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ADDRESS DATE
PLANNING CONHISSION: P.N. DATE �w/� / APPROVED / DISAPPROVED
DATE NO 2
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CITY COUNCIL: APPROVED_( DISAPPROVED DATE NO
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STREET LOCATION OF PROPER
LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY
PRESENT ZONING CLASSIFICATION EXISTING USE OF PROPERTY�/�2�yO.' �---�
ACREAGE OF PROPERTY DESCRIBE BRIEFLY THE PROPOSED TYPE OF USE AND
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Has th resent applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? __des _310.
What was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of property
within 300 feet must be attached to this application. (b) This application must be
signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation given why this is not the
case, (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure ,
to list the names and addresses of all residents and property owners of property in
question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the
following: 1. North direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot. F
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, 4and front and side setbacks.
4. Street names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300
feet).
The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated in
this application are true and correct.
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
NOTICE is hereby given that there
will be a Public Hearing of the Plan-
ning Commission of the City of
Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 Uni-
versity Avenue Northeast on Wednes-
day, April 22, 1981 in the Council
Chamber at 7:30 p.m.for the purpose
of:
Consideration of a Special Use
Permit,SP y81-04,by Kenneth
D. Jorgenson, per Section
205,051,2,A,to allow the con-
struction Of a second ac-
cessory building,a 24 ft.by 30
ft.detached garage,on Lot 10,
Block 5, B, Bourdeaux's
Spring Brook Addition, the
same being 8101 Ruth Circle
N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be
heard shall be given an opportunity at
the above stated time and place.
RICHARD P HARRIS
Chairman
Planning Commission
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PLANNING COMMISSION
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NOTICE is ierebv given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning
Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue
Northeast on Wednesday, April 22 1981 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 p.m.
for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit,
SP #81-04, by Kenneth D. Jorgenson, per
Section 205.051 , 2, A, to allow the
construction of a second accessory
building, a 24 ft. by 30 ft. detached
garage, on Lot 10, Block 5, Bourdeaux's
Spring Brook Addition, the same being
8101 Ruth Circle N.E.
Any aNd all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the
above stated time and place.
RICHARD H. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: April 8, 1981 `
April 15, 1981
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MAILING LIST
SP #81-04, by Kenneth D. Jorgenson
8101 Ruth Circle second Accessory Building
Mr. Michael Melby Mr. & Mrs. Bruce Nelson
8100 Ruth Street N. E. 8016 Ruth Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. Kent Pierce Mr. & Mrs. Randall Topeff
8020 Ruth Street N. E. 341 Ely Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. John Walton Mr. & Mrs. Marvin Breilard
8066 Ruth Street N. E. ' 295 Ely Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. Thomas E. Christian Mr. & Mrs. Mykola Maroz
8026 Ruth Street N. E. 289 Ely Street N. E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Lester Russell Mr. & Mrs. Russell Schlemmer
8110 Ruth Circle N.E. 281 Ely Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. John Mitchell Mr. & Mrs. Robert Freeman
8120 Ruth Circle N. E. 273 Ely Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Walter Streich Mr. & Mrs. Curtis Walberg
8125 Ruth Street N. E. 255 Ely Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Ms. Margaret Mulrine
8135 Ruth Street N. E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Livgard
8141 Ruth Circle N. E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Allen Blomker
8131 Ruth Circle N. E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Richard Carlson
8121 Ruth Circle N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Carrol Davis
8111 Ruth Circle N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Jorgerson
8101 Ruth Circle N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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MEETING, APRIL 2? 1981 PAGE 6
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PLANNING COMMISSION
2. PUBLIC HEARING.: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BY
SP #81-0
E-flNETH U. JORGE ISON: Per. Section 2�,�,1-;2;A;y0 ri ey City Code,
to allow the construction of a second accessory building, a 24' by 30'
detached garage, on Lot 10, Block 5, Bourdeaux's Spring Brook Addition, the
same being 8101 Ruth Circle N.E.
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SP #81-04
BY KENNTH JORGENSON.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING
OPEN AT 8:37 P.M.
Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Jorgenson 's proposal is to build a detached garage with
Jorgenson presently has an attached garage.
Street. Mr. Y
access off Ruth 9 P
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Jorgenson if he would like to make a statement.
Mr. Jorgenson stated that because of the need for more storage and housing cars,
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garage. His resent garage is 20' x 22 ' and
building n a 24 x g p
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later on he plans to convert the attached garage to living space.
Mr. Harris stated his only concern would be that at the- time of the conversion of .
the attached garage, the driveway to that garage be removed.
HE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SECONDED BY M5. HUGHES, r0 CLOSE T
MOTION BY l.�t. PJHARTON, SEC
SP #81-04 BY KENNTH JORGENSON.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED AT 8:45 P.M.
MOTION BY MR. WHARTON, SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY C
APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #81-04,BY KENNTH JORGENSON,
PER SECTION 205.051, 2, A, OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF
A SECOND ACCESSORY BUILDING, A 24 BY 30' DETACHED GARAGE,- ON LOT 10, BLOCK 5,
BOURDEAUX`S SPRING BROOK ADDITION, THE SAME BEING 8101 RUTH CIRCLE N.E. , WITH
NO STIPULATIONS.
MOTION BY 145. VAN DAN, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION TO INCLUDE
THE STIPULATION THAT WHEN THE PRESENT GARAGE IS CONVERTED TO FAMILY LIVING SPACE,
THE DRIVEWAY BE REMOVED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE AMENDED MAIN
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MAIN MOTION AS
AMENDED CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
City Council on May 4.
Mr. Harris stated this would go to C y y
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 22, 1981 PAGE 5
MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SP #81-03 BY ROBERT FRIEDLY.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, .CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED AT 8:20 P.M.
Ms. van Dan stated she was really concerned about the naise to the residents.
Ms. Gabel agreed that the noise was a big concern of hers also. She would also
be concerned about the area becoming a hang-out.
Mr. Friedly stated he would be willing to put in restroom facilities if the City
required it.
Mr. Wharton stated he could not understand why Y the were so concerned about the
noise level of this operation when they see the baseball fields in residential
areas of the City with bright lights and noise going on until 10:00 at night. To
him, noise was not a big factor. He would be more concerned about restroom
facilities.
Ms. Hughes stated she would agree with that if some hours of operation were attached
to the special use permit, such as 10:00 p.m. She had some concern about the
direct sound lines that would go from this area to the neighborhood's bedroom
windows. They are forcing people to air condition their homes when they create
further noise problems. In terms of energy, that was something she would object to.
Ms. van Dan stated she was also concerned about the parking. It is a pretty full
parking lot, even during the day. She has also used the 53rd intersection, rather
than go onto Central Ave. at 52nd Ave.
MOTION_ BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY MS. HUGHES, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE
DENIAL OF THE REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #81-03, BY ROBERT FRIEDLY, PER
SECTION 205.101, 3, 0, OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO ALLOW A BUMPER BOAT OPERATION
ON A 98 FT. BY 125 FT. SITE IN SKYWOOD SHOPPING CENTER, LOCATED ON PARTS OF
LOTS 4 AND 5, AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION NO. 53, THE SAME BEING 5255 CENTRAL AVE. N.E. ,
FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. THE ALREADY EXISTING NOISE LEVELS
2. THE TRAFFIC SITUATION AND THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS WITH PARKING
3. THE SAFETY OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE [dHO WOULD USE THE AREA
UPON A VOICE VOTE, HARRIS, GABEL, HUGHES, AND VAN DAN VOTING AYE, WHARTON AND
SVANDA VOTING NAY, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-2.
Mr. Harris stated the reason he voted nay was because he did not think this was
an appropriate use as an accessory use to the shopping center as he has opposed
all similar accessory uses to all shopping centers that have been put in in the
past.
Mr. Harris stated that SP #81-03 was recommended to City Council for denial and
would go to City Council on May 4.
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REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 4, 1981 PAGE 13
Mr. Flora stated the staff's concern was the noise factor and the appearance
of the structure. He stated the petitioner stated he would be willing to do
any type of landscaping necessary to make sure of a good appearance.
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Mr. Flora stated, as far as the noise, it is 58 decibels one meter away and
ten meters away, it is less than 40 decibels, and 150 feet away, you can
hear the noise,of the participants. He stated the hours of operation would
1 be from 12 noon to 11:00 p. m. or 12:00 midnight. Mr. Flora stated the pool
is 30 inches deep and approximately 84 .feet wide by 125 feet long. He stated
this operation would be similar to the one in Coon Rapids.
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Mr. Flora pointed out that Mr. Galush of Twin City Federal had several
concerns regarding traffic danger to children, parking, the detraction from
-appearance from the highway, the question of restroom facilities, and the
noise factor. He felt it would be difficult to speak into a microphone in
i the bank's drive-in lane with the noise factor of 50 decibels next door.
Mr. Flora stated the Planning Commission recommended denial of the special
use permit because they felt the existing noise levels in the area were
extensive, the traffic situation and potential problems with parking, and
safety of the young people using the area.
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Mr. Friedly appeared before the Council regarding his request for this
special use permit. He felt the concerns expressed relative to noise,
j safety, and parking could be checked with the operation in Coon Rapids.
He further explained the engines are water cooled and this reduces the noise
substantially.
Councilwoman Moses asked if he suggested to the Planning Commission they
review the operation in Coon Rapids. Mr. Friedly stated he didn't know he
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had the option at that time.
Mrs. Judy Engebretson, 5216 Taylor Street, stated the contour of the land
is probably different in Coon Rapids operation and explained the noise hits
the hill and bounces up and on a clear summer night, she can hear noises
from the golf course. She questioned how they could possibly estimate the
noise created by patrons of this operation. She felt that 52nd and Central
is already heavily traveled and this business might create some distraction
for motorists on Highway 65.
Mrs. Engebretson also questioned what would happen when this operation closes,
and was concerned kids may climb the fence to cool off. She stated her main
concern is adding additional noise to the area. She didn't feel it would
upgrade the shopping center and indicated the neighbors don't object to
something that is enclosed indoors.
Mrs. Engebretson stated the neighborhood hoped the Council will concur with
the Planning Commission and deny the request for a special use permit.
MOTION by Councilman Schneider to concur with the recommendation of the.
Planning Commission and deny special use permit SP #81-03 because of the
1 already existing noise levels, the traffic situation and potenuial problems
with parking, and the safety of the young people who would use the area
relative to the traffic using Twin City federal 's drive-in window. Seconded
by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
{ ;3 CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #81-04 TO ALLOW
/ CONSTRUCTION OF SECOND ACCESSORY BUILDING (DETACHED GARAGE 8101
RUTH CIRCLE, KENNETH D. JORGENSON:
Mr. Flora, Public Works Director, stated the property in question is located
just east of East River Road on Ruth Circle. He stated the petitioner
wished to build a 24' x 30' detached garage with access off Ruth and to convert
his existing attached garage to living space.
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I Mr. Flora stated the Planning Commission reconmended approval with the
stipulation that the driveway be removed, when the present garage is
converted to living space.
MOTION by Councilman Fitzpatrick to concur with the recommendation of the
Planning Conmissison and grant special use permit SP #81-04 for a second
accessory building, with the stipulation that when the present garage is
converted to living space that the present driveway be removed. Seconded
by Councilwoman Moses. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Nee declared
the motion carried unanimously.
/r CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #81-05, TO ALLOW
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CONSTRUCTION OF DUPLEX IN R-1 ZONING, 20 OSBORNE WAY, LEIGH INVESTMENTS, INC.:
Mr. Flora, Public Works Director, stated this property is located just west
of East River Road at Osborne and Osborne Way intersection. He stated there
currently is single family housing located around the parcel.
Mr. Flora stated the special use permit is requested to allow construction of
a duplex in an R-1 Zone, with the outside appearance resembling a single
family home. He stated the Planning Commission recommended approval of this
request with the stipulations that the developer prove that there are 10,000
square feet available on the lot; that the utility, drainage, and bikeway
easements are preserved; and that a third garage is provided.
Mr. Les Watkins, 40 Osborne Way, indicated he had no objections to this special
use permit.
Councilman Fitzpatrick asked if the person who raised an objection at the
Planning Commission meeting was present, but there was no response from the
audience.
Mr. Qureshi , City Manager, stated there have been numerous discussions by-the
Council in allowing a double bungalow in R-1 zoning, with a special use permit.
He stated, in the past, the Council has not allowed this type of approach and
if they wish to approve this request, this will be setting a precedent.
The petitioner stated financing on this particular lot has been turned down
consistently for single family homes and the reason was because of noxious
odors and high noise levels.
Councilman Schenider stated he has a problem with special use permits in an
R-I zone and perhaps this should be a rezoning request. He felt Mr. Qureshi's
point of setting a precedent is valid and, without a specific rezoning to R-2,
finds it difficult to support.
Mr. Herrick, City Attorney, stated his concern is that the special use
provision is in the ordinance and precedent set when the previous Council
adopted the ordinance. He felt if it is in the ordinance, then it is
incumbent on the Council to approve it, unless there are pertinent reasons
for denying it. He stated he is not comfortable with denying it simply
because the Council doesn't like the ordinance.
I Councilwoman Moses felt because of the difficulty in developing this. parcel
as single family and financing can't be obtained, she felt it should be
approved.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated he thinks this is a long standing situation
j and felt the Council had been quite consistent in recommending against such
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
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rl';`���z° ,°� ,< ' x` 6431 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N. E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 5543.2
TELEPHONE ( 612)571 -3450
May 14, 1981
CITY COUNCJL
ACTIO;N TAVEIIi NOTICE
Kenneth D. Jorgensen
8101 Ruth Circle N.E.
't Fridley, Mn 55432
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On May 4, 1981 the Fridley City Council officially
approved your request for i_S eciaL_.Sa Permit_ SP #81-04 r a 2n.+�$sory building
with the stipulations listed below:
I . The driveway to the first accessory building will have to be removed if
this is ever converted to living space.
If you have any questions regarding the above action, please call the
Coinmunity Development Office at 571-3450.
Si.ncereiy,
J `R 'LJ L. GOARDMAN
JL6/de ity Planner
Please review the noted stipulations, sign the statement below, and return
one copy to the City of Fridley.
Concur with a on ,en.