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DISCUSSION REGARDING SEWER SERVICE PROBLEM, 5310 4TH STREET NORTHEAST:
Councilman Liebl reported that Mr. Flentie has hired a contractor to complete
the work on his own line.
MOTION by Councilman Liebl to receive the report from the Director of Public
Works dated May 28, 1971. Seconded by; Councilman Breider. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously.
IVING THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF MAY 19, 1971:
1. 5 7R_ QUEST 'FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #71-04, THOMAS ANNETT: Lot 17, Block
2. Bennett Palmer Addition. To construct a second garage. Section
' 45.051, 2A.
The City Engineer said that the Planning Commission recommended approval subject
to Mr. Annett getting a notorized statement from his neighbor stating that he
recognizes the placement of the driveway and that he has no objection. He
questioned the close proximity of the driveway to the house and the property
line.
MOTION by Councilman Liebl to concur with the Planning.Conmission and grant the
special use permit subject to his getting the notorized statement from his
neighbor. Seconded by Councilman Kelshaw. Upon a voice vote, all ayes, Mayor
Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously.
2. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L S #71-07, PDQ STORES OF MINNESOTA, INC. BY CHARLES
WEST: ^Lot 5, Block 1, Maple Manor Addition. To split in half for two
building sites.
The City Engineer reported that this property is just east of the hospital and
is properly zoned. The property is platted and there is already some con-
struction. There are two apartment buildings already built. The lot is about
45,000 square feet and the request is to split the property. He advised that
this lot split as requested would not meet the minimum requirements. They would
be a little over 2,000 square feet short.
Mr. Charles West, of PDQ, said.that on the west side of the property there is
251 belonging to Lot 4 where -the proposal is to put in an apartment building.
That land is owned by the same people. -The apartment would be using this 25
feet as a driveway. The lot, after the split, would not meet the requirements,
but as a practical muter it would, if you include the 251 easement. PDQ plans
to build.'on the easterly h, on about 22,000 square feet.
The City Engineer said that the Planning Commission recommended approval of the
lot split, with the recommendation that the westerly lot hasf..the availability of
25 feet of the adjoining Lot 4 to be used as a driveway, and with the recom-
mendation that the PDQ building be placed on the easterly half of Lot 5.
Mr. West said that they had an agreement drawn up. Councilman Harris asked if
the westerly half was sold, would the easement go with it. Mr. west said yes, it
would be a permanent easement, filed and recorded with the deed. He explained that
this 25 feet is the only access to Lot 4 in back, and they had to keep it with
Lot 4. The City Engineer asked if PDQ is buying the whole lot. Mr. West said
an investor is i The �,dg will have it's own drivet�yR Osborne Road.
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Councilman Liebl asked how it would be paid for. When sidewalks were put in on
61st and on Mississippi, the people were assessed. If state aid funds are used
to pay for the sidewalks in this case; is there a legal problem with the people
that have already been assessed for sidewalks in other areas? The City Attorney
said that there is no legal problem. The Council has the right to assess. Each
decision is made independently of every other, by the Council. The previous
policy was that home owners would pay 1/3 and commercial and industrial would pay
the full cost. Since then'the Council has adopted a sidewalk policy since the
change in the law concerning state aid funds. Councilman Harris added that since
the change was made in state funding it allows those funds to be used on side-
walks.
Councilman Liebl asked how many trees would be taken. The City Engineer said that
about four trees would have to be taken. These trees are within the right of way.
Mr. Robert Metcalf said that he was a resident on the south side of the street.
The discussion so far has concerned sidewalks, but he felt that the street should
also come from general revenue funds. The stain purpose for the road is for school
buses. This is the first connection between University Avenue and Central
Avenue north of I. 694, and it is now being made a faster, wider route. There-
fore, it would be considered a benefit to the City. He felt that their property
values would go down, and they have the disadvantage of faster traffic. Mayor
Kirkham said that this would be contrary to the policy followed by the City for
several years. Everyone is assessed for a normal residential street. If the
improvement goes beyond that of a normal residential street, the difference is
made up out of state aid funds.
The City Engineer explained that by putting the sidewalks.adjacent to the curbing
will require more shaping and revamping of the driveways. They would have to be
depressed in some areas for drainage.
Mr. Earl Hoyne, 820 West Moore lake Drive, felt that it would be better to reduce
the sidewalk to 4' rather than 5'. He felt the need for 5' sidewalks was
doubtful. He pointed out that they were 4' on Mississippi. Councilman Harris
said that the 4' sidewalks on Mississippi Street were not adequate. He did not want
to see a 1' separation between the sidewalk and the curb. Salt would get on the
grass and the people would have trouble growing anything in the 1' space but weeds.
Bloomington has made their sidewalks 5' adjacent to the curb line. Mr. Hoyne
said that initially he did not feel sidewalks were necessary, but if the school
board and the City feels there is a need,-he.would favor Councilman Kelshaw's
plan. Councilman Liebl asked Mr. Hoyne if he would keep his sidewalks clean,
because he did not think the City would. Mr. Hoyne said he would, but he
doubted if everyone would. Councilman Liebl said that it .would be an added
burden and they would be plowed after everything else is plowed. He said that
at this time he did not -believe it is mandatory to have sidewalks in residential
areas. They are only -needed in heavy traffic areas,=such as Osborne Road and
Mississippi Street.
THE VOTE upon the motion, being a voice vote, Kirkham, Harris, and Kelshaw voting
aye, Breider abstaining and-Liebl voting nay, Mayor Kirkham -declared the motion
carried.
RECESS:
Mayan Kirkham declared a ceois at .10si3O VA, -peetir�9 w" r*9o4,y9ppd at 10:30 P.r