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PL 06/05/1974 - 30401� CITY OF FRIDLEY � PLANNING COMMIS5ION MEETING JUNE 5, 1974 PAGE 1 CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Fi�tzpatrick called the meeting to order at 8:05 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Fitzpatrick, Harris, Lindblad, Blair ' Members Absenta Drigans Others Present: Darrel Clark, Community Development Administrator • � James Langen�eld, Chairman of Environmental Quality Commission ' APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MA.Y 22, 1974 MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Harris, fihat the Planning Commission approve the minutes of their May 22, 1974 meeting as written. Upon a voice vote, a.Il voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE' BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: MAY 28, 1974 ^ MOTION by Ilarris, secbnded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission receive the minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee meeting of May 28, I974a Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the mo�ion carried unanimousl�. REC�IVE BUILDING 5TANDARDS°DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTESo MAY 28, 1974 Mr. Lindblad said he had one comment to mak�. He said that he noted that Council had concurred with the Building Standards°Design Control Subcommittee recommendation on the Salt Storage building except . that they deleted stipulation 5 which stated that Council work up an agreement wi.th the Minnesota Highway Department stating either they provide an area for multi-recreational use o.r provide an access to an area for such usee Mr. Lindblad said they•thought a boat or canoe • launching area coulci be provided as this would be an ideal site for such a facility. N1r. Clark said there was a real need for thiso Mr. Harris said he had been at the Council meeting and as he remembered i-t, it seemed that they felt ichey might have problems of security in providin this facility. ' MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Har•ris, �hat the P.Ianning Comm.ission receive the rrrinutes of the Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee meeting of May 28, 1974. Upon a voice vote, a1.I voting aye, n� the motion carried unanimously. . "'` 1. FUIILIC HEARING: CONSIDER.ATION OF AMENDING CHAPTER 205, SECTION . 205.Q51, PARAGRAYH 2,�A, ACCESSORY USES, OF THE CITY CODE OF THE CITY OI' FRTDLEY. � ��> -- Planr�i�ng� Commiss�ion Meeting — June 5, 19�74 � �age 2 Chairman Fitzpatrick read �che Public Hearing �otice on the proposed amendment to Chapter 205, Section 205.051., Paragraph 2, A, �� Accessory Uses, of the City Code of the City of Fridley. .Mr. Fitzpatrick said the purpose of this proposed change was to set a i%aximum size on second accessory buildings �hat would.not require a special u.se permit. Mr. Lindblad said he thought only ane accessory btzilding and one additional accessory building is a11 that should be allowed on a lot. He said he wouldn't like to see two or three little sheds on a property. Mr. Fi�tzpatrick asked how many accessory buildings under the minimum square footage rec�uirement for a special use permii. would be all'owed on a lot. � � ' � Mr. Clark said the inten�t is to allow a garage and one other accessory building. Mr. Harris said he thought this should be discussed so the intent was clear in the ordinance. Mr. Fitzpatrick said we have to decide at what�point we want a second accessory buiZding to require a special use permit so that the requests be�ow this requiremen�t can be handled at the staff level. Mr. C1ark said the intent of the ori¢�inal ordinance was so tha'c n a second accessory building couldn't be built that would be used for additional incomeo He thought any building up to a 12 foot x 20 foo-� size would be too small �o allow any use but for the purpose in�tendedp which would be for some �type of storage. You would need a building this large to store a boat, for ins�ance. Mr. Harris said we cou�ld specify thai any accessory building not be used for home occupation. Mr. Clark said this is already in the Code. Mr. %iarris said he thought it wouid be a good idea to restate it in this section of the code also. Mr. Fitzpatrick said he thought tha•L- anyone who was going to try and use a second accessory building for additional income would want a building larger than 240 square feet, and this would still require a special use permit so �his cou.ld still be controlled. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark if they should specify that these second accessory buildings have to meet the State Building Code. I�ir. Clark said he was sure that the metal storage sheds did not meet the State Code. They didn't have 40 pound roof loads for one thing. He said these aren't habitable buildings; and the metal storage sheds were so popular, he didn't f_eel they should concern themselves with this. He said people don't enter storage sheds that much in the win�ter time and it would really be a coincidence if one collaped when someone was in it. '� Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark how having this building affixed to � `° a permanent foundation would be interpreted. Would this mean a concrete .� slab? Mr. Clark said he didn�t think a concrete•slab could be required. He said he has seen a post and beam used also and there may be other Planning Commission Meeting - June 5, 1974 Paae 3 methods to keep these buildings permanently loca�ed. This is to � prohibit people from buying a floor for these buildings and not • at�aching these buildings to any foundation. He said he thought the .statement could remain as it was as. the City wasn't having any problems with i� now. MOTION by Lindb.Zad, seconded by. Harris, that the Planning Commission close the Public Hearing on the consideration of amending Chapter 205, Section 205.051, Paragraph 2, A, Accessory Uses, of the City Code of the City of Fridley. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting.aye, the'motion carried ananimo�sly. MOTION by Harris, seconded b� Lindblad, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council that Chapter 205, Section 205.051, �Pa'ragraph 2, A, .Accesscry Uses, of the City Code of the City of � Fridley be amended to read as folZows: �� ' 2.� Accessory Uses Ae Private garages or other accessory buildings. Only one a�cessory building ?n excess of,240 square feet is a.Zlowed per site. One addiiional accessory building is allowed provided it does not exceed 240 square feet. Any accessor� building in excess of the above requirernents (square footage or number of buildings) requires a special �"'� use permi t o AIZ accessory buildings must be p.errnane'ntly a�tached to a foundation and may not be used for home occupation. A1I garages whether attached to, tucked under, or detached from the main dwelling, are considered to be an accessory building. Upon a voice vote, a1I voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark to contact Herb Meyer of the State Building Code Division and ask about thes� metal storage buildings having standards set by the State. 2. CONTINUED: PUBLTC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #7�-10, BY W. RED STANG: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.051, 3, N, to allow trailers, campers, mobile homes, boats, mach�nery, spor'cing equipment and like enterprises having its merchandise in the open and not under cover of display salesroom, to be located on Lots 1 and 2, Block l, C. D..Hutchinson Addition, . loca-�ed at 6451 East River Road N.E. Public Hearing open. Mr. Clark said the petitioner has asked that this request be r^� continued until he can meet with the Oil Company to see if he will ,l. be able to have a fenced in area for any outside storage he might need. If he can obtain this, he wil.l withdraw his request. If he ' can't abtain this, he will still need a special use permit. P•lanning Commission Meeting - June 5, 1974 Page 4 � MOTION by Harris, seconded by BZair, that the Planning Commission continue the request for a Special Use Permit,. by W. Red 5tang, SP #74-10, until the petitioner decides to withdraw his request or to continue to seek this special use permit. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye,�the motion carried unanimously. � 3. RENEWAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #73-03, BY KEITH S. SWENSON AND DENNIS D. SARKILAHTI: To continue a service station and . permit the addi�ion of rental of local and one-way truck and trailers, as per Frzdley City Code, Section 205.101, Paragraph � B, 3, E, l, to be located on the East 119001 feet of Lots 28, 29, and 30, Block 4, Hyde Park Addition, the same being a Texaco Station at 6071 Universi�y Avenue N.E. Mr. Dennis D. Sarkilahti was presente Mr. Sarkilahti said Mro Swenson was no longer connected with this request. He now has U-Haul trucks and trailers instead of E-Z-Haul. Mr. Clark said that as far as he was concerned this was one of the cleanes� rental stations that he had seen in a long time. The petitioner has kept the rental units in an orderly manner. Only once or twice has there been more units on the property than there should be and the petitioner said this would happen at times when a lot of units came in on the week-end and they couldn'� be moved until Mondaye Mr. Clark said they have changed off on where they parked the trailers and the trucks. Mr. Sarkilah�i said the reason this was chang- ed was because where the trucks has been located, this had almost caused an accident happening �n :comirig over the curb. Nlr. Blair • said he liked the location of the units better where they were :�ocated now, than where they were located before. NIr. Clark said the Ci�y�Yias received no complaints on'this operation. He said that the present operator of this sication was doing a goad job in keeping a neat operation. Mro Lindblad asked about the one year renewal. Mr. Clark said he thought this was a good policy because it helped keep the operator aware that he had to keep the property in good order. Also, if another operator took over the property, they woulcl have to do the same. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked the petitioner if he had any object�on._ to a yearly review of the special use permit. Mr. SarkilaYi.'�i said he had no objection. - MOTION by Blair, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission recommend to CounciZ that the special use permit, SP #73-03, by � Denni& D. 5arkilahti, to continue a service station and permit the °� addition of rental of .iocal and one-way truck and traiZers, as per Fridley City Code, Section 205.101, Paragraph B, 3, E, 1, located on the East 119.01 feet of :Lots 28, 29 and 30, B.Zock 4, Hyde Park Addition, ' the same being a Texaco��Station at 6071 University Avenue N.E. be �� Planning Commission Meeting - June 5, 1974 P.age 5 renewed for�one year. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 4. VACATION REQUEST, SAV #74-01, BY FLORENCE E. SWANSON: Vacate that part of Hugo Street d�dicated in the plat of Swanson's Terrace, lying Easterly of the Southerly extension of the West line of Lots 1 and 3, Block l, Swanson's Terrace. 5.' REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L.S. #74°11, BY FLORENCE E. SWANSON: Reloca�e the division line between Lots 3 and 4, Block 1, Swanson°s Terrace, to be located parallel to and 80 feet South of the ' South line of Lots 1 and 2, Block l, Swanson's Terrace. Mr. Clark said that what prompted this request was the sale of Lots 4 and 5 to the City for park property. Lo� 3 will remain a residential lote The reason for the dedication for t�e bubble for the cul-de-sac was to give access to Hugo.Street for �hese lots which isn'� needed now. Mr. Harris said he had talked to Mrs. Swanson's representative ._on the telephone before the meeting. He wondered if he had to come to�the mee�ing, and he �old him he didn°t �hink he had to be t�ere. Mr. Harris said Mre Sporre told him this is torrens property. Mr. Clark said they may have a problem at the County. He said . �hat if this had to be platted, the City would probably have to share ^ .in the cost because of the park land. M[r. Harris said i� was worth a try to handle this as a lo� splito Mr. Clark said the legal descrip- tion was quite simple so this might help. - � i"`� Mr. Harris asked if i� was going to be hard to describe the vacation? Mr. Clark said no. It could be described as all of Hugo Street lying East of the Westerly line.of Lot 1 extended South. MOTION by Harris, seconded b�.Bla,ir, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of a vacation request, SAV #74-01, by Florence E. Swanson, to vacate tha.t part of Hugo Street dedicated in fhe p2at of Swanson's Terrace Iying Easterly of the 5outherly extension of the West Line of Lots 1 and 3, Block Z, Swanson`s Terrace. Upon a �voace vote,�a1l voting �aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Fitzpatrick said he thought the request for a lot split was a re�sonable reques� to straighten ou� the lot line of Lot 3e Mr. Harris asked if there would be a fence between the park property and Lot 3. Mr. Clark said he was not familiar enough with the development oi tlze park property to know i� this would be fenced. They ususally do put up a fence. Mr. Harris said it would look better to have the fence go on a straight line�than at an angle. • Mr. Harris �said what this lot split request amounts to is a land trade off between Lots 3 and 4. MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Commission recommend to CounciZ approvaZ of the request for a 1ot split, �„� _� r� Planning Commission Meeting - June 5, 1974 Pa e 6 L.S.�#74-11, by Florence E. Swanson, to relocate the division Iine betw�en Lots 3 and 4, Block 1, Swanson's Terrace, to be Iocated parallel to and 80 feet South of the South line of Lofs I and 2, Block 1 Swans�n's Terrace. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark if it was necessary to state that if this di�n'�t get accepted by the torrens examiner it will have to come back as a plat? Mr. Clark said no, it will just have to come back as a plat and have Public Hearings. Upon a voice vote, alI voting aye, the motion carried unanimouslye Mr. Clark said the petitioner had stated orally tha� they thought ihe fee should be waived on these requests because the City is benefit- ing from these requests also. MOTION by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that the Council consider waiving the fees for the requests for a vacation, SA V#74-01, and a lot split, L.S. #74-11, by Florence E. Swanson, because the City wi11 benefit as much as the petitioner from these requests. Upon a voice vote, aZI voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 6. MEMO FROM JERROLD BOARDAZA.N ON ZONING�CHANGE FOR CHASES ISLAND Nir'. Clark said the City had received a letter from the State saying tha•t they will approve our flood plain ordinance with the change that Chases Island be changed.from CRP-2, flood plain, to CRP-1, floodway. This doesn°t affect the use of this property as far as the use the City can make of 'this property. Boat docks and shelters or anything else ichat would not f loa�t away during a flood can be buil�t on this property. The reason for this change was because CRP-2 would allow the filling of land, and they wan� to make sure -the channel could not be narrowed with land fill. He said the City had no objection to this change. MOTION by Harr.is, seconded by Lindb.Zad, that the Planning � Commission receive the memo from Jerrold Boardman on the zoning change for Chases Island. Upon a voice vote, a.I1 vofing aye, the motion carried unanimouslye . 7. INFORI�3TT'ON FOR HYDE PARK STUDY Mr. Fitzpatrick said this is still under discussion by the Council and as �the Planning Commission had received all this information on Monday, he didn't thinlc anyone had been able to read it all yete Mre Harris said he was at the Council meeting on June 3, 1974. He ichought the Couricil was thinking abou�t having the Planning Commission hold a Public Hearing. . Mr. Clark sa�.d the Planning Commission should probably wait on •�his until they get the minutes of �that Council meeting so this could �, be clarified. � ''� MOZ'ION by Harris, seconded by B1air, that the PZanning Commission • � receive the information for the Hyde Park S�uc1yand continue this item ��� ... Planning Commission Meeting-- June 5, 1974 Page 7 for further consideration. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the mot�on carried unanimously. � 8. ARTICLE FROM PUBLIC MANAGEMENT MAGAZINE 1970 FROM JERROLD BOARDMAN: AESTHETIC POLLUTION MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by B1air, that the Planning Commission receive the'article from Public Mlanagement 1970 from Jerrold Boardman entitled Aesthetic Po1.Zution. Upon a uoice vote, a1Z vo�ing aye, the motion carried unanimously. . Mr. Clark said �his was an article tri.at had been called to Mr. Boardman°s attention and he thought it was something the Planning Commission would be interesied in. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this is something we have talked aboui from time to time in relation�to billboards. He sa'id he had been to�the Fridley D.F.L. convention and there seemed to be supporic �or tl�e enforcement of the sign ordinancea He said they weren't as speci�ic as he woulci have liked them to be. Mr. Harris said there �,ras discussion at the Council meeting on having the�Environmental Quality Commission study and make recommenda- tions on the applications for variances and special use permi�cs on the billboards. These would come back to the Planning Commission and Board of Appeals. j..� Nlr. Langenfeld said that someone on the Council has said that the Environmentcal Quality Commission cauld make recommendations on � whether the variance should be allowed and this had been questioned by the City Actorney. Mr. Harris said this was,.because only the Board of Appeals were authorized to make recommendations on variances. � What the Board of Appeals an.d the Planning Commission want from the Environmental Quality Commission is a recommendation on the environmental impact of each billboard which would help these two bodies in their . recommendations. 9. INFORNlATION FROM JAMES LANGENFELD FOR THE PLANNING CON.�MISION MOTION by Lindblad, seconded,by Harris, that the Planning Comrnission receive the information from James Langenfeld. Upon a voice vote, aI1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimouslv_ � Mr. Langenfeld said that mos�t of this information was selfeer.plana- tory. He had given them a copy of the Environmental Quality Commission by-laws and informa-tion he had received at an environmental symposium at the University ot Minnesota. Mr. Fitzpatrick said the Planning Commission was glad to get this informatione He said the summary of environmental legislation by the State of Minnesota would be very helpful. `...1 Mr. Langenfeld said he had just received a copy of "Critical Areas of the Planning Process'° from the State Environmental Quality Council. He only had one capy of this. He asked the Planning Commission secretary to make copies of this and see that all the �: Plann�i•ng• Commission Meeting - June 5, 1974 P.age 8 niembers of the Planning Commission gqt a copy. � • Mr. Langenfeld said he often got material �that he thought the Planning Corimission should have. Mr. Fi�zpatrick said the Planning Commission would like to have copies of the Environmenal Quality Commission minutes. Mr. Langenfeld said he would ask the secretary to see that they got them and then he could include any other inf�orma- I tion along with this� 10. GENERAL DISCUSSION Mro Lindblad asked when Burlington Northern was going to clean � up �heir junk yard between 47�h and 49th Avenue. He said �this should either b� cleaned up or fenced. Mr. Clark said this should be taken care of by late summ�r or in iche fall. Mr. Langenfeld asked if there had been a possible .�ite picked out for a recycling center. Mr. Clark said he had no knowledge of this as yete Mro Harris said that up in East Ranch Estates by the 78th Stree�t exit between Rancher'.s Road and University th.ere was a break in the sanitary sewer line and surface water was running into the sanitary sewer. He said the Metropolitan Sewer Board should be no�ified of �this to see if some crediic could be given. This should be repaired. �� . NOTE: This has. been fixed temporarily until there is storm sewer construction. Mr. Harris asked when they were going to work on the drainage ditch for %8th Street and get the storm sewer for this area comple'ced. NOTE: August 15th is the completion date. . Mr. Langenfeld asked who would be doing th� testing for Moore Lake. Mr. Clark said he knew there had been bids taken, but he didn't know who had gotten the bido Mr. Langenfeld said tha�c he wondered if anyone on the Planning Cominission had seen all�the trees that had been cut down in the County park west of East River Road. He said that when you see this, anyone would vote for a tree ordinance. He said you can see all the way to the river now. NOTE: The County went in to clear some brush and found d�_seased trees. They had no chcaice but to cut them down. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark to check on a sign by the Town Crier that was in City right of way. � , • Chairman Fitzpatrick�adjourned the meeting at 9:40 P.M. r.^"� . . � Respectfully submitted, � , - � � `Jl(1i ..c-�i''/ �. � �!. . 1 �'!�-;�t ' E.3�/ • orot y Evenson, Secretary . . �� :.