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PL 01/19/1977 - 6602� �--_ ' City of Fridley AGENDA PLANNING COMMTSSION MEETING JANUARY 19, 1977 CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL• APPROVE PLANNING COM�IISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 5, 1977 1. PUBLIG HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED PLAT, P.S. #76-12, 7ARG T DITION, BY OP SH PPES OF AMERICA, INa: eplat of all of Lot 10, part of Lots 1 and 12, Auditor's Su6division No. 155, as per legal notice, generally located South of I:694, West of Highway #65, North of 53rd Avenue N.E., and East of the Target parking lot. 2. PUBLIC A SPECIAL USE soff drinks and a retai outlet, per Fridley City Code, Section 245.101, B, (3,b,}, on Lot 10, and parts of Lots 11 and 12, Auditor's Subdivision No. 155, located South of I. 694, West of Highway No. 65, North of 53r� Avenue N.E., and East of the Target parking ldt, the same being 785 53rd Avenue N.E. 3. CONTINUED: PROPOSED MAINTENANCE CODE 4. CONTINUED:=HUMAN DEVELOPMENT GOALS & OBJECTIVES 5. CONTINUED: SECURITY 60ALS & OBJECTIVES 6. RECEIUE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 11, 1977 [� 7. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COhA1ISSI0N MINUTES: �ANUARY 6, 1977 8. RECEIVE COhMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES: JANU0.RY 11, 1977 ADJOURNMENT: f '�. 7:30 P.M. PAGES 1 - 10 11 - 16 17 - 19 & 13 - 16 Separate 20 - 21 22 - 25 26-31 at meeting at meeting € y�`�cnY.>,-�v�^...- : ��.n p( �� . . f y f � f CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - JANUARY 19� 1977 PAGE 1 CALL TO ORDSft: Chairperson Aarris called the meeting to order at 7:l�8 P,M. ROLL CAI.L• Members Present: Harris, Bergman, Langenfeld, Schnabel, Shea Members Absent: Peterson Others Present; Jerrold Boardman, City Planner APPROVE PLANNING CANR4ISSION MINUTFS: JANOARY S, 2977 2�TION by Schnabel, seconded by Langenfeld, that the Planning Commission minutes of January 5, 1977 be approved as written. Upon a voice vote, all noting sye, the motion carried unanimously. 1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF-� PROROSID P%AT. P.S ewuiiivn� ui rvr uiavraavwr �u�u:u�i�n� ia.v. .cy�o.. ..0 � v� .. �..� part o£ Lots 11 and 12, Auditor's Siibdivision No. 155, as per legal notice, generally located South o£ I. 694, West o£ Highxay �/65, North of 53rd Avenue N.E., and East o£ the Target parking lot. MOTION by Langenfeld� seconded by Her�nan, that the Planning Commission open the Public Hearing on bhnsideration of a proposed plat, P,S. //76-12, Target Addition� by Pop Shoppes of America, Inc. Upon a voice vote, all voting �ye, Chairperson Harris declared the Public Hearing open at 7:53 P.M. Mr. Dmnett R. Albergotti� Real Fstate Negotiator £or Dayton Hudson Properties; Mr. John Zavitz of Pop Shoppes of America, Inc.; Mr. Bill Jaeger from Kraus Anderson of St. Paul Company; Mr. Jon Pope, architect for Plagerso McGee, Inc.; and Mr. Bob Harvey� Box 3764, Minneapolis� were present. Mr. Boardman directed the Conmdssion to turn to pages 15 and 16 of their agendas xhich shoxed the general location oi' where the replat was going to take place. He explained this ras East o£ the present Target parking lot, behind IInbers and the gas station� and would be divided into three separate lots. He said that this was to allow for two or three separate developments, and the larger lot on the North side o£ the property xas proposed £or Pop Shoppes of America. He stated that access into this area would be through private easement Yrom Target o£f of 53rd to service these three lots. Planning Commission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 2 Chairperson Harris asked iY this Was on part of the blacktop portion o£ the parking lot, and Mr. Boardman replied that the lots themselves were not, but the driveway easement would be on the Easterly end of the blacktop portion. Mr. John Zavitz explained that the head offices of Pop Shoppesoof America were in Denver, and there vere 19 other locations in the United States. He said they would be opening fourteen neyr centers this year, one o£ which was the 'Itrin Cities location. Mr. Zazitz said that basically what they xere trying to do xas deliver soft drinks to the public at lower than normal cost as they manufactured and retailed on the same premises. To date, he said, they have enjoyed quite a bit o£ success both in Canada and here, and were just beginning to scratch the surface in the U.S. market. He stated that to date they had been able to satisfyr all concerns with regasd to environmental issues, noise levels, etc., to the satisfaction of all City Councils. Aesthetically speaking, he continued, they did not look like a manufacturer, but a retailer. He told the Commission they sold 26 different flavors in two sizes� in plastic cases� and returnable bottles only. He explained that people could mix and match £lavors as they xished. Chairperson Harris asked what the zoning was, and Mr. Boardman replied it was C-2S and that was the reason they uere going xith the Special Use Permit on it. He euplained the operation of this type of shop would be similar to that o£ a dairy. He stated they mixed the so£t drinks at the plant and stored them there, but they had a major retailing operation £rom the store also so there xasn't a major handling of the shipping of the bottles. He said they xould ship to about three or four other retail stores in the metro area, but it was a major retail operation. Mr. Boardman said that all three of the parcels met the requirements as far as square footage under a C-23 zone and lot sizes vere adequate. He added that one of the stipulations they would xant to put on the plat would be some definition of roadrqy in the parking lot area itself. He said he had received a letter from Target on access that he vould like entered into the minutes. Chairperson Harris read the folloxing letter to Mr. Boardman, from Jack Franzen, Building Services Manager for Target Stores, dated January 19, 1977: In the event that the County Highx�r Department does gb ahead xith its planned improvements along $3� Avenue, specifically including the revised eastern most access routing into the Target Fridley parking lot� Target rrill define the access road xith curbings, plantings, or some other method acceptable to the City of FY�idley and Target. This is to promote more orderly traffic £low through the Target parking lot £acility. MOTION by Shea� seconded by Schnabel, that the Planning Cormnission receive the letter to Mr. Boardman from Mr. FY�anzen dated Janusry 19, 1977. Upon a voice vote, all voting �ve, the motion carried unanimously. Mrs. Schnabel noted that the proposed plat was to divide the property into three separate lots, and asked if the Special Use Permit would cover all three lots. Mr. Boardman exglained that the Special t3se Permit was for just the Northerly lot. He said that lots 10, 11 and 12 xere the existing lots, and they extended to Highzray 65. He explained that was sn old lot description PZanning Commission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Pege 3 on Target and xas only used as definition to shox xhere the nev plat would be. Ae said that actually it xould be platted out to lots 1� 2 and 3. Mrs. Schnabel asked if the other txo lots would remai.n vacant, and Mr. Boardman replied that xas correct. Mrs. Schnabel asked if it was necessary for Pop Shoppes to get some type of agreement yrith Target for use oP the roads, and Mr. Boardman said they would have to have easements drawn up £or use of the properties� and he thought that could be handled xith the platting. Chairperson Harris agreed it should go xith the final plat. Mrs. Schnabel asked about utilities in that area� and Mr. Boardman said that utilities would be sereiced to all three properties off of 53�. Mr. Jon Pope, architect, �plained that the xater xould be brought in off of 65 to the rear of the building. He said that a pole would be placed at the Southwest corner of the lot, and electrical power would be brought underground to the site. Chairperson Harris asked about the other lots, and Mr. Boardman said he would imagine it would be easier and better to have the water and sewer service for the other properties off o£ 53rd. Mr. Bergman said he expected sizeable xater requirements for this activi.ty and noted an eight inch xater line was planned. He asked if there xere any pressure or capacity problems i.n this location� and Mr. Boardman replied there vere not. Mr. Bergman said it vould appear that all the utility installations took place on private property so no easements would be involved� and Mr. Boardman said that was correct. Chai.rperson Harris asked i£ a drainage easement would be needed i.n there� and Mr, Boardman replied that the lqy of the land took care of it most�,� He explained that the drainage o£f of all three of these lots would be onto the Target parking lot xhere there were catch basins which would handle it. Mr. Bergman said he assumed that some kind of written agreement would be in order between Pop Shoppes and Target attesting that drainage was agreeable betfreen the tvo parties. He added that he thought it was more normal that any place o£ busi.ness xould take care of its oxn surface drainage rather than drain ofi somgplace else. Mr. Hoardman sa�d that xas the only vay they could handle the surface drainage� and pointed out that the catch basins in the Target parldng lot had the capacity to handle it irith no problem. Mr. Albergotti said it was handling it right nou. MOTION by Schnabel� seconded by Bergman� that the Planning Co�nission close the Public Hearing on consideration of a Proposed Plat, P.S. �/76-12, Target Addition� by Pop Shoppes of America. Upon a voice vote� all noting aye, Chairperson Harris declared the Public Hearing closed at 8:12 P.M. Mrs. Shea stated she had some reservations about this simply because of the intersection� and asked if the county had given a ti.metable regarding the planned improvements there. Mr. Boardman said that 53rd should hopefully be done this sw�uner. Mrs. Shea said she hated to see anything go in there unless something Was done with that intersection. Mr. Boardman explained that the improvements were being tied in xith the urbanization project from Columbia Heights all the xqy through� and there were presently some difficulties Planning Coimni.ssion Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page l� with Columbia Heights which xould hopefully be resolved before March. Mrs. Schnabel asked i£ that meant that iF there wasn�t an agreement by March nothing would be done at all, and Mr. Boardman said that was right. Chair- person Harris said he certainly hoped that didn't happen, and asked vhat the problem xas �rith Columbia Heights. Mr. Boardman explained the Highxay Depart- ment wanted to widen the road, but the local businessmen didn't want to lose the on-street�parking around l�Oth. He further explained that the urban- ization pro�ect went from 37th to 53rd, regardless of what community it was in, and i£ any part o£ that project fell through the xhole project vould fall through. Afrs. Schnabel asked why something couldn�t be done on 53rd by itself, and Mr. Boardman sai.d it xas because there wouldn't be any state monies for it. He added that if it was going to be improved by itself� that would be the county�s responsibility. Hrs. Schnabel said that it seemed to her that something should be done on 53� at a minimum, regardless if the other project fell through. Mr. Boardman said this was not to s�y that 53� wouldn't be done at a later date if that project failed, but it wouldn't be done this year. Mr. Bergman stated he thought the things they had been discussing rrere of some relative bearing, but not an overriding bearing, on the questmon o£ replatting the property. MOTION by Bergman, seconded by Langenfeld, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of Proposed Plat P.S, //76-12, Target Addition� by Pop 5hoppes of America, Inc.: Replat of all of Lot 10, part of Lots 11 and 12� Auditor's S�bdivision No. 155, a$ per legal notice, general�y located South of I. 69lt, West oP High�re�y �{65, North of 53rd Avenue N.E., and East of the Target parking lot, subject to a plan defining the accessxay extending to all three oF the proposed lots *,rith the authorizing signature Prom Target or its parent company. Upon a voice vote, all voting �ye, the motion carried unanimously. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SP&CIAL USE PFRMIT SP#76-16 BY POP FS 0 ICA C.: To permi e ot ing of soft drinks and a retai out e, per Fri ey City Code, Section 205.101� B, (3,0,), on Lot 10, and parts of Lots 11 and 12, Auditor�s Subdivision No. 155, located South of I. 69:t, West oY Highx� No. 65, North of 53� Avenue N.E.� and East of the Target parking lot� the same being 785 53rd Acenue N.E. MOTION by Langenfeld� seeondedbby Shea� that the Planning Commission open the Public Hearing on the request for a Special Use Permit, SP //76-16, by Pop Shoppes of America� Inc. Upon a voice vote� all voting a�ye, Chair- person Harris declared the Public Hearing open at 8:23 P.M. The same people were present as for the £irst Public Hearing. Mr. Boardman said that as was discussed before, Pop Shoppes Would be doing mi.xing of the pop� storage of that pop and retatl sales o£ that pop within Planning Commission Meeting - January 19, 19T7 Page 5 that building. He said that as far as they conld tell, it fell under the category of retail or wholesale sales or sernice uses, such as creameries and dairies, xhere there was the mi.xing o£ a product and storage of a product for retail sales. Cheirperson Harris stated he had a slight problem with that, and said it looked like either a M-1 or 7�2 use to him. Mr. Boardman said they had felt the retail operation of Pop Shoppes was more characteristic of C-2S zoning� and probably over 50',� of the retail sales in the metro- politan area would be handled out of this location. Mr. Zavitz stated that what they tried to do was manufacture and sell directly to the public. He said Pop Shoppes could be compared to McDonalds because their process was one �,rhere they took concentrate, mixed it with water and carbon dioxide, and bottled it for sale to the public for con- sumption off-premises. He said they aere specialists in soft drinks as opposed to hamburgers, and their bulk vras consumed off-premises. He added that they xere not at all different £rom a bakery or a Dunkin� Donuts chain for on-premises and off-premises consumption. Mr. Zavitz stated that they had never gone into a city where they hadn�t had to ansxer questions of this nature because there was no particular zoning anqwhere that he had found where they could just rralk in and operate because people didn�t recognize their particular use. He sai.d he thought the Commission was probably concerned with "degree"; xhat was manufacturing and wh�t was retailing. He stated that because they made something they �rere manufacturing. Chairperson Harris said that as he looked at the plan, he saw one sales area, one production area, and another area possibly 3- 1� times as large as the other two labeled "irarehouse". Mr. Zavitz ezplained that was mainly to hold the empties and the fhll bottles reac�y to move onto the floor. Mr. Boardman noted that under accessory uses it did allow £or storage of inerch- andise. Chairperson Harris asked i£ in the �ent this Went over �rell� and he assumed it would� if they would propose an expansion o£ this Yacility on this partic- ular property or iY they rould build another. Mr. Zavitz said they cou]dn�t get too much raore equipment in that area as they xere at their capacity, and they would generally build another one. He added that right nox their facility in Duluth was serving a 60-mile radius, and this proposed facility xould probably serve a 20-mile radius. Mr. Ber�nan asked i£ it was the intent to do bottling at this plant, do product sales� and from the bottling capacity also to ship product to other retail outlets. Mr. Zavitz said that was correct. He stated they would ship to their oxn specialty sources such as West St. Paul and Knoll- wood� xhere they vere buildi.ng free-standing stores. He showed the Commission a picture of one of their free-standing retail maskets. Mr. Boardman asked if they had any wholesale operation going out to supermarkets or other chain stores, and Mr. Zavitz said de£initely not as it was all an internal process. Mr. Bergman asked how many outlets this warehouse £acility was designed to service. Mr, Zavitz replied that depending on hox successful they were, Planning Commission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 6 they were planning on opening 1� - 6 outlets. He added that the plant was designed to make about a half million cases of soft drinks a year. Mr. La�genfeld asked iP there would be ar�yy non-returnable bottles, and Mr. Zavitz said there would be only returnable bottles, Mr. Langen£eld asked if they vould be using caustics, and Mr. Zavitz replied they would, but they xent through a recycling process. Mr, Langenfeld asked how they diaposed of the caustic material, and Mr. Zavitz answered that the caustic solution vas only 4� in their product; it xas a nery low percentage and it would go into the sewer system at some point. Mr. Langenfeld asked how long Mr. Zavitz thought the bottling machinery would be in operation during the day, and he replied that during the swmner they generally ran two shifts! five days a xeek, and in the rinter months probably one shift. Iie added that during the Christmas period they usually ran one shift or 1� shifts. Mr. Langenfeld asked hov noisy the equip¢nent Was, and Mr. Zavitz replied they had just met a decibel level of 65. He added they xere meeting both the 0.SHA and environmental controls. Mr. Langenfeld asked if some of the public vatched the bottling o£ the pop, and Mr. Zavitz replied that the bottling process xas in open view to the public and they invited schools to come in on tours to t.*atch the pop being bottled. Mr. Langenfeld asked about the xater treatment area desi�ated on the plans, and Mr. Zavitz explained that all of the plants had to have water treating equipment as it was part of the policy of the bottling plant. He said it was very simp]e filtration o£ city water. Mr, Langenfeld asked iY they would be using stainless steel tanks, and how many they would be using. Mr, Zavitz ansWered that they rrould only be using stainless ste�l, and there would be txo lt00 gallon tanks and txo 200 gallon tenks, Mr. Langenfeld asked if there would be somebody checking the bacteria count, and Mr. Zavitz said yes� very deYinitely. Ae explained that each week saraples vere sent to their lab in Denver� and they vere very critical about quality and their standards xere extremely stringent. Mrs. Schnabel asked what type of volume they expected with regard to retail sales and customers coming in. Mr. Zavitz stated they have gone from a grand opening in Bu£falo tvelve weeks ago xhere they sold 21,000 cases in two days, to areas where they had sold as fev as 7,000 cases in a week. He added that generally speaking� a customer vould usually buy 1� - 2 cases; on a Saturday they might sell 1,000 to 1,500 cases. He said it depended on the market and the time of year. Mr. Zavitz told the Coimnission that their customer flox was rapid as it only took about four minutes £rom the time they entered the parking lot to the time they left. Mrs, Schnabel stated that using the figure o£ two cases per customer' he was saying that an average Saturday might generate about 500 to 750 customers in a store. Mr. Zavitz replied that xas correct, and added that they were busy about the same time as Target and had about the same type of market. Mrs. Schnabel asked if they would be open approximately the same hours as Target� and Mr. Zacitz replied e�cactly the same. Mrs. Schnabel asked iP they had trucks that xould be doing the shipping to the other stores� and Mr. Eavitz said they would use a local broker to do it. w�� Planning Coimnission Meeting - January 19, 19%7 Pege 7 He said they had anywhere Prom Pour trucks a week in the winter to ten trucks a xeek in the summer, and they didn't have as many trucks as a normal grocery store would have. He co�ented that loading would be done in the rear and would be screened. Mrs. Schnabel asked hox many parking stalls would be required, and Mr. Boardman said that under C-2S it would be three stalls for every 250 square feet within the actual retail use area, under the storage area one stall for every 2,000 square £eet was required� and under the actual bottling area one stall for every 1t00 square feet would be required. Mrs. Schnabel said she xas concerned about the number o£ parking spaces available since the maximum in a day might be 750 cars, assuming there was just one customer per car. She said she was srondering if the 68 car stalls provided srould be adequate. Mr. Boardman said that the rapid turn-over rate of about four minutes per customer had to be considered. Mr. Zavitz said that in their experience they found it to be more than adequate, and it xas to their detriment not to have sufficient parking. He said that there might be two weekends when the parking wouldn't be adequate, but 95� of the time it vould be. He added that in the initial stages xhen they were educating the people about their operation it would take a little longer, but after that it would take about four mi.nutes. He said that they employed of£-duty policement during any special promotion. Mr. Langenfeld asked if they could £oresee ar�y drainage problems� and Mr. Boardman replied they couldn't. Mr. Langenfeld asked hox many employees they would have, and Mr. 2avitz replied they would have about six full-time people in the production area� txo in retail� two i.n accounting and general management, and approximately ten to fifteen part-time students. He said that they hired only local people, and the Gener�l Manager would be from the 1�ain Cities. He added that they tried to keep their work £orce down to a minimum force oP highly productive people. Chairperson Harris commented that it seemed he had heard this all before with Plywood Minnesota, and they vere in a M-2 zone. He asked how they justified this. Mr. Boardman said he didn't see Pop Shoppes in an industrial zone� but saw it more as a retail-type operation similar to a bakery. He said they were not a wholesale operation but a retai.l operation, and had to rely on a retail market. Mr. Harris asked vhat their justification was on Plywood Minnesota� and Mr. Boardman replied he didn't ]mow. Mr. Harris asked about Wickes� and Mr. Boardman said that the largeness o£ that operation vas probably the reason it was in sn industrial area. He sai.d they had a very, very large wholesale-retail-storage operation, and just merely the size of the thing was probably the reason. Mr. Langenfeld said that as Par as classification for this, he looked at it as a consumable product and not a finished product, thereby distinguishing it from heavy manufacturing and so on. Hr. Za*ritz sai.d that as he read the zoning� his operation related very directly to the dairy type o£ use. He said that was a£illing operation also, and a heavier manufacturing use than Pop Shoppes. Mr. Bergman said he saw the middle position of the type of activity they were talking about, it being in betxeen the tvo possible zoning categories. Planning Commission Meeting - Jsnuary 19, 1977 Page 8 He said that he thought of the txo, the Special Use Permit within the co�er- cisl was the better we�y to go. Mrs. Schnabel pointed out that under C-1 and C-1S zoning was listed bakeries, cafes, confectioneries, ice cream and soft drink shopes including the preparation of food products for retail sales Yrom their sites onl.y. Mr. Boardman said that eas the reason they xere looking at a Special Use Permit under G2S. Chairperson Harris asked where they would go if they needed additonal park- ing, and Mr. Zavitz said that they had 2.3 acres. Ae said that their normal site xas one acre� so there would be room to expand parking. He added that they wouldn't have to be prompted if they needed more. Mr. I.angenfeld asked hov long they had been in existence, and Mr. Zavitz replied since M�y of 1969. 1�1r. I,angenfeld asked about the subsidiaries� and Mr, Zavitz explained that Pop Shoppes Znternational vas oxned by the Canada Development Corporation which ovned Texas Gul£ and a number of other companies. He said the company that oxned 20� of Pop Shoppes of America� which was a subsidiary of P.S.I.� xas a compsny called Finasco which was the parent of S& W Foods, Progressive Foodei; a tobacco company� Tenderbox Chain of Smoke Shops, etc. He said they had other subsidiaries and a number of other trademarks. Mrs. Shea asked if enerything had been xorked out with F�nbers to their satisfaction, and Mr. Zavitz replied it had. MOTION by Langenfeld, seconded by Shea, that the Planning Co�ission receive the letter to Mr. Harris dated January 17, 1977 from Mr. Hyman Edelman concerning F2rtbers Restaurant, and the accompanying letters marked as Dchibit A and h7chibit B. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mrs. Schnabel noted a re£erence to a pylon sign in the letter to Mr. Birnberg from Mr. Albergotti dated January 5� 1977 (h7chibit B)� and asked if Pop Shoppes had a standaxd sign that they used for identification. Mr. Zavitz replied they did� and sfioxed the Commission pictures of xhat the sign vould look like. Chairperson Harris asked x�at size the sign would be, and Mr. 2avitz replied generally the largest allowable. He said that actually it xas usually a standaad 1t x 6� 21t square £oot sign. Mrs. Schnabel noted that in the past Target had made a request to raise their sign, end the request xas turned dotirn, so there may possibly be a restriction on height. Mr. Harris pointed out that although they could discuss this as part of the Special Use Permit, any signing done had to hane a special permit. Mr. Zavitz said he xas familiar with that, and would work with the sign people and Mr. Boardman on that. Mr. Bergman commented that administration had apparently gone over these plans to some extent, and asked if there should be any stipulations £or the Special Use Permit, such as deali.ng yrith the landscaping. Mr. Boardman Planning Commission Meeting - Jenuary 19, 1977 Page 9 said they hadn't gone over it in aqy great deal yet� but didn�t think they would have to stipulate it rith the Special Use Permit. i Mrs. Schnabel atated she did have some concern with the traffic flox, and was thinking more of the very busy times when perhaps the trai'fic from Target rould cut across the parking lot to the Pop Shoppe. She said there would be no interaal control of that traffic because the parking lot was not separated from the readr�y itself. Mr. Albergotti and Mr. Pope shoxed the Commission a map depicting the relationship betveen the Pop Shoppe building� the Target building, Hnbers Restaurant and the gas station. They pointed out a ring road vhich they said xould allow a good flow of traffic. Mr, Al�esgotti said that at one point they did have curbs in there but when there xas snox in the parking lot people couldn�t see them and drove over them and damaged their cars, so they raere taken out. He stated that if they put them in again they Would also put in landscaping and trees so they would be visable. Mrs. Schnabel asked if $3� wes imProved if they would implement a plan o£ traf£ic control, and Mr. dlbergotti sai.d that xas correct. She then asked what their intentions were i£ 53� was not improved, and Mr. AlbergotLi said they xould do something. He explained theie was money in their budget to do something, and it was just a matter of deciding how the improvement would be handled. He added that they vere also concerned with the traffic floW at that i.ntersection, and assured the Co�nission that Target would do something. Mrs. Schnabel asked if he vas talking about putting some type of barrier down each row. Mr. Albergotti said they xould be putting up barriers every so often, but not dom each row. He explained that at the end of each rov there would be a curb Srith landscaping to delineate that it was an access road. Mrs. Schnabel asked iY Dnbers had made any request, or if they anticipated us�ng another access dorm onto D�yton Hudson property. Mr. Albergotti sai.d he thought �inbers would like that very much, and they had asked D�yton Hudson to think in terms of a road connecting the properties. He pointed out that would make a vhole different situation where people xould be taking shortcuts through A}nbers, and he personally didn't think it stas a good idea. Mr. Harris commented that the grade differential vas consider- able� and asked if there �rould be a retaining wall. Mr. Albergotti said that xhen the hill xas graded dorm there yrould be a contoured landscaping. He said there was about 12' of dif£erence, but it xould be a gradual thing. Mr. Harris thought they might have to use a modified retaining wall. MOTION by Schnabel, seconded by Shea, that the Ylanning Co�mnission close the Public Hearing on the request for a Special Use Permit� SP #'76-16, by Pop Shoppes of America� Ina Upon a.voice vote� all voting aye� Chairperson Harris declared the Pub13c Hearing closed at 9;10 P.M. Mrs. Schnabel said she did have some concern on the zoning of this particular property, and was not sure that light manufacturing would fall under this definition. However, she said, she didn't necessarily see ar�y other vay to go on it. Chairperson Harris said he couldn't see an alternative either, and he thought they uere correct xith a Special Use Permit, -�,: . Planning Cotmnission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 10 Mrs. Schnabel said that aside £rom that� her other concern would be with the trafPic flow, and she felt fairly comfortable now that it would be pretty well taken care of. She said her biggest hope was that the State and the County xould get their act together and get that area improved. Mrs. Schnabel said she thought the bulk of the traf£ic going into there vould be pepple going to the Target area to begin rrith� and she didn't thi.nk Pop Shoppes would generate that much more additional traf£ic in itself. She added that if the internal traffic system was improved� that might improve the whole situation itself. MOTION by Schnabel, seconded by I.angen£eld, that the Planning Conunission recommend to Council approval of the request for a Special Use Permit� SP #76-16, by Pop Shopges o£ America� Inc.: To permit the bottling o£ soft drinks and a retail outlet, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.101, B� (3�0)� on Lot 10� and parts of Lots 11 and 12� Auditor�s Subdivision No i55, located South of I. 694� West o£ Highw�y No. 65� North of $3rd Avenue N.E.� and East o£ the Target parking lot� the same being 785 $31d Avenue N.E. Mr. Langenfeld suggested the folloving stipulations be included in the motion: 1) Strict compliance irith the terms of the ground lease regarding visibility restrictions (as stated in Exhibit B)� 2) Complete study done on retaining walls� and 3) Reasonable judgement be used as to traffic patterns in accordance with City Staff recommendations. Mrs. Schnabel said the only stipulation that she thought necessary xould be folloving the intent of the letters that were received.. She said that was not to say the others xeren�t important� but she thought the petitioner had indicated they intended to do those things in good £aith. Mr. Harris said he thought the grade change could be handled irith the building permit. Mrs. Schnabel AMENDED the I�fOTiON to include the stipulation that the intent oY the letters of agreement betxeen the Dnbers and Dayton Hudson be followed. Agreeable to Mr. Langenfeld. UPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting �ye, the motion carried unanimously. Chairperson Harris declared a recess at 9:20 and reconvened the meeting at 9:35 P.M. 3. CONTINUED: PROPOSID MAINTSNdNCE CODE Chairperson Harris said he had one ciiticism, and that was his copy was so bad he couldn't read it and there vere no page numbers. The Commission agreed they did not have very legible copies. Mr. Bergman said that he had read a portion o£ this and had arrived at the feeling that they still weren't in concert as to what the content of the maintenance code should be. He said he thought they had agreed they xere � �,: �, Planning Co�mnission Meeting - January 19, 197% Page 11 going to try to reduce this down by adheri.ng to the maintenance considera- tions o�11y, rather than construction, and yet whoever vas putting this together xasn�t following that. For example� he said� there was still a requirement in there that every room have a xi.ndow. Mr. Boardman said he didn't feel they had gotten that far. He said that at the last meeting it hAd been'dtseassed and the Commi.ssion wanted it broken down into a more clear direction. He stated they had put it into consistency and related it according to health and safety items; their efforts had been in the organization of the code for a more proper review. Mr. Bergman commented that he didn�t see a definition of maintenance in the proposed code. Chairperson Harris suggested that perhaps they could start with the introduction and take it section by section to get started on it someplace. Mr. Bergman said he thought they had agreed on a definition of maintenance, and he had looked for that de£inition as a gauge i.n the reviex. Mr. Laggen£eld said he had provided a definition at one point, The source vas the American Heritage Dictionary� he said, and the deYinition xas a) The action of continuing carrying on� preserving or retaining something b) �he vrork of keeping something in pmper condition. Mr. Ber�nan said he recalled Mr. Langen£eld reading that, and recalled himsel£ referencing another document xhere maintenance was described as the care and caretaking of that yrhich exists. He said it would then be out oP line to say someone had to put a window in a wall because maintenance means care for xhat already existed rather than build more. Mrs. Shea noted that the Building Easpector could set that aside� so there was a w�y out. Mr. Bergman said he thought a definition of maintenance belonged in the front of the code� and what follozred should be consistent xith that defin- f.tmon. Mr. Boardman said he thought it should be in a preamble or the opening statements. Mr, I,angenfeld stated that he thought the preaioble was redundant and suggested eliminating the first sentence to simplify and shorten it. Chairperson Harris noted that this preamble vas longer than the preamble to the constitution, and the xhole country vas run by that. Mr. Boardman said they Ware not only talking about maintenance, but blighted premises and structures harboring conditions dengerous to the public health, safety, and general xelfare oF the people. He said they were also saying that £aulty design or construction, failure to keep them in a proper state of repair, lack o£ adequabe lighting or ventilation, inability to properly heat� etc.� were causing this disproportionate amount of expenditure of public £unds for public health, safety and wel£are. Chairperson Harris questioned the last statement concerning public iluids� and asked i£ that was rthat they were really doing. Mr. Boardman said this referred to crime prevention, fire protection, and things like that. Mr. Harris asked if there xasn�t a window in somebody's wall� if they would be expending those iluids. Mr. Boardman stated it xas in the interest o£ public health, and Planning Cormnission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 12 xas required in the State Building Code for a reason. Mr. Be�gman said that then a house m�y exist prior to code (£or example by x�y of a"grandfather" c�use) that was acceptable from a building code construction control, but nov they were coming up with a maintenance code that said it was not acceptable. l�tr. Boardman sai.d what they were saying was because that structure existed the xay it xas and met code bedause it was "grandfathered" in, it may be a fire hazard. Since in xas a£ire hazard, he continued� there should be some repair work done to that so it was no longer a£ire hazard and there wouldn't be an expenditure of public monies for the protection of that structure. Mr, Bergman said that meant that somebody had to decide what was a fire hazard and what xasn't. He stated that Mr. Boardman xas defining the previous code that existed when that home was built as alloxing a fire hazard in its design. Mr. Langenfeld said he felt that Mr. Bergman had good points, but it seemed to him that in order to use this document they had to £irst go through it and condense it� and then after that go through it again and hit on those items that had been brought up. Chairperson Harris suggested skipping the preamble and moving on to the code� but Mr. Boardman said they should handle the preamble because it was the basis for the code. Mrs, Schnab�� asked if it was necessary to have a preamble, and Mr. Boardman replied that it was necessary to have a statement saying that they ]mew xhat they were going to talk about. For instance� he sai.d� if bhey were going to talk about the conditions dangerous to the public health, safety, and genera7. welfare, they had to Imow what those conditions were to be taken into consideration. Mr. Bergman stated he felt they should define what they meant by maintenance, in other words, the scope of this document. Mr. Boardman coirmiented that they xould probably have to rei+x�ite the entire preamble as far as the scope and what they were trying to accomplish with the maintenance. He asked i£ they xere trying to accomplish, vith the maintenance code� elimination oP conditions dangerous to puhlic health� safety and velfare. Mr. Bergman replied that i.n that broad of a context he would hace to say no. Mr. Board- man then asked the purpose of developing a maintenance code, and Chairperson Harris said it uas to insure the integrity of the residential neighborhoods. Mr. Bergman added they could accomplish that by putting an acceptable limitation on the normal deterioration end blight o£ the buildin¢s And facilities. Mr. Boardman asked i£ they rrere going to attempt to correct things that were wrong within the buildings, and cited an example o£ a stairw�y with no hendrails. He asked if that would be a maintenance item. Mr. Langenfeld said that in his opinion that would be a safety item. Mr. Boardman asked if they were going to talk about the safety and general wel£are of the public, because if eo, that was more than vhat Mr. Langen£eld�s dePinition of maintenance rtas. Mr. Boardman pointed out that if they went into safety in one area, they would have to go into it in other areas. Mr. Bergman asked if there iras any other code that would cover an item such as the handrails� and Mr. Boardman replied there vas not, Planning Commission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 13 Mr. Langenfeld said he didn't mean to sound harsh� but everytime they started on this code they bounced all over the place. He suggested that perhaps they could start on page 1 and hear everybody's co�mnents. Mr. Boardman explained that he xas talking about the preamble and whether they vanted to just handle maintenance and preclude safety items. Mr. Langenfeld said that in reference to the preamble� he thought that perhaps they could eliminate the first 7� lines and pick it up rrhere it started talking about Fridley only. He coimaented that he definitely felt that they had more than maintenance actually involved here� and they were going to end up talking about construction, maintenance, use, snd so on. He Pelt they should condense the preamble first and then talk about it. He added that he thought the last portion of the scope xas a bit severe� and he thought that the purpose was sufficient. Mr. Bergman commented that it was interesting he had marked his copy consistent xith xhat Mr. Langen£eld had just said. Mr. Langen£eld gave the Co�ission a further example by showing them his copy o£ the proposed code with his comments noted xhere he thought they could omit, simplify� etc., throughout the rest of the code. Mr. Bergman said he had started out the same way� and then it occu�d to him that he didn't imow what he xas doing� and that was when he got back to the definition item. He asked vhat they were going to address in this document as he found that in other concerns there xas a health code, safety code� construction code and maintenance code� snd they xere separate documents and each addressed different things. He noted that they had a mi�cture here and he didn't really lmow hov to deal xith that. Mr. Boardman stated that all the items in the proposed code dealt �rith construction and housing structure. �He said that there were certain things in construction that xere safety hazards--not only to the people who lived there but to the £ire Yighters i£ they were called in. Mr. Bergman suggested that perhaps they should call it Maintenance� Health and Sa�ety Code. Mr. Boardman said that perhaps the definition o£ mainten- ance is where it should be handled under this code, and suggested that maintenance xas m�intaining the structure for health and safety purposes. Mr. Bergman said that he didn't see hov they could come up irith a definition of maintenance that was in conflict srith the generally accepted and under- stood de£inition of the term. Mr. Boardman read the scope to the Con¢nission ahd noted that even that dealt vith more than xhat the simple de£inition of maintenance was. Mr. LangenYeld suggested renaming it Completed Structures Building Code as he could see where 'hnaintenance° was starting to throw this into different categories. Chairperson Harris commented that he thought i£ they did that they would get into trouble with the State Building Department because they Would see this as an attempt to circumvent the State Building Code. Mr. Boardman suggested that they get back to the subject of the preamble� and Mr. Bergman again suggested defining maintenance. l�irs. Schnabel said that maybe they should.go on the tact of xh�t the intent of the ordinance sras� and the intent was to prevent blighted areas from occurring as well as to protect citizenry in terms o£ health and safety £rom deterioration Planning Cotmnission Meeting - January 19, 197'] Page ].1� of dwellings within the city. Mr. Hergman asked Mrs. Schnabel if she would be iamforta6le with a°Maintenance" title then, and she replied she Would because she thought that pretty well defined what maintenance sAOUld be. Mr. Bergman said he couldn't see a maintenance code telling an oxner that he must now put up a railing on the stairway or a xindox in a xall� consid- ering that when he had bought the house it had met any code stipulations. Mrs. Schnabel said that they mi.ght come to those sections in the proposed code and then delete them i£ they didn't £eel they fell T+ithin what the intent of the code xas. Chairperson Harris stated that in his mind, a maintenance code was to maintain status quo--keep things the xav they vere. Mrs. Schnabel and Mrs. Shea disagreed xith that definition. Mr. Harris said that rrhat they were talking about in somear�� xas an upgrading code; upgrading the structure by adding vindoxs or stairw�y railings� etc. He said that to him mainten- ance xas keeping the structure the way it was when it xas built. Mrs. Schnabel said that a structure may have been built such a long time ago that the construction of it, by today�s stsndards, vas not adequate. Mrs. Shea said she felt that maintenance xas maintaining a building so it vas safe and healthy. Mr, Harris said that then that would mean upgrading it in some areas. Mr. Boardman s�ed that Mrs. Shea was saying that maintenance xas maintaining a building in a health situation, and to do that the upgrading may have to happen. Mr. Harris said he felt that xas more than maintenance. Mr. Langenfeld said he felt the whole intent of this was to be a Structural Deterioration Preventive Code, and suggested that as a possible title. He said then they could touch on maintenance, safety, etc. MOTION by Langenfeld, seconded by Shea, that the Planni.ng Commission rename the proposed Maintenance Code "Structural Deterioration Preventine Code". Mrs. Schnabel asked if he was speaking of all structures vhether they were comm�rcial, residential� or whatever, and Mr. Langenfeld replied that the ii�tent o£ the motion referred to dwellings in the "R" districts. Mr. Langenfeld AMENDED the MOTION to read ^Residential Structural Deter- ioration Preventive Code", Agreeable to Mrs. Shea. Mr, Bergman said that he appreciated Mr. Langenfeld�s good intentions, but he would have to vote against the motion. He felt that "Maintenance" was the proper and correct title to put on this document and felt they should adher to that. Mr. Langenfeld co�nented that if they did that, much of the document would have to be elimin�ted. UPON A VOICE VOTE� Langenfeld and Shea voting aye; Harris, Bergman and Schnabel voting nqy� the motion failed 3- 2. MOTION by Bergman� seconded by Schnabel� that the Planning Coimnission insert in the Preamble and adopt the definition of the term "maintenence" Planning Commission Meeting - January 19, 1977 PgBe 15 as applicable to the proposed Maintenance Code as £ollows: a) The action of continuing carxying on� preserving� or retaining something b) The work of keeping something in proper condition. Mr. Bergman read the Preamble to the Co�ission as he suggested it would read, deleting the xhole first sentence, eliminating "lack of adequate lighting or ventilation"� and after the xord °City" merely adding the definition o£ "Maintenance". He said he felt that would be reasonable content. Mr. Langen£eld stated he iras in �ull agreement xith striking the £irst sentence, but couldn't go along with eliminating °lack of adequate lighting or ventilation" because that xas in the preamble to make the reader aware that these conditions can and do e�cist. He explained that was just creating an axareness o£ a situation. Mr, Boardman said he thought one thing was being left out, and that was a statement of rrhat they were trying to accomplish. He said that was the purpose o£ the Preamble, and it should state what they were trying to do r*ith the code. He explained that the first seven lines were a statement of £inding� and the Preamble should also state what they xere trying to declare and what the purpose o£ the ordinance was. Mr. Boardman said that if they had to go into court r�rith this� they would have to have a solid statement of reason as to why they were getting into this. Mr. Langen£eld said that as far as he was concerned� they had that in the last half of the existing Preamble. Ae added that one of the things that was bad about ordinances was that they had so many srords they couldn't be interpreted, Mr. Bergman said that if they were to pursue the motion� some of this would really be awk�.rard. He asked if lack of maintenance of an existing building would really necessitate excessive and disproportionate expenditures of public iluids £or public health� public safety� crime prevention� fire protection� and othar public services� thereby causing a drain upon public revenue and impairing the eff3cient and economical exeacise of governmental functions. Chairperson Harris said he didn�t think they could prove that. Mr. Boardman said that because of these conditions it may be necessary to expend more police time. He said that if an entire area was deterioration and conditons were such that maintenence was in poor condition, more police time would probably be expended in that area. He sai.d that he was sure a lot of this xas smitten up under that premise--that more police time vas spent in areas xhere there vas deterioration and more blight because the oonditions srere such that they allo�red more criminal activity. He added that the same may be foand xith the fire department in tt�se areas. Mr. Ber�nan stated he thought part o£ xhat Mr. Boardman vas saying had some truth to it, but it was greatly overdone. He said he thought one thing that was lacking here was a statement to the effect that they xere concerned about this because blight expands and is Found to be the cause of additmonal blight. Planning Commission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 16 Mr. Boardman said they had to have in the Preamble some kind of statement of finding to ahow xhy they had this code; for instance, for protection of public safety, health� and welfare, and £or the disproportionate amount of public Yunds being spent and mqybe even for sesthetic reasons--£or the up�ading of the �eneral character oY the City. Mr. Bergman suggested that he change the motion to include the organization of the �reamble and the general approach used� but to add a de£inition of "maintenance" as applicable to this document. Mr. Boardman said he thought the definition of maintenance xould be more appropriate in the Scope than in the Preamble, and the Coimnission agreed. Mr. Bergman AMENDID the �4TION to change, rrithin the Preamble, the word „dangerous" to °detrimental"� and to delete the phrase "lack of adequate lighting or ventilation". Mrs. Schnabel stated that she couldn't second that. She eacplained that he had added deleting the phrase "lack o£ adequate lighting or ventilation" after she had seconded the motion the first time, and she really didn't agree wi.th that. Mr. Bergman AMII�IDED the MOTION as £olloxs: Th6t the Planning Con¢nission accept 220.02 Preamble of the proposed Maintenance Code, changing the Word "dangerous" to "detrimental". Agreeable to Mrs. Schnahel. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting �ve, the moti� carried unanimously. Mr. Langenfeld said that he vould like to see the Commission continue to go through the document and make notations, as he had shos+n everyone, and see vhat they could do on that basis. He added that he felt they had spent enough time on this for tonight. Mrs. Schnabel suggested that i£ anyone cared to change any of the vording in any way, that they come to the meeting with their new language r�rritten out so they could perhaps proceed a little quicker. Mr. Bergman said he xould like to suggest that they also attack "Scope"� and Chairperson Harris agreed. Mr. Harris asked if they wanted to incorpor- ate the maintenance definition in Scope. Mr. Boardmara commented that he wondered if "maintenance" shouldn't be under De£initions, and noted that under objectives there was a kind of definition of maintenance. He asked what the Conm�i.ssion's feelings xere on that. Mr. Bergman said he felt it was proper to call this a Maintenance Code� and the definition of that term was really �rkat the Scope xas all about� and that is Khere it should be. He said that he would suggest further that it could be repeated back in Definitions, but it was really basic to understanding the Scope. MOTION by Bergman� seconded by Langenfeld� that what is described under Scope iri the Fridley Residential Maintenance Code be deleted and replaced srith "The provision of this 0rdinance shall apply uniformly to the mai.ntenance of existing structures and £acilities, xhere applicable�, Maintenance as applicabla in this document is defined as Follows: a) The action o£ Planning Conunission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 17 continuing carrying on, preserving or retaining something b) The work of keeping something in proper condition. Upon a voice vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Shea� seconded by Langen£eld� that the Planning Coimnission continue the Proposed Maintenance Code until the next meeting. Upon a voice vote� all voting sye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Ber�nan said it was his impression that with that motion as the Scope, drastic things would happen to this document, mainly in the form of dele- tions. Mr. Boardman stated that he would have to digest that and would see what xould happen. !�. CONTINUfiD: HUMAN DEVELOPMENT GOAI.S AND OBJECTIVES Mr. Boardman ssid that they had gone through this briefly at the last meeting and there had been a motion to continue so it could be properly reviered, and now he xas open for questions. MOTION by Schnabel� seconded by Ber�nan, that under DI�10 the xord "mothers" be changed to "parents°, and 'kromen and children" be deleted and "all citizens" added. Upon a voice vote, all voti.ng �e, the motion carried unanimously. MOTION by I.angen£eld� seconded by Shea� that under D1i20 the Words •in order" and °mor� be deleted. Upon a voice vote� all voting �ye� the motion carried unanimously. Mrs. Schnabel noted the words "rrithin the Metro /lrea" under D51i0, and asked if it xas the responsibility oY the City oY F�idley to pmmote a better understanding of minorities xithin the Metro Area. Mr. Boardman said he xas trying to bring out the responsibility of the City as a broader unit than just the City itself; it did have a responsibility to the metropolitan area also as a neighbor. Chairperson Harris asked yrhy they were limiting it to the metro area� azsd suggested it read "Promote a better understanding of minorities and encourage programs vhich provide opportunities for their developanent in society." MOTION by Schnabel� seconded by Shea� that the words "within the Metro . Area" be deleted from D$l�0. Upon a voice vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unenimously. MOTION by Isngenfeld� seconded by Shea, that the words "a better" be deleted from Program Objectives D510, D520, D530 and D5�0. Upon a voice vote, all voting sye, the motion carried unanimously. 5. CONTINUID: SECURITY GOAIS AND OBJECTIVFS Mr. I.angenfeld read Goal Statement S100� and said the £irst thing that came to his mind was� ^how?". He said it just seemed like an impossible Planning Coimnission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 18 statement to make. "civil rmongs". Mr. oY the individual". civil wrongs, etc. Chairperson Harris said he had trouble �rith the term Langenfeld suggested�just saying "Assure the security He said that "secuiity" xould involve criminal acts, Chairperson Harris said that with the term "civil rrrongs" in that statement he got the feeling they xould be asked to choose up sides in a neighborhood disagreement; i.e., kids running through a garden, etc. Mr. Hoardman said that he fras thinking more in terms of wrongs of the justice system itself. In other wozds, he said, discrimination against the civil liberties of a person. He said they would try to £ind a better term, and suggested "civil injustice". Chairperson Harris suggested that they think about it as he couldn�t think of anythi.ng offhand. ' MOTION by Langenfeld, seconded by Schnabel, that under 5110 the second "that" be eliminated; and under S120 the word "national" be changed to "natural". Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unan- �unously. MOTION by Langenfeld� seconded by Schnabel� that the words "all elements oP" be deleted under S150. Upon a voice wte, all voting �ve, the motion carried unanimously. Mrs. Schnabel commented that she aould like to lmow hox they could get the justice system to respect the public; she didn't think it was possible. Mrs. Schnabel asked if there should be an objective Which included inform- ing the citizenry of safety programs available to them, such as Operation Identification, etc. She also wondered if something should be written in that would include the services that were available to people in times of trouble� such as the Poison Control Center, YES� Suicide Prevention� etc. Mr. Boardman read Program Objective 5130 to the Cormnission, and said that he thought they rrere talking about that type of thing in there. He added that information on that type of thing xould be included under Policy Development rather than Objective. Mr. Boardman pointed out that on page 23, the Program Objective should be 5210 instead oY 5200. Mr. Langenfeld said that regarding page 21�, he would like to Imow how security got invo7.ved with environment. Mr. Boardman said it meant securing the environment £or the residents. Mr. Langenfeld read Program Objective S330� and said he would like to see "and eliminate" deleted. Mr. Ber�nan suggested it read "Eliminate or control...". MOTION by Langenfeld that the words "and eliminate" be deleted from 5330. Motion died for lack of a second. Mr. Bergman said that he would like to comment on Goal Statement 5300, which said "Assure the conservation and improvement of the envirorunent..." He said he didn't imow how improvement could be assured, even as a goal. ��..:; . Planning Commission Meeting - January 19� 1977 Page 19 He added that he would think that assuring the conservation xas more what they were talking about. Mr. Bosrdman stated that it was the con�inuation of the conservation that exists� plus improvement on the existing situation. He said that could be assured through evaluating problems o£ air, water and noise control policies� pollution abatement policies, renewable and non- renexable resources and preservation o£ natural habitats. Chairperson Harris asked if Program Objective S311t, Preservation of natural habitats, would eliminate construction. Mr. Boardman said it would not as it didn't sqy "all" natural habitats. MOTION by Bergman� seconded by Langenfeld, that Program Objective s33o be changed to read "Eliminate or control disease-carrying pests, noxious weeds and harmful insects". Upon a voice vote, all voting sye� the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Langenfeld read SIy�D to the Coimnission, and said to him that just meant getting the victims to the hospital as quickly as possible. Mr. Boardman said they rrere referring to a natural disaster and the control and policing bf the area so the victims could get back to their everyday, normal life pattern as quickly as possible. In other words, he said, a clean up and that type of thing after a tornado. Mrs. Schnabel said she didn't understand the term "activities". Mr. $oardman said this meant the normal functional activities o£ the city in general� such as businesses returning to a normal pattern o£ activities. Mr. $ergman said he xould have thought tvo dif£erent words xould have been used: instead of "victims", use "casualties"; and instead of "activities", use "facilities". Mr. Boardman suggested eliminating "victims end activities" and substituting °conditions". MOTION by Schnabel, seconded by Bergman, that Program Objective S1�30 read as follows: Help £acilitate the return of conditions to a suitable productive state as quickly as possible.. Upon a voice vote, all voting �ye� the motion carrie�3unanimously. 6. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 11, 1977 MOTION by Schnabel, seconded by Langenfeld� that the Planning Commission receive the Appeals Co�oission minutes of January 11� 1977. Mr. Langenfe�d noted that the Appeals Commission xas still going after the economic feasibility versus hardship question as well as the devaluation problem. He commented that he hoped they got some help soon. Mrs. Schnabel said she had received no response yet. Mrs. Schnabel brought to the Commission's attention the second to last paragraph on page 6 0£ the Appeals Commission minutes. She said she was amused tonight to see that Pop Shoppes had a xhole book of signs, and the man had said they wuld pick the largest one they could. She stated that was exactly xhat Mrs. Gabel had discovered� and they should be aware o£ this. Planning Commission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 20 UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unenimously. MOTION by Langen£eld that the second to last paragraph on page 6 of the Appeals Commission minutes be included in the Planning Corrunission minutes of January 19th so the word could get around and a few more people could be informed o£ the findings of the Sign Ordinance Committee. Mre. Schnabel commented that the City Council should be reading the Appeals Connnission minutes anyway, as they went directly to Council. Mr. Langenfeld WITHDREW THE MOTION. 7. RECEIVE HUMAN RFSOURCES CAI�4ffSSI0N MINUTES: JANUARY 6, 197% MOTION by Langenfeld,_secarided:bg Shea� that the Planning Commission receive the Human Resources Cominission mi.nutes o£ January 6, 1977. Upon a voice vote, all voting sye� the motion carried unanimously. Mrs. Schnabel said she xould like to coirmient that she felt it was a shame that the Planning Commission didn't receive these minutes until the night o£ their meeting as they didn�t have the time to go through them. She noted that these minutes were taken January 6 and weren't included in the packet� yet the Appeals Commission minutes vere taken January llth and were included. She said she realized the secretary had a tremendous amount of minutes to go through in this case, but thought it was unfortunate they didn�t have the opportunity to read them all the way through because she felt there xas probably a lot of interest- ing material in them. Mrs. Shea said that she had requested that these minutes xait until the next meeting so they could be included in the booklet. Mr. Langen£eld commented that the same thing happened almost all the time with Fhvironmental Quality Control mi.nutes. He said that when something like that happened� it was his assumption that the Chairperson would indicate any highlights. 8. RECEIVE COMMIJNITY DEVEI,OPMENT CONAffSSION MaIUT�: JANUARY 11, 1977 MOTION by Bergman, seconded by Langenfeld, that the Planning Commission receive the Community Development Commission minutes of January 11, 1977. Upon a voice vote, all noting aye� the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Bergman said that in their meeting xith the Bikew�v/Walkway Committee they disgassed many things� and on page 6 identified items o£ concern or consideration. MOTION by Bergmart� seconded by Langgs£eld� that the Planning Commission pass on to Council the following concerns that xere raised during the Bikeway/Walkway Implementation: Plsnning Commission Meeting - January 19� 1977 Page 21 1. The suggestion to identifjr a selected advertised bike day. 2. To reviefr the route and intersection problem at Highxay 65 and 53rd Avenue. 3. The concern for other major intersectional crossings. !�. The suggested widening of sidewalk where bikexay joins same. 5. Commission unanimity against state licensing. 6. Request £or directional armzrs on bike routes. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Bergman said he had come to this meeting intending to malce a motion to get secretarial help £or the Sign Ordinance Co�mnittee, but he saw that had already been taken care of, OTHE�t HUSINESS: Mr. Boardman brought the Commission up to date on xhat had happened with the fiast River Road Project Committee. He said that on October 6th the Planning Cotrmiission sent down to the member Commissions the Parkway Development Plan; on November l�th Human Resources acted, on November 9th Community Developanent acted, and on November 15th Parks and Reoreation acted. He stated there had been no action taken by the Planning Commission on those responses, and suggested that they respond at the next meeting. Mr. Boardman informed the Commission that concer6ing the "baby" for the Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation Prograzns, Bob Hughes had attended that City Council meeting and said they did not need that for the �idley Fire Department. Chairperson Harris said he had talked to Mr. Hughes about a veek ago and £ound that thaiproblem xas they did not have the electronic recorder £or the "baby". They needed the recorder� he said� to tell Dhem if the resuscitation was being done correctly to sustain human life� and that particular piece of equipment cost about $900 to $1,ID00. Mr. Harris stated that he thought this program was of utmost importence, and this vas where the City should provide a service. He said that if it cost $1,�00 Yor a recorder, he thought that was what they ought to have. MOTION by Langen£eld� seconded by Bergman� that the Planning Coir�ission recomnend to Council the purchase of the electronic recavder to be used for the education o£ the citizens o£ Fridley. Upon a voice vote� all voting qye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Boardman said concerni.ng the request made by the Planning Commission for recornmendations from City Staff on the intersection of 53rd and Central Avenue, they had two recommendations. He sho�red them to the Commission and eacplained the differences. Chairperson Harris asked how much lend they z.rould have to take to accomplish this, and Mr. Boardman replied it would be a strip about 200� long by 66". He added that they were talking in terms of a project cost of around $10�000 -$12,000� and . _ � ,.. Planning Co�mnission Meeting - January 19, 1977 Page 22 that was for the actual construction. He said that if they had to acquire the property it would be the acquisition on top of that. Chairperson Harris commented that it would certainly improve things, and asked that this be put on the agenda for the neact meeting vith all the pertinent inPormation included. MOTION by Bergman, seconded by Langen£eld, that the Planning Commission continue the discussion of the proposed improvement at the intereection of 53rd and Central Avenue until the next meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Lengenfeld, seconded by Bergiaan, that the meeting be adjourned. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Harris declared the Planni.ng Coimnission meeting o£ January 19� 1977 �journed at 12:00 A.M. Respectflilly sutunitted, /�)7 /% B/Tl7i / ( % Ms011i Sherri 0'➢onnell Recoxding Secretary � � �: � ���� _ _ ���� - - _--�,. - _ _ ___ _ _��/9 /y�7 . _ _ _ ��-' f� _ �: � �� �`?%-� � <-✓1.t�1 ��/ �����C�°-O,�/'l S7�G�Yl/ .(�(��itJ 1��a���1 E�S �G� �� � Z A � r r Z_ /t �'/ :��t�1��t,o o�,G�C.�t � Q�iG. �1/h�%.3�/1 �%Q, r T�raus�r�v��rso� a� J`�7` ou/ Ca_ _ � �. �6 .� �a � � Pl ���°l�L� • �p�n/ / !�t A r v� y � .�7�� �UYiy�?e�� ('G �/ 1 �� , __ _ -- �.= , ' _'-`�,.. � 1 �