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PL 08/18/1971 - 31105��� PLANNIIJG COIyIl�IISSION MEETING AUGUST 18, 1971 PAGE 1 The megting was called to order by Acting Chairman Fitzpatrick at 8:05 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Minish, Fitzpatrick, Zeglen Members Absent: Erickson, Schmedeke Others Present: Darrel Clark, Engineering Aseistant APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINZ]TES: �iUGUST 4, 1971 MOTION by Zeqlen, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Coaenission minutes of ,�ugust 4, 1971 be approved. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unan�mously. RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCO1rIlrIITTEE MINUTES: AUGUST 5, 1971 MOTION by Zeglen, seconded bc� Minish, that the Planning Commission receive �he minutes of the Building Standards-Design Contro2 Subconcn.ittee meeting pf %� August 5, 1971. U�n a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: AUGUST 10, 1971 MOTION by Minish, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission receive the m3nutes of the Board.o� Appeals meet.ing of August 10, 1971. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 1. CONTINUED: REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PEBMIT, SP U71-09, BY SOCIAL DYNAMICS, INC., JAMES LEIDICH: Lote 1 and 2, Block 1, Oak Hill Addition - to build and operate a day nureery and learning center under Section 43.051, 3, F, of City Code. Public Searing closed. Miss Jean Shrum and Mr. James Leidich represeated the petitioner. Acting Chairman Fitzpatrick informed the audience that the public hearimg was closed but no recammmendation was made to the Council. The City Attorney was aeked to give an opinion whether or aot the City could permit nursery schools in an R-1 Diatrict provided a special use permit was approved. His answer to the question was in the affirmative. MOTION by lNinish, se�onded by Zeglen, th$t the Planning Co�ission receive the letter from virg3l C. 8errick, City Attorney, dated Aagust 13, 197Z in which he stated the P1ann3ng Co�nission could permit nursery schopls in an R-1 Distr3ct under a Special Use Permit. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion �"' carried tuianimously. �"� �"'1 � �"� Plannin� Commission Meetin� - August 18, 1971 P$ge � i a Mr. Zeglen stated he had driven by the Learning Center in Robbinsdale and he thought 1t was a nice looking building. Mr. �,eidicH e.aid the building in Fridley would be architecturally the same except it would be larger. The lote in Fridley are oa th@ same level as Target. Aarrel Clark added that the ad�oining residents were noX objecting to the use, but had questions about the trespassers on the vacant lots between their houses and the proposed building. He continued the utilities will come dowa from the North, and the petitioner ia prepared to petition Council for them. Mr. M.inish felt the day nursery and learning center was a reasonable use of the property. The question before the Planning Commission was whether or not a day nuxsery would be permissible under R-1 zoning, and that has been anewezed by the City Attorney. The other concern was fencing Lots 1, 2 and 3, but xather �aait to eee if, in spite of the propoaed building, the trespassers coatinued to use Lot 3 to get to Target, the stipulation of fencin� Lot 3 could be made � condition of tihe Special Use Permit., Mr. Clark said tih�t Mr. Herrin- ger, owner of �he property, would have to be contacted, and hopefully, would agree. MpTION by Minish, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission recom- mend approval.of the .�equest for a Special Use Permit, SP #71r09, by Soc�al Dynamics, Inc. to construct and operate a day nursery and learning cente� on Lots 1 and 2, Block 1, Oak Hi11 Addition under Section 45.OS1, 3, F, of the City Code with the cot�dition that the petitioner follow through on the petition for utilities, and th$� the fence be extended across the rear of Lot 3 to pre- vent people cutting across to go to Target. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the r�otion caxxied unanimously. Z. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING REQUEST, ZOA ,1�71-05, REAL ESTATE 10, INC., FRANCIS GIRDLER: Part of Zot 5, Auditor`s Subdivision No. 25, to be rezoned from R-3 (general multiple family dwelling) to CR-1 (general office and limited business). Acting Chairman Fitzpatrick read the Public Heariag Notice. Inasmuch as Mr. Shexidan, the owner, was the only one present, and the applicant, Mr. Girdler, would be late, Chairman Fitzpatrick stated that he would entertain a motion to continue the request until later in the ev�ning. MOTION by Minish, seconded by Zeglen, that the rezoning request, ZOA #71-05, by Real Estate 10, Inc. be tabled until the applicant appears. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 3. PUBLIC HEARTNG: REZONING REQUEST, ZOA �`71-06, DONALD W. REESE: Lot 16, Block 1, Re�rised Auditor s Subdivisioa No. 10, to rezone from R-1 to S-2 (double bungalow). The Public Hearing Notice was read by Chairman F-ttzpatrick. Mr. and Mrs. Donald W. Reese were preseiit. Mr. Reese explained they were purchasing th�.s p=�perty if the rezoning �, � 0 Planning Commission Meetin� - August 18,j 1971 Page 3 went through as they plan to build a double bungalow on the North half of the lot and then later split the lot and construct another double bumgalow on the South half. Phillip J. 0'Loughlin, 5387 Altura Road: Mr. 0'Loughlin said he was speaking for his father. He said they owned the lot directly to the South of Lot 16. He asked Mr. Reese where the buildings would be placed. Mr. Reese said the house on the North half would be facing County Road H, and the bungalow on the South half would face Central Avenue. He said they had not requested s lot split at this time. He said there would be no changes in the elevation of the North half. Mr. 0'Loughlin said they would object to splitting of the lote and the building of two double bungalows. He asked Mr. Reese what type of double bungalow he planned to build. Mr. Reese said there would be a three car garage for each unit, but they had not ordexed plans until the zoning was decided. Mr. Clark said that if the requeat were granted, Mr. Reese would have to have an easement to be served by water from 69th Avenue. Chairman Fitzpatr�ck asked for aXea requirements. Mr. Clark answered that the lot iQ large enough to split. It is more than 20,000 square feet making 10,000 square feet for each double bungalow. The area is sufficient to meet the requirements. Mr. 0'Loughlin said that he would like to see plans of the proposed buildinge. Chairman Fitzpatrick explained that the application is a rezoning request. If the rezoning were approved, they would then be building within the permitted uses. The request will come up again before the Gouncil. " �Ir. Reese said that it is a large lot and they did not feel they could afford the taxes for the whole lot, and that was why they would build on half until they could see their way clear to build another bungalow. Mrs. Reese also added that they are buying the lot, and plan to build a double bungalow on the North end of the lot and theg would be moving in and renting out the other part. They hoped some day, with the taxes on the whole lot beiag hi�h, to split the lot and build a second bungalow, as they did not anticipate being able to pay taxes on the large lot indefinitely. If they didn't split the lot, it would put them in the position where they would have to lower the quality of the construction. To help them out with the financing of the double bungalow, they might have to sell the second lot. They did not plan to change anything on the lot, auch as trees and elevation. The lot adjoining on the East ia on the same level. Mr. 0'Loughlin's lot is qn the South, an.d South of that is Rice Creek. MOTION by Zeglen, se�onded by Minish, that the Planning Co�an.ission close the public hearing of the rezoning request, ZOA 1i71-06, by Dana1'd W. Reese to rezone from R-1 to R-2 (double bungalow) Lot 16, Block 1, Revised Auditor's � Subdivision #10. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, th� motion carried � unanimovsly. Planning Commission Meetin� - Au�us� lSs 1971 Page 4 Mr. Minish said there are single family homes adjoining Lot 16, a park to �\ the South, aingle family across Central Avenue with the exception of Medtronics ' and Onan'� to the North, neither of which would be detrimental to single family homes, and the intention to seek a lot s�lit later on, is not desirable. He would like an explanat�on why xezoning was more desir�ble than a special use permit. MOTION by Minish, �econded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission recom- unend to Council denial of the rezaning request, ZOA #71-06, by DonaZd W. Reese of I�t 16, Block 1, Revised Auditor's Subdivzsion No. 10, to rezone from R-Z (single fa�i.�y dwellings) to R-2 (cTouble bungaZows) because of the number of sin��e famiZy dwelZings in the area, the property is close to a park, and tlae 1ot could be developed under R-Z. Chairman Fitzpatr�.ck said the MOT�ON was open for further discuseion. Mrs. Reese said that when they applied for R-2 zoning, they talked to the people �ho awaed the aeighboring lots. '�'hey told the awners of their intentions and :�elt these peopl� would be at the meeting if they opposed the requeat. On the N�rth is Medtronics and Oaan's. The 0'Loughlin lot is between their p�operty and the park. They did not believe their plaas would det;act from the neighborhood. In the listing of the lot in the local paper, it was stated that the laand �ould be zoaaed R-2. Chairman Fitzpatxick asked how many siagle family residences were in the el.ose �r�a. He was told ni,ne. Then he asked how many were notified. Thres �.., of them were within 300 feet aad were notified. � Mr. Zeglen asked about the lots to the East, Lota 17, 18, 19 and 20. Mr, Clark said these houaes on 69th are older homes and axe aet back about 60 fee� and � little more centrally located on the lot's. The owners have not expressed any idea of s�plitting, and there are no easements on the South end of the lots. They could be landlocked lots. MOTION: Upon a voice vote, a1I voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. REOPENED ITEM 2: ZOA �71-05. REZONING REQUEST, R�AL ESTATE 10, INC FRANCIS GIRDLER. MOTION by Minish, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission reopen the pvbl,ic heaxing of ZOA #71-05, by Rea1 Estate 10, Inc. to rezone from R-3 to CR-1 part of Lot 5, Avditor's Subdivision No. 25. Upon a voice vote, a11 vot.�ng aye, the mqtion carried vnanimously. Because of a conflict of interest, Mr. Minish excused himself from participatiag in the proceedinga. M�r. Girdler explained his firm was buying the property of Mr. Sheridan for their home office on a piece of pro�erty which they feel will enhance the value of the eurrounding propertiea. They plaa to occupy the first floor, pfficea in the basement and second floor for rental. Because theirs is real � eatate businesa, there will be very little traffic as far as the public is con- ceraed other than closing transactione with buyers and sellers and the salesmen. Planning Commission Meetin� - Au�ust 18. 1971 Page 5 ^ Mr. Axt Gearman, White Bear Lake, Minn.: fle said that he owned �he ad�aeent property on the comer. He has been involved with the area for the ls�t four or five years with the.l+�oon Corpoxation attempting to get a 1ot split. fle owns two apartment b uildi�ga right b�hind this parcel. If the whole corner were zoned or developed like it should be, it would be one development. He did not know what the propoaed building would do to the rest of the property, whether it would increase or deerease the valuation. � i�`' Mr. Clark said the apartment houses were built when the Terry Addition waa sti11 active, but the plat was never recorded. Council woul�l like a plat rather than a lot splite The whole area should be platted. �dr. Gearman said that to put CR-1 zoning in the center of what is now R-3 propexty would detract from the whole area. Mxo Girdler said Mr. Gearman's concern is that he would like the property R-3 £or multlple dwellings. An office building of �his eize 'has been in resi- dential co�unities and there were no complaints. Mr. Sheridan s�id that he believed that when this area was originally platted, it weat through and was approved bq Council. It was the intention of the Couacil that the lot would be aplit. Se fouad out now that Lots 3, 4 and S are not split as far as the City records ehow. It was split at the time of the sale and registered with the County. It would seem to him splitting Lots 3, 4 and 5 would be the logical way to proceed. Chairman Fitzpatrick said that request was denied doea not apply to continued of necessitq until the next the question of whether or not the lot aplit the reaoning request. This item will be Planning Commission on September 1, 1971. Gerald (Bill) Iwin, 5605 Sumboldt Avenue So., Mpls.: Se said he has been connected with this property for seven or eight years with the people who tried to record the plat. They had to give it up. Is there sewer and water on the street that goes in front (flillwind)? He was told there is a watermain but no sewer. The petitioner would have to get an easement acros$ Mr. Iwin's pxoperty to get to the sewer on Polk Street. If this rezoning request goes thraugh, Mr. Iwin asked if it would be posaible for th� whole area to be rezoned? It would be detrimental to the residential property. Mr. Sheridan said he believed there was a misunderstanding as this part a£ Lot 5 does not abut any property escept R-3 zonia�. The frontage road is R-3e Mr. Clark added t�iat the Council Minutes of March 6, 1967 do not state specifically the lntent of the motion wherein it asked Mr. Gearmau to plat his piece. 1N�7TION by Zeglen, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Co�nission close the Public 8earing of the rezoning request, ZpA #71-05, Real Estate 10, Inc. to rezone from R-3 to CR-1 part of Lot 5, Auditor's 5ubdivision No. 25. flpon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. �, Plannin� Commisaio� Meeting - August 18, 1971 Page 6 � � 4. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP �i71-10, VIRING CHEVROLET: For New and Used Gar Salee on Parcels 2850, 4350 and 4360, Section 12, per City Code, 45.�01, 3, B in a C-2$ Diatrict. The representatives for the Viking Special Use Permit application were Wyman Smith, Jerry Brady and Kenneth Isaacson. Chairman Fitzpatrick read the public hearing notice. Mro Wym�nn Sm�.th explained that he was before the Planning Commission on behalf of Viking Chevrolet. The Commission was kind enough to rezone the prop��ty on Univereity Avenue last spring. Since then they found out the Co� i4ittee from General Motors would not approve the location. In order to stay in Fri.dley, thia was the one thing he encouraged them to do. The Viking people have sign�d an agreement for the purchase of this property w'here the Edison Some� are. Mr. Toberman, who owaed the Ediaon Homes, i►ae sold the company. Ttiey are going ta vaeate the land and the lease will be terminated. Viking will be able �o make use of the existing building. Jerry Brady and Ken Isaacson have met with the City Engineering �taff. There will have to be some upgrading of the site requirements. Mr. Bradp said the recomanendations of the City Engiaeer for the black- topped area on �he South would be some curb cuts for service areas and clasiag in present blacktop. There would be no structural changes on the outside of the building, but there would be some internally. n MOTION by Minish, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission close th� �blic Neari�g for a Special Use Permi.t, 5P #71-10, Viking Chevrolet, for a New and Used Ca� Sa1es on Parcels 2850, 4.�50 and 4360, Section 12, per City Code 45.101, 3, B in a C-2S District. U�n a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. � w Chairman Fitzpatrick asked about euch details as screening and land- scaping -- how they should be handled at this time. Mr. Clark said the Co� mission could recommend to Council that the Building Standards-Design Control Subcammittee check the plans as long as there is going to be internal structural work. MOTION by Min�sh, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission recom- mend approval to the Council of the request for a Special Use Perau t, SP #71-10, by Viking Chevrolet for New and Used Car Sales on Parcels Z850, 4350 and 4360 in Section 12, as per City Code, 95.101, 3, B in a C-2S District with the stipu�ation that Council refer the request for review by the Building- Standards-Design Control Subcommittee. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the mota.on carried unania�usZy. �, AppRpVE pRELIMINARY PLAN FOR TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT BY ROGER LARSON: The North 813 feet of the East 3/4 of NF3� of Section 13. (69th Avenue at East City Limits.) Chairman F�tzpatrick commented that thi� request has been discusaed for some time. N�ot loag ago the Commisaion had a proposal before them which theq as4ked some attempt be made to increas� the green area� and decrease the pro- portion of building and b�acktop within the whole area. Planning �ommission Meeting - August 18. 1971 Page 7 �Roger �arson� James Wiensch and Frank Reese were present fox the townhouse � development. The improvements in the green areas were noted. Mr. Reese said that attached garages or tuck under garages are better adapted to sloping land-- this land is leve� so that it would be no improvement in this instance. 'lhey now have 60 feet between structures. The sidewalks and doors are basically the same circulation system. Dumpster� will be inside of the building and refuse will be hauled away. There is a forty foot right of way along the East side, which will be deeded over at the time of the building. They are allowing for a future right of way along the West side. Chairman Fitzpatrick esplained that the City will have a slope easement of 160 feet North on Rice Creek and the developers cannot build on it, but can use it for density and the City would retain ownership. Mr. Reese continued that there wi11 be trees a�ound the homes. The homes will be three bedrooms, full bath, full basement, no walkout, have individual furnace �d central air conditioning. Darrel Clark explained that the preliminary plan before the Planning Com- mission becomes th� bas�.s for �he final plan after Council approves it. The Commission now is to approve the arrangement of buildings, density and the units for every 3,000 square feet and accept the layout. � Mr. Zeglen had some doubts about the parking. MOTION by Zeglen, seconc�ed by Minish, that the PZanning Conanission recom- mend approval of the preliminary plan of the Townhouse Development as submitted and presented to the Planning Coa�ission, dated August 18, 1971. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 6. CONFIRM PUBLIC HEARING DATE: REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP ��71-12, HARLAND E. BERRY: To construct a double bungalow on Lots 3 and 4, Block 4, Ostman's Third Addition per City Code, 45.051, 3, D, on September 1, 1971. MOTTON by Minis,h, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission confirm the public hearing date of September 1, I971 of a z�equest for a Special Use Permit, SP #71-12, by Harland E. Berry to construct a double bungalow on Lots 3 and 4, B,Iock 4, Ostman's Third Addition per City Code 45.051, 3, D. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the �cotion carzied unanimously. 7. LOT SPZIT RE UEST: Z.S. �71-09, ING SIVERTS, JR.: Part of Lot C, Registered Land Stirvey No. 3- for building site. Mr. Siverts' request is to split Lot C. Sis home is on the North end. The area of Lqt C is approximately 34,G50 square feet. The Southern portion would be split in such a fashion so as to give the proposed buyer about 20,000 or more aquare feet. � The Cpunty Surveyor, Roland W. Anderson, submitted a statement addressed to Mr. Siverts and the Planning Commission.to inform the:�� that the Mortgage Plannin� Commi�siou Meetin� - Au�ust 18, 1971 Page 8 Loan Survey dated August 17, 1971 would be acceptable in the Anoka County !^` Registrar of Title Office. Mr. Clark explained that when a lot split ia not complicated or involved, it is not necesaary to go to the Plata & Subdivisions Subcommittee. The Chair- m�n of this Committee, Mr. Schmedeke, met with Mr. Siverts. MOTION by Zeglen, seconded by Minish, that the PZanning Commission recom- �na apprpval of the request for a Lot Sp1it, L.S. #71-09, of part of Lot C, Rcgister�d Land Survey No. 3 for a building site as indicated on Mortgage Land Survey by Suburban Engineering, Inc. dated August 17, 1971. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the �otion carried unanimously. �. SET PLTBLIC HEARING DATE: REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP �171-13, DICR'S NORTH STAR: Lota 3, 4, and 5, Block 7, Berlin Additiona To sell recreational trailers per Code 45.101, 3, N. MOTiON by Zeglen, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Co�nission confirm the publ�.c hearing date of September 22, 1971 for the request of a Special Use Peranit, SP #7Z-13, Dick's North Star to seZl recreational trailers as per Code 45a101, 3, N, on Lots 3, 4 and 5, Block 7, Berlin Additioaao Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried vnanimously. � 9. DISCUSSION OF LOW SWAMF LAND NORTH OF 79TIi BETWEEN UNIVERSITY AND BURLING- TON-NORTHERN RAILROAD TRACKS: Chairman Fitzpatrick said that the letter from Mr. Winston Jacobson dated July 18, 1971 regarding thia land came before the Park Commission. Because the amount oE the property involved is large, they f�lt whatever could be done should be by the County Commiasioners in coajunction with the City. The area is too large and expenaive, but it is the kind of tl�ing they would like to preserve for open space. Mr. Jacobson's coacern was that he was afraid the City of Fridley was about to dump Burlington-Northern excavation there. The area is much more wild and populated with wild life than any other piece of property in Fridley. Mr. Clark said that the City would have to give the land owner permission to have fill dumped on the land. The land will be opened up with sewer and water soon. Chairman Fitzpatrick wondered if the City could postpone the land getting fill. Mr. Minish wondered if it would be permissible to make a recommendation now to permit fill to be dumped in that axea while the City contacts the appropriate County Agencies for their recom�endation. In the meantime, the boundary lines should be set. Mx. elark suggested Main Street which runs about 1300 feet West of Univer- sity Avenue and at the East edge of the park. This lan3 is lower than the park �` land and has peaty soil. Council's attention could be !�rought to the fact that �ill,ing this land and developing it would be a los� of wild life preserve. Planning Commission Meetin� - Au�ust 18, 1971 Page 9 � Mr. Minish said he realized this is a late time to bring up the matter, i�' but something should be sent to the County for their permission and a resolu- tion drawn up requesting the pr�servation o£ this land. � � MOTION by Minish, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Coimnission recom- mend to Council that they take action to see that not another fi11 from the Burlington-Northern is allowed to be dumped on the parcel generally North of 79th Avenue between Uni,versity Avenue and the railroad tracks until such time as contact can be atade between proper City Officials and County Boar$ to consider what is apropos of preservation %r a Fridley Pa�k. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanir�usly. 10. 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