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ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA 55113
May 25, 1979
City of Fridley
6431 University Ave. N. E.
Fridley, Minnesota 55432
Attns Board of Appeals and City Council
Res Variance
We as fee owners of the property at 5614 -4th St. N. E.,
Fridley, ' Minnesota, legally described as Lot S, Block 4,
Hamiltons Addition to Mechanicsville, request variance
to install a curb cut and an on-site parking area.
There is a sale pending on the property, and there is an
FHA requirement that an on-site parking area be installed.
It is obvious that nearly all home owners in this area
require automobile transportation.
It is our understanding that curb side parking is prohib-
ited during winter months.
The vacation of the alley in the back without notice to us
and the installation of the high curb make it very difficult
for anyone to live in the home; and have decreased its poten-
tial value substantially.
MIDLAND-VIDEEN, INC.
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JTaul L. Videen, President
Phoness 633-5104
633-0154
CITY OF FRIDLEY
6431 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432
TELEPHONE ( 612)571-3450
June 1, 1979
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
e is hereby given that the Appeals Commission of the City of Fridley
conduct a public hearing in the City Council Chambers at 6431 University
Avenue Northeast at 7:30 P.M. on Tuesday, June 12, 1979, in regard to the
following:
Request for a variance pursuant to Chapter 205
of the Fridley City Code, to allow off-street
parking in the front yard of a single family
dwelling in R-3 zoning(multiple family dwelling)
the same being 5614 4th Street N.E.
Notice is hereby give that all persons having an interest therein will be
given an opportunity to be heard at the above time and place.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
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M/M Robert Jaeger, 5601 - 4th St. N.E.
Central Dental Laboratory, 5613 - 4th St. N.E.
Cheryl A. Johnson, 5615 - 4th St. N.E.
M/M Richard Kruse, 5643 - 4th St. N.E.
M/M Ralph Fuechtmann,5617 - 4th St. N.E.
Edward Hanscom, 5641 - 4th St. N.E.
M/M Thomas R. Marchiafara, 5645 - 4th St. N.E.
M/M. Ralph White, 5644 - 4th St. N.E.
M/M Wallace G. Schmedeke, 5616 - 4th St. N.E.
M/M Gregory Videen, 5614 - 4th St. N.E.
Jennie Stone, 5610 - 4th St. N.E.
M/M Andy Veres, 5608 - 4th St. N.E.
Edward Settevig, 1907 Dupont Ave. So., Mpls. 55405
Item #3, June 12, 1979
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
5614 - 4th Street N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.073, E1, requires that no off-street parking shall
be located in the required front yard.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to reduce visual
pollution in the front yard.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
The property has no on-site parking at this time. The property
has been sold and FHA requires that an on-site parking area be
provided.
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The structure on this 40 -foot lot has a front yard setback of
approximately 30 feet and the alley in this block was vacated
prohibiting off-street parking from the alley. The only feasible
way to get the parking off the street and on to the property
would be to allow parking in the front yard.
Item #3, June 12, 1979 J
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ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT -
5614 - 4th Street N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT: .
Section 205.073, E1, requires that no off-street parking shall
be located in the required front yard.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to reduce visual
pollution in the front yard.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
The property has no on-site parking at this time. The property
has been sold and FHA requires that an on-site parking area be
provided.
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW: '
The structure on this 40 -foot lot has a front yard setback of
approximately 30 feet and the alley in this block was vacated
prohibiting off-street parking from the alley. The only feasible
way to get the.parking off the street and on to the property
would be to allow parking in the front yard.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS C%MSSION MEETING ® JUNE 12g 1919
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice Chairwoman Gabel called the June 12, 1979, meeting of the Appeals Commission
to order at 7:40 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Plemel, Mr. Kemper, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Barna
Members Absent:- Ms. Schnabel
Others Present: Mr. Clark, Community Development Administrator
l.' APPROVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 15, 1979:
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to approve the May 15, 1979,. minutes
of the Appeals Commission.
Mr. -Barna stated that on page 8, the first large paragraph, the second sentence
from the end, the word "missing" should be changed to "not seeing".
Ms. Gabel stated that on page 20, the sixth paragraph, the words "3n that area"
should be added to the last sentence in that paragraph. -
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE WNUM
APPROVED AS CORRECTED.
2. REQUEST FOR VARIANCES PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO
G:i0 OPHM01
BUILUIINU A'1' 7'(U1 UA1VM.51'11 AVERUE 1VU!{1`ti15Atvr. k.Keques'G Dy xne Braves
, 5251 Central Avenue NE, Fridley, Mn. 55 21.)
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to open the Public Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT*7:45 P.M.
Mr, Thomas Langseth came forward and stated he was representing the Graves
Company.
Ms. Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report as follows:.
AFPEALS C0144ISSION MEL'T'ING, JUNE 12� 1979 - PAGE 2
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ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.REPORT
5701 University Avenue N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENTS:
205.103, 4A, #1, requires that permitted buildings and uses except ,.
automobile parking and loading spaces, driveways, essential service,
walks, and planting spaces shall not be closer to any public right of
way than 35 feet. A setback of 20 feet is required for off street parking.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to maintain adequate setbacks'
for aesthetic open areas around commercial structures.
205.104, 1E, #1, prohibits off-street parking in any -portion of the
required 20 foot front yard.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to limit visual encroachment
into neighboring sight lines and to allow for aesthetically pleasing open
areas adjacent to public right of ways.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
Building site is bordered on -three sides by streets. -
C. AD14INISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The site is bounded on three sides by public right of ways which does
render the site very difficult to build on with a commercial building
and still provide sufficient parking without some Code variances. The
staff has no stipulations it would recommend if the Board recommended
the approval of the variances requested.
Mr. Langseth gave the Commissioners a copy of the plans.
Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Clark why there were two different drawings?
Mr. Clark stated that the petitioner, Mr. Langseth, had talked to the Planning
Department that morning. A change•was made in.the size -of the building. The
drawing in the agenda indicated a building size of 90 x 40. The drawing.they
brought in this morning showed a size of 1.10 x 45 and was later reduced to 108 x
43. They building they should consider here would be 108 x 43. The only variance
affected would be the one on the south and it would reduce that one from 17 to 15.
So, instead of reducing the parking setback from 20 to 17 feet as stated in the
notice, it would reduce it from 20 to 15 feet.
Ms. Gabel stated that she thought that would require another notice.
APPEALS COI44ISSION r ' I TING, JUNE 61 1979 _ _ __ PAGE 3
Mr. Clark stated that he understood that Mr. Boardman had talked to the City
Attorney about this. If they have an existing condition, and right now the
existing condition is zero, and as long as the new condition is more than what
is presently there, they would not need a variance.
Ms. Gabel stated that she would still question this because they had never done
this before. She noted that this would be going to Council and suggested they
ask Mr. Herrick for a legal opinion on this before it goes to Council.
Mr. Langseth stated that the plans were close to what was proposed and also stated
that they do meet the code requirements for the parking and for the drive-throughs.
They increased the size of the building strictly from an economic standpoint. He
,stated that as far as the variances go, the -only one affected was the one Mr,
Clark had referred to. He also stated that they don't have bumper to bumper, in
other words, the two rows of parking would go to. the berm. Right now, the asphalt
does go to.the.property line and they would create a berm that would be landscaped
and would be in line with what's on the other side of the property. Mr. Boardman
mentioned today that at the existing opening there is presently a median and he
suggested -that when the new service road comes in around the future Super America
Gas Station, they move their ingress and egress to that point also. This would
avoid traffic problems.
Ms. Gabel asked if the new size of the building would stay under the 4o% lot
coverage requirement?
Mr. Langseth stated it would. The lot is 19,000 square feet and the building
would be 4,644 square feet. The lot is 175 x 120 square feet.
Mr. Plemel asked if they were going to tear down the existing building?
Mr.-Langseth stated they would tear it down. He stated that everything would come
down and it would be a decorative lot. It presently is designated as office -retail
but they do not have a definite tenant at this time.
Ms. Gabel asked why 57th Place was the front yard when.the narrow side of the lot
is supposed to be the front?
Mr. Clark stated that they couldn't get access off Highway 4.7. He also stated that
on double frontage lots it states they must have 35 feet off both streets.
Mr. Langseth stated that in this case, they were bounded on three sides by streets
and if they had to go 35 feet on all three aides, they would not be able to put a
building there. He stated that what they tried to do off the service road is create
the best possible image.
Mr. Clark stated that it wouldn't make any difference because they still have to
be 35 feet to the building and 20 feet to the parking.
Ms. Gabel asked if they had any tenants?
APPEALS C0I414ISSION VMETING, JUNE 122 1979 - PAGE 4
Mr. Langseth stated they did not have any definite tenants, but were talking
to people. The We_nchell Donut proposal fell through. They were looking at
office -retail and would meet the parking requirements. In other words, they
couldn't have a 140 seat restaurant. They would have more than enough parking
for a 36 seat Mr. Donut and the rest offices. That is their intent at this
time. If they used all the space for office, they wou]d definitely have enough
parking.
Ms. Gabel asked if the rezoning would be C -2S?
Mr. Clark stated it would be C-2.
Mr. Langseth pointed out that only'one lot was involved in the rezoning. The
other three lots were already C-2.
Ms•. Gabel asked if the pink house would be part of this?
Mr. Langseth stated it would not and that the pink house had 32 lots'. He stated
their idea was not to put something there that would be abrasive, but' considering
the lot, they would put something that would be economically feasible.
Mr. Clark asked if they could function without the egress onto 57th Place. He
stated there was a problem with people driving through the existing station even
though it is posted that they shouldn't.
Mr. Langseth stated that they way it would be designed with the berm and the side-
walk, they would not be able to drive straight through, they would have to make
a jog of about 60 feet to get back out onto 57th Avenue. The one problem they
would have is with a tenant on the end, that tenant would prefer facing University
Avenue and would like their door on the west side. It would be an asset to have
an in and out there so there would not be congestion for the Parkers. What might
happen is that the west side parking would become congested as far as in and out
goes. They would have to take what is possible a:hd the best thing for the building
would be to leave that open and deal with the traffic problem by moving, as Mr.
Boardman suggested, the opening to direct line it. There is almost 175 feet on
the east line of the property. He noted there was a curb on the west end of the
south parking that is the length of .a vehicle. If they went around there, it
wouldn't be like it is now. From their standpoint, it would be better to leave
it open, but if it becomes a.problem, that would be different. If it were all.
office space, there probably wouldn't be any reason to leave it opens but if
they have a tenant like Mr. Donut, they would want it open.
Ms. Gabel noted there were only 21 parking spaces and asked how the ratio was
figured?
Mr. Clark stated that the ratio for a restaurant they required 1 stall for every
4 seats and for an office they required 1 stall for each 250 feet of office space.
So, for a 36 seat restaurant, they would need 9 stalls, and for a building of
this size for office, they would need 12 stalls.
Mr. Langseth noted that 200 to 25% of the office space would be used for storage,
etc.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, im 6, 1979 - _ PAGE 5
Mr. Clark reminded Mr. Langseth about the restroom requirements.
Mr. Barna asked Mr. Langseth if they would try to have leases signed on all three
sections before they begin construction? ,
Mr. Langseth stated he was not surev but no matter what., they were proceeding.
He noted they had put about 100 hours work so far into this.
Ms. Gabel noted that they would have to keep in mind that they only had 21
parking stalls and there was no more room available to expand the parking. So
they would have to find tenants that would be compatible with the available
parking. She also stated that she was concerned about the opening.. and asked.:
if they could label one of the openings as an exit only?
Mr. Barna stated that most people would not try to exit on, 57th because of the
traffic.
Ms. Gabel asked if the Engineering Department had looked at this?
Mr. Clark stated that it went through their office., and their comment was that
when the service drive is located going southy the driveway off 57th would line
UP .
Mr. Langseth stated that in regards to backing up and getting in and out., there
is more than adequate space available for mobility in the parking lot. They met
the code and were looked at by Mr. Boardman. He also stated that if they changed
the access off 57th Avenue, it would kill the deal. They must have the opportunity
to get in and out on 57th Avenue..
Mr. Barna asked if Mr. Donut would have a service window on the west side?
Mr. Langseth stated they would not have a service window.
Ms. Gabel asked if they would have a free standing sign or if the building would
be signed?
Mr. Langseth stated that he understood they could have a pylon sign which wcald
handle all three tenants and also the buildings would be signed. -
Mr. Plemel asked if they would use the existing sign?
Mr. Langseth stated they would take that one down and the new one would be in
the green area. He stated they would have to follow the guidelines of the City.
Ms. Gabel asked about the existing lights?
Mr. Langseth stated they would come down also.
Mr. Barna asked about the underground tanks?
Mr. Clark stated they would have to be either removed or filled with sand.
APPEALS COMML9SION M^ETIIVG JUNE 12 1979 - PAGE 6
Ms. Grace Mathisen) 348 - 57th Place NE) came forward and stated she was concerned
about the traffic.
Ms. Gabel explained the plan to Ms. Mathisen.
Ms. Mathisen. asked how much distance there would be between her property and the
building? .
Mr. Clark stated there would be 15 feet from the building to her property line
and 5 feet from the parking to her property line.
Ms. Mathisen asked if a road would boarder her property?
Mr. Langseth stated that no road would boarder her property.
Ms. Mathisen asked if the fence would be on their property line?
W. Clark stated it could be within 6 inches of their property line.
Ms. Mathisen noted there was a slope there and asked if .a retaining wall would
be there.
Mr. Langseth stated it would be properly landscaped and if a retaining wall were
necessary they would do that. He stated that the building would be appealing and
so would the landscaping. They would meet the standards.
Ms. Gabel stated that the grading and landscaping would be inspected by the
City.
Ms. Mathisen asked where the restaurant would be?
Ms. Gabel stated the restaurant would be the tenant farthest from her house.
Ms. Gabel asked Ms. Mathisen if she had any objections?
Ms. Mathisen stated that she did not want her property damaged in any way.
Ms. Gabel stated that the City Inspectors would make sure it would not.be.
Ms. Mathisen asked about the lighting?
Ms. Gabel stated the lighting would have to follow code and would not be shining
directly on her property. She asked Mr. Langseth about the trash container and
if they would have a dumpster outside and where it would be located?
Mr. Langseth stated he was not sure where it would be located.. but they would
follow the guidelines. It would be screened. The original drawing indicated it
would be an enclosed structure with doors. He stated they were aware she was
the neighbor and would do all they could to make it nice.
APPEALS CONdAISSION MEETIN,G.,JUNE 12, 1979 - PAGE 7
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to close the Public Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:30 P.M.
Mr. Plemel stated that the firm had the interest of the neighborhood at heart
and it would be a nice building, better than what is there now.
Mr. Barna stated that he felt it would be an improvement on the site and would
improve the existing traffic situation.
Mr. Kemper stated that his only concern was the variance they were acting on
was not the one on the public notice. He had no objection to acting on it, but
felt Council should be aware that the variance was different and would like
Mr. Herrick to give an opinion on that at the Council meeting.
Ms. Gabel stated she had no problem and felt it would be an improvement. She felt
it would be better if they knew just what kind of tenant there would be, but that
was not possible at this point.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Barna, to recommend to Council approval
of the variances as follows: 1)reduce the building setback from the street right-
of-way from 35 feet to 15 feet, 2).reduce the parking setback from street right-
of-way from 20 feet to 15 feet from the north property line, 3) to reduce the
parking setback from the street right-of-way from 20 feet to 5 feet on the west
property line, and 4) to reduce the parking setback from the street right-of-way
from 20 feet to 15 feet on the south property line, to allow the construction
of an office building at 5701 University Avenue NE. Council should note that
the 4th variance was approved differently than was indicated in the Public Notice.
The Public Notice indicated a reduction of the parking setback from 20 feet to
17 feet. Council and Mr. Herrick should act on that change.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabel stated this would go to Council on July 9th.
3. VARIANCE REQUEST PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO RE
THE FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM THE REQUIRED 35 FEET TO 25 FEET TO ALLOW THE
CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING HOUSE AT 111 45TH AVENUE N.E.
RenveAt by Rruce Nedeangrd. III 49th Avenue NE. Fridley. Mn. 55 21 .
MOTION by.Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Barnal to open the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC -
BEARING OPEN AT 8:40 P.M.
Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Nedegaard to come forward and read the.Administrative Staff
Report as follows:
APPEALS COMMISSION ICLTING, JUNE 12,-1979 PAGE 8
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
111 -45th Avenue N.E.
A:: PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.053, 4A, requires a front yard setback of not less than
35 feet.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to allow for off-street
parking without encroaching onto the public right of way and also for
aesthetic consideration to reduce the "building line of sight"
encroachment into the neighbor's front yard.
B. STATED HARDSIiIP:
"We need additional room for the family as the children get older and
require more space."
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
This house is located on the corner of 45th Avenue and 2nd Street with
the house .facing 45th Avenue. Technically the front yard is on 2nd
Street as it is the slzoiztest side of the iot. The garage is exiting onto '
45th Avenue so there would be no encroachment into the boul&yard area
for parking with this addition. The house to the north of this lot is
facing 2nd Street -and is set back the required 35 feet but there is
approximately 38 -feet between the .addition and this structure to avoid
reducing the "line of sight".
Mr. Nedegaard gave the Commissioners a copy of his plans. He stated that he
faced 45th Avenue and would like a 10 foot variance which would make it 25 feet
off 2nd Street.rather than 35 feet.
Ms. Gabel stated that even though Mr. Nedegaard faces 45th Avenue., 2nd Street
was considered the front yard because it is the narrow part of the lot. She
noted that it was a nice house and well kept.
Mr. Clark stated the house across the street had done the same thing.
Ms. Gabel asked if the hedges were on his property?
Mr. Nedegaard stated that some of the hedges sat on his property., but they belonged
to his neighbor. They would remain there.
Ms. Gabel asked if the big tree would remain?
W. Nedegaard stated it would. He also stated that the garage was in the front
of the house and it would not look like an addition.
W. Plemel asked if he was expanding the living area?
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Mr. Nedegaard stated he was expanding the size of two of the bedrooms and adding
one.
Ms. Gabel asked if he would have a full basement under the addition?
Mr. Nedegaard stated fie would.
Ms. Gabel noted that the picture indicated there was h'line of shurbs and a tree
in the neighbors yard, so they would not be able to see the addition at all.
So, in terms of visual encroachment, there would be none.
Mr. Plemel asked if the other houses to the north were at 35 feet?
Mr. Nedegaard stated that the next two were 35 feet' but from there they were
'staggered.
Ms. Gabel noted that there would be no problem at the corner with -the sight line.
She asked about the roof line and the siding.
Mr. Nedegaard stated that he would be doing the construction himself and the roof
line would tie in with all new roofing and the siding would be the same.
There were no comments from the audience.
Mr. Barna asked if the people in Columbia Heights were notified.
Mr. Clark stated that they sent one notice to the City Hall and it was up to them
to notify the neighbors.
Ms. Gabel asked if Mr. Nedegaard had talked to the neighbors across the street?
Mr. Nedegaard stated he had not.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to close the Public Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:50 P.M.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to approve the request for variance
pursuant to Chapter 205 of the Fridley City Code., to reduce the front yard setback
from the required 35 feet to 25 feet to allow the construction of an addition to
an existing house at 111 45th Avenue N.E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED .THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabel informed the petitioner that he was free to get his Building Permit.
4. VARIANCE REQUEST PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODES TO ALLOW
OFF-STREET PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD OF A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IN R -i
Gregory Videen, 5614 4th Street NE, Fridley, Mn. 55432).
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING. JUNE 12, 1979 - PAGE in
NOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Imo. Kemper., to open the Public Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE,, ALL VOTING AYES VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:51 P.M.
Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Videen to come forward and read the Administrative Staff
Report as follows:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT-
5614
EPORT5614 - 4th Street N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT: .
Section 205.073, E1, requires that no off-street parking shall
be located in the required front yard.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to reduce visual
pollution in the front yard.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
The property.has no on-site parking at this time.- The property
has been sold and FHA requires that an on-site parking area be
provided.
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The structure on this 40 -foot lot has a front yard setback of
approximately 30 feet and the alley in this block was vacated
prohibiting off-street parking from the alley. The only feasible
way to get the parking off the street and on to the property
would be to allow parking in the front yard.
Mr. Videen showed the Commissioners a copy of a picture taken of the area and
pointed out that he had no access to the rear yard. He would like to put a
22 foot by 10 foot driveway along the south property line. What he would like'
to do is get the curb cut. He stated there was only 3'feet on each side of his
house.
Ms. Gabel agreed there was no access to the back yard and noted that the alley
was vacated which eliminated access into the back. Another house had a garage
which could not be used because of the alley being vacated.
Yw. Kemper asked if those people had used that garage?
Mr. Videen stated that as far as he knows there has never been a car in that garage.
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'Mr. Videen stated he had sold the house and the people buying were getting an
FHA Loan. FHA won't approve the loan unless he can provide.off-street parking.
Mr. Barna stated that all they were really doing was legalizing an existing
situation and allowing.him to pave what he is presently using and to request the
curb cut. He stated there was no other way to park on that lot. He asked what
the clearance was from the house to the lot line on the south side of the lot?
Mr. Videen stated it was about 3 feet.
Ms. Gabel asked what the requirement was between the paved area and the lot line?
Mr. Clark stated there was no requirement but usually they recommended 3 feet.
Mr. Videen stated that he would like to keep it as close to the lot line as possible as
it is in the front yard.
Mr. Barna asked if it would be blacktop or concrete?
Mr. Videen stated that all the -driveways in the neighborhood with the exception of
two were dirt or gravel.
Ms. Gabel stated they had a new code that required a hard surface.
Mr. Videen stated that he intended to put gravel on its but if a hard surface was
required., he would have to do that.
Ms. Gabel stated -that they required a hard surface. She asked if Mr. Clark had
any idea how the alley.was vacated?
Mr. Clark stated he was not sure but a vacation is normally requested by the people
living there. Also., notices are sent out.
Mr. Videen stated it was vacated in 1964.
Mr. Paul Videen came forward and stated that he was the petitioner's father. He
stated that his company was the fee -owner of the property and they have not been
receiving notices of public hearings regarding this property. Alsop they did
not receive a notice of the vacation. They did not receive a notice of this
hearing either. They were paying taxes on this property.
Mr. Kemper stated that the notices were sent from the tax rolls. He stated that
the address probably got the notice for the vacation.
Mr. Barna stated that in talking about the property north of 57th Avenue, they
were talking about a service drive east of it and asked where it would come in?
Mr. Clark stated it would be between the buildings., and they still couldn't get
to the back of the property.
APPEALS OMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 12, 1979 _ PAGE
Ms. Gabel stated that she had talked to the owner of the house next door and
he had no problems.
Mr. Plemel asked where he parked?
Mr. Gabel stated he had room on his property to get to the rear.
Mr. Plemel stated that he felt Mr. Videen had a real hardship.
Mr. Kemper stated that he was concerned about the notices.
Mr.'Clark-stated that the contract purchaser should be notified and the occupant
would be notified as long as he was homesteading the property. A renter normally
would not be notified.
Mrs. Lois Videen., the petitioner's mother., stated that the address was notified
of the vacation, but apparently the person who was renting there at that time
did not tell them about it.
Mr. Plemel stated that the taxpayer address and the property address would be
notified.
Mr. Clark looked it up and stated the notices were delivered door to door.
Mr. Videen asked if the driveway could be 10 x 22 rather than 10 x 25 in order
to save the tree. He understood that 10 x 25 was case.
Mr. Clark stated that 10 x 20 was code and there would be no problem with that.
Mr. Barna asked if he didn't have to stay so far away from the building?
Mr. Clark stated that they should try to stay 5 feet away, but he had enough room
here.
Mr. Kemper asked if the 25 feet included the boulevard?
Mr. Videen stated it did not.
Mr. Clark stated it was a 10 foot boulevard.
Mr. Kemper stated that he would then pave the 10 foot boulevard plus another 22 feet.?
Mr. Videen stated that was correct.
Ms. Gabel asked if Rt". Videen would need a bumper stop or something at the end of
the driveway?
Mr. Clark stated that he would be eight or ten feet from the house so he didn't
think that would be necessary.
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Mr. Clark stated that they didn't ask for variances for the front yard setback,
etc..on this 40 foot lot. He stated they did that intentionally because it is
a legal non -conforming use and if asked for the variances, it would be very
difficult to deal with them. The intent of the code is that a legal non -conforming
use like this, if the house is destroyed, the lots comply.
Mr. Plemel asked when this. house was built?
Mr. Paul Videen stated it was built in 1947.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to.close the Public Hearing.
UPON A -VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
$FARING CLOSED AT 9:12 P.M.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to reconmend to Council approval
of the variance request pursuant to Chapter 205 of the Fridley City Code, to
allow off-street parking in the front yard of a single family dwelling in R-3
zoning, (Multiple Dwellings), the same being 561+ 4th Street NE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabel informed the petitioner that this would go to Council on July 9th.
5. VARIANCE REQUEST PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205.0F THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDUCE
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MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to open the Public Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 9:15 P.M.
Ms. Gabel noted that the garage was attached, not detached. She asked the petitioner,
Mr. David L. Phillips, 6565 Pierce Street NE, to come forward and read the
Administrative Staff Report as follows:
ADMMSTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
6565 Pierce Street N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.053, 4B, #4 , requires a side yard setback of 5 feet on an
attached garage
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide space between.
individual structures to reduce conflagration of fire, to provide access
to the rear yard for emergencies, and to limit the condition of crowding
in a residential neighborhood.
APPEALS` COM41SSION METING, JUNE 12, 1979 - PAGE 3-4
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"We wish to change a one stall garage to a two stall garage as one car
has to sit'out and is aged much faster than normal."
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
.The existing attached single car garage is 10 feet from north property
line,and they, wish to add on a 7 foot garage addition that would be
only 3 feet from the line. The neighbor's house. to the north is 29 feet
from the common lot lineP, which would leave more than the 3 n:-faot minimum
requirement between adjoining garage .and living areas.
Mr. Philips stated that they hada survey of the neighbors hou.sp and he gave
the Commissioners a rough sketch of the proposed addition. They took the survey
and measured. 29 feet to his lot line. He stated that before he bought the house
there was a shed there and there were several 4 x 4 posts on the lot. When he
moved there: he tore down the shed and he neighbor.asked if he could put a fence
on the existing posts' so the fence is about 6 inches into his lot line. It is
9 feet.- 4 inches from the exiSti;ng"garage and 10 feet 4 inches to the lot line.
Ms. Gabel asked if the fence would be removed?
We Phillips stated he would leave that to the option of the neighbors: If the
neighbor wanted to move it over to his property line or remove it., that wcu ld be
fine. Mr. Phillips stated that he might have to dig it up and move it over, but
that would be up to the neighbor.
Ms. Gabel asked how big the addition would be?
Mr. Phillips stated that the existing garage door is 9 feet wideanda double
garage door is 16 feet wide, which would be a 7 foot difference. He was planning
on moving the garage out 7 feet. The existing garage wall is 10 feet 4 inches
from the property line and if they move it out 7 feet it would be about 3 feet
4 inches from the property line.
Ms. Gabel asked what the total size of the garage wauld be?
Mr. Phillips stated it would be about 21 x 26. The garage is the entire width
and length of the house.
Mr. Plemel stated that it still wouldn't be overly wide?
Mr. Phillips stated that he has one small car and one regular size car and the
trend is toward small cars. The garage is 26 feet long so there would be ample
space for storage in the rear. He stated that a similar garage was added to the
house two doors away,.
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Ms. Gabel asked W. Phillips if he had talked to the people at 65817
Mr. Phillips stated he had talked to them and they had no problem. Their house
sits quite a ways away.
Ms. Gabel asked if he would do the work himself?
Mr. Phillips stated that he would do part of it and have a contractor help.
Ms. Gabel asked if he would tie the roof line in and also asked what he would
do about the siding?
Mr. Phillips stated that the contractor would help with the roof line and it would
tie in. He planned on repainting the.house and the garage when this is done.
Ms. Gabel stated that his plan would meet the intent of the code. She asked
if they had talked to any other neighbors?
Mrs. Phillips stated she had and they had no problem with it.
There were no comments from the.audience.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr. Barna, to close the Public Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE' VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 9:25 P.M.
W. Plemel stated that he did not see any problem with this.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr. Barna, to approve the request pursuant
to Chapter 205 of the Fridley City Code, to reduce the side yard setback for
an attached garage from the required 5 feet to 3 feet, to allow the construction
of an addition to an existing garage at 6565'Pierce Street NE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL• DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabel informed the petitioner that he was free to get a Building Permit.
6. OTHER BUSINLSS:
Ws. Gabel stated that in the past whenever they have changed a variance to more,
they have always had to renotify and sometimes have tabled a petition until it
was renotified. She stated that a non -conforming use does not go -with the
property and here they were tearing down the building and starting.from scratch.
Mr. Clark stated that. he understood that because it was an existing condition of
zero lot line and they wanted to increase it to 15 feet, a variance wouldn't be
necessary really. The paved portion of the lot is on the lot line. This creates
a zero lot line.
APPEALS CONtCSSION MEETING JUNE 12
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Nf(YPION by Mr. Barna seconded by Mr.
Kemper, to ad jotirn the June 12p 1979, meati ''
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of the Appeals Commission.
UPON A VOICE VOTES ALL VOTING 'AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED T8E>I�'Til� ,;;
ADJOURNED AT 9:30 P.M.
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