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PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-
STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OCTOBER 21, 1970 7:00 P.M. PAGE 1
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Schmedeke at 7:05 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Zeglen,
Member Absent: Crowder
Others Present: Darrel
Kelshaw, Meissner, Schmedeke
Clark, Engineering Assistant
1. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. �70-12, BY SUNII�'iT GEAR INC.: Lot 6, Auditor's
Subdivision 4�78: To split off the South 200 ft. of the East 363 ft.
of Lot 6- balance of property has been sold.
Mr. H. J. Kohnen was the representative from Summit Gear Co. and explained
that this property had been sold some time ago but the proper application was
not filed at that time and the assessments could not be divided. He would appre-
ciate the requested acted on before the end of the year in order for the 1971
tax statement to be corrected. The property sold was Lot 7 and Lot 6 except
the South 200 feet of the East 363 feet where the present building is. The
first sale was in January af 1969 to the Reuter Company and then in January of
1970 this company sold to the railroad company.
Mr. Schmedeke asked if the West line would be even with the West line of
the Columbia Mill Works property and Drug Supply. He was assured it would.
Mr. Meissner called attention to Parcel 1900, which is about 22.5 feet wide,
located between Lots 6 and 7. The Engineering Assistant explained that this is
cal�ed a description gap. As long as the property North and South of the "gap"
is under one ownership, it would not be difficult to acquire the land. This
situation is caused by starting to survey a piece of land at both ends and,
when the middle is reached and the measurements do not coincide, the difference
is called a"description gap". In this case, there is extra land left over
and the railroad company owns property on both sides of the gap.
The certificate of survey presented by Mr. Kohnen showed a 33 foot dedica-
tion for a road along Main Street. It was felt that, as long as the half section
did not show this dedication, the deed probably was not filed and should be
checked further by the Engineering Department.
MOTION by Meissner, seconded by Zeglen, that the Plats & 5ubdivisions-
Streets & Utilities 5ubcommittee recommend approval to the Planning Commission
of the lot split request, L.S. #70-12, by Summit Gear, Inc. to split off the
South 200 feet of the East 363 feet of Lot 6, Auditor's Subdivision #78 as
described in the lot split application subject to the determination that the
proper easement for the 33 feet along Main Street be filed in Anoka County.
Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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2. LOT SPLIT RE UEST, L S �70-13, BY DUFFY LUMBER COMPANY REPRESENTED BY
JAMES N. NEILSON, ATTY.: Lots 8 and 9, Block 6, Spring Brook Park.
Darrel Clark said that the original lot split was recorded in the County
in 1960. The land and dwellings are now under one ownership and the owner wishes
to sell, but does not want to use the 1960 lot line and is requesting a new lot
line. The proposed lot line would meet the sideyard requirements for the
garage on Lot 8, and the land area for the dwelling on Lots 6, 7 and 8 is more
than adequate to meet the ordinance requirements. Also, the new line would be
straight. There would be no difficulty with the legal description which is a
little bit long but very clear.
Chairman Schmedeke explained that as long as the owner is the same for both
parcels, and the proposed lot line will allow sufficient land area to meet the
City Codes, it would seem logical to concur.
MOTION by Zeglen, seconded by Meissner, that the PZats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission approval
of the lot split request, L.5. #70-13, by Duffy Lumber Company of Lots 8 and
9, Block 6, Spring Brook Park as shown on the certificate of survey dated
May 26, 1970. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
3. PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. ��70-04, FIVE SANDS BY FIVE SANDS, INC.:
Generally located South of 79th Way, East of East River Road, West of the
railroad tracks and North of 78th Way.
Chairman Schmedeke reminded the Subcommittee that it was not necessary to
act on the request this evening because it is quite a large project and the
public hearing before the Planning Commission is November 4, 1970.
Mr. James Kurth, surveyor, represented the Five Sands, Inc.
Mr. Zeglen commented he noticed construction of an apartment on Lot l.
Mr. Kurth said that the concept will be built in Phases because of financing.
When one structure is completed, they will be able to get the money to start
another. In order to get the assessments for each building, the lots would
have to be defined. At the present time, there are two fee owners, Five Sands,
Inc. and Pearson's Inc.; however, Five Sands, Inc. have a contract to purchase
all the property in the proposed plat. The problem was whether to plat or have
a registered land survey. Because the property was torrens, platting was
chosen as easements for streets and utilities would be neces.sary.
A map will be available for the Subcommittee at the next meeting showing
the water system, and they are using underground utilities� Mr. Kurth said.
Mr. Meissner asked the purpose of the Outlots. Mr. Kurth e�lained that
an outlot is a piece of property which is impossible to use for normal building
site, and is usually sold in conjunction with the adjoining lot, or is used for
some other purpose than a regular lot. In the proposed plat there are seven
lots and three outlots, A, B and C. Lot 7 will be used for a recreation area
and will be called a common area lot in that each of the units surrounding the
lot have the right to use the facilities. Outlots call attention to the fact
that there is something to look into so that the buyer would beware.
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Mr. Kurth said that the building plans have been checked by the fire
department. There will be 295 apartments and 580 parking stalls. There are
no plans to use the Outlots. The land to the South contains the Pool Center,
Barry Blower and open land.
The Engineering Assistant said that any legal problems would be gone over
with the City Attorney.
MOTION by Zeglen, seconded by Kelshaw, that the proposed preliminary p1at,
P.S. #70-04, Five Sands, by Five Sands, Incorporated be tabled until the
November 4, 1970 meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. _
ADJOURNMENT :
There being no further business, Chairman Schmedeke adjourned the meeting
at 7:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted
Hazel 0'Brian
Recording Secretary