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SP75-14� . ' . • CITY OF FqIDLEY� SUHJECT � 643'I UtVIVERSITY AVE. NE. SPECIAL USE PERMIT FRIDLEY� MN. 65438 (612).57'1-3450 . SP � ,�� ADDRESS �� -�-: �--�- DATE PLANNING CO(�It'IISSION: P.H. DATE �� APPROVED � DISAPPROVED ^ DATE ��/D,�Z� N� CITY COUNCIL: P.H. REQ'D �I��/�� DATE� >>I17�� NO ��3 CITY COUNCIL: APPROVED DISAPPROVED DATE ��/?/�y NO . w�.n•.w � . ST'""' . Councilnan Breider said he would clarify his motion to read: 1. F:hen this lot was ceveloped, the advertising sigr, located on it will be re- � � i: moved. tliis o�e, he said, I agree to. I think it is standard throughout. • . 2. When this advertisi�;g si�n is destroyed or damaged by an act of nature, vand4lism, or other rcans, this si4n cannet be rei�aired or rebuilt and will ' have to be removed. This Item I r,ould like to have removed. NA ;EIPT NO 3. This Special Use Permit subject to vearly review. This is standa��d. I would ST go along ►:itl-� Council;rcman Ku��:�ski to cliange review to inspect. 4. This biilhoa�-d be maintained in yood quality condition. LE 5. 7r�is 5illboard ue �cr.,oved on or b;:foi-e the expiration of the lease on (date). PF Counciirt;an (3�•cider •��pl�intd that this iterr, varies ihrouclhout. Some cases in tive years and oiiu�� cases in 9/%7 or whaicver. lde could change th�s to reud: Special Use fermit to coincide with the term of the present lease. � A( , TYPE OF USE AND Councilinan Fitzpatrir.i s,id that I�e could sup��urt. that motiun exceat he has I� trou'�lc with thr_ stS�ulation that says �Lhcn tl:e sian is dc�tro)�^d in a zoninq . r,�hich is a nonconforming use - r:e�have th�t stipulation on every:hing, not only si�ns. Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? _.yes no. What was requested and when? The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of property within 300 feet must be attached to this application. (b) This application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation given why this is not the _ case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned. A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the following: 1. North direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot. 3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks. 4. Street names. 5. Locatian and use of adjacent existing buildings (within �300 feet). � • The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated in this application are true and correct. DATE SIGNATURE APPLICANT ADDRESS TELEPHONE NO ' _ . _______.. __.______._�.._.._. ._..._ ._..�..� . .�_ 53 NAEGELE OUTDOOR ADVERTISING COMPANY OF THE TWIN CITIES, INC. 1700 WEST 78TH STREET, MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55423/612-866-3381 July 22nd, 1975 Kunz O i I Company P.O. Box 24091 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55424 Gentlemen: This letter is to inform you that Naegele Outdoor Advertising Company of the Twin Cities,lnc. is applying for a new special use permit for the advertising structure located on your property at 7357 East R.R., Fridley. The City of Fridley requires that you are aware of our application. By signing this letter you are also acknowledging that a valid lease for the advertising structure on your property is held by our company. Please sign in the space below and return as soon as possible. A stamped, addressed envelope is enclosed. Sincerely, � � � . � � � Kraig A.Lof st Associate Director Community Relations Department KAL:bap Enclosure _ �� .t ' �.� �.� i S' nature Date ��. 1.��'�'lal� • �'' R��\REc��vEa ,��; �_..; ;`�; Jll!_. 2�: 1�75 � � "'� KUNZ OIL CO3 t ,s� . �;;� ,� � ., ,,�.j-_ -�;�`; � �� — .� � .Z�.57 x�S�aR�--�-`��-_.�F'`Q _��'�e'''��i%► �i'� ..____�G� 7 5—��Lease J��Sfi- � a�r,,,��t.i- �_.._. ,.- .�_____.._..`�._.__� � r .7^ +� �+ fi ; �� jq tki iL k �� .�+ E k��:�c✓� ��. � '� nr 7r� roY OP THGT. T:liNS� I�DVF;RTIS1"IJG SIG.T1 �,,+-%� ° 1) � � 'j—1 1 l. ; ��,-------� cou�u++�TY oE��c�>atHT or�. SPFCIt'�L LiSE PI:Fi��1IT APPI,ICATIOi�t � � i PF;OTECTiV� L4�'rCTlO"i C`i�'T. � . 1 � � - � ,{� �'.,__1 i l.�ii iiA�i. ��iDi.t7 u��:,:c� L....__. � .. �..�__J`�� .1 4>�3-Gso-aatSQ t�at'rt 3tiV. 7.CiE Pd"� Cff AYPFC'JV�U Gf _.__�_- �-- �_:__.___� �,�,�-F,�._�_�.�_. � �i_ ?��c�a Q�aii��- 11ddr_css Phone NAEGEI..E OUTDOQR AQVERTISI IJG CO. �700 West 78th StrLu= h1�_Is. 866--33�1 �,___�_.____ �. .�___._.r._.�_ ____--- - --._______ r rec.tor A.Td.res:a • P�hor.e � N�EGELE OU�_�00_R ADVERTI�(NG CG. _____170� �ti'est 7$th St�r�et, M� Is. 8GG-33�1 Legal Lot Pdo. ~ 1�lor.k No. � Tract or Addition �� n�sC. 18 � �evised a�ditors sub. �77 Oc�Tner of Property _._ w� �ddr.ess __�.�.._ _____._.� Gulf Oil Com�cny 27t� N°ieiro Sc{uare, St. Paul, IV«I � _ L;:ase Date '� k.enecaai Date F�pi_ra.tion D�.te �"�A �� 10-22�60 ' 1Ow22-73 1U�22--%4 Year I3uii t � Cost/Value Dir;2ens�or.s: __.r��. __ .__.�._._— - - _�_. __ � I°52 rebuilt 'h� � $1,5��.00 I.er�gt}i: 2�� 47idt_h, y?_'_____., Sn�. 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(' .�,�- � . � �, . . .f f � I _..�.!_ j� �__ _. ._._.�� -- 4 _� ; ,- „ , � � . � - _ ,. ; J . l �',., - �` _.______. _ , . � .. . � � , . .: f y I . . a ,.l l�_ i , ; ,- I . ,1 '•,„ � t � f`,� j ; ' ' '1--. , � . ; , , u � - i i � � � �� ,�� I i OFFICTAL NOTICE � CITY OF FRIDLEY PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE I PLANNING COMMISSION . I TO WHOM IT �1AY CONCERN: � Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, August 6, 1975 at 7:30 P.M. to consider the following matter: A request for a Special Use Permit, SP #75-14, by Naegele Outdoor Advertising Company, to continue the use of a 25 foot by 12 foot billboard located on Lot 18, Revised Auditor's Subdivision No. 77, ' per Fridley City Code, Section 21�.042, all lying in the North Half of Section 10, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, County of Anoka, Minnesota. Generally located at 7357 East River Road N.E. Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter may be heard at this meeting. � RICHARO H. HARRIS � CHAIRMAN PLANNING COMMISSION Publish: July 23, 1975 - July 30, 1975 � � � � � 13 OFFICIAL �07ICE CI"i'Y OF FRIDLEY PUBLIC HEARING � � BEFORE THE " CITY COUNCIL � TO W�#OM IT� MAY CONCERN: Notice is hereby given that there wili be a Public Hearing of the City Council of the City of Fridley in the City Ha�l at 6431 University Avenue Northeasi; on ��londay, Nov�mber 10, 1575 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. to consider the following matter: A request for a Special Use Fermit, SP #75-14, by Naegele Gutdoor Advertising Company, to continue � the use of a 25 foot by i2 foot bil �board, locat�d on Lot �8, Revised Aud�tor's Su6div�sion No. 77, per Fridley City Code, Section 214.042, all lying � in the Nori:h Half of S�ction 10, 7-30, R-24, City of Fridley, County of Anoka, Minnesota. Generally located at 7357 East River Road N.E. f�nyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter may , be heard at this meeting. WILLIAM J. NEE . �1AYOR Publish: Uctober 22, 1975 October 29, 1975 0 _�:�:-�. .. 51 Planning Commission 7-22-75 MAILING LIST ,� SP #75-14 NAEGELE OUTDOOR ADV. C0. ��-r� %r -- �z�- 75 7357 East River Road Gulf Oil Corporation P.O. Box 1589 Tulsa, Ok 74102 Mr. & Mrs. John Capretz 7335 East River Road Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Raymond Priem 7356 East River Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Enrooth 7340 East River Road Fridley, Mn 55432 Naeg�le Outdoor Advertising Company 1700 West 78th Minneapolis Mn _ , . �. � ; ,�,.� ; ,- } �-. :� ,, � _�= 2t ��,9rt / �.� t�,� . • • '"Tf� ��4�.n�� * � . . 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I (Official Publication) OFFICIAL NOTICE CITY OF FRIDLEY PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE ' PLANNING COMMISSION TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday,August 6,1975 at 7:30 p.m.to consider the following mat- ter: A request for a Special Use Permit,SP No.75-14,by Naegele ' Outdoor Advertising Company, to continue the use of a 25 foot by 12 foot billboard located on Lot 18, Revised Auditor's Subdivi- sion No. 77, per Fridley City Code,Section 214.042,all lying in the North Half of Section 10, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, Coun[y of Anoka,Minnesota. Generally located at 7357 East River Road N.E. Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter may be heard at this meeting. RICHARD H.HARRIS Chairman Planning Commission (July 23&30,1975)—SB6 (OFF'ICIAL NOTICE) CPPY OF FRIDLEY PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TO WHOM Pf MAY CONCERN: Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Aearing of the City Council of the City of Fnd1eY in the City Hall at 6431 Umversrty Avenue Northeast on Monday,November 10, 1975 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 p.m. to consider the following mat- ter. ' A request for a Special Use Per- mit,SP#7514,by Naegele Out- door Advertising Company, to continue the use of a 25 fooYby 12 foot billboard,located on Lot 18, Revised Auditor's SubdiC�e No. 79, per Fridley City Section 214.042, all lying m the � North Half of Section 10, T-30, H-24,City of Fridley, County of Anoka,Minnesota. Generally located at 7357 East River Road N.E. Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter may be heard at this meefiWILLIAM J.NEE Mayor (Oct.22&29,1975)—SBS - , � . . i r �Plann�in� Commission (�Seeti`ncZ- Aia�u`;t G, 19/5 Page 1£3 ' ; .� �_ _ �_._ — , , • 1�.'OTION bc� Pavid ll��rris, sccoz�dcd by nriy�zns, that t �e P1ann.i��g Cornmi.ssion r.ecomrilcnd ' to Counci.t. apprnv<�1 of tlle v�:�cai,�on r•equc,si:, ;��iV �l'7� t7, by 12o1�ert llil�z•ichs, to vac�.it:e � � t-he 10 foot .dra.inaqe �ind util.i 1-1� eascment oJ. 1� _� 5 aild 6, 731ocJc 1, Broolcviera Terr.ace . 2nd Tidcl.i t_ion, thc� s��n� > .�einy 9�t.1. �.ir�d 1001 � .c�^ Crc�r_�1; T�r.r_ace N.i;. , Uec�use i�here s�e�ns L-o be i�o con.fl.ict raif:h�: e �djoi.n.�nq�,.� pr�rty ��nd we 1i<zvc tl�e concurrence of thc � r_' it�_ com �<.�nies and tl�e �?z� 'oi.n.in 'nei 1�1�or. the Cit� a.Z1o[a tlie ��1cr_oachmcn� into u i1 _J I A 9 � � � the ear;emc�lii: wl�.i_le tlie vacatior�, �quest carzs beinq proce:>scd. Ul�on a voice vot-�, a11 ' votiny a�e, the mot.ion cat,r� ' unani _ s_Z�. ' ' Chai rman ilarri s �; �"d tile eti ti oner that �i . •� ul d be u to tl��e A �eal s Commi ss i on p p P pl to act. on �:he, variar�� request to have thc st��ucture �� , e feet from �he lot: line , al thoucal� the P1 a�'��ng Comm�i ss�i oi� fel i; �;ha't; t_I�i s �•aoul d not e a probl em because o�F . the locati o» oi the structure on tl��e nex� l 01;. • 7, PU[�LIC HE/IRIh;G: REQUEST FCR A SI�FCI(,L USl_ PERf�'iI��, .SP ��75-08, 13Y �AEGELE OUTDOOR. ADUI_f;Tl:SI��COi•ii'l'�ivY: To allo�-� �;he co��tinua.�;ion of an exis'cing bil lboard on .Lot � 7, L' lock I , Ri��er��iet�J H�iyhts , per Fr�idley City Code, Section 214.042,. ��he satre beiny &150. �ast Ri��er Road. ' , �Mr. Davi d Narr�i s sa�i d h� co�!1 dn '�c see openi ng th2 Publ i c Heari ng or� each �of these � requests , even if �they were goi��y to be considered indi�viclually. He thought all the � requests for fdaegele could be operied at once. 1�he oi:l�er member•s agreed. ' . . i 8. PL(3LIC I-IF�IRI�G: REQU�ST F01� /� SPECl/�,1.. USE PER��iIT, SP ,r75-0�5 I�Y �d�tEGFI_E OUTGOOR /`,DV�PT1SIivG Cui�ii-�n�,I�l' To alloF�r tf�ie contin�a-(;ion�o� an existiriy billboarc� on i;l�e t�esterly 500 feet or Lot 1 �, Auditor's SuL�division f�o. 89, pei� Fridley City Code ! Secti on 214.0�`f2, the same bei rg 72C�1 Hi ght��ay #}G5 f�.E. � � . { 9. PUBLIC NFARIf;G: REQUEST f=�R A SPECII`,L USE PER��1IT, SP #,`75-10, QY NAEGE:LE OUTDGOR . AUVERTISI(;G COf�;PP,ivY: To allo��r i;f�e contii�uation of an exisl�ing billboard be�;t•;een • Lots 2O ai�d 21 , �lock 4, H,�de Park Addition, per Fridley City Code, Section 214.042, � the same being 6029 Universi�y Av�nue N.E. � � • . � 10. , PU�LIC HEARINC: RFQUEST fOR A SPECIAL USE P�Rf�IIT, SP �;75-11 , f3Y N/�EGELE OUTDODR ADULRTISING CUi�;l�ri�;Y: To allow the. continuation oi- an exisi�ing bil lbcard on Lot 2, � F,uditor's Subdivision No. 7�, per Fridley City Code, Section 214.042, �he same ; � being 52 - I . G94. . . � 11 . PU[3l_IC HEARIfr'G: RF UEST F02 A SPECl/1L USE P�RP1IT, SP #75-12, QY P;AEGEI_F OUTDOOR � —g----- • RDI�E�RTISIfVG COP��i�!tNY: To al �low �;he conf.iiivation o� an exist�ir�g �billboard on Lot 2, � �ud='i�Lo►�' s Subdi vi si on No. 7£3; per Fri dl ey Ci ty Code, Secti on 204 .042, the same ' , � being 93 - I.G94. � 12. PUGLIC HF/1RING: REQUEST FOR"R SF'ECl/1L USE PER1�tIT, SP �75-13 , E3Y NAEGELL � OUTDOOR ADVLI:TISi(�!u CUh`i1'ANY: To permi�tl�e cori�;inuation of an existi��q bi1lUoard f � located on Parcel 30U0, in i;he NW .Q:�arter of the (dW Quarter, except the North � 1G.6 Acres, of Section 2, T-30, R-24 , per Fridl�y City Code, �ection 214.942, • � the same being 8410 University Avenue N.E. � 13. PU[3L�IC }-IE/�R1NG: {ZC(�UEST F�R A SPECl/1L USE PERI��IT SP ��75-14 Y NAEGEI_C OU7DOOR • ADUERTISI�NG CUf�1('�NY: l�o pern�it i:he continuaticn o � �c:a.s�i>�' billboar�ci on Lot 1B, � Rev.ised Autlitor's Subdivision No. 77, per Fridley Cii:y Code, Section 214.042, the f same bring 7357 'East River Road N._E. � ' � .�.,,< . . . , ..�..; . Plann�inc�Cornmission� 1�leetinc - lluc�ust G,__1975 �'��e » ' ' � __._._.._ _ ___ , 14. PUf31.IC I�(�/1RT��: RE UEST FOR l� SPFCIl1L USE Pf�R��IT, SP �175_15, BY NAf-_�F=LE OUTDOOR - -�—------------ - — -- - — � " • /1UVEfZ1_1SIf�!G t,UI°il'(1iJY: ��o {�ermi�: �.iie continu��:t�.ion of an ex�isting billboard on Locs .� 1-3; Llock �), �Ilami�l�tori `s /�ddition �;o Mcchanicsville, per Fridley City Code, �'i � � � Seci;ion 214.042, the same �einy 545?_ 7th Street N.C. i ;� 15. PUQL_IC IIEIIRI��!G: RFQUEST FOR A SPCCIII!_ USE PCfZ(�iIT, SP �i75_16_ I�Y NI�CGELE OUTDOOR ! • �1DV[:RTISI(�U LOf`1P/1NY: l o j�e�rini�; .�:lie conti nua ti�n vf an ex i s L�i ng b�i l l board on Lot 4, ', Audit�r' s Siabdivision No. 155, per Fridley Ci�;y Code; Sec�ion 214.0�2, the same ;I be�ii�g 5501 l�;h Street ��.f_. , ;� +' 1•10T.Z"On� b� Scoti-, second��d by Davicl Il��r.r_is, that t1�e Planninq Comm_ission open � the Pcrb.l._ic Ile�.r_ i_nys on tl.c .reguests for Specia] i7�� l�ern�its, SP �/75-Of3, SP �175-09, SP i,'75-.i0, SP 1i75-_Z.1. , AP {�75-1?, SP ��75--13, SF /175-.14, SP !#75-15, .SP �17_5-1G, by Nacge.l.e • Outdooz, ndvert.i.s.�ny Cvmp,�n�. Upon a voice vote, a1] voting a�e, C1ta.irman Harris . cieclared thc� Pi�bli.c Hearinc,J open ai: 9:59 P.M. , Chairman I-lat,ris declared a. 1� minute r.ecess a.t 10:00 P.M. and reconvenecl the Planning Con;miss�ioi� inee�ting a.t 10: 10 P.f��. � tir. C1 ark sai d �l;ha�: ��r, Steven Ol san. ��Jas presef�t, and he ��fas the staff ;erson ' ��rho has been t�;orking t��ith the sign compa��ies and �r,�,�n �:hey started the d�iscussion �. • on �he i nc�i vi dual s i ons, he ��doul d anst�rer for the stai=�. • . � ' I+1r. C�ark said the Specia1 Use Permi� requit�ernent for billboards s�;ar�ted �ack • in 1�69 ��;�1en the present sign ordinance �vas adopied. This orc�inance gave �Lhem until Septeir�ber 15; �1974 to ei t�iei� remove the bi 11 boarcis or get approval for a Special Use Per��lit. This has been discussed many �;imes , and the last discussion vr�s at a �f�u11 study session o�= i,he City Coui�c-i.l about six ��,�eeks aoo. At that time; �;{�e uisccassion c�;as ' wi th the si gn compar��' represc��;ati ves und the Ci ty Co��ci 1 .. A�t th�i s mee�;i ng they . � discussed the various G�rays tl�at the City could hai�dle these requests far Sp��ial Use Permi�:s . 41ith legal counsel present, it �vas decided that they Nrould not ha�� :o gei. var�iances for example, ��.here the sign did not meet the criter�ia as set fo��th in th� � ordinance, and they v,�ould no�; have to ask for r�zoniny, ii= the zoning as it exists , ' did not meet tl�e zoning requirements of the ordinance. It was felt that �:hey were � � l�gal 110t1-COIIfOrming uses , in the fact tl�at they exist �^�here �,hey are noGV located on land as it �vas no�-r zoned. He sa�d he d7dn't believe the Council stated ��rhat recornmendati on they. ��,�oul d mal:e on these Sp�ci al Use Permi ts , because that woul d have been out oi order, bu�: they did direct the sign companies to make applica�:ion for S{�ecial Use Perm�its. They also directed the City staff to discuss with the sign companies, the struct�;r.e of i;he signs , the locat�ion of the signs and v�rhicfi ones they tivoul d �,.��it to make requests for and whi ch ones they �voul d be wi 11 ing to take dow,n at this time. There were 17 billboards s�ix weeks ac�o. Since that time one has been . � taken do�,,�n by George Is In F��idley. There are two other billl�oarcis that have either . been ta�:en down or. �•�i11 be taken do��m. b�e have hcard from staff peopleai�d other � Commit�te� people, lots of pros arid cons on these biTlboards. These types of comments should ue continued in the ��rocessing of the Spec�ial Use Permits for billbaards. The . Planning Coi»mission has copies of a s�:aff report from �1r. Dick Sobiech, Public Wor.ks Di,rector, wh�ich includes comments on elim�inating some of the billboards , extending • son�e of them for a certain length of time, to be looked at and studied again. It also � men�:ions that if �;he land th�y stand on �vas developed, the billboards would .have to come down. Mr. Clark said it was his observation in�checking the location o.f the existing billbo��rds , that all but five or six of these billbolyds wi11 eventually come dowiz due to devclopment in t:l�e coming years. Tf i;he Special Use Permits are ap�roved wi�:h i:hi�s stipulal:ion', he thought that over a period of time, say ten years , there � would only be fTve bill.boards left 111 �hc City, and these .could be there ind�finitely. � lae said that Si:eve Olson was ready �:o discuss any pertinent �iata that the f'lanning . . ,. .__ � , --__ � Planning Comrniss�ion Meeting - August G, 1975 � Page 20 Comm�iss�ion i1»y wish to have. . . . M��, pi�igans sa�id �;hat on f�iarch 13, 1974 when the Planning Commission and Qoard � of A{�peals haci a jo�ini; mee�ting , ��de �ls� had in ai:tendanc� legal counsel . It 4��as . stated then Lf�ai: there rJas goin� to be a neeci for variances , alonc� with �;h� Special Use P��rm�ii;. Iie asked ��r. �Clarl; hora i:he Coui�cil determined that tl�ese requests for i Speci al Use �ermi ts no 1 onc�er needed vari ances and wondered i f thi s �r�as i npui; fi,om � � � the peti ti oners. h1r. C1�rk sai d he Udasn '1; at that meeti ng , but he ��aoul d guess tha� ��rnen thc Ci ty Rttorney made tl�at determi nati on , he must h�ive cV�ai�qed hi s mi nd; o�� received ne�� data, th�t altered h�is opinion. (�r. Driyans said the P�lann�ing Comi7�ission hud l�een going along for a1rnost a year and a ha1f ash�ing ho�,�� t�� v�ere go�ing to hancile � the rezonin� and var�iances Gvhen the recjuests fc�r Special Use Permits .�ame in, and f�ad l-;e knovrn i:hen , �cl7at a.11 tf�ey requ�i red �-�as a Spcci al Use P��t�i;�i t, we coul d have di sposc�d of these requesf.s last year. � . f�ir. C1 arl: sai d �hat a der_i s i on �voul d ►�ot have to be �rnade on the Speci al Use �Per~mi ts i a.t i.fai, meeL�irig. These billboards ar�e �lready existing, sa by con�:inuing these • + requests �Lhey ��oul d no�i t�e del ayi ng the pet.i'ci ai��er. Thi s �-roul d gi ve the Pl ar �i�i ng • Commi ss i on t�in�� i:o get mor� i npu t f��o�n s�af i �r 1 egal coui�sel , or Gvf�ate��er �;f�e P1 ann-i ng � • Com�lission ��aould want. � • � � � Mr. St�eve�� O1 son sai d th�i s mai,ter vaas pu� at hi s di�;posal some�im2 i n March, so � he �^!as no�: fam�iliar ��if�h prior discussions , but in ansGver to �ir. U��ic?��ns questiQn, � he said he hacl contacted the sign con�pariies by letter ana told them they had �o n��:f:e � appl i cati on i'or'Speci al Use f'crmi ts , and thi s� s�;ai"t�CI tflclll on the. vruy. He sa�i d tf�at � Fir. Craig Lofeuis�t, a representa:Live of �aegele Outdoor P,dver�;ising Company vras • apprehensi��e abou�: �he vGriances ancJ rezoning tl�a�c would be necessary befcrc � S�ecial � • Use Peril�it could be co��sidered, and he �-das the one who requested a meeting ��-:i:h �;he Ci ty Counci 1 . Nir. Ol so�� sai d i�e i�iUd attendcd thi s Counc�i 1 ��orE;s hop meeti ng , ,alonc? �ti�ith DicE: Sobiech and Virqil Herric{:, the City Attori�ey. He said thaz at that time, , . a de�`ermination �-aas made that the existing billl�oards ��tere a non-con�orming use and ; - l�,ould only need the Spec�ial Use Permit. � . . ' , Mr. Dr�i gans sai d thi s di d not ansv,�er .hi s questi on on �-rhat made the Ci ty Attorney � . change �hi s mi nd. � . Mr. Clark said he did not {:no��r why he changed his mind, but he knew i:hat a�torneys co�ild find several vdays to �interpret a law, and to be honest; if every bil1board had to have a variance and 7�eq«est rezof�ing on jus�; i:he proper�:y where. the billboard �-das located, this would have been ver,y unti-�ieldy. He said he was sure that the �Council ti�rould not want 1;o be pu�; in the �osition of rezoning small pieces of land for these � billboards , so .this could have been part of i;he determination. The attorney may h�ve , felt �:hat as 1ong as the billboa7�is already exist, and existed before the ordinance � ►cas passed, this woulci make them a l�gal non-conforming use, but they vdould s�:il.l have to apply for a Special Use Permit, because this was vah�t the Code sa-id. . . ' , Mr. Drigans said the point was that i;hese ��ere non-conforming, and we have just � gone through this with the Fronti��r Club, on how long a r�on-conforming use shoulcl be in existence, and the courts h�ve ruled ho��v long a non-conforming use could be in exi.st�nce. The courf;s have ruled thai: the intent of a non-conforming use should expire at some. point in time. P1r. Clark said !�e thauc�ht i;flat �,�as in Dick Sobiech's memo on the Fron�tier Club and ��as not a court decision. Mr�. Drigans said they did receive materi al from the Ci ty /lttorney, and �here ��rere rul i ngs by the couri;s not; to stri ng thi s � � out for �!� inde{�inite �eriod of i;ime. � � .�,,,,,..� . _�_ � ��` .-. Pl�nninc� Commis�ion Meetin�C--- /1��us1: G, 1975 -- Page 21 I�ir. C1 ark sa�i cl he probabl y agrecd vri th i;f�c -�t�ai;��ment, bui: I�e fel t the �vay 1�9r. Dr�igans was �ir�tcrprei;iny ii: v,�as not c��rr�ct. I�Jhen ,yau zone sometf�ing ci�i rferrn�t. � froin .wi�at i t ��ras bei ng used for i t ��as because y��u ftel Lhat over a reasonabl e periocl . . of t:iii�e, either I�y cas�ialty it �•dould disap{_�e�4r, or �the surrounding ureZ cl�anges its tise, i m�akin� the other �ise uni�e��s7b�le. f1e did not Lel �ieve fi.fiere ��as a law that said a , • � . leyal non-confor�ning u;e must comply �-�ith�in a spec�i ��ic Teng�h of �Lime. I{e said it ��as reasonable �;a assun�e th�t: soon�r or lai;er it �voulci, ju:t tf�raugh natur,al causes. � He sa�id thaL in our o��Jn Code, i�: says that: a leyal � non-confiorm�ir�y use cannot chany� its s�ize or its use, but: it can ex�ist as lony as it ��aas thei�e. � ' � 1�1r: David Ilarris said thai, he t�tas on the Counc�i1 at the tirne the S�ign Ord�inar�ce ' G�las passeci co��er�ii�g �:I�e p«bl �ir.. i�car�ing rec;uiremcnts for f;his ot�dinance. /1t that; time the Subcotnmi ttees of� t:he P�i31"1111 t1�� Com;n�i ssi on �Rre1,e Si:r�ets and Uti 1 �i ci es , Pa��ks & Recrea ti on , Pl a�> F� S��ci�i��i s�i ons , and �oarc( of A{�peal s. It; ��;as not fcl t tha�; ar�y � of �:hes2 s«bccm;»i�i.�ce� ar�re related in �ny�-;ay t:o �tl�e billh�arcis , so tf�ai; �va� v;hy t.f�e � Plann�inc� Comrniss�on Sn!as choseri to hold ��„, Publ �ic Hear�ings . I�e said t:h1t �in revieti�,��inq ! the hi s�ory of the si c�n orc�i i�anr.e and sce-i nc� f:f�a�; t�,�c� no�,v havc a resi,ruct«r�c oi th� Planniny Con�misiony v;�hich does empo;Jer cer�ain Cor��n�issions ro report to ti�e Planr,�irg �Oi1�,111SS1di1 }"��dt'iV� t0 u�St�'tCt�ICS af1C1 1"e�v.i,�IV� �0 C'Un1+��utl�� y i��'.r�'�nE�l11E'.11�. ��'' �flOU��i1'L the orciin��rce si�,o�ld be cha.i�qed hecause i�(; ��ras noi coir,p.atible 4�,i i.fi the dev��(oG�n.er�t . process rio��a assi g��ecl to the i ndi vi c;uul me�nk�ers of tl-�e P�l unni n� Ca,>>m�i ss-i ori. I � tha�!,�i��i: • the C�«��cil sf�ou�lcl conside�� an ord�inance cf�ange th<x�: G:�ou�ld b��ing �th�is i�ten� �o �chc � • Conrnuni�:,y Devcl o�}�r�e��t Commi ss�i ori pri or t:o corni ng to the Pa�nni r�a Cc�n�,l��i ssi o�� 7h� � P1annino �Commission ��rould pt�obaL}ly not fi��e to holci a public hc�ar�ing, I��t just .revieva � � � the reco�r��n�nd�tion of the Co��muni cy De�e1opm�n�t Co�r�rnission, for approval . � �' Chairman F3a��r�is saicl that P�4r. Dav�id flarris may .b� right unuer �;h� pr�s�n�; s�;ruc�ur^, but as it �;�as no�� over 1Q i�,onilis since th:;e Special Use Permits sl�ould i�ave been , heard, the P�I ann i ng C�,n,n i ssi oti s.houl d ha��e ueen hol ci�i ng Pub�i i c E':ea��i ngs over a ycur ago, fin said it +�,�as proha.f�ly true tha�� i;l�e si�r� ordina.rce should be rewritten , and . • in time 'r,he P1 anni nc� Commi ssi oi� ��oul d huve some recoii��renda.tions to pass on i.o the Ci ty Counc-i 1 , bu� a;e noti�J hauu to enforcc the ordi i7ance as i L ti�as at; the pres�n�t tinr�. He said i,ha�c because tf�ese tiear�inc,s s��er� no�;v a year lai;�, it t•�as �cirne for �;he Nlun��i�� . Comini ss�i on and Co��nc�i 1 io qu�i t stal l i n� anci get movi ng on these requests. t{!e shoul d � either enforce the ordinance or repeai it. . � 1�1►�. David Harris said it �vasn't; that. he didn't �eel t��e should carry our responsi- bi l i ty, b«t that he fel t the Pl a.nni ng Comni��ssi oi� was bei ng askeci �:o re��i e�ti SOITl�tI1�l ilC� that the Community Development Co��imission should huve been charged with in regard to aesthet;ics . He said that the billboard companies �veren 't waiting to construct these bi 11 boards , they ��rere al read,y i n exi stei�cc. He sai d ��Je kne�� tl�a�: they were ��rel l enouc�h constructed so the�� v�e�"�I1�,t CJOli1(� �0 fall down. He said that if a Specia1 Use Permi� ��ras granted, these. bi 1 1 boUrds �-dould cont;i nue to exi st, and he thou,l�i, the � thi ng to do VJOU� CI L�G to ask the Counci 1 to revi ei�r the ordi nance to see ho��r thi s tI1111g t�uas passed to the Planning Cominis.rion. ►i� said they ��ere virtuzlly asl:ing tf�e � Planning Commission to take ca��e of variances here, before it appears befot�e �the Appeals Commission. ". � . • Chairman liarris said tl�e Planning Commission wasn 't. being asked for a recommendation � on any variances. . • Mr. Clark sa�id that if the Planning Commission .��aanted to send this do�-an. to any of �the Com�nissions for revie�v, it was ceri:ainly in. their jurisdiction to do so. , . � ��-, . . _, - � Pla,iin�inc� Commission�Meei:in�1-�/�ucJusl; C,_ 1975 ' ,_._,_ � �'aq� 22 ' ! . � . Chai rman Il��rri s sai d th��t i f thi s was goi nc� to be seni; to any Commi ssi oris und�r the f'lann�iny Cominission, it ��dould probabl,y hav� 1;0_ go to tti�Jo or three. Tf�ese would � � be Con�n,uaity Development, Environmental C011lil11SS1011 , and maybe the Hunian Resour�ces i � • Contm�ission. � � ��1r. Lanyenfeld said �:he Environmental Quality Co�nmissior�, sometime in i;he past, ' , he coulcln ' t remember the specific dai:e, had be�:�n a�ked by him �:o review i:he sign ord�i nance �n rel�1t1011 to hi 11 i�oards . fi^ had su�c�ested that the bi 11 boarcis �;h�n i n � exisi;�'nce should he spr��ead c>ui; among �L-hc� n�embersh�ip, ��ith each rnember cf�eci<ing on � thre� or four bi 1 1 t�oards and each ma4:i r�y �:hei 1� o��,�ri envi ronn�enta�l assessmen�:. He I said tha L th�i s i cfea �•Jas nc�t :-��el comed, anci he ��,�oul d say that as far as the Commi ssi on at tf�at time, the s�ic�n ordiriance ;jusi� facied away. - � {�r. � Lindblad sa�id tl�a�: he was on the Coil�,nunity Development Commission, and this � Comn?ission had on(y met tti�rice. He Sz;�� nEy n�u considered the�ir goals anci objectives at just or�e f11�Cl.�ll1c�; and the sign ordinanee did co�i;e up. • The coriserlsus ��as that , they �•rere goin� to have recon��:nendations on .all sic�ns in genet�al9 no�: just L�illboards , � � and tf�e►,e i�rere so!�,� stronc� ��celings on th�is mati:er. � � f�ir. Da��id Iiarris said �LI�-is :�ras part 4and parcel of his thinking. l-Jhen hE� referrec� . to billboards , I�e vlasn ' t on1y rc�ferring �:o this type of sign , but other signs as tvel �l . � . He� saic that you j��st had to �lool: a�t particular. sho}�ping eei��t:ers to see ho��r much had � i,o L'� dore on �:i�e sign ordinance. He said they all fall into t.he sign ord�inance � . requircrnents as fat, as square foo�age, bu�; no fi�econ:n�enda�ion �-aas made as to the . app�arar�ce �of �Liiese s i gns or ho�-� they Gvoul d bl end i n vri�;h exi st�i ng si gns . He sa�rd ` stanclards should bc set for app�arances as well as square footage. . ; (�1r. David I�arris said he ti�rould sug;est that 'the P1an�ing Co;nmission close the • � . Publ i c Heari ngs a.nd refer tf-�i s maLter to the Con�muii�fit,y Devel opme��t Commi ss i on. f-ie . ; . ti�aot�ld also request that tl�e staff ask tfi� Council to r�viev,� the provisions or the ; sign ot�di nance, so that i t t;�as not operati ng under the szme condi ti ons we }�ad when ' it.��,as enacted in 19�9. Ne said the orciinance si�o��ld be brought up to date to meet � the .charge of tl�e ne�� Planning Carimission. � . � . � � ��1r. Clarl: said f�e didn 't think. �ti�e had �:o chanc�e the pt�ocess of the �Special Use Pehmit on billboards , because ��hat the ordinance said was alright. If the Plann�ing � � Comnli ss-i on �-ranted to adopi; a pol i cy that these or any othei~ Speci al Use Per�ni ts havi rig � � to do with 'billboards ' go to other Co,�imissions that was i�ine. He said it ��as p�ssible that these various subcommissions �-�ould set up policies that could be used by the ' Planni►ig Co{111111SS1011 at a later date, so it may be unnecessary for these to go baci< to ; a Subcommission. This inay be a lit�:le premature to think about changiny i.he sign � ordi��tilce unti l u�e have experi enced ��hai: ��e were goi ng to experi enc� under the ne�� .program. � ' Mr. Driyai�s. said it ��aould be•a long process to change the sign ordinance, and he i didr� 't know if they �vould be changing the section that relates to bil1boards or ; adveri:ising .signs. IAJe have recommended a criteria ��I�ich we would use in judging the exisi;ing b�ill.boards. Therc were certiin things in �;he sign ord�inance which do need ' . chane7ing. He said that there had bcen input from tl�e Su�conui�ittees and from the , � Cou�icil , and he 'couldn' t see any reason for delaying at this 1;ime. We should, dispose , of them and send them along to Council . � . !� � -h1r. Scott sa�i d he thouc�ht i t was the purpose of� reorgani zati.ng the P1 anni ng � Conunission to facilitate �;he process , and �his he has done. Vie said this had alre�ldy � been discussed at; i:hcir Canm�ission meei;inc�, and t;he rea�on he was late for this meel:ing was because he stopped to �e�L input froir� the Charnl�er of Connnerce, who were having a . . . � • Planning_Comni�ission Mcet'it��. /lu�c us� 6?__1_975 , � Page 23 . � . meeting earlier �;his evcnir�g, and he ��ras ready to .pass on his inpu� and vaas preparect to ac�: on�tl�ese i�equests. � h1r. Langenfeld said he d�idn't thir�k the Environmental Commission �JOU�CI object to rev�ieG•�ing thc bi �ilhoards, but he was fearful tl�at this ��:ould turn �ini:o a "r�ing- } pong I�all " type ofi situation, and the Pl�nning Con�mission ��ould s��ill � h1ve to make . the f-i nal recona�ic>r�dati on to the Counci l any�F�ay, so �-,�e mi gh�: ju�t as vde11 keep i t . , ' ai; �the Planning Cornrnission level or t��e would st�ill I�e at this next year. ' � ' Chai rman H��rri s sai d tV�ere t�ras another poi nt i n ��t�i ch 1 ack of acti on by the ' Ci ty•, t��kiere, a s t�i p u l a t i o n c o u l d h a v e b e e n p u t o n a. S p e c i a 1 Use Permi�; about dlmaged � siyns ,noL being a-I�lo�rred to bc rebuil�:, could have eliminated one biliboa.i�d, �•rhich � had �ust been� reU��ilt. � . � � � ��1r. Olson said that if P�ir. Richard Ilai�ris �va•s referring to a sign ��ah�ic{� had bcen I b.lovm do��i�, i:hi s G�ras a t��o i�uced si yn , as only part of i t bl e�� dovan , i t was determi,�ed f � that i L �•�asn ' t o`�er 50% destroy�d. He said tha�. �t the tin�e this sic�n ��!as repa�i��ed, � � he cautiof�ed the si c�n cornpary i:hat i f the request for a Spcci al Use Perm i t �vas den�i ed this s�ign ��!ould I�ave to come cior�n. � �.Mr. C1ark said he thoug{��t tliat �-fhat ��fe neec�ed �-aas some clarification on vlhen a si c�n. coul d be repai red and ��rhen i t coul d not. L�Je ��foul d have to kno�r ti-ahat const:i tuted enough damage so the sign could not be rebuilt, � . _ � . � � I�ir. Langenfeld said he thought th�y ��,�ould be consiciering each sign to see ho��- ; they met the requiremenf;s o-1- the sign �orci�inance. Mr. Craig Lofquist said that he didn'�; think any of these billboards m4t all _ the requi rem;�nts of� the s�i gn ordi na��ce. f�ir. Ol son sai d he t�roul d ver�i fy 1:h�t not one � of the 14 bil1boards requesting a Special Use Permit n;et all the requirements of the � Code. � � � � � hir. Davici Harris said that it �vas because of all the questions raised at this meeting that he sugg�sted pass�ing this on to the Community Developm�nt Comi.��ission , and the statem�nt that was just made that none of these billboards met all of the Code t�equirements indicated to him that these request should be revieGaed. � ' Mr. Clark said i;hat one observation should be made and �;hat was that slowly these billboards t�:ere Ueing moved out of the City. As he had stated earlier, at some point in tirn�, we should only' have 5 billbourds left •�in the City. He said � . that if the Planning Commission and the Council recomm�nded approval of these Special Use Permits with i.he stipulation that 4•,�hen i;he property arouno them was developed, � they would have to be removed. You can deny them all , you�can approve them all , you can deny some, and ap{�rove some, with stipulations, or you could ��ait until they continue todissolve themselves out of the City, and then take the bull by the horns so to speak, t-rhen there are only 5 or 6 billboards left in the Ci�y, and eliminate tiiese, instead of where thei�e were 14. We know that if ��e deny all these Special Use Permits , ��re have heard i.hat we would be in couri;. We don't know this , but this was what c�e have heard. . • Chairman Harris said that in deference to Mr. David Harris , �the Council in their t�isdom in 1JG9, passed an ordinance that said that by September 15, 1974, a billbaard sha11 either be removed or have a Special Use Permi�;, and h�is position on this, for over t��ro years , has been that we eil:her enforce this ordinance or repeal it. . He said that he was ac�a�inst. putting laws on the books and just letting i:hem sit � therc, or use them indiscriminately. � � , � . � . . �. , , . � ..�.�-� -� . . . . . , �- ,. . . Plann4in� Commiss'ion Meet^in� - Augu�>t 6, 1975. "_ __Pa�Ce 24 . � � P1r. Scol:�t said the P1ann�ing Coni�nission dicf have a memorandunt �From Mr. Sobiecl� ' which says i:hat; the City admin�istrat�ic�n l�as recommending that. �:hese Specia� Use � � Per�nits be �r�nted. � . � , P4r. Dri g��.ns sai d he t�aani:ed to refer to a stal:emeni: i n thi s mc�»�randum whi ch • states , "After discussion ��ith the Ci�ty Ai:�;orney, it ��as cfetermined i;he zoning and variances from Section 21;. 042 ��hicii exist w�ith �;he existing advertising signs , � ' �-�ould 'a1so he �legal non-coni-orminc� since thr-�y 4�rere in�ex�istence prior to the acloati on of� �th� si gn o��di��ance. " Ife sai d th�at I�e in terprets tl�i s statement to mean that any ex�isting s�ign do�s not have to conform to that section. He said that if ; you look ai; that section of the cocle, it vaas a vcry iniportarit section. It covers �:he maxii»um I�ei ght, �{ie s�i gi� area, tf�c di stance bet��een si qns , the setbacl<s , and covers �the di �: car�ce f�,om s treet i nt:cr•secti ons. He sai d t�� si gn compa��i es were comi ng up vri th i nr�ova t�i o;�s al l tl�� ti n��e, artu �-ai thaut cor�tro1 of any o�i these tf�i n�s on tl�ese � bi 11 boa7�ds , �vc cion ' t {:no��•r ��:i�a1; ��,e ��i 11 have. Iie thou�ht �:f�e City A�:�orney shoul d c(o a �l i t�tl e more research ei� tha�t one sc�cti on to de termi n� i-i thi s vaas a �ra��cli-athc�r � clause oi� iia�c. H� repeai�ed i.I11t l;{lls ��;�as a ver,y impor��tant section., Ti�ere vras not;f�`inc� . there to stop an ��dver�ising co�i�pany fr•oni enla.rg�ir�y, t:he sign area. The sig�� ti�as a�lready t.here, but �f 'chey don '� ha��e to comply �Lo tf�a�c section of the ord�inlnce , tf�e panel s pu�t on �chese b�i 11 boards coul d be any s�i ze. 1�1r. O1�an said tha�.; excep'c -for the billb��ds that got special Use Permits in 1970, al 1 th� o�:her bi 11 boarus �ti�ere b«�i 1 t bei or�e 19G�3, so i t woul d see�n that yoi� cou�id go bacl: to the original sign p�rmit to uetermine the specificai;ion on the sign at tl�e 1;ime thc si gn perrni t ��,�as i ssued. P1r. Qavid Ha.rris said that in looking over the ordinance, it would seem �;ha1; tf�e Plannii��n Co��i�issia��- had no o�.f-��:r� c{�o�ice �bu�: �;o �.pprove them al1 , ot� den,y �:I�em all . Ho�,�r are you .going to sa_y i.rat you ar�e go�ing to upprove one that s�as 4�7 �feet away fl�om a resiclent�iul are� , ��hich was non-confoi�rning according �o the oruinance, and then deny one thut �-t�as 483 �re�t a�-ray fro�n a residei�t�ial area. Gthere .ti��ould ��ou make the judgei;,ent, Ir yo« approve one of the signs tPiat doesn't meet the code, he didii 't see how you could den�� a;�other one, because it doesn' t meet the code. There has to be some cons i st�nGy i n t.h.e aami n i strati on. � We ca�t��not be capri ci ous. If �-re approve one, we approve them all , if� we .deny one, we. deny i;hem all . . I�{r. Lanyenfeld said then the decision be�Fore the Planning Commission was to grunt or not to gr�ai��t these Sp�ci al Use Permi ts. � � . Chairn�an Flarris said he •thought ii; was a li�;tle more than that. He said he could see P1r. Davi d f�arr�i s ' poi nt. We can grant a S�eci al Use Pen-ni t, but a1 ong �-ai th th-i s we can attach stipulations , and he didn ' t �:hink there was anyway that i;he Planning Commission c:oi.ild eliil�inat:e 14 sic�ns tomorrow. This vJas unrealistic. However, the - , Planning Com,nission can stipulate on the Special Use Permit such things as maini:enance, . rebuilding in case of damage, putting in a percentage fiyure. � Mr. Lanqenfeld said he felt the Special Use Permit was a poi�erful permi�;, and ' if we follo��ecl the things necessary to have one approved, this would help in making � � our determination. k-{e said t{�at inconsistency would noi; be grounds for denying a � Special Use f'ermit, but by pinpoiriting i:he defec�;s qf each sign with the stipulations , ti��e would have consisl;��.�cY. Chairman Flarris said this, was why he fel�: each sign had to Ue considered individually. . � '. � Mj�. Lanqenfeld said he didn' �: feel that this would conflict wi1:h any other ordinance because if thc stipulations of a Special Use Per�nit were violated, 1:hen _ . _ . ��ro .. . • . _ __ ._ .��`� ,-: .. . - . . � . . • . . . . • i � Planr�in�Con�mi�sion P1eetyin�� /1uc�u�1; 6, 1975 � Page 25 . this would be part Qfi tlie process af e1iminating� the billboards. ' ��1r. Dav�i d fiarri s sa i d that i n the Publ i c Wo►�ks Di rector' s memo he menti ons two � ` � . � , sti pul ati o�is : (1 ) G�lf�enever a 101: i s devel oped and an ad��crti si ng si gn i s 1 ocated ; upor� �i 1;, i;hat s i gn a��i 11 be removed. (2) Gdhenev�r an adver�;i si ng si gn i s destroyed ! or damac�ed f�y an act of nature, vandalisin or oLher .mcans, this sic�n cannot be repaired � or rebu�i l t .and ��i 11 ha��e to f�e reinoved. P'n�. Har��i s sai d he di dn ' t I%no�� vrf�at other � basis yau ��roul d have foi� ren�o��al , because you certainly coul dn 't base the removal on the ord�i�iance , becau;e G�,e �ire i nco��s�i ste�it �-di th tl7e ordi na��ce ri ght now, i n that none of. tl�e Ui 11 boards me�,t a11 tl�e requi�"Gllli'iltS of the Cade. 1�1r�. Lai�c�enfeld sa�id fie d�idn' t think �:here �-��ere enough facts here to base a den�i�l '� on, so i;l�e s�;ipulations �-,-oulc{ be sub-articles of i;he e:�d�rance. � . F Nr. Dr�ig��ns a�l�:��d (�1r.David I{arris if�ha.t the �intent: o�f the Counc�il had been ��hen ' they ga`�e tf�e sign co�np��.r�ies �Fi��e ye�rs �Lc.� apply fior a Sp�cial Use Perinit. f�e �aor�dered x [ �•;hy they jus�: d�i�� ' t mai;e them non-confori>>i�ng G�,�hen the sign ordirla��ce ��ent into ef�ect, � so t{�ey had to appl� for Specia�l Us� Permi�s righ�; a.��ay. f�'ir. Driya��s said h� fel�:t the � . - , - , 'lS 111 51 11S. ' _ , - � ��1C' e� t � '-ent o�` the Counc�i 1 �;as i.o � I 1 ow thun �t.i mc �;o amort�i z g 9 � 1 p t, � ' • P1r. Da��id Ilarris said he �:hourht tha�L was ,a reasona.ble assump�;ion. P1r. Driqans � � � , sai d �;hat i�f thi s �,�as the i��ter�t, �t�en he d�i di� 't see I104�r �Lhe Ci ty Ai;i,orncy coul d su�� .-��- � � � ears to am�rfize these�signs . � � � - � . � re� in ttihc.n i;he ��e��e given five y th�.y �Jet e grand fd�i e , J � I��1�. Cla.rl< �aid �the Council felt that if the sign companies r�anted to conLinue � theit� siyns after f�i��e years ; th��y 1-,�ould i�ave to obtain a Special Use Permi�. f�1r. � said �;�e had ' ani�ic�i ated �that they ti-,ould need variances and rezoning. Tl�e City Clark P . � - � � � non-conformin uses and �� are le � . 9 - ' c i� has sai d �Lhat tl � g . Ai,torney, in reseaf c{i�n� tli , r , i -, � • . only need a Special Use f'errni'i,, t��r. Driqans sa7d ��ae only h�ave F�r. Sob�i�ch s ti�ord, ; because there v�as no con��iruitica�l;ion directly from i;he City Attorney, so ��,e really dan' t � have a legal opinion. � � � � � no��andum to f�tr. Herrick. � . sent a co a�f tf��i s me� . hat h9r. Sobiech pJ hfr. Olson said t € ' � C h a i r m a n H a r r i s s a�d t t l a t w i t h o u t a r e s p o n se, tl�is was no-L a lega l opinion. � � ' Mr. Scott said that his Commission felt that people do change their minds. He ; said that altf�ough these billboards have been 7n Fridley for a long time, the people � � he had in ut from, feel that they ��;�ere no longer desirable, and it was felt that the � p - ��s option should be there to imF,rove our enviroriment. We should noL be blocked into la ! tf�at were �Lhere, for eternity. . • ' � d been involved in hashing��this thing out for ove�� a year �1r. Lindhlad said he ha ; � � - - � - at i t was hi s feel i n t;hat t�ai�en tfle ordi�iance . .�' said �,h 9 � �nd he a reed �,�th ��r. Scot�,. H� • � . � - lboards . ive the si n coil>>�nies five years to remove their bil , � � �ri ti;en i t was to c7 � I . �r� s � , _ � . and he di dn 't E:now v�f�y a Speci�l `t�se Peri7�i t cl ause was 4�'Y'1 t�;e11 i nto thi s ordi nance. ; He said ti�at for the past year, this has been a ' hot potato ' . The Council says �;he ; �; ' the Plannin Commission says legal counsel . We ar.e back ,��ahere i and . Planning Con�n�ssion, 9 . . , , , . . � ti�e were a year ago, still put�.ing off a decis�on. He said he couldn t spea{, for the , ' � � Comii�unity Devel'opment Conm��ission , because tf�ey had only �ad one meeting which uaas ? relative i;o the goals and object�ives as a tivhole, but; �Lhe general consensus was that ; they were not in favor of the bi �llboards continuing in Fridley. Zn fact, he had talked ; to -man co 1e, and he didn' t ki�ow anyonc �aho ��las in favor of �;hese billboards , except Y P P the sign. companies. ile said he had wrii:ten do��an a fiew comments he had gotten from people he had discussed this with.which wcre, they were unsightly, and �;he message was , . noi: pertincnt t� Fridley, and �:he profits made on �:hese billboards were at the expense of the f=ridley residents. These signs were i;here 1:o attract atten�;ion, which was a � .,,-�,.., � Plannin�_Commission �Meetinc � ll�aqust 6, 1�7� A � Paqe 26 � . . . � _ �_ — — � � ! v�h'ich n�ade �:hem a dlstraction to motorists. Ne .said the Federal government; has ?. ' passed a •1at-� �;hat i:hese bi �l1l�oards have to be so far i��on� the higf�vr�ys , and he felt they ,4vere try�ing to discouraye them also. Mr. Lindb'lad said hc felt that billboards v�ere .firom the horse and buggy days ��fien ��eo�le had timc to sii; and look around as they •t-rent do��.n the road. !-le said i;l�at it ��as fiis persona�l o��inion that he COUld�trt find . , any rea�on to sup��ort the coi�t�inuation of billl.�oards in Fridley. � . t�r. Scott said i�e did �ttenci the Chamber of Commerce meeting, and he couldn 't � , find any sup{�ort 1'or I_�i 11 boards from th i s organi za�i on. .� t�1r•: Lofq«i st said lie �-aoul d 1 i ke to resj�ond to the statemeni;s just macie. He � sai d tl�e s�:a�ement 4��as mude that no one i n �;he Ci�;y 1 i ked bi 11 boards , but thi s aias j a Publ'-ic I-learing ar�d he d�idn' t see an,y ci,tizen� preseni: objecting to tl�ese billboards . i He sa.i d he ��ras a�;rare that th�re �-rcre son;e peo��l e �ti�ho di d i�o t appreci ate bi 11 boards , ' but he cf�i cl�� 't th i nk i i �,ras a va1 i d poi nt to say tlia L bccause or�e perron tal l;�d to ''�, . �eopl e �-r{�o cii cln ' t: l i I<e bi 11 l�oards -i;o say �:f�at no o��e 1 i I:ed b�i 11 boards . He sai ci i t � t�lasn ' t the bi 1 1 board comE�an�i cs uaha pu�: b�i 1 1 boards i n certai n pl aces , i t ��aas the ` • busii�essmen, aciveri:�se�rs , �vho asked tha�� tVie-ir message be put on the board, in a cer•ta�in place. He sa�id iha.t this �-,�as a 1egif;imate business and it ti�,�as the adver�ti�sers ��rho ��aere aski�ig for the ��Lssage on the boar�d. H� said it r�asn 't tlle sign cempan�ies ��1ho �;ere i1�a{;i ny the money, i t ��ras the a.d��e��t;i sers. f�Yr. Li r�clhl acl asE:ed �1r. Lofo,ui si.: if �i;hey t��oul d do i�c -f�or free? Mr. Lofq«�i si� sai d that 15% of thei r busi i�ess t�as publ i c servi cE�. I�1r. Li ncli�l ad sa i ci that ��as a�•tax wr-i te�off,. and the adverti sers used i t as a tax .write-off also. . ' f�ir. Lofqui st sa i d he SNou�d al so 1 i ke to cl ari fy the Federal Beauti f�i cati on �:1;, 6ecause this was not fo�, the purpose o�: el �imina�:ing billboards . �1hat the Geaut�ification Act said ��;as tf�a�c the ou�:door advertisii�g business ��.�as a lec�itimate business and had a ri ght to cxi st, but as �a busi ness i f, only had t{�e ri ght to exi st i n commerci al and inc�ustr�ial areas , and they shoul�d be ren;oved ��rom residential and rural areas. He said the 660' requii�emE�nt ��,�as eliminated with the last amendm�nt. The reuson for thi s �4�a� i.hat �;Iicy 1�ran�;ed �to I<eep the .bi 1 l l�oards out of res i denti al areas , so they put a distance on them. The S�ate Com,pliance Act said there �vas no distance, it was meant to be vie�,�ed from i;he high�•day,,.bu1: you couldn ' t have i;he»> in a residential area. As far as commercial property, the bill�oards could go right up to the high4•ray as long as the,y �;�eren 't on p«hlac prc�p�rty. Mr. Lofquist said he didn 't think the Federal . . Beautificati�n Act ever meant to eliminate billboards , and in all the laG-Js governing � billboards , amortization ��as never mentioned. It states that if a man legally builds a �i 11 bo�rd, and G�,�e are c�oi ng to take i t away from liin�, the only way i t could be taken ►,�oul.d be 1 i ke anythi i�g el se, �v��e are c�oi ng to have to pay cash for i t. They do not recognize amortizat��on. Mr. Lofc�uist said that at the present time, we have 4von a. ' number of court cases on thai: poirt, .prohibition and amortization. He said that the feel i ng f�e got ��hen he inet wi th th� Counci 1 and the Ci ty /�ttorney was that they «ere trying �;o resolve this question on a basis where it would be palatable for � everyone concerned, because this ��as a touchy question . He said he really couldn 't believe that the only people interested in outdoor advertising were the bi�llboard companies. , • Mr. Scoti: sai d �;ha.i; he t-Jou1 d cal 1 att:enti on �o �the fact that the Human Resour.ces � Commission n�ade a statement that th�y felt very negatively about billboards. At that meeting, tf�ere were several citizens , and it was his� impression tfiat the Commission membe��s t�ere here to represeni: people. So these people didn 't have to be at the . meeting to speak, the Conm�issioner's could speak for �hem, and they told him loud and clear that tl�ey don '.t w�nt bil� boards in the City "of Fridley. He said that if the ci i;i zens of Fri dl cy di dn't wani; bi 11 bc�ards , was i�: 1;he pol i cy ofi Naegel e or any other outdoo►� adveri;ising company �;o jam them down their i;hroats , or take them to court? • . � � . . � . , ; ' . . � � � . � � • .�,,�._, ... . . ' � � Plannin�C Cc�nunission f�ieetinc��Au�Cusi; 6, 1975 _" • Pac�e 27 � . , _,�,__ ._ _.. r .� ..� � 7hat just d�icfn ' i: secm tc� h�im to be �;he pr�oper Uusiness a�;titude. � . � - i i 't ��J111t outdoor adverti si n , �� Mr. Lofi�u�ist sa�cl tl�at if the C��ty of Fr�d1ey d d� 9 f!aegele d�icln ' t wani: to cram it do�;�n their throats eiti�er. �ir. Scott said he ��as ; � � - threatenin_y to go to �ourt. f•1r. I_ofquist said he had mei�ely pointed out the legal � f • �, aspec�;s of t�h�,t. has ha��p��ned, because �-Jha�: ,yo« are tryir�g �o say to my company G•,�as t{iat vre cannol; conduci: bus�iness in your com�»un�i�y, and this tvas a legitima�;e business. `i Chai rmai� liarri s sa�i cl �;l�ey had a 1 etter �irom M�1 Jacobson i n thei r agenda , stating i:ha�: f�e ��roulcln' �; sign the request foi� a Special Use Permit for a sign on ,� his pro{�erty, and f�e ��t�o�ild 1 �ike this clarified. I�ir. Lofquist said t:f�is v�!as a misunaers�:a�;ding. On ot�r lease aqrcernent: �vi �f�� h�iin, it t•Jas stated t:hat no beer or i ci garet�;e ad��erti si ny �;�o��l cl appea.r ��n �:hi s b�i l 1 boar�d. f�ccause f;l�e peopl e 1',rllU .�irr�arl�:te far tlie messaqe do not al��ray5 kno�,�� ;�ze ter•ms of �he 1 ease, tl�ese have a.pE�eared on hi s boarcl. h�r. Jacof;son �,��an�ed th�i s cl ar�i i i ed, and after u,e tal ked t��i th r��im, he no 1 onger nad any objec�t�i oi� �o the Sp�ci al Use Pern�i c. f�r. Olsor� sai�.' t"ere Gvas further canfusion o� �;his , because the lease still had � � �;hree yeai�s to run, anci yet tir. Jacobsor� sai a f�e no 1 onyer �;anted tl�e si gn on hi s ' . pro��erty.� f��r. Loic;uis�t s�id they ha.ci an agreen.�n� 4'J1�I1 him noti�J. Chair��man Ha, ris saic.l the P�lar��ing Conirn�i �sion dicf noi� have a copv of �;his letter, and �:hey could not • approve u S��ec�i al Use {'crmi t on p;�c�{�erty �,�i ihou•t t��e o�rners coi�ce�!t, so someone .t�t�o�il d � have to be responsible to c�et a copy of th� ayreement to the Plann�iny Commission. • A10TIOTJ b� David H<�rris, second�d b� Lincll_�1ad, that the Planning Co�r,mission 'close th� Public Hcariny oiz i�1,e requests for Specia.Z Use Permit-s, SP �175--0t3, SP #75-09, SP #75- 10, SP f{75-11, SP (I75-12, SP #75-13, SP �{75-14, SP #'75-15, SP �#75-1G, 1�y Naegele Outdoor I:dvertisinc� Com�any. , • • t�;r. Dr�igans said he �-Jas going �to vote againsi; this mo�;ion unt�il �,�e resolve some of�the probl en�s on GohUt cou.�se of. a�ti on• ��,�e ti�;�re goi��g to ta�e. ffe fel�; there G�;ere still legal problenis ar�d �ti�e haven 't ciiscussed �;he traffic problems tha�; �:here migh'c be from the adverti si ng s��i gns on our f��i�hwa}�s. . . ' hir. Dav�i d f�arri s sai d that by cl osi ny the I�ub1 i c� Heari ng , i t vaoul d gi ve someone the opporturity of mak-ing a motion �Lo dispose of this rnatter. He said the Plantiing Commission couldn 't base �their aecisions on ��;hat ��e would like to read into the ordinance. The ordi nance di dn' t say that a�ae coul d di sal lo�r si gns for any otiier reason than .thai; they �aere non--conformii�g by not meeting the setback and other requirernents of ti�ie ordinance. Ti�e ordinance doesn' t say 4ve can deny the Special Use Permi�:s on the basis that ��,e don 't 1 i I;e bi 11 boards, our co�l�m�i ssi on doesn 't 1-i ke bi 11 boal,ds, or soineone personally doesn 't like billboards. He- said he didn 't see this in �he ordina��ce. tJhether ��Je have too i�,�ny signs or tf�at they create a trafific hazard, he didn ' t see that - •- in the ordi nance ei�her. (�ir. Hart��i s sai d that he saw anl y one premi se for denyi ng a billboard based on the ordinance and �Lha�: was that they G-acre non-conforming and did not meet the cri tcri a set uE� �i n the ordi nance. He sai d ttiat titi��i th thi s �;houc�ht, and the , gen�leman fl�om I�aegele frad voluntarily stated that nane of the billi�oards meet all the reqi�irements of the ordinance, �ti�e only have one decision to make, either we approve � them. all , or deny them all . This was i:he only judgement they could make, based on the ordinance. • � Mir. Drig�ns said �;hey would have to havc very strong reasons for denying the ' �peci-al Usc F'ermits that would Ue cfefendable in court. Mr. Scoi;�: said i:he people he t�epresents were �williny to pay �;he price of c�oing to court. , . .,.,,_� . � �. -- - ----- :� 1975 ��a�e 28 _ � Plannin Coinmission__P1cet.in�,�_y�«��a�t G, _ � --- — UPCJiJ A [�OICls I�OTT', D�cvid Ilcl]'Y.'.7.;;� Li.ndb_i�d, L��nqenfe�r_edSthetPublic�llearingj.closed , Ilarr.is ��nd Dr�iq��ns voti.i�g n�y, Ch��iz-rr�an 1/arz_�,> dc�c1 `r . , at 11:20 1'.l�r'. Mr. D��vis Harris s��id I��e vras c�oing to make a motion becaase he firmly believed, � � �, ard unless son;eo��e co��lcl conv-ince his ci�i.-fieren�,1y, i:hai; f��e�sa�id`�t�hatl ife��eh��ere�o � � ' � approve al I �;he Speci��1 Use f'ermi t� , or deny them a.�l 1 . f l �lo��r i�r. Scoc�: 's tliinf;inq, I��.would s�y �hai. �;he only ��ra,y would be to ; ;� going to � , � �o le f��vored I�i 11 boards and ho�-� � F; hat�e a Ci ty -t-ri ae vo�:e to de te��z1 i ne. {�a�,�� manY p P � �; r�,any were ayainst. II� dic(n ' �; think any Conr,nissioner could saJ' �hat he rerresented i ,� �11 �:i��e ��eop1e, ti;��;ich (�lr. Sc o�i.t d�i d n o t sa y; and ��rhile some of us might f�eel that ; �; bil �ll�oards �-rere undesiruble, otf�ers may say if�at theY �'�'�t'e a vehicle �Nher� Lhey � ` '� m�;t�ivn and �f�<�.� they v;e��•e im��or�tar,1= to tl�e�i r ��;�1 i�are ar�d ��rel �o�thte� �os i{ti on , i got �n�or I ��l t: that as �l onq as i.huse h�i l l boa t�ds �-��re non-canform i��g , ai�d b� ta , i � . he approved thcm a�il , ' i � he rejectEcf one, i�e r�jec�ted a11 , and i f h2 approved one, _ I b�caase �tf,cy are al�l e�:i s i.i r�g ��l-i thi n ct14 fran��;.�or{: of the ordinance 9 but �;hey al so _i I 1 the mi i�ii�7�.�n requi r�,11,��ni:s . � ex-i s(; i n c;e(�erence of �I;!�� o��d�i nar�cc�. �I hey c�o no'c ir�eci, « ` :a The s�i gn orcli i�ar�ce s''��ul ci be rev i e�,��ed and huve betcer procedures to a11 ovr bet��r � but sion�ing ror individual b«s�nesses , ` �cont:rol s , not cnly i,� regara l;o b�i �i 1�oards , ., � ' so that tf�cy confor�n es �iieti cal �I y; a.nd tha.t these i:h�i nc;s sl-�ou i d be brought to . ��,hatever S«bcomrni ss�i on -�el t they had the respo��2 bi 1 i ty in thi s a��ea . � h10TIDN .��.� David Ilarr.is, that ilie P1ar2r�ingrCo1iunisPioJ JrO�° SP71�75o10,USP��7`51-�11ova1 � of the reqzaes�:s for Specia:l Use Permits, SP �f7� 08, S �r SP �175-.12, �P ,t7_`i-].3, SP ;�%5-.Z4. SP ;f7_5-15, SP ��75-16. �� N�e�r�Fr�dle�oCitydCodc,J.zng Con�va��, to a11ow the continuat_i.on of exist:ing billboards, 1 Sect_i.oi� 21�'.04'2, r:'ith the folloG,�=i_rtg stipulai:ions: .1, [��hcnev�r_ a lot is a'eve).oped and an adve.rtising sign is located upon ,�t, that sign wz71 be r_emoved. . � 2, Plhenever an advertisirig sign is destroyed or damaged by an act of_ natur.e, � vanda.2ism�or otl�er means, t_his siyn cannot 3�c repa.ired oz rcbu.ilt and will , have to be removed. � ' , ' - 3, q'he fo1)_o�ving signs cai1.1 be removed: .3740 East River Road, 81.20 Univcrsity llvenue N.�. , a1�d 7355 East River P•oad. 4. A11 tl�e Spec.i.al Use P�rmits come back one year from passa�� for revieT��. �fiai rnian Harri s sai d i:here woul d have to be a second to the moti on befo��e thi s � � could be discussed. � ' TIIE MOTION DIT'D 'FOR .I.T1CK OP' Il SF.COND. Mr. Olson said thatany motion for approval of the Special Use Permits . _ should mention. a percentage figure� on the amount of daniaye necessary for a sign to ' Ue removed. • Mr. David Hari�is said that if.there had been a second to the mo�;ion, thTs could have been open for discussion. . �1r. Drigans said he felt; �:I�cre were several reasons �for 5oneilelal ilnterpre�:a�ions �• to the next meeti ng. Ile fel i; t:he P1 anni ng Commi ssi on ne�.ded �J on �vhether the s��ec�if�icai:ion as si:�i�da��internreta�ionafron �he�CityrAi;torney ascto . upheld �in. 1 courl; of la�r�, abl;ain a � P � • .�� ._. . � Plar�ninc� Commission ��1eet;inc��/1uc�u�;t_G, 1975_ Page 29 � � ._.____._____ _ _.__._..___�_______ � t�rhy rezonin� ar��d variai�c�s ar� no�t rec�u�irc�l, aiad a le�7a1 bri�ef`ing on a�ha� posi L�ion �j, the C�ity of Ph�innetunka tcaok in giv�ii�g total deri�ial of billboards in the�ir communi Ly , � and ho��r �i1: was upiield in courl;. Mr. Uric��ar�s tlioughi: there ��aere enough unar�s�vered 4' quest�ions to just�ify coi�i:inui«��? �:hese rec�ue�,�ts . F1e t-dou1d also like to ask the �;wo . , j - ��i ce Chai�"Il1Ci1 ��resent, f7�r. I_i nd!�l��d and Mr, Davi d 11ar��i s , i-f they v;oul d attend the i nexi; meetinc) o�f the Planning Co�>>�j��ission, if i�ot on the Plannin� Commissi.on then to � ' be avai 1 al�l e �i n the audi ence. The both agr�eed. • � ; E � 1�10TTON 1>y Dr_iy�1n�, scconc��cl b�j I��ivJd IIJr_1'i��, i=hat the P1an��ing Conunission G"011t.7_11UG thc r.cc7ucst,for Sper..ia.Z Usc Pc�r_mit:s, SP �;75-Ot3, SP 4/75-09, SP �/75-10, SP �175-11, • ; �1' 1l'75-_12, ,SP �;75-13, SP 1i75-.Z�, SP 1f75=.1.i, SP �;%5--1C, b�1 A�a�yele Outdoor Advcrt:i�,�i.g � Comp�any, for the cor�Linu<.rt..ion of existiny l�il]bo,:rds, per Frid_7ey City Cvdc�, ?.1�1.0�72, j UIlt1.1 TSL1 f1)S� 2U� ��7J. . , � P1r. C1 ai,{: as ked f�1r. Uri g�ins i f he G�lanted thc . Ci ty A ctorney presen-c of �i-f- �:he � ansG,�ci��s coul c� be �i n �!ri ti i�g. r�m. Uri c�ans sai d i t c�t.:i d be f�a.ndl ed ei thcr 4-ray. Ch�i rmai� Iia.rr�i s sa.i d he ��;ou�f d al so t�,�ant ��r�-i t�:en c1 ari f�i cai;�i on o i the f iel��i n - Ja�obson lc�tcr b�i=ore LI11S ineetirg also. . � ffr. Sco-�� sa�i rl f.ha� i��o maf:ter ��rhat i.he a l;cot��ney says , �11e ��i l l sti l l . he �Fac�ci �;�ith the sarne prohlcm; wt1G�IlEY�,�e are going to approve them all or deny them all , and no ma i.�;er tti�ha i: grour-�Us t�e use to cieny �Ll�en�, t��e ��Jou1 c1 sti 11 have a probl em. As far as vri7at otf�er conr;nunities do, he could care 1ess , if ��as �•�hat Frid�le,y dici that concerned h-im; a1�ho«gh it migl�t be nice �:o s�� how (•1innetonl:a a,ot al;�ay vrith it. I�ir. Drigar�s said f.f�is ��yas his �ointy because hn 4u�e��r t'r�.ey vaere going �to have to have very s�o1 i d ��easoi�is fo�� deni ul . h1r. Li ndbl ad sai d �;he fact that they �•,�ere al 1 nor�- conformir�g secmeu like a good reason to him. t�1r. Davi s Harri s sai d they had to real i ze t;hat these ��Jere er.i sti ng structures , antl put. them 111 the �ame pe��s��ec��ive �as S��cial Use f�e:�u�its for cil stations . 71�iese have r�oL ai��days conforme� to the Code eitlier. He said the one station in particular �•aas� the one by St. I�illiams Church. In this case, tve couldn 't deny them a Specia1 Use Permi t beca.use �i:hey don '1; conform when i t vaas �;he Ci ty that put the road i n to mal:e it t1011-•C011�FOl�ining. I�e sa�id t{�at ��ahen �a Special Use Permit ti^:as requested for a � netti� proposal , ther� th�y have �to convince .the. C�ity that this vfas good , ,but when it t�aas al ready cxi s�L�i ng, then the Ci�,y ha�s to have val i d reasoE�s for sayi ng th�i s was not, good. Mr. Scot� said he agre�d ��rith P9r. Lofquist�i;hat there would have to be compensation, � but tl�e peorl e he had ta1 ked to were wi 11 i ng to have �;hi s conipei�sati on pai d. Fle sai d that i f ��eopl e chai�se thei r mi nds after a company has h�ade an i nvestment, they nave � to be prepared to pay. . � Mr. Drigans said the burden of pro�� to deny any Special Use Permit was with the Ci ty. . . - P1r. Langenfeld asked if a Special Use superced�ed variances and rezoni�ng? Cha�irman Narris said it �vas not a vehicle �o get around variances and rezoning. Mi�. O1son said he thoughi; �;hat Mr. Drigans motion to get a legal ini;erpretation � from i:he �ii;y Attorney was a good one. He said he also. had a fe��v legal briefs on this matter, and h� ti�Jould have co�i�es made and sent t�o the Planning Commission. UPON Il SIIOW OI' /IIlN1�5, lli.ck llarris, .David Iltlr.ris, Drig�ns, Langcnfeld voting aye, � Lrndbl��d .and Scott vot:.ing nay, th� mot.ion car.ricd. . ' . , . • � . . .�.., . . . . . . _ � _�'_'' � ;� : _� �� _ . ti . � ;! � Chair,man �Ilarri; ,�i�i �f�ie hour vras get�ting lai:e, bu�; because all i:he Special Use � � Pcrrni ts had l�cen aciverti�ed for thi s ciai:c, he thauqht the Publ �i c I�eari ng wotil d have be to opened fior L'r•ecic, Inc. , also. � " . �I � 1G. � f'UGI.IC �fff�/1{:Tf�G: R�(lUf_ST I-OR 11 SI'l-CT(1L USE PI"fZP�1IT,_ SP ��75-17, QY aR�DE, IhC. : '� l�o j�E�rnri t �tl�e corit�i n�i�iti o�i oi` ari c.>,�s l:i r�y I�i l I (�oard on par•L o�' Lot�, Audi f.or' s � ' ' � Sui�d�ivis ion f�;o. 94, per fridl.ey C�ity Codc, Sect-ion 214.U42 , the same being 5401 - ' Ccr•��:.r�l Ilvenue N.E. . • . 17. I'Uf>LTC �Ii�/1f�T(dG R(�011f ST F012 A SPECTAI USC f'FRI�iIT_,_ SP,'f75_1_�, QY f3RFDE, INC._: �7o per,m i�, i.he COCIt i IIU��:��r� or=�aii c��Sti rig �� 1 l f�o�rd on part of Lot f3, 11udi tor' s ; E Su h di�r�i s i o n f�o. 9 4 , p e r f r i d 1 e y C�i t y C o d e, S c c t;i o n 2 1 4.U 4 2 , t h c s am e L�ci n g 5403 i i �Central Aven�uc fd.E. � � � � I ��' . ' l�. C'U[�LIC 11�/'�,RII;�: REQU�ST FOR A_SPECIIIL USE PFRh1IT, SP �175-1� ,__BY QRED�_, IM1!C._: . l�o pe��ri�i t �tl�e con t:�i nua�i on of �u� e>:-i s l,i nq bi 1 1 board on LoL 1 , [31 ock 1 , Hars��ad ; /1cid�itio�� 5 per (=rid�ley City Code, Section 214.042 , the samc G801 Fiiyl��ray #G5 IV.E. 1�. i'U[3LTC fiCllf�IflC' ; REQUEST �0� /� SPECIIIL. USE Pf f'��TT, SP ;175-20 , f3Y f�REDL, T1�!C_. : . .---� ___. -- __--. ----------- �fo pei,mi�, i.l�� cont�i��:�-t�i on of an c�xi s t�i ng-b�i I 1 board on Lots 29 und 20 5 B1 ocl: 11 , � Ifa��ilto�i ' s Adcii �.�ion i,o ii�.chanicsvi1le, per Ff�idley City Code, Seccion 214.0!�2, �:he saiiu� bei��g �457 4�th Street Pd.F. 20. f'UBI_IC HEF',I?�P!G: R�QUFST FOR /� SPFCl/1L USE !'ERi�iITy SP ir75-21 , l3Y [3P,FDE, INC. : ---�---- ------,-_�--�-----------�`— l�i�I 1 bo a r d o ri P a��c e 1 3 6 2 0, Se c t i o n T o p�r r n i�t, t h e c o n� �n��a�c�E o n o f a n c x i s t �n g ; 12, per Fr�idley CitS� Code, Section 214.042, �Lhe same bcing 756� Highti�ray ,�GS N.E. ; ; � P�1r. James Bra�tland; representing B►�ede, Inc. , was present� ; MOTIO,�� by David I�arris, seconded by Lindblad, i�ha;t the Planning Corrunission open the Pub.Zic Hearings for requests for Special Use Pcrmits, SP �f75-17, SP �i75-IS, SP #75-19, SP 1175-20, SP �,-'75-21., bt� Brcde; Inc. Up�n a voic� vot_e, a11 voting aye, Chair.man � Harris decl_�:r_ed th� Pub1..i_c liearing oven at 11:55 P.11: , i • . � I A10TION 1�y Dick Harr.is, seconded by Drigai�s, t1�at• the Planning Cornmission r.ol�tinue the requests i�or Speci�l Use Pcrr.�its, ,SP �#75--17, SP. #75-18, 5P ;#75-19, SP 4#75-20, ; SP ;75•-21, b� Iirede, Inc. Upon a show of. hands, Dick Flarris, David Harris, Drigan, . Langenfeld voi-ing aye, Lindl�.Zad and. Scott voting nay, the mot.ion carried. ADJOUR��1ENT: . ' h10T]"ON b� Dr.iJans, second�d by Davi.cl Ilarris, to acljo�r.n. Upon a voi.ce vote, a11 vot:ing aye, Chairrnan Ilarris declar_ed the P1.a.nning Comm.ission meet�ng ot �ugust 6, . . 1975 ad jor��ed at 11:59 P.P7. . � . I - , � . � Respectfully submii;ted, � - ' 1. � ' /'�L,-� 2.�� ;':'�t�-G-7zt��.-.� . . •.�� .,1_.. . . Dorotiiy Evensp�i, Secrei:�try • : � . . . . . . ,�R .. � Planning Coirnnission Meet�•ng - Au�Cust 20, 1975__ _ Page 22 _ • ; : �he same being 8410 Universit�� Avenue N.E. � Public Hearing open. � t3. CQNTINUFD: PUBLIG F1E/lRI�G: RFQUEST FOR A SI'ECTAL USE PCRI�IIT, P #75-14 f1Y- ------------- ------____..__..�----_------ ----_ _—__--_.___ _---- --�:_ ' NAFGEI_E CU7DOOR ADVEflTISING C(i��Pf',i�l': To allo�a the cont;�i��ivation sfing � billboard on Lot 18, Revised Auditor' s Subciivision ��o. 77, per Fridley City Code, �� Sectioi� 214.042, i:he same being 7357 East fliver Road N.E. Public Hearing open 9. CONTINUED: PUL'LIC HEAUIPdG: REQUEST FOR l', SPECIRL USE PERt;IT, SP ��75�75, E'Y NAEGELE OUTf�00R A[)VERiISING COi"PA�dY: To allo,,vi;h� C0111;1P"iUd�1011 of an existiE�� biilboar�� on !ots 1-3g [31ock 9, {�arn�lton 's Adciition to �1ecl�r�nic:v�i11E, per � F'rid7ey City Ca�ie, Section 214.042, the sai7�e be�ing 5452 7tn Si:��eet N.E. i � . Public Flearing open 1Q. CC�NTINIIEI�___PUB!_IG HEl�RING�_REQUEST F�R_ �!,_SPECIRt�USI�_PERft9IT, SP t75-1�, [�Y N/�EGELt OUT()QOR RDi!E{�"�ISIf�G CLiY�('�Ni`: -i-o a.�llo�� the con�Linua�ticn af an �XiS�i'i�lny billbc�ard o� Lot 4, ��uditor` s Subdivis�iar� f�.'•o. 155, pel� Fricfley City Code, S�ct�ran 214.042, the same being 5501 7t.h Street �� E. Puhl�i c Fieai^i ng o�en 1�9c�TTON .bU �ergman, seconded by LangenfeZd, �hat tt�e Plann.ing C_ommission contir.uc� until S��temaer 10, 1975 the req-uests for a Sp�c.i.a1 Use Permit, SP ,�75--13, SP i�75-14, S� #75-Z5,. SP ,#75-Z6, b� Naugele Out.door Advertisii.g Camr�zn�. Upon a voice vote, a1.1 voting a�e, t_11e rnoti�n c�arx'ied un�tn_imous.Z�� 11 . CONTI�!i1rQ. PUGLIC, HEAf:I��G: RF t1�S�i� FOR !1 S('ECIi�L USE PER��tI?"z SF #I5-17, f3Y. _��----- 6REUE �idC. : To al�a;�r t:he corti nua�:ion of �xn exi stinc bi 11 t>oard an �art of Lot 8, l�uci4i'cor's Su�ci�i��ision P�o. 94, per Fr�idley City Code, Sectior� 2�i��.042, the , same beii�g 5401 Cc�n;:t�al Auen��e fd.E. � Publ ic fiearir�g op�r� 1?_. CO[�1-IP��LJ;:D: PU�!_IC HFfi(�IF�G: REQUEST F(��' A SPECI�L USF PERP•1:fT, SP #75-18, 51' Q(t��GF ,� I��C. To a�l�v�,�. �i.l�e COntlrlUa�L10t1 �01 aYl exis'i,inj'bi1�6o�.'rd�ori part ;�z��c�� 8;�.E;udil;or�s Sub�i�,ris-iar; No. �4, per Fridl�y C�i�y Code, Section 214.042, the same L7eing 5403 Gentral Avcr�ue f�.F. � Publ �ic: Hra��ing open � - 13. C�i�T1l��IEi): �'Uf3LIC HEA{t1fVG: I��[�U[:S�I FOR A SPFC��tL USE PLF��+�IT, SI� �#75-19, �31` L�REDC, I,,�^ To a11Qv; �;he conL�r;uation of a�� existing bi�iil�oar•�! on �ot 1 , G�ock f , Narstad Additi�i�, per Fridley� City Cou�, Sec�;ion 2.14.O�i2, the �a�� being 6801 High�A.ay ��65 N.E. � Pubi ic liear�ng open � , 1q. CONTINUE�: PUQLIC HF/1R?�lG: REQUEST FpR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #75-?_0, l3Y ----__ __._—-------—------ ------ ----._._-- _— ---- --.__ f3REUf=, I�IC. : To al 1 oh� thn co��t i nua�ian ;�i an exi sti nq bi 11 board an Lots 29 anc� 3Q, [3�14oi:lc---.l 1 , Ha«��i 1 ton' s l�ddi t�i r�r� to Mecr�<��,i csv i 11 e, per Fri d1 cy C�i ty Code, Sectior� 21�.042, t;he sa��c� b�i��g �457 4tn 5i:rek�t N.E. Public Hear�ng open ,• I - ..,_; - _ � 1ti Planning Commission Meetinq - September 10, 1975 Page 10 Was it not infringing on his economic environment by denying him this use? �' Mr. Scott said that any business you enter into has ce�tain risks. He said that in putting up a power station, which might be a pollutant, so it might, be economically unsound to the people in the area if this was allowed. He said he believed in freedom of expression, but this did not give you the freedom to be offensive. Mrs. Wahlberg said she thought Mr. Scott was e,q°uating health environment with visual po'ilution. Mr. Scott said that was just an off the �,riff statement to show how something could be ;uneconomical as far as environment. ��le said that if the Planning Commission wanted to get into economics , he would be wil`� ing to discuss that. He said his Commission and the Chamber of Commerce had only yone into � general,izat�itin of economics, but not on any particular sign. Mr.. Scott said the problem he had been having w�ith these billboards was in saying yes to some of them and no to some of i;hem, wa, because he felt certain that if the Planning Commission didn't say yes ta enough of them, we would probdu1y .end up in court. He said that what he was try�ing to do tivas to take a position that could be defended in court, if we have to go. He felt this was their responsibility. He didn't tt�ink the City should be put in the position where they have to say yes to any given amount of billboards. He said he wasn't agains�: billboards , and although some billboards weren 't as objectionable as ottiers, he felt there wasn 't enough difference in them to say yes on some and no on some, and defend that position in court. He said his statement had been accepted by the courts in three states , and maybe it could hold up in the .Minnesota courts also, although no one knew that at this time. nfel sai ��'he wanted it noted tha�; in the Human Resources meetin of Mr. Lange d 9 August 21 , on page 4, ��ere was a statement that the Commission felt very strongly � against billboards. Mr. Scott said they had gone through the same discussion that we have had here, bu�' that t�iese were not verbatim minutes. He said there were members of his Commi`ssion who didn't find billboards too offensive, but thPy felt the Cit was in a tra : He said he wasn 'tdenying Naegele the right to cha.11enge us in Y p court, they have ;�hat right, but he was trying to take a stand that would be clefendable in court. Mr. Bergrr�n said his view was that we were not here to decide whether, or not Fridl�y will r will not have billboards. He said the City Code does allow for biil- boards, it j. st happens that the existing billboards are in violation of the City Codcs. , He �aid he � hought the Planning Commission was trying to differenciate between the weightines�` of the violations in each case. He said this particular billboard was only 5 feet ov r the hight requiv�ement and was built in the proper zoning at the time it ��vas cons ucted. This particular billboard was in lesser v�olation than some of the others � have considered. PON A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR APPROVAL, Harris, Wahlberg, Bergman, LangenfeZd voting aye, Scott nay, the motiori carried. _ 3. CONTINUED: PU6LIC NEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, P #75-1 BY NAEGELE OUTDOOR ADVERTISING COMf'ANY: To allow the continuation o � existing billboard on Lot 18, Revised Auditor's Subdivision No. 77, per Fridley City Code, Section 214.042, the same being 7357 East River P.oad N.E. public hearing oper�. - - Planninq Commission Meetinq - September 10, 1975 Page 11 � Mr. Shaw said that at no time was Naegele Outdoor Advertising Company threatening• anybody with anything. We are trying to resolve a situation, both the sign companies and the Planning Commission. He said he was opposed to two of the stipulations. One was that the sign be removed when the property was developed, and the other that the sign be removed at the termination of the lease date. He said he knew the zoning had been changed in a number of areas. He said he didn't think anyone in this community, either here now, or to come, co�ald afford to come inand make an investm�nt, and looking at the whims (he used this word. loosely) of changes in zoning, would want to be faced with having to tear down their commercial enterprise. He said that was what had happened to the sign at 8410 University Avenue. This was built in the proper zoning, and now that the zoning had been changed, we are supposed to tear down this sign. Mr. Scott said there were risks in any business, and this was not a whim. The sign ordinance was enacted in 1969, which was six years ago, to allow for amortization, which your comp�i�y does not recognize. He said that having a commercial building rezoned to a diff�rent use was less risky than having the land where a billboarc� �aas located being rezoned. He felt that the citizens have the right to change their minds. Mr. Bergman said he was trying to taE;e into consideration the point made by Mr. Shaw, He said this sign was corstructed in 1969 and the lease ends in 1984, so this was 15 years. Mr. Shaw said he still felt that you couldn' t do business if you were subject to the whims of rezoning. He said he felt the ordinances were passed to protect the health, safety and welfare of the community and not to cause a risk for any business. STAFF REPORT Location: 7357 East River Road Sign Permit Date: 10/19/60 Owner: Naegele Comments: Lease runs from year to year, expires this year 10-22-75 1 . Height (25' ) 10' Base /22' Top 2. Area (300) 12' x 25' Single Face *3. Distan�e Bet. Signs (500' ) 70' from sign that will be removed � 4. Setback from Street R/W Lines (30' ) Meets Code --�30' *5. Distance from Street Intersection (500' ) 340' to Glen Creek Road and E. R. Road *6. Distance from Residential Uses (500' ). Residential across E.R.R. and to Sout�� 100' to R-1 district 7. Condition Status (All Metal ) Steel & Fluorescent **B. Zoning (C-2S, M-1 , M-2) C-1S *Non-conforming to existing ordinances � **Non-conforming to zoning requirements . Chairman Narris reviewed the staff report, noting that this sign did not meet 4 of the eight criteria. fie said it would meet the distance between signs when the other sign was removed. He asked Mr. Clark what that meant. Mr. Clark said there were two Naegele signs in this area, and they have agreed to remove one sign and have Plannin� Commission Meeting - September 10, 1975 Page 12 ' not applied for a Special Use Permit for that sign. � ' Mrs. Wahlberg asked if there was a date set for the removal of the other sign. Mr. Shaw said the limbo situation that they have been operating in made it difficult . to make any decisions until we know what was going to happen to these Special Use Permit requests. Mr. Scott said that what Mr. Shaw was saying was that if this sign was allowed to remain, they would remove the other one. Mr. Langenfeld said it was his feeling that by putting a termination date on all these billboards , that what they were doing was kicking the billboard companies out of Fridley. Mr. Bergman said he didn 't feel that way at all . He said he felt that what they were saying was that the Fridley City Code allovas for billboard construction, and they can built billboards or retail billboards within the provisions of the code. Mr. Langenfeld said the lease on this billboard expires on October 22, 1975. What are we going to do w: �h this one? Mrs. Wah1bery said this was a year to year lease. � Mr. Clark said that what Mr. Langenfeld was alluding to was that if the longest lease date, was say 1990, and they all had the same stipulation on the lease date, then by the year 1990 billboards would cease to exist. Mr. Bergman said that would only be those who tivere a-.non-conforming use. Mr. Shaw said they could construct billboards according to the present code and zoning, and in five years these could be non-conforming due to code changes, and they would be back in the same situation. Mr. Shaw said he noted that this sign was too close to a residential area, but the A & W stand and the Big Wheel al�� were within l00 feet of a residential area. He said the reason there were two signsso close together was because, at one time, these signs were owned by two different companies , and Naegele had ownership of both now through acquisition of another company. • MOTION b� Scott, seconded by Bergman, that the Planning Commission close the Public Hearing on the request for a Special Use Permit, SP #75-14, by Naegele Outdoor Advertising Company. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the Public Hearing cZosed at 9:59 P.M. MOTION by Langenfeld, seconded by Scott, that the Planninq Commission recommend to Council denial of the request for a Special Use Permit, SP #75-I4, by Naegele Outdoor Advertising Company, to a1J_ow the continuation of an existing bilZboard on Lot Z8, Revi�ed:.�udi.tar'.s Subdivision No. 77, per Fridley City Code, Section 214.042, the same being 7357 East River Road because this billboard vioZates 4 out of the 8 criteria, and these were such that there would be no benefit in continuing this particular sign. Mr. Scott said he was in favor of this motion because we wish to recognize the roll which planning and zoning play in our municipal efforts to guide future development ' of land so as to ensure a pleasanter and more economical environment iri which our residents may live and work, and base this exclusively on aesthetics on the ground that the pleasant appearance of our community has a direct and beneficial effect on property values and on the well-being of our residents, and this inevitably promotes the g�nera1 welfare and to quote from the Environmental Commission goals and objectives of their August 13, 1975 meeting , "to encourage productive harmony between man and his environment and assure for all people in the City of Fridley a safe, healthful , productive aesthetically and culturally pleasing surrounding". Mr. Bergman said that he was generally in tune with the motion, however he felt Planninq Commission Meetinq - September 10, 1975 Page 13 it was abrupt, and we would bene�it from some consideration from a business view, and he would be more amenable to the motion if it expressed some reasonable time for reaction from the petitioner. He said he felt that the Planning Commisfiion and the City Administration were somevrhat tardy in addressing these, and the lease did . expire on this sign in 12 days, and he thought the petitioner should have more time. Mr. Scott said he didn' t feel this was an abrupt decision when the petitioner has already had six years since the sign ordinance was passed. Mrs . Wahlberg said this sign was constructed in 1952 and rebuilt in 1960, and she did concur that they have had six years notice that this sign might have to be removed. Mr. Harris said that he felt these two signs did nothing to enhance this area. UPON A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR DENIAL, Scott, Harris, Wah]berg, Langenfeld voting aye, Bergman nay, the motion carried. Chairman Hat �,is declared a recess at 10:10 P.t�. and reconvened the meeting at 10:33 F.M. � �. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: RE UEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #75-15, NAEGELE OUTDOOR ADVERTISING COMPANY: To allow the continuation of an existing billboard on Lots 1-3, Block 9, Hamilton 's Addition to Mechanicsville, per Fridley City . Code, Section 214.042, the same being 5452 7th Street N.E. Public hearing open. � STAFF REPORT Location: 5452 7th St. N.E. Date of,lSiqn Permit: 2/6/67- Rebuilt in 1971 Owner: Naegele Comments: Lease expires 6/30/79 *1 . Height (25' ) 25' Ba e / 37' To -� 25' Above center line of I .694 *2. Area (300' ) 14%x 49' 3. Distance Bet. gns (500' ) Meets Code --� 500' , 4. Distance fro Street R/W Lines (30' ) Meets Code ---� 30' ^ *5. Distance F om Street Intersection (500' ) Z00' *6. Dista"nce rom Residential Uses (500' ) 65' N. of R-3 Parking lot, 190' to _ R-1 District, 180 ' W. to R-3 parking 7. Condition Status (all metal ) Steel and Florescent **8. Zoning (C-2S, M-1 , M-2) C-2 *Non-conforming to existing ordinance **Non-conforming to zoning requiremet Ghairman Harris review the staff report and said this was a V shaped sign. Mr. Shaw said that Naegele only had two size signs , a 12' x 25' and 14' x 49' , and that all their signs were magna face bulletin, and were notated every 60 days. i �� : : �. �- ; � , ; � � , � R[GULf1R COUPJCIL I•iLE7IP;G Of SEPTCh?DER 22, 1975 PAGE 10 ' :3 ' • � 't . . — (; � I NEW [�USIr�FSs CC!�;Tltit;E:D � : _�— _ I, �: � , ' f:o:mcilman areider asked if th� easement appeared on t:he Plat P1aps and the • f � . � Assistant City Engincer said the easement appeared on the title and the . .' ; tax stateu:ent. ' � : . �, � . `fhe City f•'ana2er• s�id the current consideration ti•rou'Id not need any action ' ° since the ��ariance in the rear yard t•ras not h�ing considered. - F. � ' - i ' �1QTIOh by Councilman Pitzratrick to receive 1:he min�rt.es of thc Anpeals � Comi�issioi� G�eeting of Aunust 12, 1975,. Secor�ded hy Cour�ciit•roman KUI:OWS{;1, � : Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, hiayor t�ee declared the moEion carried j � . ' t��`it�rtir�ot��y. ; � REGEIVII,G Z`f�" F11P;U�(ES 0� T!IF P(yRY.S F�Pii Rf.CREA110�� CO'�t�11SS10!J QF l�UGUST 25, 1975 ; .� �------ -- - --_ ________. . ------- -- . __ --- -----�_��_____ , • DISCI;SSIG,! C(?:'�CEf:�;I,iu I��1t;TE:�,Ar10E. Ot ICE Af;n n}F IOCI:f:Y P{?OG�'P,rt: - � � C:e�t��'rllnan Fit��Natr7ck �aid�i�e� 1`�ad recc>��rE�d, a �cy�:,c�s�t from a rr�ea�taer of the - . � �tockeJ Associati�n to appear bcf�re tf,� f.:ouncil' at i:Pic� upcomir�g Cionference l�eetir,c,.. He exp'�incd thaf: anotf�er� topic- �va.s reyunsted for discussion, �ut . ' : i;f�is cAu"!d also be taker� care� of that tir�e� i � � MCt'�xf��l by Couricilman �itzpa�ricE: i;.o �t,b'fe the cc�nsiclerat�ion of the mainten«rice . of the ice and the hockey Prograi�s �•rith clisc«s<:�ic>n i.aking place at the upcominc� ` � conference meeting. Secunded by Co-�ancil�•.a��7an (�iil;o��rsl;i. Upon a voice vote, 'c.�l � t vo�ing a.ye, P•layor ��ee dcc:lared the rrca�:ior� carried iananio�ously. ' � ; kEQUEST FOR A SFECIAC. U5E f'ERht?T, Sf' ;'.�75-2's, BY PE'ILR J. LQ';G: PF�: f�Rt6I_EY , . � -- ; C1TY COD�, SECTIQ;; 205_051 ,_2,A, T^�iLLOI!TI1E CU�'S7RUG11G?2 OF A SfGO^'� � �_.__-__-- ---- --- ------- -- ----- fICGFSSIIftY EUILDIt;u, /� 13' x 22' CnR��'r, 0(d i.OT 11 , �t OCK 4, R10E ChFEI: 7ERF;1ICE , ', . _...-------- ------ ___.____-_.-- -_ _. ._,_..__.____..__.__-- _--- : F'LF�T 6, TNE SA�SC EEIt�U G721 tiAUISOi+ ST2FET hl,F _-- ---- --,-_____-- ----- - � The Assistant City Engineer exp1ained that there ti•�as a recomro�nded stipulation `: that t�7is construci.ion nat be �asc4 fior �. f�crr.e �cc�Apai.ion, Ile said it ti•roulei • , be in order to apFrove the sptxciai u5e permit with i:his sLipulal:ion. • s . ' • i � A�i01lUN by Counci�Ii7ian B�-eider to �pp��ove i:he s��ecial use permii: as i-e�ues�.ed . hy t4r. Peter J. I_ong for G121 fiadison Street. id.F. ��ith the st.ipulation i:hat , � 1 the accessory building not be used far a hor�ie c,ccupai:i�n. Seconded by Council- � � ' �°ror.�an Kul:oi�:ski, Upo;� a voice vof.e, all voting aye, 1layror Pic�e declai�ed tltie ; . • ' motion carried unanin,r,r,sly.. • . i" � i � : � REQUEST FOR A SPEC.IP,L USE PEP�41T., S!� ''75 13 PY IvAkGE! F OU7DOUR A�l'ERTISI�:G � � f - CO�i°A;Y' �70 ALL01 T4� LO�dTI�dUFal)C'. �F P�J CXISTt�'G ;'1LLl30AFD �J.{'(�F2C.[t 3000,____ - -- lt1 1Nf t�l•! QUt`_k�tl' "� lh�_ „'1! QUAftTER. C7;C' I'( CF,� � JUiii�l6.f�ACfiS. 0�SECTIO;! • � 2;i-2�0, PER FR1U'_EY CI7Y C(�UF, StC710�J 21�+.(142, 1HE SAt�iE [3E1tdG £,��10 • � ; j UNIVERSIfY%`5VE(iUE fJ.[. :__ -T--~� � ^ _�— � ...._�___._ -- • � i • MOlIOfd, by Councilt��oman Kukot•lski to set a public hearing for the rec?uest for • - . � special use permit SP ;',�75-13 on I�love��ber 10, 19i5. S�conded Ly 4ourcilman . � � , � Startiralt. Upon a vo�cc vote, all voting aye, Mayor P,ee decl�red the motion t. i • carried unanimously. t • , t ; � " � REQU[ST FO" A SPECIAL USF PER,•�IT, � "75- (?Y hJl1�Gf_LE OUTD�OR ADl'FR7JSiPlG ` � � CO(�F�f�lJl' lU ALL(�d �N� C(`:l I 'li�1IG, � EXISTIP(� I;II L�,�f�f� Oi! I.OT 13, P.[- • ' ' , _._ __ - - -- -- - ___� ---=----------- - --- ------ ' • V1S�.0 (�.�U1TOf?'S SUI�DI�'iS10,� i;0, 77, PEF< �RIDLEY CITY CbDE, SCCTIOF� 214,042, � E t • 711E Sf�l•1:: [�EI(;G 7:;�7--F.11�T RI1'ER R��AU. ttE. r ' � _ i . ti l \ P1QT10�� by Coemcila,oman I:u{;o�vs�a 4.c set the publ ic hearinn on i:he matter of � � 1 the req��est for the special use per�r�it SP n75-T4 for �ovemher T0, 1�75. . k ; 5econde�d b y Co�mcil�u��n Starwalt. U pon a vaice votc, atl votin g a,yc, t�ayor � �� ' ' ° Nee declared the r�otio�� carried unanimously. � Y '� ' , � ` � �4, ; . . • t i , � � • � . . . E. � R � � ' . � .3 • � 1 � a � . ; ` � __ ._ . . _ • -... ..- - - - • . � � _a s.�?�.,c � i r . ?,0.', i� : � I ; � REGUi.Ar', COUf;CIC hiC[TIiiu Of" t�G1��N��L2 17, t975 PAGE 11 ; • � �i ` � _ ___._..,.______._.�_----- - - ---- �t C0�l�ID�RATIG�� OF P,PP�20'1r�,L bF flt�;l11. Fl.l1T S113U1V1SJON P.S. 1�I5-�02, [3Y LF?F fIEP1RIKSE�J, i� , --� -- --� i- -;; -� r . --- -. . _. � .---... --; ; - --, ,: -- __ _..__.__� --- ------- �� ' G,�rEkP�ll_Y I (.�(�TEf) l�Si �i{' E�1ST i,iUfR RI,Au /\�JU �(,UCfi �r LOG:1PJ f,t(Y,4�fr'�Y�,TAf�LE(i OGjOEtC,RiG_ i975��— ___.,__ ._----. ____ — � ; h!OTIOi� hy Councilman Qreider to table this item until tne nex.t mectincl. Seconded 1 by Councilm�,n Fitzp�trick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Ptayor Nee declared the motior carried unanirnously. �{ ; � � R[CESS: • � � Mayor i�ee called a recess at 11:30 P.M. ( ' � 1 RECONVEtJFD: • � : ' Idayor Nee reco�vened the meetirg at 11 :47 P.f1. , � ; s , . • � , i CONSILCRIlTIO"1 OF A°�P,OVhL OE SPE(;IAL US[ PERMIT P.[QUEST SP di75-17, al' aREDE, INC. � ' 5401 Gf.fd1-F:F�L AVEPJUE , ' nr�a � . i � ,. , � COi;SIUEP�,TIO?1 (�f�.PPF,O'dF,l.. U� 5PECTAL USE PERI4IT REQUEST SF !`75-18, QY �R[DE, INC. . 5403 CEt,`ffif'',L A`,'i:i,Uc. —_ - ------ : � COtdSIDEF;�1T?0�! Q� r�rPF.OVtiL ^v� SPECiAL USE PERMIi' RFQUEST SP #75-i9, QY 6RECE, INC. ' ' 6E01 HIG'Ii�,tiY ;Ei; f�.F. • ' - ----- — � , i ; i ...- C01�i]L'L-R�.T1C`� OF ��P•^P7�'�.L C� iP�CiAL USE PERi✓IT R[QUEST So �75-02 oY 3REDE, IMC. L 5�i57 �lth STREE7 i.F. � i ' ' � ; � � CC�P��,CER;7Iui� OF l;r^P!?OVAL GF�S�=tCTA� USF P[ki�11T REQUF�� `75-21, BREDE ,PJC. � J 756� fiiGl!`•;,'�l'_-G5 (v.E. —_ ---- � COt��IDERA.T10��'OF APP�O!';L 0� SCECIAL L'�F PEP.'•S1 i RE II[$T Sf' ;` �- NA�� ' � Q 7. 09 BY ��_E 'JU'(v��r2� (�D;�Ef'tl�:�i„':�CC,'iPfi:`,'Y 7201 HI a��'/�'f�'7G ir'.E.-`___ _ • , �_ 4 CONSIDFf'4TI0^J OF AP?ROVAL 0�= Sr^EC?AL USF ?�R'�iIT R�QUES� S? �75-�0, tr�EGELE OUT- � DUUf�F;U'tt IZ�1$i�v� (.0.'i!'i",(;Y, 6;_� �':i'�!ES7,�jTY�,:"=f,Ui. N.t._---�- ----- , CO(�SIDER11TI0:'�! OF FlPPP,OVPL 0� SPECTA� �US= PFfiuiT i2EQUEST SP. �75-11 . 1��;.4[GELE � ' �` .�------------------------------------ --- -- ; OUTL�UQR ADVF(Z�f1SIili; CO;;?F,i�;Y, 51 till'�,h:!r;'( I.Gy4. , � � '�___'_"__'_._.__'_ _' _"_„ ' , f COt�S1DE:R;1T10i1 Ot APPRO�l�.L OF SPFCIAL UiE PE(?i�tIT R[QUEST SP =r,'S-12, i��EGEI.E vUT- , ' DOOR A.�iV;:ftTISIi1G Cl�'�?;,��Y 93 H?�,! %�Y I.i�9�1 � � CONSID;:R��TIO;J OF l�PPROVIL OF �FrC1AL USr f'ER;`•iIT RFQUES'f ,�iP `c'75-•13, NA:�FLF , r � •-- -�-- -- - ----- OUTL�Oi: AD'JfR�iIS'��G CO3':�',"��y�-<�--- , ;_�,\,�T; „ -`,.i -- U Ut�II�: . �1 P�.E��;U �,.k. C.7(tS1!`Ef;ATIGN UF I1PP;�OV^�L OF SPr:CIAI. US� PER'•lI7 REQUEST SP '•'75-15, f;AEGE�E Ui;T�i700^�l�)1'cR`i1`.ilili; C��:•.,r'„Y, �;�?%Tii STR�EI;��.E. ----� ------ MOT10N bY Ccuncilman BreiC�Cl' t.0 CO��PCC1VP�y aperove �nnflil� U;c P�rr�its, '{��n; , �fll if�rou�h ;:'21 , as listei ab�ve, �,nd dclete t,:o of the Piar,i�i�,g Ce,•��iis,ions � stipi�lations: 1. l.l�en th;s ac�vertisirn� si�n �cas destroVed er u�n,age:l tay s�: � � act of nature, t��n�1�11i;m or �Cl��r e;eans, this sic;n cannot be rep:ired or rcbuilt and trili have to he rc,�ovc�cl. ?. The e�pirlti0!1 dates of thes�� billboards h�� ' j co••tern;inatic� a�ith s?yr.��ci �eac;�s ��rit�, a fiti�e year maxir,um. Seconced by Cour�ci�- �• i r�oman �:u{;o;�lski for• discussion. , ' , Counciln�ar [3reicter said f�c «ould li�:c t� state hi� re�sons fnr �•�ai�tinr� these i dc�clions: ]. (;uti� s'�ipulation_; refcr !.o tf�r_ co�n�l,�tc cli�:i;n�tion ot' all bill- i ; ��Odt'l�5 lil {�f'lti�l'}�. 111 LIti' tl�lil�i, �ti' ShcCi, i S1.'Ci f10 C�i��:1J;111tdt)C i0 tF1Q l,l�y' tQ . havc t.iicse ir,�i� ic±u,�l bi l ll na��is. I'e statc�� thti ?ic�in ;�i �.�s,E;eci��11Y ,ive; hii^ ' a ��r•ahlnn - f'r•ovisirn o� ttc Orc;in:;;icc, stltinq th;: bi]ll•o�;r<is had to t,^ rcino�,�cd. Th^ c�ttu�r iic�r, ;f a siqri i:, cicstroycc� or d�m,��cd, ctc. iL is not. rc{�laced. I ' unccrst.�ind thc person ��n;ci•i not bc al�t� ti, rcrbu�id it. ' ; ; ' 1 ?0� ' . � ; , i . �� REGULflR COUPICIL 11EETI��G OF NO�/Eh1(3ER 17, 1975 PAGE 12 . • , Councilman Fitzpatrick said he agrees with Councilman Rreider except without , those stipulati��ns, �re are not reallY ��pin-oving the Plar�nin� Commissions �, �' recommendation:. He said he fcels if thcy had not put in those stipulations, they r��y have loekcd at some cf i:hem Jiffcr�ntly. In some c<�ses, he stated, I ' feel they apprc,ved thcr�i because they iiad that lease expiration date. � ' Councilt-�oman Y.ukowski said she also a�rees vrith Councilmari areider or. the ' j expiration date. She does not like to se� that stipulation in the motion. � She said, in regard to the second sti�ulation, ti•�here it st.�tes that tnis special � i • use permit is to be revieo-;ed anr.ually, she rrould like to change the word review � � ' to inspect. � ,' The Public 4lorks Director said he would like to clarify the one stipulation in � ' , that it might be a mute point as the sig:, o��r,ers declare �hese billboards legal i non-conforminy uses and 4;e already have the section in the zaning code that ^ addresses legal non-conforrning uses, ��hich actually indicates that if it is des- � J • troyed, basically 50" of it's structural capacity, it will be removed. I do not ; think that one s�ipulation is applicable. - � The C.ity Attcrney said that is correc:. He said h� i� not sure ti•rhat t,e Planning Con�mission means by an annual rev�ei•r ot this special use pern.�t. Seems 4 • � to him that Ad^�inistration ��ould revie��r the condition oi' the sign, v:ou1d be more � dppropriate. One other thought, ne said, thai perf�aps the special use permit � . should run for the length of time the present lease er.ists. Then the Siqri Company ' � would have to come back te the Council for another permit before they could sign � a future lease. He said he aqrees �•lith Councilman Breider's loqic that they ought not to have a definite date i•rhen they have to he removed, hut it miyl�,t be•reasonable to have the existing special use permit contirue until the lease expires. J The City hlananer said ;hat the difference is the quPstion ef does the Council �•�ant ' to Fave a revie�•� prccess aGain ti-�hen the leasP ccmes up. The Planr�ing Commissien came out nega�ive, th,�y �•�ant tr�e signs r�er�oved. The Council could teke the oation � that the special �ise p�rmi;; 4;�uld exist up to the pr�sent`date of the lease and �-� then a re-application of the 'special �se permit ti•iould be required. Council , at �° ihat time, could reass�ss it or review it. . f.�7! i Council�-�oman kukoti��ski said that some of the sin,n companies would then be coming � � back every year. � . - . 4 The City hianager said tP�at is the decision the Council wil? have to make - if vou �ti�ant to revie�•r thesi de{�er�iir,g on G�13!;ging ti�,ies. htayor hee said a,�d alse, f if we want tiie Courcil dei�ied the riyl�t to review them. ' � Councilman Ereider said he ��;ould clarify his motion to read: j . i 1. 41hen t!iis lot w�s ceveloped, the advertising si�i; located on it ��rill be re- ' � i: moved. 7his one, he said, I agree to. I think it is standard throughout. .' � I � � 2. When this advertisir•�g sign is destroyed or damared by an act of natur�, • vandulism, �r othe�� means, this sign cannot be rei�airec+ er rebuilt and will ' have to be renoved. This Item I rrould likc: to havc removed. � ' 3. This Special Use Permit suhject to ve�rly review. This is standard. I ►,�ould ! 90 alang s:itf-� Council•„cman Ku�:�,:vski to change review to inspect. ; � 4. Titis biili�oai•d be mair�taincd in yood quality coi�dition. i 5. Tl�is billboird �e rcr.�oved on or ��fot•e the ex{,iration cf the lease on (date). , ' Councilman Esreide�- •��p1,�i;icd tha� this iLem varies throu�hout.. Some cases � � .. in five years and oiiic��• cases ii� 9/77 or tivhatcver, k'e could ch�nge tt�:s to reud: Special Us� Permit to coinc;d+� with the term of the present lease. � � Councilman Fit.��trir_'r, ;�id that he could sup��o;-t that motion except t�e has � trou�lc with thr, sti�,i:l�tion that: s,ys t�hcn t:hc sian is �!c�tr.oy�d in a zoninq ' ' h�hich is a noiicorforming use - H,�e have ihat siipulation on everythiiig, not only � '� sict��s. � Cauncilman (3�•eid�r sai�i �(�al is �r1iy he is dcl�ting it� it is already covcred. __..._. .__..__ .. ._..___ . _.._ .. . _ � J � � � ; t Y � • 1 ! , R[GULAR COUt�CIt. MEETI�IG Of f�OVCPt(3fR 11� 1975 PAGE 13 f " Mr. Y,rai9 Lof�ui�t, representing ha�9ele /ldvertlsing, said he wauld not mind the termination of the Special Use Permit a± that time, but if the billboard is not in the way of develop�.ient, t.his is two different things. Councilman �reider said to channe Item !11 to read: if this lot is developed, the Special Use Permit e;cpires. � : The City 1•tana9er said that �re vrere still not quite c�ear on Item �3 - regarding �j the �•rords, subject to revie�v. After some discussion. Council�•roman Kuko�aski said she rrould a9ree to keep the word "revicw" in the stipulation. . Councilnan Breider's motion vrould then read: MOTIO�d by Councilman Ereider to collectively approve Special Use Permits, Item ;I11 ' through l.�21, 4�ith the felloaring stipulations: 1. When this lot is developed, the Speciai Use Permit will expire. � 2. Deleted. � 3. Tl�is Special se Permit subject to yearly review. 4. 7his billboard be maintairied in good Guality condition. 5. The Special Use Permit to coincide with the expiration term of the present , lease. Mayor Nee said because he has som� advertisin� interesYs, he �•:ould abstain. Seconded by Council��:on�an Y.uko��iski. Upon a Roll Cal? Vote, Councilman Breider voted aye, -"- . Councilman Y.uko,vski veted i,ye, Councilman Fitz��atrick voted nay, Councilman Starwalt " voted Aye and h'ayor ttee abstainec+. Plotion carried. } Councilr„Un Starrralt said he felt that since changes in the stipulations ti•;ere made, � � he felt soraeone si�ould yo back to tne Planning Co,nmission tvith our reasons for . � --} doing so. i��a,yor i�ee asked Councilr�ar Star�•;slt if he ti�ouid agree to do this, and • Cour�cilman Star�•�alt said that he wauld. COP�SID;RATiO�! OF APFkO'dAl Of' SPECIAL USc PER��IT f:EGUEST SP �75-14, FdAtGELE OUT- . DUUR E�U\�EhTISI;iG C(?�':r;,';�', 7357 F;�Si RI!'f:R Rvl',D, �;.E: � Pi0TI0� by Councilman Fit�patrick to concur w�th the Planning Conunission's recoT��endat�ion to deny this Special Use Permit. • Councilr�an Fitzpatrick Explained that his objection to this is that he feels that kind of si�n is out of character �vith the street it is en. He said he is surprised they pirt such a high value on that sign. Mayor Nee said he t•�ould say it is a valuable sign. He asked if there r�as a second on this motion. CouncilHoman Kukowski seconded the r.,otion. Counciin�an Star�•,alt said i�e �:ould li{:e to speal: aqainst this motion for the same reason that hiayoi- Nee is tryieg to ma4;e a nic.e slo�,v thoroughfare of East River Road. Mayor Nee said this ��ould require three votes. ' � � Upon a roll call vote, Counciln:an [�reid�r voted "lay, Councilman Fitzpatrick voted � Aye, Councilman St�11'tJ��L ��oted (�ay, Council��;oman Ku4;owski voted Nay and Piayor Nee • abstained. The P10TI0�� failed. F:OTION hy Coimcilman Greider te a;�prove the S�i�cial Use Permit �,�ith the original ` stipulations. Seconded by Councilwon,an Ku{.��.ski. ' 7he City htanaqer pointcd o��t t.here t�ras a pi�ohlcm Cecause the lease expired in Octob�r of ;5�75. The qu��tion is are you thinking uf extendir.c� a new lcase or the , it��n wili ee��m back to ��cu agair in any case. 7he City Atic,rnr.y said ?h;t tha Cit,y Pi;�n,��er's �mint is ��cli taken, If there is no current 1t�,�se one ot� itiao thin<�s h,��, to h�ip�,�n. Cit,hi�r it has t.c be for the term of �� nc��t lc,�se, a�hich is �n�kr,c�•rn io the Couii�i� , or for a fixcd period af timc. -•.. _.._____..__..________.. _.___._.._._M--.....�_... ..---- -.•---._...�_ _..-----._.._. .._ ..___.._.._._. , _ _.. . ._.. .._ ....._ .. ..._. "g``�"i'�'�� .,� ,. , . i ��r . . ; . � ; � � REGULAR COUT�CIL MEETIf�G OF t�OV[Fif3ER 17, 1975 PAGE�4 • � • � ` � Mr. Lofquist commented that he did not know rnc�n it expired, but he assumed they had a five ycar lease. The City Manager asked the Councii if it ►•rould be realistic for the Council to renew this in thrce years. � Councilman Eireider �aid he rrould change the stipulation ,','5 to read - three year � lease. Upon a roll call vote, Councilman Fitzpatrick voted Aye, Council�voman Kukoi•rski voted ��ay, Cour,cilman Breider voted Aye and Councilman Star��lt voted Aye. hfayor Nee abstained. 7he �'OT;Ci� carried. COI�SIDEf?ATIO?I OF APPF'OVAL OF SP[CIIIL USE PER��IIT REQUEST SP 4175-OII; flAEGELE OUT- • bUD�{t riUV[RTISI�;G COi��FI',ilY,53150 cF{ST R1Vi.R ROI�D N.E. h10TI0N by Councilrnan Fitzpatrick to concur ti•�ith the Planning Commission for denial of the Special Use Permit SP ;�75-OB. Seconded by Councilvroman KukotJski. Upon a roll call vote, Councilman 6reider voted aye, Councilman Star�•�alt voted aye, Council- man Fitzpatrick voted nayand Councilwoman Kukowski voted naY, h;a;�or Plee abstained. DtOT10l1 fails. MOTIO�d by Councilman areider t.e adopt. the Special Use Permit �'75-OII, �•rith the exception of f�aving only three stipulations. Seconded by Councilman Starwalt. Upon a roll call vote, Councilman Starti;�alt voted A�e, Councilman Fitzpatrick voted Nay, Councilt•:oman Ku4:o�•�ski voted P,ye and Councilman areider voted Aye, htayor P;ee abstained. MOTIO�� carried. � � COP�SIDERATIO�J OF AQATE,�1E�iT OE fdU15AP;CE AT 101 CRO'r!N RO.AD � The Public lJorks Director er.plained that this is a snow fence �•rhich runs along the r�est property line of 101 Cro�rrn Road and extends into a puElic right-of-�•!ay of � Crown Road. He said that at this time, the manner in v;hich ti�e fence is installed, is in violatier ot a zoning code which calls f�r a 25' triancle in the souths��est .� � corner for a v�suat safety con��rol zone. This �:as bronaht to our attention re- � gardin9 the hazards along Ptain �treet. At this point, the zoning code is in ��'S ' violation and it does present a nuisance in that the Ci4y is liable for anv types of accidents {:L•at could occur there. The property o�•rner is present. He fee�s sno�a being dumped on h;s property causes him maintenance problems. �I�,� Public P�orks Director said that there are t��io ��ays �:e can preceed. One is to p��oceed . • with litigation regarding the filinq of the citation and then that would result in a judge deciding to have the fence removed. The other is outlined in Secti�n 110 of the City Code - The Counc�l direct City forces to aoate the nuisarce. 4Je woul d 1 i ke to try to cooperate �•ri th tPie pro�erty o�•rner. Ftayor Nee asked if we have ever enforced that provision of the Ordinance else�•�here. The F'ublic 4lorks Director said in t��o instances this summer this provision was enforced. One regarding trees blocking visior. and ti�e cwner did cooperate, and the other a hedge that ��:as blocking vision and they also cooperated. The prcperty o�•m er of 101 Crc,vn Road said that he has lived there since 1967. and thcre has never• been an accident since th�t time. He said it is not traveled tiiat often. He also explained that the reason for the snow fence was to keep the mud, salt and ti•reeds from depositing in his yard. The City hianager said the point should be brouqht up that this gentlemen !'iled a coriplaint aqainst the City and the Judqe a�•rarded in favor of the City. 11s pointed out, we could procced throuqii the coin�ts again, or if you fcel thc probla�� ur9ent enough, you could issue an order for af�atement action thit ti•lould expedite this. � I Also, if you do not �ti�ish to ta4:e any action, you could jusC receive the repor�t. � Mayor hee s�id, as he understands it, the p��ciperty oarner has received a summons \ and asl:ed thc ��roperty o��ner if he understaz�ds Lhat there is a law that provides that. The pruperty o�vner s�id he dicl not c?re if it did or not, he ti�nuld go to �ail. "�tlyor P;c•c asked him if thcre +�ould be a possihil �ty of �,�orking out an . agrec�nent to acqui��c an e.iscmcnt. Tlie property owner said that he w�uld not. � 7he City hl.ina�c�� s��id, ac he �ointed out, the Council only has to receive this info�•mation, th��y do r�ot havc to act on i�. MOTIOIJ l�y Councilti,•on�,in Kukoti��ski ta r��r.c�ive thc report of Ah�tement of Nuisance ; rt 101 Cr�t•:n Rc�.�cL Sccondi�d hy C.ounc:ilr,;,�n Stir�v�ilt. U��on .� voicc votc, all . Yoting aye, Playor (1rr i!rcl.�rcd the mution c.�rricd unanimously. , '