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ADDRESS �� 1( ,�,,,-c�.._,;.-�.,.�;—' �s�.c,�-� DATE � /ZG' ��'
PLANNING COf�i(�IISSION: P.H. DATE.�" �`��� APPROVEU DTSAPPROVED
DATE N0.
CI1'Y COUNCIL: P�H. REQ'D DATE.�_ NO
CITY COUNCIL: APPROVED DISAPPROVED DATE NO
STIPULATIONS:
NAME '�G_S T,�'� �I, �fj��'ozz� FEE_ �� `�-^ RECEIPT NO_ � f �
STREET LOCATION OF PROPERTY_ �� �� ��- ,,,�,t.,,r �
LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY_ �s �� ��- � °"' �- l� IZ�,,-.-� ��3"
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PRESENT ZOP�ING CLASSIFICATION� ( _ EXISTING USE OF PROPERTY '7��,�,,,��,��
ACREP,GE OF PRUPERTY DESCRIBE BRIEFLY THE PROPOSED TYPE OF ,USE AND
IMPR���EMENT_��,, � ��
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Has the present applicant previously sought ta rezone, plat, obtain a l�at split or
variance or special use permit or� the subject site or part of it? �es no.
t�hat was requested and �vhen? ;� ���..�--
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7h� undersigned understands that: (a) A list ofi all residents and awners of property
within 300 feet must be attached to this application. (b) This application must be
si gned by al 1 owner•s of the property, or ar� expl anati on gi ven �vhy thi s i s not ti�e
case. (c) Responsibility for any de�Pect in the proceedir,gs resulting from thP failure
to list the names and addresses of all residents and property owners of property ir�
question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, sho�.�ving the �
fio1loN�ing: 1. NorLh direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lc�t,
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and fr�ont and side setbacks.
�. Street namese 5. Location and use of adja�ent �xisting buildings (within 300
feet). �
The undersigned hereby declares that all the i'acts and regre,sentations si;ated in
this appl�ication are true �nd correct. ,'�
DATE � /�� ��� �/ , S I GNA1 U�E�� ��-^�
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P�NNING �!NU ZONING FOitl�1
NUMF3ER ��� '����� ��; TYPE OF I2rQUEST
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APPLIC/WT'S S�GNATUItI: � .._..,�`, • Rezoning
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Address ,--�/ �r ;��J i��: � i� - % �4:-� Iu�-�'' � r�^'�_� Special Use Permit
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Telephane Number J- �--� _`.� .���., � �J�.� `3 �' Approval o£ Premin-
inary �, Final Plat
� PROPERTY GWPIER'S SIGNAT�' RE ___ Stxeets or Alley
Vacations ;
Address
Othex �
Telephone Number � i
� - Fee �d Receipt No. 955�5��Z. j
Street Location of Property �--`�� �-�.'��'.��- v �
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� Lega.l Description of Property �L�;�,�,�,.- �.��-�.� ���I-� % � '''�u�1�'' `�� !
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Present Zoni.ng Classification Existing iJse of Property �
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Acreage of Pr.operty Describe briefly the proposed zoning classificatior� �
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or type of use and improvement pxoposed__� ���.z.'�=°� ��. �G�-'�-r��� ��m,.��, �
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Has the present applica.nt previously sought to rezone, plat, c+btain a 1ot s��lit o
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variance or special use permit on the su�ject site or part of it? yes�no. �
�dhat was requested and �,hen'?
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The trndzrsigned under.sta.nds that: (a) a list of all residents and owr.ers of property �
tvithin 300 feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attaclied to this application. �
�b) T?li.s a.pplica.tion must be si.gne;l hy all owners of the property, or an explanation �`
giver� why.this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceec!ir��s �
resulting from the failure to list tlie �iames a_nd addresses of all residents and �
pr.operty oiailex•s c.f property in c�uestion, belongs t.o the undersigned. �
A sketch of proposed property and structu2•e must i�e. dra�,Tn and attachecl, �howing the �
followi.ng: 1. North Direction. 2. I,ocation of proposed structur.i on t.he J.ot. �
3, nime�lsions of proper�ty, proposed structtire, arld front and side setbacks. ;�
4. Street Names. 5. Loc,ati_ot1 and use of adjacent existing buildiiigs (tivitliin 3�0 fec:tl . :'
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'I'he uncler.signed hereby declares that all the facts ancl represent tions stated i..n this `
application are true a�td coxrect. �3� � + �
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DA1'E SIGNATUI:L' ' tv1.�t.r�� � '
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Date riled Date of flearing �
Planni.ng Ccmmission Approvcd City Cot�ncil Approved i
(dates) Denied � (d��tes) Den:ied � ;
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PUBLIC HEARIPIG
BEFORE THE
CITY COUIQCIL .
Notice is h.ereby given that there will be an informal Public Hearing of the
City Council of the City of Fridley in the Ci.ty Hall at 6431 University Avenue
Northeast on Monday, October 15, 1979 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for
the purpose of:
Reviewing the Special Use Permit SP#79-04 by
Mr. Joseph Perrozzi. This additional hearing
is being held in order for the City Council to
re-examine the new proposed house plans being
proposed for Lots 28 and 29, B.lock R, Riverview
Heights, the same being 8181 Riverview Terrace •
N.E. , Fridley, Minnesota.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard in reference to this matter shall
be given an opportunity at the above stated time and place.
WILLIAM J. NEE
MAYO R
Publish: None
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PUQLIC HEARING
[iEFORE THE
PLANNING COf•1MISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a P�ablic Hearing of the
Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, March 24, 1982
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M, for the purpose of:
Consideration of a request for a Special Use
Permit, SP #82-01 , by Joseph Perrozzi , per
Section 205.1574, 4, to allow the construction
of a new dwelling on Lots 28 and 29, Block R, �
Riverview Heights , in CRP-2 Zoning (Flood Plain) ,
the same being 8181 Riverview Terrace N.E.
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Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
RICHARD H. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLAhNING COMMISSIOl�
Publish: March 10, 1982
March 17, 1982
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- - Planning Commission March 5, 1982
Appeals March 5, 1982
City Council
PIAILING LIST
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SP #82-01 and Variance for
Joseph Perrozzi
Mary Kociemba Mr. Dennis Lomenick
666 Ironton Street N. E. 690 Ironton Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
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Mr. & Mrs. Michael McCoy A9r. & ��lrs. Donald Langford, Jr.
671 Ironton Street N.E. 680 Ironton Street N.E.
Fridley, P�n 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ernest Hansegaard Mr. & Mrs. John Henrick
677 Ironton Street N. E. 670 Ironton Street N. E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Dennis Roelke Thomas Brandl
8215 Riverview Terrace N. E. 664 Ironton Street
Fridley, P1n 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Robert M. Mikulak DeGardner Realty
8241 Riverview Terrace N.E. �4025 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Columbia Heights, M�J 55421
Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Peterson Mr. & Mrs. Daniel St. Clair
633 Hugo Street N.E. 8141 Riverview Terrace N. E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
James C. Parker & P1r. & Mrs. John Rice
Mary S. Masonick 696 Hugo Street N. E.
669 Hugo Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432
Fridley, Mn 55432
Joseph Perrozzi
f�lr. & i�rs. David Jones 5100 Vincent Avenue North
677 Hugo Street N. E. Minneapolis , �1N 55430
Fri d 1 ey, h1n 55432
Mr. & ��rs. George Elliot Mr. & Mrs. Gerald Blille
695 Hugo Street N. E. 680 Hugo Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Schneppmuller
8151 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Robert C. Lindbloom
6633 Cherokee Lane
Brooklyn Park, Mn 55428
Mr. & Mrs. Roy Klingbeil
8199 Riverview Terrace N. E.
' Fridley, Mn 55432
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City Council �Y -�
MAILING LIST
SP #79-04 Joseph Perrozzi
to building in CPR-2 Zoning
and variance
Joseph Perrozzi P1r. & Mrs. John Henrich
218 5th Avenue North 670 Ironton Street N.E.
Sauk Rapids, Mn 56379 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Michael McCoy Thomas Grandl
671 Ironton Street N.E. 664 Ironton Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ernest Hansegaard Mr. & Mrs. Daniel St. Clair
677 Ironton Street N.E. 8141 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Dennis Roelke Mr. & Mrs. John Rice
8215 Riverview Terrace N.E. 696 Hugo Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. George McCrary Mr. & Mrs. Gerald Blille
633 Hugo Street N.E. 680 Hugo Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Casper V. Dosch Mr. & Mrs. Richard Burgess
677 Hugo Street N.E. 670 Hugo Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. �eorge Elliot
695 Hugo Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Schneppmueller
8151 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fri dl ey, P�in 55432
Robert ��. Lindbloom
6633 Cherokee Lane
Brooklyn Park, Mn 55428
Mr. & Mrs. Roy Klingveil
8199 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Raymond Weitbrecht
690 Ironton Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Langford, Jr.
680 Ironton Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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PUBLIC HEAftiNG
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
NoHce ia hereby given that there
wlll be a Public Hearing o[the Plan-
nIn Commieaion ot the City ot
Fri�ley in the City Hall at 8491 Unl-
' vereity Avenue Northeaet on Wednea-
day, March Y4, 1982 in the Counctl
Chamber at 7:90 P.M.[or the purpoae
o[:
Coneiderallon o[a requeat tor a
Special Use Permlt,SP xe2-Ol,by
Joaeph Perrozzi, per Section
Y0�.1574,4,to aliow the conatruc-
tion of a new dwelling on Lote 28
and Y9, Block R, Rivervfew
Hei hte,!n CRP-2 Zoning(Flood
Pla�n),the eame being 8181 Riv-
ervlew Terrace N.E.
Any and all peraona deairing to be
heard shall be given an opportunity at
tt�e above etated tlme and place.
RICHARD H.HARRIS
Chairman
Planning Commiselen
(March lo&17,1982)-FRID
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�c�. �"(Icial Publicqtlon)
���3+LBLIC HEARING
` BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there
• will be a Public HearinQ ot the Plan-
tdn� Commission of the Ctty ot
r iey m the City Hall at 6431 Uni-
s�ty Avenue Northeast on Wednes-
SUN NEWSP�PERS a .� May 23. 1979 in the Council
Chamber at 7:30 P.M.tor the purpose
oL•t
Consideratlon of a request for a Sp0-
cial Use Permit,SP 79-04,by Joseph
perroxzi,per Section 205.157,5,D,ot
the Fridley City Code,to allow con-
AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION struction ot a new dweldng on Lots 28
and 29,Block R,Riverview Heights,
in CPR-2 Zoning (Flood Plain), the
same being 8181 R�verview Terrace
N.E.,Fridley,Minnesota.
Any and all persons desiring to be
F RI D LE Y �jJN heard shall be g�ven an opportumty at
the above stated time and place.
RICHARD H.HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNINGLOMMISSION
(May 9&16,1979)—FRID
5211 Central Ave. N:E, Fridley, Minnesota
State of Minnesota
� ss.
County of Hennepin
�JC/Y� (2 ��9 C^-�
�fr�, being duly sworn, on oath says he is and during all times here stated has
been the virrpresident and printer of the newspaper known as Fridley Sun and lias full knowl-
edge of the facts herein stated as follows: (1) Said newspaper is printed in the English lang-
uage in newspaper format and in column and sheet form equivalent in printed space to at least
900 square inches. (2) Said newspaper is a weekly and is distributed at ]east once each week.
' (3) Said newspaper has 50°Jo of its news columns devoted to news of local interest to the com-
• munity which it purports to serve and does not wholly duplicate any other publication and is
not made up entirely of patents, plate matter and advertisements. (4) Said newspaper is circu-
lated in and near the municipalities which it purports to serve, has at least 500 copies regularly
delivered to paying subscribers, has an average of at least 75% of its total circulation currently
paid or no more than three months in arrears and has entry as second-class matter in its local
post-office. (5) Said newspaper purports to serve the Cities of Fridley, Blaine and Coon Rapids
in Anoka County, and Spring Lake Park in Anoka and Ramsey counties, and it has its known
office of issue in the City of Fridley in Anoka County, established and open during its regular
business hours for the gathering of news, sale of advertisements and sale of subscriptions and
maintained by the managing officer of said newspaper or persons in its employ and subject to
l�is direction and control during all such regular business hours and devoted exclusively during
such regular business hcurs to the business of the newspaper and business related thereto.
(6) Said newspaper files a cop.y of each issue immediately with the State Historical Society.
(7) Said newspaper is made available at single or subscription prices to any person, corporation,
partnership or other unincoroorated association ranucst;,,v rno „A...�..�..o. .,,,a --.-.�-:...� .�� �.-
File No.
Affidavit of Publication
FRI DLEY ,�UN
521 f Central Ave. N.E.
Fridley, Minnesota
In The Matter Of
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PETITIQN COVER SI�EET
Petition No. 1-82
Date Received MarCh 29, 1982
object In opposition to the building of a dwelling on Lots 28 and 29,
Block R, Riverview Heights Addition (In CPR-2 Zoning - Flood Plain)
or 8181 Riverview Terrace N.E. (S.P. #82-01 ) by Joseph Perrozzi
Petition Checked By Date
Percent Signing
Refer.red to City Council
Disposition
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April 1, 1982
p.p�y Tp ACTION INFO.
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SP #82-01
Joseph Perozzi
Mr. Joseph Perozzi has re-submitted a request for reapproval of Special
Use Permit #SP 79-04. On June 4, 1979, the City Council approved SP #79-04
with the stipulation that drainage be designed to ensure no water was re-
tained on the property. Also, a lot area variance was approved with the
stipulation that Riverview Terrace easement was obtained,and the side yard
reductions were denied.
Since construction was not started within one year, nor an extension re-
quested, Mr. Perozzi is requesting a new Special Use Permit, SP #82-01, for
construction of a dwelling in the flood plain. He has revised his plans so
that a side yard variance is no longer required. He has submitted a drainage
plan that is acceptable. In addition, the Appea7s Commission has again ap-
proved a lot area variance from 7500 square feet to 5983 square feet.
In a petition by the neighbors, they are challenging the narrow front yard.
This area was platted a number of years ago and two additional lots in
this area are 50 feet wide. The remainder are primarily 60 feet.
The staff's main concern is floor elevation of minimum 824.7 feet and de- �
velopment of the lot in accordance with the approved drainage plan.
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Mr. BaarczTnan stated tha�L �k�is prouert;y T�tas 1.oc��ed ��n tlze flqc�. �a7_ain �trld tha�:
was �th� r.e;�son for �i�e Special Use r'Gr�ni�t;. St is o�� a 50 ioo'c lo� z�rith. a house
�to �the noitl� and a 1louse to the sou�;ll� 'I:'hey �,�ut to�eth�.:�r �z draina.ge ����n wllic�l
is s}-j�,�srn an ��a�;e 50 c�� �he agend�.o It is a li.�ct].c� b:i_t c�3f�'erc:z�'� from o�chcr
ho��e� a.n �hat «rea p:rimu�rily becausc the hause waU.7..a b� built on �tiZ�tso I��
wau.1�. be bua.l.t sc -�hat i,he first; 1eve1 0:� �t;Al� izou.,Q �a�u:l.d �b� above th� f'1.ac�d
p�.�ii.n. Tti^ d.rainage �lan �hey k:ave aevelo�ea catc�es �he water :£ro:� �;h� noL t�i,
dra:i��u a.t; 7_�ac:k uround �Lh� €;axage azea �;Ad c�r�za.zas it �ut 'to�aaras ���e s�t�ree�t� 0+1
t��z� so�xtl� s:;.ae of the lc��. r ror� 1.cokzi��; at �t��ae ��la�s and ���.� c�rainw�� p7.ar. �v
ap�,eaz s tr�,t it znatches �iel.l �r�th the ,:,d jac�n':, pro�a�r_ty and the p���.�.r;s �ti-o�zld
mi�:�im;.z� �cl�!e ef'�'ect o�' floodin� on i;hA i'loo:rs and �ha� t,yi.' c� t,i�a.ng. �'hey
e].irr�:in�i.ed a J.ot of the pz obl�ms �they wou�.d r_aa�mu:lly have if the bu�.1.t a nc�rznal
' type of ��h.ructure. .
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sroul.d be� liandled. ��riti:in the lct i�Lself. P,ec�,use �th� z��y�� level �rould. be .r.aised
above �the flood plair� and because of the si�;u.ation c�' the f''loflr and tnr adverse
�ffec�.t a �'1.00;� wou]-ci have for ����ansion, they eould �limin�te 'tre :1_5 i'o�t o� level
.fill on �the side�. iherei'ore �Lhey wouldn'�t have to worxy about the over�°1ow onto
;;he nei�hbor's property
Als. Fiag}�es stated she didn't understand �;he 15 foot of level fill.
Nir. J�oardman s�;ated that in a fload plain they huve to have t}1e fill u�; 2 �eet
ak�ove i;he flood l.evel an� that� f':i11 has to iae at a 15 foo:, dist�nce s"rom all sides
of tY.� house. The r�ason for tha�; is the more land tYlexe i;he less wa�er p:essi.zY•e
on �the floor. So this �.Tou1.d be a dii'ferent ��ay of lool>ing ��: i�t,. He noted th�at
the P].anning Commission had requested a moratorium on buildin� in �f,he fleod plain
area, but tkie Council has not yet cieclared a niora�o.rium. �'hey i.ad ask.ed th�it the
Planning Commission study it fL�s'ther. I�e also noted th.at scw�.r and water woul.d
be ava:ilabl.e.
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Nb�. '1':tr,to stated '�l���t �t;here wex•e, sm�.11. chil�dx.�cn :i.n. tlle �xpar�ment �thcre and he fc�l�t
it �;ould be ��.fer tor �tl�ase chi]_dren if' p�:opl.e w}zo l.ived ;��n t,he area �1Ere drivirx�
throu;h. Tl.�ey vraul.d be �nore ��rare of :l;he ch:Llc�rer. th�iz �eople �oin�; to r�n office.
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UP�ll A VCICI�, VOT.�, ALL VOTIT,G 11Y..C� CF�AIT?I�9�;N IiA�I,]:S D�CLAF,�,D THJ� PUP�LIC I3�kRTTi�
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t��s. tit:E;hes a�;rEed. tYie2�� �saas no x•eal C�lOIGG' bet�r�� •these two us�s �nc�:tlzer i�; w�;;s
Cki�2 cr. CR-1 or T;p3 a_n terms oi �trai"fic. Siae wa, o���osec� 1;o the kir�d af spo�c
zo�iin�; that this x.•epresen'F,s� ,�ar�ticu?_a�r_ly �.n th� s aiea ��i�iich I�s nk�ia;;,e:d to s-tay
resid�_zlt:ial. t3alder soti�e J�cavy �;h:r�e,:it� bcc�uue �L ey are :,o close to Bir�i�way �6j ana
T�1i;:�_ss:i;�pi.. F'ecause os' the h.i.:�toric nat�ire i' �c�t;e: rezoi�iz�� requests ora thc rzori.h
ei��s� co,^z7er �f �iS_�;k-�tir«y 1i$j and I��S_ssisuippi �-ad w?��.l�c h.-.:s }aapten�d �,o �}Zem� she �:e�1,�,
tlzey t�roula be ver;f rE::i11.JJ r..n c�rantir�; this lrlra ca' zol�;.r�;. Unless th� 11ZJGUSJZVT.I
ti.1T'I"1S U�7 u0YfA8��`1111� li�ZJ� :i���`.'. �•7C.U.�i.C� ��E3 �ri :Lrt}fU2." Oi GE:T1:L�la...
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l�;c e T.reuenfels s•�ated. �e h<�zd r�cea.�c�ed m,��' �:riul :Crcm �t;he �a�t;y l��t�;arn�y �rizich str;,•ted
�LYi«�� i.n ord�.r. �t,o rezone' i� shou�d cxer is�: ���aso.:�ab:Lc fv:c�;rieran.�e c�- �;he �uo:Li..c
hcal.t,.i� safr��,y and w�lj'are and also t?�E Car��ureYier��ive D�v�l�pmenr, P1«n �•tates oi�
pa�,e � �t��at, -ck.vY°e zs � n�ed �cyr 23�J0 r-���r YIGUSE:S ar.r�. no�t eno��iz residen�t;ial 1.and
e�.is�;s 'co accc�,ch3.�te t?:�.at. On �tk�is b� i�� lzc ;•roul�a n�'t be in favcr af rezon_tn�;
reside���tiul �!�-?nd �l;o corri;rnerci.�l.
I�. Ii�3,�ris �.�tca t:-�.2,'t ��he t,o���lere� s�.ve P:Lan. had n��t yet bc:�n adopi�ea �by' 't���e Ci�Ly.
N�J�'TUN tay Tfs. I?�;-;�ie�p seca�:�dE:d b l��s. Hora� to recomn��enc to Council d�n�.a1. oy �;?:.�e
rf.au��,-k,, 1�C?.�. ;;'7�-G? b,y �^li.�..l:ir.�z�z � . liax�t to :ee�.,{��,.e t?��. Sou�:�i 1�0 QO l'e�:�Ly fro�l�t ��nd
re«r c:t' T_�o�t ;, Auaitor� s aubdi isi�n Tdo. 88 (except tPie idest 30 tee�) ar,d the Sout'ri
120 �:ee� of' 'tx�c I�Test �+'T fee� � Lot :LO' Aucii�ox�t s Su'odivisi�n No. 83, from R-3
� (mult�.ple r'�wellin� u�i�s) to }.�W� (ofzi.c�� serv�.c� ar��� limited busir�ess) �to allow
t;he ccnU�;x�uc�ion of a 1-stoi insi�sar.ce ot�':ice �t 6?+j1. Iii�;hrt��T jf65 11�.t;.
A"��. I�rris inio.r.m.ed the �?�� �tioncr �;hat the mc�;ic�n tlas to recc�li�nend denial and
�;Yia't Cotulcil ��;otzld hear �;} is and set public k�aearin�s. �-Ie a1.so informed t2i�
petitioner t�lat i�' Coun^' deza�,ed his xequest, he co�.,L1.d not re-app7,y �or iuxther
action an tY�.i.s proper�;,y 'ar 6 months. H� h.ad th� option te withdra�a his request.
Ms. Schnabe7_ asked if �e �ouia withdraw it bc;..fore i�t �oes �i;o Council so he would
not have to i�iake a de�'ision right now.
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Mr. Clark felt hE ca�z.td do tha�. �
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Mr. Oqu3.s�t aslced w a't� �aould hnppen if we vote '�o deny a.t and lle withdraws the �
request befare it �oes �o Council. What process �:Tould he"have ta fo11ou1? ;
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N�. �Iarris stat he would have to reap�ly if he decided te do something else. {
Ii' he doesr�'t w thdraw his reques� and i� is dc�nied by Council� he coul.d not �L•ake �
any action for,�6 months. !
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Mr. 3iarris str�ted thr��; kze w�s z�a�L cure nbout �tl7P draina�;e.
L�.i. 13oaxdr�.�,n s�l;atecl that l�:icl� Sobiech h�d rev:iewcd it.
P�Ir. Hraxris s'�a�t;ec� that tYie ��U�:i�i;�m�nt ti;as made tl�aL �tYi� drai�age would be handled
wii;r�izz •i,�ic cor�:Ciries of tk�e lo�t;. Ite ques�;ionf�d Y,�•h�t rrauld hap��eri -to i�t f'rom there?
[�x. Iloardman stated that it �rould �o i���o th�Y s�trect. '1'he arro��rs on the plan
itidicatEcl �he �aater f1o�!ti. .
P�as. Sc}.��abe1 st��,E}c� t.��.� �;lae �leva�inns circ�.cd ax� �th�� proposea eleva�ions and
'i;he ones raot circ�..cd are t)ie exis��i;.� eleva��:i�ns.
I�s. Boar.d.z��n statcd tha�l, �.�hen he loo}�ed a�t i�t he had uo^:e px'obl.e?�� als�.
nir. . flax•r.iti s�:at�:d tba�t tiae drap w�zs so �;r��du�:� :;hat hc: qu.�;s'cione� i�;. Ii� asked
i{' t�i.r.�. :ior�;_ech wa:� co:�vi.rlced �t1�is wuu�.a 1larld].e tr�� dra:i_Aaa�,;e.
A�r. :3�a���`�zr�:.n s�;a�:e.d Zl�a't he revi.ewed tt�e dr.ainage plan and if that pl.an was complete�
as des i.gn:,d, tl:�e drainage :,liould work.
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and. �l-�e rro�os�d e�le��atiorz �r�,s c°2,"�,m6. 2';��t':; ai:zau.t a �cen�til oi a �'oo�t-� or a 1.i.t'i;�t.e
c�ver an inYk�l.
Nis. Sc�,?�.�be� ����terz ts a�t; tr�e .ta�;�me���, z��as made at, t'rie t�npeal.s Cor��nisszc�r. tl��t
'i;t:@ rt_iil� T:r'T1Ur"� i0'�." �;1'�. ��_?t�C1.t;l �T54 L;l":;�1'� Z-iUL'!i S'�a'tE3 �','.lcl.'l: 't`�:1C �;I"OUY'iCl Ui1CtiF'1 1;tic;
I1�JL:Se E:1':Gt;i�.G �JG ct'�.; Q�j. u1:i� tz'?C�TI p� i?L1C�. '�rla'�;, ��l �:}lc: ci::C:!:i.i. tTsc:, apP.lica�„_on.
Mr. ����zr.�__.�::az� s-La.�l;eo. t'r��t �L-h� firs�� i'�.c�or o:[' :,lie 1;c�txsc i�as �tc� t;c; r�zised i,o �2�.��
'i'h�,�� is t}�e :f'irs�c �°lonr ea,evatian of t�z� l��use.
t��:�. S^'�n�be.:l s�Lated t'Ze;� t.au.7_d have abotzi; 1� foot �ie�tween the �row.zd level ar.c�
th� L-ot�.;o.�� of �Lhe ro�e. 'I�he �rou.ra 1e�ve7. wot�ld be abcut �c^3. �he u7.so stated
-t}��a'� t�}ie rues�:ion h�.d colne up at �'?e �':���peals Col�issa.or.; re�rarding wYiether ox� not
t1�.�e :e�rcr tir��s adec�uate. It was �their tu�de.:rs�tsz��a:i,n� �tliat i�t� was a 10 i��c�1 ��ipe
sou�;,l� o�' I��,.�o az�d � a.;�ch T]O�r�l1 Gf Hu�;o. 7:'her.0 ���us �z qi.ec,�tion becatzse som.e �t'
th� ��c���1e a.n ��h�:: r�.ei.�hbcrhood ��rexe ex;�eriencin� a baclt-up probler�i. T1zEy �'el�t
't;1Lj� t�ie L�r�:t�eeri-i� De�ax.'�t;zrent s2io��1d loo'_•� and see a.� there wc..r.e adequa�i;e lines
to i;a:��d1.e �dditior�al llouses in the area.
Mr. Baax•dz�n sta't;ed �that was nn Ent;ineeri�Ag D�par�t;in�nt pr_oblem an3 also s�tated
that it ��r�s probab],}r desigr3ed to handle iu1Z devc�:L�}�ment of the area.
Mr. P�rrozzi s��ted �;hai� at the �lppeals CUnLI71Sc�-Orl there was concern about the
pile driving. Since •then he .found that would not Ue necessary az�d could be hand :
du� with a cei�ient�� co:�lar underneath so this �c��ould allev:iate tha�t problern. Also� ;
ther� was a question aboui; the setbacks GIl tlie side yard. He stated he would be '
��ill.in� to cut down a couple feet ozi the house i�' �;hat �rould he1.p.
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1�.�e Schnabel stated th�a� Tdr. Klingbeil had questianed the pi1.e dra.ving and noted �
•that hc was here. �
Mx. K!in�beil. stated that h.e had rieard ��;he st�tement by I�Ir. Perrozzi. �
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Mr. Harris asked what happens to the wa�t;er presentl.y on the lot? '
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Mr. Boardman s�ha�ed ilzat it loo�ced like the lot was ].ow. i
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Mr. Og,ua_st sta�;ed tku�t when he looked at it i�; looked like i.t just stayed'there. `
Mr� Boardman s�tated tl�at� the wa�Ler seems to col.lect there. ,
P�.rs� Doris Schneppmueller� 8151 Rivervic�w Terraces statEd she liv�d next door to
the soutk�. She sta�teu tha� the sw:�vey �•raU don� i,n �;l�e w9.riter and she feJ.t they ;
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misjizd�ed by a ec�uple of feet. The wutcr irom hc;r lot ruizs o��to �Lha�t lot. t
2✓ir. Board:r,ai1 stated th�t he h�,d to ussume �that th�: survey is ri�;r�te T.t �.001,s l.ike
the house is 5 ioot off the proper�;y l�ne and tki�,-t the �;arage is �+ foat from �che
pro�erty line. 15 foo't is r�cu�xeci and �;ha�� Zdc`1S :�hy they ne�ded a variance. He
st:;'cEd. �;;.�zt all they cou].d do saas assume th� survey �yas correct.
Air. Gr�e�L-ei• Sclzac?�, 6�35 Glencae Street ��� st:��:�d �ha�:, k�.e wa�� concerned, abauu
se`��tir:� a �r�:cecler.�t. There ��rere two 1.ots b�hind Y:im •to �t;��e nor-i;h. He �'e1� the
house pl�3n �ras awk���rard fo-r ��hat urea and was con�erned about th� skirtin� arcurid
tYi�: h�v.se. F�e stai:ed �that th�;re �aauld be a pro��em wi_th x�adents.
IR�^. R. I-I. Klingbeil, 819� Riverviet�r Terrace NE� stated tha�; he l.ives on the north
sid:, o:f_' the ]_c�u iz� c�ues�tion. fIe sta�Led tha•t in 1965 dur�_ri� the i'loc�d j watei ca.�.�:.� ,
in�i,o �the 1.cz•r spot on �Lh� :�ront oF the :Lot� H� a;r�ed zaith I�;r. ,5.'chack abou�t the
xodents and af�;er t��e �'1.oad thex�e was a prob]_em �rith ra'ts on that lot b�cause oi'
thc debris �.eft bei�.ind. He no�ed that in Flisconuin o�z �.a��e hor�es �;hey x�quire
a poured fo�_uzdation becat:se oi rodents�
N�r. �7oh.i Rice� 696 Hu�o St. N.E.f stated th�t if they �ra�zt the variances for
this 1ot it would set a precedent in �t�:e area and the l�.omes would be t�o clo:e.
Mr. Perro�zi sta�ted i�hat the gruding would not be brou�ht up to tl�e �top of. the
first �'loor. It t-�ould be pre�t�t;y much as is. �.s far as redents gettin�, into the
house, a wire aneCi� or 1a�ttice work t�rill go around thc house to pxevent rodents
from getting in. He added that the foundation would probab]y be stronger than
any house in the area becau�e of the po.l_es arid eye beam construction. The City ;
of Minneapolis has anprrnred this type oS construction. FIe also felt it was a `
bui].c�able 1ot and fel.t he had met the requa.rersen�ts of the i'lood pl�in. �
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Mr. Gquist a�ked t%s. PerroL�i . i�' he intendcd to 1.ive :tn i;kie house?
J�x. I'crrozzi sta�i;�d ize did.
I�ir�. Schncs�4�prn.ueller. stated �hat �tl�is taoul.d be the f�_�st h�u�e built on a small
].ot o:� R:i.verview fac�r,�; ths river.
Ntr. fIarri.s aslced trhen th�.s was plat�;ed? ,
, I�Ir. I3oardmt�n s�t:si,ed :i.t �ras a vc��,� old plat-
P�ir. I{J_ir.��;;�eil s�,at�ci tlzat he ti�ou�l��; i�t wa: pJ.a�t�tcd in ].;�25. (Platted 8/1922)
Ms. Ht.��a�cs as}>e:d. if the S�af�' �ras we�_1 sat�sf'ied with �h�s ty�e of cons�Lrt�ct:i.on?
I��. 3�oazGr.;an st,a�ed 'thpy crcre s«tisfied ti�i�in the cor_st�uction. The onl.y pro�lem
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_i�, 1��.�3. t,�.: �,h�:t l,o dwcisa.axi� lzad been m� c y a �; �
�i;o �,Y�.c �'�.00d ��1ai.1.
?✓�r. Sct�ac?� s�i:a�L��� •tY:��t, �.:ncay� sYzoulc� ue corasis�Lent i�z the:�.x• rutes re�;�rd:i.n� the
flood p?air�. Iie d�an't 't}.�ink it �:as rigllt �Lo let Ih,r. Per.rozzi build �ri�h pol.�s
azad so.r�o�se e1s� ruild. a d:ifi'er.ei�.�t way.
iir� �oar.dz��.n s�i;u���c� taat �h� il�o�. �lain xe`u1.a'tio:�s were sc� up by t?�e Federal
�o,rr.i rA:n-::n+ i:z l;`j� ar..,d i�Y�.e ��c.�u�_<,ta_ar.s r?must b� a.r��roti�ed 1�y the Sta�t�e m Al.l r.e��lzest:.�
re�e:rdil��; �hi;� :t':i��: plain mv.s•� l�e svnt to �:,i�� St.«te. .
N:._�~^� Scri�:ck a..l�ec? iz tli� �ara�;e woul.d be UuiJ.t oz�z �olr�s an�, raised also?
I,'ir. P�o,<z��dr.?ai ��ta�;c�� thai� a si;iuc�uc� was not z�q�a:i.red �Lo be above i;tie f':1.00d ��airi
leye:L uzlless i�; was r.abi.�tublc:. It must be ailckiored ho�rever� �o it doesn't iloat.
A�. Fc,x°rc�;�z�i si;ai,e;cz �ha't �l,Y�e �ara�;e i�rould be �ut es t}.�a flood plaizl area. Iie
alsc ��;ated th:,�L the t�alve o� the house �•rou]_d be consis�Lent with otl�ers in th� area
�r�d wculc� add to the ameni�ics. Tl�is type af constructioi� was developed because
la:id is bc.co�n��lin� �raluai�lc;e
r����'IOIv by Ntr. Oa,,uis�� ���o�aea Uy r�is. Iiuu�„hes� to close the �ublic liearin�.
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r��s. Hugkles sta�t;ed she woul� need mor.e input from the otYiex Connnissioners� She
was cor::ple�hely oppased to building in the flood. plain. She woul:d �ike more back-
grotu�d regarding �;he p�zlosapby of what a.s allo��red in the flood plain.
bZr. Fiarris sta�ted that he would lil:e to appraise the Co�issioners as to the
conditions of a Special Use Permit. Ur.der rezonings axid variances it is incwnbent
upcn �Lhe pe�;�.tioner to show cause why it should be gr�nted. Under Special Use
Permi.ts, if' it i� denied, :t is �.ncumbent upon the Commissioners to list good and
qualifiE:d reasons as to wl� it shou;ld Ue deniede We have a f:Lood �lain or.dinance
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�nd 3.� n�ust b�� complied wa.�xi. I:n this r�rea the Corp o� En�ineers has stated
tkic lcvel is 822. Our ordinnnce r�qui.res �h�t �ny liv�ble s'cruc��ure be 2 foo�i;
above the 100 year flocd level and this mee�i;� �;hat requirement. So he is meeting
thc; requ:i.a�ements of the flocd p7.ain and lf we recc�mn��nd denial wre mus�t hav� good
cause for it. Mr. I-�,rris s�G�ted �that i�Y was h�.s �;er�er�a1. �'eelix�; that the Ci�ty
and the Plannin� Cor�-nission has been. ne�li�en� in nct adoptin�; �eneral policies
for c3e�velopment in �thi� area. Mr. FTarris went to t,hE Ci�ty Cauncil a'aout a mazith
ago and asked h�w the Coancil t�roul.d feel about a rr��ratoriu�.n on bui].din� in tnis
area. Co�zncil. su��es�ted the P:Lannin�, Co_��niss:t.or Utudy it and form r�corrunendations
before they decl�re a moratoriur�. F�;is particul.ar. i'eeling was �hat he wou7..d not
like •to see construction in the area unta.l �ui.del:ine� nre set up.
Mr. �.l'reuenfeJ.s was concerned abaut wha�t would be considered �ood reasons. Two
asp�c�ts m�ntivned, were fi.rst' the draina,r�,� z�ii�;h�v xao� be sufi'i.cient and s�cond,
-tYiern cou.�_d be a proUlem wi•Gh rolents. H� asked if �hese woLild be consider.ed
�ood reasons �'or deniaJ.?
Ms. li�a�l,es adu.ed tha�G the 50 foot lo� �ras subst<��dard�
Mr, Harris stated tha�c iri our ordin::�nce, nzly �lat recnrc�.ec� be�oxe �..g�5, zae al.lo��
cans�tructioz� on �0 f'oot lo'cs provideci they �re 7`�UO e.qt�re iee�r. lhi� lo�; is
no'L bu� t��t� conc�rzzs �;he }3aard c�f .�lppeals. �rhF clra:;.na�;e :�i�u�:tix�n is a va7.ia
poin�.;. Iie �aas r�o�t sure about th� rodenf; s:i.�Lu,:�i;io.z.
A�. 3:3oa:r.dm�rz s�t��ted �;l�at the ordiz�ancc layed c��.�t, �i�Le -cy��s �f tki:i.n�;s �hey woi.L'Ld
not �tl:���1 a �pecial Use Pe:r.�:�:u :i'r�r. `1�Y:c m�i�i +•h iz�� t}�!ey loolc at is af i�f; vr:i.?.1
causc �cono,:tiic kv�rclsiiip elsekhexu by causi=�� f'oud:i.r;� an tllc r�e�.4hho�:ir_g lots.
If �t?ze;� can shaT:* use �f;hrouE,h En�;i.nec:rin� da`ca t?��1�G �tlley aY�: no� ;air.� �i,o do �t?;:at
ox if' �•hey cauJ..d sa�ve an existir.g cirai.na�e }�robleir:, thetl we fee1. they h<:,ve MzG
tha�t r�qu:i_.r.emc�zrt.
i+as. Schna:bel st;ated they tihou].d. xevie�: �t,he Cor�uni�sione�rs ob1.a.�atiot�s xe�a.rding
5pecial Use I'�rmitw. T�de must �;rarit Specia7. U:�c �'c;rr.�i�s if it :�s i'ound 'cha�; thP
proposed use is cc�ir.pa+ibl� with �Lhe existin� use ai11 dqes not endanoer �the puriic
health� safe•Ly ar�d wel.faxe of the area. Ta der_y cauld be dF•emed arbi�,.ra�9 un-
laiaful and ir. viol.atian of the applicante s ri�h.�s. 'I'he busden is on us �.n �Lhat
sensc. �'her� have bEen other cases -�hat have es�ablishe� cer�tair facts a.n cor;�-
nect�ion �rith �this. For inst;ance� a claim �t,ha� �;lae adjaccn�c pxoperty otaners pra-
per��y would be devalued has been found Uy the ccux•�s to be not a re�.son t'ox d�nial.
I�' the use coz�lies with Plarzning, City, police and �ire clepartments recomnendat�.ons
it riust be �iven w�i�ht with �;he Counci7. in appx•ovin� a .Special Use �'ermit. The
burden is rea].ly on our shoulders. She stated tha�L she �ot this in�orrnation from
a r�emoranduzn sent out by the City Attorney some time a�o.
Mr. Harris askEd i:C this property was really in essence actir� as a holding pend?
D4r. l3oardman stated thmt was the way it loa�ed.
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I�r. If�Arris s�Lat�d �:,hai; i�t mitXh�L �h,e� b�:cau:�e of �:k7e drair��;e �i�u�t�.on� �that tYiis �
struc t;ure sholzlcl no1, be built; thcrc azi;:i ��aybc the Cit�r should looY ii-�to the
��;;,iY�i.:l.i1;y ofi acc�uirira� th�3t ].o�l, for s�t;o�z� �•rate.r stora�e. `.I'his �oes back to
their oriF;irla�. discu:;sioi� o�' setti.��; up �;ui�iela.z��:s uncl cri�;eria fi'ox b�a�ldi.n� in
th:.�.s ar.ea. If we izad �,l�at, we woul_c1 have c_ertai�z ar.cas pinpointed a� draira�;e
storan;� �.reas. H�e �raa r;a�t cex�Laa.n �l;.i��t �zn F3 inch pi�.e eould h<andl.e the situa�i.on
of a.�.l. the s�torr� tiaatc.ar a.xa �he area.
Nx. Bo��r.dm<ax� stated �l�a-c tlie r3 a��ch pi-ne was �or. seti;er. .
M.r. Fi��r:ra.s asl�ed �rkadt thE��y had f'or s�orm z•ra�;er?
I�Lr. Oquist; .:�;_,'tsed llow r.��:ach dx�ai.na�e 'thcxe ��,*a� �;h�:re7
.. . a- � . �� �.1 bo�Lh sides C�x`cilIlEC� in�;o `i,his
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Ms. Sc;:�a�e:L s�,ated that tb.e kioL:se �;o the Nou'i�h. dz�:iris th�re bu�L t�le house to �the
nortr� doe;� z?o�.
I,Sr. ;t;-,a��d�.an stat4d �t;Y�e.re w�,s a se.ries eS JJaz'rn sc��aers ��Yicr.e. I-,es�; o�' �them are
. a c�,�t�.:h. b�si�i t,}'pe sys��cr, at t}�.e ei2d o�' euch o�' t'r:v s�,rect�> ai�d i�; drairis f'rora
-�t�c:.�F t�you�h a r�ipe iiito the r�i.ver.
Air. }.�a.rris s��a�t,e�. �t;hat a.cc��rdi.nr; �;o �l;hi�,� d.xawinF;a �cl�.� e�ntei° ai' th� strce� eleva,ti.ail
1:i �ii �:�2�1�• �i�1cJ`t� 1S v�1�'.. l'.�.:Li�.�i1�� E�.r'•'Vi.i`�1:�'•1a �Yl i,�l'<;: �.G�� i711.C���J�.1"1+� 4I11G�:C �'.!?.�'
�1Cl1vP ��TO171.'J'. 51.1'if �.S ����o �O ��I�L`�`�' �.tU'G l.`'i �C'G1Tip c'1.S F� :>�0..`I"� S;�u,�"i2T' Y'E;�iE'71U?_011 a:r�'u•
Txl� �ar<��e e�.�;�zra1ion is a'� S24.C. ThA hous� to �;l?�. s,ut1i :is 822.7 ai��. tne hous��
to 1�}�e a�or•�;li i� �i2�.��. tizo th;:5� l�k�ve to drain there.
I'.r. }3oaa:dn�an. :ta��red �that �by i'�wa.li.i�; and gradin� t�ii.s loL� +,he �•Tater d.rainin� f.rom
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., �- -�• � t�ouses �ai:�1 drain ir��o 'th5.s l.ot and ov:c to tr.e street. That would
tne Gct�ac�.nt
so:Lve t},c c.�raina�e problem.
P;�s. f;a��ris w�s �zot slse i�; �aou7-ci solve the prot�lem. He did not feel the eleva�ioi;
d.i:f.:�er�7�ti,a�,a �•rt�re eno��;;h> z'lle.re were talkin� about preLty lono dis�Lances and
�bo�z�t te�atlis o:C �'eet.
I�,�. `achnabe7_ stated th���.t 'th�y w�re limited because oz �Ghe elevation of the street
and ii they wcre �;oin�; �:o chang� i�, it a�it ht require the whol.e lot Ue �illed in.
Mr. ]3oarcinzan sta`ted i,hat by rillin� in the 1o�t, they wovld be creatin� � drai.n�g�
pro�:Lem fox• �tkie neig!lbors.
I�Ir. fiarris stated �hat tliere was � house of� to �:�e noxi;heas�; and there is an
elevatioi� o�C �22.1 in the corner of �,hat h�usP. The swale is 823.6 so the s�aale
is lii�her than the corner of �;k��t house.
Mr. Boardn��n st��Led t•here probably wasn't water iu that area ar�yway.
N�r. Ha.rris stnted thut the drop from the bacic was 823.4 �nd to the froz�t of the
, lot a.s 822R3 so they havP � foot and a ten�4h o� an �wrch over 11.72 fee�. It was
not much oi' a fa11..
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Mr. Boardman stnted that kie look�d at it ba�e:d on en�irz�erin� and wYzat c�zn be
done tid:L't�l t:e loi;s azi�. they probably did the �nos� t'.zey could do with �kie 1ot.
He ��i11 had :reserva'tiozis as far as wlza�t �Lh� Plannin� Corr,�nission's recomm�nda�tions
wil.l be re�arding �the lots in tlze fl.00d plain.
Msa ScY��7abel askecl D4r. ITarri:� if he woul.d fee]. more cou�f'ortabl.e if this item s•rere
tabled �u�ti�, he had an oppor�tunity tc� go to Counea.l �.nd cl.i�euss the ques�tions •tha't
had been x�ised �r un-ti.l further stud,y was done or� �the dzaina�e on this loi:.
Mr. Haxra.s stated he tiroul.d feel morc comlortabZe, yes� but felt the petitioner
srot:ld la.l�.e to get on vitlz �Lhe construction.
rf,r. Robert I,indb�.aom stated lie ��ras tY�e owner of �he �x�opert;y and when he `�,1COy,U,12.'E:C�.
�tY�� pro;�er�;y t1?e Ci�y told him he cou:ld build on �th� property if he me�t; �the �'1oc�d
�lain xec�uirer�errts. �
I�.r. Boa:�dman s�<�i.e�. tYiat ii they tabled it �'ox� tk�.e purpose of f'ur.ther discussian
with Couricil, hE would su�;::s�t t�iey not �ab�.e it•. Iie f'elc 3.f they �rai�tEd ��o �able
i�; in order to �ut �;o�;�t:hcr a pol,i.r.y 1;k1at tyould �e a �ood reasozi.
i�ir. I-�.<�rxa.s agre�d.
I�.�� Hu�hes ask�ed t��zen �Y�ey couJ_d. get to tk�a�t �>:i.nd of a stuc�,y.
�"�r. �o�rdrr,�n si���ted h� woua.d req_��es�, a �time beriad on �L17� s�Lu��r. He st��i,��. he
�:us t:o�i: aui�i:e su�•$ �,?�i�.'c tl:e,y ��r•�re l.c;a?:�i�ig fo�°. �',iglz� ��ira�s they l�.�ve ��G�La.�ti�ns
and if tl>ey muet tY'�ose re�a�.;tio��s -f;h�y can b�?_�_1.etP S:� th�.y �c�x'-L n�eet �F.�rr, �:.`:;y
car���;; k�u:ila� The xepulations requa.re a ?.00?�. at; i,l�e drain��e axzci S-;e l�ave a���ea
setT�;ra:l. l��.sed an trae arai.na�n. 2'}ai.s oxie cz�hs no�: scem to follow that crii��r.•ia.
� Mr. F,arris stated lie couldn�t agree ��rith that. I� w�,s difficu�t �to grade withir..
an inch.
Ms. I,lz�k,es s•tatcci �h�i� :i.t looked �.il�.L thex•e tirou7.d be about �-i-O�a to 50�jo h�:.rd sur�'ace
on �thp ]_ou af'+:e�° �lhe house is built. She asked how ruany other lots wou�.d presc;rzt
this same probl.�m?
A�r. BoardL�n sta�ed �:here i�rere or�ly a �eW �uildablc lo�i:s in tize area. �'he
o'tl�er �.o�Ls would be l�rd to builct on becaus� �the;y� saoul.d rec�ui.re �+ to 5 feet of f'i?J..
Mr. Oqua.st stated tnat he did not se� a rea�on to deny -the Special Us� Pex•mit.
P�IOTION l�y R'ir. Oqu.ist� seconded by T�Ir. Treuei�fels, �to recommend to Council approval.
of S�ec�.al Use P�rmity Si �79-0�+� by Joseph Per.rozzi: Per S�ction 20j.153, 5, D�
of the Fxidl,ev City Code, to allow cons�tr.uc�cion of a new d�tiTelliz� on Lo�Ls 28 and
29, �31.ock Rr Riverv�ew FIeights� in CPR-2 Zoning (flood plain) �Lhe same U�ing 81II1
Riverview T�rrace N.E.
Ms. Schnabel stated tha� she had � problem with �t;ize elevation situn�:ion. She w�s
not convinced �Lizat the fi�ures w�:re acurate and it would not cause a drain�ge
problem. This sw~vey was done in the winter and -there was a question by the
neighbors regArdin�Z the accux��cy. �
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I�;r. II�rz j.s ��?r�ec� ��.t.zd �t�'�cd �Lhc,y iaauld havc i.a �,robl.em establ.:Lsh:i.n�; l:ines i.n the
w:iritcr� l�uc it w��u1d. b� c3.a.i'1'icul.�t; to ��stabl:ish elev��iozis iz� the �rintzr.
T�Is. Scllnabe�. stated t'riey could •take the ele�Tatioii at tr.e four points and -they
must have i:ake.z it ut �Lhe ccn�ter; but �tne re,�t 1�ras ��iJ. con jec�iu e. SYie was
coz�c�x•nect a��out 7ct�Lin; dai�m �to :Less �i�}�fin czn izzch ��ra��e�d.i Flerenee and she w�s
n.a�; conv�incec]. �;ney coul.d c=l.ear axly wa�t,er }�z obl.em ti�.1.-:�:n tl��:,J:Y were worl>in; with less
th:�n lw ixzche:s. uk,e �'ea.�, �,h�it the ir�tei�t of tti4 �>eti,tioner wa� correcl; ar�d felt
hc k�ad a ?^.z1.�d p:1�iz ir�.th �,h.e pos� and beam cor:s�Liuc�Lione •
P�Ir. iiora sta�:ed t'r���t Y:e aLreecl tliat �;rad.in� tkiat clase was difi'icul�.
I��:r. I�)a;rr�s s�;a'fcd the px�o�ler� �roul.d be in th� :��orin� wl��en the �;x�un� was frozen.
UPOIV' !'� 1j0iC;a� VOTi��3 I3.K. Ui�UI�,':i'� Iw1E�. ili;{;ITi�T�T'.�'��L�'� 1��. S;�T�'<I13��;L VO`I':fT��G A�F, T�'.tir �T.t1I-�RSS
1�I�iti I`sl. IiQ't;A VOTi.:'rG i11y�9 r�av';) i'�;;3. �:liu.il"f'�:� AL�1'111idIIIGa '.I'}LT.: P.�.OT�G'ii ���1-'.S Ct�.REi�D j to 2.
T•'fr. Harris infax;ned �;�ze p�t:i�;;ioz�_er i•t �ac��l.c3. �;o tc Gt�urici�. on �urAe ��a 1�7�;.
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P:0'i'�T_C�� 1-�y I�:�. i�u�;}:e�, secoz�:a�.d 'uy P�:r. Tretz?n.ie� s tr o�,e-c, �the �^u'�1.ic ���ea-rar��;.
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N.�•. Bc�az dc,�ri sta.�;ed thi�s t�ra� .loc�te� ��,r' 67t10 �i��h Str.ee�L SdE and the peti�tioner
prc�p��es 'Eo bu:ilc� a �2%+ squ.��r� ioc�t aruge. T.�: c��oulc? �be an accc:ssory or second
g��ra�;�. 1'l�e e�.is�i.r.; gaza�e :i.s �,�� ci�ed �� �he hou:>v. This wa�.Yld I�e loc�ted
t�o 'tn.e rea:r a.f the }.:��ase with acc ss o�:c the set'viae dri.v� in tZze back area.
'.Pl:�is is similar to of�her propos�,3s trat, have been coznin� in an�'� Staff has na
c otar.e,rxl.
N�x. Q�uist uslced if th�t w�� a service drive beliind �there?
I�s. Boardrian sta�Led it w � azz access.
I�1s. Schn������. aslsed if '.t �,�as a dedica-ted access and �s':red whS� there was a sign
a't tile end sta'ting i�!; was a private driveway? She stai�ed tilere �rere alsc� b�rriers
across there.
Mr. Hora st��ed t -�t he lived on the service dx�ive and th� barriex•s were placed
there a� �F,he req st of the neighbcrs.
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Mr. Hmrris sug�ested i;hey look into having a barz�icade on a public r3�ht of way.
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��r. ��ui.�t >t<�tcd tl�t;,�; if i�t .� Y�a.rricaded it an t � y
itialcin�; �ri e�.senlent; �Lhez e, cr�uld a �,ar.��;e �o �;herc? Thez e arefi�ot.�er �xi�ra�es tr.ere. '
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i�r. Tourdman sta�ed this �a:�a�,e would �kzve access o£f th ri�rht o.f w�y�. ?
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I�`,r. I�zrri.s sta�ed that then the barricac�es would have f`o be moved. i
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I�r. �Tox�a sta�;ecl that i�; �k�o�.�1d �e the ch�ice c�' tl�e �+crson o�rsziz�� °che ;ar.a.ge as I
to t�Ytiir.h 4ra;T l�e: en�tcr�d. th� alley. 7�ast ,year 1;li�y �.`eq�ested t.he City 'co r.�evN
�f;rk� bv,r?_icac;.e t;o al7_o��r access �o i�'ir. I�:rson' s yard�!
?:is. Sckznabc:� st���ed �i;iia�; 'chc; ;i�n sayi.rl� it, was � private dr.ivc sk�.ot�ld rlot be
th�:re.
i��r. Iiox'a ti�tated that he &idzi'�c �ee any proL1. w:�,ll the 3.c;ess. It; was thezx
c'nci.ce �:s -�c i,=1:.icI�i c�r�y tney' en-Ger�c;., He s't ,ed �i;?iat 'L':�e p�'l',itionr,i wa�zlt:� Fio'+� ��e
a�t�tc�:.c�a.zlg ��heausc }-�� z•�as in �Lhe hos��i-tal.
T�i�e Scnn�b�l askc.�. �•rnat the petitioz�er z:Tc�u1d do wi�i:h �cne ex:a.st•_�ri� €;�-:�:�age s
Air. ��7�.�rdr.�":� s�<;i;cd �ha�t; �Fk:�: X;�t�.ti.or�er%�h�.d discta:�secl can.vn:ct�;i.n.�; �c•:;ie t;q.r���e but
cl:idi:E�L �s�rualt �:,c� convE=r� i�; i�l�tt,�:;�i<��.ely/ He wou;�d. 4rait on i,lza�t.
i'6r, ri.�r:�:i;� s,�u�Lecl t;Y?ere wo�.��d �be a p�^�1Qm zai'�h �t�_;;.� l.�uc�.ta.se �t is '� iee�; ��c�s
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Sr;z°. 's3<���.:�dm.�3;a s�vat�c.. �t;iia�t t,a,si�'t h'.s in�erz�i�� a�c �his �oir�c 9.n t�im�a F;e f'e1.'t th�
n:ain thir��; �ras �;h.a�t the exi.sting��ara�� `•:�s a s�.n�le cux� �ar.age r�nd r�lar���cz ?z�ore
garage space.
�ir o Ha.rris rt�zte:d that wr�en di �cussiil�; the �oniziU cGdes� �chey were cor.sider.ing �
��OU io��; m�timu�,, oz� second ac essax�y bui�.d.a.ngs and the,y en�`�rced t�:at on .�ar�eonc
els��.
trir� Cqu_�st st;a�c�a �ha�t was c�i:Cfe.ren� si�us.�Lion because there „*ere h�uses behir�d
it and a.t w�s gaix�� to be sed for. stora�e.
I��. ki�,rris po:iritGcl out �h t :i.t was simi.lar. �iecause i�t covcre� a l�,r�,e por�t:i_on of
tYse wi�.th of the lot alsp.
N,r. &�irx.s asked :for co�unents irom the aud:Lence.
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There were no comment�.
1�1s. Schnabel askad iIj the�e were any commen�s from an�y of the neighlaors regArdin�
this in the i':ile s. �
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Mr. �oardmar� stated' �;here wer.e no calls or comments.
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� Councilwoman Moses stated she personally felt this is a t end that is happening ;
. now and would like to pass this item, rather than table 't. I
� Nr. Herrick stated that some communities have cluster evelopments and felt �
perhaps this might be quite similar where units are v ey close together and i
there is a lot of open space that is coirmonly owned y the entire group.
Councilman Schneider felt there were several issue that this particular plat �
doesn't raise. He indicated he was concerned wi the general maintenance and
also that possibly a developer may find son�e way of using this to totally undo
some areas by not following the intent of the Z ning Code. ; I
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� Councilwoman Moses suggested looking at this oncept in terms ef existing �
structures and at new construction in anothe light. i
Mayor Nee stated he would feel much better f this was in the Zoning Code
as he has a problem of how to rationalize variance, as far as hardship,
since it is now an existing use. �
Mr. Herrick felt that if the Council ha�`any inclinations to authorize this
type of conversion, they could prepare a procedure to allow it, however, if
they felt it was something they didn'�want, there wouldn't be any reason for '
spending i:ime in establishing a procedure.
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MOTION by Councilman Barnette to ta le this item indefinitely for further infor-
mation and refer this concept to t e Planning Commission for their processing
and policy recommendation pertain'ng to the conversion concept. Seconded by
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voi e vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
. the motion carried unanimously. !
NEW QUSINESS: I
RECEIVIWG THE PLANNING COMh1IS ION MINUTES OF MAY 23, 1979: i
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REZONIF�Q REQUEST, ZOA #,�7g-02, BY WILLIAh', J. HART (E431 HIGNWAY n65)• � �
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MOTION by Councilman Schneider to set the public hearing on this rezoning !
request for July 16, 1979. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a i .
. , voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor N�.dee}ared�he motion carried unanimously.
� REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMI�, SP #79-04, D�' JOSEPH PERROZZI (Ei�l '
RIVERVIEW TERRACE : „.__- I
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated a special use permit is required !
due to the flood plain zoning of the property and, in conjunction with the ' �
special use permit, variances are requested for waiver of the setbacks.
Mr. Sobiech stated the entire lot is not in the flood plain, but only the area
along the front of the. property. He stated, in this particular case, they i
would�e raising the first floor with pilings and then raising the lot to insure no '
impact or minimal impact on adjacent properties, i
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�, Mr. Sobiech stated the Planning Com�r�ission recommended approval of this
, special use permit at their May 23 meeting. �
Mr. Sobiech stated he was confident that this drainage plan, as set up, will
handle the drainage. He stated there was discussion at the Planning Commission I
meeting about the amount of slope on the swale section, but ��e felt it was
adequate. i �i
Mr. Sobiech stated the petitioner did propose a certain dimension house for �
the property, however, it was recommended that the house be redesigned to
i eliminate the need for the side yard variance, which was denied by the Appeals
Commission. He stated the Appeals Commission did, however, approve a variance for
� reduction in the area of the lot. i
� Mr. Sobiech felt this was a very good plan as compared with others in the area. �
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated as far as the drainage, the standard rule
in Minnesota is that an owner may develop his property in a reasonable fashion, �
as long as it doesn't unnecessarily burden the neighbor. He stated it is a
very general rule and depends on a situation-by-situation application. ; .
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- I Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated, aside from the policy of whether or not
the Council wishes to have additional rental units or not, the City Code
� states, in order to have a double bungalow, the lots must be a certain size. �
� He pointed out there would be exactly that much space on the lot whether you
i have one family owning and one renting or both of them owning their unit.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated he agreed it doesn't change the density, but
only one person was responsible for the building. He questioned why, if it
� wasn't necessary, it was provided for in the first place.
� Mr. Nerrick felt it was done in order to provide a variety of housing and that
i � it is cheaper to construct a double bungalow on one lot then two single i
ifamily houses on two lots. He felt the concept of conversions a�ith dual owner- �
� ships is a rather new one and was not thought about when the Zoning Code was
adopted.
Councilman Schneider felt this concept might be a way for someone to obtain
two building sites for sale out of what would normally be a single site, I
thera:by circumventing the ordinance. I
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� Mayor Nee felt the entire question had to be reviewed whether or not they �
1�'� wanted "0" lot lines.
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; Mr. Herrick felt the Council should determine if they want to allo�.N existing �
j units of this type to conv.ert from rental to ownership and also if they want �
to permit this concept for new construction. He pointed out, if this was to
' be allowed, the mechanics of it could be done under the code> as it stands
now, or with some simple modifications.
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' Councilman Fitzpatrick stated he was not prepared to allow building on 30 �
; foot lots.
F1r. Qureshi stated it is a question on whether the Council wishes to permit I
� i more rental units or more private ownership. �
� i ; f�1ayor PJee questioned whether one person or several would be responsible for the �
� structure. .
� Mr. Sobiech stated there would be a developmental agreement which would indicate
I that the by-laws would be reviewed and that alould be enforceable because it
is an agreement between the City and developer.
hir. Herrick stated a development agreement would be enforceable, but probably
only until the development is complete, then it is up to the individual I
property owners to operate it, unless it violates some of the City's other
codes.
Councilman Barnette pointed out that these units only have one water meter and (
if one person doesn't pay their bill, how is this handled.
Mr. Sobiech stated it would be covered in the by-laws. Mr. Herrick stated a
lien could also be placed against all the property, if it is a service that is
being used by all.
Councilwoman Moses stated they have this concept in Brooklyn Park and the i
residents pay an additional sum, in addition to their rent, to cover the
costs for utilities.
If ' Mayor Nee questioned, under this concept, if convenants could be put in, such
` as a co-op. Mr. Herrick felt this might be a possibility.
IMr. Sobiech stated the Planning Commission is in the process of reviewing the I
Zoning Code and the Metropolitan Council will be studying this concept in �
� the next several months. I �
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Mr. Herrick questioned if there was a storm sewer in this area and if construction ;
( of this house would prevent water from getting to the storm system. Mr. Sobiech
stated from the grade indicated, he would answer in the negative. �4r. Herrick
� felt the property owner would have a pretty st�ong argument that the City can't .
, j use his property as a drainage basin. He stated he would suspect he could build
ion the property, providing he meets. the other criteria. .
! Councilman fitzpatrick stated Mr. Sobiech has stated there really isn't a
I� problem, but it seems to him if this had been developed by raising the fill (
, two feet, it would shut off the drainage from the northeast.
� � ' Mr. Herrick stated he doesn't have nearly as much trouble with the concept of i
saying he can build, but has to insure drainage, as with the problem of saying i
� he cannot build on this lot because it has to be used for drainage. If you do
this you are saying it is unreasonable or reverse condemnation where the City i
is really taking the lot for public purpose. i
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( Mr. Sobiech felt the concern of the Planning Commission should be reinforced
• regarding the drainage to insure no or minimal impact on the neighbors. '
� MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to grant special use permit, SP #79-09, with '
� the stipulation that the City be satisified that the drainage plan, as described
and discussed, would be maintained in construction. Seconded by Councilman '
Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye> Mayor Nee declared the motion
icarried unanimously. �
RE UEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #79-05, BY JAMES LAfTSON 6740 - 4TH
I STREET :
, Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Director, stated this is a req�est for a special use ;
permit to allow a second accessory building for use as � garage and storage i
of automobiles. i
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' He stated the Planning Commission held a public hear�g and has recommended �
� i ( � approval. ; i
i � Mr. Sobiech stated the petitioner is unable to at�d because of a recent motor-
cycle accident. �
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MOTION by Councilman Barnette to grant special ylse permit, SP #79-05. Seconded
by Council�voman Moses. Upon a voice vote, alljvoting aye, Mayor Mee declared
the motion carried unanimously. � �
REZONING RE UEST, ZOA# 79-04, BY GRAVES�COMPANY 5701 UNIVERSITY AVENUE : �
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to set th public hearing on this rezoning � �
request for July 16, 1979. Seconded by C uncilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the m ion carried unanimously. �
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VACATION RE UEST, SAV #79-02, CITY OF FRIDLEY UNIVERSITY SERVICE ROAD : �
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to set t e public hearing on this vacation request
for July 16, 1979. Seconded by Coun 'lman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the tion carried unanimously.
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VARIANCE RE UEST BY JOSEPH P RROZZI 8181 RIVERUIEW TERRACE : -
Mr. Sobiech, Public Works Direc or, stated this is a request for variances, �
( in conjunction with the special use permit, for construction of a single
� family dwelling in the flood p ain. �
Mr. Sobiech stated the Appeal Commission has recormiended denial of the side I
yard setback and recommende approval of the variance for reduction i� the
area of. the lot.
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Mr. Perrozzi stated the Appeals ommission had made a recommendation to turn �
the_house sideways and if this w�s done, you would not have a view of the riv�r. j
Mr. Perrozzi stated he felt the i�equirement for the ten foot setback was ' �
. excessive, as other communities nly require five feet. Ne felt, if he couldn't �
obtain a variance for the side ya d setvack, the house wouldn't really serve � •
' . his family's needs. Mr. Perrozzi Pointed out that the other houses in the area ��
are not in compliance with the se�back re,quirement.
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Councilman Fitzpatrick felt, i� thje structure gets too close to the adjacent
property, it becomes a fire probldrn and other problems foreseen by adoption I
of the ordinance in the first plaqe. He stated, however, he hates to tell Mr.
Perrozzi he can have a house only 9 feet frontage when he wants 34 feet. I
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hir. Sobiech stated this., again, is the situation that the variance should be i
based on hardship. He stated the ardship here would be that Mr. Perrozzi ;
would have a smaller home. !
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- Cou.cilman Fitzpatrick stated he c�n understand the hardship, but granting the
' variance becomes a public problem. � ',
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FlOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick t � concur with the recommendation of the I
Appeals Commission to grant the va�iance for reduction of the lot area, but to
� deny the variance on the side yard �etback. Secanded by Councilman Schneider.
� Mr. Perrozzi stated the problem with the side yard setback was to make adequate �
facilities for the Fire Department,'but all that was reyuired was nine feet and '
even with the variance of the side yard setback to five feet, there would still be
nine feet between his structure and the neighbor's garage. ;
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Councilman Fitzpatrick felt there wa�, a reason why i:here is a different setback
required when it is a garage to hous� arrangement, as it is assumed the fire i
� aspect is increased at that point. Ne stated he could see the reason for I
� r�iaking the request, but felt a number of allowances have been made on this I
property and his motion would be to concur witn the Appeals Commission. �
P1r. Qureshi, City Manager, pointed out that staff would check the disputed '
variations they have on the map. i � I
Councilman Barnette asked Mr. Perrozzi if the variance for the side yard set- �
back is denied, ir he would still build on this lot. Mr. Perrozzi stated {
he would have to meet with an architeat to design a house to meet.the setback � '
requirements and couldn't make that d�cision until he confers with an architect. �
UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON TNE MOTION,`. all voted aye, and Mayor Nee declared the !
I motion carried unanimously. ; I
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��i0TI01V by Councilman Fitzpatrick to re�eive �he minutes of the Planning Commission
I�1eeting of May 23, 1979. Seconded 6y �ouncilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote,
aJl voting aye, Mayor PJee.declared the?motion carried unanimously. �
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RECEIVING THE CABLE TELEVISIOP� C0�1MISSIOPJ t-1I�IUTES, Of MkY 9, 1979: ' '
MOTION by Councilwoman t�loses to receive the minutes of the Cable Television
Commission Meeting of May 9, 1979. Seconded by Councilman Sc:�neider. Upon a �
voice vote, all voting aye> Mayor P�ee declared the notion carriQd ur�animously.
Councilman Schneider asked for a copy of the attachments referrect to in these I
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COG�SIDERATIO(� OF EXECUTItJG GRANT AGREEMENT 11ITH METROPOLITAN COUNCIL fOR NORTH
PARK VISITATIOI� CEi�T[R GRAPJT: j
Etr. Qureshi, City Plaatc�g+�r, stated all costs for eonstructing the projectS, as � �
described in the program documentation, would be eligible for payment after
April 12, 1979. He stated the ���ximum amount pr.ovided under the grant for non- i
construction costs such as professional, lecal, engineering and architectural ;
services would be 12�. h9r. Qur�esui s�ated there is a.tiroetable for transferring
the raoney and if any interest nwney is made; it would have to be returned.
Councilman Barnette questioned under Item 2, Developmental Policy, the second to ,
the last sentence where reference is made to the Grantee or City, in this case,
agreeing to maximize the use of its own personnel and internal services in ',
connection with the administration and accomplishment of the program. �
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- MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to close the public hearing.; Seconded by �
Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting ay�; Mayor Nee declared i
the motion carried unanimously and the public hearin�losed at 7:44 p.m. �
PUBLIC HEARING ON VACATION RE UEST, SAV �79-04 BY ALLAN M. JOHNSON OF JIM I
MILLER REAL ESTATE 7751 EAST RIVER ROAD : i
MOTION by Councilwoman Moses to waive the reading of tf��public hearing notice i
and open the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice j �
vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion G�rried unanimously and � i
the public hearing opened at 7:45 p.m. ' i �
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated this request inyolves the relocation of an ' !
I easement, which is presently located in the middYe of the property. He stated '
the owner wishes to vacate this easement and pr�avide an easement along the i
East side of the property. � !
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Mr. Qureshi pointed out, in conjunction wit�this vacation request, there j
is a request for a special use permit on wWich action was delayed, at the
request of the petitioner, until they cou d possibly work out something '
with the neighborhood. Mr. Qureshi stat the special use permit involved
the installation of gas pumps to be use in conjunction with a convenience '
store. He stated this vacation reques would be brought back the same
time as the request for the special u e permit, however, regardless of the '
outcome regarding the special use pe it, he felt the easement should be
relocated.
Councilwoman Moses stated she fel this convenience store wouldn't fit in
at this location. Mayor Nee st ed the land is zoned properly for such a use,
however, the special use permi was needed for the gas pumps. �
No persons in the audience s oke for or against this �racation request. j
' MOTION by Councilman Fitzp trick to close the public hearing. Seconded by j
Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously and the public hearin l.osed--at-7:50 p� �' �
PUBLIC HEARING (INFORMAL FOR REVIEWING SPECIAL E PERMIT SP #,7g-04 FOR 1 � I
COUNCIL TO RE-EXAMINE NEW PROPOSED HOUSE PLAfJS BY PERR �
� RIVERVIEW TERRACE:
The informal public hearing was opened by the Council at 7:50 p.m. Mr. Qureshi, '
City Manager, stated the Council has approved a special use permit for this
property, but didn't approve the variances requested and asked the petitioner
II� to come back with a plan that would meet the re uirements of the cod
9 e. '
Mr. Qureshi stated the plan now proposed by Mr. Perrozzi does meet all the I
requirements of the zoning ordinance, except staff felt it appropriate to ;
advise the neighborhood what type of house they are proposing. '
Mr. Qureshi stated notices were sent to all adjoining properties to make sure '
they are aware of what is proposed to be built on this property and if they !
had arly objections, they could voice them here this evening. �
Mr. Qureshi stated what is proposed is an "A" frame with two floors and a I
sizeable attic.
Councilman Fitzpatrick asked if they would be using a pile driving technique, I
as previously discussed. Mr. Perrozzi stated they wouldn't be using this
technique, however, there wouldn't be a basement.
Councilwonan Moses asked how much taller this home would be from a normal two- � i
story dwelling. Mr. Qureshi stated it would be about 8 feet, 9 inches higher. '
ICouncilman Fitzpatrick stated he didn't believe the neighbors a�ere aware of I
' the details of the plan. Mr. Qureshi stated it was put in the notices that !
this was an unusual plan and was the reason they wer�e notified because of this �
aspect, even though a public hearing isn't required. �
Councilman Fitzpatricl: stated he talked with some of the neighbors and they had !
other concerns about things such as drainage. He felt they were unaware of the �
peculiarities of the house plan. �
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OCTOBER 15, 1979
The Public Hearing Meeting of the Fridley City Council was called to order
; at 7:35 p, m. by Mayor Nee.
� PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
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I Mayor Nee led the Council and audience in the Pledge of Allegiance to the
l Flag.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Nee, Councilman Fitzpatrick, Councilwoman �
Moses, Councilman Schneider and Councilman Barnette
� (arrived at 7:43 p.m.)
� MEMBERS ABSENT: None
� APPROVAL Of MINUTES:
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REGULAR MEETING, SEPTEMBER 24, 1979 (TABLED OCTOBER 1, 1979)•
' MOTION by Councilwoman h1oses to approve the minutes of September 24, 1979 I
as presented . Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to adopt the agenda as submitted. Seconded by
Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the
motion carried unanimously. i
� PUBLIC HEARINGS: �
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! , PUf3LIC NEARING ON REZONING �EQUEST, ZOA #79-06, TO REZONE FROM C2S to M-1 �
' FOR CONSTRUCTiON OF NEW INDUSTRIAL BUILDING, BY JAMES E. LONDON AND MICHAEL
' � D. GANNUCCI, 7582-II4 A6LE STREET: �
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� IMOTION by Councilwoman Moses to waive the reading of the public hearing
I notice and open the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. '
i Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried ',
unanimously and the public hearing opened at 7:38 m. Mr.
Manager, stated the property involved in the rezonPn is 4ureshi, City
at 1175 73-1/2 Avenue and involves Lots 7, 8 and 9 of B1o9kn1,aCentral�View �
i Manor. He stated the property to the East of this parcel is zoned ir�dustrial ;
� so this would be contiguous to existing industrial property.
; Mr. Qureshi stated the purpose of the rezoning is for construction of an
j industrial building for double occupancy.
�� Councilwoman Moses stated it is presently zoned for general shopping and I
asked if any existing use presently fits into that category.
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Mr. Qureshi stated the only use that is commercial in nature is the trailer �
sales.to the North and West of proposed property. He felt the rezoning is
compatible with the surrounding area. At this time, 7:43 p.m. , Councilman '
Barnette arrived at the meeting. Councilwoman Moses asked the type of business i
( and the amount of �lientele they would anticipate. j
IMr. Gannucci, one of the petitioners, stated half of the building would be 'I
used for an elect�ical contracting business and the o '
� ther half for a general �
' construction business. He stated the only persons that would probably be in
, the building would be their own employees. He felt this business wouldn't
have more than five employees at one time and London Construction would prob- I
ably have about tY�e same amount of employees. i
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; No other persons in the audience spoke for or against this rezoning. �
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� Mr. Qureshi stated the purpose of this informal hearing was so they could review �
the plan.
j Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated, basically, the question is if the house I
i meets the code requirements, he was not certain Council had any authority i
� to say the design has to be one way or another. He stated the purpose of the '
� special use permit is to make sure it is built high enough to avoid flooding �
during high water and to avoid causing extraordinary problems to the surrounding i
� area.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated he would agree, but the Council is in the
� position of having people review it and then telling them they really don't
have any authority anyway.
Mr. Herrick stated they are not asking anyone to review it as far as the
architectural style.
a Mr. Qureshi stated they wanted to make the neighbors aware of the plan, as the
� plan originally approved by Council was entirely different. Mr. Nerrick asked
if the house is higher than what the building code permits. j
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Mr. Qureshi stated there was rio feet height requirements of this type. �
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� Mr• Roy Klingbeil, 8199 Riverview Terrace, stated he assumes they are proposing �
� building this way because of high water and pointed out, in 1965, when the water I
was supposed to be the highest, it never came up to his home. He felt, if the
house is built as proposed, it would depreciate the value of other people's !
'i property. He stated a remark was made to him that the reason the house is to i
be built this way was because if they didn't like it, it could be taken out.
IHe stated he didn't feel the plan for the house fits in with the area. Mayor I
Nee pointed out that the City Attorney indicated that the City wouldn't have '
the authority to deny it based on the design. '
�� Mr. Roy Klingbeil stated the Council has the authority to protect the people's
rights so that their property values aren't lowered.
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Councilman Fitzpatrick felt if this home is going to be much higher than rambler �
� height, it would be somewhat of a problem, but they have been advised regarding
� their authority.
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I�� i No other persons in the audience spoke regarding the proposed house plans.
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� MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to close the informal hearing. Seconded by '
i� � Councilman Schneider. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
� the motion carried unanimously and the hearing closed at 8:05 p. m.
� PUBLIC HEARING ON COP1PREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN:
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I ON by Councilman Fitzpatrick to waive the reading of the public hearing I
notic nd open the public hearing. Seconded by Councilman Schneider. Upon �
a voice all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously �
� ; and the publi aring opened at 8:08 p.m.
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,� Mr. Qoardman, City Pla r, stated this Comprehensive Development Plan has
gone through an extensive blic process through the Planning Commission and �
its member Commissions. He s ted different sections of the plan were re- !
: viewed by the different commissi , and the Planning Commission has reviewed �
' � all the sections.
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� � Mr. Boardman stated the document is divide ' to seven different sections, as �'
� follows: Land use; Environmental Resources; C ' ical Area; Housing; Parks ;
� and Open Space; Transportation and Water, Sewer a Solid Waste. He stated ;
� it is split up in these particular sections primaril ecause of the require-
ments of the Metropolitan Council. I
� . Mr. Boardman stated, in 1976, the Legislature passed the Me politan Land �
Planning Act which requires communities, schools and other pub 'c agencies
. to do mandatory public planning. He stated the Metropolitan Coun '1 has
� the responsibility to review these plans and approve or make recomm ndations �
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regarding the plan so changes they feel are necessary for regional develop-
ment can be made. He stated the City must have some comprehensive planning ;
completed and the capital improvements and implementation strategies approved
b December 31 1979. He stated the Cit is tr in to meet d
Y � Y y g the esired goals ;
to accomplish the comprehensive planning process by the end of this year. �
He stated it is necessary to hold public hearings before the Planning Com- �
mission and the City Council regarding this Comprehensive Plan. He stated, �
once the plan is approved by the Council, it has to be submitted to neigh-
boring communities for their comments to be forwarded to the Metropolitan
Council. He stated the Metropolitan Council also reviews the plan regarding � i
regional policies.
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Mr. Boardman briefly summarized the direction of the Comprehensive Plan I
as it relates to the key issues of land use, environmental resources, housing, i
parks and recreation and transportation.
Mayor Nee stated he had a lot of comments regarding this plan and felt it
should be discussed at a conference meeting.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated he hasn't seen the plan, and if it in- �
volves enforcement or interpretation, he indicated he would like to review
1 t. �
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Councilman Schneider stated, in the Housing Section where reference is made '',
to 2,300 additional housing units, he asked if they could obtain the correct ;
figure. • �
Mr. Boardman stated the figure has changed somewhat, but the policies haven't I
changed that much and this can be discussed at the conference meeting. j
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Mr. Qureshi stated that notice was given that this was a public hearing on �
the Comprehensive Plan.
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MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick ta close the public hearing. Seconded by '
Councilman Schneider. 1 ;
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Councilman Schneider stated all �ommissions have done a commendable job in �
bringing the plan to this prese�t form. He stated the planning staff and I
the Commission have put a lot of work into this Comprehensive Plan.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated'he concurred with Councilman Schneider's �
comments and felt the staff and Commissions deserve a lot of credit.
UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON 7'HE MOTION, all voted aye, and Mayor Nee declared �
the motion carried unanimously. Mayor Nee felt something s,hould be done to ;
make this document available to the public. Mr. Boardman stated it is avail-
able at the library and City Hall. Mayor Nee stated if the City receives a
similar document from other surrounding cities, it doesn't really state what
is proposed. Mr. Boardman stated the actual proposals would be in the capital
improvements and implementation document. �
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Councilman Schneider qpestioned if staff had any idea of the cost to prepare !
this plan. Mr. Boardr�an stated the total cost was about$32,000, with $22,000
being paid by the Het.ropolitan Council. j
Mr. Herrick asked if'the plan was submitted to the Chamber of Commerce and ,
other local civic g�^oups. Mr. Boardman stated he has met with several groups
and reviewed the plan. ;
Mr. Qureshi sugyes'ted further discussion of the plan at a conference meeting �
and then determine how the Council wishes to proceed. �
OLD BUSINESS: I
CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR BUILDING A STEEL BUILDING GARAGE FOR AN EXIST- ;
ING HOUSE AT 774& ELM STREET IN A NON-CON'rORMING INDUSTRIAL AREA TABLED 10/1/79): ,
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Mr. Qureshi , City Manager, stated this is a request from Mr. Anderson to j
build a steel garage at 7748 Elm Street. He stated staff's concern was that !
the garage would be an extension of a non-conforming use and a step further �
away from the policy the City has maintained regarding non-conforming uses. i
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 24, 1982
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the March 24, 1982, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel , Mr. Kondrick, Ms. van Dan, Mr. Saba
Members Absent: Mr. Harris, Mr. Svanda
Others Present: Jerro]d Boardman, City Planner
Robert C. Lindbloom, 6633 Cherokee L�ne
Joseph Perrozzi , 5100 Vincent Ave. I�`o.
Jim Prokopowicz, 4332 Washington S . N.E.
Chester Schack, 685 Glencoe St. N. .
Donald & Doris Schneppmueller, 81 1 Riverview Terrace N.E.
R. H. Klingbiel , 8199 Riverview errace N.E.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 10, 1982, PLANNING COMMISSION INUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO PPROVE THE MARCH I0, 1982,
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CH RPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1 . PUBLIC HEARING: RE UEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #82-01 , BY JOSEPH PEROZZI :
�approva o a Specia se erm�t, - , er ec ion . , , ,
to allow the construction of a dwelling in the flood plain (CPR-2 Zoning) on
Lots 28 and 29, Block R, Riverview Heights, the same being 8181 Riverview
Terrace N.E.
MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SP #82-01 BY JOSEPH PEROZZI.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:38 P.M.
Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Perozzi had applied for a specia7 use permit in 1979. It
was heard by both the Planning Commission and City Council , and the City Council
approved that specia7 use permit in 1979. The dwelling was not constructed within
one year, and since no extension was applied for, the special use permit had expired.
At this point in time, Mr. Perozzi is submitting a new special use permit for the
construction of a building.
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Mr. Boardman stated that in 1979, Mr. Perozzi went to the Appeals Commission,
and the Appeals Commission granted a variance for lot size, but did not grant him
a variance on the side yard setback, based on the building that was being proposed
to be constructed on the site. Mr. Boardman stated that at the Appeals Commission
meeting on March 16, 1982, the Appeals Commission again recommended approval on the
lot size, but this time there is a different building design that does not require
the side yard setback. Otherwise, all the things are essentially the same as
described in 1979, including the drainage and elevation requirements, and those
things were agreeable in 1979.
Mr. Boardman stated Staff has no problems with the approval of this special use
permi t.
Ms. van Dan asked if the building was going to be built on the lot as it is now or
if the lot was going to be elevated.
Mr. Perozzi stated fill will be brought in to meet the elevation requirements.
Mr. Kondrick asked if it was Mr. Perozzi 's intent to build his house on the same
level as the surrounding homes.
Mr. Perozzi stated, yes, that was his intent.
Mr. Boardman stated that with any construction, they have to meet all the require-
ments as far as sewer traps and those kinds of things. The City's main concern is
the drainage and making sure the lot is graded so the water drains out to the street
to the catch basin.
Mr. R. H. Klingbeil , 8199 Riverview Terrace, stated he lives right next door, and
Mr. Perozzi is running very close to the grade on his property. He did not believe
there was a contractor in the City of Minneapolis that could hold a grade like that.
He would like to know who is going to check this to make sure the water does not
drain into the other properties. He stated that Mr. Perozzi 's building is so high,
it is going to block the sun, and it will be the highest house in a block that is
mostly ramblers.
Mr. Donald Schneppmueller, 8151 Riverview Terrace N.E. , stated he lives on the
south side of this lot. He stated Riverview Terrace goes up from the Creek. Once
Mr. Perozzi raises his lot level with Mr. Schneppmueller's, his driveway will be
constantly flooded. He stated they have gotten a petition signed by people in the
neighborhood. He submitted this petition to the Planning Comnission, along with
pictures of his lot and Mr. Perozzi 's lot.
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO RECEIVE THE PETITION AGAINST THE
BUILDING OF A DWELLING ON IATS 28 AND 29, BLOCK R, RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 24, 1982 PAGE 3
Mr. Oquist read the petition into the record:
"This is a petition against the building of a dwelling on Lots 28 and 29,
Block R, Riverview Heights, in CPR Zoning, Flood Plain, the same being
8181 Riverview Terrace N.E. The dwelling would be built on a 50 ft, lot
between two existing homes which would be a first on Riverview Terrace.
This type of building would create crowding and wou7d open the door for
other such buildings in our area. We are sure this type of building would
not be allowed next to $100-200,000 homes."
_ UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
The Planning Commission members reviewed the drainage plan which showed the water
draining out to the street.
Mr. Boardman stated that on agenda page 20 (City Council minutes, June 4, 1979),
the City Council made a moti.on "to grant special use permit SP #79-04, with the
stipulation that the City be satisfied that the drainage plan, as described and
discussed, would be maintained in construction". At that time, Mr. Herrick, City
Attorney, had stated that, "as far as drainage, the standard rule in Minnesota is
that an owner may develop his property in a reasonable fashion, as long as it
doesn't unnecessarily burden the neighbor" and "he doesn't have nearly as much
trouble with the concept of saying he can build, but has to insure drainage, as
with the problem of saying he cannot build on this lot because it has to be used
for drainage".
Mr. Boardman stated that right now this lot is being used for drainage, and that
is not what a lot should be used for. Any owner of a piece of property has the
right to develop that property as long as it doesn't unnecessarily burden the
neighbor. He stated the City Engineers have reviewed the drainage plan, and they
feel the plan is adequate for taking the water out of the property without causing
undue hardship on the neighbors.
Ms. Doris Schneppmueller questioned whether it meant anything that all the
neighbors were against this building. She stated all the neighbors are very
upset about it, and that is why they submitted the petition.
Mr. Saba asked how much higher Mr. Perozzi ' s house would be than the rest of the
neighborhood.
Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Perozzi 's house height would be about 24 feet. Most
rar�iblers are about 15 feet in height. Under R-1 zoning, the City allows a
maximum height of 30 feet.
Mr. Klingbeil stated that if this building is built, the City Inspector should
be sure he checks those grades.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 24, 1982 PAGE 4
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SP �82-01 BY JOSEPH PEROZZI.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:17 P.M.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK,SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #82-01� BY JO5EPH PEROZZI, FOR
THE REAPPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, 5P #79-04, PER SECTION 205.157, 5� D�
TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTIDN OF A DWELLING IN THE FLOOD PLAIN (CPR-2 ZONING) ON
LOTS 28 AND 29, BLOCK R, RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS, THE SAME BEING 8181 RIVERVIEW TERRACE N.E.,
WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE CITY BE SATISFIED THAT THE DRAINAGE PLAN, AS DESCRIBED
AND DISCUSSED, WOULD BE MAINTAINED IN CONSTRUCTIDN.
Mr. Saba stated he was also concerned about the drainage, but the plan looked like
it would work.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
Mr. Oquist stated SP #82-01 would go to City Council for action on April 5.
2. RECEIVE MARCH 3, 1982, ENERGY COMMISSION MINU,�ES:
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MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, �'b RECEIVE THE MARCH 3� 1982� ENERGY
COMMISSIDN MINUTES.
Mr. Saba stated there has been a major revis�on made to the Housing Maintenance
Code for rental property. At the last Ener:gy Commission meeting on March 23, the
Commission commended Staff for putting things together. Basica7ly the energy
regulations are adopted out of the State ;�nergy Agency's Code, requiring a 5-year
payback, improvements to be made immedi�tely, with a 18-year payback to be made
by July 1 , 1983. If enforced properly� this revision should dramatically contribute
to the energy efficiency of rental pr4perty in the City. It is a major step, and
they hope it does what it is supposed'to do. He stated there is a pretty heavy
penalty for non-compliance.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE�,'VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
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CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Saba stated the Commission h�d also made a motion to support the Environmental
Quality Commission's efforts i�' recycling and recommended that the energy conserva-
tion aspect of recycling be e�hasized as well as the cleaning up of the environment.
If the Environmental Quality orrnnission would like to meet jointly with the Energy
Commission, they wou7d be ha�py to meet with them.
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3. RECEIVE MARCH 4, ]982, UMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN, S ONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE 1NARCH 4� 1982,
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISS N MINUTES.
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►�l CONSIDERATION OF FIRST READIN6 OF AN ORDINA�dCE TO AMEPlD THE CITY CODE
� OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY BY MAKI(�G A CHAN6E IN Z t7ItJG DISTRICTS - DOT /
WELLNER ADDITION:
PtOTION by Councilman Hamernik to waive the eading and approve the
ordinance upon first reading. Seconded b Councilman Barnette. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mdyor Nee eclared the motion carried
unanimously.
� g RECEIVING THE PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MI TES Of H 24 1982:
, Q REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PER T SP #82-01 REAPPROVAL OF SP #79-04)
p A TO ALLOW COtJSTRUCTION OF DWE D PLAIN CPR-2 ZONINGJ,
8181 RIVERVIEW TERRACE, JOSEPFI PEROZZI:
Mr. Flora, Qublic Works Director, stated Mr. Perozzi applied for a
special use permit in 1979 which was approved by the Planning Commission
and City Council, however, no work was started or any extension applied
for and the permit has now expired. Mr. Flora stated, therefore, Mr.
. Perozzi has made another request for a special use permit for building
on his property.
Mr. Flora stated the Appeals Commission reviewed this request and granted
a variance for the lot size, and no set back variance was granted this
time, as it was not needed since the placement of the structure on the
lot has been changed.
Mr. Flora stated the City's concern was the drainage and there will be
swales and acatch basin.
He stated the Planning Commission has recommended approval of this special
use permit, with the stipulation that the City be satisfied that the
drainage plan, as described and discussed, would be obtained in. construction.
� Mr. Flora stated the staff's position is that they would like to insure
the elevation of the first floor, of this two story structure, be construc-
ted above 827 feet and the drainage is worked out in accordance with
' the plan proposed.
. Councilman Fitzpatrick stated one of the things that bothered residents
was that this proposed structure would be high in comparison with the
adjacent structures. He stated he is sympathetic to the persons who
objected to it, however, what is proposed is totally within the ordinances.
• Mr. Perozzi, the petitioner, stated he would be building the home for
occupancy by himself and would contact the people on either side of him
so they would know what he is proposing. He stated he has ha� some
contact with the person to the north, and felt any problems could be
worked out, however, he hasn't been in contact with the person to the
south.
Mr. Perozzi felt they have the drainage worked out and it wouldn't be
a problem, He stated he has consulted with engineers and take their
word that the drainage wil7 work.
MOTIOtr by Counci7man Fitzpatrick to concur with the unanimous recommenda-
tion of the Planning Commission and grant Special Use Permit, SP #82-01,
. with the stipulation that the City staff oversee the proposed drainage
� from the lot. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
P10TIOiJ by Councilman Fitzpatrick to receive the minutes of the Plannina
Commission Meeting of �larch 24, 1982. Seconded by Councilman Hamernik.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried
unanimously.
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9 CONSIDERATION OF RECOMPIENDATION OF ClN�1MUNITY DEVELOPp1 f�T COMMISSION
ESTABLISHIP�G A PROJECT COMMITTEE TO STUDY P�EI6NBORH00 CONCEPTS:
h10TI0N by Councilman Schneider to concur with the s�ggestion of the
Corrmunity Development Commission to establish a proaect comnittee to
study neighborhood concepts. Seconded by Council n Hamernik. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared he motion carried
unanimously.
1 � RECEIVING BIDS AND AWARDING CONTRACT FOR PURCH E OF SEWER JETTER
BIDS OPENED MARCH 24, 1982 : �
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MOTIOP� by Councilman Hamernik to receive the/�bids for a sewer jetter
and truck, j
BID TRUCK & MOUt�1fED TRADE-IPl NET COST
VENDOR BOND SEWER MACHI7E ALLOWAhCE GASOLINE
Flexible Pipe St. Paul 1982 Myer MHV7-15165
Tool Company Fire/Mar. 1982 Forc�C-700 truck �11,495.00 $34,267.00
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Bryan Equipment Federated FMC Jo�in Bean Model
company Inc. Dlutual 6540 �4`ewer Jet-F C-700 $10,374.34 $42,822.39
OPTIONAL TRUCK [�IESEL OPTIOPIAL SEWER OPTION TO
VENDOR EN6INE-COST DIF ERENCE DIESEL-COST DIF. LEASE-YEP,RLY
Flexible Pipe 84" CA N/A w/ iesel engine
Tool Company $4,550.00 ad tional $4,695.00 add. no bid
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Bryan Equipment /� 36,48,60
� Company Inc. $4,775.00 ;additional $6,�47.00 add. months lease
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Seconded by Councilman Fit patrick. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor
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Mr. Flora, Public Works �irector, stated bids v�ere received for a high
velocity sewer cleaner �nd truck chassis, and the bid included an alter-
nate price for a diesel, powered engine for the sewer cleaner and the truck.
Mr. Flora stated it w felt the diesel truck would not be warranted, at
. this-�ime, but the di sel pump would be desirable. He stated the low
bidder for a Myers se er cleaner and Ford truck was Flexible Pipe To.ol �
Company in the amoun of $38,962, and recorrmended this bid be accepted.
MOTION by Councilma Schneider to award the contract for a Myers sewer
cleaner and Ford t ck to the low bidder, Flexible Pipe Tool Company for
a total cost of $3 ,962. Seconded by Councilman Barnette. Upon a voice
vote, all voting e, Mayor Nee declared the motion carried unanimously.
1 1 RESOLUTION N0. 2 -1982 ORDERING PRELIMINARY PLAPlS, SPECIFICATIONS APJD
ESTIMATE OF COST THEREOF: STREET I�iPROVEMENT PROJECT N0. ST. 19E2-1:
AND
RESOLUTION N0. 7-1982 ORDERING PRELIMINARY PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS AND
ESTIMATE OF CO TS THEREOF�: WATER AND SANITARY SEWER PROJECT N0. 136:
MOTION by Cou cilman Hamernik to adopt Resolution No. 26-1982 and
Resolution N 27-1982. Seconded by Councilman Fitzpatrick. Upon a
voice vote, �71 voting aye, Mayor PJee declared the motion carried
unanimously.;
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That drainage be designed to ensure no holding of �vater from properties
to the east, and that no �vater wouid remain under the house.
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`��'� CITY COUNCIL April 26, 1982
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ryh ACTI4PJ TAKEN NOTICE
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�' Joseph Perrozzi
5100 Vincent Avenue North ,
Minneapolis, Mn 55430
Dear Mr. Perrozzi :
On April 5, 1982 , the Fridley City Council officially
approved your request for Special Use Permit SP �R -� (ll fnr R1R1 R;��pr��iew Terrace
• with the stipulations list�d belovr:
1 . The City staff oversee the proposed drainage from the lot.
If you have any quest�ons regarding the above action, olease call the
Cormnuni ty Devel opr��nt Offi ce at 571-3450.
Since ely,
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Please review the noted stipulat:cr:s, sign the statement below, and return
one copy to the City of Fridley.
Concur with action taken.