CHM 05/01/1979 •
CHARTER COMMISSION MEETING
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Ash called the meeting to order at 7:40 P.M .
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Clifford Ash., Peter Treuenfels, David Berg,
Charles Langer, Bob Pierce, Irene Maertens,
Sue Nagengast, Jean Schell, David Schaaf,
Francis Adam van Dan
MEMBERS ABSENT: Walt Starwalt, Tim Breider, Larry Commers,
Kenneth Brennen
APPROVE CHARTER COMMISSION MINUTES: -
MOTION was made by Ms. Nagengast to approve the March 6, 1979
minutes. Mr. Berg seconded the Motion. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, the Motion passed unanimously.
MOTION was made by Mr. Langer to approve the April 3, 1979
minutes. Mr. Treuenfels seconded the Motion. Upon a voice
vote all voting aye, the Motion carried unanimously.
1 . REPORT FRO;L OFFICERS:
Chairperson Ash stated that he wanted to state that the Commission
now has two new members in the person of Mr. David Schaaf, and
Mr. Larry Comers.
2 . NEW BUSINESS:
There was no new business to report.
3. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Discussion on Public Hearing meeting and possible changes
to the City Charter.
Mr. Ash stated that from the last meeting, it was decided that
the Commission should take the fifteen various sections of
possible changes to the Charter and split them. up into three
subcommittees, who could then bring back an in-depth report.
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Mr. Ash stated that he and Mr. Langer had divided the issues
into these three subcommittees:
Mr. Pierce: item #10 "Should there be a fair campaign practices
section?"
item #12 "Ref. Section 205 - Should there be a
change on how vacancies of unexpired terms of
Councilmen are filled?"
item #13 "Should there be an automatic recount on
close elections?"
Mr. Starwalt; item #1 "Should the Mayor and/or Administration
give a State of the City Message annually?"
item #2 "Ref. Section 2. 07 - After setting their
::salaries, should the Council members stand for
re-election before receiving the increase?"
item #3 "Should there be a limit on expenditures
for opponents to a petition?"
item #7 "Should the Council increase in size now
that Fridley is much larger than when the Charter
was adopted?"
item #8 "Should newly created Boards, Committees,
etc. , have a termination date, or is rejustication
necessary for further existence?"
item #11 "Should the Charter have something on
ethics of Council members and City .Administration?"
item #15 Should the Council or the Charter
Commission have the power to have advisory elections?
Mr. Brennan: item #4 "Should the City Manager serve totally at
the pleasure of the City Council, malting the job
political?'
item ##14 "Should each Council member and Mayor
appoint one member to each Board or Commission
subject to the Willigrs approval?" "Should the Mayor
also appoint members to. Civil Service subject to
the approval of the City Council?"
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B. Report from Subcommittees
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Mr. Pierce stated that he did not expect that they would be
having a lot of meetings, so that if anyone was interested in
the subcommittee he would send them a notice of the meetings.
Mr. Pierce stated that they had managed to have a brief meeting
this evening, and that they hoped to have another meeting at
the end of this month, or early next month. Mr. Pierce further
stated that as a subcommittee, they would either arrive at the
decision to offer a recommendation to the Commission for a
change, and their rationale, or come with a recommendation for
no change to the Charter.
MOTION was made by Mr. Berg to table item #6 which reads,
"Should there be a limit on the number of terms a person can
serve on the City Council?" . Motion was seconded by.Mr. Langer.
Upon a voice vote all voting aye, item #6 was tabled unanimously.
MOTION was made by Mr. Berg to table item #5 which reads, "Ref.
Section 7. 02 - Should there be a limit on the money spent in
addition to the mill limitation? Something like limit dollar
increases in the budget to the rate of inflation plus 1 or
2 percent?" Motion was seconded by Ms. Nagengast. Upon a
• voice vote, all voting aye, item #5 was tabled unanimously.
MOTION was made by Mr. Schaaf to table item #9 which reads,
"Can a person hold more than one elective office?" Motion was
seconded by Mr. Francis Adam van Dan. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the Motion to table item #9 passed unanimously.
Discussion ensued on the topic of either the City Council or the
Charter Commission having the power to have an advisory election.
Ms. Nagengast questioned the Commission on Charter Section ##2. 05
Vacancies in the Council. Discussion ensued.
MOTION was made by Mr. Treuenfels for the Commission to seek a
legal opinion and on precedent if any, on the Charter Section
#2. 05 VACANCIES IN THE COUNCIL wording of 'good cause' , found
in the sentence "or by reason of the failure of any councilman
without good cause. . " With the idea of someone with good cause
such as an accident may not be able to be removed. Motion was
seconded by Ms. Nagengast. Upon a voice vote all voting aye,
the Motion passed unanimously.
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Regarding the topic of the City Council vacancies, Mr. Berg
stated that he felt there was apt to be less trouble, by leaving
the vacancy unfilled than to have the Council fill it. He further
stated that there still was representation in the Mayor and the
Councilperson at Large. Also that if the Council were politically
polarized in their attitude, they wouldn't be able to agree on
a Council replacement anyway.
Mr. Pierce stated that he agreed with Mr. Berg in that view-
point. Also he pointed out that things that had to be done
would be done such as budget etc. , and things that weren't
of necessity would not be harmed by waiting.
Mr. Schaaf stated that he felt because of the cost and the low
voter turnout in a special election he wondered what would be
accomplished.
Mr. Francis Adam van Dan stated that he felt it should be searched
out on what to do if there were multiple vacancies on the Council
in which event there may not be a quorum to declare a vacancy.
Mr. Ash stated that this topic on Council vacancy had been assigned
to Mr. Pierce's subcommittee for them to bring back their
proposals and suggestions. Mr. Ash further stated that in the
past, they had given their proposals to the Council as a package,
instead of one proposal at a time.
Mr. Pierce stated that he also would like to deal with all the
topics as a package, unless something developed that would need
to be singled out for quick attention.
MOTION by Mr. Pierce to adjourn for the months of June, July,
and August, was seconded by Mr. Langer. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, the Motion passed unanimously.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
A. Updated list of Charter Commission members.
(See attachment)
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Mr. Schaaf wanted to state that there is a Bill now for automatic
recount for all Minnesota municipal elections that looks like
there is no doubt will pass . Because the Bill provided for
certain percentages , and different numbers when a recount
would be called for. Mr. Schaaf stated that he would get the
particular percentages, and numbers to the Commission.
MOTION by Ms . Maertens to adjourn. Seconded by dlr. Treuenfels.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the meeting adjourned at
9:25 P.M .
The next meeting will be September 4, 1979
Respectfully submitted,
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Elaine Reed
Recording Secretary
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