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PL 11/22/1972 - 30361i� � PLANNING COl+'Il�?ISSION MEETING CITX OF �RIDL�Y NOVEMBER 22, 1972 PAGE 1 CALL TO ORDER; The meeting w$s called to order by Chairman Erickson at 8:05 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Minish, Zeglen, Erickson, Fitzpatrick Member Absent: Schmedeke Others Present: Darrel Clark, Jerry Boardman APPROVE PLANNING CONA4ISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 8, 1972 MOTION by Zeglen, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Comm.ission approve the Planning Commission minutes of November 8, 1972. Upon a voice vote, all voti�g aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-STREETS & UTILITIES SL'BCOMMITTEE MINUTES: NOVEMBER � 1972 MOTION by Minish, seconded by Zeglen, that the minutes of the Plats & Subdivisior�s-Streets "� ing of November 8, 1972. Upon a voice vote, all � ` ur�animous ly . s:;� • � Y �, the Planning Commission receive & Utilities Subcommittee meet- voting aye, the motion carried RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: NOVEMBER 14, 1972 MOTION by Minish, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission receive tl�e minutes of the Board of Appeals meeting of November 14, 1972. Upon a voice vote, ��1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 1. CONTINUED: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP �72-16, BY PHILLI�S PETROLEUM CO.: To continue the Use of the service station per Code 45.101, B, 3, E and to convert the North stall of the service station to a car wash and install a car wash machine per Code 45.101, B, 3 H,� located on the South 120 feet of the East 120 feet of Lot 18, Block S, Rice Creek Plaza South Addition, being the Northwest corner of Univer- sity Avenue and Mississippi Street. Mr. Steve Palmquist represented the Phillips Petroleum Company and Mr. Paul Klaverkamp zepresented the Hvlly Center. Chairman �rickson stated the Public Hearing was closed at the last meeting, Platining Commission Meeting - November 22, 1972 Page 2 Mr. Zeglen said he observed the station recently. He felt that the situa- �: tion on the stall for the car wash was really bad. Coming in from the service ro�d on �he West there is too much of an incline. He did not know how you can swing a car fast and get it in. Going East there is room for only two cars. Chairman Erickson commented that the Commission has two requests, one for the station to continue the Use as a service station and the second to make the North bay into a washing stall by knocking out the West stall and instal- ling an overhead door. . Mr. Clark said that the areas on the drawing are not clear. It would be better to drive in from the West side pf the structure and out on the East side. Mr. Minish said that he had seen some of these sta�ions where they do not drive through. There is concern if driving through would create a traffic problem. Mr• Steve Palmquist, representing Phillips Petroleum, said that they would prefer to drive through because it is an easier operation. It is pos- sible to operatQ coiping in from the East side and back out, but they prefer to drive throu�h. Chairman �rickson said that all of these cars would have to be in the station to get gasoline and have to go out the station and around the front. ^ The stacking space would be in the rear of the building. / 1 Mr. Palmquist said, that along the West side, the stacking room would be for three cars. The station has tk�ree entrances, one on Mississippi Street, one off the West service road and one off the North service road. a' � � Mr. Minish sa�.ci the entrance on the service drive presents a problem at the present t�-me. The most troublesome corner is the one on the Southwest side of the site. Mx. Minish ask�d the purpose of the car wash. Mr. Palmquist said there would be a wash with a fili of gasoline. It was strictly competitive and o�fering more services. Chairman Er�tckson asked what would prevent a station operator from putting up a$1.00 car washing sign or� quoted days. He did not know how they could stqp it. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that was the question that kept him worried. What assuran�e they would have that the station would continue the free wash With a fill of gasoline. � { Mr. Paul Klaverkam� said that four years or so ago they spent a lot of t�me p��an�.ng the whole.inte�change. He was not prepared to say how much t�aff�c would be there." With th� sCatipn as busy as it is now, it takes only twp or three cars before you have a baclt �p into the service road. Mr. Zeg1�n said that in wi�ter if a car is wet, coming down the incline and mak�.ng that turn on the service road could cause trouble due to ice on the driving surfaces. �lanning Commission Meeting -�ovember 22, 1972 Page 3 --,� r �� Mr. Palmquist $aid they would have to raise the grade so that the flvor grade would be comp.atible with the street. A retaining wall would be along the North side apprvach to the North bay. There is abou� a 3 or 4 foot transition in the elevation down to the service drive. Mr. Klaverkamp agreed the cars would come out wet with this type of operation. MOTION by Fitzpatrick, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commi.ssion reGeive a copy of the letter dated Nov�mber 14, 1972 and a copy of the original, deed with Phil]�ips �etroleum Co. sent by Mr. Klaverkamp to Phillips Petroleum Company. Upon a vqice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Minish said that recently the Commission has had a number of similar requests for allowi.ng different accessory Uses for �as stations. It is indica- tive w� have too many gas stations in Fridley. He was reluctant to se� the Commiasion continue to cater to their problems to increase the business and thgrefore justify their demands for more stations. There is the potential here to al],ow the incre�se of traffic problem and already we have problems with th� shopping center, particularly cars waiting to �et on�o Mississippi and this thexeby would add more. He would be willing to look at the site if some- thing were put in to prevent the left tuXn through the service drive going East on Mississippi. Until the problem of backups is solved, he did not want to see the situation aggravated in any way. � MOTION by Minish, seconded by Zeg1�n, that the Planning Commission recommend approval to Council of the request�for a Special Use Permit, SP � ;; � #72-16 by Ph�llips Petroleum Company �r t�e�cQntinued Use_of__the__Se_rvice Sta ion per Code 95.101, B, 3, E, but the Planning Commission recommends to Counci�. denial of the request to convert the North stall of the service sta- tion to a car wash and install a car wash machine, per Code 45.1a1, B, 3 H, located on the South 120 feet of the East 120 feet of Lot 18, Block 5, Rice Czeek P1aza South Rddition. Upon a vqice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. , 2� VACATION REQUESTi SAV �172-06, BY STATE LAND & DEVELOPMENT C0. (PAUL BURKHOLDER): To vacate 55th Avenue between Sth and 6th Streets and the 12 foot alley located in B1ock 10, Hami.lton's Addition to Mechanics- ville that is located between Highway �i�100 on the North and 54th Street on the South being the property o� the Sacred Heart of Jesus Polish Catholic Church. Ch�irman Erickson ex�lained thaX he received a lette� from Mr. Burk- holder �dd�essed to him statin� he would be unable to attend the Planning �pmmission meeting this evening because of the marriage of his oldest daughter. He read the letter. MOTION by Zeglen, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Commissipn receive the let�ex dated Nov�mber 22, 1972 frQm Paul Burkholder. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion aa�ried unanimously. `�� Plannin� Commission Meeting - November 22, 1972 Papie 4 Ctlairman Bricksou reviewed the discussion of the previous meeting by saying i�1 that when the P�.anning Commission rezoned in 1969 a portion of Block 10, they recommended 55th Avenue be kept open for a service drive. They were hard put Cp find this in the Council minutes. H� asked Aarrel to research this and find out i.f Couneil felt as the Commission did. Also he should consult Mr. Hili. . i�`'1 � � Mr. Clark said the memo is Mr. Qureshi's comments and his initials are on the bottom. He didn`t get a written report from Mr. Hill. His verbal opinion wa� that the servic� drive not be put in as it would create a problem due to sig�� problems. The 264 feet th,at Mr. Burkholder will put the building on does include the 30 foot righ� o� way of SSth Avenue. Secondly, where this right of way ad�oius the exi�ting driveway Which the highway built, does have a controlled access. He talked �o the Highway Department about extending 55th Avenue from 5th'Street to 7th Street. They would reluctantly agree. They felt the in�exsection which irttersects with 7th Street does have a visual problem. The service road would actually run from 4th Street to 7th St�eet. Three hundred fe�t is not open to traffic now. It would have to be blacktopped. Chairman $rickson no�ed that the access is on Highway property and askad who maix��ained it. Mr. Clark said the City does�sn�w plowing on�.y from Stl� Street.. (Some pictures w�re shown of the intersections) One of the pictures was taken standing at the so-called service drive looking towards th� South and North. There is a hill about 300 feet South of the proposed driveway. He xece�ved some data on design from the highway department. The iqi�itnum distancg recommended on a 30 mile an hour street is 3p0 feet. Their re�omtaendation was that intersection should be avoided if at all possible. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that it did not seem to him that the Commission� woµld have to justify the iunnediate construction of a service drive in order to justify a City problem. It seemed to him too often there is a rush to vacate a City right of way because it is not about to be used. They have made that type of mistake in the past. One of the things Mr. Qureshi said iA his answer to Darrel�s u�emo seems to indicate that the City might want �o retain control until we see what the accesses would be. Mr. Minish eaid he felt the reason for the vacation request was tp get sufficient area for the 32 units. Chairman F�xickson added that the petitioner claims he spent a lot of �ime woxking out the complex. The legal description of 264 feet includes thg stre�ts. Fie laid the complex ou� using th�se dimensions. If he cannot vacate the street, he will have to move the ga�ages to the South and reduce �he density. MOTION by Fitz�atXick, seconded b� Zeglen, that the Planning Commissipn reCOmmend to Council ap�xoval of the vacation request for the alley in 81ock 10, �iami.�ton's Addition to Mechanicsville, SAV #72-06, by State I,and & Development Gq;npany by Paul Burkholder. UpoM a voice vote, a11 votinq aye, the motion qarried un�nimously. Planning Co�nission Meetin� - Nove�be� 22, 1972 Page 5 � MOT�ON by Fit�patrick, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Commission � r�comm�nd to Cpuncil denial of that part of the vacation request, SAV #72-06, involvi�g the vacation of Block �0, Hamilton's Addition to Mechanicsville being 55'th Ave�ue bet�een 5th and 6th Streets. Upon a voice vote, all voting ays, the motiori carried unanimously. 3. CONFTRM �UBLIG HEARING DATE OF DECEMBER 6, 1972: Rezaning Requ�st, ZOA �72T1�, by Union OiI Company, 5695 Hackmann Avenue to rezone from C-1S (local shopping) to C-2 (general business). P'�TION b� Fitzpatrick, seconded by �eglen, that the P�anning Cominission �on�irm the PWolic Hearing date o£ Aecember 6, 1972 for the Rezoning Request, �OA #72-�1, by Unip� Oil Company. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the nto�ion aarried unanimously. 4. CONFIRM PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF DECEMBER 6, 1972: Request fo� a Special Use Permit, SP �72-18, by Union Oi1 Compar�y, 5695 Hackmann Avenue to construct a convenience store and continue th� service station. . MOTION by F�tzpatrick, seconded by Zeg�en, that t�e Plaaaning Commission �onfirm the Publ�c Hearinq date of DeGember 6, 1972 tor the Special Use Pex'mit, S� #72-18, by Union Oil Company. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, th� moti.on carried unanimously. � � 5. CONFIRM PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF DECEMBER 6i 1972: Proposed Registered Land Survey, P.S. ik72-06, by Donald A. Schultz being a replat of Lots 1 and 2, Blpck 1, Ed�ewater Gardens. MOTION }�y F�.ta�atrick, secqnded �y Zeglen, that the Planning CoAani.ssion �Q�lf.irm �he Public Hearing date o� Aeceml�er 6, 1972 for the proposed Rec�iste�ed �rtd 5urvey, �.5. #72-06, by Aonald A. Schultz. Upo� a vo�ce vote, all voting 8.ye, the motion Gax�x�ied unariimously. ' 6. COk1FIRM PUBLIC &iEAR.ING DATE OF DECEMB$it 6�1972: Proposed Preliminary P1at, P•S. �i�7�--pi, ,Tim Lund Acx'es, by James Lund Cons�ruction Co., Inc. �� beit�g a repla� o� Lot 13, Auditox''s Subdivision �129. (Sou�tt�east �-• eo�n�r of 7.�th �venue and Central Avet�ue. MO'�ION b� k'itzpatrick, seconded by Zeglen, that the P1.anning Commission cv��i� �he Public Hearinq date of December 6, 1972 for the propo�ed Pre-- �.��.in�ry Pla�, P.S. �72-07, Jim Lund Acres by James Lund Cons�ruction Comgany, �rias Upqn a v�iCe vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 7, CONF$Rl�ii FUBI,I� HEARING DATE QF DECEMBER �, 1972: R�zpt�ing Reques�, 0 - e Y a�s Lu�d Co�stzu�tiori Co., Inco, to rezo�e Ch� �,1�s� � ��� ��� o{ .Lpt 13, �Audi.tor'� Subd��.�ioia 4�129 �rom C?1 S (�.oe��. ��,pp- pi��) to �ta� (�i.ngle fam�.ly dw�11.�.n�s� . �� Planning Commission Meetin� - Nove�i�ae:_° 21, �9%` Pat�e 6 MOTION by Fitz�atrick, seconded �y Zeglen, that �"`�, con�irm the Public Hearing date of December 6, 1972 ZO.� #72�].2, by Jame� Lund Construction Company, Inc. vpting aye, the motion carried unani�mously. r�\ r the Planning Cp�nnu.ssion for �he Rezoning Request, Upon a voice vote, all $. CONFIRM PUBL�C HEARING DATE OF DECEMBER 6, 1972: Request for a Special Use Permit, SF �%72-19, by Frank Gabrelcik for Lots 6 to 10, Block 28, �d Lot 16, �lock 21, Hyde Park Addition to continue the Used Car lot � artd permit itts�de garage repai�s. MOTION by Fitzp�trick, seconded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission confix'm the Public Hearing date of December 6, 1972 for a Special Use Permit, SP #i2-�9, by Frank �abxelcik. Upo� a�oice vote, all voting aye, the mot�an carried unanimouslya �90 LEAGUE OF WOME1� VOTERS: Nature Cer�ter presentation by Barbara Hughes. �or the first part of thE program, Mss� Ba-rba�� Hughes showed maps and �e��exs prepaXed for the League of Women Voters �rhicta "sho�as about everything yotl'd wa�t to lcnow about a Nature Cen�er. The slides showed what some of the surrounding �vmmunities were doing with their nature c��°��e�s. There were also slides o� Friciley's North PaXk area. Her talk was well prepared an.d in�.eresting. Ttze Chairman thanked he� for the presentation. 10. FINAL REVIEW OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE CITY OF FRIDLEY: Jerry $o�Xdmant told the �ommission tha� basically the Plan is the same ,�s before. Tl�exe is a correction ar� the Land Use Table on Page 9. The coXrection bas��ally given had taken �nto account the rates shown on the study Wqx�e the same as before, but they found out the rates were 1ess. The differe�nce bei�g a� �.�cxease in residential p�ope�ty from 25.2% up to 34°/„ which w,�s b�s�.call.y what tk�ey had the fi�st time they came in. All other changes made wete as �he �l��rtin� �om�ission directed. �i� Br�id��', �ouncilman of Warc1 ��1: He was at the meeting in order to +���.�iA �aiy �han��s the Council might hav�. One concern in the area of study W��9 t�e N�arth section known as North Park and the exp�nsion of the storm sQw�r ���$lities in that axea. His pe�sona�. opin�on was that he would like tA ��� ChA a�'ea x'emain a� an open po�tding system �'ather than a pipe system, xa��rdl��s what is set up. He did no� know how big a pi�ce of pXQperty they hav� to talk abc�ut. �'he� ihere was the Church of Sai�� William who own quite a large piace cF� �d�veloped prope�'ty, two or threg acres, behind Moon P�,aza. He thought �h@;� w�s nq p�,an �ox this area. The church �s wondering what thsy �ight dq witt{ I�h� pr�pe�ty. X4u might in�lude in this plan a motion �-�h�.t would fit be�� ��x�, �h�the� hi$h ris�, duplex ox multiple. The�� was ��tgtk�e�r discussion �elatin� to the Spring Lake Park Court � d�cisio� ���t has ye� to be d�cided,�the �ps� o� the stQ�m sewer wi�h ar with- o�� a faVpx�b�.e d�cision, the g�.olo�ica]. ��fect of su�rface dg,�inage and s�c�rm s�w�� p��g�s in reference to the North Park ar�a. n i�\ �lanning Commission Meeting - Nove�be� 22, 1972 Page 7 Then back to Church of Saint William, Mr. Clark said no ma�ter what the use �s, whether multiple, commercial or industrial, they will have to wo�k out the storm sewer problem. Mr. Breider said that the Church people will say they want to know where they are goin� and how are we getLing there. They'd li�e to know r��Mt off the top what alternatives they can use. M�. Boardman answered that th�s would be handled when a study is taken o� this area, takin� into account d�ainag� and all other factors. Chai�man Erickson said that the 6omprehensive Plan will let the people knqw what the City feels is desirable in these areas. Out of these Public He�rings w�ll come the final recommendation to the Council. Mr. Boardman said they want to handle lar�e major p��blems right now. Later on, whe� problem areas arise, they will be supplemena�� issues to �his. Ch�i�man Erickson said if they were going �o ge� a plan started, they wi�l h�va to be�in with the large parcels. Pe�h��s �..he only real problem in the cqmmunity is the Hyde Park areae Mos� o� the oth�� areas are undeveloped. Mx'. �oardman said that in order for the Comprehensive Plan to be workable, it has tq b� in constant review. Conseant documentation is needed in order fo� th� plan to be effective at ail. The conv�rsation then revo�ved around setting the dates and the number of Publi� Hearings. Th� suggestion was made to include the people 300 feet outside of the study �r�as in the Public Hearing notice. MOT�ON by Minish, secpnded by Zeglen, that the Planning Commission adopt the CompXehensive Plan as presente� �t this meeting, that the Public Hearings be held infor�lly fpr information purposes, and that January 10, 1973 be ; Set �o� the fixst Public Hearing for Areas 1 and 5. The dates for Areas 2, 3 �nd 4�o $e $et at � later date. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimous�y. The Commis�io� suggested the following City groups be given a copy of t�}� Comprehensive plan at this time: League of Women Voters, Chamber of �ommerce, Jaycees, School District No. 14, Metropolitan Planning Commission, Min�stexi&1 Association, Industrial Commission and other Civic Groups. � �1. S�T PUBLIC HEARING DATE: Proposed Preliminary Plat, P.S. ��72-08, Osborne Fl��a, by Stacidard 0�1 �ompany (W. G. Housenga). �OT�ON �y �i��s�� seconde� by Zeglen, ��ia� the Planning Cammiss�on set a P'i�b1iG H�ari�� d�te of Deoember 20, 1972 for the Proposed Prelimina�y Pi�t, P.S. #i2=0�, Osbqrne Plaza, �� Standard Oil Company (W. G. Housenga). U�on d Voice Vqte, all votin� aye, thF tnotion c arri et: �ir:ar.imously. n 0 � °� � � Plannin�Commission Meeting - Novembeg �29 1972 Page 8 12. SET PUBI.IC HEARING DATE: Request for Vacation, SAV ��72-07, by Northwestern Bell Telephone Company to vacate the alley in Block 11, Hyde Park Addition. N�OTION by Fitzpa�rick, seconded by Zeg1En, that the Planr,ing Commission set a Public Hearing date of December 20, 1972 for the Vacation Request, SAV #72-07 by Northwestern Bell Telephone Company. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. AD.TpU�NMENT : There being no further business, Chaixman Erickson adjourned the meeting at 10:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted Hazel 0'Brian Recording Secretary