PL 12/07/1977 - 30481�`
CITY OF FRIDLEY
YLAIVNTP�G COMMISaION ME�TING
DrCrT;MDER 7, 1977
CALL TO ORDFR:
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Chairperson Har•ris called the December 7, 1977, Planning
Commission meeting to order at 7:31 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Storla, Oquist, Harris, Schnabel, Langenfeld
Peterson
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVE PLANNIPIG COMI`�gISSION MTNUfiES• NOSJIl`�B�R 2, 19�7
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, that the
Planning Commission approve the November• 23, 1977, planning
Commission minutes as �vriicten. Uvon a voice vote, a11 voting
aye, the motion carried un�nimou�ly. The minutes were approved
at 7; 33 P sM•
TENANT/LqNDLORD COAZMiSSION
Mr. Sterla announced tha.t the Tenant/Landlord Commission that
was a sub-committee of the Human i�esource Commission tivould
�; have � vresentation on Monda�*, Dece�nber 12, 1977, in the
Classroom, starting �t approximately 8:00 P.M. He said that
t h e y w o u l d be discussing ��r hat type of polic;� the lan�lords
could adopt in order to lower the crime rate in their rental
units. He indicated �hat someone from the State Planning
Commission and someone from the State Housing Association
would be giving a slide presentation regardi�ng tvhat the renters
could c�o to help lovrer the crime rate within their rental units.
He encouraged anyone that v�ould be interested to attend the
meeting. .
1. CONTTNiTED: PUBLIC �HLARING:� �REZC�NING RE�UEST, ZOA #77-OCF,
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80 FLLT OF LOT 6, AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION N0. 25, LYING
EASTERLY OF THE NORTHEASTERLY RIGHT OF j'JAY LINE OF THE
OUTER DRIVF OF THE STATE TRUNK HIGH?'�AY #65, AND �V.CST OF
A LINE ��53, 20 FEET ti'�EST OF THE EAST I,INE GF SAID LOT 8,
.AS M�ASURED AT RIGHT ANGLES T0, r11�TD PARAI,LEL 41ITH, THE
EAST LINE OF SA�D LOT 6 FROM R-3 (GENERAL MUI,TiPLE FAMILY
DdvELLINGS), T� CR-1 (GENERAL OI'FICES AND LTMITZD BUSIN�SSES)
THE SAME BEING 961 HILL�JIND ROAD N.E. (Public Hearing
open) . .
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Mr. Boardman explained some of the items that had confused the
Planning Commission at the November 23, 1977, meeting. i"�
He said that one of the plats that they had been shown had never
been filed and he indicated to the members the plat that they
should study. On the approved plat, Mr. Boardman, explained
the exact lots that ivere involved.
Mr. Boardman indicated that if the road is ever put in that
it �vould connect to Fillmore�he vras speaking of the Polk
Street extension).He said that depending on how the area
in question actually develops, it cras possible that Polk Street
would form a cul-cle-sac. He said that it was not foreseeable
that anything constructed on Polk Street NE v�rould be made
accessable from Hill�vind Road.
Mr. Boardman said that another problem in the area �vas the
configuration of Hill���ind and also the configuration of the.
lots. He said that at some point in time, they rrould probably
be getting a replat of the area.
Ch.airperson Harris asked if all the lots in question vuere under
one otivner.
Mr. Boardman said that there vvas raultiple ownership in the area.
Mr. Boardman explained the zoning of the entire area.
Chairperson Harris specifically ti;�anted to knotiv the zonings of
the lUausau Homes building and the Real Estate 10 lots.
Mr, Boardman said that the ti7ausau Homes building tivas zoned R-3
and that the Real Estate 10 lot was the only lot in the area
that had been zoned G�-1. He said that it tivas zoned CR-1 in
197�.
Ms. Schnabel asked if there v°rould be a chance that the Planning
Commission �rould be hearing any more requests for rezonings
from anything else that tivould go on Hilltirind Road.
Mr. Boardman said that this request was the last property going
up Hillwind, due to the steep inclines further up Hillwind.
Chairperson Harris asked if the Staff had any objections to the
request.
Mr. Boardman said that they had no problems �vith the request.
He said that he felt it �vas as good of a use for that lot as
any. He didn�t feel that it �vould be detrimental to the area.
He indicated that they proposed a rJell designed building that
v�ould fit ti�rell into the area.
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Chdirperson Harris asked if the lot met all the requirements
for a CR-1.
Mr. Boardman said that it was a larger lot than Real Estate 10
had; and, yes, it dic� meet all the requirements.
Mr. Oquist expressed concern of the tra.ffic problem on the
intersection of Hi�hv�ay �#65 and Old Central Avenue. He tivanted
to knovr if this t�pe of operation tiaould negatively effect
that already conjested intersection.
Mr. Boardman explained the proposed traffic pattern. He said
that basically that type o� operation didn't generate that
much tra.ffic.
Ms. Schnabel asked if tile �roposed parking lot could be made
accessabl� from Polk StrEet.
Mr. Boardman said that it could be a possibility. He said,
that again, since that type of operation c�idn't usually
produce tha.t �uch traffic th�t it tvouldn�t be that important
to try to keep ihe Sundial Realty traffic off of Polk Street.
Ms. Schnabel asked abnut the setixrer and zvater easements for
the Sundial Realty Company,
Mr. noardman said that the se�ver �aould be off of Polk Streei; NE
and zliai the yrater rrould be from Hillc�ind Roade
P�fOTIOPt by Ms. Schnahel, seconded by Mr.
the Public He�rino. Upon a voice vote,
motion carried unanimously. The public
at 7:59 p,I�I,
Langenfeld, to close
all voting aye, the
hearing tivas closed
MOTIOIV by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Storla, that the
Plann?ng Commission reca�►mend the approval of the rezoning
request, ZOA �77-04, by Sundial Realty Company; R�zone that
p�rt of the TTorth 80 feet of Lot 6, Auditor�s Subdivision
No. 25� lying easterly of the northeasterly right of tiray line
of the outer drive of the State Trunk High�vay ;�65, and t�Jest
of a line �253.20 feet vJest of the east line of said Lot 8,
as measured at ri ht angles to, and parallel ti�rith, the east
line of said Lot �� from R-3 (General Multiple Family Dtivellings),
to CR-1 (General Offices and Limited Businesses), the same being
961 Hilltvind Road N.�o ti;rith the stipulation that the rezoning
is tied to the issuance of the Building Permit as per the plan
th�t had been submitted to the Planning Commission.
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Chairperson Fiarris explained that the reason for the stipulation
vras "just in case�� something happened in the interim that
�vould make it impossible for the petitioners to do what they �
planned tirith that lot. Fie said that it ���ould be possible, ���ith
the CR-1 Zonin� to put some other type of establishment on
that lot that ��ra�ld noi be desirable for the area.
r7r. Langenfeld indicated that after receiving the needed
informa.tion from Mr. Boardman, that even thou�h it is, in a
sense spot rezoning� he didn�t ieel it �vould be a hinc�erance
to the particular area. He said that the type of rezoning and
construction ��ould be compatible tivith the area.
M�.. Boardman was not in complete agreement with the stipulation
put on the request.
Cha:i.rperson Harris said that it only indicated that the second
reading af the Rezoning Ordinance e�ould be held until the
issua.nce of the Building Permit.
Mr. Langenfeld said that the purpose of the stipulation was
to lae sure that that type of building �vent into the area and
not something else that may be less desirable.
Mr. Boardman read to tlie Planning Commission all the uses
that could. be in a CR-1 Zoning. He said that, supposedly�
all the uses of a CR-1 tiJOUld be cor�patible �rith the area.
Ms. Schnabel said that she did not intend to vote aye for
this motiono She explained tliat she felt that the requested
construction �vould only add to the vast confusion already
in existance along Hilly�ind Road. She said th�t the
construction of the Sunclial Realty Com�any �+rould only add to
the "clutter" of the area. She ti�ranted it to rer�ain as an
R-3 Zoning and she lras not in favor of the ��spot rezoning".
Mr. Boardman felt that the stipulation vrould infringe on the
rights of the petitioner.
Upon a voice vote, Storla, Oquist, Harris and Langenfeld
voting aye; Schnabel voting nay� the motion carried.
Mre Jim Villella of 5323 Matahorn Circle (representing Sundial
Realty Company) asked permission to address the Planning
Commission.
P�Ir. Villella said that they rrere spending a lot of money
on the property. FIe said that a lot rrith a CR-1 7oning was
a valuable piece of property. He said that they had also
spent a lot oic money on the plans for the buildi�g and �hey
were going to try to go throu�h ���ith their proposed plans.
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Mr. Villella indicated that �'thing��' could happen. fIe said
that they were purchasing the property contingent upon the�
� rez�ning to CP,-1. He said that should anythin� happen to
� the plans for their Real �state Office and they vrould have
to sell that lancl or build something else; and if they rrere
not able to builc� anfthing except a Rea1 Estate office, They
could be out a lot of money.
Chairperson Harris indicated that their request was to build
a certain Real Estate office on that particular lot. He said
that all the Plann.in•� Commissian i�ias doing ��ras that in good
faith they apply and take out a building permit preceeding
the second reading of the Ordinance that rrould make it final.
He indicated tha.t if i-Zr. Villella intcnc�ed to build something
else� then he should have said that �arlier. P�r. Harris sa�d
that the s-tipulation merely ind�cated that they h�d to construct
the building that they had shotired the Planning Commissiono
Mr. Boardman indicated that the.Planning Commission�s stipulation
on �he property vras �hat they did ap�rove the rezoning r,rith
the stipulation tha.t the second reading of that rezoning
be held uritil the Building Permit �ras issued for that proposed
building. He s�.id that it di,dn�t indicate that after they
constructed the building that they couldn�t sell the building;
it merely indicated that the building could only be used for
the purpose indicated for a CR-1 zoning.
� Chairperson Harris said that the Planning Commission s�rantecl
, th«t building, on that lot, and only used for the purpose
a11c�tiJed under a CR-1 Zoning�
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Mr. Oquist explained that that particular piec�e of property
lvould not be rezoned until Sundial Realty takes out a Building
Permit.
Chairperson Harris said that actually t�hat cJas being
stipulated �vas that Sundial Realty construct that building on
that lot.
Mr. Villella asked if they could take out a Building Perr�it on
that lot �vithout oivning the land. He said that they are purchasing
that lot contingent upon the rezoning of the lot to CR--1.
Mr. Boardman indicated that usually a Building Permit is only
issued to the property or�ner.
Mr. Villella asked if the stipulation could be changed to
indicate that it has to conform to the CR-1 alloc�able
establishments crith the exception of Drug Stores. That tivay,
he said, the Commission could eliminate their main �rorry.
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Chairperson Harris said that the Planning Commission r�anted to
control ���hat 1�ent on that lot. He said that they revie:��ed
the plans and had liY.ed nrhat they savr. They tivanted to be sure
that that type of construction tivas put on that lot. He said
that they ��ranted that building, on that �roperty.
Mr. Villella said that they would be closing on the lot as soon
as the lot ti�ras rezoned. He said that after that, they tivould
submit their plans to the banl; for financing anci bidding and
such. �ie said that there rras a possibility that it could take
a certain period of time. He said that from the offset they
have not been absolutely sure that they could build the
builc�inb that hac? been �horm to the Planning C,ommission. Iie
said that they didn�t desire to spenc� the money having the
plans bici out and a.11 until they could find out if they could
get the lot rezone�� He said that certain things had to be
before other thin�s. He said that their first thing vras to
get the lot rezoned. He said that you alvrays had
to be prepared for ihe chance that something could go astray.
Mr. Langenfeld said that his motion to approve the rezoning
request had been made based on the fac� that he had had the
chance to see the plans and he had the assumption that that
�vould be the type of structure that vrould be put on that lot.
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Chairperson Harris said that the motion vras merely a recommen�tation n
to City Council. _
Mr. Villella said that he tiv�uld. like the Planning Commission
to indicate something in their recommendation that �rrould allow
them a li�tle fle�ibility in the construction. He felt it
was unfair to tie him ico that exact building vJith no margin
of flexibility.
Ms. Schnabel
restrictive.
him a little
agreed �vith NIr.
She felt tiiat
flexibility.
Villella as far as being a bit
something could be done to allovr
MOTION by Mr, L�.ngenfela, seconcied by Mr. Oquist, to amend the
original motion to recommend approval of' the rezoning request
ZOA ;�77-04� by Sundial Realty Company: Rezone that part of
the North 80 feet of Lot 6, Auditor's Subdivision rro. 25, lying
easterly of the northeasterly right of tivay line of the outer
drive of the State Trunk FIighti��ay �65� and tiJest of a line
�253.20 feet ��est of the east line of said I,ot S, as measured
at right angles to, and parallel tTaith, the east line of said
Lot 6, from R-3 ( General Multiple I'amily Arrellin�s) , to CR-1
(General Offices and Limited Businesses), the same being
961 Hilltivind Road N.E. �vith the stipulation that a similar-like
structure that r�ould remain compatibile ti��ith the area and
allocring some flexibility that ti�rould ease any hardship that may
be placed upbn the petitioner.
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Mr. 0 uist a reed that the exact lan cannot be " "
q � p pinned dotivn.
�. �ie saic� that some flexibility cloes ha.ve to be allo��ed. He
did indicate that he didn�t r�ant to see any more•apartment
builciin�s going into the area; therefore, he ��ras more �.n
favor of having the real estate office. Mr. Oquist said that
the motion ti��as really only tyin� Mr. Villella do1�m to a
similar-type structure.
Chairperson Harris indicated that Mr. Villella had best find
out if he ��ould be able to build the building. He felt it
v�as that point in time for Mr. Villella.
P�ir. Villella saici that they had done some of the preliminary
ti•rork for the building. He said that it cras tied dorm as much
as gos�ible. He sair� that until� the Building Permit cras taken
out and the bank put a mortgage on the building, anything
could happen. He said that they ��rere not 100/ sure that that
exact building ��roulcl be constructed on that lot.
Mro Vince Villella of 3625 Edv�ard Street NE said he felt that
the stipulation ti�as out of line. He said that there tivere
restrictions enough on i;he CR-1 Zone.
Mr. Vince Villella said that he understood the motion to say
that �hey don�t actually get the rezoning until the Building
Pernit is applied for. He said that if that tras the case,
n then they �rere b�ck to the original problem. He said that they
could not close on the lot until they get the rezoning; tliey
cannot get the rezoning until tney apply for a building permit,
th�t cannot be issuecl to them unless they ojxm the lot.
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Chairperson Harris said that the motion c�ras the feeling of the
Planning Commission, He said that if Sundial Realty had
different feelings about the motion, then they should bring
it to the attention oi the City Council since this �ras onl�T
a reconimendation ta City Council.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
The amended motion �vas approved at 5:58 P.M.
2. CONTSPN�D: R��tT?;ST �'OR LOT SPLIT L. S, ;f 7-1 BY SUN�II�L
RE �I,TY CO��7PI�PZY: SP T �i � T iAT F�1 T OF .P , AUD TOR
1 lv � 25, AS D�SCRIBED IN R�ZONIidG RE2UEST,
TfI� SAI+�T� nEI1VG 961 HILZ;7IND ROAD N. E.
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MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Mr. Storla, to approve
the request for Lot Split� L.S. ,'�7?-14, by 5undial Realty
Company: Split off that part of Lot 6, Auditor's Subdivision
Tdo. 25� as describecl in rezoning request, the same being
961 Hill�rind Road IdE v�ith the stipulation that there be a
dedication of the right-of rray and the extension of services.
Upon a voice vote, Storla, Oquist, Harris, Langenfeld votin�
aye; Schnabel votin� nay; the motion carried at 9:00 P.M.
3. PUBLIC H�AP,IPTG: RE�U�ST FOR �� SP�r,IAL USF PERMIT
-,. _� � i:�, .; 0 PL �ZIT A FILM
�a ,-� _, r LEY CITY CODE,
S�CTION 205.101 � 3� ( I) , TO BE LOCATED IN TH� PARI�IPJG
LOT, IIHICH IS PI�RT OF LOT 13, AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION
T10. � 55, THE S��PZE BEII�IG 250 57th 11V�I�N� N. ��
MOTIOtT by I•Rr. Lan.genfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to open
the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing �ras opened
at 9:01 P,M. .
Mr. Boardman explained that Holiday Village North �vanted to
move their film shop outside to the parking lot. He said
that there had been a stipulation on the lot that no outside
lease operation could be granted. He indicated that the
request tivas not a lease operation. He said that it would be
owned and operated by Holiday Village. He said that it would
be a pick-up/drop-off type operation in a booth in the parking
lot. �
Mr. Oquist asked if it would be permitted as long as it was
a �ioliday Village Photo Shop. �
Mr. Boardman said that when tY�
it tirra.s a lease o�eration. He
Council allocred that business,
other outside lease operation
that they had made it a point
e Trailor Operation tivent in,
said that at the time the City
it put a stipulation that no
ti�rould be permitted. He said
to stipulate a lease operation.
Mr. Oquist asked if the booth woulcl be attended.
Mr. Bradley Steinman representing Holiday Village North
said that it tivould be attended approximately 9:00 A.M. until
7:00 P.M.
Mr. Langenfeld asked if this operation �vould add further to
the traffic problem already existent at the Holiday Village
P�orth store.
Mr. Boardman said that the traffic problem 6vould be no more
than it ��ras presently.
Mr. Steinman said that the booth �rould basically be for the
sale and developing of film. He said that the trend �vas to
be .�ble to pick up your film ri�ht from your car.
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PLI�NAtING C,OMMISSIOTI P�FT�TING - DEC,� i3rR 7, 197� P��e�
� Chairperson Harris said that it appeared that there was
�dequate parking at the Holida.y Village North store.
Mr. Boardman said that there tivas adequate parking. He said
that it ��ras Holiday Village's plans to relocate the garden
shop next spring. He said that they intended to move it
closer to the building. He said that Holiday Village
had assured the City of Fridley that things would be done to
improve the area.
Mr. Steinman indicated that they ���ould be purchasing from the
Lund t�lanufacturing Company attractive type litter containers.
He said that instead �f using barrels, these ner� containers
vrould look like beetles. He said that possibly these �vould
attract people and thereby remind them to put their litter
into a proper container.
Mr. Langenfeld asked ti�ahat the dimensions of the building would
be.
Mro Steinman said that the booth �vould be 5 ft Z in x 9 ft 2 in.
Ms, Schnabel asked if it tittould be a concrete slab.
Mr. Steinman said that it ���ould be on a concrete s1ab, he said
n there_tiT�ould be the proper curbing, there v�ould be electric
heating inside the booth with proper illunination.
Mr. �quist asked if the building tvas already constructed.
NTr. Steinman said that it ivas a pre-fab buildingo
Chairperson Harris as�sed if there tvould be any uiilities run
to the booth.
Mr. Steinman said that the electricity vrould be underground.
MOTION by T�r. Langenfeld, seconcled by Nis. Schnabel, to close
the Public I-iearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing ���as closed at
9: �3 P.M. _
MOTION by P�Zr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, that the
Planning Commission recommend approval of the request for a
Specail Use Permit, SP ,�77-15, by Holiday Village, Inc.; to
permit a film processing drop-off booth, per Fridley City Code,
Section 205;101,.3, (I), to be loc�ted in the parking lot,
• ��rhich is part of Lot 13, Auditor's Subdivision No. 155, the
szme being 250 57th llvenue r?.T�. �•�ith the stipulation that it
��ould be a Haliday Villa�e Inc. function anc� that in the event
^ that tlie Booth is movecl, that the concrete base also be moved
from the area. Unon � voice vote, all votin� aye, the motion
" carried unaniMOUSly.
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L�.. i?UI3LT_G HEARTNC � ]2'?7�nrTTt�1('T P-,T;�T t�^,T, 7,� ��% 7?-05� RV R� C�
COI?1'UP,!1T_TnrT: R';7,ppd'_; I�'ROi�I C-2S (GFN]:RAL SIIOPPIIJG AR�A�� n
TO C-1 ( LOCAL �U.�IrTESS ARElI �) , L07.' 1, BLOCK 1, P�ARSOl`t � S
FIRST ADDITIOIV� THE S��� BLING 7899 EAST RIV�R ROAD NE
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to open the
Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously. The Public Hearing was opened at 9:�5 P.I�i.
Mr. Boardman said that this piece of property had gone through
severa.l variances and rezonings. He said that it vras the intent
of 7-11 Stores to build on that lot. He said that a condition
of the last City Council a.�proval �ras that it tivas rezoned
to C-1. He said that property �ras alreaciy zoned C-2So
Mr. Langenfeld asked about the stipulations that had been
requested for that property by a group of Citizens,
Mr. Boardman indicated that there �uere 15 stipulations that
��rere incorporated as stipulations of a variance at ,a
variance meeting held on A�iarch 15, 197?. He said that those
tivere the sar�e stipulations that the Planning Commission may
or may not ti�rant to put on the rezoning."
Chairperson Harris read the 15 stipulations:
1. Extensive landscaping on the site; plan filed t�rith
Planning Department.
2. Berming to be of sufficient height to protect the residents
from automobile lighting. (as indicated on the plans)
3. Additional plants (as marked on the plans).
4. Entire building would be brick.
5. Buffer plantings incorporated �Rrith berm.
6. Lighting focused doyrn so as not to shine into the
residential property ob�ner's vrindotiJS.
7. All blacktop adjoining green area to be separated by
poured concrete curbing.
8. No egress from the developmer_t onto �ast River Road;
ingress only.
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9. Refuse area sllould have solid screen, no gate opening
^ anto the service drive, the portion not being used for
refuse storage and handling to be used for plantings.
10. Sider�alk connection constructed to Lincoln Street. If an
' a�reement cannot be reached betvreen Meridi�n and Fudali,
the sideti•ralk cannection �hould be constructed a.nyvray,
but only on Meridian's pro�e�ty. This tirill offer property
protection from nearby �esidents.
11. Parking moved do��rn to z0 feet to pick up additional room
to enable cars� to face in instead of against each other.
12. Applicant r�ill petition.the City for rezoning fr�m C-2S
to C-1 a.nd there r�ill be no contest on zoning change in
future.
13, Easements to be dedicated to City of Fridley as noted
on attached map.
11�. Applicant 1ri11 construct a deceleration lane from the
driver�ay abuzting East River Road to the south. The
deceler�ation lane is to be a 12 foot wide bituminous
section tirith a 2 foot gravel shoulder and'is to extend
south��rard frora the drivei�ray entrance 100 feet southtivard
from the sot�th radius and then taper at 15:1 to tie
� bacli into . the existing roadtivayo The typical section shal_1
consist of 8+' C�ass V b�se, 12�� asphalt bincler course
(MHD 231�1) and 1�i� asphalt 1rearing course (MHD 2341) �
A1l construction shall be in accordance lvith the Minnesota
Department of �iighrrays Stanc�ard Specifications for High���a.y
Construction dated J anuary 1, 1972, and as amended by
Suvplemental AS�ecifica.ti on for Hightiray Constructian dated
J �.nuary 1 , 1974. .
15. A bond covering the cost of all stipulated improvements
i�rould be required.
Chairper$on Harris pointed out that what tivas actually being
done tivas the petitioner i�ras fulfilling No. 12 of the stipulations.
Mr. Oquist asked if all the above stipulations �s�ere already�
covered in a previous variance.
Mr. Boardman said that these stipulations ��rere placed by
City Council. iie said that the petitioner �vas nocr requesting
the rezoning to fulfill No. 12 of the stipulztions.
MOTION �y Mr. Langenfeld, seconcled by ris. Sclinabel, that the
Plannin,r^, Commissic.�n r�ceive a letter from AIr. John �enton,
the Pro�erty I�iana�er of the tiead�ci Run :lpartir�ents, indicuting
the they rrer.e in favor of the rezoning of tlie property ir.
� nu�stion. Upon a voice vote, ��11 votin� zy�, the motion
cai.rie� unanimuusly.
PLANNING COl-2t�IIaSI�rT P�IrrTIA1C _ nrc ;��f3ER 7, 1977 p�p�e 12
Mr. Langenfeld said that it v�as his understanding that these
stipul�tions, if incorporated, there vrould be no problems as
far as the rezoning ���as concerned. In other erords, he sai�l,
the rezor�in� �ra� fine �rith the citizens as long, as all the
stipulations ti�ere met.
Chairperson Harris confirmed tvhat Mr. Langenfeld said.
Mr. Boardman shoti•red the Planning Commission a plan of the 7-11
Store,
Mr. Oquist asked about stop lights at that intersection.
Mr. Boarc)man said that the City had asked for lighting at
that intersection. :ie said that the County saicl that there
rras no �rarrant for a trafiic light at that ini;ersection.
He indicated that City felt that enough traffic rras generated
at th.at point. He cras relatively sure that traffic lights
�vould eventually be put at that intersection.
I�Zr. Storla. had to leave the meeting at 9:25 P.M. due to a
previous commitment.
Mr. Oqtzist said that it vrould be called a neighborhood convenience
center. He pointed out that there zJOUld probably be more than
a 7-11 store on that prope�ty.
Chairperson Ha.rris said that there tiroulci be something other
than the 7-11 Store� howrever, he vras not certain tivhat. He
read what ��ras allovred in a C-1 Zone.
The Planning Commission pointed out that there had been a
typographical error in the Public Hearing Notice that
indicatecl the rezoning �vas from a C-2S to C-15. They felt
that the rezoning request t�vas from a C-2S to C-1. They
decidecl to handle the request as a C-1 and make their motions
as such. If PZr. Board�rnan found out that they i�rould have to
re-publish and re-notify the adjacent property otivners, then
it ���ould �also have to re-appear before the Planning Commission.
Mr. Langenfeld said that without question they vrould have to
again consider the requests of the citizen group.
Ms. Schnabel said that those requests had already been considered
and the City Council stipulations hac� stated that the request
ti�aould go through and be rezoned erithout any contest on the
rezoning.
MOTION by Mr. Lan�enfeld, seconded by P�s. Schnabel, to close
the Public Hearing. Upon a eoice vote, all voting aye� the
motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing ��r�s closed
at g: j3 P.Tq.
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PLANPJING COMMSS �ION M� � INC - DFCT�,MBFR 7, 1977 , pa�e 1 3
MOTIOId by Ms. Schnabel, secon�ed by Mr. Langenfeld, that the
Planna.ng Commission recommend approval of the Rezoning Request,
Z01� /�77_05, by R�C.E. Corporation: Rezone from C-25 (General
n Shappin� l�reas) to C-1 (Local Business �lreas) , Lot 1, Elock 1,
Pearson's First Addition, the same being 7899 East River Road riE.
t�Is. Schnabel saici that it woula not be necessary to incl.ude
aZl the siipulations in the motion since City Council had
alreacly made them.
P�Ir. Langenfeld pointed out that the Citizen Group tvould not
contest such a rezoning as long as the stipulations rrere met
and they had already been pre-arranged prior to the request.
UPON A VOIC� VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously� R
5. PUBLIC HEARIP?r• ���p}�(}pp;S�� _PRw"f TA�fTrrnnv �r nm
�ERT �.5 A�DI`T`Ini•T Bv '��THtT� L FR�T� P. S. �77 Orf �
G: BEING �1 R�PLAT OI'
LOT 19, ��C�PT THE J!;ST 190 FELT TH �R�OF: ?�tD E�CF,pT T���
��JEST 17 FEET TAK�'l�d FOR HIGH��VAY PURPOSLS: APtD THE !JEST
� ��F7.7�+ F�ET OF LOT 18, A�L Trj 11UDITOR'S SUBDIVISION
N0. 1 Z9. ( THIS PRELIP��IN�±RY PLAT R��'PL 4CTS CENTRILL
TOtJNFiOUSE PLAT (TJOT R�CORDED) APdD IS GEN�R�iLLY LOCATED
AT THE I2TTERS�CTION OF 73r.d AVL'I�TUE AND CErdTRAL AVEIdUE N� E.
� P�OTIOTT by I�Zr. Langenfeld, seconded by l�is. Schnabel, to open the
Public I�earing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
�''1 carried unanimously. The Public Hearing ti�ras opened at 9:36 p.M.
Mr. BoardMan sho�red the Planning Commission a Plat of the area.
He inclicated that ��r11at tvas being proposed b�as ten lots tha�
tivould be designed for duplexeso He explaine� that the proposal
���as to run the street thraugh and have it cul-de-sac�d. He
said th�t the City of Frid.ley liud requested that the petitioner
atternpi to purehase an adjacent lot. He indicated that the
person oti�,ming that lot did not ��ish to sell.
Mr. Boardman said that it �ras felt that the �roposed development
crould be better if the duplexes could be se.rved by a better
road system. �ie indicated that ihe ovrner of the acijacent
property did not l�ish to sell to NIr. Fretag. He said that
the ac�jac�nt property c�ras zoned commercial and the otJner vrished
to sell the�lot as commercial. Mr. Boardman pointed out th�t
NIr. Fretag s lot �las zoned as R-3,
ChairPerson Harris said that the only tinay to be able to put
another street in tirould be to condemn land for the right of
���ay, trhich. tivould, then, make the ad jacent lot unbuildable as
a Commercial lot.
P�;s� Schnabel didn�t believE that the City Council rrould condemn
land for . a right of �vay since there ti�rould be an alternate ti=ray
n to reach the duplexes,
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PLANNING C�MMISSION MFETIrIG - nEC£1'�BLR 7, 1977 Pa�e 14
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Mr. Fretag of 3106 - 61st Avenue North indicated to the
�'lanning Commission that both he and Mr. Evert Sv�anson of �1
258 '�9indsor Lane ( the property ovrner) had approached the
neighbor directly Nor�h of his property and offered them
$20,0�0 for the back 1/3 of the lot,and the additional 25 feet
that �vould enable them to run the road into tlle area from
Central Avenue. He said that the neighbor had refused the
offer. He said that they had tried to come up �vith other
alternatives, but none of them seemed advantageous to
Mr. Swanson. . �
Mr. Boardman said that he did understand that Mr. Fretag
had tried to purchase the land from the neighbor. He vras
only saying that another alternative vrould be to have the
city conclemn the land for the road right of vray. He saicl
that he �rasn't telling the City they should, just that it
`eould be another alternative for the petitioner.
Chairperson Harris said that by using condemnation to get
the road right of ZTray, the Ciicy may encl up having to pay
for the entire lot because by taking that 30 feet, it ��rould
almost make the lat unbuildable as a C-1�
Mr. Boardman said that it could be buildable as C-1 since
the Code indicated minimum fr�ntage of 160 feet or a total
lot size of 20,000 square feet. He said that 'che remainin� n
lot, after the condemnation, tivould be jus-c about 20,000 sq ft.
Chairperson Harris asked if all the petitioner's proposed
lots met all the requirements. � .
Mr. Boardman indicated that Mr. Fretag's entire plan met
all the requirements.
Chairperson FIarris asked hotiv the area tivould be serviced.
Mr. I're�ag said that all the service t��ould be underground.
Ms. Schnabel asked �.f all the duplexes ��ould be built at once,
ancl if they <<rould be built for sale purposes.
Mr. Fretag said that until the �reather got better, they �vould
only build one duplex at a time. He said that they erould yiorli
on more than one at a time once the ti�reather got �varmer. He
indicated that all ten of them vrould be completed in a 12-month
period of time. He also indicated that all of the duplexes
would be built for sale purposes.
Mr. I'retag said that there rrould be 1,150 square feet per unit
and that the units :•rould be 2-story units. He said that the
units �vould be priced in the �690,000 bracket.
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Mr. Virnig o
s3.��, that he
� this property
irivo]:ved tiirith
passed on to
He said that
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f 1365 - 73rd Avenue NE (adjacent land oivner)
hacJ the same:comments th�t he had previously when
h�d been discussed. fIe cia.nted� any asse�ssments
the property to be absort�ed by th� area and not
the adjacent landotiJners in form of t�es, etc.
he hacl no objections to the plan.
MOTIOTJ by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to close the
Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all votin� aye� the motion
carried unanimously. The Public Hearing ��ras closed at
9: 58 P.T�7.
AZOTIOIV by A2s. Schnabel, seconded by P-Zr. Langenfelci, that the
Planning Commission recommend �pproval of the proposed prelir:�in�+ry
Plat, P�,",� =�77_p7, �,vert's Addition� by Arthur L. Fretag:
Bezng a replat of Lot 19, rxcep� the East 190 feet thereof;
and except the l7est 17 feet taken for high�aay purposes; and the
r�est 11+7,74 feet of Lot 1$, all in Auditor's Subdivision No. 129.
(This prel��ninary plat replaces Central Totimhouse Plat} (Not
recorcled) and is genera?1y located at tre intersection of
73rd Avenue and Central Avenue N.E. tirith the understanding that
as approved in the preceeding re-plat request that the
assessments for the curbing� se�vers, vrater, be assessed to the
Peti�ioner and not assessed to the adjacent property ovrners.
Also that the easements as.sho�*rn on Exhibit A be dedicated and
that the property to the East of the access road be dedicated
to the pro�erty o��mer at �365 - 73r� Avenue NE as shovrn on
�xhibit A. Upon a vaice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
Cnai.rperson Harris declared a ten minute break at 10:04 P.M,
Mr. Oquist left the meeti.ng at 10:01� P.M. due to a previous
co�mitment.
6. CONTINUED: P.�RK Px OPL'N SP�10E PL!�IV
Mr. Boardman commented that at the previous Planning Commission
meetin� the stace�ient had been made that the reason for the
Park � Open Space Plan being done tiaras for func�ing purposes.
He said that that statement had nat been true. He saic� �hat
the reason for Parks and O�nen Space plan ��as to direct park
development for the City of Fric�ley for the purpose of getting
a better system than r�hat they had in the City.
Mr. Boardman also comrlented that it had been
previous meeting that the Parks & Open Space
ti•rorking document. He felt that there had to
the attitudes of. the Parks and Recreations
commitments made to �eet an overall plan.
stated at tlie
Plan rras not a
be changes in
Commission and
s
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PL�IVNINC COP�1t�lISSION M�, �TSNr - n� ER 7, 1977 Pat�e 16
ChairperUon Harris said that he had gone to the City Council
tilor�.shop meetin� on Idovember 28� 1977, and brought up the
point of a.c�ui�ition of �nar�; Property. Iie sai� that the �
Citq Council inr3ic��.ted they rrould con�ider t�kin� priv�te
lancl for park purposes under special conclitions. fIe said
that they did nat state any specific guidelines. He said
that each indivic�ual park tiaould be nandled as an individual
case.
Chairperson Harris felt that it should be indicated on page 20
of the Parks and Open Space Plan that it vrould be considered.
Mr. Boardman suggested inserting the tirrords �TProven need for"
in the section of ��Acquisition�' in Preighborhood Areas.
Chair�,erson Harris also su�gested taking out the percentages
on page 20. The Commission members agreed.tivith his suggestion.
Page 22, C. Regional Park
Ms. Schnabel and P�Zr. Boardman collaborated on the ti��ording
and it t��as agreed by the members of the Planning Commission
to change the crording to,"Regional P ark: An area of
Natural Ouality oriented totivards open space activi�ies.
Regional Parks usually contain at least 100 acres and
are located ��rhere natural resources occur".
P age 22, D. Community P ark
Mr. Boardman suggested the item be re�;rorded to, �'Community
Park: An area of natural or ornamental quality for
passive outdoor recreation and some field or court games.
A Cor�munity park usually consist of 25 to 50 acres and
are placed in proximity to other com�unity facilities
and are rrithin easy reach of �11 residents of the community,."
The members of the Planning Commission tivere in agreement.
P age 22� E. Community Playfield
The Planning Commission suggested revrorciing the item to,
"Community Playfield: An area for intense recreational
facilities, such as athletic fields, consisting of 25
to 50 acres pla.ced, ��hen possible, in close proximity to
secondary schools or other community facilities.�t They
ti��anted the term sti=rimmin� pool removed from the definition.
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Page 22, F. Nei�hbonc��od Park Play�round:
The Pl;�nnin� Commission agreed th�t that item rras
��rorded OI{.
Page 22, G. Mini Park
Ms. Schnabel suggested that the item be re�vorded to,
'rr7ini Park: t4ini Parks are specia.lized facilities serving
a concentrated or limited population or specific groups
and should be located 1=�ithin ���alking distance of those
areas not served by larger park sites. They should be
less th�.n 1 acre in size.�' The other members of the
P1� nnin� Comraission a�ree� y�ith the leaving out of the
terrns, �isuch as tots or se�ior citizens��.
Page 22� �I. Open Space
Mr. Boa.rdman suggested that
"H. Onen Space/Linear Park.
percentages should be left
H be retsrorded
He also said
out oi all the
to,
that any
descriptions.
Chairperson Harris said that Tables 2,3,4, & 5 shoulc� be
left out. He said that the dravrings could be left in and
that some of the concepts should be integrated into the
definitions of the parks & Opens Space Plan.
Page 23, Recommendation 2
Mr. Boardr�ian said that he �Rrc�uld indicate thai the
Planning Commission had many questions ori the
recommendation.
Chairperson �Izrris said that it see�ed like the
recommenclation sug�ests reserving land for possible
future use. He ti�ranted it clarified.
Page 23, F.ecommendation 3
Mr. Boardman said that rrhat had to be done �ras to
insure that park facilities are available to service
the population, that cre don't double-up on the
services. It should service the needs ancl not over-
service the population. He said that tlie objective
laas to develop an order of parl� facilities that
t�rould be flexible to the changin� needs of the population.
Mr. Bo�rdman that it referred to the compatibility
of the different uses in the parks and each of the areas
should b� developed accordin�ly.
PLI�I!m1ING C�i�t�IS �IOTT P�[ET;TINC - DECT�7ET�;R 7, 1977 Pa�e 1�
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Mr. �3oa.rdman said that he ti�rould look into the actual
�urpo�.� Of thi..:� recomMen��a.tion an:� let the F�lannin�
Gonimi��ion r.no?•� 1•�ha.1; it ;�ras tr�in� to accotnplish.
Page 23, Recommendation 4
The Planning Commission ��as in agreement vrith that
recommendation.
Page 23, Recommendation 5
It 1�as clecidecl by the Plannin� Commission that this
recor.lmen�3ation bel�ngec: uncier Gbjective 3.
P age 23� Objective 2, Policies 1� 2
The Planning Commission agreed tivith these items.
P age 23, Recommendation 1 at the bottom of the page
The Pl�nning Commission suggested leaving out the
tivord "immediate".
P age 2�.� Recommendation 2
The Planning Commission sug�;�sted leaving out the
rrord 11Early�� . n
Page z1�, Recomnend.ation 3
The Planning Commission agreed with the item.
P�ge ZL; � Recommendation �..
Mr. Boardman said that the recommendation �xras to either
develop the p�rks inc�icated unc?er the recommendation
as park property or else be dedicated or solci.
It i'ras suggested by T�Ir. Langenfeld and I��s. Schnabel to ac�d a
Recommend�tion 5 under Objective 2. It tivould be `rorded,
"Conservation of Energy and Protection of facilities from
vandalism".
MOTIQN by NTs. Schnabel, seconded by r�r. Langenfeld to continue
the Parks & Open Space Plan. Upon a voice vote� all voting aye,
the motion carried unanimously at 11:42 P�Ni�
7. RECEIVE COP�It�iUNITY DE�OPP�IIVT CONlAZISSION MINUT�S:
NOVII�ZBER 15, 1977
A20TIOid Uy TIs. Scnnabel, seconded by RZr. Langenfel.d, to
receive the Community Development Commission minutes of
November 15� 1977.
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PLIINNITdG COMMISSIOPI M�1;TIP1G - nrc , BI;R 7, 1977 Pa ,e 19
i�ir. Langenfeld askecl if the Planning �Commission
Mr. Ron Lokken from ]3loomington to talk to the
,�, re�ardin� the Proposed Pdai�e Control Ordinance
�r�s h� nclled in 131oorain�ton.
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Commission
and hocr it
Chairperson IIarris said that that tvoulcl be agreeable and
informa�ive. •
UPON A VOIC� VOT�, all voti:ng aye� the �otion carxied.unanimously.
The minutes tirere received at 1 1;1�1� p�Pq,
8. RECEIVE 1�PPJ1ILS COP�IMISSIOPT MINtTTES • NOVIItZLER 2, 1977
P�OTION by Ms. Schriabel, seconcled by P•ir. Lanoenfeld, to receive
the l�ppeals Comnission minutes of i�lovember Zg, 19?7�
Ms. Schnabel indicated that the discussion on Council �lction
on V�riance on sign for Real Estate 10 at g51 Hilllvi.nd Road T?E
had occurred because at the time the �ippeals Commission first
heard the request they didn't have the pictures. After the
meeting the Staff person had gone out and tal�en pictures
de�ictin� the visibility of the Real Estate 10 building on
Hilllrinci Roac� rtE from Interstate 694. She saic� that at the
folloti�ring Appeals Commission meeting, tY�e Commission sa�ir the
pictures and the Commission felt very differently about the
decision ihat they had previously made. The Commission had
asked that the nictures be sn.o1m to the City Council at the
time of the request and that the Appeals Comr�ission's feelings
be expressed. She said that the Appeals Cominission had not
been sure that that had happened. She said that she had stated
at the ?�7�peals Cammission that she sometimes felt that at the
time the petitioners have to appear at previous Commissions
before they appear beiore the City Council it is like a trial
run. She said that ti•rhen the �etitianer gets before the City
Counci.l they have it all figured out as to horr to state their
c ase.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimausly.
The minutes ti��ere received at 11:51 P.M.
9. •�CrIVr PA�I;:S
MOTION by 1�Zr. Langenfeld, seconc3e� by r�s. Schnabel, to receive
the November 28, 1977, minutes of the P arks �; Recreation
Commission.
Chairperson FIarris asked ti}that 1�►as � attempted to be accomplished
by handling the A�p].ications of Naturalist/Resource Coordinator
position in the manner described.
I�•ir. �oardm�n said that he �rasn't sure rrhat �;he position ���auld
involve. He.explained that the previous person had accepted
�nother position.
UPOId � VOICC VOTL, all voting �ye, the motion carried unanimously.
The minute� ;.�erc rece� v�c? �t 1 1:,53 r- ,rg.
Pr�AI�1IIT.NC COI2�iISaIOPT P•?ErTID1G - nrcr.r��r� �, 1977 Pa�;e 20
10� R ;r,T;IV ; ;�TTVIROrII�-ZT;PdT11L �?U�ILITY COP��lI �SIOTd MIPiUT�S:
I�TOV i' 1�1P �:� ?_2 � 1�77
T�IOTIOI�1 by Mr. La.ngenfeld, seconc�ed by AZs. Schnabel, to receive
the November 2z, 1977, minutes of the Environmental �uality
Commission.
Mr. Langenfeld said that he had taken it upon himself to define
the terms used in discussing the Noise Pollution Ordinance
because the terr�is are used so often and many times people don't
even knor� ti�rhat the v�ords mean.
UPOTT � VOICE VOT�, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. The ninu�tes rrere receivec� at 11:55 P.T�.
11. OTHLR BUSIN�SS
Mr. Board.man commented that many people in the Commissions
�rere goino to conferences� etc. He said thai it should be
upon the Commission to approve tirhether or not a rnember goes
�to a conference or not and then be sure that monies a.re
av�ilable.
Mr. Boardman exPlained several
for by the City of Fridley and
�luzdings approved.
fundings that had been applied
the programs that. already had
NIr. �oardman explained the proposed biketi�ray system to the
Planning Commission.
ADJOURN��E1�T
r�OTION by AZs. Schnabel, seconded by r�:r. Langenfeld, to adjourn
the '�ecer:i�er 7� 1977, Planning Cor,�nission meeting. U�on a
voice vote� all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Harris c�eclared the meeting adjourned at 12:09 A.M.
Respectfully submitted�
N1aryL e Carhill
Recording Secretary
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