech stated the bank proposed for this location would provide all
services of a full-service bank, except for closing on loans. He felt one of
the stipulations required with the rezoning would be a plan regarding the
landscaping, grading and drainage.
Mr. Laing, representing Marquette State Bank, presented a proposed plan of
the bank. He stated the primary egress would be behind the bank onto Main
Street. He stated they envision most of the traffic coming in from Osborne
Road and using the drive-in facilities.
Mr. Laing stated they attempted to find a location that is accessible and
not have some of the problems they now have at their main bank on Central
and 53rd Avenue.
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He pointed out they have been in contact with St. Paul Water Works regarding
the easement and they are aware what they can and cannot do as far as
blacktopping. He stated they would be meeting with them the end of the month
on the site plan.
Mr. Laing stated a significant amount of fill is needed to bring the site up
to grade and have the building at an elevation they want.
Mr. Sobiech stated one of the requirements of the Zoning Code is that there
be screening between the parking lot and adjacent right-of-way.
Mr. Laing stated he didn't envision that would be any problem.
Mr. Laing submitted a proposed drainage plan for the site.
Mr. Sobiech stated they are proposing the drainage be directed to the North and
ponding provided on the site to the North.
Mr. Laing stated this would not be their land, but'it was suggested they work
out the drainage plan in conjunction with Mr. Schroer's parcel.
Mr. Schroer felt the drainage problem could be resolved by working with the
City.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated it looked like 60-70% of the area on the
site would be blacktopped.
Mr. Laing felt this was not uncommon and many banks were building on a smaller
site with comparable blacktop areas.
Councilman Hamernik asked, with the 31 parking spaces, if this was the most
blacktop they planned to put into the site.
Mr. Laing stated this was correct because of this being a detached facility, and
they visualize about 75% of.their traffic using the drive-in facility. He
stated the emphasis on on-site parking and lobby use is not necessary in this
case. He stated, if, in the future they were allowed to change to a full
service bank, they would try to expand the size of the building.
A gentleman in the audience commented that he didn't think, because of the
different elevations in the area, ponding could be provided.
Mr. Sobiech explained the drainage would have to be worked out for either
detention or retention of the run-off from this site.
No other persons in the audience spoke regarding this rezoning request.
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to close the Public Hearing. Seconded by
Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee
declared the motion carried unanimously.and the Public Hearing closed at
9:28 P.M.
Mayor Nee stated the Council would get to the question of the plat for Marquette
State Bank, after the public hearing on the rezoning for the Hyde Park area.
PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ZOA #73-04, BY THE CITY OF FRIDLEY
TO ESTABLISH A NEW ZONING GTSTRrrT_ e_ • r_ MPDAi i v I M-A-rrn r-n.,.s ,---i
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to waive the reading of the Public Hearing
notice and open the Public Hearing. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously
and the Public Hearing opened at 9:29 p.m.
Mr. Jerry Boardman, City Planner, explained the processes involved leading
up to this request for rezoning. He stated there were concerns of residents
in the Hyde Park area on the zoning problems. He stated, in order to make
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everyone aware of the zoning problems, public hearings were held to explain
what the zoning meant as far as the houses and businesses in the area were
concerned. He stated a neighborhood council was established of about 16
people who were home, apartment and business owners within the Hyde Park
area and meetings were held in which they discussed the problems and future
planning as to what concepts the people wanted for their neighborhood.
Mr. Boardman stated, from these meetings, came the idea of establishing a
special zoning district for Hyde Park area which would do several things.
It would change the present legal non -conforming status of residences in the
neighborhood to establish a residential character of the neighborhood and
protect the property rights of the neighborhood as much as possible. He
stated, once this material was put together, a public hearing was held by
the Planning Commission to discuss the special zoning district. The Planning
Commission recommended approval of the special zoning district for the Hyde
Park area.
Mr. Boardman explained the reason the special zoning district is proposed
is that there are situations in the neighborhood where the conditions of a
regular R-1 zoning district cannot be met. He stated some of the differences
between this special zoning district and an R-1 zone involve the existing
uses. He stated the residents wished to allow the existing uses to continue
so as not infringe on property rights of owners in the area. He stated,
under this ordinance, the non -conforming uses would be allowed to continue
and could be rebuilt to their present allowable setbacks, if they were damaged
or destroyed. He stated they could not, however, increase the size of the
structure.
Mr. Boardman stated the special zoning district would allow the existing
multiple and commercial uses to remain, but they could not expand nor could
there be any new multiple or commercial units.
Mr. Boardman stated the lot area size would be set at 7,500 square feet.
This would pertain to new as well as old lots. The lots would not be less
than 60 feet, but could be 50 feet, if the lot was platted before 1955. He
stated lot coverage, setbacks, building heights are primarily the same as
the normal R-1 zoning district. He stated the minimum floor area was reduced
from 1,020 feet to 768 square feet. He pointed out these are the primary
changes and differences between the special zoning district and the R-1
zoning district.
Mr. Boardman stated, under site improvements, the City is attempting to try
and improve the exterior development of the area.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated he reviewed the ordinance and made several
suggestions for changes and assumes they have been incorporated into the
ordinance.
Mayor Nee raised the question of including the three residential dwellings on
the South side of 57-1/2 in this special zoning district.
Mr. Boardman stated this was discussed by the Planning Commission at the
public hearing. However, the staff recommended these lots not be included
as it was felt those properties should be developed as commercial and
shouldn't continue as residential uses.
Councilman Fitzpatrick questioned if the lots would develop commercially,
as they are presently being used for residential, and because of their size,
he didn't really see it as a potential commercial development. He felt
spot zoning didn't apply in this case because it is contiguous to the area
in question.
Mr. E. Gurbord, 5847 2-1/2 Street N. E., stated he has lived in this area
for 30 years and has a 40 foot lot and the only way he can sell it is to
have it zoned commercial.
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He stated someone could come in and buy several lots to develop as commercial
property. He indicated he was opposed to the rezoning and wished his land to
remain commercial.
Mr. Boardman stated the problems Mr. Gurbord may have is that his residence
is presently a non -conforming use and, if something happened to his home, he
could not rebuild. He felt the only way he could sell the property commercial
is to have several adjacent lots sold also.
Ms. Theresa Abitz, 216 57th Place, indicated she didn't want her property to
remain as commercial, as she didn't have any way of selling it unless it was
rezoned to residential. She stated, even with the adjoining property, there
isn't enough for commercial development. She spoke in favor of the rezoning.
Ms. Helen Szyplinski, 233 57th Place, indicated she was definitely in favor
of rezoning back to residential.
Mr. Martin Dykhoff, 5810 3rd Street, indicated he was in favor of rezoning
back to residential.
Ms. June Perleberg, 5948 2-1/2 Street, indicated she was in favor of the
rezoning back to residential.
Mr. William C. Zawislak, 2630 Grand St. N.E., stated he was against the re-
zoning. He stated he sold his lots as commercial property on a contract for
deed and now they are going backwards with the rezoning to residential. The
lots which Mr. Zawislak were referring to were Lots 21, 22, and 23, Block 21,
between 5807 and 5832 3rd Street.
Mr. Bob Waralin, 6024 2-1/2 Street, indicated he was in favor of the rezoning.
He stated he has lived at this address since 1958 and has seen the area sit
in limbo. He stated about 751 of the residences are single family homes and
felt, if the rezoning was approved, people would improve the area. He stated
the majority of the residents were in favor of the rezoning and feels it would
be a mistake not to go ahead with it.
Mr. Otto Tauer, 5866 2nd Street, stated he became involved on the volunteer
committee and anyone who owns property in this area would probably be better
off to have this rezoned residential. He stated he believes the Hyde Park
district is destined to be a residential area and spoke in favor of the rezoning.
Mayor Nee questioned the amount of residential uses in the Hyde Park area.
Mr. Boardman stated about 85 to 87% is residential, which includes the multiple
uses, and it.may be even higher than that figure. He stated most of the vacant
lots are not large enough to develop as commercial, unless more than one lot
was acquired.
Mayor Nee stated it would affect the market value of the property and if the
market value goes up, chances are the taxes will also go up.
Ms. Darlene Smith, 8302 4th Avenue, Lino Lakes and owner
of property at 5981
Main Street, stated she received notice that
through some
government program
certain people would be eligble for financing
to improve
their homes. She felt,
if the taxes were lowered, people would use that
money to
improve their property.
Mayor Nee explained the State law binds the
City on not
being able to have
unequal taxation.
Ms. Smith asked if the taxes would be lowered
to residential.
if area was
rezoned from commercial
Mr. Boardman stated he understands the taxes
remained the
same when the area
was rezoned to commercial, but is not certain
how the taxes
would be affected,
if it is rezoned back to residential.
Mayor Nee stated it would affect the market value of the property and if the
market value goes up, chances are the taxes will also go up.
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Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated if the quality of the area increased, this
would tend to have the effect that her property would become more marketable
and if that is true, taxes would go up.
Mrs. Pearl Bradley, 5861 W. Moore Lake Drive and owner of properties at 5900-
5908-5916 2-1/2 Street, stated she was in favor of the rezoning.
Mr. Ted Marr, 6055 2-1/2 Street, stated he was definitely in favor of the re-
zoning.
Mr. Bob Ecker, 5940 3rd Street, stated he was in favor of the rezoning.
Ms. Pat Gabel, 5947 2-1/2 Street, stated a lot of compromise was put into this
rezoning. She stated there are nearly 200 structures in the Hyde Park area
being used for residential purposes and three commercial structures. She stated,
with the present commercial zoning, people cannot add on to their home because
their homes are non -conforming uses. She felt this should be taken into consider-
ation regarding the rezoning. Ms. Gabel stated she was in favor of the rezoning.
In a show of hands on how many persons were in favor of the rezoning, about
20 persons indicated they favored rezoning to residential. On the other hand,
two persons indicated they were opposed to the rezoning.
Mayor Nee advised the residents that action on this rezoning would be taken
at the next Council meeting on Monday, May 15, 1978.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to close the Public Hearing. Seconded by
Councilman Barnette, Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously and the Public Hearing closed at 10:20 p.m.
RECESS:
A recess was called by Mayor Nee at 10:20 p.m.
RECONVENED:
The Public Hearing Meeting was reconvened at 10:38 p.m. All Council members
were present.
PUBLIC HEARING ON FINAL PLAT, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISI
EAST RANCH
MOTION by Councilman Hamernik to waive the reading of the Public Hearing
notice and open the Public Hearing. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously
and the Public Hearing opened at 10:38 p.m.
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this plat involves a replat of
the Northwest quadrant of Osborne Road and Main Street. The proposed plat
calls for three lots. He stated Lot 2, being the most southwesterly lot,
was under discussion for rezoning. Currently, Lot 1 is occupied by Frank's
Nursery and one of the stipulations of the Planning Commission was that
Lot 1 be recorded as part of the platting for Frank's Nursery.
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, questioned the zoning on Lot 1.
Mr. Sobiech stated it was zoned M-2, however, a special use permit has been
issued for the outside storage. He felt it should all be zoned commercial
and made into one parcel and the Planning Commission wanted to insure that
it is properly described as one parcel.
Mr. Sobiech stated the Council has a plat before them which indicates a
substandard lot and staff recommends it be approved and attached to the
other property to insure there aren't any substandard lots.
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