PCM 11-15-23
Planning Commission
November 15,2023
7:00 PM
Fridley City Hall, 7071 University Avenue NE
Minutes
Call to Order
Chair Hansencalled the Planning Commission Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present
Pete Borman
John Buyse II
Mark Hansen
Mike Heuchert
Aaron Klemz
Terry McClellan
Ross Meisner
Others Present
Stacy Stromberg, Planning Manager
Nancy Abts, Associate Planner
Approval of Meeting Minutes
1.Approve October 18,2023, Planning Commission Minutes
Motionby Commissioner Meisnerto approve the minutes. Seconded by Commissioner Buyse.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chair Hansen declared the motion carried unanimously.
Public Hearing
2.Public Hearing to Consider Interim Use Permit, IUP #23-01, to Allow an Electric Security Fence
Use at 3737 East River Road
Motionby Commissioner Bormanto open the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner Meisner.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chair Hansen declared the motion carried unanimously and the public
hearing was opened at 7:01p.m.
Nancy Abts, Associate Planner,presented a request from Amarokon behalf of Copartseeking
approval for a ten-foot-talllow voltage electric security perimeter fence for the existing automotive
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auctionand outdoor storage use at 3737 East River Road. She reviewed the previous Special Use
Permits that were issued for this use. She provided a site description and reviewed the history of the
site. She reviewed the criteria and analysis for an Interim Use Permit (IUP) and provided additional
details on landscaping. She then reviewed the proposed stipulations of approval. She asked that the
Commission hold the public hearing and stated that staff recommends approval with the stipulations.
Commissioner Buyse asked how the City would know that the use has discontinued. Ms. Abts
commented that staff is active in code enforcement and would discover that if the applicant did not
expressly tell the City.
Commissioner Klemz asked if the fence has already been installed. Ms. Stromberg replied that the
fence is installed and the request from the applicant is to make the installation legal. She confirmed
that the fence was installed in 1994. She also confirmed that the landscaping plan is from 1987 and
the stipulation would require compliance with that plan to some degree. Commissioner Klemz stated
that it seems odd that the first IUP being considered is to ratify a site that is over 30 years old and
has not been in compliance with paying park dedication fees or its landscaping plan for several
decades. He stated that if approved there is a stipulation that the park dedication would be paid
within 30 days and asked if that could be required before the City Council consider the application.
Stacy Stromberg, Planning Manager, confirmed that change to the stipulation could be made. Ms.
Abts commented that for this site the park dedication would have been collected with a building
permit but there has not been a building permit, therefore staff believed it would be appropriate for
that fee to be paid at this time.
Commissioner Heuchert asked and received confirmation that it was both the height and
electrification that require the IUP. He asked for more details on how an electrified fence is a use, as
the use of the parcel is already approved. Mr. Stromberg stated that the auto auction use is permitted
through the Special Use Permit and this change would make the electric fence, that has existed for
30 years, legal through the use of an IUP. She stated that the fence would be removed if the use
leaves the site. She stated that the applicant was going to apply for a text amendment to allow
electric fences in all industrial districts, but staff felt that an IUP would be a better tool to allow this
use.
Commissioner Klemz asked if approving this IUP would set precedent for future requests. He stated
that while he could see that an electric fence would make sense in this location, there are other similar
uses adjacent to residential that would not be a good fit for an electric fence. Ms. Abts replied that
approving this IUP would not set precedent for future requests as it is unique to the property and
temporary. She stated that anyone can make a request, but the request must be considered on its
own merits.
Commissioner Borman stated that the staff report made it seem that the fence was not already in
place, but received confirmation that the electric fence has been installed and in use for 30 years. Mr.
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Stromberg stated that the Fire Department responded to a call four months ago and alerted staff to
the fence which led to this path forward.
Commissioner McClellan asked and received confirmed that the Fire Department would have the
appropriate key, or knowledge from the property owner, to disarm the fence if needed.
Commissioner Buyse asked if the City had previous knowledge of the fence. Ms. Stromberg stated
that staff was not aware of the fence. She stated that the electric fence is inside the existing
corrugated fence. She commented that the owner/operator has not been the same since 1994.
Commissioner Klemz asked and received confirmation that the owner of the site asked staff for
approval to install an electric fence in 1994, was told to apply for a text amendment, did not do so
and then installed the fence anyway.
Commissioner McClellan asked and received confirmation that the payment in lieu of trees planted
would be placed into a forestry fund rather than the general fund.
Commissioner Meisner asked the length of the current ownership. He asked the schedule for
business inspections, as he would anticipate that an unapproved property enhancement would have
been caught during that process. Ms. Stromberg replied that a building permit has not been pulled
since the 1990s, therefore she was unsure how often the Fire Department would have inspected the
business. She noted that typically permitting is the trigger for business inspections.
Chris Eaton, Amarock, commented that the original owner of the company started as a guard dog
company which then morphed into an electric fence type of protection. He stated that the use has
always been an auto auction use and his company protects their sites all over the country. He stated
that they reviewed previous City Council minutes from the 1990s and the only instance he could find
was related to a discussion of a potential text amendment for an electric fence and while there
seemed to be positive input from the Council, there did not seem to be any follow up therefore he
was unsure where the miscommunication arose. He stated that they found out about this from the
Fire Department, and they then worked with City staff to find a solution when they discovered the
fence was not permitted. He stated that people are not aware of the fence because it is fairly
transparent from the outside and is only armed when it needs to be armed. He further explained
how the fence works and stated that his company owns the fence and if the use changes, they would
remove the fence themselves. He asked that the Commission recommend approval of the fence as
it would allow continued protection of the property. He confirmed that the signage has been in place
and was updated to match his company’s current standards.
Commissioner Buyse asked why Amarock is here rather than Copart. Mr. Eaton replied that his
company owns the fence and leases it to the business owner. Commissioner Buyse commented that
it seems strange that Copart is not here to address the other elements such as landscaping. Ms.
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Stromberg stated that it is typical that another party can applyfor a land use application for the
property owner, provided the property owners signs off on the application, noting a similar situation
in the next case. She clarified that Amarock is the petitioner. Commissioner Buyse asked why money
would be accepted in lieu of the landscaping they would want to see. Ms. Abts replied that the
recommendation is born out of practicality as there are not many opportunities to plant onsite given
the 40 plus years of auto auction that has occurred onsite.
Commissioner Meisner asked if there has ever been enforcement on the lack of landscaping. Ms.
Abts replied that the records do not show such actions.
Commissioner McClellan asked and received confirmation from Mr. Eaton that Amarock owns the
fence and has owned the fence since its installation since 1994.
Commissioner Borman asked if Amarock would be paying the fee in lieu of landscaping. Mr. Eaton
replied that Amarock is responsible for the fence,but the landscaping is the responsibility of Copart.
He commented that Amarock did not know that this fence was not permitted when it was installed.
He commented that while this seems unusual, this is not an unusual occurrence to find that
something was not properly permitted. Commissioner Borman expressed frustration with this case
being presented as something that has not yet happened only to find out this fence has existed for
decades. He also expressed frustration with Copart not being present to provide input on the
stipulations that would be directed towards the business related to park dedication and landscaping.
Commissioner Buyse commented that it would have been reasonable to give Copart time to plant
trees, if they had not already had 30 years to do so and is not present tonight, therefore he supports
the payment in lieu. Mr. Eaton noted that Copart may be in the same position of Amarock in that
ownership has changed hands over the last 30 years and the current managers and principles had no
idea of these outstanding issues, therefore all they can do it try to make it right at this time.
Commissioner Meisner asked what would occur if the applicant were to try to plant the trees and the
trees were to die. Ms. Stromberg replied that the City is going to review its landscaping policy in the
coming months to ensure they make sense. She stated that in this instance there is not a lot of space
to plant trees, but if trees are planted and they die, the tree would need to be replaced. She
commented on the staff turnover since the 1980s, noting that the landscaping plan was in the file,
but she cannot say with certainty that it was an approved landscape plan. She commented that most
of the landscaping was in the right-of-way and therefore permission would have been needed from
Anoka County. She stated that nonconformities on the site have been identified and the current
owners are trying to resolve them.
Commissioner Meisner asked if there are other electric fences in the city. Ms. Stromberg replied not
that she is aware of.
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Motionby Commissioner Meisnerto close the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner Heuchert.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chair Hansen declared the motion carried unanimously and the public
hearing was closed at 8:02 p.m.
Commissioner McClellan commented that he feels pressure to fix something that has been
unresolved for decades and would have preferred for someone from Copart to be present.
Commissioner Buyse commented that while is does seem fishy, it could also be a mistake that
occurred years ago. He stated that if the application were brought forward today, he would support
the fence but would want it to be visually hidden. He also recognized that may not be something
that is fixable.
Commissioner Meisner commented that this is located in an industrial area and therefore is not
impacting residential properties.
Commissioner Klemz commented that he believes this is the best solution as he would not support
a text amendment allowing electric fences district wide. He stated that he would like to see park
dedication paid prior to this moving to the City Council. He stated that while there are concerns that
this has been unpermitted for 30 plus years, this does appear to be the best solution.
Chair Hanson commented that he lives in this area and therefore drives by frequently and was not
aware this fence existed. He recognized that there was probably miscommunication between all
parties related to the original permit and also believed that this is the best method to resolve the
situation, agreeing that the park dedication should be paid before moving to the City Council.
Motion by Commissioner Klemz recommending approval of the Interim Use Permit until the present
automotive auction use is discontinued, subject to stipulations and amending the park dedication
stipulation to state that park dedication be paid prior to the City Council meeting. Seconded by
Commissioner Buyse.
Further discussion: Commissioner Meisner asked if additional language should be stated that in lieu of
the landscaping requirements, the payment could be made.
Commissioner Buyse commented that the applicant would have one year to do so or make the payment.
Commissioner Klemz commented that if the trees would be feasible, he would be fine with the trees
being planted. He believed the requirement was reasonable as stipulated and wanted to allow the
applicant to make the decision.
Upon a voice vote, six voting aye, one voting nay (Borman), Chair Hansen declared the motion carried.
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3. Public Hearing to Consider Special Use Permit, SP #23-03 to Allow an Assisted Living Use at 6425
Highway 65 N.E.
Motion by Commissioner Buyse to open the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner Meisner.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chair Hansen declared the motion carried unanimously and the public
hearing was opened at 8:16 p.m.
Stacy Stromberg, Planning Manager, presented a request for a Special Use Permit to covert the
property at 6425 Highway 65 to a Supervised Living Facility (assisted living facility). She noted that
this use is permitted through the Minnesota Department of Health. She reviewed the site description
and history of the previous activity of the site noting the last use as a chiropractic clinic. She reviewed
the applicable Code requirements and analysis of the request. She asked that the Planning
Commission hold the public hearing and stated that staff recommends approval of the request
subject to the reviewed stipulations.
Commissioner McClellan asked if there are any other similar facilities in Fridley. Ms. Stromberg
replied that all other assisted living facilities in the City would be similar. She confirmed that this
would be a short-term facility with stays of 30 to 90 days. Commissioner McClellan asked if there
were any concerns from Public Safety. Ms. Stromberg replied that Public Safety did not have any
concerns.
Commissioner Klemz asked if the applicant owns any other facilities in Fridley.
Drew Horwitz, Horwitz Health, stated that this would be their first project in Fridley and fourth project
in the metro. He commented that they like the building and location and believe this would also be
an improvement for the site. He recognized that there are not many short-term facilities in this area.
He stated that this facility would serve people 55 plus that experience cognitive delays and disorders,
whether that is due to injury or age. He confirmed that this would be a transitional care facility and
after their stay they could return home or to wherever would best care for them. He commented
that all of their guests are staying their voluntarily and do not require a locked facility.
Stephanie Goode, Howitz Health, provided details on the security that would be implemented and
the screening that is completed to ensure the resident would be appropriate for this facility. Mr.
Horwitz stated that they also have case managers that help to develop a long-term plan for the
residents, should that be needed.
Motion by Commissioner Meisner to close the public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner Buyse.
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Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chair Hansen declared the motion carried unanimously and the public
hearing was closed at 8:30 p.m.
Commissioner Borman noted that there were residents that attended the public hearing for a
previous use request for this property that requested the wooded area remain but be cleaned up.
Commissioner Buyse believed that this use would better fit the space compared to the previously
requested daycare use that may have had some issues with parking.
Motion by Commissioner Meisner recommending revocation of the previously approved Special Use
Permits for this property. Seconded by Commissioner Klemz.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chair Hansen declared the motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Commissioner Klemz recommending approval of the Special Use Permit, subject to
stipulations. Seconded by Commissioner McClellan.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chair Hansen declared the motion carried unanimously.
Other Business
Ms. Stromberg provided an update on planning actions recently considered by the Council as well
as items that are on the agenda to discuss in the coming year.
Adjournment
Motion by Commissioner McClellan to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Commissioner Heuchert.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chair Hansen declared the motion carried unanimously and the meeting
adjourned at 8:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Amanda Staple, Recording Secretary