CHM 03/06/2017
CITY OF FRIDLEY
CHARTER COMMISSION MEETING
MARCH 6, 2017
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice Chairperson Ostwald called the Charter Commission meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Commissioners Gary Braam, Zach Crandall, Manuel Granroos, Cindy
Soule, David Ostwald, Barb Reiland, and Richard Walch
Members Absent: Commissioners Don Findell, Rick Nelson, Ted Kranz, Avonna Starck, and
Pam Reynolds
Others Present: Scott Lund, Mayor
Ann Bolkcom, Councilmember Ward 3
Wally Wysopal, City Manager
Jake Foster, Management Analyst
Bruce Nelson, Charter Commission Appointee
Richard Johnston, Charter Commission Appointee
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Braam MOVED and Commissioner Granroos seconded a motion to approve the
agenda.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRPERSON OSTWALD
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Vice Chairperson Ostwald noted that the bottom of page one reference Chairperson Reynolds’
name rather than his, and needed to be updated.
Commissioner Granroos noted that the word “depleting” was spelled wrong on page 5, and it
should be changed to the correct spelling.
With no other changes, Commissioner Braam MOVED and Commissioner Walch seconded a
motion approving the Charter Commission meeting minutes as amended of February 6, 2016.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRPERSON OSTWALD
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED.
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ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS
A.Oath of Office for Appointments
As Ms. Skogen was not able to attend and is the City official that performs the swearing-in
duties, the staff and commissioners in attendance decided to delay the swearing in of the new
commissioners
Commissioner Reiland MOVED and Commissioner Granroos seconded a motion allowing
for participation by appointees despite not being sworn in.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRPERSON OSTWALD
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED.
B.Election of officers
The commissioners reviewed the Nominations Committee Report, David Ostwald for
Chairperson, Donald Findell for Vice Chairperson, and Manuel Granroos for Secretary. Vice
Chairperson Ostwald opened the floor to further nominations. As there were no further
nominations, Vice Chairperson Ostwald closed the nominations.
Commissioner Soule MOVED and Commissioner Reiland seconded a motion to move the
Nominations Committee Report for the appointment of the 2017-18 Charter Commission
officers.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, NEWLY-ELECTED CHAIRPERSON
OSTWALD DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED.
C.Update on Chapter 2 Amendment
Mr. Wysopal provided an update for the Chapter 2 Amendment. The ordinance had the first
reading the previous Monday. There were no additional questions or comments on the
th
Amendment. He said the second reading will be on the consent agenda for March 13.
Mr. Wysopal also noted that Ms. Skogen was unavailable for family reasons.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON OSTWALD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED.
OLD BUSINESS
A.Discussion of Chapter 7
Chairperson Ostwald summarized the nature of the commission’s request made of city staff to
provide recommendations for how Chapter 7 can be appropriately updated. He asked Mr.
Wysopal and Mr. Foster to begin their presentation.
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Mr. Wysopal said city staff has spent a great deal of time working through solutions and
recommendations. They have tried to get to the essence of what Chapter 7 sought to achieve. He
said Fridley stood alone as to the type of the restrictions in the City’s Charter. He said staff has
looked to other Charter Cities for ideas and how the State law impacts city tax levies while
balancing what is already in the City’s Charter and its recall provision. He highlighted staff’s
consideration of what elected officials are responsible for within responsible local government.
Mr. Foster stated he would address the one page printed handout provided initially, and would
move to the handout. He reiterated what Mr. Wysopal said and summarized the impacts the levy
and fee restrictions in Chapter 7. He added staff recommended moving these restrictions toward
a process-driven solution.
After the summary, Mr. Foster spoke to the handout provided to Commissioners at the meeting.
He stated staff recommends the City move to a more simplified Chapter 7 that would eliminate
redundancy and an over-complexity, while adhering more closely to Generally Accepted
Accounting Principles (GAAP), the State Auditor’s guidelines, and State Statute. He added the
solution should set wide parameters for City government through the Charter while upholding
the protection of citizen interest, and relying on the recall provision for added protection. He
further detailed how the Charter should be ordinance and city code-driven.
Mr. Wysopal said citizen interest would be protected with this recommendation as an actual
deliberation process would be created with the removal of the levy and fee restrictions. He
added the Council is unable to have dialogue around competing priorities as these limitations
remove any flexibility as to what is funded.
Mr. Foster addressed how tying the levy to an index or a fixed percentage is also detrimental.
There are several scenarios that these concepts cannot account for. He reiterated how the
process-driven solution can provide further accountability and transparency for City Council.
Mr. Foster detailed the obscurity of such limitations. He noted that Fridley and Mounds View
are the only two cities in the State of Minnesota with levy restrictions, but Mounds View’s levy
restriction is more flexible. In addition, Mounds View has franchise fees in place to further
capture lost revenue.
Commissioner Soule asked if there were any other cities that do not have franchise fees on gas
and electric utilities. Mr. Foster said he believed that Fridley was the only city in the
surrounding area that had neither franchise fees in place.
Commissioner Soule described how franchise fees can help to broaden a city’s tax base, by
capturing non-property tax paying parcels which are not exempt from franchise fees. Mr.
Wysopal said she was correct, but Fridley did not have a lot of non-property tax paying parcels,
but rather had a great deal of commercial/industrial property. Mr. Wysopal did not think
franchise fees were a good solution for Fridley as their tax base has a large percentage of
commercial/industrial property.
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Chairperson Ostwald asked if the City ever had franchise fees. Mr. Wysopal said they did not.
Mr. Foster described how the restrictions in Chapter 7 occurred, and that it was largely
reactionary to a franchise fee ordinance passed by Council in 1999.
Commissioner Soule said she believed the language for the restrictions that were on the ballot in
2000 in response to the recalled ordinance were decided by an ad hoc group which included
many recall petition proponents. She thought there were some personality conflicts between the
Mayor at the time and those that were petitioning for the reverse referendum which created a lot
of conflict. Council member Bolkcom added that people who were running for state offices also
got involved.
Further discussion took place regarding the initial implementation of the Chapter 7 restrictions.
Mr. Foster then described additional impacts of the Chapter 7 restrictions before detailing how
the State influences cities’ tax levies through State Statute/State Law.
Mr. Foster described how West St. Paul once had a levy restrictions, how it differed from
Fridley’s current restriction, and how it has since been removed. He also described how Mounds
View’s restrictions varied from Fridley’s, and how they are written to be more flexible.
Commissioner Crandall asked what the differences, if any, in total levy were for West St. Paul
before and after the levy restriction was removed. Mr. Foster said this information would be
made available to the commissioners.
Mr. Foster described the arguments for and against using indexes and fixed percentages for
limiting the City’s levy, (page four of the handout).
Mr. Foster described numerous other considerations city staff took into consideration while
developing their recommendations. He suggested the Charter Commissioners should keep these
items in mind while updating Chapter 7 (listed on page five of the handout).
Commissioner Crandall raised concerns regarding using a process-driven solution for the
Chapter 7 restrictions. He thought it could be difficult to properly notify the public when such
meetings take place. Commissioner Walch thought it may provide a potential issue, but felt the
City knew how to communicate about public meetings. He wanted to have the City properly
broadcast these meetings.
Mayor Lund said this is an issue he and Council often struggle with. Further discussion took
place between the commissioners and other attendees surrounding these potential issues.
Mr. Wysopal agreed with everyone’s thoughts concerns. He said these issues are certainly
something that would need to be considered and approached creatively to ensure when any
changes are made to Chapter 7.
Further discussion took place regarding how citizens can be properly notified of public meetings.
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Mr. Wysopal said proper notice of such meetings wouldn’t be a concern with the Chapter 7
restrictions in place, as these conversations do not take place to begin with.
Commissioner Reiland said the commission largely agrees that something needs to be done
regarding Chapter 7, but they want to be sure transparency is considered throughout the budget
discussion period.
Chairperson Ostwald said as long as every reasonable effort is made to provide transparency and
notify the public, it is all that can be expected of City staff and Council. Additional discussion
took place regarding how these efforts could be made.
Mr. Foster detailed the potential budget setting process (page six of the handout). The
commissioners reviewed the process while Mr. Foster provided the main bullet points for
updating the language around the “fees” section of Chapter 7.
Mr. Wysopal said staff didn’t present the Commission with a “red-lined” version of the Chapter,
because they wanted the feedback of the Commissioners in regards to their
proposal/recommendations.
Chairperson Ostwald said there appears to be consensus that Chapter 7 needs to be updated. Mr.
Wysopal and the Commission discussed the timeline for these changes, leaving it largely open-
ended.
Councilmember Bolkcom thought it might be a good idea for the Charter Commissioners to
review Council’s budget book in order to better understand the budget process and evaluate
Chapter 7.
Commissioner Walch asked if staff could possibly put together a copy of what a “red-lined”
Chapter 7 might look. He felt the Commission was largely unqualified to address any of the
finance/best-practice issues within the chapter. He said Chapter 7 is unworkable as it is and that
the concerns everyone has raised need to be addressed.
Commissioner Crandall and Commissioner Soule agreed a “first draft” of editing Chapter 7
should come from the Commission, not City staff.
Commissioner Walch agreed, but he also stated some of the language seemed amateurish and
reads as though it comes from people who are not professionally capable of providing such
direction.
Commissioner Braam suggested they invite members who were involved in the original petition
to attend the next meeting.
Further discussion took place regarding how the Commission should move forward regarding
Chapter 7.
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Mr. Wysopal said it is often helpful to start from something, and the current version isn’t
necessarily a good place to start from. He also asked if it would make sense to offer examples
from other charters.
Commissioner Reiland suggested the Commissioners take a look at this information and work on
it with one another.
Commissioner Walch stated he would like to see a hybrid approach that keeps the hard limit, but
provides the ability for some flexibility and ability for Council to override the limit based on a
unanimous decision for them to levy beyond the limit.
Commissioner Reiland asked if there were any sections within Chapter 7 that were more
“workable” than others. Mr. Wysopal said staff started by looking at the levy and fee restriction
language, but quickly found there were other areas that were contradictory and insufficient in
adhering to GAAP and State law.
Mr. Foster offered to provide a summary of the areas where the finance department
recommended making changes to Chapter 7, so the commissioners could work from that
document. Commissioner Reiland agreed it would be helpful.
Mr. Wysopal asked if there were any other items that the Commissioners would like for the next
meeting.
Commissioner Crandall said it sounded like the Commissioners were ready to approach making
changes to Chapter 7, but it would likely be a long process. Chairperson Ostwald agreed and
said they were likely going to put in a lot of extra work to properly address the chapter.
Commissioner Braam mentioned Chairperson Ostwald could call an additional meeting if
necessary.
Mr. Wysopal asked if the Commissioners would be interested in a red-lined proposal of Chapter
7. Commissioner Crandall said it would be interesting to see the budget items that are absolutely
necessity vs. the items that can be deferred.
Further discussion took place regarding these items and other information that might be helpful
for the commission’s deliberation of Chapter 7.
Mr. Wysopal asked what the reluctance was to allow the Council to debate the budget in full, and
that if they agreed, that the control to make these decisions was left in the hand of Council.
Commissioner Soule said the recall provision in the Charter allows for a check on the Council’s
power, as well.
Mr. Wysopal said Fridley is more reliant on their tax levy than other cities because they lack
diversity in their revenue. The City doesn’t receive fiscal disparities, doesn’t have franchise fees
in place, doesn’t receive a lot of State aide, and doesn’t have additional fund sources for revenue.
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Chairperson Ostwald said the fixed limits proposed by Commissioner Walch will likely leave the
City running into the same problems they are experiencing now, but a complete “free-for-all”
isn’t what he is advocating for either.
Commissioner Walch reiterated the “hard-limit” he was referring to would still allow for some
flexibility to override the limit. He said it is hard to advocate for a complete reversal and
Commissioner Crandall agreed. Mr. Wysopal expressed his concern as the City has been left
with little options to ensure their financial stability in the future.
Commissioner Soule asked how the Commissioners wanted to move forward. Chairperson
Ostwald said they would like the information that was previously requested, and asked if an
additional meeting would be helpful. Both Commissioners Granroos and Braam thought it
would be good to get the information ahead of time to have a chance to look through it before the
next meeting in April.
Mr. Foster recapped what materials were requested from staff and asked if there is any other
information they would like. The Commissioners discussed these items and wanted to make sure
there wasn’t anything else they thought might be helpful for the next meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
A.There was no new business.
FUTURE TOPCIS
Administrative Matters
–Swearing in of new members
-Update of Chapter 2 Amendment
Old Business
Discussion of Chapter 7
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Reiland MOVED and Commissioner Granroos seconded a motion to adjourn the
meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON OSTWALD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 8:47 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Jake Foster Commissioner Donald Findell
Management Inter/Staff Liaison Manuel Granroos
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