HRAM 06/01/2017
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING
JUNE 1, 2017
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Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
called the Housing and Redevelopment Authority Meeting to
order at 7:02 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
William Holm
Pat Gabel
Gordon Backlund
Kyle Mulrooney
MEMBER ABSENT:
Stephen Eggert
OTHERS PRESENT:
Paul Bolin, HRA Assistant Executive Director
Shelly Peterson, Finance Director/Treasurer
Jim Casserly, Development Consultant
Shane LaFave, Sherman Associates
Paul Hyde, Hyde Development
Action Items
1. Approval of Expenditures.
MOTION
by Commissioner Holm approving the expenditures. Seconded by Commissioner
Mulrooney.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON PRO TEM GABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. Approval of the May 4, 2017, Meeting Minutes.
MOTION
by Commission Holm approving the minutes. Seconded by Commissioner Backlund.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON PRO TEM GABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. Annual Election of Officers
Commissioner Holm nominated Pat Gabel as Chairperson. Commissioner Backlund nominated
Stephen Eggert as Vice Chairperson.
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UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON PRO TEM GABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. Approval of Development Agreement for NS Rail Housing Development.
Paul Bolin
, HRA Assistant Executive Director, stated Sherman Associates is proposing to
construct a 71-unit mixed income building. The building will be a mix of 1, 2, and 3-bedroom
units; 56 of the units will be rent restricted; and 15 of the units will be market rate. Sherman
Associates is looking to obtain 9 percent housing tax credits in order to assist the project. In
order to obtain those tax credits, the State Housing Finance Agency requires developers to have
more than just a letter of support. They require at minimum a development agreement that
shows that if the credits are granted, the development group will be able to take possession of the
property. That is why the Commission has a fairly lengthy Development Agreement in their
packet.
Mr. Bolin
stated that, in a nutshell what the Agreement says and does is that if Sherman is able
to obtain the tax credit, then the Authority is willing to sell the needed land to Sherman for
$400,000. If there are no credits, if they fail in their attempt to get those credits, then the
Agreement is null and void. If credits are provided and the project moves forward, the Authority
will also assist by providing a pay-as-you-go TIF note for $626,000 to help assist with the
project.
Mr. Bolin
stated the Development Agreement also anticipates potential for two future buildings
on this site. Those future buildings would include a market rate senior building that would be
located closer to the railroad tracks, as well as a market rate non-age restricted rental that would
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sit at the intersection of Main Street and 61.
Mr. Bolin
stated as part of this they have had some discussions with Met Council about reducing
the required number of parking stalls down on the site, and they seem to be making progress on
getting those numbers reduced. The illustration before them shows the architecture and types of
materials used on the buildings.
Mr. Bolin
stated adoption of the Development Agreement really does tie in nicely with the
purpose of the Authority, really with their mission that is spelled out in Minn. Stat. Ch. 469
which states, among other things, it is the purpose of the Authority to remedy the shortage of
housing for low and moderate income residents as well as providing housing opportunities for
persons of all income.
Mr. Bolin
stated staff recommends adopting the Resolution approving the Development
Agreement. Further, they would recommend adopting the Resolution supporting the application
that they would like to make to the Met Council for the Livable Communities Demonstration
Account TOD grant funding. Sherman Associates are applying for $500,000 from that program
as well to help offset some of the costs with this redevelopment project.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked how the $400,000 price was established.
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Mr. Bolin
replied that works out to be about $5,600 per unit for the land compared to the
number of units. That is right within the ballpark with what multi-family properties are trading
for. There is quite a range from just under $5,000 to about $12,000 depending on where you are
located.
Commissioner Holm
asked as to the location of Phase I, is at the south end along Main Street?
Mr. Bolin
replied, yes, it is along Main Street and extending towards the railroad tracks.
Commissioner Holm
asked whether it is the “L” shaped building on the south end?
Mr. Bolin
replied it is.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked who knows what the area median income is.
Shane LaFave,
Sherman Associates, replied area median he believed is about $45,000.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked for the purpose of this, what is considered low income and
what is considered high income? She is sure it depends on number of people in a family.
Mr. LaFave
replied, as to the 15 market rate units you do not have any income restrictions. The
low-income units are restricted to the 50 percent level or less. For a single person that would be
about $22,500 per year or less. If you add people to the family it goes up incrementally from
there. The 56 units are at the 50 percent level of affordability. There is a rent restriction that
comes along with that income restriction, so they have to meet both requirements for any
potential renters. They have to income qualify to even be a potential applicant, and once they are
in, their rent is held at a certain level.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked in the first building then, there are not any seniors? She
found later on an indicator of seniors, but nothing in the first building.
Mr. LaFave
replied, the first building would be open to any age. One of the next phased
buildings is strictly for 55 plus. The other two buildings are open to any age group. They are
assuming based on the bedroom mix, 1’s, 2’s, and 3’s in the low income mix, you often get more
families in those types of projects. However, it certainly is not restricting.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
stated she asked whether they have valuation protection in there
so they do not get into a thing such as Medtronic. She referred to Schedule G and Item K. That
is their protection?
Jim Casserly
, Development Consultant, replied they do not have any protection as to a fixed
market valuation; but the amount they are reimbursing the developer will be a result of the tax
increments generated by their project. If the project is valued less, it would suggest their rents
are less, and the tax increment may be less. They only get a percentage of the increment that
comes off of their project not to exceed a present value of $626,000.
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Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
stated she really cannot see any reason why it would be to the
developer’s advantage to come back at the Commission about the valuation. It does not really
make any sense. Sometimes they put these things in the contracts to make sure they will not be
coming back at the Commission for that.
Attorney Casserly
replied, in a housing arrangement like this, the Commission would not have
that kind of requirement.
Mr. LaFave asked
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel whether she was talking about a minimum
assessment agreement.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
replied, yes.
Mr. LaFave
replied, he believes the way they structured this is that the TIF is set at $626,000. If
their valuation ended up being higher, they would get more increment per year but they will
never get more than $626,000. That would just get paid off faster, and the City would be
collecting 100 percent of the tax revenues sooner.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked whether this is contingent upon receiving the thing from
MHFA. They are applying with this thing, but the developer will not hear about that until
November.
Mr. LaFave
replied, yes--October.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked what would they be doing in the meantime, if anything.
Mr. LaFave
replied, not a whole lot unfortunately. As soon as they get the thumbs up, then they
immediately engage their architects to go full speed ahead. They cannot really do a whole lot.
That is such a large part of the financing of the project. They cannot really go anywhere until
they know that is lined up. It is a good sign if MHFA is asking you questions in that period of
time.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked whether they worry about some of the things going on in
Washington right now where that could impact their ability to get some of these funds, or would
these funds be safe for the moment.
Mr. LaFave
replied these funds are safe for the moment. These are tax credits that have already
been allocated to the State of Minnesota which knows the amount they can allocate. It just needs
to go through a competitive scoring process to determine who allocates them. The developer
takes these tax credits that are awarded and sells them to an investor or their syndicator.
Mr. LaFave
stated they have seen pricing come down a little bit because the corporate tax rate
has not officially come down yet but potentially is going to. That leads to less tax liability for
corporations so there is a little bit less demand for these credits. However, they have factored
that into their models. They were at about $.97 or $.96 per credit per dollar of credit, now they
are down to about $.90 or $.91. They factored that into their underwriting. That is part of the
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reason they are asking for the Met Council TOD funds because of that gap that was created with
the drop in pricing. However, the credits themselves are not at risk. Minnesota Housing has
them, they are ready to be allocated, they just have to go through their formal application and
competitive process to see who they are going to pick.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked whether the note would run for the life of the increment.
Attorney Casserly
replied, it would run until the life of the district or until it was paid off.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked whether there was anything in the Agreement regarding the
last pages where they have given them the financial layout that the Commission should be
looking at.
Attorney Casserly
replied this Agreement also has an option in it which is a little bit different.
That is on page 27 of the Agreement, Section 8.4. The reason they had to do that is ideally they
are going to have the total development over a period of years. This would be what they are
looking at tonight is the first phase of that development. They have not worked out the terms,
the timing, the provisions with these phases II and III.
Attorney Casserly
stated the other phases of the development require them reworking their
arrangements with the Met Council because they have leased property to them, and that is where
the other phases are going to be. They also have to work out where a storm water pond is going
to end up, how it is going to flow and who is going to pay for it.
Attorney Casserly
stated they have a number of issues that need to be resolved, and they cannot
resolve them today. If the MHFA does not provide the housing tax credits, then there is no
reason to get in to worry about the balance of the development. That is why this option language
is in there.
Attorney Casserly
stated there is just too much they do not know right now, but their goal is to
develop the entire site. The area that they are building on is not subject to that lease of the Met
Council. They own that land. They can work with their land and do what they are doing tonight.
Clearly they want to see the entire site developed.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked what would happen to Attorney Casserly’s assumption if
the first building is built, the market takes a nose drive, and they cannot proceed.
Attorney Casserly
replied the increment that is being generated is being based only on the
building that is being constructed.
Commissioner Holm
stated he sees they have the Minnesota Housing Finance Agency issue
which is the big one. He also sees there is a resolution before them concerning authorization for
the funding from the Met Council’s Livable Communities. Are these in conflict or in concert
with each other or how does that work?
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Mr. LaFave
replied, yes, they are in concert with each other. All the same promises and things
that kind of score points that go over well with MHFA and also with the Met Council. The main
thing with the Met Council is the location of the set, and being next to the commuter rail line
station right there checks a huge box for them. Everything beyond that matters but, if they were
three miles away from that station, this would be a different conversation; and there would not be
an application to Met Council. That is the main thing. They are complementary of each other.
The funding agencies do talk, but a lot of their goals and objectives are the same thing.
Commissioner Holm
asked so the Met Council will not approve this before the Minnesota
Housing Finance Agency.
Mr. LaFave
replied they would, actually. He believes they announce in August whereas MHFA
announces in October. The Met Council will tell them they have to start the development by “X”
date, otherwise these funds come back to us.
Commissioner Holm
asked whether the restriction in the Agreement states if MHFA does not
approve this funding, this project goes away. She asked if that was true for the grant from the
Met Council.
Mr. LaFave
replied correct. The Met Council represents $500,000. The MHFA financing
represents over $9 million. Hopefully they could find a way to make it work even without the
Met Council dollars if they got the MHFA award.
Commissioner Holm
asked, as to the MHFA grants funds based on tax credits, that funding is
so much per year for a period of years.
Mr. LaFave
replied, what happens is they allocate tax credits that are paid out over ten years. It
is an annual credit that you get over ten years. They award the credits. They then take the
credits, form a partnership, and bring in a limited partner investor. It is usually a larger bank like
a U.S. Bank or RBC. In this case it would mostly likely be an RBC. Then RBC comes in and
they are the 99.99 percent partner of the partnership, so they get those credits and in exchange
they put money into the project. About 15 percent of that money comes in right when you close
on the financing and the acquisition of the land, and then the bulk of that money comes in when
you complete construction. They get an equal amount of credits every year for the next ten
years.
Commissioner Backlund
asked so the contract is with the Met Council for the credits?
Sherman Associates signed an agreement to receive these credits with somebody.
Mr. LaFave
replied, yes, they would sign an agreement with the Minnesota Housing NBA.
Land use restrictions agreements require 30 years of affordability.
Commissioner Backlund
stated the agreement is then with Minnesota Housing, and they can
vary their credits based on what they receive from the feds.
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Mr. LaFave
replied, the award they would give is a set amount. They award you for ten years.
The commitment is for ten years.
Commissioner Backlund
asked, and those can vary slightly?
Mr. LaFave
replied, the amount of the allocation to the State as a whole can vary from year to
year; but the awards they give out every single year are for a ten-year commitment.
Commissioner Backlund
stated the big picture then can somewhat fluctuate but the little
pictures, namely this, is fixed for ten years.
Mr. LaFave
replied, right. Once you get an award your credit amount is locked for ten years.
That will not change. However, MHFA as a whole might get $10 million of credits allocated
and then next year it might be $11 million or $9 million.
Commissioner Backlund
asked what part does the Met Council play in this process directly as
far as money is concerned.
Mr. LaFave
replied, Met Council would be in their sources of funding stack. They have a
conventional loan, they have the tax credit equity that is generated from the tax credits of
MHFA, and then they have funds from Met Council. That would come in as a grant to the
project. Separate from MHFA or other types of financing. It would come in as a grant directly
from Met Council.
Commissioner Backlund
asked whether that was based on a single-year carryover or is it one
time that is already allocated in the Met Council to their taxation.
Mr. LaFave
replied it is a grant so it is just one time.
Commissioner Backlund
stated Mr. LaFave said the $45,000 is the median income which
would say that 50 percent is $22,500 approximately which is a person working full time at $11
an hour. That is the level of person who would qualify for this, he asked Mr. LaFave if that is
what he understands?
Mr. LaFave
replied that is what he understands.
Commissioner Backlund
stated there is a high percentage of people in Fridley who are retired.
Specifically around this area he asked Mr. LaFave if they looked at that statistic to see how it
affects the $45,000 median income?
Mr. LaFave
replied he has not.
Commissioner Backlund
stated to Mr. LaFave he said there is a shortage of affordable housing.
He asked if that shortage is in the Fridley area, the northern metro, or metro regional wide.
Mr. LaFave
replied, metro wide.
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Commissioner Backlund
stated right now Fridley has 33 percent of low income housing based
upon the Met Council’s study of 6 or 7 years ago.
Mr. LaFave
asked, Fridley has 33 percent of the units are low income housing.
Commissioner Backlund
replied, in the bottom sector of the value of housing. Obviously they
do not all qualify for some sort of subsidy or addressing that. There is a lot of affordable housing
in the City of Fridley.
Mr. LaFave
replied from what they have seen, there is a lot of older affordable housing in the
surrounding area. It does not seem there has been a lot of newer affordable housing that has
been built in the area. The other thing is what they really like about the site and are really seeing
around the metro area is this development building up around transit lines. You are seeing
whether it be the North Star line or the southwest corridor they are talking about or any of these
transit lines, you are really seeing a push for housing and a push for development around these
transit stations as a way for people to potentially be without a car or potentially have a better
means to get downtown for entertainment or jobs, etc.
Mr. LaFave
stated what they saw on this site is, here is some vacant land that is being used as
parking but underutilized and really could be capitalized to fill a need and to kind of meet a lot of
goals he believes the City and the State have. Also, they it is very attractive to potential renters
out there these days who are looking to be closer to these amenities like transit or be within
walking distance of parks or trails. This kind of checks all those boxes.
Commissioner Backlund
asked Mr. LaFave when they make a decision to go into an area, do
they make them upon an assignment or risk or estimated risk of success.
Mr. LaFave
replied that is part of it.
Commissioner Backlund
asked how he would rate this from a risk standpoint.
Mr. LaFave
replied low. They see the low income housing is generally pretty low risk. One of
the things about it is there is always going to be a need for it. If the market goes through a
downturn, you are still going to have people who need low income housing; whereas, the higher
luxury stuff people might back off of that in a slower economy.
Mr. LaFave
stated they have been through 2007 and 2008, they have seen that, that is the real
estate cycle, it is going to go up and down. Low income has proved over the past decades to be
pretty constant. The occupancy rates stay high. The rent levels are not doing this because they
are set at a set rate by the State. They view this that being next to transit is a huge plus in today’s
development world. They view this as lower risk. The biggest variable here is getting that
award from MHFA tax credits. If they can obtain that, then this is a rock solid project.
Commissioner Backlund
stated it is obvious that the train is there, it makes one stop downtown
Minneapolis and then the next stop is going the other way to Ramsey approximately. There are a
couple of bus lines and the transit will reroute the buses so they will stop right next to the
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building. So you do have access to the bus lines, you just have to twist a few arms at the Met
Council.
Mr. LaFave
replied, they will happily do that.
Commissioner Mulrooney
asked as to the cash flow assumptions, an analysis on the back of
this model contemplates only completion of Phase I.
Attorney Casserly
replied correct.
Commissioner Holm
stated this Agreement calls for issue of a note for $626,000. He asked
whether there are any other obligations that the City or HRA are responsible for beyond that
dollar amount—site preparation, any utilities, etc.
Attorney Casserly
replied the only issue is going to be sorting out the storm pond. They have
not resolved that issue because they are not sure of how all of this is going to develop yet. They
will have that issue resolved when they know if they get the tax credits because that will really
dictate how the site is going to develop. They have some issues they have to set up with the Met
Council on that, too. Mr. Bolin may have more information on that.
Mr. Bolin
stated typically they are not before the Commission with a development agreement
this early on a project. They really try to get by with just a letter to MHFA saying, hey, if you
will give them these credits they will figure everything out and maybe make a land sale happen.
They need to provide MHFA more than that. There is still a long ways to go even if and once
the credits are issued. This will have to go through the City process for a plat. It will also need a
rezoning and a master site plan approval for that. At that point, once the civil drawings start
being put together, that is when they will address a lot of things such as the ponding location and
how everything needs to drain out here.
Commissioner Backlund
asked whether there was an environmental impact statement
developed when they leased the property to the Met Council for the transit.
Attorney Casserly
replied he did not know whether they had a threshold problem or issue or
not. He asked Mr. Bolin whether he knew.
Mr. Bolin
replied as all of these stations were being developed there were a number of EIS’s that
were done, up and down the line, including the City’s site as well.
Commissioner Backlund
asked would that qualify for satisfying the requirement for the
ponding.
Mr. Bolin
replied there are no EIS’s required for doing a pond for this site. It is simply a review
by the City Engineering staff and the local watershed district.
Commissioner Backlund
asked if the City gets to control that with the watershed.
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Mr. Bolin
replied he believed it was in the Mississippi Watershed Management Organization
which the City’s engineers participate in.
Commissioner Backlund
stated so they do not get involved in the MPCA then.
Mr. Bolin
replied, the HRA does not get involved in the MPCA on storm ponds typically unless,
as they are digging the pond out, they find contamination.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
asked whether there is any reason they cannot use the existing
pond.
Mr. Bolin
replied, when they would get to the second or third phase, they would need to get rid
of the existing storm pond that sits on that north end. In order to get more parking in for Metro
Transit, that drainage would need to change. This is one of those things where, as they look at
this site even before they kind of had this layout that Metro Transit wanted, they had always
talked about the best spot for the pond would be down in that southwest corner where it is kind
of tucked away from everything and blocked by the electric company just to the east of that site
as well. The grades out there are not so severe that it is not a huge engineering undertaking to
redirect the water out on this site.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
stated she always thought its current location is an attractive
nuisance on that corner there where there are a lot of people with little kids walking around, etc.
That makes sense to her.
MOTION
by Commissioner Holm approving the Development Agreement for NS Rail Housing
Development. Seconded by Commissioner Mulrooney.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON PRO TEM GABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. Metropolitan Council LCDA Application Resolution of Support.
MOTION
by Commissioner Holm approving the Metropolitan Council LCDA Application
Resolution of Support. Seconded by Commissioner Backlund.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON PRO TEM GABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. Approval of 4M Fund Membership.
Shelly Peterson,
Finance Director/Treasure, stated what the Commission has before them
tonight is authorizing membership into the 4M Fund which is kind of a standard resolution they
require the HRA completes and submit to them in order to gain membership. It is a free
membership and is endorsed by the Minnesota League of Cities. Many cities and entities of
cities participate in this program. The reason it is so appealing for the HRA right now is that
they have so many exciting new projects coming, and the HRA has tax settlement money
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coming. Typically they invest HRA money for longer periods of time, but right now the HRA’s
cash flow is really unpredictable for some big projects that could be coming in the next couple of
months. Also, they have Paul Hyde present talking about his project, and the agreement the
HRA has with him is quite unique and makes it difficult for cash flow.
Ms. Peterson
stated with that the HRA has the opportunity to roll some its tax settlement money
into a higher earning savings account just to keep for a while until it figures out what the HRA
can invest.
Commissioner Holm
stated given today’s interest rates he suspects the margin of difference is
not particularly significant but it could be over the longer term.
Ms. Peterson
replied correct. As an example, currently with the bank they do their checking
with they have a savings account there for just readily accessible money; and she thinks it earns
.14 percent or possibly .2. The savings account at 4M is close to .7. When you are putting
millions in for a short period of time it is a nice place to sock it away.
Commissioner Backlund
asked whether they have to worry about arbitrage.
Ms. Peterson
replied, arbitrage would be with bond money; and the HRA does not have any
debt.
MOTION
by Commissioner Holm approving the 4M Fund Membership. Seconded by
Commissioner Backlund.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON PRO TEM GABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Informational items
1. Northern Stacks Update
Paul Hyde,
Hyde Development,stated it has almost four years now since they first had their
term sheet approved. They have some exciting progress to update the HRA on. This is really
meant as an update on the progress of the project. He will discuss updates as to the budget,
buildings completed to date, as well as next step, and a final slide on the TIF refinancing.
Mr. Hyde
stated in 2015 they got the site delisted from the Superfund list (the site soils). The
groundwater was kept listed as a way to keep hooks into the Navy to keep them running the
groundwater system. This was a major milestone showing not only for their tenants but the bank
and others that they were actually moving forward and cleaning up the site and it was done.
Mr. Hyde
stated at that time there were two remaining issues, the Navy’s plating shop, BAE’s
paint shop, and one of the things he is most delighted by is they had both the Navy and BAE put
their own capital into resolving those two issues. Once they had taken the floor off the site, they
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had a chance to address them and clean them up using their own money in a cost-effective way
that resolved the issue.
Mr. Hyde
stated they have been working with the existing groundwater extraction system which
continues to operate on site. They work around that, they have moved some wells, they have
rebuilt some infrastructure; but that has never stopped working.
Mr. Hyde
stated as to the public financing, they thought they had a good idea of what the clean-
up costs were going to be but you actually do not know until you are in the ground doing your
investigation and getting your clean-up plan approved. They could not apply for grant funds to
clean up the site in one application. There simply was $12 million in need, and you usually get
$1 to $2 million at the most in a grant cycle. Therefore, they carved the site up into four slices of
pizza and applied in four different installments for that pollution clean-up funding for Met
Council and DEED; and they were successful every single time they applied. They were
awarded thankfully for every dollar they applied for.
Mr. Hyde
stated at the same time they had all this infrastructure cost on site. They had one
building with one water line and one sanitary sewer, one driveway they had to turn into eight
buildings with their own water and sewer lines, storm water ponding which had never taken
place on the site; and they projected that cost to be just about $20 million. That is where the tax
increment came in to fund that extraordinary infrastructure cost.
Mr. Hyde
stated finally, City staff and HRA very cleverly created sort of a start-up fund of HRA
grants they received for every phase of the project. That allowed them to start the testing, to
figure out what pollution was there, to apply for the grants. The reason they were awarded 100
percent of their applied amounts, of the four times they applied to DEED and Met Council, is the
HRA had its own grant in there. DEED and Met Council would always say, well, what is the
City doing? The City had already committed first through the HRA’s hazardous substance
subdistrict grants. So the grant funders said we know the City is in, they are going to give this
everything we can. They were awarded more money than any other project on any of those
cycles.
Mr. Hyde
stated they are not done with their budget. He gave a breakdown of the uses side:
land, $14 million; buildings, around $97 million; CAP (the paved areas where they are covering
the impacted soil that stays on site); infrastructure, came in at $16 million; developments costs
(everything from tenant improvements to broker fees to soft costs – loan fees); and
environmental at $14.7 million. They got a great deal on the demolition because they were able
to get credit for the scrap steel and copper in that building to offset the cost. There are also some
modest relocation costs.
Mr. Hyde
stated as to the sources of funds and grants, that is the Met Council and DEED, 5
percent of the costs. The HRA grants. He thinks they are at $3 million today. There is the TIF.
They spent the money on the land and there are the construction loans they borrowed, and they
put in another $2 million for miscellaneous expenses.
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Mr. Hyde
stated with BAE and the five buildings south of BAE, they are now 82 percent of the
square footage either built or under construction. Northern Stacks I was a 213,000 square foot
bulk warehouse. They completed that in the spring of 2015. Once this first building went up and
they started the second building, they have not been able to keep up with the demand for the
project. In this case, $60 million of private investment; infrastructure and clean-up, $6.8 million.
Mr. Hyde
stated as to the BAE, it is a 560,000 foot technology center and was an adaptive reuse
to the existing building. They finished that in November 2015. It was a $26 million private
investment and about $6 million in clean-up and infrastructure. As to Stacks II they started in
the spring of 2016. That was a private investment in the amount of about $13 million and $3
million in infrastructure and cleanup. As to Stacks III they started that last October and
completed in April 2017. That is 70 percent leased. Private investment there was about $13
million and cleanup and infrastructure was about $4.6 million. They started Northern Stacks IV
which is scheduled for completion in October 2017. That is a 177,000 foot bulk warehouse.
They are 82 percent leased already. When they are done, that will be about an $18.9 million
private investment with $2.5 million in cleanup and infrastructure.
Mr. Hyde
stated they are getting all their tenants from the warehouse district in Minneapolis or
the Midway who want new modern buildings. They are headed out west and they stop in
Fridley. They say we want this kind of building. It is closer to downtown, it is closer to our
employees, all of them like the bus routes, and that new product closer in is something they did
not see. Before they are landing in Rogers, they are landing in Fridley.
Mr. Hyde
stated they just closed yesterday for their construction loan for Stacks V. This is the
building that will be right along East River Road. It is scheduled to be completed in December.
They have probably 200 percent of the space interested by tenants. They have 118,000 feet and
250,000 feet of prospects looking at it. They are getting more of a higher office finish here than
some of the other buildings. That will be a $13.9 million building and about $2.5 million in
cleanup and infrastructure.
Mr. Hyde
stated with those projects that have gone through they are at 82 percent of the square
footage developed or under construction. They projected this would be a ten-year project, and
they closed in July 2013. They have been fully funded on their grant funds to clean up Phase IV,
the northern 22 acres of the site. Each one of these cleanups has been a completely different
cleanup. The first buildings were really a parking lot, there was Phase III (the plating shop and
the paint shop), and BAE building was its own unique animal. Its outside storage yard had a
bunch of crummy soil in it and buried metal debris. They have two buildings left and they
project those will be done in 2018 and 2019. If it keeps going at this pace, they will be done
sooner. The cleanup on the Stacks VI building will be done in August, and the cleanup on the
last site will be done in November.
Mr. Hyde
stated to date they have 1,362,000 square feet of building either built or under
construction. About 900 new jobs. When they started it was in the high 300’s and over
$65 million including the stuff they have done. They were fortunate to have the project featured
on the cover of their trade magazine which is a national magazine produced by NAIOP which is
their trade group. The article was entitled, “The Rise of the Urban Warehouse, E-Commerce,”
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and what folks like Amazon and Staples are trying to do to get that last mile of delivery so you
can get your Amazon order within 24 hours. Projects like their park are what is making that
happen. That was the feature of the article. Great visibility. They have also been fortunate to
win NAIOP awards, cleanup awards from the ReScape awards, Finance and Commerce, and then
the Business Journal best in real estate.
Mr. Hyde
introduced the idea, under 3.7 of the Development Agreement, asking the Authority
after the completion of these now three phases, up to the fourth phase, to issue bonds to replace
those T.I. notes. They have been able to get bank loans to fund the tax increment PAYGO notes.
They borrowed the money from the bank; used that money to pay for the infrastructure, cleanup,
and demolition; and then they get issued a PAYGO note. What has happened is they have so
much of the PAYGO notes out with the bank, the banks are saying we are done. They cannot get
any more of these PAYGO notes approved. Mr. Hyde asked to start a conversation with the
Authority about some sort of take-out to refinance those notes so they can get the last few done
and complete the project.
Attorney Casserly
asked Mr. Hyde how much have they borrowed from the Bank of Nebraska
for the tax increment note part of it? He knows they do separate notes with each phase, and then
they pledge, they do a collateral assignment, and he thinks that is just what was signed here.
Mr. Hyde
replied, they were coming up to $17 or $18 million with the one they closed
yesterday. The last two buildings will be about $3 million total. They will be right around the
$20 million mark when they are done. They have not drawn all that yet because they have to do
that work this summer, but that is what is committed by the bank. Frankly, they got them a lot
farther than he thought.
Attorney Casserly
stated the project is generating tax increment. It is generating some hundreds
of thousands a year right now of tax increment. Those notes that have been pledged to the bank,
they allocate the increment to the various notes and then pay the bank. That is occurring right
now and what Paul Hyde is asking is at some point he would like the Authority to consider
issuing a bond to take out some of these notes that have already been issued. There are notes so
in effect it would be paying off the Bank of Nebraska some amount of money. There is no way
the HRA is going to take out all the notes. Also, at the end of the day they are not exactly sure
how many notes are going to be issued.
Attorney Casserly
stated that is why there are a number of issues surrounding the issuance of
any kind of bond. The passage of time is sorting out all of these issues. More valuation is
coming on line. At some point they are going to be doing a reconciliation in which they
determine the total amount of notes that will actually be issued in this project. The maximum
they have committed to is $20 million, but the HRA gets to adjust the later notes by what they
call a clawback arrangement, whereby if the developer exceeds certain percentages that they
have built into the agreement, then they will reduce the note on a pro rata basis.
Attorney Casserly
stated this is all part of a rather complicated arrangement which they do not
do on a lot of these, but because of the complexity and the size of this one and the fact that no
one knew if this project would be successful, they built in some arrangements whereby they do
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review all the revenues and expenses for the project and they will make revenue notes
adjustments accordingly. These are all things that will be coming back to the HRA over a period
of time and they can talk further.
Attorney Casserly
stated there are a number of issues that go into dealing with issuing a bond.
The theory would be this would be a tax exempt revenue bond supported only by the revenues of
the project. Before they go any further on that they are going to be asking the City’s finance
director and financial consultant to be giving the Authority an overview on how this works. The
agreement is very clear. This is absolutely discretionary with the Authority, and they would do it
getting all the advice that they want.
Attorney Casserly
stated the City has a lot on its plate right now. To try and review all of this at
this time is not particularly prudent. Plus there is an enormous amount of valuation that is going
to be coming on line January 1 of next year. There are two or three buildings that will be
showing up either fully taxed or substantially fully taxed. They will have a better understanding
of that.
Attorney Casserly
stated right now there is something in excess of $50 million of market
valuation and, when these buildings come on line, it is going to be clearly $60, $70, or $80
million. Because of the complexity of the project they had always known that it would be very
difficult to be able to do all of the revenue notes without considering some other options. This
may be one of the largest revenue note projects in the State.
Chairperson Pro Tem Gabel
stated clearly they will have a million questions which cannot be
answered at this point in time. However, she asked Mr. Hyde if he had a timeframe he was
looking at.
Mr. Hyde
replied, his sense is, in talking with attorney Casserly and Mr. Bolin, is that the more
that is certain the easier it is. Starting in January 2018 they are done with all but the last two
buildings and, frankly, one of them might be under construction. That is a really good time to
start thinking about it.
Commissioner Backlund
asked whether the Bank of Nebraska is stressed at all?
Mr. Hyde
replied, it is the largest privately held bank in the United States.
Commissioner Backlund
stated so $20 million is not a big factor with them.
Mr. Hyde
replied, no, but banks are subject to pressure from regulators. Regulators do not like
long-term loans in a bank, and these TIF loans have to be longer term to match the term of the
district to get repaid. That is what they do not like. When they see so many of them, they are
saying what is the long-term plan. That is the stresser. Not the money. Clearly they are
producing increment. It is just a question of how long is it going to be on the books.
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2. Housing Program Update
Mr. Bolin
stated in the month of May they issued 2 revolving loans, and then there was 1 other
loan. Oftentimes a CE might use a small portion of the HRA’s funds as a match for another loan
program that it has. For the year to date, they have done 3 revolving loans and the 1 other which
gives them 4. Also, for the past week and one-half or so there have been some postcards the CE
has prepared to go out. They are doing all the single-family homes in Fridley, and they did a
special mailing to the mobile home parks to help get the word out on that program as well.
Mr. Bolin
stated as to the Remodeling Advisor, they had the first 2 for the year in May. With
the Home Energy Squad, as it gets into summer it is kind of their quiet time, but they still did 6
visits in May giving them 26 for the year to date.
Commissioner Holm
asked whether they will have a work session to discuss the bonds.
Attorney Casserly
replied, they will have a lot of discussion. The City will want to weigh in on
this, too, because even though they are not pledging their credit to it, it is a big deal and a big
issue. They are going to want to make certain it will not have a negative impact on their debt.
They are two separate bodies and they can issue debt separately. This is not a general obligation
backing. It is not even a general obligation of the Authority. It is a pure revenue bond of the
Authority, so that gets you into all kinds of underwriting issues and requirements dealing with
coverages and terms.
ADJOURN
:
MOTION
by Commissioner Holm to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner Backlund.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON PRO TEM GABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE MEETING
ADJOURNED AT 8:23 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Denise M. Johnson
Recording Secretary