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PL SUBCOM 08/30/1972 - 31126CI 0 FRIDLEY PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS- STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCO1�AiITTEE AUGUST 30, 1972 PAGE 1 CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by Acting Chairman Meissner. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Engdahl, Forster, Meissner, French Members Absent: Schmedeke Others Present: Darrel Clark; Engineering Assistant 1. LOT SPLIT RE UEST: L.S. ��72-07, JOHN KOPROWSKI: Lot 13, Auditor's Subdivision No. 23. Mr. John Koprowski was present. Mr. Clark explained that at first Mr. Koprowski didn`t know far certain what he wanted to put on the vacant lot. He has decided to put anotfier single family dwelling on the lot West of Riverview Terrace. The remaining 1ot with the existing house would be 18,000 square feet which is the mini�n}um for a cesspool. Referring to the drawing presented this evening, he said that the house by the river on the left hand side of the drawing is much lower than the sanitary sewer and a lift pump would have to be install,ed. Depend- ing on what that would cost, Council may or may not waive the requirement of hooking on to the sanitary sewer. Acting Chairman Meissner said that he recognized the physical separation of the lot East of Riverview Terrace. Would it be included in the legal description of the lot split? Mr. Clark answered that the legal des.cription for this piece would not be very long. Probably it would be L�t 13, Auditor's Subdivision No. 23 lying East of Riverview Terrace as now laid out and constructed. The middle lot could be the East 120 feet of the West so ma.ny feet. The lot by the river could be the West 200 feet of Lot 13, Auditor's Subdivision No. 23. Before Mr. Kog�cowski builds, he has to get a certiticate of survey. Acting Chairman Meissner asked if it was the intention to make three building sites. Mr. Kop�owski answered "�res". Mr. Engdahl asked if Mr. Koprowski was the sole owner of the ].and. The answer was there was another property owner. Mr. Meissner said that, according to the drawing, he would be ending up with three different dimensions of the lots. Mr. Koprowski said he didn't know how he should change it. Plats & Subs Str & Util Mtg - August 3Q, 1972 Page 2 I The driveway �as discussed. Both parties could use the same driveway dispensing with two driveways in the front yard. The present driveway is not wider than 8 feet. Mr. Koprowski asked how close to the neighbor's lot line could the driveway be. He was told 3 feet. Mr. Clark informed Mr. Koprowski that the City does not record the lot split -- he would have to go to Anoka County and do that. The City d�es record the right of ways. MOTION by Engdahl, seconded by Forster, that the Plats & Subdivisions- Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission approval of the Lot Split, L.S. #72-07, by John Koprowski, of Lot 13, Auditor's Sub- division No. 23, to be split into three separate building sites. The first building site is the physical split East of Riverview Terrace. The next portion to be what remains to the West and that said portion West of Riverview Terrace be split into two building sites. The first be 120 feet and the second being the remaining Westerly part with a 15 foot easement for driveway purposes on the Southerly side of the most Easterly 1ot. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 2. PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. 4�72-05, MEADOW RUN ADDITION, BY FIV$ SANDS, INC.: Generally located South of 79th Way, East of East River Road, West of the railroad tracks and North of 77th Way. Mr. Richard Fudali was present. Mr. Clark directed attention to the preliminary plat submitted by Five Sands two years ago which showed an attempt was made to divide the property so that each building would have a 1ot. The Planning Commission denied the request because they felt the lots were too small for the tyge of buildings p�anned (some lots were and some were not); it had some lots without public access; if platted now the City would lose what corltrol it had over the complex. The request for platting went to Council, and during the time it was considered, Mr. Fudali asked it be discontinued until he got the plans up to date. Since that time, he has gone to the Bqard of Appeals and got variances to reduce the lot area required for 295 living units in five separate buildings from 737,500 square feet to 700�564 square feet to allow construction of the Sth building of the apartment �omplex". Mr. Clark continued that the new plat is divided into four lots. There are buildings on Lot 2 and Lot 3. Al1 the new lot� do have access to the public right of way. This access is not necessarily where they are going to have access to each apartment, but do have some street fronta�e so that they can have access without easement to the publiC right of way. Regarding the creek on the South, the consult�.ng engineer is computing some ponding areas to determine whether or not mor� easement is necessary. He stated the four reasons for denial of the have now been corrected. That of the lots being by variances granted by the Board of Appeals and. without public access has been taken care oi. If lose control over the old projecti is no longer v �revious preliminary plat �o small has been.corrected >uncil. Creation of lots ,latted, the City would Lid as on the new project, Plats & Subs.-Str. & 2 Page 3 three huildings are 100% �ompleted, one more near cc�mpletion, the recreation building is well on its way, and only one building �s left to be started. Mr. Fudal.i said that he has received all feasil�ility reports and studies on the last building. This will definitely start i� the spring. Mr. Clark asked if Mr. Fudali had some kind ofleasements for the common entran ces. Mr. Fudali answered that there are private easgments crisscrossing the buildings. The perimeter road that goes al.l around'Ithe property is around the rest of the pxoperty. They are trying to limitlthe ingress and egress to two points. The answer to that �zas private ease�nents. Mr. Clark asked if the recreation building is lot platted as an Outlot, how will it be described? � Mr. Fudali said he was nat describing it at th'�s moment. One of the Council said it would be a landlocked building. He�would receive one tax statement for two buildings plus the recreation building. One tax statement on Lo t 2 . . '! Mr. Clark said usually an Outlat is considered as some sort.of a freak. Did he have any reason for it not being an Outlot? Mr. Fudali said that it did not make a.ny differenEe to him. Every building has the right to-use the recreation buildi�ng and the description now would.be metes and bounds. He agreed an Outlot wo�ld be the easiest to des crib e. The Rec.building could be described_as located on Outlot "A". Mr. Clark referred to the Northeast corner of the plat which showed the dedication to the City for a cul de sac if 79th Way were not extended to the East. Mr. Fudali referred to the drop off at the So�athern portion of the plat. He said that they pushed both buil.dings North as f�r as they could and put in some underground storm sewer. The City and Fiv� Sands have been coordina- ting on this problem. He did not want them to get into the Barry Blower situation. Mr. Meissner felt the preliminary plat would be making something that was easy to describe as all the buildings are in. Mr. French said he drove through and around the buildings and was quite impressed with the comglex. The buildings were veXy nice lo'oking. MOTION by French, seconded by Forster, that the Plats & Subdivisions- Streets & Utilities Subcommittee r�commend to the �lanning Commission that the proposed Prelirainary Plat, Meadow Run Addition,, P.S. #72-05, by Five Sands, Inc. be approved with the stipulation that the dra;inage easement along the South line may have to be made larger. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanirr�usly. Plats & Subs Str & Util Mtg - August 30, 1972 Page 4 3. PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT P.S. ��72-04 BY MRS. FLORENCE SWANSON: Generally lying South of Ironton Street and West of Ashton Avenue. No one was present for the petition. Mr. Clark explained that five lots were proposed with two lots facing Irontan being-80 f eet wide. From the standpoint of area of the lots, they will meet the 9,000 square foot requirement. The corner lot will also meet the minimum requirement. The street along the West side is paved and the utilities are i.n. Ashton Avenue is just a dirt street. The property South of here was recently purchased by the City for a park. The only problem is that part of the land (approximately 50 feet abutting Ashton Avenue) i� zoned Light Industrial, the rest is zoned R-1. With the park at the South, that area becames P-Park Land. The zoning should be changed. It might be possible to change by mutual agreement. The buildings to the West are residental. Since the area that is zoned M-1 is the rear yard, the petitioner should be asked to put some sort of planting screen up. We can't ask the industrial people to come across the street and put up a screen. The front of the houses will be on the cul de sac. Mr. Clark continued that there was nothing wrong with a plat providing their own screen. He did not think they would necessarily want to require a fence. Mrs. Swanson is asking for one building permit for a model home. She is placing that house on Lot l, fronting on Ironton Street, with a detached garage. MOTION by French, seconded by Engdahl, that the Plats & Subdivisions- Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission ' approval af the Pre2iminary Plat, P.S. #72-04, by Mrs. Florence Swanson, with the stipulation that Lots 1 and 2 be each SO feet, that the portion of the plat zoned M-1 be rezoned to R-1, that a green living strip be planted along the Easterly side bordering Ashton Avenue at the time of the building. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. French stated that the neighborhood is quite nice. Mr. Clarlt added that Mrs. Swanson plans building modular houses. This type of house will have a low roof pr.ofila and are:fairly 1ow priced homes. 4. RE UEST FOR PERMISSION TO PUT A FENCE ACROSS AN EASEMENT BY ROBERT AMBORN: Easement next to Lot l, Block 4, City View Addition. No one was present to discus"s the request. Mr. Clark said it was felt that something should be done so that the residents will know whether the 33 foot easement is a street, walkway or vacate it. Plats & Subs Str & Util Mtg - Au�ust 30, 1972 Page 5 Mr. French said he did not think he would like to see the street open because the people would still have the same problem and probably compounded somewhat. Acting Chairman Meissner said he felt whatever was done should go South to 57th Avenue. The Subcommittee did not think a fence would be the answer. They felt a walkway would not satisfy the petitioner. Once a foot path was established, it would be used. Mr. French wondered if it didn't boil down to either a walkway or vacate it. Mr. Clark said another problem is that 58th Avenue does not go over to 7th Street. Mr. French said the easement between 57th Place and 57� Avenue was mowed �nd iaoked go�d,.but.the one to the South between 57th Avenue and 57th Place was not as well maintained. Mr. Clark said that the sewer was in the easement on the block to the South, but it was not in the North block. Mr. Meissner as�ed what the City's policy of someone putting "private" on public land was. Mr. Clark answered that they have done it. In this case, the easement should be either open or vacated. If it were vacated, the adjacent property owners would have to pick up their share of the tax levy. The Subcommittee felt they would like a little more time to study the request and asked that owners adjacent to the easement be sent notices of the meeting and asked to attend, including the people in the block to the South. MOTION by French, seconded by Forster, that the Plats & Subdivisions- Streets & Utilities Subcommittee table the request for a fence across the right of way between 57th Place and 5712 Avenue to the next meeting and that notices be sent to the people adjacent to the right of way and also the right of way to the lot immediately South be invited to the next meeting of this Subcommittee. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by French, seconded by Engdahl, that the Suhcommittee meeting be adjourned at 9:30 P.M. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. c �Iigspect 11� ubmitted � Haze 0'Brian Recording Secretary