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PL SUBCOM 05/15/1969 - 31041� i PLATS � SUBDIVISIONS-� STREETS � UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING MAY 15, 1969 PAGE 1 The meeting was called to order by Vice Chairman Thomas Myhra at :30 P.M. ROLL CALL: MEMBERS PRESENT: Crowder, Batterson, Myhra, Zeglen MEMBERS ABSENT ; Jensen OTHERS PRESENT: Engineering Assistant Clark 1. CONTINUED VACATION RE UEST: SAV #69-03, GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY CO.: Al1ey an Streets in Bloc , Berlin A ition. The Engineering Assistant reported that as far as the railroad is concerned, we can await their decision. This request can be passed to the Planning Commission requesting an easement for a power line and utilities. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Batterson, that the Plats � Subdivisions-�Streets � Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission approval of the vacation request, SAV #69-03, Great Northern Rail�ay Company of the alley and two streets in Block 6, Berlin Addition contingent on the proper utility easements to the City, Northern States Power Company and Standard Oil Company as they exist now. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 2, LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. #69-14, STANLEY C. DAHLBERG: Bloc 2, Spring Valley A dition. Mrs. Stanley Dahlberg and Curtis Dahlberg were present. Dahlberg explained there were two different ways shown on a they request either one. The plan showed the South portion divided and allowing 25 feet for a road easement. Lot 11, Curtis map, and of Lot 11 Because this area had not begun to develop, ther� being about five vacant lots left on 64th Avenue, it is hard to predict where the road at the center of Block 2, Spring Valley Addition, would go. As future requests would come in for lot splits the people would then be asked to dedicate for the road. By permitting narrow lots, the City ordinance would be violated. It was pointed out that the price range in this area does not warrent 125 foot lots for homes. It was felt that by splitting the lot according to line "A" (splitting the lot into two parcels), there would be no violations, and later on, when the area would be developed, the petitioner could consider anotfier split if feasible. At the present time, a building permit could not be issued. r- a- Plats � Subs.-Streets � Utilities minutes May 15, 1969 Pa e� 2 The matter of a certificate of survey came up, and the Engineering Assistant explained that, in this case, where there is plenty of land between the garage and the line of "A", and no building permit can be issued until a road goes through, it may not be necessary for a certificate of survey inasmuch as, when a building permit is requested, a certificate of survey would be required. Because of this, the petitioner could ask Council to waive the requirement. As far as the legal description of the proposed lot split was concer- ned, it was felt this would not be complicated. MOTION by Batterson, seconded by Crowder, that the Plats � Subdivisions�Streets $ Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission approval of Lot Split #69-14, Stanley C. Dahlberg, of Lot ll, Block 2, Spring Valley Addition as shown on the diagram presented with the request, subject to a 25 foot road easement across the South portion of the lot, and that the petitioner bring the suggested legal description to the Planning Commission. Upon a voice vote,all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 3. LOT SPLIT RE UEST; L.S. #69-15, ARTHUR DEYS: Lots 3 thru 5, B�oc�de Parc Addition. Mr. Arthur Deys was present. The lot split involved Lots 3,4, and 5. Lot 4 would be split in half. Mr. Deys explained that, if the lot split went through, the existing garage would be on Lot 3 and have to be moved. He planned to build on Lot 3, and the existing house, in which he now lives, would probably be torn down within a few years. Now it is out of line with the houses in the rest of the block. The side yard is close. Vice Chairman Myhra suggested,that as a formality, the Chairman of the Board of Trustees should submit a statement concurring with the lot split rec{uest. The question was brought up, regarding the existing house, that if the house were torn down could the foundation be built on? The answer was that it could if it met the building code requirements. Also, no permit could be issued on the new parcel until the garage was moved. MOTION by Crourder, seconded by Batterson, that the Plats � Subdivisions��Streets F� Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission approval of L.S. #69-15 with the following contingencies: 1) Filing necessary paper work of obtaining a 5 foot work and repair easement for the existing house which will remain in force as long as the present house location requires an easement. 2) Removal of the garage, 20'x12', as shown on the sketch, before that lot can be further developed. 3) That the Director of the Board of Fridley Church of Christ submit his approval of this lot split request. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Myhra suggested that Mr. Deys have the description of the proposed lot split available for the Planning Commission meeting. r r Plats � Subs.-Streets $ Utilities minutes May 15, 1969 Page 3 4. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. #69-16, WM. J. KAHLE: Part of Lot 1 Block 1, Worrel's Addition. � Mr. Kahle was present. The request is for a 15'x25' piece of ground to be used only for a garden which abuts the East line of Outlot 1 owned by Mr. Kahle. As there would be no problem of easements for road or utilities, the descriptions as written in the letter from the office of Barna � Guzy were studied. The Subcommittee agreed that a certificate of survey be waived as surveying costs would be higher than the cost of the land, and no buildings were involved. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Zeglen, that the Plats � Subdivisions-Streets � Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission approval of the Lot Split request #69-16 according to the drawing for such split as shown on the map and with the enclosure of that request, the legal description of the split as in a letter dated May 15, 1969 from the law offices of Barna � Guzy, and also that the request for waiver of the certificate of survey be approved. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 5. CONTINUED REZONING RE UQ EST: ZOA #69-02, GEORGE M. NELSON: N 1 2 of Lots 30 and 31, Aud. Sub. 129 except �1ort 125 feet. Mr. George M, Nelson and Dennis Herbst (Lot 28) were present. The Engineering Assistant, referr-��gto the Planning Commission meeting of May 8th, said that it was apparent that the owners of Lots 22, 24, 26, and 28 were nDt interested in having the back portion of their lots rezoned now, nor having a street, and as the hearing went on, they began to realize if a street went through, the assessments would be quite high and R-1 values would not make the land worth the assessments. If the lots were developed R-3 in the back half, then they would be put in a bind without the street. Nothing was resolved. If Arthur Street continued North, then more apartment traffic would go up to Onondaga. The problem is, if Mr, Nelson's request is granted, where is the street pattern terminated. The Commission wondered if the proposed street from the middle of the lots to the cul de sac, could be closed and the street continue between Lots 28 and 30 and the owners to the south would use 73rd Avenue. There is also the problem of frontage lots. Lot 24, having a double frontage, would take twice the rate of assessments as Lot 25 which is tv the south and would be served by 73rd Avenue. Mr.� C�p�der asked if the Planning Commission is looking to the Sub- committee for what they would recommend as a street pattern if Mr. NelsonFs request i� granted? Do we generally layout a street pattern anticipating a rezoning request and then get a street pattern? The a r �lats � Sul�s �Str, � Uti,l, Subc Mtg Ma 15, 1969 Page 4 Engineering Assistant said that because the zoning is unsettled like it is, we should study different zoning possibilities. He was not so sure the residents realized sewer and water doubles the cost with the rezoning down the half of the lots. It seems to be a matter of economics. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Zeglen, that the Plats � Subdivisions- Streets � Utilities Subcommittee, based on the exhaustive study of the street layout contained in the rezoning request, ZOA #69-02, George M. Nelson, of the North Half of Lots 30 and 31, Auditor's Subdivision #129, except the North 125 feet, recommend to the Planning Commission that, should the zoning request be granted, it must contain a provision for the 25 foot road easement on that portion of Lot 30 bordering Lot 28. This easement is necessary to develop the street pattern as shown on the Proposed Street Layout of t e or east uarter o Section 12 to t e West of Lot 30. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Crowder that the Plats � Subdivisions-Streets � Utilities Subcommittee meeting of May 15, 1969 be adjourned at 9:40 P.M. Respectfully su�mitted ��������.i Haz 0'Brian Recording Secretary