VAR 94-216125454266
September 9, 1994
6 1 2D 5 4 5 4 2 E - 6 0 TO: 612 571 1287 P02
Scott Hickok
City of Fridley
6431 University Avenue NB
Fridley, MN 55432
► Dear Scott,
This letter is request the minutes from the August 23, 1994
Appeals Commission meeting, including the introduction of
members and the section regarding Variance Request VAR
#94-21 for River Pointe Apartments.
In addition, I would like the names and contact numbers of the
members of the panel on that night. Please forward this infor-
mation to me by Monday, September 12, 1994 or call me to let
me know when copies would be available to pick up at your
office.
We appreciate your prompt consideration of this matter.
Thank you.
Sint iy,
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Myrna; rensten
cc. William Burns, City Manager
Bob Levine, KMS Management, Inc.
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Y COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1994 AGE 16
pay a park dedication fee of $750.00 per lot at the ime of buil-
ding permit issuance; (6) the petitioner shall p ide a verifying
survey prior to the capping of the foundation• (7) the petitioner
and staff shall designate which trees shal e preserved and pro-
tected pursuance to the restrictive cov ants. The map prepared
as a result of the staff's field ins _tion shall be attached to
these stipulations; and (8) each 1 shall be assessed $1,000 for
the 64th Avenue storm water pr ect. Seconded by Councilwoman
Bolkcom. Upon a voicevo , all voting aye, Mayor Pro Tem
Schneider declared the mot' n carried unanimously.
7. ESTABLISH A PUBLI HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 19, 199
CORNER OF THE
MOTION b Councilwoman Jorgenson to set the public hearing for Plat
Reques , P.S. #94-05, for September 19, 1994 and notify residents
who tended the prior meetings. Seconded by Councilwoman Bolkcom.
Up a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Pro Tem Schneider declared
e motion carried unanimously.
8. RECEIVE AN ITEM FROM THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING OF
AUGUST 23, 1994•
A. VARIANCE REQUEST, VAR #94-21, BY IMAGINALITY, INC., FOR MEADOW
RUN APARTMENTS TO REDUCE THE SETBACK OF A SIGN FROM THE
PROPERTY LINE FROM 10 FEET TO 0 FEET TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION
OF A NEW SIGN GENERALLY LOCATED AT 7855 EAST RIVER ROAD
(WARD 3):
Mr. Hickok, Planning Coordinator, stated that this is a request for
a variance to allow the setback of a sign to be at zero feet
instead of the required ten feet to allow construction of a new
sign which would run perpendicular with the roadway. He stated
that there is an existing sign which will be removed as well as
the center monument.
Mr. Hickok stated that the Appeals Commission unanimously
recommended approval of this variance. He stated that staff
believes there are alternatives to this variance by modifying the
entry island. He stated that this will allow the required 25 foot
aisle and still provide adequate space for the sign to meet the
required ten foot setback.
Mr. Hickok stated that staff has just learned that the County may
need additional right-of-way at this location for the 'improvement
of East River Road. He stated that if that is the case, the sign
may have to be replaced.
Ms. Olek, representing the Management Company for Meadow Run
Apartments, stated that she felt the best place for the sign is
FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1994 PAGE 15
Mr. Hickok, Planning Coordinator, stated that staff evaluated the
woodland area, what significant trees existed, and identified the
trees to be preserved on this site.
Mayor Pro Tem Schneider asked who is the owner of the property.
Ms. Dacy stated that Tim Strong is the petitioner and will e
acquiring the property behind 1476 and 1490 64th Avenue if is
lot split is approved. She stated that the owners have signe for
the lot split.
Ms. Dacy stated that the Appeals Commission consider/aont yard
variance request for placement of the homes on the sand this
was unanimously approved. She stated that since were no
objections this issue would not be submitted to Cou
Mayor Pro Tem Schneider stated that the ditch at runs on the
south side of the parcel has been an issue wit the neighborhood
for years. He asked staff's proposal for main fining this ditch.
Mr. Hickok stated that on the south side the is a natural growth
area, while there has been some trimming d ne on the north side.
He stated that neighboring residents want d to let the site grow
in a more natural state, and he believed is should be encouraged.
Councilman Billings asked if the/eunder
a lot split that splits the
west and east halves of this lot
Ms. Dacy stated that these lots separate descriptions,
and she did not know when that o lot split took place.
Mr. Hickok stated that the Co ty has indicated that there was a
survey on file before 1959 t t indicates there are two lots. He
stated that each of the to s are separate tax parcels and are
recognized as the east an west half of Lot 1, Block 2, Spring
Valley Addition. He sta d that the lot split will separate the
two pieces and allow the to be sold as independent parcels.
MOTIO/dh
Councilwoma Jorgenson to adopt Resolution No. 72-1994,
with following ipulations attached as Exhibit A: (1) the
petitshall p ovide the information requested in Items a
throuprior t the issuance of a building permit: (a) clarify
the at of f' 1 in the front yard by adding additional spot
elevaand rainage arrows on the grading plan; (b) clarify how
the sw d' ch section along Arthur Street will be handled; (c)
provicu to first floor elevations to insure proper grades for
the sar sewer services; and (d) provide an erosion control
plan pliance with Chapter 208; (2) water and sewer services
shallrovided to the dwelling units; (3) the sanitary sewer
conneshall be made via the manhole located at the intersec-
tion rthur and Camelot Streets; (4) the petitioner shall pay
the ariate connection fees and SAC charges ($800.00 per unit)
at the time of building permit issuance; (5) the petitioner shall
contract with ACCAP to administer the home improvement ant
program.
MOTION by Councilwoman Jorgenson to approve the service ontract
with Anoka County Community Action Program for adminis ration of
the home improvement grant program. Seconded by uncilwoman
Bolkcom. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, M or Pro Tem
Schneider declared the motion carried unanimously.
10.
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Ms. Dacy, Community Development Director, ated that the Anoka
County Community Action Program (ACCAP) ha submitted an applica-
tion to the Minnesota Housing Finance gency to acquire and
rehabilitate one four-plex and two seve unit buildings in Hyde
Park. She stated that the purpose of the project is to create
affordable housing for single, low inc e individuals. She stated
that the three buildings will be own d and managed by ACCAP as a
leasehold cooperative, and the tena is will lease the share from
ACCAP, rather than own a share of t cooperative. Ms. Dacy stated
that the properties to be acquired are 6008 2nd Street, 5908 2-1/2
Street, and 5916 2-1/2 Street.
Ms. Dacy stated that adoption o this resolution endorses Council's
support of this project. She tated that ACCAP has also requested
HRA assistance, and they /haveagreed to finance up to fifty percent
of the rehabilitation coShe stated that there would be a tax
loss for the three propeof $1,309.94; however, the advantage
is the units would be ilitated to an increased value and
create affordable housin low income individuals.
MOTION by Councilwoma Bolkcom to adopt Resolution No. 73-1994.
Seconded by Councilm7h Billings. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Mayor ProT Schneider declared the motion carried
unanimously.
11. APPO
Ms. Dacy, Comunity Development Director, stated that the Human
Resources Co mission has recommended that Mr. Charles. Welf be
appointed as the City's representative to the National Organization
on Disabil' y. She stated that Mr. Welf would replace Mr. Roger
Blohm who as previously appointed and is no longer able to serve
as the Ci y's representative.
MOTION y Councilwoman Jorgenson to appoint Charles Welf as the
City's/representative to the National Organization on Disability.
Secon t
d by Councilwoman Bolkcom. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Mayor Pro Tem Schneider declared the motion carried
unanimously.
FRIDLEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 6,1994 PAGE 17
perpendicular to the monument. She stated that the traffic area
is very tight. If the curb was moved in any closer, there could.
be increased problems with traffic, snow removal, and the garbage
trucks coming into the site. She stated that tonight was the first
time she has heard of the potential right-of-way problem.
Mr. Flora, Public Works Director, stated that the City received
notice today from the County that they had received funding for the
improvement of East River Road in front of the Meadow Run Apart-
ments and are looking at an additional 27 feet of right-of-way.
Ms. Olek stated that the sign is not a permanent structure and
could be moved at a later time, if necessary.
Councilwoman Bolkcom stated that she felt it would not increase its
visibility by moving the sign forward.
Ms. Olek stated that she felt locating the sign closer to the road
and having lights would provide a grand entrance for the apartment
complex. She stated that locating the sign further from the road-
way, near the landscaping would not be that visible.
Councilwoman Jorgenson felt that by removing the pillars, the sign
would become more visible, but she cannot support the variance as
it stands. She felt that perhaps the petitioner would like more
time to contact the County as to their plans for the improvement
of East River Road.
Ms. Olek stated that this would be satisfactory, as tonight is the
first she received word on the County's plans.
MOTION by Councilwoman Bolkcom to table this item to the
October 17, 1994 Council meeting. Seconded by Councilwoman
Jorgenson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Pro Tem
Schneider declared the motion carried unanimously.
9. APPROVE SERVICE CONTRACT WITH ANOKA COUNTY COMMUNITY ACTION
PROGRAM FOR ADMINISTRATION OF HOME IMPROVEMENT GRANT GRAM:
Mr. Fernelius, Housing Coordinator, stated t at their
February 7, 1994 meeting Council allocated $124 2 in CDBG funds
for housing rehabilitation. He stated that ese funds are to be
used to provide grants for low income ho wners to upgrade their
residences to meet the basic code re irements. Mr. Fernelius
stated that applications were acce ed in July. Over 23 people
applied, and twenty were eligibl for this program.
Mr. Fernelius stated that e City has contracted with the Anoka
County Community Action ogram (ACCAP) to administer this program
at a cost eleven pe ent of the budget. He stated that this
represents an inc se of one percent from last year's service
contract. He ecommended that Council approve this service
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FRIDLEY 027 94063056 1 R S 1856 4/21/94 LIFER, JOANN ARDITH
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Community Development Department
PLANNING DIVISION
City of Fridley
September 1, 1994
William Burns, City Manager
Barbara Dacy, Community Development Director
Scott Hickok, Planning Coordinator
Variance Request, VAR #94-21, by Imaginality for
Riverpointe Limited (Meadow Run); 7855 East River
Road N.E.
At the August 23, 1994 Appeals Commission meeting, the Commission
evaluated the request by Imaginality to install a 24 square foot
sign on the property line adjacent to the right-of-way at 7855
East River Road N.E. (Meadow Run Apartments).
Section 214.09.01.0 of the City Code requires a minimum distance
of 10 feet from any property line or driveway.
The entry gate feature that exists at this complex will be
resurfaced with stucco and the center monument will be removed.
The petitioner does not want to reconstruct the entry island to
meet the required 10 foot setback from the property line.
uT CTnTW
There have been two cases where a 0 foot setback has been
approved. These sites are the Medtronic facility at 7000 Central
Avenue and the Grace Evangelical Free Church at 7436 Melody
Drive.
APPEALS COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
The Commission unanimously concurred with the petitioner and
recommended approval of the variance request.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that a modification to the entry island will
allow the code required 25 foot aisle width and still provide
adequate space for a sign that meets the required 10 foot setback
VAR #94-21, by Imaginality
September 1, 1994
Page 2
from the property line. An illustration has been attached to
highlight the potential alternatives.
Staff recommends denial of the variance request to allow the sign
to be constructed with a 0 foot setback due to the alternative
sign locations available.
SH/dn
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APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 23, 1994 PAGE 9
is level so there is no need for correction. It about four inches
above the 100 -year flood level.
Mr. Kuechle stated the house looked like it was below the dike.
Mr. Maher stated when sitting in the living room they can see the
Mississippi River.
MOTION by Ms. Smith, seconded by Dr. Vos, to close the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:03
P.M.
Ms. Smith stated this is an unusual situation where there is
discussion about side yard or front yard. In this case, what is
referred to as the back yard is the side yard. If this was
considered to be the side yard, it would be within the code and
would not require a variance. The public purpose is being served,
and there is plenty of green space. She would vote for approval.
Dr. Vos concurred. The foot print, even with the addition, leaves
a lot of green space. The lot has the corner cut out of it so they
really cannot move it anywhere and still put on the addition. It
makes sense.
Mr. Kuechle agreed. Although the way the rules are written, it is
not a back yard. It really functions as a side yard.
MOTION by Ms. Smith, seconded by Dr. Vos, to recommend approval of
Variance Request, VAR #94-20, by Monte and Michelle Maher to reduce
the rear yard setback from 40 feet to 30 feet on Lots 16-21, Block
W, Riverview Heights Addition, the same being 7965 Riverview
Terrace, to allow the construction of an addition with the
stipulation:
1. Special Use Permit, SP #94-12, shall be approved.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. McPherson stated the Planning Commission would review the
special use permit on September 7 and the City Council would review
the request on September 19.
4. PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REQUEST, VAR #94-
21. BY IMAGINALITY INC. FOR MEADOW RUN APARTMENTS:
Pursuant to Section 214.09.01.0 of the Fridley Sign Code, to
reduce the setback of a sign from the property line from 10
feet to 0 feet to allow construction of a new sign on Lot 3,
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APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 23 1994 PAGE 10
Block 1, Meadow Run First Addition, the same being 7855 East
River Road.
MOTION by Ms. Smith, seconded by Dr. Vos, to open the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON RUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 8:05
P.M.
Mr. Hickok stated the variance request is to reduce the sign
setback from 10 feet from the property line to 0 feet. The
property is the former Meadow Run apartment complex. Between 1970
and 1972, three buildings were constructed, along with a
recreational complex and a swimming pool. Along with the
construction of that complex was an entry gate feature which
includes a large bollard with a stone face on either side of the
entry. On the island between the entry and exit lanes, there is
another monument with stone face, and the sign for the complex was
on that entry gate. The petitioner wishes to take out the center
monument and build a new 24 square foot sign perpendicular to the
roadway with a zero foot setback. The requirements in the R-3,
General Multiple Family Dwelling, require a 10 -foot setback. Staff
reviewed the request based on the following criteria:
A. That there are exceptional or extraordinary circumstances
applicable to the property or to the intended use that do not
apply generally to other property in the same vicinity and
district.
Staff reviewed the site and feels that, for the most part, there
are many other examples of similar complexes that have similar
conditions and have been able to construct a sign within the 10 -
foot setback dimension. As noted in the staff report, Georgetown
Apartments were granted a variance to less than 10 feet due to
conditions on site. The variance was granted to approximately 5 or
6 feet from the property line. There are no exceptional or
extraordinary circumstances applicable to the subject parcel.
B. That the variance is necessary for the preservation and
enjoyment of a substantial property right possessed by other
property in the same vicinity and district, but which is
denied the property in question.
Staff feels this is not a unique situation and that other complexes
with similar circumstances have been able to live with the 10 foot
setback dimension.
C. That the strict application of the Chapter would constitute an
unnecessary hardship.
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Staff after review feel denial would not constitute a hardship and
the petitioner could according to some alternatives install the
sign according to code.
D. That the granting of the variance would not be materially
detrimental to the public health, safety, or general welfare,
or detrimental to the property in the vicinity or district in
which the property is located.
The purpose of the sign code is to limit the number, size and
location of sign in order to reduce visual clutter. Staff feel
that granting this variance would be contrary to the intent of the
code.
Mr. Hickok stated the petitioner has submitted a letter, included
with the staff report, which states they feel there are
circumstances on the site to make the variance necessary,
including: 1) to install the entrance monument to make it visible
to oncoming traffic prior to the point of turning; 2) there is not
sufficient property to install the sign so it is visible - the sign
needs to be perpendicular to traffic and double faced; 3) to remove
the existing stone monument structure from the entrance island; 4)
the current setback of 10 feet would place part of the sign in the
midst of a two way drive through; 5) to increase the center island
curb into the two way drive area would interrupt traffic flow and
add significant cost; and 6) to grant the variance would be of no
harm, materially or generally to the public or the property.
Mr. Hickok stated staff has indicated there are alternatives. One
alternative is to reduce the size of the two-way drive aisle to 25
feet and move the center island curb back which would require
reconstructing the radius on the back side. Doing so would leave
19.5 feet from the curb of the radius to the property line. Staff
feels there would be adequate space in that area to construct a
sign. The petitioner feels this may cause additional problems due
to traffic. There are parallel parking stalls along the edge of
the parking lot. The petitioner could add a radius to the entry
sides the same distance and delineate these parallel parking
stalls.
Mr. Hickok stated the petitioner would prefer to keep the sign
perpendicular to the roadway to make it visible to those who travel
along East River Road. Staff feels the complex itself does its own
advertising and there is a plan to match the color scheme on the
building with the sign package. Another alternative might be to
place the sign parallel with the road way which would allow to see
the sign at the complex.
Mr. Hickok stated, in the past, the Commission has approved a sign
variance to less than 10 feet. Staff feels the petitioner has not
met the four criteria for granting a variance. Staff has no
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recommendation at this time; however, the request is within
previously granted variance limitations.
Ms. Smith asked where the property lines are located.
Mr. Hickok stated the property lines are where the bollards are
current located. The center island extends beyond the property
line.
Dr. Vos asked if the monument removal would provide better site
lines when going down East River Road.
Mr. Hickok stated staff discussed this with the petitioner. He
thought there is a toss up between this location and pulling the
sign back. He felt pulling the sign back may actually increase the
sight lines.
Ms. Orensten, Imaginality, stated staff comments indicate the
purpose served is to control visual pollution and eliminate the
potential for signs which conflict with driver visibility. As they
look at the complex, they don't see the sign until right at the
complex. There is then a right turn into the complex and another
immediate right turn to the parking lot. They feel an attractively
designed sign will enhance and beautify the entrance to the complex
and not be considered visual pollution. The proposed sign area is
also planned to make sense with the landscaping. The area is
extensively landscaped. The current sign or even a new sign that
is not perpendicular could be considered a hazard because it is not
visible until just before the turn. They are proposing a sign
which is visible 200 feet before the entrance at 0 foot setback.
If the sign is at the 10 foot setback, they feel the distance where
it would be viewed would be reduced both for those coming in but
reduce visibility for those inside the complex.
Ms. Orensten stated the purpose of the sign code is to limit the
number, size and locations of the sign in order to reduce visual
pollution. They disagree in that they are not asking for
additional signs or a larger sign. The location back from the curb
makes a great deal of impact on the flow of traffic within the
complex. Bringing the curb out within the complex would be
additional cost which is the hardship. This also affects snow
storage and removal. They are upgrading the entire complex part of
which is to remove the monument in the island, removing the dark
lava rock from the bollards and re -stuccoing them, and upgrading
the landscaping.
Ms. Orensten showed photos of other complexes and their signs. The
proposed sign for this complex is a very tasteful sign to enhance
the complex. She showed a rendition of the proposed sign at the
current setback within the existing structure and showed another
version of the same sign with a pedestal. Their concern with an
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extended curb in the island is that the driving lanes would be
reduced and then the turn would be to tight.
Dr. Vos asked Ms. Orensten her reaction to the alternative setback
nearer the building.
Ms. Orensten stated she thought this would do more harm than good.
There would then be no visibility before getting to the complex.
East River Road is a busy street and, if someone not familiar with
area and looking for the complex, they often almost drive past and
then slow suddenly to make the turn. The proposed plan actually
decreases the number of signs.
Ms. Smith asked if she had gotten police records to see if there
were traffic problems in that area.
Ms. Orensten stated she understood from property management that it
is tough traffic area so they wanted to get the police reports to
have some statistics. They have talked to them to find out what
the problems are in that area. They have not received the police
reports at this time.
Mr. Kuechle asked if they had considered turning the sign 90
degrees.
Ms. Orensten stated by making the sign parallel to the street
becomes the issue of visibility to the oncoming traffic who is
being addressed.
Mr. Kuechle asked if the addresses are given by street or by the
complex name.
Ms. Orensten stated it would normally given by the street.
Mr. Levine, KMS Management/Meadow Run, stated the signage issue is
part of a total upgrade. They acquired the property in May. This
was the only property in the City which did not have emergency
lighting which they have now installed. The property had five
underground storage tanks of which three were leaking. This has
all been corrected. All buildings will have new roofs. The indoor
pool is being redone and an outdoor pool added to the property.
They are doing a tremendous amount of cosmetics. As owners, they
feel what they are asking for is reasonable and ties in with the
whole upgrade. An interesting thing about the property is that,
inasmuch as the property line is really at the sign, it appears to
be at or near the roadway because of the location of the
landscaping. Their intent is to take down the monument, remove the
lava rock face and re -stucco so what is left is a sign that appears
to have a setback. The other signs will be removed so there will
be one attractive sign. The alternative of extending back the
island is a hardship in that it creates traffic problems as well as
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additional expense. They felt the money would be better spent on
safety concerns. What they are proposing will improve the overall
entry and the property in general.
Ms. Smith asked what they would do if the variance were denied.
Mr. Levine stated felt the alternative would be to put a sign
parallel to the street. The existing monument that is there is now
on the property line as are the monuments to the side.
Ms. Orensten stated, if they needed to get permission to do that,
how would they get the same 10 foot setback given the structures
that are existing. The existing structures are already on the
property line. They could put a sign on that wall of the sign in
the center island but it would not enhance the project.
Mr. Kuechle asked if the monument in the center island would be
removed.
Ms. Orensten stated yes.
Mr. Levine stated he saw the survey when he acquired the property.
They had thought of keeping the middle monument and bring a sign
out over the planter so that the front post would be at the planter
which is over the property line. The side monument also encroaches
on the property line. The only way to install a sign and keep it
behind the property line is to take down the monument which will
clean up the area and make it more pleasant. There are also
parking problems and they need all the spaces they can get.
Ms. Smith asked, with the existing monument already encroaching, if
they do anything to the signs, do they need to make the request to
change a sign.
Mr. Hickok stated yes. The changing is asking for a new sign
structure. It could be argued that these are signs and not entry
gates. Removing the signs at the gate would bring us to a new
permit situation and another variance.
Mr. Levine stated the Meadow Run sign is in the ground in front of
that wall. He has a hard time believing that cosmetically
resurfacing an existing wall has anything to do with changing the
structure.
Ms. McPherson stated this technically should not be in the public
right-of-way; however, it is not a structure that they can attach
a building requirement to. It is rather an aesthetic enhancement
which does not fall under the setback requirements. Once you put
signage on it, however, that will trigger a variance.
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Ms. Smith asked how far from the property line the center structure
was located.
Mr. Hickok stated this was approximately 2 feet from the property
line.
Dr. Vos asked if the County had any plans to widen East River Road.
Ms. McPherson stated the County has not yet improved this section.
She was not sure where this is as far as the County improvement
plans are concerned. She thought the County had adequate right-of-
way to do their work. If the County moved the curb line, the sign
would be closer to the right-of-way.
Mr. Brandt, 190 Craigbrook Way, stated he did not agree with the
request to put a sign on the property line. There is no
obstruction in front of the apartment building going north or
south. Setting the sign 10 feet back should be no reason a person
could not see that when driving by. If someone cannot see that
sign driving by at 10 feet, they ought not to be driving.
Visibility should have nothing to do with it. There is no
obstruction. You can see that sign for a long way going either
north or south. This is a residential area. Some of the signs
shown earlier were, not in residential areas. A 24 square foot sign
at 10 feet is adequate. They have enough signs there now and he
did not think they needed any more.
Ms. Smith stated she drove by the complex and did not see the sign.
When going by during rush hour, traffic moves quickly and it is
difficult to see. She asked Mr. Brandt if he was aware of any
accidents or traffic problems in that area because -people did not
see the signs.
Mr. Brandt stated he had never seen an accident on that corner.
Ms. Olek, KMS Management/Meadow Run, stated the way the curb is now
is very tight and, when traffic is entering, they must stop for
traffic now. Moving in the curb would make it more of a problem.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Smith, to close the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:53
P.M.
Dr. Vos stated he drove into the complex. He would not be in favor
of moving that curb any closer in. You have to look to the left to
see anyone coming in that lane if turning to the north. Moving
that curb back would not be advantageous. The monument being taken
out should enhance the area. He vote in favor of having the sign
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placed in the island. He was convinced this was as good as any
place. He would vote in favor.
Ms. Smith stated, when she came to the meeting, she was inclined to
vote against the request. But as she looks at the alternatives,
her sense is that for the public safety the 0 foot setback would be
advantageous. It would clean up that area and give the visibility
the sign needs to turn into there. Traffic does move quickly on
East River Road. The sooner someone can see the sign, the safer it
would be.
Mr. Kuechle concurred. Of all the possibilities that are there,
moving the curb back would have a negative impact. He can see
moving the monument out and putting the sign there. He would like
to see the sign self supporting rather than between the posts.
That would narrow the sign down somewhat and perhaps bring it in
not quite to the lot line.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Smith, to approve variance
request, VAR #94-21, by Imaginality Inc. for Meadow Run Apartments
to reduce the setback of a sign from the property line from 10 feet
to 0 feet to allow construction of a new sign on Lot 3, Block 1,
Meadow Run First Addition, the same being 7855 East River Road.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the request would be reviewed by the City
Council for final approval on September 6.
5. PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REQUEST, VAR #94-
22, BY GARY LARSON:
Pursuant to Section 205. 07. 01.B.(4).(a) of the Fridley City
Code, to increase the allowable square footage of a first
accessory structure from 1,000 square feet to 1,220 square
feet, and
Pursuant to Section 205.07.03.0 of the Fridley City Code, to
increase the maximum lot coverage from 25% to 26.8%, in order
to allow the construction of an attached garage addition on
Lot 3, Block 3, Riverview Park Addition, the same being'7121
Riverwood Drive N.E.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Smith, to open the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 8:57
P.M.
#C
STA]Fiv REPORT
Community Development Department
Appeals Commission Date : August 23, 1994
Planning Commission Date
City Council Date
APPLICATION NUMBER:
♦ VAR #94-21
PETITIONER•
♦ Imaginality Inc.
KMS Management - River Pointe Apartments
LOCATION:
♦ 7855 East River Road; near the southeast corner of the
intersection of East River Road and 79th Way. The property
is zoned R-3, General Multiple Family Dwelling and is
subject to the residential district requirements of the Sign
Code.
REQUEST•
♦ To reduce the setback from 10 feet to 0 feet to allow
installation of a new 24 square foot sign. The petitioner
has indicated that they do not believe there is adequate
property in which to install the sign in such a manner that
the sign could be visible. According to the petitioner, the
sign needs to be perpendicular to traffic and double faced.
The petitioner also indicated an intent to remove the
existing stone monument structure from the current entrance
island in order to make room for the proposed sign this does
not include the brick/rock signs which flank the driveway).
BACKGROUND•
♦ The petitioner recently applied for a sign permit to install
a 32 square foot identification sign on the East River Road
frontage.
Between the years 1970 and 1972 permits were issued for 3 -
59 unit buildings and a recreation complex with a 20' * 40'
pool and a series of garages. Those buildings comprise the
complex which will be known as the River Pointe Apartments
(formerly Meadow Run). In 1971 the first of the three
apartment buildings were completed and a permit for a 40
square foot wall sign was issued. There was also an
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VAR #94-21, by Imaginality Inc.
Page 2
ornamental gate/wall constructed to the entrance to the
complex. This feature also included a sign to identify the
Meadow Run complex. The City records are unclear as to the
size of the sign, and the date of installation.
ANALYSIS:
♦ Section 214.09.0l.0 of the Fridley Sign Code requires a
minimum distance of 10 feet from any property line or
driveway.
The public purpose served by this requirement is to control
visual pollution and eliminate the potential for signs which
conflict with driver visibility.
Prior to granting a variance from the provisions of the Sign
Code, four conditions must be met. These four conditions
are outlined in Section 214.21.02 of the Sign Code and are
as follows:
A. That there are exceptional or extraordinary
circumstances applicable to the property or to the
intended use that do not apply generally to other
property in the same vicinity and district.
Georgetown Apartments, located at 5750 East River Road is a
similar property in use and zoning. Located on that
property is a 96 square foot sign which received a number of
variances to increase the height, square footage, and
distance from the property line (see attached minutes). The
sign is located at the entrance to the complex, and is
parallel to the street. The subject parcel, in comparison,
has buildings closer to the street, and the proposed sign is
perpendicular to the traveled way. The parcel is not unique
when compared to other apartment complexes like Moore Lake
Apartments, River Road East Apartments, and the apartments
located on Polk Street and Lynde Drive. These complexes
have complied with the ordinance requirements. There are no
exceptional or extraordinary circumstances applicable to the
subject parcel.
B. That the variance is necessary for the preservation and
enjoyment of a substantial property right possessed by
other property in the same vicinity and district, but
which is denied the property in question.
The petitioner can exercise their property right by
installing a sign to the 10 foot minimum setback required by
code. Denial of the variance would not deny the petitioner
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VAR #94-21, by Imaginality Inc.
Page 3
this property right.
C. That the strict application of the Chapter would
constitute an unnecessary hardship.
Denial of the variance would not constitute a hardship as
the petitioner has installed a sign as permitted by code.
D. That the granting of the variance would not be
materially detrimental to the public health, safety, or
general welfare, or detrimental to the property in the
vicinity or district in which the property is located.
The purpose of the sign code is to limit the number, size,
and location of signs in order to reduce visual pollution.
Granting the variance would be contrary to the spirit and
intent of the code.
RECOMMENDATION/STIPULATIONS:
♦ The petitioner has not met the four criteria for granting a
variance to the sign code. Staff has no recommendation at
this time; however, the request is within previously -granted
variance limitations. One example is that Medtronic was
granted a reduction in the sign setback code from 10 feet to
0 feet in 1992.
EXTENT OF VARIANCES GRANTED 1986-1993
Case No.
Address
Code Section
Title
Required
Granted
92-14
991 - 68th Ave.
205.07.04.D.(1)
Front yard
35
17.5
C 86-14
205.15.03.C.(1)
Front yard
80
35
I 86-10
55 - 77th Ave.
205.18.03.D.(2)
Side yard
20
0
88-22
5973 - 3rd St.
205.16.03.D.(2)
Side yard
15
5
C 90-04
7680 Highway 65.
205.17.03.D.(2)(a)
Side yard
30
4
C 91-04
5201-5275 Central
205.15.03.C.(2)
Side yard
15
0
Lot 15, Block 2,
86-13
Riverwood Park
205.07.03.D.(2)(c)((2))
Side corner
30
5
88-10
1357 - 64th Ave.
205.07.03.D.(2)(c)((1))
Side corner
17.5
5.5
90-14
.350 Osborne Rd.
205.07.03.D.(2)(c)((3))
Side corner
25
15
I 90-31
7786 Beech St.
205.18.03.D.(2)(b)
Side corner
35
8
Rear yarn
88-06
6051 - 3rd St.
205.07.03.D.(3)(b)
detached accessory
3
1
89-08
115 Glen Creek Rd.
205.07.03.D.(3)(a)
Rear yard
33
0
C 92-21
7620 Univ. Ave.
205.15.03.D.(c)(3)
Rear yard
40
0
C 87-05
6501 E. River Rd.
205.14.03.C.(4)
Residential setback
50
11
Miss. River
90-11
7806 Alden Way
205.25.08.C.(1)
bluff line setback
40
5
Normal high water
90-11
7806 Alden Way
205.25.08.C.(2)
line setback
100
40
86-34
537 Fairmont St.
205.07.03.A.(2)
Lot area
7,500
5,500
I 90-31
7786 Beech St.
205.18.03.A
Lot area
65,340
14,320
I 90-31
7786 Beech St.
205.18.03.B
Lot width
150
89
Maximum accessory
91-07
1420 Rice Cr. Rd.
205.07.0l.B.(1)
building area
1,400
1,932
86-09
6468 Ashton Ave.
205.07.0l.B.(4)(a)
Maximum garage area
1,000
1,300
91-12
405 - 57th Place
205.07.0l.B.(4)(a)
Maximum garage area
1,000
1,270
I 87-02
5280 Main Street
205.18.03.C.(1)(a)
Maximum lot coverage
40%
490
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EXTENT OF
VARIANCES GRANTED 1986-1993
PAGE 2.
Case No.
Address
Code Section
TitleRequired
Granted
I 88-18
7770 Ranchers Rd.
205.18.03.C.(1)
Maximum lot coverage
40%
49.50
90-15
590 Kimball St.
205.07.03.0
Maximm lot coverage
250
28.6%
C 87-05
6501 E. River Rd.
205.14.07.D.(6)
Screening strip
15
0
91-33
501 Glencoe St.
205.07.04.B.(2)
Min. structure size
768
712.12
C 88-05
5351 Central Ave.
205.04.06.A.(6)
Fence height
8
15
91-10
7905 E. River Rd.
205.04.06.A.(7)
Fence height.
4
7
C 89-07
1001 Hillwind Rd.
205.16.04
Building height
45
52
Parking setback -
I 86-17
250 Commerce Cr.S.
205.17.05.D. (5) (a)
public right -of -bray
20
0
Parking setback -
C 86-24
7699 Viron Rd.
205.15.05.D. (5) (a)
public right-of—day
20
0
C 90-05
5205 Central Ave.
205.15.05.D.(4)(b)
Driving aisle
25
20
91-01
6180 Central Ave.
205.16.05.D. (4) (b)
Driving aisle
25
20
C 92-21
7620 Univ. Ave.
205.15.05.C.(1)
Parking spaces
102
13
Parking stall length
20
1
Parking stall width
10
9
Driveway/
C 87-24
7315 Highway 65
205.17.05.D.(4)(c)
Intersection Distance
75
19
C 87-38
6257 Highway 65
214_.11.02.B
Sign area
80 s.f.
224 s.f
90-20
6881 Highway 65
214.09.02.B
Sign area
3 s.f.
80 s.f
C 86-05
7810 Univ. Ave.
214.11.02.0
Sign area
25 s.f.
34 s.f
OC 92-05
7000 Central Ave.
214.12.02.E
Sign setback
10
0
92-25
7436 Melody Dr.
214.05.06.B
Sign setback
10
0
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is level so there is no need for correction. It about :four inches
above the 100 -year flood level.
J
Mr. Kuechle stated the house looked like it was blow the dike.
Mr. Maher stated when sitting in the living roam they can see the
Mississippi River.
MOTION by Ms. Smith, seconded by Dr.Vo to close the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYES' VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:03
P.M.
Ms. Smith stated this is an unusual situation where there is
discussion about side yard or/ ont yard. In this case, what is
referred to as the back yard ?is the side yard. If this was
considered to be the side yard, it would be within the code and
would not require a variance,: The public purpose is being served,
and there is plenty of greed space. She would vote for approval.
Dr. Vos concurred. The foot print, even with the addition, leaves
a lot of green space. The lot has the corner cut out of it so they
really cannot move it anywhere and still put on the addition. It
makes sense.
Mr. Kuechle agreed. Although the way the rules are written, it is
not a back yard. It really functions as a side yard.
MOTION by Ms. Smith, seconded by Dr. Vos, to recommend approval of
Variance Request, VAR #94-20, by Monte and Michelle Maher to reduce
the rear yarC setback from 40 feet to 30 feet on Lots 16-21, Block
W, RivervieW Heights Addition, the same being 7965 Riverview
Terrace, to allow the construction of an addition with the
stipulation:
1. Special Use Permit, SP #94-12, shall be approved.
UPON /A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DEC RED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
M . McPherson stated the Planning Commission would review the
ecial use permit on September 7 and the City Council would review
the request on September 19.
4. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REQUEST, VAR #94-
21, BY IMAGINALITY INC. FOR MEADOW RUN APARTMENTS:
Pursuant to Section 214.09.0l.0 of the Fridley Sign Code, to
reduce the setback of a sign from the property line from 10
feet to 0 feet to allow construction of a new sign on Lot 3,
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Block 1, Meadow Run First Addition, the same being 7855 East
River Road.
MOTION by Ms. Smith, seconded by Dr. Vos, to open the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON RUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 8:05
P.M.
Mr. Hickok stated the variance request is to reduce the sign
setback from 10 feet from the property line to 0 feet. The
property is the former Meadow Run apartment complex. Between 1970
and 1972, three buildings were constructed, along with a
recreational complex and a swimming pool. Along with the
construction of that complex was an entry gate feature which
includes a large bollard with a stone face on either side of the
entry. On the island between the entry and exit lanes, there is
another monument with stone face, and the sign for the complex was
on that entry gate. The petitioner wishes to take out the center
monument and build a new 24 square foot sign perpendicular to the
roadway with a zero foot setback. The requirements in the R-3,
General Multiple Family Dwelling, require a 10 -foot setback. Staff
reviewed the request based on the following criteria:
A. That there are exceptional or extraordinary circumstances
applicable to the property or to the intended use that do not
apply generally to other property in the same vicinity and
district.
Staff reviewed the site and feels that, for the most part, there
are many other examples of similar complexes that have similar
conditions and have been able to construct a sign within the 10 -
foot setback dimension. As noted in the staff report, Georgetown
Apartments were granted a variance to less than 10 feet due to
conditions on site. The variance was granted to approximately 5 or
6 feet from the property line. There are no exceptional or
extraordinary circumstances applicable to the subject parcel.
B. That the variance is necessary for the preservation and
enjoyment of a substantial property right possessed by other
property in the same vicinity and district, but which is
denied the property in question.
Staff feels this is not a unique situation and that other complexes
with similar circumstances have been able to live with the 10 foot
setback dimension.
C. That the strict application of the Chapter would constitute an
unnecessary hardship.
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Staff after review feel denial would not constitute a hardship and
the petitioner could according to some alternatives install the
sign according to code.
D. That the granting of the variance would not be materially
detrimental to the public health, safety, or general welfare,
or detrimental to the property in the vicinity or district in
which the property is located.
The purpose of the sign code is to limit the number, size and
location of sign in order to reduce visual clutter. Staff feel
that granting this variance would be contrary to the intent of the
code.
Mr. Hickok stated the petitioner has submitted a letter, included
with the staff report, which states they feel there are
circumstances on the site to make the variance necessary,
including: 1) to install the entrance monument to make it visible
to oncoming traffic prior to the point of turning; 2) there is not
sufficient property to install the sign so it is visible - the sign
needs to be perpendicular to traffic and double faced; 3) to remove
the existing stone monument structure from the entrance island; 4)
the current setback of 10 feet would place part of the sign in the
midst of a two way drive through; 5) to increase the center island
curb into the two way drive area would interrupt traffic flow and
add significant cost; and 6) to grant the variance would be of no
harm, materially or generally to the public or the property.
Mr. Hickok stated staff has indicated there are alternatives. One
alternative is to reduce the size of the two-way drive aisle to 25
feet and move the center island curb back which would require
reconstructing the radius on the back side. Doing so would leave
19.5 feet from the curb of the radius to the property line. Staff
feels there would be adequate space in that area to construct a
sign. The petitioner feels this may cause additional problems due
to traffic. There are parallel parking stalls along the edge of
the parking lot. The petitioner could add a radius to the entry
sides the same distance and delineate these parallel parking
stalls.
Mr. Hickok stated the petitioner would prefer to keep the sign
perpendicular to the roadway to make it visible to those who travel
along East River Road. Staff feels the complex itself does its own
advertising and there is a plan to match the color scheme on the
building with the sign package. Another alternative might be to
place the sign parallel with the road way which would allow to see
the sign at the complex.
Mr. Hickok stated, in the past, the Commission has approved a sign
variance to less than 10 feet. Staff feels the petitioner has not
met the four criteria for granting a variance. Staff has no
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recommendation at this time; however, the request is within
previously granted variance limitations.
Ms. Smith asked where the property lines are located.
Mr. Hickok stated the property lines are where the bollards are
current located. The center island extends beyond the property
line.
Dr. Vos asked if the monument removal would provide better site
lines when going down East River Road.
Mr. Hickok stated staff discussed this with the petitioner. He
thought there is a toss up between this location and pulling the
sign back. He felt pulling the sign back may actually increase the
sight lines.
Ms. Orensten, Imaginality, stated staff comments indicate the
purpose served is to control visual pollution and eliminate the
potential for signs which conflict with driver visibility. As they
look at the complex, they don't see the sign until right at the
complex. There is then a right turn into the complex and another
immediate right turn to the parking lot. They feel an attractively
designed sign will enhance and beautify the entrance to the complex
and not be considered visual pollution. The proposed sign area is
also planned to make sense with the landscaping. The area is
extensively landscaped. The current sign or even a new sign that
is not perpendicular could be considered a hazard because it is not
visible until just before the turn. They are proposing a sign
which is visible 200 feet before the entrance at 0 foot setback.
If the sign is at the 10 foot setback, they feel the distance where
it would be viewed would be reduced both for those coming in but
reduce visibility for those inside the complex.
Ms. Orensten stated the purpose of the sign code is to limit the
number, size and locations of the sign in order to reduce visual
pollution. They disagree in that they are not asking for
additional signs or a larger sign. The location back from the curb
makes a great deal of impact on the flow of traffic within the
complex. Bringing the curb out within the complex would be
additional cost which is the hardship. This also affects snow
storage and removal. They are upgrading the entire complex part of
which is to remove the monument in the island, removing the dark
lava rock from the bollards and re -stuccoing them, and upgrading
the landscaping.
Ms. Orensten showed photos of other complexes and their signs. The
proposed sign for this complex is a very tasteful sign to enhance
the complex. She showed a rendition of the proposed sign at the
current setback within the existing structure and showed another
version of the same sign with a pedestal. Their concern with an
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extended curb in the island is that the driving lanes would be
reduced and then the turn would be to tight.
Dr. Vos asked Ms. Orensten her reaction to the alternative setback
nearer the building.
Ms. Orensten stated she thought this would do more harm than good.
There would then be no visibility before getting to the complex.
East River Road is a busy street and, if someone not familiar with
area and looking for the complex, they often almost drive past and
then slow suddenly to make the turn. The proposed plan actually
decreases the number of signs.
Ms. Smith asked if she had gotten police records to see if there
were traffic problems in that area.
Ms. Orensten stated she understood from property management that it
is tough traffic area so they wanted to get the police reports to
have some statistics. They have talked to them to find out what
the problems are in that area. They have not received the police
reports at this time.
Mr. Kuechle asked if they had considered turning the sign 90
degrees.
Ms. Orensten stated by making the sign parallel to the street
becomes the issue of visibility to the oncoming traffic who is
being addressed.
Mr. Kuechle asked if the addresses are given by street or by the
complex name.
Ms. Orensten stated it would normally given by the street.
Mr. Levine, KMS Management/Meadow Run, stated the signage issue is
part of a total upgrade. They acquired the property in May. This
was the only property in the City which did not have emergency
lighting which they have now installed. The property had five
underground storage tanks of which three were leaking. This has
all been corrected. All buildings will have new roofs. The indoor
pool is being redone and an outdoor pool added to the property.
They are doing a tremendous amount of cosmetics. As owners, they
feel what they are asking for is reasonable and ties in with the
whole upgrade. An interesting thing about the property is that,
inasmuch as the property line is really at the sign, it appears to
be at or near the roadway because of the location of the
landscaping. Their intent is to take down the monument, remove the
lava rock face and re -stucco so what is left is a sign that appears
to have a setback. The other signs will be removed so there will
be one attractive sign. The alternative of extending back the
island is a hardship in that it creates traffic problems as well as
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additional expense. They felt the money would be better spent on
safety concerns. What they are proposing will improve the overall
entry and the property in general.
Ms. Smith asked what they would do if the variance were denied.
Mr. Levine stated felt the alternative would be to put a sign
parallel to the street. The existing monument that is there is now
on the property line as are the monuments to the side.
Ms. Orensten stated, if they needed to get permission to do that,
how would they get the same 10 foot setback given the structures
that are existing. The existing structures are already on the
property line. They could put a sign on that wall of the sign in
the center island but it would not enhance the project.
Mr. Kuechle asked if the monument in the center island would be
removed.
Ms. Orensten stated yes.
Mr. Levine stated he saw the survey when he acquired the property.
They had thought of keeping the middle monument and bring a sign
out over the planter so that the front post would be at the planter
which is over the property line. The side monument also encroaches
on the property line. The only way to install a sign and keep it
behind the property line is to take down the monument which will
clean up the area and make it more pleasant. There are also
parking problems and they need all the spaces they can get.
Ms. Smith asked, with the existing monument already encroaching, if
they do anything to the signs, do they need to make the request to
change a sign.
Mr. Hickok stated yes. The changing is asking for a new sign
structure. It could be argued that these are signs and not entry
gates. Removing the signs at the gate would bring us to a new
permit situation and another variance.
Mr. Levine stated the Meadow Run sign is in the ground in front of
that wall. He has a hard time believing that cosmetically
resurfacing an existing wall has anything to do with changing the
structure.
Ms. McPherson stated this technically should not be in the public
right-of-way; however, it is not a structure that they can attach
a building requirement to. It is rather an aesthetic enhancement
which does not fall under the setback requirements. Once you put
signage on it, however, that will trigger a variance.
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Ms. Smith asked how far from the property line the center structure
was located.
Mr. Hickok stated this was approximately 2 feet from the property
line.
Dr. Vos asked if the County had any plans to widen East River Road.
Ms. McPherson stated the County has not yet improved this section.
She was not sure where this is as far as the County improvement
plans are concerned. She thought the County had adequate right-of-
way to do their work. If the County moved the curb line, the sign
would be closer to the right-of-way.
Mr. Brandt, 190 Craigbrook Way, stated he did not agree with the
request to put a sign on the property line. There is no
obstruction in front of the apartment building going north or
south. Setting the sign 10 feet back should be no reason a person
could not see that when driving by. If someone cannot see that
sign driving by at 10 feet, they ought not to be driving.
Visibility should have nothing to do with it. There is no
obstruction. You can see that sign for a long way going either
north or south. This is a residential area. Some of the signs
shown earlier were not in residential areas. A 24 square foot sign
at 10 feet is adequate. They have enough signs there now and he
did not think they needed any more.
Ms. Smith stated she drove by the complex and did not see the sign.
When going by during rush hour, traffic moves quickly and it is
difficult to see. She asked Mr. Brandt if he was aware of any
accidents or traffic problems in that area because people did not
see the signs.
Mr. Brandt stated he had never seen an accident on that corner.
Ms. Olek, KMS Management/Meadow Run, stated the way the curb is now
is very tight and, when traffic is entering, they must stop for
traffic now. Moving in the curb would make it more of a problem.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Smith, to close the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:53
P.M.
Dr. Vos stated he drove into the complex. He would not be in favor
of moving that curb any closer in. You have to look to the left to
see anyone coming in that lane if turning to the north. Moving
that curb back would not be advantageous. The monument being taken
out should enhance the area. He vote in favor of having the sign
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 23, 1994 PAGE 16
placed in the island. He was convinced this was as good as any
place. He would vote in favor.
Ms. Smith stated, when she came to the meeting, she was inclined to
vote against the request. But as she looks at the alternatives,
her sense is that for the public safety the 0 foot setback would be
advantageous. It would clean up that area and give the visibility
the sign needs to turn into there. Traffic does move quickly on
East River Road. The sooner someone can see the sign, the safer it
would be.
Mr. Kuechle concurred. Of all the possibilities that are there,
moving the curb back would have a negative impact. He can see
moving the monument out and putting the sign there. He would like
to see the sign self supporting rather than between the posts.
That would narrow the sign down somewhat and perhaps bring it in
not quite to the lot line.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Smith, to approve variance
request, VAR #94-21, by Imaginality Inc. for Meadow Run Apartments
to reduce the setback of a sign from the property line from 10 feet
to 0 feet to allow construction of a new sign on Lot 3, Block 1,
Meadow Run First Addition, the same being 7855 East River Road.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the request would be reviewed by the City
Council for final approval on September 6.
5. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REOUEST. VAR 494-
22, BY GARY LARSON:
Pursuant to Section 205. 07. 01.B.(4).(a) of the Fridley City
Code, to increase the allowable square fo ge of a first
accessory structure from 1,000 square f t to 1,220 square
feet, and
Pursuant to Section 205.07.03.0 6f the Fridley City Code, to
increase the maximum lot cov age from 25% to 26.8%, in order
to allow the construction f an attached garage addition on
Lot 3, Block 3, Riverv' Park Addition, the same being 7121
Riverwood Drive N.E.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, econded by Ms. Smith, to open the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICEZVOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE -CHAIRPERSON KUECHLE
DECLARED THi-'MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 8:57
P.M.
•
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
APPEALS COMMISSION
•
Notice is hereby given that the Appeals Commission of the City of
Fridley will conduct a Public Hearing at the Fridley Municipal
Center at 6431 University Avenue N.E. on Tuesday, August 23,
1994, at 7:30 p.m. for the purpose of:
Consideration of variance request, VAR #94-
21, by Imaginality Inc. for Meadow Run
Apartments, pursuant to Section 214.09.O1.0
of the Fridley Sign Code, to reduce the
setback of a sign from the property line from
10 feet to 0 feet to allow construction of a
new sign on Lot 3, Block 1, Meadow Run First
Addition, the same being 7855 East River
Road.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given the
opportunity at the above stated time and place.
DIANE SAVAGE
CHAIRPERSON
APPEALS COMMISSION
Any questions related to this item may be referred to the Fridley
Community Development Department, 571-3450.
Hearing impaired persons planning to attend who need an
interpreter or other persons with disabilities who require
auxiliary aids should contact Roberta Collins at 572-3500 no
later than August 16, 1994.
VAR #04-21
Imaginality Inc.
(Meadow Run Apartments)
Imaginality Inc.
6182 Highway 55
Golden Valley, MN 55422
Meadow Run Apartments
Building Manager
7825 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Meadow Run Apartments
Building Manager
7895 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Bruce Miller
7872 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Walter Klus
7899 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Watkins Brothers
P.O. Box 87
Sauk Rapids, MN 56379
Current Resident
7869 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
.Mailing List
Meadow Run Apartments
7855 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Meadow Run Apartments
Building Manager
7845 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Park Construction Co.
7900 Beech Street NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Barry Blower Company
99 - 77th Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
David Fuerstenberg
7701 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
7865 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
7861 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident Jeffrey Jones/Curr. Res.
7857 Firwood Way NE 7851 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Scott Cammeron/Curr. Res. David Parke/Curr. Res.
7843 Firwood Way NE 7847 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
•Mailed: 8/9/94
Meadow Run Apartments
Building Manager
7805 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Meadow Run Apartments
Building Manager
7875 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard Peterson
7939 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
River Pointe Ltd. Part.
c/o KMS Management Inc.
5801 Cedar Lake Road
Minneapolis, MN 55416
David Fuerstenberg
1021 E Moore Lake Dr NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Michael Betz
2712 Terrace Drive
Burnsville, MN 55337
Roger Carey
10270 Mississippi Blvd
Coon Rapids, MN 55433
Current Resident
7855 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Mark Jedlenski/Curr.Res
7833 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident Jonathan Soule Edward Willey
7837 Firwood Way NE .7838 Firwood Way NE •7830 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Douglas Lindquist
194 Pearson Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
176 Pearson Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Eldon Metaxas
175 Craigbrook Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Robert Skorczewski
170 Craigbrook Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
John Dunphy
155 Stonybrook Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Hickory Properties
881 Pandora Drive NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
7855 Hickory Street NE
Fridley, MN 55432
David Larson
4521 Culver Road
Golden Valley, MN 55442
Michael Klismith
7905 East River Rd NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Eugene Hebzynski
184 Pearson Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
174 Pearson Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Donald Giorgio
185 Craigbrook Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Leonard Brandt
190 Craigbrook Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Charles Martin
133 Stonybrook Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
7849 Hickory Street NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Victor Daml
9412 Flintwood
Coon Rapids, MN 55433
Dennis Prokop
165 Craigbrook Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
William Dombrowsky
160 Craigbrook Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
John Anderson
165 Stonybrook Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
7851 Hickory Street NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
7853 Hickory Street NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Micro Matic1� Current Resident
7871 Hickory Street NE 7831 Hickory Street NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident 'Current Resident
7890 Hickory Street NE 5,5 - 77th Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident William Walus
231 - 79th Way NE 221 - 79th Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Curreht Resident
211 - 79th Way NE
D-62 Properties
10112010 Woodhill Lane
Lawrence Davis
1210 Longfellow St. NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Blaine, MN 55434
Fridley, MN 55432
Gary Stelton
John Jarvi
Michael Sutton
230 Longfellow St. NE
240 Longfellow St. NE
195 - 79th Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
Thomas Gavic
Michael Lund
181 - 79th Way NE
2540 - 131st Avenue NW
161 - 79th Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Coon Rapids, MN 55433
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
Janet Chisholm
Richard Mottl
260 Longfellow St NE
151 - 79th Way NE
141 - 79th Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley, MN 55432
Lee Wyandt Lynn Canfield Donald Lewis
139 - 79th Way NE 131 - 79th Way NE 134 Longfellow St NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
J. Wodziak/J. Knealing Leonard Benser Susan Blilie
144 Longfellow St NE 154 Longfellow St NE 166 Longfellow St NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Troy Tjepkes Current Resident Jean Oakvik
176 Longfellow St NE 190 Longfellow St NE 196 Longfellow St NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
F. Kevin McGinnity Gerald Harris Gina Damiani
124 Longfellow St NE 121 - 79th Way NE 260 Longfellow St NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
John Zielinski Current Resident V. Froneyberger
7889 Firwood Way NE 7891 Firwood Way NE 7885 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident Cynthia Czichary Current Resident
7883 Firwood Way NE 7879 Firwood Way NE 7881 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Jahn krvanitis David Kaliher Neil Hyatt
7875 Firwood Way NE 107866 Firwood Way NE •7858 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
Cynthia Robb
7852 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Appeals Comm. Chair
Lee Grant
7844 Firwood Way NE
Fridley, MN 55432
City Council Members
CITYOF CITY OF FRIDLEY
FRIDLEY COMMISSION APPLICATION REVIEW
File Number File Date Meeting Date
43 8/8/94 8/23/94
File Description: VAR #94-21 by Imaginality for River Pointe Limited (Meadow Run),
to reduce the setback of a sign from the property line from 10 feet to 0 feet,
7855 East River Road N.E.
Complete Review Checklist; Return to The Community Development Department
*** Comments ***
Barbara Dacy
Scott Hickok
Michele McPherson
Scott Erickson
John Flora
John Palacio
Clyde Moravetz
Leon Madsen
Dave Sallman
Dick Larson
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August 5, 1994
Scott Hickok
City of Fridley
6431 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Dear Scott,
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The following is to go with our sign variance application to briefly
answer the questions posed in the appeals process section. At the time
of the meeting we will present pictures and further details.
REQUEST: To have a variance in order to place sign
within the 10' setback, We request a 0' setback.
1. We want to install our entrance monument sign in a position
that would make it visible to oncoming traffic from East River
Road, prior to the point of turning.
2. There is not sufficient property on which to install the sign in
such a manner so that the sign could be visible - the sign needs
to be perpendicular to traffic and double faced.
3. We intend to remove the existing stone monument structure
from the current entrance island in order to make room for the
proposed sign.
4. With the current regulation of a 10' setback, one end of our
sign would be in the midst of a two way drive through. This
would be hazardous and disrupt traffic.
5. We do not believe that increasing the center island curb area
into the two way drive would be reasonable because it would not
be even with the rest of the drive - it would protrude into a critical
area. Turning radius for large trucks (which people use to move)
and snow plowing becomes very difficult. We are concerned that
this may be hazardous to drivers and the sign is more liable to be
damaged. In addition there would be a significant additional cost
in the new island and maintenance thereof.
6. Granting this variance would be of no harm, materially or gen-
erally to the public or the property. This is made to enhance the
beauty of the property, the neighborhood and reduce the opportu-
nity for accidents, due to sudden stops and turns.
SinGer�ly,
Myrna rensten
President
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