LS66-08 CITY OF FRIDLEY TYPE OF REQUEST
MINATE S OTA
Rezoning
PLANNING AND ZONING FORM
Special Use Permit
Number °?
Variance
APPLICANT'S SIGNATURE Lot Splits
Address 6,-A' " i nne sotp Approval of Pre-
liminary Plat
Telephone Number SU .'i- 216
Approval of Final
Plat
PROPERTY OWNER'S SIGNATURE r�rri-�
Streets or Alley
Address snore Vacations
Telephone Number same Other
Street Location of Property 6540 Luc i n Lone, Fridley , i rinesot;
Legal Description of Property Lot Four (.1.) Lucia Lane Pdditi on. Anoka County,
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Present Zoning Classification
Existing Use of the Property i na le fare i I y res i Bence
Proposed Zoning Classification, Special Use, Variance or other request
Describe briefly the Type of Use and the Improvement Proposed
I_ot spl it -s net- di)r,,r,.
Acreage of Property
Has the Present Applicant Previously Sought to Rezone, Plat, Obtain a Lot Split,
Obtain a Variance or Special Use Permit on the Subject Site or Part of It?
When?
What was Requested Fee Enclosed $/
Date Filed a ne Z 1966 _ Date of Hearing
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PLANNING AND ZONING FORM PAGE 2
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The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of pro-
perty within 300 feet must be attached to
this application.
(b) This application must be signed by all
owners of the property, or an explanation
given why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for any defect in the pro-
ceedings resulting from the failure to list
the names and addresses of all residents
and property owners of property within 300
feet of the property in question, belongs
to the undersigned.
Residents and Owners of Property within 300 feet:
PERSONS ADDRESS
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn on the back of this
form or attached, showing the following: 1. North Direction
2. Location of Proposed Structure on lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed
structure, and front and side set-bark1c
4. Street Names
5. Location and use of adjacent existing
buildings (within 300 feet) .
The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated in
this application are true and correct.
DATE ! SIGNATURE
APPLICANT)
Approved Denied By the 3oard of Aprpails
Subject to the Following Conditions: date
Approved Denied by the Planning Commission on
Subject to the Following Conditions: date
Approved Denied by the Council on
Subject to the Following Conditions: date
Form PC 100
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TWIUGHT & OLSON COMBINING THE RECORDS OF
HARVEY A. CAI�TWRIGHT J. E. HILL, CIVIL ENGINEER
ANOKA COUNTY SURVEYS r� p II� ESTABLISHED 1896
HENNEPIN COUNTY SURVEYS LAND SURVEYORS MINNEAPOLIS SURVEYS C. F. SANDHOFF
8410 PALM STREET 19. W. CIVIL ENGINEER
REGISTERED UNDER LAWS OF STATE OF MINNESOTA
ESTABLISHED 1908
SUNSET 4-7655
LICENSED BY ORDINANCE OF CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS
OWNER JAMES NELSON
326 PLYMOUTH BUILDING FEDERAL 8-8721 SURVEYOR
INDUSTRIAL — JUDICIAL
HENNEPIN AT SIXTH MINNEAPOLIS 3. MINNESOTA ESTABLISHED 1922
BUSINESS — TOPOGRAPHICAL $,�lrbe Or'g �ertifieate METROPOLITAN LAND
CITY LOTS — PLATTING SURVEYORS, ESTABLISHED 19c1
Myron Heine Im�oice 23702
6540 Lucia Lane 739/45
Fridley, Minn. 55432
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I hereby certify that this is a true and correct representation of a survey of:
The East 1/2 of Lot It, Lucia Lane Addition
As surveyed bv me this 28th day of February, 1966.
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CARTWRIGHT AND OL90N
7WIUGHT & OLSON COMBINING THE RECORD'S OF
HARVEY A. CA RTWRIGHT J. E. HILL, CIVIL ENGINEER
ANOKA COUNTY SURVEYS
HENNEPIN COUNTY SURVEYS LANDSURVEYORS ESTABLISHED 1e96
MINNEAPOLIS SURVEYS C. F. SANDHOFF
8410 PALM STREET N.W. CIVIL ENGINEER
REGISTERED UNDER LAWS OF STATE OF MINNESOTA ESTABLISHED 1906
SUNSET 4-7655 LICENSED BY ORDINANCE OF CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS
OWNER JAMES NELSON
326 PLYMOUTH BUILDING FEDERAL 8-8721 SURVEYOR
INDUSTRIAL — JUDICIAL
HENNEPIN AT SIXTH • MINNEAPOLIS 3. MINNESOTA ESTABLISHED 1922
BUSINESS — TOPOGRAPHICAL 6urbey„Or's CertificateMETROPOLITAN LAND
CITY LOTS — PLATTING SURVEYORS, ESTABLISHED I9S1
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ANOKA COUNTY
6431 UNIVERSITY AVENUE NE MINNEAPOLIS 21, MINNESOTA
June 1, 1962
Jackson and Cox
6550 Lucia Lane
Fridley 21, Minnesota
Gentlemen:
We have received a request from the County Auditor to
split Lot 2, Lucia Lane Addition.
Please be advised that before we can split these lots
on our records the lot split must be authorized by the Planning
Commission.
The procedure for obtaining this lot split would be to
make application through the City Engineer's Office. Until this
authorization has been granted any special assessments on Lot 2,
Lucia Lane Addition will all be applied against the portion owned
by the original owner,
Very truly yours,
/Marvin C. sell
City Clerk-Treasurer
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City Engineer
LAW OFFICES
MASLON, KAPLAN, EDELMAN,JOSEPH &. BORMAN
SAMUEL H.MASLON
HYMAN EDELMAN
SIDNEY J.KAPLAN
SHELDON KAPLAN
ROGER E.JOSEPH BUILDERS EXCHANGE BUILDING
MARVIN BORMAN MINNEAPOLIS 2,MINNESOTA
JOHN C.MCNULTY
FEDERAL 9-8015
CHARLES A.COX
RONALD J.WOLF
SAMUEL L.KAPLAN
Z 4706 July 25, 1962
City Engineer's Office
City of Fridley
6431 University Avenue N.E.,
Minneapolis 21, Minnesota
Dear Sir:
In April of this year the Jackson and Cox Company conveyed
to Dean Thomas Lot 2, Lucia Lane Addition, except for the
west 165 feet. The street address of this property is 6550
Lucia Lane.
We request that the lot be split accordingly. If any fur-
ther application for such split is necessary will you please
advise me at your convenience.
Very truly yours
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P;x. Charles A. Cox_
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609 Second Avenue South
Minneapolis 2, 21innesota
Re: Lot Split request
Lot ; Lucia Lane Addition
6550 Lucia Lane
Bear Mr. Cox:
In reply to your letter of July 25, 1962, re uestinC
D that above property '.:<c split, tl,e City requires receipt of
$15.00 lot split fee, plus a Certificate of Survey (six
copies) before this :matter can )e considered and acted upon.
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WEAVER, TALLE & HERRICK
CHARLES R.WEAVER 316 EAST MAIN STREET
HERMAN L.TALLE ANOKA,MINNESOTA
VIRGIL C.HERRICK 421-5413
ROBERT MUNNS 6231 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E.
JAMES D. GIBBS ^^ FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA
July22
, 1966 560-3850
Plots & Sub-Divisions Subcommittee
Fridley City Hall
6431 University Avenue Northeast
Fridley, Minnesota
Re : Lots Split 66-08.
Gentlement :
This letter is to advise you that 1 do not represent Myron Heine
in. his attempt to obtain a lot split .
Mr. Heine asked me to represent him in the sale of his house, and
also to obtain a lot split . 14hile I agreed to accept a power of
attorney on the sale of his home, I told him that, beepuse I was
City Attorney, I could not appear before a sub-committee of the
Planning Commission . I further advised him that I did not think
it would be necessary that he be represented by legal counsel .
As you perhops know, Mr. Heine has accepted an overseas assignment
and will be out of the country for five years. There is a pending
sale on his property that is subject to the lot split .
I simply point these facts out because Mr. Heine is not here to
speak for himself, and because it is possible that he misunderstood
my position in respect to my representing him on the lotsplit .
Sincere y,
VCH :jjh Virgil C . Herrick
February 12, 1987
Robert and Barbara Haedtke
1926 Nor tonia Ave.
St. Paul, MV 55119
RE: Property at 6540 Lucia Lane N. E. , Fridley
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Haedtke:
I am writing in regards to the status of a subdivision for the above
referenced property. Recently I have been in touch with a Wanda Eggebrecht
who called regarding the special assessments for the property on Lucia Lane.
Ms. Eggebrecht described your intention to sell off the easterly half of Lot
4, Lucia Lane Addition. In doing a special assessment search, it was
determined that there had never been a subdivison of Lot 4, Lucia Lane
Addition which has been recognized by the City. Ms. Eggebrecht was further
informed that the special assessments could not be split in as much as a
valid subdivison had not been obtained frau the City.
In researching the file, I discovered that there was in fact an application
for a lot split of this property in 1966. This lot split petition was denied
by the City Council on September 6, 1966. Despite this denial , the
petitioner, a Myron Heine, proceeded to convey the property and have it
recorded at the County where their records indicate it was f iled on October
3, 1966. The reason for the City denial and continued reluctance to
recognize this lot split is the fact that the westerly half of Lot 4, Lucia
Lane Addition has no street access of its own. Therefore, the City can only
recognize Lot 4 as one whole tax parcel.
I believe the City's position has been clearly expressed and documented. If
you have any further questions please feel free to call me.
Sincerely,
James L. Robinson
Planning Coordinator
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y Plato and Subdivisions Subcommittee M;eetiLttJulyly 25"1966 Paine 2
3. LOT SPLIT L.S. X66-11A ALMA NELSON: South portion of Lot 19
Mslolaad Gardens.
Mrs. Nelson wished to split the lot down the center so that the two
lots would face Gardena. it was noted that the existing garage had ample
side yard. The Subcommittee felt there was no problem in connection with
this request.
MOTION by Danielson that the Plats and Subdivisions Subcommittee
recommend approval of the Lot Split #66-11, Alma Nelson,, being the South
portion of Lot 1, Maloland Gardens into two lots with each having equal
frontage on Gardena Avenue. Upon a voice vote,, the motion carried.
4. LUT SPLIT IWUEM: L.S. #66-12�DONALD WARD: Lot 17, Clover Leaf Addition.
The request would split the lot Bast and West with the existing house
on the Northerly lot.
MOTION by Danielson that the Plats and Subdivisions Subcommittee
recommend approval of the Lot Split 066.120 Donald Ward,, of Lot 178 Clover
Leaf Addition. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
5. LUT SPLIT B$QUBST; L.S. J66®14. ROBERT SANBURN: Lot 15, Block 2, Sylvan
Hills.
Mr. Sanborn was present and explained that the eaves of his neighbor's
garage extend one foot on his property. It had made no difference in the
. past,, but now that they were selling their ham, it had to be resolved.
MOTION by Albrecht that the Plats and Subdivisions Subcommittee
rid approval to split one foot off the North edge of Lot 158 Block 28
Sylvan Hills by Robert Sanborn, L.S. #66-14, and that no lot split charge
be made in view of the mistake that appears to have happened when the
neighbor's garage was built. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
6. LOT SPLIT NEUESTL.S. #6. 6-08„_HiRO�a Lot 48 Lucia Lane Addition.
The Subcommittee members were given copies of a letter from Virgil
Herrick stating he was not representing Mr. Heine as originally believed.
Engineering Assistant Clark stated the Streets and Utilities Sub-
committee had acted on this and red tagged the lot.
The Subcommittee took no action.
ADJUURrM c
There being no further business, Chairman Bandel adjourned the meeting
at 9:15 P.M.
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3. STATEW M�SA�G',E: Ono mile.
The mileage to be designated at this time was one mils. Engineering
Assistant Clark reviewed the rsquirewats for the designation.
The andmrs felt it should be mentioned that their recommendation for
State Aid Mileage is made as a designation only for mileage purposes, to
seriously question that it will be eventually used this way. The designation
should definitely be re-studied before any. impravewet is ordered to see if
there are any changes that would make this an improper designation.
MMOR by Kagel, seconded by Schmsdeks, that the Plats be Subdivisions-
Streets'& Utilities Subcommittee "command adding: 1) '75th Avows from
Central Avenue to Stinsone Boulevard; 2) 7th Stmt to West Moore Lake Drive
following 57th Avenue from 7th Street Bast to Quincy, South on Quincy to
Carrie Laine, Sart on Carrie Lane to Jackson Street, North on Jackson Street
to 58th Avenue, Bast on 58th to Moore Lake Drive. Also recommend adding
Altura Road from 53rd Avenue North to Mein Street, if more mileage is
needed. For the record, these suggestions are for designation purposes only
and not intended as the actual state aid route. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
4. LitC� STt93T:
It was noted there ere two lot splits in this area and there are no
ecaassens to the lots facing HighmW #65.
The question was asked whether or not there was a possibility of the
Bwy. Dept. allowing a portion of a service road to be on highway right of
way. The answer was that once the highway is built, it is closed as far
as encroaching on their right of way is concerned.
The members felt they would like to have a meeting with the property
owxmZrs and set a night, sending a letter to theme asking if they would lite
to toads in to study access for the lots facing Buy. #65. Under the law, the
City does not have to provide access. They felt they would like the Engin-
sering Dept. to give more facts and include 68th Avenue. They asked Bngin-
aering Assistant Clark to give thea a cost ectimsts for sewer, water and
storm reser, and street purposes and put together a little better picture
for future plan including dimensions, show specific hard surfaced roads and
what is left, width and depth of lots and sewer easements.
The City Manager was asked to check with the County Commissioner re-
garding holding Lot 6 for possible purchase.
The Subcommittee tabled the Uwia Lane Study for the March 30th
m®sting.
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-here being no f=ther business, Cheir®en Jensen adjourned the meeting
at 4:25 P.M.
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Chairman Jensen stated lie felt the people between 60th and 61st
should also be contacted for their opinion.
Member Schmedeke waisted to go on record that if we had the Hodne
Service Road, we would have gotten what we wanted. At the present time
we have no through traffic, no cross streets any more. In a new area
you could propose most anything, but this area has been here a long time
and you have to lean a little bit toward the old timers. It is logical
for this area to be rezoned commercial and that is why 3rd Street is the
logical through street.
Chairman Jensen stated there is a great deal of traffic on 3rd Street
and enormous pressure for commercial zoning. The houses face 3rd Street
and business road would be behind the property. A 134 foot strip does
not lend itself to commercial zoning. I feel we owe it to a number of
parties involved in this problem to cease studying the property and refer
it to the Planning Commission.
Member Schmedeke stated he would like to be at the meeting of the
Planning Commission. He said this problem is important to him and the
people in the area, as it is our only way out South. We need 3rd Street
and are entitled to it. It surprises me that you want and are determined
to send traffic down Main Street.
MOTION by Schmedeke, seconded by Ylinen, that the Plats and Subdivisions
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee accept the street pattern dated October 2.5,
1966 that Erickson Petroleum presented this evening for the Third Street
Pattern from 57th Avenue to 58th Avenue as the best way out south, using
Fridley specifications for the street and would like a roll call vote on
it. Upon a roll call vote, Sclimedeke voting aye; Nagel, nay; Ylinen aye;
Jensen, abstaining; and Albrecht, nay, the motion failed.
MOTION by Ylinen, seconded by Albrecht, that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee pass the Third Street Pattern on to the
Planning Commission for further study and without specific recommendation
from this committee. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
Chairman Jensen informed Mr. Zizak that he was in favor of the vacation
of 572 Avenue between 3rd Street and 22 Street providing this plan is
carried through.
Member Schmedeke said he looked at Mr. Ziza.k's property and if the
road goes through, he felt Mr. Zizak is entitled to the vacation, as it
would also improve the neighborhood.
3. LUCIA LANE STUDY:
Using contract prices for work the City now has under contract,
Engineering Assistant Clark submitted the following figures for improve-
ments on Lucia Lane:
JSewer, water and a 30' service drive with concrete curb and gutter
would cost $3,800 per lot.
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Eliminating curb and gutter, it would be $3,100 per lot.
Plats & Subs.-Str. & Util. Subcommittee - March 30, 1967 Page 5
There were 8 new lots considered.
The consensus of the Subcommittee was these would be expensive lots,
and they probably would do these people a favor by leaving them the way
they are, and in order to eliminate this from the future agenda, a motion
was in order.
MOTION by Nagel, seconded by Ylinen, that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee file the report to show we have studied
the Lucia Lane problem and that the results of the report show it is not
economically feasible to consider at this time. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
4. RETURN 0£ LOT SPLIT (L.S. #65-14) H. M. NYGARD: That part of Lot 14,
Auditor's Subdivision #129 lying west of east 273.0 feet, ex. west 17.0
feet taken for Central Avenue, and except easement over north 30 feet for
road purposes.
The City Manager gave a resume of the former requests for splitting
this parcel. The new request asks for a 180' parcel abutting Central Avenue
and a 70' lot to the east. The Subcommittee stated that they have always
avoided recommending a lot less than minimum size unless there is a hard-
ship or circumstances making it inevitable:.
MOTION by Ylinen, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee deny this request (March 21, 1967) of a
lot split for part of Lot 14, Auditor's Subdivision #129 lying west of
east 273.0 feet, except west 17.0 feet taken for Central Avenue and except
north 30 feet taken for road purposes on the basis of one lot being sub-
standard, but would recommend approval for the modification of the request
of the lot split being 175 feet for the lot facing Central Avenue and 75
feet for the lot to the east. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously.
5. SETTING MEETING DATES:
The next regular meeting of the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities
Subcommittee was scheduled for April 20, 1967.
The Subcommittee decided to meet on Tuesday, April 11, 1967 at 7:30 P.M.
in the City Hall for an informal meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Albrecht, seconded by Nagel, that the meeting be adjourned
at 10:25 P.M. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted
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Hazel O'Brian
Recording Secretary
Comn+iss on Meeti • Au st 25 1966 Pae 2
NNION by 'Bergman, seconded by Bendel, that ,the 'Planning Commission
approve the Lot Split request, L.S. #66-15, Raymond G. Gerrety, Lot 1,
Block 1, Brookview 2nd Addition, subject to confiruation of a 30 foot
street dedication on 68th Avenue and recommend same to Council. Upon a
voice vote, the motion carried.
Mr. Gerrety stated he would have no objections to signing a quit
claim deed for the dedicated street (68th Avenue).-
MOTION by Bergman, seconded by Hughes, that the Planning Commission
would like to suggest to the Board of Appeals, that if a special use
permit is granted for the parking space, that access be restricted on
68th Avenue. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
2. LOT SPLIT RNQUBST: L.S. ft6-08. MYRON HBINEs Lot 4, Lucia Laney Addition.
Chairman Kravik stated that. at the time the Lucia Lane improvement
was made, the, service road on Wast and of the property was discussed
and rejected by the owners of Lots 1 through 7 who stated they were not
ever going to split them.
Chairman Bergman of the Streets and Utilities Subcosanittee stated
they were not mart of this. He stated the Streats and Utilities Sub-
aommittea was approving the Lot Split #66-08, Myron Heine, but red
tagging the West half of Lot 4 and all of Lots S, 6 and 7 until a study
is completed to establish a street pattern which would allow the split-
ting of the rest of these lots. If the owners of the lots will not sant
to split them ever, or that this is too preliminary in the idea of a
study, the ultimate approach would be at this time, for lack of interest
by adjacent property owners, to deny the lot split.
In answer to the problem of access on the West side, it was suggested
to approve the lot split and then study how to got access. The purpose
of splitting would be to get relief from asseseaents. It was stated
that the County will split the taxes, but the City will not split &asses-
ments until a lot split is formally approved and a certificate of survey
Prepared. It was noted a person could sell, but a building permit
would not be granted until the City requirements were met.
In 1958 an attempt was made for a street pattern, including Lucia
Lane, Channel Road and it wound up the way it is now.
In this instance, it was explained the process of red tagging simply•
says if somebody chooses to do anything with a portion of the West lot,
the City won't give a building permit unless they most certain conditions.
Because lot splits usually happen one at a time, all that would be
necessary is for the owners of the rest of the lots to agree to an
established pattern for street.
The reason for the lot- split is that Mr. Heine sold the East half
of Lot 4.
MOTION by Erickson, seconded by Hughes, that the Planning Commission
recommend denial of the Lot Split #66-08, Myron Heine, Lot 4, Lucia Larne
Addition. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
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Member Erickson said he assumed the supporting information relative
to the Subcommittee meetings and diagram is sufficient to explain the
reason why the motion was made and carried and the following paragraph
be added.
The recommendation was based on the knowledge that this lot split
would landlock the West half of Lot 4, furthermore, legally the East
half could be sold, and in addition, that if the lot split is approved
by the Council, whether red tagged or not, that eventually he may
demand or force a road through to serve this West half.
3. =.= MANOR YAR%: Special Parks and Recreation meting of August 22, 1966.
Proposed Melody Manor Park.
Member Hughes brought the relief model of the proposed Park to the
meeting. He stated the Parks and Recreation Commission were calling for
preliminary plans and specifications for developing Melody Manor Park.
The aim of the Commission is to start a more formal planning process
for the parks and upgrade then in a more planned manner than in the
past. They believe this procedure will avoid a masher of problems.
The Commission has applied for matching funds under the Federal Land
and Water Punds which will provide faderal' funds equal to what the City
will put up. The amount is about $7,000 a year.
The Planning .Cosmission agreed with Bergman that the model was
very interesting, represents good effort and high quality on the part
of the Parks and Recrsatiou Commission and thanked them.
It was noted that parking area was not included, and Hughes explained
that this particular area, being across the street from industrial to
the South and adjoinin church area, will allow use of street parking
with little difficulty. He also stated this program probably represents
eight to ten years.
MOTION by Hughes, seconded by Bergman, that the Planning Commission
concur with the Parks and Recreation Commission in requesting the type
of resolution calling for plans and specifications for the development
of Melody Manor Park. Upon a voice vote, the notion carried.
4. PROPOSED AIGMUeff TO ORDINANCE #295 (PARKED VEHICLES):
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int to Ordinance #295 until proposed revisions are submitted.
Upon a voice vote, the notion carried.
5. DISCUSSION OW: MISION TO BUILDING PERT APPLICATION RMIBSMSNTS:
MOTION by Bendel, seconded by Erickson, that Item #5 be continued
until September 22, 1966. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
6. 4 ESM: r......PLAN= R�.� _* D7S7�RIM:
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tracks. The consensus was to keep as much traffic out of the resi-
dential area as possible. Mr. Zizak°s request would be to close
571 Avenue and create a cul de sac at the intersection of 3rd Street.
Because Mr. Zizak has sold some of his property in that area to
Holiday Village North, more att-.dy will be made.
Item 2: Street Pattern in Lucia Lane Addition:
The original request by Myron I*ino was to split Lot 4, Lucia Lane
Addition, North and South in the middle. There is no access for the
lots facing Highway 465, and no service road. They are all deep lots.
The Planning Commission recommended that the application be turned
down because it would create a landlocked lot. There would be a
continued problem in that there are four lots oversized and may
bring up further requests for lot splits. There is a possibility
there is no way to get a street through, but it was felt a meeting'
with the people of the area should be called to discuss a road pattern,
that a topog of the area should be available, but that this is not on
a high priority list.
Steam 4; Mp2sed•Pnkelimina Plat for C1 ds Scherer 2.S. #66-04):
This Item should be studied in conjunction with the current request
for a discussion of the S&k of Section 13 for replatting by Mike
0°Banton. A street pattern should be discussed, possibly with the
people in the area.
Current:-1967: Lot Split Request -(#66-17) A. L. Williams.
Mr. Williams was asked to reconsider his proposal.
At this point Chairman Hughes asked if there were further questions
concerning items the Subcommittee will look at. He stated all Subcommittees
have the privilege of calling Mr. Wagner and making demands at the last minute
for maps, and information:
Mr. Wagner suggested that once in awhile, the Planning Commission
could invite the other members of the Subcommittees together for h hour or
hour just to discuss planning in general and problems that might arise. it was
decided this would be wise, but to wait until the am committee was well organized.
Member Jansen asked if a half saction swap with overlaying serial tracings were
available and could be brought to the meetings. He was assured this usually is
done.
Chairman Hughes informed the now members that it is within the realm
of the committee's rights and privileges to bring items of interest to its own
meetings without waiting for someone to refer an item. When the agenda is light,
there are other problems in the City which they could study.
Humber Jensen would like a general discussion by all the Planning
Commission and Subcommittee members together as to the recognized problems
various 8ubcomwitteas might like to study.
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STREETS & UT'ILITTES SUBCON41TTEE MEETING - JUNE 7, 1966 PAGE 1
The meeting was called to order by Chainan Bergman at 7:15 P.M.
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Me=bars present: Bergman, Nagel., Ubben
Others present: Engineering Assistant Clark
1. VADA.,,TION REQUEST; SAV f66-Ol GEORGE E. WOJACR: North 6' drainage and
utility easement - Lot 18e, Block 2, Parkviav Heights Addition.
Mr. Wojack was present
The drainages, and utility easement is 12 feet and Mr. Wojack is asking
for a vacation of 6 feet. It was notaod he had letters from the Northern
States Power Co. and the Northwestern Bmll Telephone Co. stating they did
not object to the Toachment an the easement.
MOTION by Nagel that; the Streets and Utilities Subcommittee recaumend
approval of the vacation of the Southerly 3 feet of the existing 12 foot
easement can the North boundary line of Lot 18, Bloek 2t. Parkview Heights
Addition, SAV #66-01., George E. Wojack. Upon a voice vote, the motion
carried.
The Engineering Department was ;asked to inspect the property reporting
from an engine ieering standpoint.
Chairman Bergman a mplimanted Mr. Wojack an the filling out of the
forma and the manner of presenting his request.
24 LOT SPLIT „ UEST: L.S 8r, MYRON HEINE: Lot 4. Lucia Lane Addition.
Mr. Heine was present and stated hes was leaving for Ghana, Africa for
a period of five years an the following week, and that Virgil Herrick would
represent hiss ftam ww on. He said that he had sold the east half of Lot 4
on which his ham was built,
The Subcommittee Worwd Mr. Heine that they cannot split a lot
without access or a plan for access at-id Pa dedication consistent with a plana
It was natad that Lots 2 and 3 have been split which man done at Anoka
County, but had not gone through the rcegulay channels of Fridley. They
discussed the servicer road type, of access, discarding getting on Mississippi
Street: at lbiy. #65„ eliminating Lot 6 because the apartment buildings have;
access, and considering they esnamwAt can the north edge of Lot 6A, 2nd Revision
Auditorbs Subdivision #21, or possible dedication on north edge of Lot 1,
Lucia Lane Addition. In considering the app-roach to this problem, the
following alternatives were listed: denial, approval of loot split dedicating
service drive of 30 feet, split with vast half red tagged, defer until
more specific information is giver., and make a study of the area. It was
noted there were no dedications whatsoever from any of the lots in Lucia
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee - June 7, 1966 Page 2
Lane Addition. It was suggested that the Engineering Department check out
locations of existing houses and buildings and prepare a dimension plan of
this area and possible street patterns. It was suggested that Council
could red tag Lots 5, 6 and 7 until such time as an overall study is com-
pleted for the future right of way.
KION by Ubbens seconded by Nagel, that the Streets and Utilities
Subcommittee direct the City Engineering Department to make a detailed plan
of the area in question showing road access to the west half of the lots
In the Lucia Lane Addition and that the Lot Split Request, L.S. #E66®08,
IV&= Heina, Lot 4, Lucia Lane Addition be granted subject to a 30 foot
easement on the west edge of the Lot and to red tag the wast half of
Lot 4, and all of lots 5, 6 and 7 until such study is completed. Upon a
voice vote, the motion carried.
3. MPOSED STREET ALIGNMT: 83RD AVENUE AND FAVRE GASOLINE STATION (8255
BAST RIM RUD).
Mr. Dennis Favre was present.
Engineering Assistant Clark reviewed the histo 0t,pavre vrWanting
to build an extension on his present gas station, buof the possi-
bility of 83rd Avenue opening onto East River Road which would then cut
through his property. Mr. Clark had talked with the Engineer in Coon Rapids
who stated that 85th Avenue N.E. was going to be developed as an East-West
County road, therefore Coon Rapids would not be interested in giving half a
dedication for 83rd Avenue at the present time.
It was agreed that there is a definite need for 83rd Avenue to be
developed because the access problem to the rear of lots on Ironton Street
will have to be solved at some time.
It was suggested to Mr. Favre that he should apply for a building
permit now, and that the City should establish a logical street pattern
and consider Mr. Favre'' problem.
MOTION by Nagel, seconded by Ubben, that the Streets and Utilities
Subcommittee consider 83rd Avenue as the logical street pattern, and that
the City should take the necessary steps to carry out that pattern as the
need arises, and that right of way needed be acquired before structure
imprervemants are made. Upon a voice voter the motion carried.
4. BUILDING PERMIT: LOT 3 BLOCK 1 MISSISSIPPI VIEW ADDITION GORDON SANGSTER:
Mrs. Sangster and Mr. Hulbert of Bruce Hulbert Construction Company
were present.
The gangster's plan to build a house on Lot 3, Block 1, Mississippi
View, but there is a proposed street dedication which would conflict with
Sangster's present proposed placement of the house on the lot.
The Subcommittee discussed several different methods of providing City-
maintained access to the lots North of Riverwood School.
REGULAR CO ANCIL METING, SBPTSMSER 6, 1966 PAGE 10
I� 2 SPLITREQUEST: 1b.S. #66-08 HYRON t&3NE LOT.4, LM ADDRION:
The City Manager read the motion of the Planning Commission recommending denial.
NOTION by Councilman Harris to concur with the Planning Co aission and deny
Lot Split 11equest #66-08. Seconded by Councilman Sheridan. Upon a voice vote,
there being no nays, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried.
Q) 4TH DRAFT: PLANNED DBVELORC-n DISTRICTS:
The City Manager read the motion of the Planning Commission recommending
adoption of the fourth draft of the ordinance for Planned Development
Districts. He said he has given the Council copies for study and to make any
suggestions they would like, so that it can eventually be on an agenda for
passage. Councilman Harris said he thought everyone would like some time
to go over this more thoroughly.
MOTILIN by Councilman Harris to table this Ordinance until the next regular
meeting of September 19, 1966. Seconded by Councilman Sheridan. Upon a
voice vote, there being no nays, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried.
SAFETY CM4ITTEE METING P2IN=S,. AUGUST 17, 1966:
MOTILIN by Councilman Wright to receive and file the Safety Committee Minutes
of August 17, 1966. Seconded by Councilman Sheridan. Upon a voice vote,
there being no nays, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried.
PARRS AND RBCWATIC0 C(*MSSION MEETING MINUTES, AUGUST 22, 1966:
MELODY MANOR PROJECT:
Councilman Wright asked who would draw the type of preliminary plans and
specifications suggested, would it be a landscaper or planner? He .said
this was an unusual request as the Park Corsaission has planned the parks
before.
XMION by Councilman Harris that the Parks Department call in a planner or
someone capable of drawing plans and specifications, and report- back to the
Council on what his charges would be. Seconded by Councilman Wright. Upon
a voice vote, there being no nays, Mayor Kirkham declared the mouton carried.
SIG14 PE11MIT AND WAIVER - 6/.41 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E:
Councilman Harris said he noticed the sign was up already, and he asked how
the City checks these. The City Manager said that the Building Inspector
notices them through patrolling. Councilman Harris said the City will
continue getting these, and suggested striae type of monetary punishment for
signs not complying with the regulations so that it will not continue to
happen. lair. Gibbs said that a violation of the Sign Ordinance is a misdemeanor
with a ma<.imur: penalty of $100 or 90 days, and this is a clear cut violation.
Councilman Wright said the Sign Ordinance was a long time in the making, and
with no grandfather clause, it does take awhile to get action. Councilman