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APPROVAL OF FENCE IN ROW 560-3450 City '7"i.11'y { ANOKA COUNTY 6431 UNIVERSITY AVENUE NE FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55421 September 14, 1972 i N 0 T I C E There will be a meeting of the Plats & Subdivisions- Streets & Utilities Subcommittee on Wednesday, September 20, 1972 at 7:00 P.M. in the Council Chambers to discuss the future use of the 33 foot easement between 57th Place and 572 Avenue and University Avenue and Seventh Street. As any decision would directly affect your property, we would appreciate your attendance and comments. ELDON SCHMEDEKE Chairman Plats & Suvdivisions Streets & Utilities Subcommittee CC: David J. Lyytinen Peter Newrurer Ralph J. Franke Robert Amborn Glen R. Ramsdell Plats & Subs -Str & Util. Mtg. - August 30, 1972 Page 4 3. PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT P.S. 472-04 BY MRS. FLORENCE SWANSON: Generally lying South of Ironton Street and West of Ashton Avenue. No one was present for the petition. Mr. Clark explained that five lots were proposed with two lots facing Ironton being 80 feet wide. From the standpoint of area of the lots , they will meet the 9,000 square foot requirement. The corner lot will also meet the minimum requirement. The street along the West side is paved and the utilities are in. Ashton Avenue is just a dirt street. The property South of here was recently purchased by the City for a park. The .only problem is that part of the land (approximately 50 feet abutting Ashton Avenue) is zoned Light Industrial, the rest is zoned R-1. With the park at the South, that area becomes P-Park Land. The zoning should be changed. It might be possible to change by mutual agreement. The buildings to the West are residental. Since the area that is zoned M-1 is the rear yard, the petitioner should be asked to put some sort of planting screen up. We can't ask the industrial people to come across the street and put up a screen. The front of the houses will be on the cul de sac. Mr. Clark continued that there was nothing wrong with a plat providing their own screen. He did not think they would necessarily want to require a fence. Mrs. Swanson is asking for one building permit for a model home. She is placing that house on Lot 1, fronting on Ironton Street, with a detached garage. MOTION by French, seconded by Engdahl, that the Plats & Subdivisions- streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission approval of the Preliminary Plat, P.S. #72-04, by Mrs. Florence Swanson, with the stipulation that Lots 1 and 2 be each 80 feet, that the portion of the plat zoned M-1 be rezoned to R-1, that a green living strip be planted along the Easterly side bordering Ashton Avenue at the time of the building. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. French stated that the neighborhood is quite nice. Mr. Clark added that Mrs. Swanson plans building modular houses. This type of house will have a low roof profile and are fairly low priced homes. 4. REQUEST FOR PERMISSION TO PUT A FENCE ACROSS AN EASEMENT BY ROBERT AMBORN: Easement next to Lot 1, Block 4, City View Addition. No one was present to discuss the request. Mr. Clark said it was felt that something should be done so that the residents will know whether the 33 foot easement is a street, walkway or vacate it. Plats & Subs.-Str. & Util. Mtg. - August 30, 1972 Page 5 Mr. French said he did not think he would like to see the street open because the people would still have the same problem and probably compounded somewhat. Acting Chairman Meissner said he felt whatever was done should go South to 57th Avenue. The Subcommittee did not think a fence would be the answer. They felt a walkway would not satisfy the petitioner. Once a foot path was established, it would be used. Mr. French wondered if it didn't boil down to either a walkway or vacate it. Mr. Clark said another problem is that 58th Avenue does not go over to 7th Street. Mr. French said the easement between 57th Place and 572 Avenue was mowed and looked good, but the one to the South between 57th Avenue and 57th Place was not as well maintained. Mr. Clark said that the sewer was in the easement on the block to the South, but it was not in the North block. Mr. Meissner asked what the City's policy of someone putting "private" on public land was. Mr. Clark answered that they have done it. In this case, the easement should be either open or vacated. If it were vacated, the adjacent property owners would have to pick up their share of the tax levy. The Subcommittee felt they would like a little more time to study the request and asked that owners adjacent to the easement be sent notices of the meeting and asked to attend, including the people in the block to the South. MOTION by French, seconded by Forster, that the Plats & Subdivisions- Streets & Utilities Subcommittee table the request for a fence across the right of way between 57th Place and 5712 Avenue to the next meeting and that notices be sent to the people adjacent to the right of way and also the right of way to the lot immediately South be invited to the next meeting of this Subcommittee. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by French, seconded by Engdahl, that the Subcommittee meeting be adjourned at 9:30 P.M. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Respectfully ,submitted Hazel O'Brian Recording Secretary Mailing List for Request for Fence Across 3 oot easement between 57th Place an z Avenue. Lots 14 & 15, Block 6: David J. Lyytinen (Apartment) 218 Gramercy Ave. No. , Mpls. 55405 Peter Newrurer 7125 Jersey Ave. No. , Mpls. 55428 Lots 10 - 15, Block 3: Ralph J. Franke 369 57th Place Fridley Lots 1 & 2, Block 4: Robert R. Amborn 405 57th Place Fridley Lots 1 & 2, Block 5: Glen R. Ramsdell 400 57th Place Fridley For Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee Mailed September 14, 1972 Request for permission to fence across an easement next to Lot I, Block 4, City View. J I /Y//!CORNER ;.; .... ---AVENUE,- ------. — . ?-B 3 `y3 S Z 3ri,1211 %"—. n•t�_ Ss=. zg — 19 Z7 '. f...-i: 7 ?1_ —r 2s.- .; -? '7 k, 2 /° ; l 1 . TWv PLACE Z.; 6: i W 25 Zi 7 ; ,c_. - _ ' ut2 - 13� �� I r- --- 2S — O `1'st- J z; ' n 2 .—�,u - -�� 2J 9 9 �'' w 7 29 S _- �Z_r :2 1 a a�� k� ll /9 ..`L...• - H 17 /9 /7 0 TH AVENUE N.E. Z1 Z ! i 13 I,.._ • e .. v� ,6 l y c2 zB j 1 Ie m 17 z 2 G ;� 21 0 2 L` .S...t � __—._—_ —.— ti,;0 w .� _ .le.i[—�=M le _3_ �� :!•t, _Z_— _¢— —Z7 - _ r. 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PA r „ ... CH[RI LANE ri L 54 TH, AVENUE N.E. h. Vie* s= {�8..«—A1ffNUE N E t}ffiER _R A .. - �--- -#AT a.f�_� ;-.-� TT_"�f__t 1 Planning Commission Meetingz- October 4, 1972 Page 8 Mr. Swenson said that eventually he would take the Nagel house down and use one wall of this building as the wall of the next building. The drive- way between his store and the VFW is his property. Mt. Clark said the building plans meet the Code. MOTION by Zeglen, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Commission close the Public Hearing of the Special Use Permit request, SP #72-13, by Gordon G. Swenson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Schmedeke, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of the Special Use Permit, SP #72-13, by Gordon G. Swenson to construct a building to be used for a repair shop specializing in brakes under City Code 45.101, B, 3 D at 1010 Osborne Road with the garage doors on the rear of the building. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 3. PUBLIC _HEARING• REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #72-14, BY ERNEST M. HARPER: To construct a detached second garage to house one car and boat on Lot 2, Block 1, Rice Creek Plaza North Addition per Code 45.051, 2 A. Mr. Ernest Harper was present. MOTION by Fitzpatrick, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Planning Com- mission waive the reading of the Public Hearing for the Special Use Permit, SP #72-14, by Ernest M. Harper. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. The comment was made by Chairman Erickson that the lot backs up to industrial property. The existing building is 14.4 feet from the side lines. • Mr. Harper said that this was the only feasible way to go. He will give enough for the driveway. He plans to put in a concrete driveway. The garage will have a hipped roof. Mr. Clark told Mr. Harper that there is a six foot easement along the • rear of the lot. He would have to stay off that. MOTION by Minish, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission close the Public Hearing of the Special Use Permit, SP #72-14, by Ernest M. Harper. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Minish, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of the request for a Speaial Use Permit, SP #72-14 by Ernest M. Harper to construct a detached second garage to house one car and boat on Lot 2, Block 1, Rice Creek Plaza North Addition per Code 45.051, 2 A. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 4, EEUE� ST FOR PERMISSION TO PUT A FENCE ACROSS AN EASEMENT BY ROBERT AMBORN: „ asc�nn $p Lot 1, Block 4, City View Addition. ki. ' Amborn was present. i Planning Commission Meeting - October 4, 1972 Page 9 Mr. Schmedeke explained that the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee asked the four property owners involved in this problem to meet with the Subcommittee on September 20, 1972. Three of the four owners came and all preferred to have this strip closed. The general feeling of the Subcommittee was that if it would not be opened for a street, it should be vacated. Going a step further, they considered the extension of 5718 Avenue between 6th and 7th Streets to allow traffic going South on 4th, 5th and 6th Streets to make an easier route to 57th Avenue. There are alleys and sub- streets all over the City of Fridley that he hoped to work on or clean up. Mr. Clark said that the 33 foot strip would be divided in half. Mr. Amborn said that he had talked to the neighbor on the West and they had tried to get the crossing closed because of the mini-bikes, snow- mobiles and just everything goes through there. Mr. Clark said that many things were discussed by the Subcommittee. Mr. Amborn's request was just to fence it off. The Subcommittee felt it should be made into a street and vacated. If they did not want a street there, perhaps a walkway or sidewalk could be the answer. The final decision was to recommend vacating entirely and divide the easement in half. If Mr. Amborn wanted to fence it, he should get in touch with Mr. Frank, the owner on the West side. Fourth Street does connect with 57th Avenue and 57th Place. Having another intersection that close to one that is also being heavily travelled might be dangerous. The Commission wondered, if by closing this easement, they would be creating a long block. In the discussion it was pointed out there are many blocks in the City the same length or longer. Mr. Amborn said there are not very many young people with families living between this block and University Avenue. Besides most of the traffic is coming from the West to the East. Mr. Schmedeke called attention to Block 32, Hyde Park Addition saying it was a good example of the type of clean up work he would like to see. MOTION by Schmedeke, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of vacating the 33 foot wide extension of 5th Street between 57th Avenue and 57th Place and also to vacate the 33 foot strip between 37th Place and 57th Avenue and that the City retain a 20 foot wide utility easement for the inplace sanitary sewer. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ADJOURNMENT: There being no further business, Chairman Erickson adjourned the meeting at 10:15 P.M. Respectfully submitted Hazel O'Brian Recording Secretary ;Iovem,ber 2 , 1972 Mr. Robert R. Araborn 405 - 57th Place Fridley , Minnesota 55432 RL : Fencing of City Right of Way Across a 33 ft . Easement Between 57th Place and 57 1/2 Avenue Dear Mr. Amborn: The City Council of Fridley , at their Meeting of October 16 , 1972 , has authorized the fencing; of the above mentioned public right of way with the following stipulations ; the City retains the right to use the right of way if it is needed in the future and if the utilities existing in the right of way need repair, you will remove and replace the fence at your expense . DI hope that you will find this satisfactory, if you Tuve any questions please feel free to call Darrel Clark or myself at the .Engineering Office , 560-3450 . Yours very truly , NASIM M. QURESIII , P .E. 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