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PL 06/17/1970 - 30177,'"t � �� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Jux� i�, 1970 PAGE ?_ The meeting was called to order by Chaixman Erickson at 8:00 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Minish, Members Absent: None Others Present: Darrel Harris, Erickson, Schmedeke, Fitzpatrick Clark, Engineering Assistant APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE 3 1970 Mr. Schmedeke asked that the following correction be made: On Page 7, 5th paragraph, the 3rd sentence shoulcl read "He noticed the lot was not the proper size anc� does not fit the minimum of 25,000 square feet." MOTION by Schmedeke� seconded by Harris, that the Planning Commission Minutes of June 3, 1970 be approved as corrected above. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGIV CONTROL MIIQUTES: JUNE 4 1970 MOTION by Harris, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Commission receive the minutes of the Building 5tandards-Desiqn Control meeting of June 4, 1970. Upon a voice vote, a1.Z vo�ting aye, the motion carried unanimously. REGZIVE BOARD OF APPEAI,S MINUTES : J�JNE 9 1970 MOTION by Minish, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Planning Corrmuission z'eceive the minutes of the Board 'of Appeals meeting of June 9, Z970. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimousZy. ORDER OF AGENDA• Because Item 1 and Item 3 were requests by the same petitioner, Chairman Erickson suggested Item 3 be moved up to be considered following Item l. ' 1. PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP �70-05 CPL. JAMES L. ROBINSON BY G. D. GIANCOLA, HIS ATTORNEY: To construct a service station on Lots 1 thru 6, Lot 9, North 68 feet of Lot 20, Central Avenue Addition. Chairman Erickson read the Public Hearing Notice. Due to the absence of Mr. Giancola, Mr. Robert Guzy, Attorney, represented the petitioner, and Mr. Ralph Sundberg, Real Estate representative and Mr. J.L. Winters, Construction representative of Skelly Oil Co. were also in attendance. � Planning Commission Meetin - June 17, 1970 p8�e Z Mr. Guzy stated the service station would be the rustic design. There is a plan for the landscaping °'in the mill" and would be ready for the Council. Basically, the building will be on the West side of the property with two en- trances off Old Central and one off 73rd Avenue. �ao pump islands are plan�ed East of the building with a future island North of the building. The station would be three bay with parking along the South and West. The buffer areas are open ta recourmendation of the City. The Ground Plan, Sheet No. A, dated March 3, 1970, was shown to the Co�nis- sion. The station would not be a 24 hour station, nor would it be in the towing business. Therefore there would not be cars parked outside for long periods of time. Regarding signs, Darrel Clark said the sign ordinance is pretty restrictive, and is ffiuch easier to enforce on new stations. Mr. Schmedeke a�ked if Skelly Oil would consider putting evergreens along the blacictop area West of the building. Mro Sundberg �sid they would mention it to the people planning the landsca.ping. Referring to the intersection at 73rd and Central Avenues, the Engineering Assistant said recently it was widened at the intersection and the City has 100 feet of right of way on Central Avenue so that there is plenty of room to work with. The Skelly people are working with the City Engineer on the 73rd �'` Avenue right of way. .y- MOTYON by Fitzpatrick, seconded by Minish, that the Planninq Commission close the.Public Hearing for the Special Use Permit, 5P #70-05, Cp1. James L. Robinson by G. D. Giancola to construct a service station on Lots 1 through 6, Lot 9, North 68 feet of Lot 20, Central Avenue Addition. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. When Lot 20, Central Avenue Addition, was split, it was stipulated that the remainin� part of Lot 20 would stay with Lots 7 and 8, and also the peti- tioner was asked to get a petition for the vacation of Brook Street. Referring to the George Walquist petition for a similar split, Council asked the petitioner to plat the remaining piece. In the case of Central Avenue Addition, the property is torrenso The purpose of the vacation of Brook Street was to give approxi- mately 90 foot frontage on Central Avenue. 1'he present owners are conaidering this as one unit as far as sale or development, but the Commission was con- cerned with the problem if it could not be sold in one piece. The two lots (7 and 8) and the 30 foot vacation, makes an area of 16,500 square feet which is still a pretty small piece fox an M-1 (light industrial). The North lots, facing 73rd Avenue, are zoned C-1 and the remaining South lots are M-1 (light industrial). A suggestion w�s made to tie the remaining property together, but because of the two types of zoning, it was felt the land could not remain as one lot. Mr. Guzy asked how long it would take for a Registered Land Survey and was told about 90 days. The Skelly people said they could not wait that long, '� as theq planned to start building this summer. Mr. Guzq did not believe it ° would be possible for the awner of the land to sell the lots 7 and 8 aad leave the South Half of Lot 20 and the proposed vacated 30 feet to go back to taxeis as this is valuable industri�l land. � Plannin�_ Commission Meetin - June 17 �1970 Pa�te 3 The Coimnission felt that the status of Lot 20 should be taken care of with the petition for the vacation of Brook Street as it was more or less related to it. MOTION by Minish, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the PZar:ning Commission recommend to Council granting of the Special Use Permit, SP #70-05, by CpZ. James L. Robinson by G. D. Giancola, his attorney, to construct a service station on Lots .Z through 6, Lot 9, and the North 68 feet of Lot 20, Central Avenue Addition. Upon a voice vote, Harris abstaining because Mr. Guzy is his attorney,.Erickson abstaining because of conflict of interest, Schmedeke, Minish and Fitzpatricic voting aye, the motion carried. 2. VACATION REQUEST: SAV ��70-04, CPL. JAMES L. ROBINSON BY G. D GIANCOLA, HIS ATTORNEY: Vacation of Brook Street -- immediately South and abutting Central Avenue Addition. Chairman Erickson commented that apparently this is a logical vacation, but there is a question of Lot 20 being landlocked at thia point, and he felt it should be tied together with Lota 7 and 8 with a Registered Land Survey as a condition of the vacation. MOTION by Fitzpatrick, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of the vacation request, SAV �170-04, Cp1. Jar►�s L. Robinson by G. D. Giancola, his Attorney, of Brook Street, and that it be ^ granted with the stipulation that Lots 7 and 8 and the South galf of Lot 20, Central Avenue Addition, be platted as a Registered Land Survey with the area requi.rement of the o1d zoning code to be applied. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried �animously. 3. COAITINUED: REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP �70-03, EDWARD CHIES: To construct houaing for the elderly and senior citizens on Lots 6 thru 12, 15 thru 20, Meadowmoor Terrace. Public Aearing cloaed. Mr. Art Winters and Mr. Marlo June were present. Mr. Winters reported on the informatioa he had received from HUD: Mainten- ance of grounds -- none; construction -- Fridley Code requirements; occupancy -- this was from the document publiahed by HUD, G4700.1 FHA and under No. 236 Section, Housing for Lower Income Families. Chairman Erickaon reported on the information he and Darrel Clark obtained. Their source of informatio��said that there was no control over how they are re�ted. They can rent to he elderly and othera if they wish. They do have maintenance checks once a year, but they did not state how thorough the check would be. His opinion was that this is really a request for a rezoning to R-3 (general multiple family) and perhaps should be treated as such. If it were a request for elderly houaing, and�there were some controls over it, he would have no objections, except for the lines and layout of the buildings. He added that if the complex can be rented to anybody, which, in fact, it can be, ,� then the request should be treated as a rezoning, and he would object to i�s ' being handled in this manner. r"`�, � � � Planning Com�ission Meeting - June 17, 1970 Pa�e 4 Chairman Erickson explained that HUD No. 236 is a special section of FHA wherein the government will subsidize certain things by direct payment. The Federal government requires that a person living in a financed building by HUD pay 25% of his income, and would subsidize a$100.00 a month rental unit for anybody with a low income. The government encourages the mixture of old people with qounger people. They can't rent to people with higher incomea. If, in the future, the apartments were not rented to low income people, this would be an apartment complex. Mr. Winters said that was not the intent of the petitioner. Mr. Marlo June said he had some thoughts on this problem. The suburbs are getting a lot of pressure from the State and Federal government to build housing for the low income and elderly groups. The State Government has the right to take away our zoning ability or prero�ative and tell us what to do and they could take it away any time. All the commuaiities are going to have to start looking into it. He hoped this would be along the line to help the co�unity without going to the State. Mr. Winters read excerpts from FH 4700.1 Digest of Insurable Loans and Summaries of other Federal Housing Administration Program, March 1970 -- a Hud Guide. He said if the City of Fridley accepts the request, under the HUD program, the City would have to pass a resolution "Under the Workable Program". About two or three months ago, the City of Hopkins passed such a reaolution and he would try to get a copy of it. Mr. Schmedeke wondered if the complex could get 40 familiea to come out here and if the people would be interested in concrete floors and electricitq heating. Mr. June volunteered that the floors are carpeted. Chairman Erickson said the Planning Commission is being asked to create a density equal to R-3 density and intended for the elderly but not necessarily knowing it will be rented to the elderly. Mr. June said the government stipulated that no one can live there with more than one child. The Commission wished more time to study the possibility of making stipula- tions to restrict the houses to the elderly only; how difficult it would be to enforce the stipulation; and whether or not the City would have to draw up an ordinance. MOTION by Harris, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Planning Commission con- tinue to July 8, 1970 the request for a Special Use Permit, SP #70-03, by Edward Chies to construct housing for the elderly and senior citi zens on Lots 6 thru 12, 15 thru 20, Meadowmoor Terrace. Upon a voice vote, aZ1 voting �ye, the motion carried unanimously. 4. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. ��70-08, FREDERICK A. SKOG: North 10 feet of Lot 17 to be added to Lot 18, Block 2, Parkview Oaks lst Addition. Mr. Skog was present. Mr. Schmedeke, Chairman of Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Sub- coum�ittee, WhiCh met St 7:00 P.M. previous to the Planning Co�ission meeting, stated the SubCOffi►ittee approved the lot split request. Planning Commission Meetint� - June 17, 1970 Page 5 ^ Mr. Skog explai.ned that he has the opportunity to obtain 10 feet from the North edge of Lot 17 which would give him 10 more feet alongside his garage. The basketball area could then be in the back instead of the front yard. It would not be long before the children would be owning their own cars and this will create a parking place alongside the garage for the extra cars, if he needs it. The bank will be cut back. If his neighbor were to fill this, it would cost him a lot money, and it is quite a distance from his house. His garage was built too close to the line to begin with. The Engineering Ass�stant said that 6 feet of the 10 feet is an utility easement and Mr. Skog does not intend to build a structure on it. MOTION by Harris, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Commission recom- mend approval of the Iot split request, L.S. #70-08, Frederick A. Skoq, to split the North 10 feet from Lot 17 and add to Lot Z8, Block 2, Parkview Oaks 1st Addition. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 5. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. ��`70-09, WENDELL ELLIOTT: South 20 feet of Lot 1, Block 1, Sandhurst Addition deeded to Lot 2. Mrs. Wendell Elliott was present. Mr. Schmedeke explained the Subcammittee heard this request tonight also. � The land involved had been deeded several years ago, but Mr. Elliott continued to pay the special assessments. However, now a road is being built, and unless - the lot split was done legally at the City level, he would be paying the assessments for the new road. The lEngineering Assistant said that thia 20 feet, which was deeded, actually is at grade with the neighbor and below the grade of the Elliott��.awn and it does look logical. Both houses have about the same distance to the new lot line. MOTION by Schmedeke, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Commission recorrmiend approval to the Council of the Lot Split, L.S. #70-09, Wendell E1liott, splitting the South 20 feet of Lot 1, Block 1, Sandhurst Addition and deeding it to Lot Z, B1ock 1, Sandhurst Addition. U�n a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 6. STREET SIGNS IN COLZJNIBIA HEIGHTS: On 40th Avenue between Central Avenue and University Avenue. . Mr. Schmedeke again spoke about the difficulty of seeing the street signs in Fridley at night. The street signs he referred to in Columbia Heights are quite large, and he thought a ai�u of this type should be placed on the main ar�erial streets, such as Mississippi Street, 7th Street, T.H. ��47, etc. If there were new men on an ambulance or fire truck, it would be easier for them to see the signs at night. He did not believe in taking down every sign, but � to gradually replace them. He said the signs in Fridley look good and are easy to read during the day. The Engineering Department was to contact D. W. � �Harstad Co. to inquire about costs. Continued. No action. Planning Commission Meeting - June 17, 1970 ,� ADJOURNMENT : �"� / \ Page 6 There being no further business, Chairman Ericicson adjourned the meeting at 10:20 P.M. 0 Respectfu^ll� s mitted Haze���" %" ` Brian Recording Secretary I �