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PLATS & SUBDNISIONS-
STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMrIITTEE DECENIBER 3, 1968 PAGE 1
ROLL CALL•
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Jensen at 7:35 P.M.
Members Present: Nagel, Myhra, Batterson, Schmedeke, Jensen
Others Present: Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistant
1. STREET STUD�Y: PROPOSED VACATION OF 73� AVENUE (PROJECT ST. 1969-3):
The Chairman com�ented that the Council wished an opinion on the
possibility of vacating 73� Avenue in order to get more right of way for
the proposed State Aid street on 73rd Avenue and suggestions for resolving
the obvious problems of landlocked lots, approval of trading land, necessity
of service drive and crossover at 73� Avenue. He said that 73rd Avenue
is one of the streets that has been designated as a State Aid street for
many years. It is now in the Street Improvement Project St. 1969-3 and
Council is faced with the problem of additional right of way. The object
of this Impravement is to extend 73rd Avenue from Central Avenue to
Highway #65 so that the excellent County Road East of Central Avenue and
the new industrial heavy duty street West of Highway #65 are joined. It
is hoped that owners of lots facing 73rd Avenue would not abject to losing
33 feet at the South edge of their property and in exchange, gain on the
North edge (73� Avenue) and this possibility was to be checked. If 73�
Avenue were to remain a street, the people facing 73rd would have to pay
for curb and gutter on both sides of their property. One of the disad-
vantages of vacating would be people on the North of 732 Avenue would lack
access for the middle lots and there being no service road for Highway ��65
from 73rd to Fireside Drive. He observed that there was not sufficierit space
available on Highway #65 to provide a right of way. It was noted there is
a parcel of land 1,341 feet long and 140 feet wide from Highway ��65 to
Central Avenue. The possibility of using this for exit onto Central Avenue
was briefly mentioned.
The Subcommittee wondered if the best way to handle this problem
would be to make a multiple recommendation of the findings somecahat as
follows: that the use for 73� Avenue is limited; that the community would
be well served if the need for the vacating of 73� Avenue could be put in a
position where the application would be considered upon presentation ot the
property owners; and also if the problem of frontage on Highway ��65 could
be solved by using a service drive angling back around Superior 400 Gas
Station, out to Highway ��65 and up to Fireside Drive.
The Subco�ittee asked the Engineering Assistant to meet with the
major property owners of Blocks 1 and 2, Central View Manor and get their
opinion of the possible vacation of 73�Z Avenue.
Another problem is that the zoning differs on areas opposite one another
along 73� Avenue and the realignment of the zoning would be essential to any
future plans. All utilities are in and go down 73� Avenue.
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MOTION by Nagel, seconded by Myhra, that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee table the proposed vacation of 73� Avenue
until the probable meeting of January 7, 196� with the instructions to the
Engineering Department to contact the major property owners of Block 1 and 2
for a better idea of their thoughts concerning the vacatir�n of 73� Avenue.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unani.mously.
3, MINNESOTA STATE AID MILEAGE DESIGNATION:
A City map showing the streets suggested for State Aid and those
which could be taken off because they no longer qualify or have had recent
construction was studied by the Subcommittee. The method of designating
State Aid Streets was explained by the Engineering Assistant. The State
has two basic designs for streets, Urban and Rural, the difference being
in the width, depth of the street and the curb and gutter. Fridley uses
the Urban design whenever possible. A State Aid street has to connect
two other collector streets or thoroughfares. It is advisable to desig-
nate a street that is fairly well improved so that there is no need in the
near future of having to rebuild it to State Aid street standards. Examples
of this are Alden Way and Rice Creek Terrace. The reason for using this
criteria is that we are spending more money than we can collect, the result
of which we are now experiencing by having to remove the improved streets
from the system in order to keep our total Needs up.
The Subco�nittee asked the Engineering Assistant if he could get
traffic counts on the streets they are interested in for the designation
at the next meeting. He agreed.
MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcom�nittee table the item of State Aid Mileage
Designation to the meeting of January 7, 1968. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
3. ING SIVERTS•
Mr. Siverts referred to his Registered Land Survey ��68-02 stating he
was selling several of the tracts and wished to know if the purchasers
could build without sewer or water serving the land. He was informed that,
according to the ordinance, if the lot area is 18,000 square feet or more,
the awner can put in his own private sewer and water ayetem. The lots he
referred to had more than the required footage. However, he was told that
when the area develops, sewer and water will probably include these lots.
Mr. Siverts sold an interior lot which had a road used by him, but
the new owner has blocked this off. He now has a new entrance to his lot
and would like a street sign and asked about the procedure. The Engineering
Assistant was to take care of th�is.
ADJOURNMENT :
There being no further business, Chairman Jensen adjourned the
meeting at 9:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted
Hazel 0'Brian
Recording Secretary