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PL 07/09/1975 - 30423�--� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CALL TO ORDER: CITY OF FRIDLEY JULY 9, 1975 Chairman Harris.called the meetir�g to order at 8:00 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Rresent: Members Absent: Others Present: Harris, Scott, Bergman, Peterson, Drigans Langenfeld � Jerrold Boardman, Planning Assistant APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE 25, 1975 PAGE 1 MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Scott, that ihe minutes of the PZanning Commission rneeting of June 25, I975 be approved as written. - Chairman Har;•is called for discussion. Mr. Narris then read aloud the following letter regarding vacation request, SAV #75-04 (between Longfellow and'79th from Ashton to the railroad tracks). "Mr. Richard Harris, Chairman, Fridley Planning Commission, 6431 University Avenue N.E., Fridley, Minnesota 55432. � 'Dear Mr. Harris: RE: Vacation Request, SAV #75-04. After reading the minutes of the June 25, 1975 Planning Commission, we feel there are a few items that were not included, ihat we think should be. 1. Mrs. Judy Welch, 1�4 Longfellow St. N.E. stated ^ that she didn't�th:�nkthere was one person on B�lock 4 who wanted the easement paved or - improved. 2. Mr. Robert Welch asked if the taxes will increase, if the property is vacated., Mr. Langenfeld replied yes. Mr. Welch-asked why should we have to pay taxes on property we don't even want to own. •3. Mrs. Welch said that they intend to put in a double car garage in the near future, and then there would be no other access to the rear of their property accept by way of the easement in back. There is also a false� statement in the minutes regarding the sodding of this area. Mrs. Paulson, who has lived at 131 79th Way for about fifteen years has said she didn't think anyone ever sodded the easement, it is just filled in with weeds. I hope you realize that we don't want this property to be used as a drag strip, snowmobile haven,.or gang hangout, we never had problems with this easement before the f�nces were installed. We are�just. requesting that it stay open�so that when it is necessary to reach the rear of our property, we will have an access. Thank you. Mrs. Delores A. Pett, Eugene L. Pett, C. P�ulson, Mrs. Hazel Paulson, Mrs. H.F. Muhich, R. J. Welch, Judith L. Welch." Mr. & Mrs. Robert�Welch, 144 Longfellow Street N.E., were present at the meeting. Mr. Harris siated that it was his und�rstanding that the City had received a letter from Mr. Benson's attorney regarding the other side of the question. Mr. Drigans recalled that there were��.�lso some questions directed to the au,dience regarding�people signing both petitions. He added that he did not find any mention of that in the minutes: Mr. Harris said.that was correct. '�' Mr. Drigans thought that it mi ht be a ro riate to direct the staff tb��� 9 PP P relisten to the tape� and modify the minutes accordingly. Planning Commission Meetin - July 9, 1975 Paqe 2 Mr. Drigans and Mr. Scott WITHDREW THE MOTION. o MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Peterson, that the PZanning Commission table � � approval of the minutes of the June 25, 1975 meeting, and request that the adrti.nistration ' review the tapes and include that section of the tape reqarding vacation request, SAV #75-04, in verbatim, for the next Planning Commission meeting on JuZy 23, 1975. UPON a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the rrrotion carried unenimously. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE 26, 1975 MOTION by Scott, seconded by Peterson, that the PZannint Commission receive the minutes �f the Human Resources Commission meeting of June 26, I975. Upon a voice vote, a1I voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 1. BUILDING PERMITS 'None. 2. ELECT VICE CHAIRMAN Chairman Harris called for nominations. Mr. Peterson nominated Mr, Drigans for Vice Chairman of the Planning Commission. Chairman Harris called for further nominations. There were none. MOTION b� Peterson, seconded by Bergman, that fhe Planning Commission close the nominations for Vice Chairman. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried n � unanimously. - ' MOTION by Peterson, seconded b� Bergman, that a unanimous ba.Zlot be cast for Mr. Drigans as Vice Chairman of the PZanning Commission. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. . 3. SHORELAND MANAGEMENT ACT � Chairman Harris called on Jerrold Boardman, Planning Assistant, to explain��the Shoreland Management Act to the Commission. � Mr. Boardman explained that the Shoreland Management Act was another set of rules and regulations from the Department of Natural Resources. If they ar.e adopted by the State, they wi11 then be mandatory regulations'for all municipalities. Mr. Boardman.continued that there have been a number of State and Federal manda- tory regulations already, including the Flood Plain Ordinance, which was required by the Federal and State government. Initially, the Department of Natural Resources set up rules and regulations called "Rural Shoreland Management". This managed the shorelines of all major public lakes and recreational facilities in the State of � Minnesota as far as setbacks of structure, lot size restrictions, sewer facilities, etc. This meant that a building had to be placed within a certain distance of the shoreline. Mr. Boardman said that through the Shoreland Management Act, the State also requires�. the municipalities to establish Shoreland Management Ordinances. The Commissioner of �; the Department of Natural Resources would classify all pablic waters into categories. � �"1 He sai.d that he believes that Fridley would have three bodies of water classified as t, . public waters. These would be, (1) Rice Creek, (2) Moore Lake, (3) Mississippi � River. � Plannin� Commiss�ion Meeting - July 9, 1975 � �Page 3 Mr. Boardman said that on July 16,.1975 at 12:30 P.M., there wo�ld be a Public Hearing held on the proposed Shoreland Management rules and regulations at the St. � Paul Vocational Technical Institute. He explained that the City staff can make a presentation against the proposed rules a� this Public Hearing, if the Planning Commission felt strongly about the negative aspects of these regulations. Mr. Boardman said that one of the questions which should be presented was what would happen if something should occur in some of the residential areas, sucfi as a tornado, etc.. He said, however, that there was a section in the Act which would allow the municipalities to allow variances to this code. These deviations, however, would be based upon the Commissioner's consent. Mr. Harr7s said that it seemed �as if the City had overlapping regulations. Some of these were in conflict.. In reference to Mrs. Harris's point, Mr. Boardman sazd that under'the Shoreland Management Act, the setback requirement was U00 feet. However, under Critical Areas, the setback was �•0 feet. � Mr. Scott explained'that by forcing the City to accomodate what was written in the Shoreland Management Act, the City would have no flexibility. He added that once the ordinance was determined, if there was some problem with that type of ordinance, the City would have to present it's case to the Depart�ent of Natural Resources, rather than the Department of Natural Resources coming to the City and assisting them with the•problem. The burden of proof would be �nfl�eted. upon the City. Mr. Boardman said the main reason that this came about was the presence of � � private supplies of water and private septic systems. He said he didn't feel that — this ordinance was well put together. • Mr. Harris commented that if this,ordinance was adopted we would eliminate any low cost, high rise type housing on that section of land south of I.694 and west of East River Road: That land would become�almost unusable. Mr. Boardman said that the��eal pr.oblem was that the City had different agencies going through different steps,�Critical Areas, Shoreland Management Act, etc., without consulting each other. Mr. Harris a�ked what.all of this would mean to the homeowner. Would th9's increase or depreciate the value of his property? .' � Mr. Drigans said that it could depreciate it, or in the case of disaster, he would not be able to�rebuild. Mr. Harris questioned the obtainability of insurance coverage. Mr. Peterson felt that this Act would be discriminatory in the way that average peaple would not be able to afford to�enjoy their property. MOTION by Peterson, seconded by Bergman, that Jerrold Boardman prepare a . resolution for Mr. Harris's.siqnature`��s-�@hairman of the Planning Cormnission, and that this resolution become the official resolution of_the Planning Commission, to be �,,,1 presented at the Ju1y 16th Public Hearing meeting, and that this resoluation be ' presented to the City Council at the next regular City Council meeting, and if the City,Council so chooses, they may adopt that resolution as the City Covncil resolution to be sent out prior to Au�ust 5, 1975. Upon a voice vote, all votzng aye, the .motion carried unanimously. . � � Planninq Corru�nission Meeting - July 9, 1975 Page 4 � It was decided that Chairman Harris will contact each of the members of the • Planning Commission for their approval of the resolution. MOTION by Peterson, seconded by Bergman, that Chairman Harris represent the Planning Commission, along with Jerrold Bbardman, at the Public Hearing for the 5horeland Management Act on Ju1y 16, 1975. Upon a voice vote, aZl voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 4. RECEIVE THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF JUNE 23, 1975 MOTION by Scott, seconded by Peterson, that the Planning Commission receive the minutes of the Parks and Recreation Cormni.ssion meeting of June 23, 1975. Mr. Peterson pointed out that the Parks & Recreation Commission was quite concerned that the �enior citizens are adequately funded. Mr. Bergman referred to the section of the minutes on tennis courts. He added that he had the impression that Grace High School and the City were under scme lease agreement and that they were available for public use �hi� summer. Mr. Peterson said that was true, and that included�the public school courts also. Mr. Bergman questioned as to that being true any longer. He said he thought that some private organization now had control of the courts. He added that the gates are locked at times, and that a group apparently had control of the padlock. The Planning Commission wished the Park Director to investigate the situation. UPON A VOICE VOTE, aZl voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 5. PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PROGRAM Mr. Boardman explained that one of the main objectives of the Planning Commission would be establishing goals and objectives of the community. By doing this, they Would be setting up a so called development framework. After the goals and objectives had been established, comprehensive planning for an extended time period would be done. He added that the Planning Commission should try to gear its policies closely with those of the Metro Council. �_ Mr.. Boardman handed out several informational sheets, one of which outlined specific areas of concern for each subcor�nission to work on. He explained that everything outlined on the sheet was a tentative layout. Mr. Boardman said that the member commissions would develop the initial policy to send to the Planning Commission. The Planning Commission would then have the responsibility to further develop and review those policies for the approval of the City Counc�il. The Planning Commission would be trying to establish what the needs are and then relate these needs to the goals and objectives of each commission. The subcommissions would also be �oncernedin the implementa�ion of the goals and objectives of the �omprehensive plan. . Mr.'Boardman said that the Goals and Objectives should go to Public Hearing by Januar.y 1, 1976. Therefore, each subcommission should have its goals and objectives �� back�to the Planning Commission by mid-September. Chairman Harris said that he would like a tentative schedule from each of the � Planning Commission Meeting - July 9, 1975 Page 5 Chairmen of the subcommissions by July 23, 1975. n . � Mr. Peterson suggested that a staff ineeting be held before the July 23r,d . Planning Co►�nission meeting to insure staff awareness. He added that the Community � Development Commission may wish to hold a meeting prior to their first scheduled � • meeting. .� �, Mr. Scott explained that the Human Resources Commission had already attended a meeting which included this subject. He added that the Human Resources Commission felt very confident in its understanding of this procedure. Mr. Boardman explained that more citizen participation was needed, It was presently very weak as far as citizen input. It was hoped that through the Public Hearing, citizen input would be increased. 6. MEETING TIME Chairman Harris referred to the Planning Commission meeting time. The meeting time seemed to be very confusing due to a misprint on the posted City Hall schedule. Mr. Boardr�an explained that due to deadlines for a newsletter sent to all Fridley citizens, meeting�times were set prior to finishing the reorganization struc�ure. This.•newsletterindicated that the meeting time for each commission would be at 7:30 P.M. If this w�re changed, it would lead to more confusion. It was decided that the Planning Commission would conduct its m�etings at 7:30 P.M. 7. ADOPT RULES MOTION by Scott, seconded by Peterson, that the Planning Commission adopt Robert's Ru1es of Order in so far as they apply to the spi'rit and intent of the Planning Commission. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. • , ADJOORNMENT: MOTION by Peterson, seconded by votP, a31 voting aye, Chairman Harris Ju1y 9, 1975 adjourned at .Z0:16 P.M. Respectfully submitted, lal ���`Z� Holly To sager, Secret y Drigans, to adjourn the meeting.. Upon a�voice declared the Planning Commission meeting of