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07/19/1965 - 00027276i',70DU -',Y FOU'SING ATiI) I'Lw,, "IN:v - :;ti1.Y 5, l9r,`,5 0 The meeting bras caviled to order at NOD P „P..,,, by C.`zai saran llerrkr. . ROLL GALA Present: Chairman Richard Herder, Cormiasioners Paul Barrow, Robert Kendall, John Meyer and Lois Mulllz and Executive Director Allan Anderson. Visitorsx Reverend Gerald Keafc, Planning Commission Ghaiv- man Kenneth Kray.ik, Robert Ducklxaa , Richard Viller;, Art Gneiser, Clarence, Graves, Eugene Graves, Dana Jackson, Fr. and Mrs. Ranks Sotmrr - Jerry W, Pirdewi.11 and James J. Petria (Phillips Gil Company), Attornioy James Gibbs and Attorney Virgil Herrick. Absent: None. APPROVAL OF t0 NUT88 - PIEI 71EG OF JULY '. 196,o The following corrections were mace, In the July p, 1965 yrlinutes: Page3 2, Ad paragraph: The second sentence in this paragraph 0 to be omitted. Page 2, 4th paragraph, 7th sentence: This sentence is 0 oe chouged to read, "Souse of the reasons for renewal mJghw bee elracuaiting peopl,) during the disaster period, poor utilities, poor play areas, poor roads, etc..” Motion by Mr. Rarro , seconded by P'Y Kendall, to approv'�-a the - nizietas of the July 9, 1965 meeting, as correctma"a. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, said motion carried unanimously, APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MEETING OF JULY lr�a.. 1965. The following correction was mach, to the minutes for Ja.N 14, 1160, Pa, 1, ander the heading, B51L ING }ERVIT flEQUEBT - LEONARD 'n ; &L, lot paragraphs The following sentence is to be inserted between the 5th and 6th sentences: A discussion between who Commission and Mi . Weigel followed and it was pointed out that the $1,125 per nonth loss of rental income, as stated by Mr. Weigel, coulee ery possibly be subsk,+.nWally less after considering such things as rettr^n:ont of prun €°iple, rocuvine of utility payments, etc,.. Motion by Mr. Kendall, seconded Ur tc.•. Meyers to approv:. dia rdirrjstes of the July 114, 1965 meeting, as aorrzc' ew+ Upon a voice v€r Wv, 0`.')ern being no nays, said motion carried unanimvrasa,;-,. CCI- T'RRICLTIONS fCOUNGIL, -- WFS i_� ?'3C`01 QTY 08PEC:' TO Ai'i.a,AISPII 1, + +ISJEt _ _ L__ —..., The Authority agreed to raview t !e , it€ v, kind discuss i at ac later date. (,L'F:1.0 i�:.i 11::9'�iJou�i �i- °O'Jd`G.%�,,7 I,.�✓ar;2 i): ;S'a1 .5^. 'zi �z �:C _.'Gi:`n .iF a�t'i lis.��5:_, VILTJ , i Ghainnan Herder read a 3etLor datod li_a: y 16 -1965 frogs MtAorn.ey ,'jman Smith, in regain' to this matter. It was agn-ed thar, a cosy of this letter should he made a part of these minutes, 2o.; stu6,Ir T.nd future discussion, COMSIDERATION I F RESOLTMOTI NO, FFRA 1G65 -7 - ;MGEL PROPERTYs Chairman Herder read the above menbiorced resoiu'ticno I;otion by Mr, Kendall, seconded by Piro Barra*.,, to adopt Resolu*rrlon Hoe FHNA 1965 °7 ° rev Ueigel Building Pery-rit Requests. Up= a voJoe vote, there being no nays, said motion carried unanimously. COIyI NICATIONS - FRIDLEY -F MT LIGIITERS: Chairman Herder read a letter received from tors, R. E„ T�etea7ft The letter was filed for consideration at it future date, COMMUNIGATIONS --BUILDING FEILMIT %CnLMST (M., YZICNARD PILL s.)s Mr. Miller explained that his propartF (a dwelling which he ren-�,eci out) at 339 u 57th Place had been damaged apj oldnmatelY- 30% by the tor- nado, and that he has requested a Bui3d'Gng Kermit to out it Haack into usable condition. He further explained that it is a 25 ;year old two bed- room house with living room, kitchen and bath w-I tip about an 800 squars foot area; also, that the value of the hmm bofom the tornado &as approxi- mately $8,000 to $9,000. He further explained, that his original pia.i, when he bought the house, was to hold aaz.d property until such time that he was able to build a sizeable apartment building (7-12 u, i trt), as line zoning at that time was for multiple dwelling„ The zoning, since Lhe, #, has been changed in this area, He stsat(,d that lie war, not awpacially interested in rebuilding, but that he could not afford to leave t'se house unoccupied, Mr, Miller agreed to stay and lister, to the rev'irw of the University Avenue area and tts proposals, PROCEDURES ON BUILDING PERM REQUESTS: Chairman Herder explained, to the, v1sitors, wnaL procedures the Authority has been taking on aacosronasni?r =iitus ±or Budding Permit 0qr ::sfi 'g;, the eligibility problem, and reasons for sew, REVIEW OF UNIVER5ITY AVEI1TLE, AREA - SERVICE ROAN DESIGN z Mr, David Alberts, representative from Hodne and Associeros, sxl, sin , ed the proposals for service roads at the corners of Elississippi and Lh .- versity, 61st and University and 57th end Ur-iversilry, Fie stated that !m Hodas, City Planner, and Farvin Frunecil, City CleS ?c and Trek.. urer, had met with members of the Highway Dapaet -, a:4t on thi:, proposed %r^eatm n f'or service roads, The, Highway Depertxent hel :vgrLed that thie, ,% -Lghx bar a desireable objective, in viow of the prrrulEgrca that they ar�1 havirg �1+ other parts of the Twin Citieo, They Mmr, lso strLted that '040 des'ZrcVble distance from the centerline of Vnivzral r7,; Avis nae to the cant, rl:Lno c;3' 'uns proposed service roads could be appro match• 300 tees,, becsvua;e of ;a possibility of a sequence of zemrphon4,,� TI): Hi- gbvrey Departwiont alt X2_1 REP` thou this type of arrangcrrent could ba. lwxd eo0d dedicated as a right-of-way (land trar,m), 11141 T116huay Dep;axi,rnr.Vt has agreed to prepare preliminary design ;-I�o ,chcs altd, sweet with ',,ie Auts:iri­ ty on ;'ednesday, July 21, 1965 at 8s0't 'Afi, The following were soms of the questions asked and comments madva: It was stated that the ['ighway Department would delay construction on corners proposed for this type of service road and would make tem- porary improvements until a definite docisior is made, Nr, treyer pointed out that the dssi.red 300 .foot figura i4 the Highway- Departments figure,,, and not that of the Authority. He also in- quired about the scale of the proposed ser,,,dca roads, as shown on the preliminary design sketch, Mr, Alberts explained that the scale: showed approximately 250 to 275 feet. In regard to a possible service srs:ti,,)n at the S.F. corner of 57th and University (Phillips), Nr. James Gibbr inquired if cusxowners would have to enter the station from the sid: roads adjacent to the proposed island, !Is inquired about the depth of U)is section, as shown on the preliminary design plan, I6r, Alberts explained that the side roads erould be access roads and that a business proposed for this corner island would perhaps better be built and maintained as a roux -sided structure, as an exposed facility; also, that the area as shown is approx?1 nxtely 150 fee., wide and 125 feet deep, Father Keefe from St, 6Ui11iaaes 1611wah, appeared to voice his eor:cern with the proposed service road. at 61st and University, in regard to rs proposed school. and loss of parking space facill.ties, Fatber Keefe t3e�reea that he would make the plans for the proposed school 'available to tv Authority, so that the Highway Dopar,&imnt could study them for conrsidera- tion before Wednesday night's meeting, The Authority agreed to work, out this problem as quickl%r as possible. It was pointed out that there would be only kwo east -vest rrosssyoadrj on University Avenue between Mississippi. Street and Highvray No, 1010 W 57th Avenue and 61st Avenue, Mr. Clarence Graves explained that they are selling their property on the N.E. corner of 57th Avenue, and asked If tho proposed roaad wor,:Ld rM immediately behind the presoni ly zoned c:omriercial property or if at -4)rso ld go beyond that into residential propo ty. Mr. Alberts stated that it would be reasonable to assuAn that t, would be-adjacent to the commercial prcpo -,rt . Mr. Gibbs, representing the Schure , axrlai.reed that flYiill_ os hs;vn an op£ion to buy the Sehurr property on wse S „ia, comer of >7txe an c: j i3k'i l =r•q city, which is approximately 132 fee', :n doptli; and that 5f the pro,.�aas corner service roads were to require ? greater depth Vmt this,, th ;? pre• - pe: iy might been -e valuelosr? to Millt -po as they mould hays d,o puk�chresrs more lard, �7r'T =, Sa` ^F17 Yr. Alberts replted that lip was ti«: Fi €tiwo� beparWlirint avovud take al? these tbings into cansiderats::r,, 11r. nirdewill,, Engineer for Phill,'_To„ nctu:.red iC the pr�pozud service road intersection on 57th woulo 11ewnn. ,ivaal liFlita, Mr, Alberts replied that the corner is rald possib4r have a conven- tional stop sign. Mr, Meyer inquired if the Phillips Company wroaild feel this seotion was undesireable if the corner island were to be 100 feet. tSr. Urdewill replied that It would create a piece of property ",hat would not be controllable. Mr, Meyer asked if Phillips would object if v:ore property were t:ade available. 1'r. Birdewill stated that this could 'hurt the p-r. ^ope&ty snd I,, would be economically unfeasible to develop a service station with frnur c6ctoa, as it would not be practical. Also,. that they felt University Avenu,a and highway No. 694 (Highway No. 100) would bej3x the .auxin streams of tral'fio for such a proposed station. Mr, Meyer suggested that the Phil -Ups Company reiterate their ideas, the discussions of the evening and parae•;lisatior. plane, etc.H to the liigh- way Department for further discussion o-a Wednesday evening. Mr. Craves stated that :rie thought the proposed corner service rwadFs were feasible and felt that their prospeotih,o buyers would agree. Triv asked fir. Alberts if he would convey their thinkixig and discussions to than Highway Department also, Y,r, Alberts replied that he would„ Mr. Petrie, representative from P.7yllips, stated that his compm-v would prefer the service road left as originally planned by the 14igjhala4r Department,, but stated that tliay did not sal.y they would get out if it were changed. It would have to be racrviluated. Fir. Gibbs explained that the Schirvs have at. optdon to 'ony the Bon - nett property (Auto Body Shop propert;i- a,rd tkia:. ;paid option w_'Ul Wgpire on July 26, 1965. The Seburrs have rei. -3cia I,-, believe that P:r., Borano3 ,t will no-* renew said option, It was pointed out that an agreuni ote6 had besrtn made,, by all part..,as concerned,, that the Authority xould make wwer;r effort possible to a recommendation on same before the City Council by August Z;, 19650 Firs, 9ehurr asked if the Aut1xr- ii vivuLd try to reach z: decision be- fore July 26th. Chairran Herder replied that the: lithoritj 4,ould try :,n every asy tc cooperate, Mr. Alberts suggested that the Pnallxps C',a;pany convey, iheir ode €s to Mr. Tom iiodna; also, that they ra gYt .,ve: omr thought as It oar they mig3tw adapt to the proposed plan, Rr.Y'; t I 'F > i L1?,. TY ,a_rahlM -'IMP ;1,, O. Fir. Alberts reviewed the progosale !a tbo diffo.ront sections r�£ +lit, preliminary hriversity Ave,iue iedevelo_ rcyn n, Desitn ?'eat . fIe t5J X07 IL sI • three architectural drawing's shooing eyox,p'u.s of k,o nl nose degiZ t q to Ai Bard to the proposed use in -dais sectio:i. i!v^ exvlaained that ,A tow&iour� is a medium density unit of family type character, icually 11� to 2 high frith multiple bedrooms, separate be se +a en Fs, aepara.ta utilities and separate front and rear doors. Units could be separately owned or coned be rental property, Typical unit values range f-toom "$15,000 to $30,000 per unit. It was pointed out that a decision had riot been made as to whetiar.r or not this section would be included ire the renewal area. It was de =- cided that this section must be considered in the overall picture, either for inclusion in the renewal area or fov suggested best possible zoning, use. Yrs. Fullin asked Mr. Alberts to explain condominiums, 3r. Alberts replied that condominium is an ownership device uses: to rive actual ownership to a portion of a development which probably in- volves a number of units. `These units are parceled off as shares in a cooperative ownership. Because it is dcrc,elope4 as a r,,oderate density u..dt, there are things in common that cannot be split up, such as ,baring of foundation, heat, ,bards, etc.,. A person 'an actually own a unit and it is eligible for homestead exemption. & person can min undivided intepest in what is held in common. This is a ls=7,al de;"w-iceo 3n cooperatives arart. -- ments, resident- owners are not eligible for homestead exemption. 40 Mrs. I:ullin inquired if this area o-,as largos enough to lend itsolr to a combination of townhouses and apartments, Y,r. Alberts replied that it ,night possibly lend itself 'co this+ use. Mr. Meyer inquired about the upkeep and appearance of townhouses, in the next five years, as compared to apartment rentals for the same perxnd. Yr. Alberts explained that townhouses are fait -ly new, aa-ad that ilre facts of upkeep had not been extablisher`„ lie recommended the possibility of stage development, and change of use if it is not working out,, The Authority discussed the advantages and disadvantages of town- houses, apartments, residentia3 and cormiercial for this are,, Mr. Barrow pointed out that between 6tb and 61st. Avenue;, there are approximately 37 lots that are 40 to 50 feet wide, and 5nquirad about how much frontage would be ideal for each unit of a townhouse,, Mr. Alberts replied that if lined up in rows, eacl- unit with full width street frontage, the desiresble mi eeimtnt would br; on 113 tl- 25 d'oot width per unit.. Mr. Darrow pointed out the possib W c'ragurs the this p.- vposfj%1 ro: j_ dential area might pose to children livi;e is clusce to a busy hagh.Bay„ Yr. Graves pointed out that the Auz1iorj.ty( could, pa�3sf'.3y res:I,a r,e fences to alleviate this danger, vb;n say :.ing up st,andards for the use of this area, _5_ Hz VTA,a3 ZV i0T 'OFFITE PxM AVLNUES (continued)s Mr, Alberts felt the matter of .fnnvt,�:k ohcmil(i L�, presented to t1 , Highway Department, as it could possibly .)e one of Chei r�.�u.iresneirts. The Authority agreed, The consensus of opinion of the fir,t'noawty fias that this strip ol� land on University Avenue, between 60t1i and 57th Avenues, is nest Bruited for residential. Some of the reasons for arriv9n2 at this ccnc,lueviz are: 1. There is not sufficient room for a butler zone, to warrant commercial zoning, 2. A srcall commercial section in this area would tend to draw attention from the main City Center area, 3, The width of the strip is iradec;uaua to provide for parking and setbacks for a commercial area, 4. The neighborhood is essentially residential, and commercial would take away from the neighborhood Image, H!L,S C:U "iTL:ITIG AGRTMA AIM C' MY30T C.0 The Authority discussed these proposed tiles Notion by Mr. Kendall, seconded by Mr. harrow, that these praoosad rules be adopted as working procedures uad general guide line;;. upon a voice voto, there being no nays, motion carried unanimously, RGDnVELOPENT PROJECT GRANTS: Mr, Herder read the telegrams and 3cetters no;if,�ring the City of ?ridU ley of the redevelopment project grants, and discussed the terms zid ,Won.. ditions and budgets, contained in theso. It was agreed that this matter would be discussed with Mr. BinfctM on uednesday, July 21, 1965, NEXT V1 TIHG DATEt The next meeting of the Authority will be held on ''ednesda,y, July 21, 1965 at BOO P.M,, in the Madsen Bui.ldi,,ag, ADJOURNMENTt Motion by Mr. Kendall, seconded by Tars. Ttillin, to adjorirn the mraet- ing at 12:00 P.M. Upon a voice vote, therre being no .rays, said Motion carried unanimously., Respect?ully subodtted� Fn'dl4ay flravitng -6- 3,orlwjt .opsar- t Axtiha, -;ty 0 HALL, SIMITH, MIOLITNID, JUST%H, FORF,T.3 IQU AND FL,Ct7'r Attorneys a3 X,7 Douglas Hall ill Produce Fsanit ilui'tding Wyman Smith Mi.nneepolis, Xinneoota. ;s+uO„t George Hedlund July 1.6, 1965 339-11481 Thomas G. Forsberg Offices in. Henry F. Feikems Osseo Ronald L. Haskvitz Coon Rapido Fr w-o'rey Fridley Housing and Redevelopment Authority Attention %:r, Richard herder, Chairman 156 - 63 i -ray mortbeast Fridley 21, Minnesota Dear Dicks, At the meeting of July 14, 1965, 1 was asked for uhather or not an appraiser vzy consider loss of multiple dwelling in determining the valuo .which property owner, I have re- checked the Minnesota Law, both on condemnation, and have conferred with Saint Paul Authority and the Minneapolis question would be "no ", a written opinion as to income of a 40% damaged should be paid to Uio Statutes and Court decisions the respective attorneys for the Autvlority, The anzwor to tllt Appraisers use various methods in deternining market value of proper',„ One method is income approach; another method is reproduction cost donpre- ciated. Each of these methods; to some dogree, would involve considera- tion of an eight -plea multiple dwelling, two years of age, acid hl dh V ,as fully occupied on May 1, 1965, Since thc, 40% dawunee iro the &tracturr;, by reason of the tornado: of NLrj &, 19652 was not replaced, it would bow my view that the appraisers would considor on eithryv of tlresF, methods the income and the structure as it existed on May 1, 2Q 5„ They could, reasonably conclude that with the expenclItu;e of $ "G,,COrk.00 that the eight -plex would be put back in the sale condition oz it was nr Fay 5 1955, I am advised that the U.R.A, is moat critical of the payment of interest. They insist that payments be zrr da by the Authority on awa; cis promptly, and are most critical if intemat has �,o be picked etp for c:van an additional week. I have been warned that I should advise the Authority to spccifica.li.y refrain from committing themse3.t,•ea to Lw -io payment of inhere t or the payment of rental losses4 Apparently thes� is a -aide variation in si Im— tionz, and the Authority should be most cRra.ful about sotting precede)IL„ T.aas two appraisers required are appointed by the authority, Otbaaglh in Saint Paul the H *11,F,A, has alka;m n;tained the right to sTloct 'tbiF, second one, [l 10 C J x -2t. Fridley Housing and Redevelopment Authority July 16, 1965 After the appraisals are in and the project plan has been adopted and approved, it apparently is the custom to stipulate Tmith property* owmars as to the date of taking, even though the data is prior to the actual commencement of the proceedings in Comm, ;.ormaliy, the date of tatting is the date +Then the Judge signs the Order Appointing Comrissionem, It is that Order that finds that the condomnation is a valid proceeding„ Under Minnesota Law. the attorneys in any suet proceeding can stipulate as to the date of taking to be used and iF may +nary from the statutoX7 date. Also, apparently there la a custom ;wen things have jelled and move along, for the Authority to take an option for the purchase of the property at a certain price. This is a w lid method under Mdrmosota Lr-w. WS /rac Yours truly, 1,;Jmayl Smith