PL 06/21/1978 - 6635City of Fridley
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IJEDNESDAY, JUNE 21, 1978
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMIIISSION MINUTES: JUNE 7, 1978
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED PRELIM
MUNN AN� T DD BLAIR: A replat of Lots 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and
10, Block 2, Hillcrest Addition, generally located in the
7100 Block on the East side of East River Road.
2. CONTTNUEQ ENERGY COF4MISSION DISCUSSION
3. TRBCED;� RECYCLING PROJECT REPORT
4. RECEIYE HUMAN RESOURCES COMtdISSI�N MINUTES: JUNE i; 1978
5. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE 13, 1978
6. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
7:30 P.M.
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CALL TO ORDFR:
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANAIING COMMIaSION MEFTING
Jur1� � � 978
Vice-Cahirperson Langenfeld called the June 7, 1978, Planning
Commission meeting to order at 7:43 p,M,
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent;
Others Present:
Storla, Oquist, Harris (late), Peterson,
Schnabel, Langenfeld
None
Jerrold Boardman, City planner
APPROVE PLANPiIIdG COMP4ISSIOA3 MIAiUTES• MAY 17, 1978
MOTION by Ms, Schnabel, seconded by Mr, Peterson, to approve the
May 17, 1978, Planning Commission meeting minutes, Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, the motion czrried unanimously.
1, PUBLIC H�11RIPiG: CONSIDPRATIODI OF A PRrr,TMTAIARV PLAT. P.4 t1�R_n�,
ur i�nx1• rHtc�l• ur �1���L ivUit�l'H1di:s'P c�UAR`PER OF THE SOU1H'�'JEST OUARTER OF
SECTION 2 DESCRIBED AS FOLLOI'JS: COMMENCING AT THE TNTERSECTION
OF THE SOUTH LIN� OF SAID NQRTH';JEST �UARTiR AND THE �'lESTyRlY
RIGHT-OF-i'JAY LINE OF STATE HZGHi7AY N0, CF7; TAENCE NOP,7'HERLY, ALOidG
SAID RIGHT-OF-�"IAY LIRrE� 48.00 FEET TO THF ACTUAI, POINT OF BEGINNING;
THENCE PJESTERLY PAR�ILLEI„IITH SAID SOUTH LINE, 143,03 FEET; TAENCE
ON A TANGENTIAL CURVE TO THE RIGHT FOR A DISTANCL oF 96.86 FEET�
RADTUS OF SAID CURUE IS 50,00 FEET; THENCE ALONG A COP�iPOUND CURVE
A DTSTANCE OF 65.39 FEET� RADIUS OF SAID CURVE IS 156,07 FE�T;
THETiCE NORTHEASTERLY� TANGSNT TO LAST DESCRIBED CURVE� 108.35 FEET;
THENCE ON A TAIQGENTIAL CURVE TG THE LEFT A DISTIINCE OF 209.25 FE"�T
TO THE SATD RIGHT-OF-4JAY LINE, RADIUS OF SAID CURV� IS 266.7? FEET;
TH,F�IiCE SOUTHERLY, ALONG SAID RIGHT-OF-WI�Ys T0 THE POINT OF BEGINNIIvG�
AI,L LYING IN THE SOUTH HALF OF SECTION 2� T-30� R-24� CITY OF
FRIDI,EY� COUNTY OF ANOKA� NiINNESOTA.
GENERALLY BOUND BY 79th AV�NUE NE AND UNIVERSITY AVENUE NE ON THE
UNIVERSITY V]EST S�RVICE DRIVE� THE SAME BEING 7910 UNIV�RSITY
AVENUE NE (GODFATHER PIZZA),
MOTIQN by Mr, Peterson� seconded by Mr, I,an�enfeld, to open the Public
Hearing. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. The Public Hearing was opened at 7:Q'7 P�r7,
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Mr. l3oardman indicated that vahen the City Council aZloi�fed the Buildin�
Permit for Godfather Pizza, one of the stipulations cras that the area
be Platted. FIe said that the request was bein� made to complete that
stipuzation.
Mr, Boaxdman explained that 1�rhen the Building Permit was granted for
Godfather Pizza it �^ras granted on a larger portion of nroperty, He
said that in order for Godfather Pizza to split dov�n to a smaller size
property, they had to go throu�h the platting procedure. He said that
in order to st�eed up the process of the Building Permit, the condition
of platting the property ivas made part of the Building Permit.
MOTION by Mr, Peterson� seconded by Mr. Storla, to close the Public
Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the raotion carried
unanimously. The Public Hearing �vas closed at 7:5d P.ri�
t40TI0N by Mr. Peterson� seconded by Mr. Oquist� that the Planning
Commission recommend approval of the consideration of a preliminary
plat� P,S, #78-01{� East Ranch Estates l�ih Addition, by Robert Shroer:
Being a replat of that part of the North�vest �uarter of the Southt�rest
�uarter of Section 2 described as follo�^rs:
Commencing at the intersection of the south line of said Northi�rest
quarter and the l�lesterly right-of-vray line of State Hightiaay No, 4?;
Thence Northerly, along said right-of-raay line� �8.00 feet to the
actual point of be�inning;
Thence 4"desterly parallel �vith said South line, 743.03 feet;
Thence on a tangential curve to the right for a distance of
96.86 feet� radius of said curve is 50.00 feet;
Thence along a compound curve a distance of 65.39 feet, radius of
said curve is 156.07 feet;
Thence Northeasterly, tangent to last described curve, 108.35 feet;
Thence on a tangentia2 curve ta the Zeft a distance of 209.25 feet
to the said right-of-�vay line, radius of said curve is 266.77 feet;
Thence Southerly, along said right-of-aray, to the point of beginning;
All lying in the South Half of Section 2, T-30, R-2y., City of
Fridley� County of Anoka� Minnesota.
Generally bound by 79th Avenue NE and University Avenue NF' on the
University ':lest Service Drive� the same being 79�0 Universitq Ave NE
(Godfather Pizza).
UPON A VOICE VOT�, all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
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I'PuT OI' LOT 1�� LUCl/1 LAN� t.DDITt OPI� FROM R-1 (SIIdGL� PAMILY
D1V�LLI21G UNITS) TO C�2 (GEPi .R11L BUSIN�SS AREAS) � P'OR A PROPOS�D
R�STAUR�IPTT SIT�:� TH� SAM� BEING t1L�5 t•4ISSI5SIPPI STREi,T NE�
MOTIOPi by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by h4r. Peterson, to open the Public
Fiearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting a.ye, the motion carried
unanimously. The Public Iiearing e�as opened at 7:52 P.M.
Mr. Boardman shor�ed the Commission the plans for the lots. He er.plained
exactly ��thich lots crere involved :vith the request, He pointed out that
at the intersection of HighvJay 65 and Mississippi there ivas no other
commercial enterprises.
T".r. 44yman Smith� the attorney representing Mr. Gerald G. 3ohnson,
c;xplained the/� ezoning request. He said that Mr. Johnson
'.iad ot°med trle pt:operty in question for 22 years. He said that since
Fridley had its t�riginal zoning scheme laid out, the property had been
zoned R-1. He sa3,d that it has been maintained as R-1 since that point
in time. He said that the lots rrere nicely wooded lots and that the
neighborhood had dei�iniiely benefited from that property. He pointed
out that P4r, Johnsan'�till had to pay taxes on that property and he
has decided that he ��rat,ted to develop his property. He felt that it
ivas not reasonable to ti�y to develop it as R-1 since it �vas located
on the corner of a very l3�sy intersection.
Mr. Smith r�ent on to exnlain that the type of restaurant that ti�rould
locate on that property L•ras a family-type restaurant. He said that
they planned to have a nicely planned building ihat �fould be a sit-in
restaurant, He said it tivould not be a drive-in or fast food restaurant.
He said that there v�ould be no liquor license applied for. He said
ihat the restaurant iaould really be a good use for the property and
most suitable to the neighborhood.
Mr. Jim Lobman, President of the restaurant company that crould be
located on the proposed site, explained that the restaurant rrould
be a nice family-style restaurant. He said that the Company :vas
local. He said that the restaurant concept was developed in 1962.
He said that he r�anted the neighborhood to understand that the
restaurant eaas not a national chain restaurant trying to move into the
area; he felt that the proposed restaurant tvould actually be very
good for the area.
Mr. tValter Boyd, the real-estate broker workin� vrith 3's Restaurants,
indicated that he �aas not a memUer of the family or an employee, but
that he was r�orking r�ith,l�ir. Lobman on the transaction. He explained
to the Commission all the statistics involved tvith the proposed
restaurant. He indicated the taxes it �rould bring in as ti�rell as the
employment statistics. He felt that the information tivould be of
interest to the Commission as erell as the Community.
PLAPtNIPIG COMMISSIOPd MrFTIP1G - JUNT��1,97f3 PaF-,e 4 �
P�r. Gerald Johnson, 712 River Lane, l�noka, said that he felt he had
bried long enou�h to develop the land as sesidential property. He said
it didn't seem anyone vias interested in building at the corner of
t4is�isUippi and Highe�a;� 65.. He'felt that the family-style restaurant
�vas the best solution for that piece of property.
t•4s. Schnabel asked if the restaurant lvould be open 2� hours.
t•ir, Lohman indicated that it tivould be open 2t� hours every day.
Mr. Clarence Timo� 6517 Lucia Lane N�� read to the audience and the
Commission the rezoning request objections and petition for denia.l.
He read� ��To the City of Fridley� Planning Commission and Council
Members:
"',Je as residenis of the City of Fridley, Minnesota, hereby
protest the Rezonzng Request described in ZOA �#78-05 for
the folloering reasons:
1) One of the most important objections t�te have to the
Rezoning application is that it is a request for Spot
Zonin�; that is to say that the placing of a business
establishment right in the middle of us hor�eorm ers and
citizens of Fridley� totally surrounded by lots zoned as
R-1 (single family dv�elling units).
2) The traffic problems
a) The Knights of Columbus Hall at the North end of
Lucia Lane has a number o£ functions going on at their
C1ub House at various times� All cars returning from
those functions as crell as the Lucia Lane Apartments are
routed South on Lucia Lane to�vards MissiUsippi Street,
there being no exit at the North end. From there it
meets all traffic traveling east and v�est on Mississippi
Street that already has conjestion problems, (He had
a picture he shot�red to the Commission of that exact
conjestion problem that ke had taken at 6:00 P.M.
June p� 1978).
b) Highriay 65 and Mississippi Street already has a
history of many serious accidents at that corner.
c) Tf the parking lot for the proposed restaurant lvere
to fill up; or if some people, including trucks, semi's,
etc., wouldn't feel like get�ing jammed into a parking lot�
they rrould park in front of the homes, creating a further
traffic hazard�
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PI,AIJNING COP�[P�[ISSION t9TPTING - JT7i?E 7, 1978 Pa�e �,�_
d) The proposed drive-�rays to the restaurant, off
Mississippi Street erould cross bik'e trails on MiUsissippi
Street. This �•rould further compound the hazards of
traffic.
e) Itinerant traffic� including
Highuay 65 i^rould invariably park
or other convenient side streets
the parking lot and �aould return
that intersect P�tis�issippi.
3) The depreciation of home value.
trucks, semis, etc. from
on i�fississippi Street
instead of getting into
via the many side streets
Traffic, noise, littering of streets by customers, and
potential hang-out of undesirable resulting in possible
vandalism in the area,
Parkin� lot lights shining in homes all. night and ugly
parking lots in the area.
People v�ith sma11 children vrouldn't care to buy homes in
the area because of the additional traffic on sicle streets.
The aesthetic quality of the area ti�rould be lost forever �Jith
the loss of the beautiful trees; e�here otheri•iise could be
built beautifuZ homes.
Pollution from cars and trucks; undesirable smells of a
restaurant; placement of industrial garbage containers
which tivould result as an attraction for flies and rodents,��
Mr. Timo said that ne�v streets and gutters �vere installed less than
one year ago at the urging of �he City of I'ridley to improve Fridley's
residential appearance. He said that the residents did not �rant that
appearance ruined.
Mr. Timo said that all the residents in the area purchased their homes
with the understanding that all the property in the area �ras zoned R-1
Mr. Timo proceeded to read the introduction to a petition that had in
excess of 260 signatures. He explained that the people �vere all property
o�ners unless it was indicated after their name that they e�ere renters.
"Petition protesting Rezoning: To the Council of the City of
Fridley. - t9e the undersigned being tax payers and residents
of the City of Fridley, or/and bein� otimers of the property
abutting on Highi�ray 65 and Lucia Lane and P4ississippi Street
do hereby join in a petition protesting a�ainst an commercial,
business, or industrial buil.ding on said residential property
referred ta in ZOA {{78-05, tvhich includes Lots 5,6 & 7 and the
westerly 136�- feet of Lot 4 on Lucia Lane Addition. l`7e req_uest
that you do not allow rezoning of said property ��rhich noyr is
zoned R-1 and ive crant it to remain R-1 , I have personal].y signed
this petition and a qualified voter of the City of Fridley
>�=�and my residence is correctly v�ritten after my name."
PLANNITTG COi•ti�fISSION f4T'PTITdG - JUIdr 7, 197fi Pa(�;e 6
t4r. Timo said that he personally ,•rent to most of the people. He said
that t4r. Russell F3urris of 1150 P4i�sissippi Street PdE had accompanied
him on the first feer. P�Ir. Tir�o atte�ted to the fact that he personally
visited every one of the geople with the exception of the fel�r that
T-ir. Burris had Visited and the fert people that happened to be on vacation
or not horne during the time he i�ient around �iith the petition.
MOTIOPI by 2�1r. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr, Oquist, tha.t the Planning
CoMmis�ion receive the petition. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye�
the motion carried unanimously.
Mr, Joe Randall, 1210 riississippi Street N�, said that he had lived
in Fridley raost of his life. He said that the original o�.•rner of the
property in question sold the property ��rith the main intent that the
property reMain residential. He said that the area consisted of
33 quality homes that taere occupied by people t•tho care for their
nei�kborhood.
r4s, i-Sarge Daun� 65t�6 Lucia Lane, said that they nad moved to their
present home from 31�th and Johnson Street NE, and the main reason
�aras.to �et avray from the very problems that the proposed restaurant
rrould create.
Ms, Loretta Lane� 113z Mississippi Street NE� said that they had
lived at that address for 28 years. She said that they built e�ith
the intention of living at that address for a long tine. She said
that they did not like the idea of having spot zoning in the area.
She aZso said-that it ivon7.d be very inconvenient to have the
restaurant driverray directly across fror,t their driverray, She said
that their home i•rould probably lose their access onto 2dississzppi
street because of the traffic that rrould be �enerated by the
restaurant.
Mr, Russell Burris� 1150 P�iississippi Street NE, pointed out that
he presently� also� had enough trouble �ettin� out of his drive��;ay.
He didn�t like the possibility of having access drive•,�ays for a
restaurant located across from his property either. He said that
there rJas already too much traffic in that area. I3e didn't feel
it tivould be feasible to put a restaurant in that location� he said
it i��ould only add to already hazardous situation.
Mr. Terry Daun of 6546 Lucia Lane said that if Mr. Johnson ��rould sell
the lots for a reasonabZe price, he ivould be able to sell the lots
for residential development.
Dirs. Long� Dellrrood Drive, said that there ��rere many little children
that lived in the area. She said that presen�ly the parents have to
constantly be a���are of the traffic that ���as in the area. She felt
that the restaurant rrould only add to that traffic problem� She said
that the safety of the children should be considered.
PLAITP�I7I•1G COA4P�IS�IOM_P�[I;FTIN� - JUPTC 7, 1s7� Pame 7
Mr. Donald Meltonz g80 Mis�issippi Street PIF, •said that they have
lived in the area since 1952. He said that if the property rras
rezoned� it should be con�idered that Mississippi Street and
Hi�hrray 65 t��ould develop into a major commercial corner. He said
it r�asn't viable tha.t only one restaurant rrould be allorred in an
area i+ithout expanding the entire area into a commercial center, FIe
said that he r�as totally against that concept.
Mr. Robert Zuehlke� 1260 P�fississippi Street NE� said that he has lived
at that address for 15 years. He said that the traffic on Missis�ippi
Street ���as already so great and to add something like the proposed
restaurant l��ould only coMpound r�any of the existing problems, He felt
that there ti•ras enou�h property available in the area that ti��as already
commercially zoned. He coulun't understand irhy a person ���ould rrant
to locate a restaurant in a residential area. Ae said that compxehensive
planning had been done for zoning and he felt that I'ridley should abide
by that plan. Iie said that he agreed that the property could have been
sold years previous if it had been reasonably priced,
Mr. P4ear7. Crosser� 6565 Lucia Lane T�IE� said that they already had a
traffic problem in the area only added to by the Ynights of Columbus
Hall and the area didn�t need another establishnent that �rould add
even more traffic. He said that he had bought a home nine years ago
�rith plans of staying in the area. Hoz�rever� if the traffic increases
much more� he �vould have to consider looking elset��here for housing,
Ms. Kathy Nelson� 6366 Pierce Street� said that she represented many
of the neighbors crho vrere all opposed to the rezoning. She said that
they had.signed the petition and they �vanted the Commission to kno�=�
that they rrere at the meeting and �rere in opposition.
Mrs. Robert Bystrom� 6533 Lucia Lane NE� said that another reason for
her opposition to the proposed restaurant raas that she h�ted to see
all the beautiful trees removed fro�n that property. She said that
they not only added beauty to the neighborhood but also acted someivhat
as a sound barrier.
A person in the audience asked 1�rhat �vould become of the J's Restaurant
located north on Highlvay 65.
Mr. Lobman said that the proposed restaurant would not be anything like
that restaurant. He said it would probably be closed.
The person from the audience asked erhy he didn�t keep the restaurant
rahere it tivas presently located rather than moving it furtlier South
against the v�ishes of the neighborhood.
PLATIITIPIG ('Ot4t�IISSION ML'''TTPdG - JUDIr 7, 1978 Pa�;e 8
T�lr. Lobman said that there erere too many rules and re�ulations that
had to be followed by restaurant ovrners in the pre:�ent times that
a lot of the conditions they feared could never happen.
Mr. Lobman said that one of
appealing to the restaurant
the property. He said that
as possible.
the aspects of the pronerty that was most
v�as the fact that there o�ere many trees on
they planned to keep as many of the trees
Mr. Lobman said that he didn't feel that the restaurant d�ould or
could have an adverse effect on as many people as si�ned the
petition, He said that figuring 26 houses per block� 26� signatures
c�ould mean that signatures crould have been obtained from ten blocks
of homes� he didn't feel that the restaurant could effect that much
area.
PQr. Lobman agreed that there raas a lot of traffic at t�fississippi Street
and High���ay 65. He said. that ��ras ��rhy he felt it v�ould be a good
location for a restaurant. FIe said the traffic problem vras another
reason he felt that it vfas an ideal commercial location. He said
that he v�ould never vrant to build a home at that location to raise
a family. He didn't feel that it rras at all suited for an R-1 Zoning.
Mr. Lobman said that the point rras raised that customers v�ould have to
make a left turn to enter the establishment, He said that many
establishments existed that people had to turn left to enter.
Mr. Lobman didn't feel that any consultant �=�ould consider that corner
of P�4ississippi Street and Iiighrray 65 as a residential corner.
Mr. I,obman said that the restaurant garbage ivould be picked up every
day. He didn�t feel that there �vould be any problems of rodents� bugs�
etc.
t4r. Lobman said that the restaurant ivould have green areas. He said
they ��+ould have an underground sprinkling system, maintenance service�
fertilizer companies that take care of the green areas of the
restaurants, shrubs� etc. He said that the landscaping of the
restaurants are excellent.
Mr. Lobman said that� in summary� he did not agree �vith a lot of the
points of objections that had been presented.
Mr. 1Yyman Smith said that he agreed tivith a lot of the points that had
been made. He said that the people that lived close to that corner
would sign the petition to keep the property in its present state
because it i��as a beautiful piece of property. Hovaever, he pointed out
that Mr. Johnson was the person paying the taxes on that property and
he� also� had some rights to make use of,that property.
PLAPIPiINC COt�[t4I°SIOP1 MPPTIPI(� Ji1PIT' 7, 19,2�3 � Pa�?e 9
Mr. Smith said that.it ti��as very obvious that the property tivas not a
logical residential site. He said that it �vas an obvious commercial
site� He said that the proposed restaurant lvas a good use for th'at
site. He Uaid that it iva� a family restaurant that could be reasonably
located in a residential area.
Mr. Smith �aid that the traffic �aas already existent in the area. He
said the Courts have lon� said that the increase of traffic because
of the use of property r�as not an er.cuse for not doing it. He said
that aesthetics has never been used as criteria for denizl of a
reauest. Ae said that the reaue�t had a minimal problem in the area
of�health and safety of the public.
Mr. Henry t✓�etcher, 6500 Pierce Street 1`Tr, said that he l�as definitely
against any type of spot rezonin� in Fridley, IIe said that Mr. Johnson
kner� the property eras zoned R-1 rrhen he purchased it. He said that
Mr. Johnson could have sold that property as R-1 if he rrould have been
vrilling to accept the dollar value of R-1 property. He said that it
��as felt by some of the neighbors that the main reason he hasn�t sold
the property ���as because he ti+fanted to se11 the land as commerci�l and
not residential. He said that he �°ras definitely against the request.
MOTION by Mr. Storla, second.ed by t1s. Schnabel� to close the Public
Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye� the motion carried
un2siimously. The Public Hearing 1•ias closed at 8:l}8 P.td.
Mr. Langenfeld comnented that it rras his opinion that sone of the
statements regardin� the rezoning rrere assumptions, He said that he
didn't feel the petitioner �°ras trying to mislead anyone c�ith his
statements abouts the tuxes� etc. He asked v�hat the Staff had to say
regarding the request,
Mr. Boardman said that it could be a useable residential area. He said
that if a rezoning rras granted on that property, ihere rrould be enough
deraand to have to consider the sarie reauest for the other corners
of Highlray C5 and t•4ississippi. ??e said that it i�rould result in similar
problems that tivere present rahere the corner t�ras commercial and the
remainder of the block E°ras residential.
Mr, Boardr�an said that it lvas spot development and FridIey has been
trying to get array froM that type of thing. He said that it taasn�t
viei•red as a good rezoning.
Ms. Schnabel said that she had all•rays i�rondered tivhy that corner had
never been developed. She said that it vras a beautiful corner and felt
it rrould make nice home sites. She pointed out that many trees would
siill have to be removed to construct three separate houses. She said
it Evas possible that the same number of trees t��ould have to be removed
for ihe three individual hone sites as would have to be removed to
construct the proposed restaurant.
Mr, Peterson asked tirhen the lots ivere zoned R-1.
Mr. Boardman said that it lvas zoned R-1 in 1955 and has allvays been zoned
R-1.
PLANNING COMMISSION MG�TING - JUNF. 7 1978 Page 10
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist, that the Planning
Commission recommenc. denial o� the consideration of a rezoning request,
ZOA �78-05, by Gerald G., Johnson: Rezone Lots 5,6, 7 and the westerly
136.50 feet of Lot 4, Lucia Lane Addition, from R-1 (single family
dwelling units) to C-2 (General Business Areas), for a proposed
restaurant site, the same being 1145 Mississippi Street NE, for the
follcwing reascns:
1) It would definitely be a spot rezoning;
2) There would be a traffic prcblem (which already existed);
3) It would interfere with the bike trails;
4) It could have an effect on the depreciation of the homes
in the area;
5) It would have an environmental impact in regards to noise
and aesthetic values.
Mr. Langenfeld said that he fully realized the rights of the property
owner, but he felt that the particular type of zoning request should
be denied.
Mr. Peterson asked the petitioner if he would consider operating the
restaurant on less than a 24-hour basis.
Mr. Lobman said that he didn't feel a reduction in hours would make
the neighborhood residents feel any differently about the proposed
restaurant.
Chairperson Harris said that he understood the petitioner's dilemma;
however, he felt that the rezoning of the property would r�ot be in
concert with the rest of the surrounding properties as it has been
developed. He said that the surrounding neighbors had the right to
expect that since the property was zoned as R-1, that the status quo
would be maintained. �r. Harris £elt that the property in question
could be developed in an R-1 manner. He indicated that because of
the above statement he would vote in favor of denial of the request.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Harris declared a break at 9:22 P.M.
Mr. Storla left the meeting because of prior commitments.
3. CONTINUED: ENERGY COMMISSION DISCUSSION
Mr. Oquist indicated that Mr. Storla had left some comments on the
Energy C"ommittee. He read the statements to the Commission:
Mr. Storla felt that people that should be considered
as members of the Energy Committee could be someone from the
American Legion and from the Leaque of Women Voters because
both of the groups' National Committee has recommended that
they get involved in the Energy problem.
Mr. Storla a2so felt that someone from the Cabel TV or the
Sun Newspaper should be a member of the Committee to act
as a public relations person.
PLANNING COMMISSIQN MEETING - JUNE 7, 1978 Page 11
Mr. Langenfeld said that in regards to the information provided by
Staff, he was ir agreement with the Purpose and Scope. He said
that as the section on Membership was stated was the manner he
would like to see the Energy Project Committee set up.
Mr. Langenfeld wanted to know what was needed as far as the
"Length of Project".
Mr. Boardman said that there should be some time period that the
Project Committee should work under.
Mr. Peterson said that he felt very strongly about the manning of the
Energy Project Committee. He said that some procedure should be looked
at in order to praperly man the Committee. He said that as the
Chairperson, Nir. Harris had the prerogative to appoint and as a Commission,
they would have the prerogative to suggest and approve.
Mr. Peterson said that whether or not everyone agreed about the
Energy situation; and whether or not everyone agreed that an Energy
Project Committee would arrive at answers, he felt that the situation
being a� it was and Energy being so vital to the total life style today,
it behooved the City of Fridley to put a project committee into action.
Chairperson Harris said thGt the City of Fridley should have an
Energy Policy.
Chairperson Harris said that a Chairperson and liaison person
should be decided upon.
Mr. Boardman suggested that a member of the Planning Commission be
chairperson of the Project Committee, primarily to give direction and
to report back to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Oquist said that it was possible that the Chairperson could be
an elected person that could appear at the Planning Commission meeting
to give the status report of the Project Committee.
Mr. Langenfeld said that perhaps a per_,on from the Planning Commission
could start the Project Committee and, at a later time, have the members
of the Committee elect a person to be the Ghairperson: He said that
the member of the Planning Commission could get the Committee going,
giving it proper di'rection, and then once established the members of
the Committee could take over.
Chairperson Harris said that since his main responsibility was to be
Chair•person of the Planning Commission, he would agree to start the
Committee off in the right direction, if that was what the Planning
Commission wanted him to do.
Mr. Boardman said that if the Chairperson of the Project Committee was
not a member of the Planning Commission, exactly what would the
responsibility of Staff be to that Committee. He wanted tc know exactly
What the Planning Commission wanted from Staff as to the support for
the Project Committee.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - JUDIE 7, 1978 Page 12
Ms. Schnabel felt that Staff support �vould be very important to the
Energy Prcject Committee.
Mr. Boardman said that someone was needed to give general direction
to the Energy Project Committee and to keep the members of the
Committee going in that direction. He said the reason he wanted a
person from the Planning Commission to be the Chairperson was so
that member could keep the Committee in a certain direction and only
ca11 on Staff when it was needed and not necessarily have a full-time
staff person available for the Project Committee.
Ms. Schnabel said that if the right person was chairing that Committee
it would proceed in that manner. She said that the Chairperson would
probably be so intensly interested in the subject that they would
probably do most of the work themselves.
Mr. Boardman said that a certain Scope o£ the Project Committee had
to be set up with a person that could keep the Committee in line with
that scope.
Mr. Peterson said that what was needed was someone like Pat Gabel
who did a fantastic job on the Sign Committee. He said that
Ms. Gabel kept that Committee moving with very little Staff help.
He said that the Sign Committee did such a great job because of this
individual.
Mr. Boardman sai@ that the Ener�gy Project Committee could obtain
Staff help, Staff liaison, and secretarial help. He said that it
would have to be recommended by the Planning Commission to the City
Council.
Chairperson Harris suggested that the Planning Commission start the
Energy Project Committee out and convene and run it for a period of
time until the Committee was completely organized and operating and
at that time, it can be decided if the Committee should have an
election o£ a Chairperson. He felt that someone from the Planning
Commission should initially Chair the Energy Project Committee. He
said-that he would go to City Council and request some Staff time
and secretarial help.
Ms. Schnabel said that the Staff assistance should be on an "as need"
basis an@ that secretarial help should be on a regular� basis.
She said that all the organizational work should be completed on the
Energy Project Committee before the first meeting so that the members
would know exactly what would be expected of them.
Mr. Peterson said that the Planning Commission should have all the
preliminary work done for the Energy Project Committee by July 26, Z978.
Mr. Boardman said that he would put together a package of ail the
information that he had thus far so that the members of the Planning
Commission could gather their thoughts to get the Energy Project
Committee into acticn.
PLANNING COMMISSSON MfiETING - JUNE 7 1978 Pa�e 13
MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Ms. Schnabel,that the
Planning Commission reCOmmend to City Council the need of
City Administrative help on an "as need" basi� and for secretarial
help on a regular basis for the Energy Project Gommittee; and
that the Planning Commission accept the volunteering of Mr. Harris
to act as Chairperson of the Energy Project Committee; ar.d that the
organization of the Energy Project Committee be completed by
July 26, 1978.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
4. CONTINUED: RECYCLING PROJECT REPORT:
Ms. Schrabel indicated that the item had been continued until such time
as a member of the Project Committee was present to answer questions.
She said that there was no one at the meeting from the Project Committee.
Mr. Langenfeld said that the person most involved was on vacaticn and
no one else was able to appear at the meeting that evening. He felt
that since the Planning Commission had questions regarding the
Recycling Project Report, a representative of that Committee should
be present to answer triose questions.
MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to continue the
item until such time that a member of the Project Committee could
be present to answer the questions of the Planning Commission.
Upon a voice vete, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
5. RECEIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:_
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Peterson, that the Planning
Comn:ission receive the May 9, 1978, minutes of the Community
Development Commission meeting.
Mr. Oquist said that the Advisory Standards for Land Use Regulations
was discussed at the meeting. He said that a motion was made by Connie
Modig and seconded by Kenneth Vos, to recommend to Planning Commission
that the minimum lot size for single family dwellings be no less
than 7,500 square feet and a minimum of 60 feet wide.
Mr. Oquist said that a motion wa� also made by Connie Modig and
seconded by A1 Gabel, to recommend to Planning Commission that the
existing Zoning Or•dinance was adequate for house size and that portion
of the Ordinance should not be changed.
He said that the recommendations were made primarily for the time
that the Zoning Ordinance would be reviewed.
PLANPIING COT�IMISSION MEETIPIG _JUNE 7, 1978 Page 14
Mr. Oquist said that a Motion was made by Kenneth Vos, and seconded
by Connie Modig, that a garage was a structure which could be
considered a necessity for basic living needs and should still be
required in the Ordinance.
Mr. Harris said that the section of the Ordinance that addressed
garages wa� most confusing.
Mr. Boardman said that the main problem with the Ordinance was
that it always stated lot sizes and he felt that density should be
involved.
Chairperson Harris suggested that any land platted after a certain
date could be addressed in regards to density rather than lot sizes.
He said that a special platting ordinance could be drawn up to handle
that type of thing. He said in that way each parcel could be
addressed by itself.
Mr. Boardman said that something had to be developed to address
redevelopment of properties.
Chairperson Harris said that he didn't think that all the remaining
commercial lots could be developed as commercial enterprises. He
said it was very possible that requests will be received to have
many of those lots rezoned to residential.
Mr. Oquist said that the point was that the Commission felt that
garages should be required.
Ms. Schnabel cited an example where the Appeals Commission felt it
had been right to waive the garage requirement. She said that there
were some situations that came up that would make it economically
unfeasible to build the garage at the time the house was constructed.
Mr. Oquist said that the citizens would still have the Appeals option.
Chairperson Harris said that the best way to handle the situation would
be by having a Platting Ordinance. He said that way rezoning hearings
would not have to be held.
Mr. Eoardman said that by addressing the density rather than lot size
would allow the flexibility to have lot size coordinate with the
entire development.
Mr. Feterson said
of the area being
idea.
it would take maximum advantage of the topography
developed. He felt that it would be a very workable
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye the motion carried unanimously.
The Community Development Commission minutes of May 9, 1978, were
received at 10:39 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MrETING - JUN� 7, 1978 Pa�e 15
6. REC�IVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMI
MOTION.by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, that the Planning
Comn,ission receive the Environmental Quality Commission minutes of
May 16, 1978.
Mr. Langenfeld referenced Page 6 of the minutes regarding the Highway
Chemical Uses and Effects -- Run-Off. He said that he had gone
to the area in question and noticed exactly where the salt was going
into the soil and running into the river. He said that from the
river side, actual discoloration of the soil and the soil running
into the river was obvious. He said that the situation appalled him.
Mr. Langenfeld said that he decided to go into the area again and
confirm to himself what he had seen. He said that when he approached
the area, there were "No Trespassing" signs posted. He, therefore,
did not go into the property.
Mr. Boardman stated that the storage area of highway chemicals
was in the flood plain as well as in the Critical Area. He suggested
that a report be requested from staff regarding any problems that
were being experienced in that area. He said that way they could
find out what tl�e State planned for that area as well as how it
would ef£ect the Critical Areas.
Mr. Langenfeld said that Ray Leek had all the information. He
said that Mr. Leek was going to review the information to find out
if there were other areas that could be effecting the Critical Areas.
I-le said the information was from the work Mr. Langenfeld had done
regarding the "Non-Point Source Pollution Introduction".
UPON A VOICE VCTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, that Staff be
directed to gather all the necessary information regarding possible
pollution problems in regards to the storage of highway chemicals
on East River Road, south of Interstate 694; and that a member of
the Environmental Quality Commission be allowed to attend when the
Staff person visited the site. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
the motion carried unanimously.
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:S & RECREATTON COA
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MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, that the Planning
Commission receive the May 22, 1978, minutes of the Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting.
FLANNTNG COMMISSION_MrETING _JUNE�_1978 Pape 16
Mr. Peterson referenced pages 9& 10 of �he minutes regarding the
Hillcrest Petition for park area. He said that a motion was
made by Jan Seeger, seconded by Robin Suhrbier, to recommend to
City Council, through Planning Commission, that the property in
question had never been park land, that it vras not part of the
park plan, so additional land should r,ot be purchased and developed,
and that the possibilities of selling the land be explored and
the money from the selling of the land and money that would be
al2ocated by the developer be put into escrow for providing access
under the railroad tracks to connect that neighborhood with the
entire park system.
Mr. Peterson said that the Parks & Recreation Commission wanted
the Planning Commission to indicate whether or not they concur
with the abov� motion, so that it would be £orwarded to the City
Council.
Chairperson Harris asked what was developing regarding Locke Fark
and the possibility of Anoka County taking over the maintenance of
same.
Mr. Boardman sai@ that he hadn't heard of anything regarding Locke
Park.
Chairperson Harris indicated that as Chair of the Planning Commission
he was requesting that the City Council respond to the previous
request on the possibility of turning Lock Park over to Anoka County
for maintenance and operation as per an or�iginal request made some
time ago.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
The minutes of the May 22, 1978, Parks and Recreation Commission
meeting were received at 11:00 P.M.
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, that the Planning
Commission concur with the motion made by Jan Seeger and seconded
by Robin Suhrbier regarding the Hillcrest Petition for park area.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
8. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 23. 1978
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist, that the Planning
Commission receive the Appeals Commission Minutes of May 23, 2978.
Ms. Sehnabel explained the discussion the Appeals Commission had
regarding a variance request by Mr. & Mrs. Bethel. She said that
after much deliberation, it was decided that the intent had been
carried out in terms of the notifying the adjacenC neighbors and
involved property owners. She said the Appeals Commission had been
uncomfortable handling the request because it was carried
through by the petitioners rather than through the normal channels.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEFTING - JliP7E 7, 1978 Page 17
Chairperson Harris indicated that a hand-carried notice was a proper
procedure of notification. He said that there had been a Supreme
Courth ruling that the hand-carried notice was one of the ways of
properly notifying involved property owners.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
9. OTHER
Mr. Langenfeld s2.id that the "ground breaking" ceremony for the new
Senior Citizen building located across from City Hall had been
very interesting.
ADJOURNP+IENT
Chairperson Harris declared the June 7, 1978, Planning Commission
meeting adjourned at 11:10 P.M.
Respect£ully submitted,
MaryLee Carhill
Recording Secretary
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE TNE
� PLANNTNG COMMISSION
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on 4lednesday, June 21, 1978 in the Council
Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of:
� Consideration of a Proposed Preliminary
Plat, P.S. #78-05, Munn's Hillcrest Additian,
by Timothy t4unn and Todd Blair, being a
replat af Lots 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10> Block
2, Hillcrest Addition> all lying in the South
Half of Section 10, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley,
County of Anoka, Minnesota.
Generally located in the 7100 Block on the
East side of East River Road.
Myone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter will
be heard at this meeting.
RTCHARD H. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: June 7, 1978
June 14, 1978
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Address j''�/ �ek 1Z602 ,l�aS'_RiNSDAt.�' f!/i✓. �'SyaZ
Telephone( Number S-�1/�394� __ _ ___
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Rezoning
Special Use Pennit
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. i�rary $ Pinal Plat
Streets ox Allcy
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Street LocaYion of fropexty %�p�-� �G•-� �/'-"" ' .
Legal Description of Property,�s-�S� L� �� G%--y�� L� � ��
Present Zoning Classification �1 —� Existing Use of Propexty �i'is'�'
Acreage oi Property �-7�C�h,c.i Describe briefly the proposed zoning classificatio;:
or type of use and improvement proposed ����
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Has the present applicant greviously sought to rezone, plat, oUtain a lot split or
variance or speciai use permit on the subject site or part of it?�yes no.
iVhat was requested and when? ' �
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The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of a21 residents 1nd owners of property
witi�in 300 feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attacl�ed to tliis application.
(b) This application must Ue signed by ali owne�•s of Liie property, or an esplanation
given iehy this is not tlie case. (c) 12espoiisiUility for any defect in the proceedings
7resulting from the failure to list the namcs and addresses of all residents and
properYy oiJners of property in question, belongs to thc undcrsigned. .
A sfietch of proposed property and structure must be drai��i and attached, showing the
following: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot.
3. Uimensions of property, proposeci structure, and front and side setUacks.
4. Strect Names. 5. Location and usc of aJjacent existing buildings (within 300 fect':
The uncicrsigned'hercUy declares that all the facts and representations stlted in tiiis
upp�ication are truc and corrcct. � ) �
patc Piled � Datc o£ 1lcari
RICHFIELD BF
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Flnnning Conunissiou Approvcd City Council Approvcd
(dates) Ucnicd (d�tcs) Dciiicd
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POLICY STATEt4ENT ON PI�ItY. PF.ES FOR •L1tND 5UIIDIVISZONS
• The park fee for residential subdivisions is $300.00 per lot to be
paid at the time the City approves the final,plat (raw land v�alue
of $10,500.00/acre). �
The parY, fce on commercial and industrial subdivisions platted after
Febzuazy 24, 1977 (Ordinance tdo. 633) is at the rate of 1.38 cents
($0.0138) pet square foot to be collected on each lot separately when
buildinq permits are issued (raw land value of $20,000/acre).
Typical Agreement to be Executel at Time of Plat Approv�l for
Commercial or Zndustrial Zoned Property: '
PARK FEE AGREEDSENi
The undersigned understands that according to the City Platting
Ordinance the following land dedication or cash payment equiva-
lent, is required to plat con¢nercial oz industrial zoned property:
38 of the gross area of the property to be subdivided.
It is Eurther understood that the land dedication or cash payment
equivalenT. is at the discretion of the City.
It is agreed that a cash paycnenL at the rate of per
square £oot will be paid separately for each lot when the building
pezmits are issued for the following described plat:
The undersigned further agrees to notify all £uture propezty owners
or assigns of the cash pay�ment requirement.
2/77
Revised: 6/2/77
Signature (Property Owner)
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7201 Hast River Road NE
Fridley, h1N 55432
Ms. Barbara Thompson
7155 East River Road NE
Fridley, hiN 55432
Riveraood School
7150 East River Road NE
Fridley, bL�1 55432
Mr. Donald N. Meil
7092 Hickory Drive NE
Fridley, h�i1 55432
Fir. Jim A1cGuire
7068 Hickory Drive NE
Fridley, PtN 55432
Nr. Harland Berry
7099 Hickory Drive NE
Fridley, PtN 55432
Todd Blair
P.O. BOX 22502
Robbinsdale, Mn 55422
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b1r. Stephen 0'Quinn
7135 East River Road NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. James Holman '
71o5 East River Road NE
Fridley, t�IIJ 55432
Mr. Alan H. Crepeau
7084 Hickory Drive NE
Fridley, hLY 55432
Leslie Blinco
7067 Hickory Drive NE
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Mr. Harqld J. Paul
7065 Ea�t River Road NE
Fridley, b1N 55432
Mr. John J. Honzl
7076 Hickory Drive NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Marie Carrol, Abraham
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7091 Hickory ➢rive NE
Fridley, MN 55432
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RECYCLING PROJECT COMMITTEE REPORT
The Recycling Project Committee of the Environmental Quality Gommission
proposes that a Coilection .Center for Recyclables be established in the City of
Fridley. The Comnittee asics that it be located on City property east of the
Columbia Area if it is compatible with City plans for that area.
The Committee offers the following reasons for establishing such a
center• �
to show fellow citizens how much material we throw away
to provide a channel whereby throwaways can be re-used
to save our natural resources (especially metals and wood)
to save energy (aluminum can be recycled using less than 5% of the
energy needed to process aluminum from ore)
to reduce the amount dumped into landfills
to reduce the amount of non-degradable materials dumped into 7andfills
(tin cans take about 100 years to break down; aluminum
cans take about 400 years to disintegrate; glass does
not deteriorate.)
to reduce the cost of solid waste disposal
to make,money from recycling.useable materials
The Committee plans to coltect the following:
newspapers rtietal cans
corrugated paper glass containers
a1uminum leaves (compost)
We suggest that at the outset the Center be open from 10 to 2 P.M. on
Saturdays. We plan to invite organizations to staff the Center at these times
so that collecCibles will be correctly sorted and stacked. We feel two persons
would be adequate for this task. The organization manning the center will receive
the pay for the materials collected that day. The Recycling Project Committee
would be initially responsible for administering the Collection Center.
We have taked with Dick's Recycling of Brooklyn Park regarding collection
and pick-up of materials. �ick will provide a roll-off box and barrels for the
papers and cans and bottles. He will pick up.,and weigh the materials and pay the
organization which has sorted them the previous Saturday.�*
Our organization procedure is based on the Edina Recycling Center which has
been open for over seven years and is now earning $200 to $300 a month, over their
expenses. It was begun by valunteers because of their concern for dumping useable
materials into landfills. These 4 or 5 volunteers scheduled organizations to take
their turns manning the center. The organizations would in turn, get the profits
for that day. Since the profit is based on the amount of materials collected, the
organizations would gather all they could and encourage their friends to bring
their recyclables. The procedure proved successful because Edina's Recycling
Center is now manned from 2 to 5 P.P4. every day and 10 to 3 P.M. every Saturday by
2 to 6 employees. The center earns enough to pay their wages and $200 to $300 per
month in addition.
The area of Edina's Recycling Center is about 60 by 15 feet. It is not
fenced. It includes two "roll-off" boxes for newspapers and magazines, one truck
for corrugated paper and 20 cubic-yard bins for bottles and cans. It is not messy
even though it is not enclosed by a fence and even though people leave their bags
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of recyclables for the attertdants to sort.
We are requesting a fenced-in area. We believe that a contained area
can be kept n�ater than an open area. However, since the Collection Center will
be open only from 10 to 2 P.M. on Saturdays we are asking that a box measuring
3 to 4 cubic feet be placed outside the fence so that people can bring their re-
clyclables to the area at their convenience. The materials can 6e sorted by the
attendants on Saturday when they come.
Expenses for the Collection Center are minimal, However, some signs are
necessary.. Trie following are requested:
Newspapers Corrugated -
Magazi.nes � Bottles Aluminum
ONLY Paper _
Amber Clear. Green Metal Rings Cans Must be
Glass Glass Glass Off Bottles. � flattened
and a few signs to indicate the location of the center: ��
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Collection Collection •
Center Center
In order to inform citizer�s of the opening and location of the Center, r�e wi1�1
need about 2,000 flyers to be handed out at local stores and possibly elementary
schools. The cost for these would be $23.30 or $14.35 if half-size.
*Dick will guarantee $10 a ton
split the difference with us.
will pay us $10 +$5, or $15 a
pay us $20 a ton.
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for paper.. When the price is higher, he will
That:is, when the paper company pays $20, he
ton ; or if the company pays $30 a ton, he will
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Submitted by:
Connie Matcalf, Chairperson
Elaine Jensen
Yirginia 5teinmetz _ �
Fran Swanson
Jane Hayano
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MEETING
JUNE 1, 1978
MEMBERS PR�SENT: Ned Storla, Mary Jo Dobson, ?fary Van Dan
MENiBERS ABSENT: David Thiele
OTfIERS PRESENT: Pete Fleming, AdminisCrative Assistant
Larry Dobson, Tenant/Landlord Project Committee
Chairperson
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Storla called the meeting to order at 7:50 P.M.
APPROVAL OF MAY 4, 1978 IiUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES
MOTION by Mary Jo Dobson, seconded by Mary Van Dan, to approve the
DSay 4, 1978 Human Resources Co�ission minuCes as written. Mr. Storla
asked for any corrections or additions. :ary Van Dan stated a change
should be made o^. page 2, third paragraph. She had stated that hayne
Simoneau and Mike 0'Bannon would not be at the meeting but their
support would be by letter. The minutes read they ��ill be at the
meeting.
?ir, Storla asked fox any other corrections or additions.
Ttary Jo Dobson stated that on page 7 the last paragraph after the
zaords "3,000 housing units" the words "200/month average" should
be added which would change $600 a month to $600,000 a month.
:fary Van Dan moved that the minutes be approved as cnrrected. Mary
Jo Dobson seconded the motion. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye,
the-motion carried unani�aously.
1. REVIETJ MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT
Mr. Storla asked if there were any questions regarding this item.
Mary Van Dan stated she thought it was very explicit.
Mary Jo Dobson asked if the memorandum was strictly a committee and
not tfie arbitration commiCtee.
Mr. Storla stated yes that was correct.
I�iary Van Dan asked who would be on the committee.
Mr. Dobson stated it would be the tenant/landlord committee.
Pa e 2 HUMAN RrSOURCES COMMISSZON MEETING JUNE 1 1978
Mr. Storla asked Mr. Dobson if we pass this would they want to keep
it stating the Tenant/Landlord Conunittee or would they like to say
"or appropriate body". He asked what his feeliugs were on this.
?�4t. Dobson stated he had no objecCions to that wording. Iie didn't
think the Committee would either. Commission Idilson had suggested
drawing it with the Committee xather than the Human Resources
Commission because of the structure of the Committee, and because
there Was representation from landlords and tenants who are more
aware of the problems with housing.
;•lary Van Dan stated that the Planning Commission would not want a
lot of committees and maybe we should lnsertthe words "or appropriate
committee".
Mr, Dobson stated there would be no problem wih that as long as it
remains a contract.
Mr. Storla stated maybe we should expand all the matters in this
memo.
Mr. Pleming asked if there was any way to guess numbers on this -
could we be talking about 30 issues a month, or year or what�
t.ir. Dobson stated we n+ould be easily tal%ing about 30 complaints a
month. The Depaetment felt it �aould be good to l�ave a body to resolve
them. A Zot of probletns that come in are not discrimination cases.
He had talked to the Commissioner about fiaving the Human Resources
Commission on standby wfien someone has a oroblem they can go through
tiie Tenant/Landlord Committee and sameone tfiere will determine if it
is a discrimination problem or not.
Mary Van Dan stated that somebody has to be an expert.
�, Dobson stated yes, that is where Mr. Greco's staff would come
in. They would work directly with us to advise us.
Tlr. Fleming asked if item 5 and this item on the agenda could be
tied together.
1�lr. Storla stated yes, they could be tied together. He stated we
had better go to the goals later. If there was any way we could
work into that that anything to do with housing could be handled
by a Tenant/Landlord Su6committee - whether we could combine the
two. We want the whole thing but the housing will be handled by
the Tenant/Landloxd Committee.
Mary Jo Dobson suggested we go ahead with the housing and take care
of that and then go on with the others.
?�fary Van Dan stated she would 13ke one issue to get full attention
and do a good job.
Paqe 3 AUMAt3'RGSOURCES'CONL"tISSION ME�TING 3UNE 1, 1978
.1ary Van Dan stated on page 1 after landlord/tenant program inserC
"or another appropriate body".
Mr. DoUson asked when it goes to the Planning Co�nission then does
planning just go on what we have decided or can they make additional
changes at their discretion.
Mr, Pleming stated they would do whatever they wanted inclvding
kiYling it.
Mr. Storla stated it was not that way when it came to variances
or whatever. &Te make-motions to not approve things. i don't
think that they would kill it.
Mary Van Dan stated the Council could override the Planning Cormnission.
Mr. Dobson asked when it gets to the Gouncil could the Council make
changes.
Mr. Storla stated yes they could.
Mr. Dobson stated the question is whether or not the City Council is
going to not apgrove it as a Tenant/Landlord Committee = we want it
wiChin the agreement wfiere iC goes,
Mary Van Dan stated yes so it is not killed for lack of any other
place to go.
?4r. Dobson stated the idea was that we would stop being involved in
disvutes at all. I don`t want to see this thing lost.
�fary Van Dan moved tfiat the Human Resources Commission approve the
memo and pass it onto the Planning Commission and that it be reco�mended
that it be passed on to the Council.
Mary Dobson seconded the motion.
Mr. Storla asked for any discussion.
rfr, Storla stated when we pass it we should make sure we interpret
it that the actual cor¢nittee is up to the discretion of the Human
Resources Commission. The two things we are passing on are we interpret
it as an option being open and it is our intention to pass it to the
Tenant/Landlord Committee. !Fe are going to have two different panels,
the Arbitration Committee and the Tenant/Landlord Committee.
hlr. Storla asked for any other comments.
Mary Van Dan stated her interpretation was that the memorandum of
agreement can stand Uy itself. We axe not losing time.
Mr. Dobson stated this will take care of the most horxendous problems.
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PaQe 4 RU"1l�N RESOURCF.S COMMISSION MFETING JUNE 1, 1978
t?r. Storla stated we had better change Committee to Commission in
the memorandum.
A motion having been previously made, upon a voice vote� all voting
aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Storla asked for any other discussion.
Mr, Eleming suggested.on number II that the 30 day waiver agreement
should be changed also at the end of second line beginning of third -
request by some employers - take out employers and make it more citizen
oriented.
Mr: Storla stated that this is all informational and it is a part of
history and not what we are talking about. We could, however, delete
the whole sentence. Or he stated we couLd delete the whole part and .
start with the second sentence.
Ptr. Dobson suggested skipping the whole paragtaph.
I4ary So Dobson stated she would like to leave the second sentence in
and take the first part out.
Mary Jo Dobson moved that we cross out su¢h attempts and change to
intend to resolve.
Mr. DoUson suggested leaving the whole thing in there from the standpoint
of getting it through - it e�cplains wh�� ther:e is a 30 day waiaer.
It might fielp the Planning Co�ission understand. -
IIr. Storla stated if the question came up we could state it does not
affect the agreement at a1L
i�fary Jo Dobson withdrew her motiom.
23r. Storla asked for any other discussion.
Mr. Storla stated as long as our name is on it, even though we are not
liable, he would like to see the membership expanded so any of us could
go to the meetings.
Mr. Storla stated we do have a motion and a second to apptove the memo.
Upon a voice voting, all voting aye, the motion passed unanimously.
2. DZSCUSSION OF PROPOSAL FOR TF.NANT/I.ANDLORD ARBITRATION PANEL
Mr. Storla asked Mr. Dobson for a status report.
Mr. Dobson stated they are trying to estimate how much business they
would have and how much it would cost to operate it. !�?ouid a member
have to be paid by the arbitration rules. Our last meeting was canceled.
John Swanson, the Co-Chairperson, could not make it so we did have a
meeting. T.?e talked to a few members and we are trying to compile
all the information we have to make it easy for the Planning Commission
Pa�e 5 HUMAN R�SOURCES COI�AIISSION MEETING 7UNE l, 1978
and City Council members and Human Resources Commission to see the
rationale why we made the decisions we did. Hope£ully we can
have it ready by fall. We are having a meeting in June.
3. REPORT FROM TENANT/LANDLOP,D PROJECT COMNITTEE
This item was renorted above.
4. AISCUSSION OF STPSF PERSON TO WORK IdITH TENANTS
This item was reported ahove.
5. REVIEW'OF H[R�L4N RESOURCES COMMISSION GOALS AND OBJECTIVES
:�ir. Storla stated he would like to put Che goals and objectives in
priority order. He called Anoka County and they sent him out a survey
on what they did. He stated we can either go through these now ox
come back next meeting and pick out our top S in the meantime.
It was agreed that the Commission would pick out their top 5 and
discuss them at the next meeting.
Mr. Storla stated he would contact Mr, Thiele and let him know.
6. OTHER'BUSINESS
lir. Storla stated on the Citizen of the Year award he talked to the
people who are setting up the town mee*_ing and it is just going to
tie a�Liss Fridley Pageant this year. The only other thing is we could
work it into the parade. We could call Win Stephens DaCSUn to get a
truck and put a volunteer on the truck in the parade. Last year we
called it Volunteer of the Year award,
:4ary Van Dan asked if we could give an award at a Council meeting,
Tfr. Storla stiated another item was to do something on Haxold Selgum
on his service. tJe c.ere going to put something in the Sun Newspaper
but maybe a letter would be hetter.
2'.ary Van Dan suggested a letter from each mewber would be appropriate.
Mr. Storla stated that was a good idea.
A discussion was held about a Mr, Fridley pageant. Mr. Storla asked
if the Co�ission should send a letter about our concern.
Mr. Fleming sUggested that maybe Mr. �torla could send a letter under
his own name.
Mr. Storla suggested thinking about it and discussing it at our next
meeting.
Mr. Storla said he would put it on the agenda for the next meeting.
Pa e 6 HUMAN RESOURCES CO21MISSZON MEETING JUNE 1 1978
Tir. Storla said regarding M.S. 363 he had called the Human Resources
Department to get a copy of 363 and they stated there was a$2.00
charge for each copy. He_asked Mr. Fleming if the City could acquire
a cooy for the Commission.
The Recor.ding Secretary stated she would be glad to Xerox a copy
fzom the law office and give it to Mr. Pleming.
;�Ir. rleming stated he would make copies for the next meeting.
Mr. Fleming stated it might be interesting to have someone come in
and talk about the history of human resources.
Mr. Storla suggested that Harold Selg� or Bill Scott be invited back
to give a talk.
Mr, ileming suggested putting a time limit on it.
:-tary Van Dan suggested maybe it could be the first thing on the agenda.
Mr. Storla stated he would ask Mr. Scott to come back.
ISr. Storla suggested that the Commission write up a sheet on all of
cur backgrounds so we know aahat people have done in the past.
P1r. Storla asked for any other business.
Mary Van Dan asked if we could get copies of pievious minutes of the
meetings.
Mr.. Storla stated he would check into it.
There 6eing no other business, Piary Van Dan moved the meAting be
adjourned, ?Sary .To Dobson seconded it. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, the motiou carried unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 9:20 P."I.
Respectfully submitted,
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Gayle�E. Goben
CITY OF FRIBLEY
APPEALS COMMISSION MGETING - JUNE 13, 1978
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Schnabei called the June 13� 1978� Appeals Commission meeting to
order at 7:35 P.M,
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: P1emeZ� Kemper� Schnabel� Gabel� Barna
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Ron Rolden� Building Inspector
APPROVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 23, 1978:
MOTION by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Kemper� to approve the Appeals Commission
minutes of May 23, 19785 as written. Upon a voice vote� a11 voting aye� the
motion carried unanimously.
L REOUEST FOR VARIANCE OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE. SECTION 205.053,4
CONVERSION OF AN
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ARTHUR STREET NE, FRIDLEY, MN.
ITY� 6573 ARTHUR STREET NE� FRIDLEY� MN 55432).
MOTION by Mr. Barna� seconded by Mr. Kemper� to open the Public Hearing. Upon
a voice votey a11 voting aye� the motion carried unanimously. The Public Heazing
was opened at 7:36 P.M.
ADMINISTRATIVE STAtF REPORT
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.053 (4B) requiring a side yard setback of 10 feet from a
Living area.
Public purpose served is to maintain a minimum of 20 feet between living
areas in adjacent structures and 15 feet between garages and living areas
in adjacent structuxes to redUCe exposure to conflagration of fire. It is
also to allow for aesthetically pleasing open areas around residential
structures.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
None Stated (It was determined in the course of the Appeals Cotmnission
meeting that the Flardship was that they needed the additional room for
a growing family,)
C. ADMINISTR4TIVE STAFF REVIEW:
Field measurements show 72.5 feet from this house to the curb. The fronY
yard setback from the property line is about 61 feet with approximately 12
feet for bouLevard, The house to the north at 6583 Arthur Street is 31
feet from the petitioner's house. It should be noted that this neighboring
house has no garage� and an attached garage is a possibility. The
petitioner proposes to build a 24' X 24� detached garage in the rear off
the alley with doors that do not open on the alley. The alley is not hard
surfaced, but appears to be used xegularly by most of the neighbors.
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APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 13, 1978 PaQe 2
Mr. Gerrety explained to the Commission that he presently had a single-car
garage that he wanted to convert into a family-room Living area, lie said that
he would be constructing a detached 24�x24� garage to the rear of the property.
Mr. Iiolden pointed out D'o the Cormnission members that the neighboring
house at 6583 Arthur Street NE did not have a garage. He said that� without any
variances� the neighbor would be able to construct an approximately 21 foot
attached garage.
Mr. Gerrety said that the hbuse next door (6583) was rental property.
Ae said that he had talked to the owner of the property.
Chairperson Schnabel aslied if the people living in the adjacent house
owned any cars.
Mr. Gerrety said that they presently had two cars. He explained on the
picture (in the file) where they parked their cars.
Mr. Gerrety said that he had signed statements from Mr. Lindberg who ovm ed
the house to the North of Mr, Gerrety and one from the people who owned the house
and lot and an extra lot to the East from Mr. Gerrety indicating that they had
no objections to his plans.
Chairperson Schnabel read into the minutes the signed statements that
Mr. Gerrety presented to the Commission.
"As the property owner living to the East of T. Gerrety� we have
no objections whatsoever to the requested variances on his property.
Roger K. Whitnauer,��
"I as property owner of 6583 Arthur Street NE� have no objections
to Mr. Gerrety building a detached garage on the SE corner of his
property and converting the existing attached garage into 2iving
space. Vernon Lindberg.'�
MOTION.by Ms. GabeL� seconded by Mr. PZeinel� to receive the signed
statements from adjacent neighbors submitted to the Appeals Commission by
Mr. Gerrety. Upon a voice vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Schnabel explained to Mr. Gerrety that the statements wouLd be
made part of the file tcept at City Hall.
(�tairperson Schnabel asked how Long the house next door had been rental
groperty.
Mr. Gerrety said that he didn't know for sure, He said that he has only
lived at 6573 Arthur Street NE for three years and the same family has lived
there the whole time.
Ms. Gabel asked if the north wall of the pzoposed converted living area
would have to be fire wall.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 13, 1978 Page 3
Mr. Holden indicated that a fire wa1L was not required; however he said that
the Appeals Commissiorr could make it a stipulation.
Chairperson Schnabel said that if the adjacent neighbor constructed an
attached garage� it would be safer for the Gerrety�s to consider having the North
wa11 a fire wall.
Mr. Plemel asked if the existfng driveway would be removed.
Mr. Gerrety said that Arthur Street NE at that location was very travelled.
He said that he wanted to only remove ten feet of the driveway that was next to
the house and leave the remainder. He said that there was a schooi and park across
the street and he felt it would be best to have as much off street parking as
possible. He felt that the additional off street parking would be best for
guest parking for his residence,
Mr. Gerrety pointed out that there were two neighboring houses that had
off-street guesC parking,
Mr. Holden indicated that in the last year there had been many complaints
regarding allowed front yard parking. He said that the driveway being Left-in
constituted front yard parking. He said it was up to the Appeals Commission
as to whether Mr. Gerrety would be allowed to leave the existing drive-way or not.
Mr, Plemel said that thexe had been no hardship stated in the AcMinistrative
Report. He said that there had to be a hardship before a variance could be
granted.
Mr, Gerrety said that the existing house was Lacking in cLoset space� living
space� and room in general. He said that with a growing family he needed more
living space and felt that it was the best way to obtain that needed space.
He said that he also needed a double garage.
Mr. Aolden pointed out that even with the proposed garage� the lot coverage
would be 21�,
Mr. Barna felt that what Mr. Gerrety was proposing was the most economically
feasible way to go. He said that there would be a lot of blacktop driveway in
the front yard (62+ feet)� however� there were other driveways on the same street
with the same type of front yard parking, so the request did not seem unreasonable.
Mr. Barna agxeed that it would be better not to park on the street since there was
a park and school located across the street.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper� seconded by Mr. Barna� to close the Public Hearing.
Upon a voice vote} all voting aye� the raotion carried unanimously. 1t�e Public
Hearing was closed at 8:00 P.M.
AYP�ALS COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 13 1978 PaQe 4
Chairperson Schnabel said that in addition to the comments that had already
been made� she re-emphasized that the adjacent property located at 6583 was
currently rental property and had been for at least three years (that the
petitioner knew of) and until that property changed hands the liklihood of a
garage being added on was probably negligible, However� she said that anything
could change at any time.
Mr. Holden felt that at some point in time a garage would be added on for
sure.
MOTZON by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Barna� that the Appeals Commission
approve the request for a variance of the Fridley City Code� Section 205.053�4B,
to reduce the side yard setback for Iiving area from the required ten feet to
Eive feet to allow the conversion of an existing attached garage into living area�
located on Lot 27 and the South � of Lot 28� Block 4� Oak Grove Addition� the
same being 6573 Arthur Street NE} EYidley� MN 55432� with the stipulations that
the North wa11 be a fire wall� with no windows; and that ten feet of the
existing driveway next to the house be removed.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously,
Chairperson Schnabel indicated to Mr. Gerrety that the Appeals Commission
had approved his request for a variance and that he could apply for the
Building Permit. She indicated also that the conversion of the existing garage
into living area had to take place within 30 days after the completion of the
proposed detached garage. She said that the conversion of the existing garage
into living area had to be completed within 90 days after the completion of
the detached garage.
Chairperson Schnabel explained that the reason for that requirement was
to avoid the possibility of someone using both the existing garage and the
proposed garage as garages.
2.
FRIDLEY� MINNESOTA 55432).
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MOTION by Nh�. Sarna� seconded by Mr. P1eme1, to open the Public Hearing. Upon
a voice vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unani.mously. 11ie Public Hearing
was opened at 8:05 P.M.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 13 1978 Page 5
ADMINTSTRATIVE 5TAFF REPORT
A. PIlBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMEI3T: '
Section 205.138,4�A: AL1 raw materials� suppZies9 finished or semi-finished
products and equipment� not including motor vehicles� shall be sCored within
an enclosed building or to be screened on al1 sides from public view by a
fence or other approved screen which extends two feet above the highest item
to be stored with a maximum fence height of eight feet.
Public puxpose served is to screen unsightly supplies from public view as
much as possible� without creating inordinately high visual obstruction,
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"Request variance to screening fence height from 8 feet maximum to 10.5 feet
to alYow continued use of fence for auto pares supply yard at 7300
Central Avenue NE. Removal would cause expense and loss of material
installed to sc=een machinery higher than pxevious fence."
C. ADMZNISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT:
A field check shows that the height of the original fence is six feet�six inches.
The added portion if four feet high. 11ie over-all height of 10.5 feet exceeds
code requirements by 2.5 feet. The owner installed the fence section in
order to better screen the car processing area from the public. The files
show that the petitioner has complied with recent environmental requests
such as striping the parking lot� raoving junk vehicles into the scxeened
area� weed cutting� landscaping and a sign permit.
Mr. Halden explained that Mr. Lorentzen's situation was discovered while .
Mr. Steve Olson was checking the area tegarding envisonmental situations, He
said that no citation had been given to Mr. Lorentzen. Mr. Holden said that the
petitioner was informed that he was in violation of the codes and that he would
have to request a variance if he wanted to continue to use the existing fencing.
Mr. Lotentzen said that he had not been aware of the fact that he was in
violation of a code. He said that he was told to better screen his business.
He said that he added the additional fencing so that everything within his business
was screened completely as possible from the public. Ae said that he had many
comments from different people that the additional fencing was very appealing.
Mr. Lorentzen said that he had done the fencing work last fa11. He explained
that he kept the existing redwood fencing and added a section of fiberglass on top
of the redwood.
Chairperson Schnabel pointed out to the Commission that they were acting on
a situation that already did exist.
APPEALS COMMIS3ION MEETING - JUNE f3, 1978 PaQe 6
Mr. Lorentzen said that even though at times the cars are stacked quite high
in the screened yard� they don't remain on the lot very long. Ae said that he has
a machine that smashes cars flat. He said that he processes 45-50 cars per day
with that machine. He said that after xhe cars are flattened, they are loaded on
a semi truck and hauled to North Star Steel in St. Paul Park.
Mr. Holden said Lhat Mr. Lorentzen had done many things that had been
previously requested with the Zot in question. He said that the business establishment
definitely did look better than it had in previous times. He commended
Mr. Lorentzen on his efforts.
Ms. Gabel felt that there wete still situations at the location that needed
improvements.
Mr. Plemel indicated that the type o£ operation that Mr. Lorentzen ran was
bound to be somewhat messy.
Mr. Holden said that it was understandable that some of the clutter at times
on the property was unavoidable.
Chairperson Schnabel said that she had concerns regarding the number of cars
parked on the streets in the area.
Mr. Lorentzen said that none of the cars would be from his business. He
stores all the cars from his es[ablishment within the fenced area, He said that
the customers did park on the street. He said that his employees did not park
near the establishment.
Mr. Lorentzen said that the reason for the high fence was not to antagonize
the public but to screen the nature of the business from t.t:e public's view.
Chairperson Schnabel said that the 10.5 foot fence did not obstruct traffic from the
motorist�s view from any point. She did not feel it was a traffic safety hazard.
She felt that what Mr. Lorentzen did was in the best interest of the public.
MOTION by Mr. P1emeL� seconded by Mr, Kemper� to close the Pub2ic Hearing.
Upon a voice vote� aIl voting aye� the motion carried unanimously. �e Public
Hearing was closed at 8:20 P.M.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper� seconded by Mr. $arna� that the Appeals Comnission
recommend approval of the request for variance of the Fridley City Code,
Section 205.138�4�A� to increase the maximum screening fence height from eight
feet to 10.5 feet� to allow continued use of screening fence on Lot 18, Block 1,
Central View Mattor� the same being 7300 Centrai Avenue NE� FYidley� Minnesota.
Upon a voice vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING - Jt7NE 13 1978 PaQe 7
3. 01HER BUSINESS
a) June 27� 1978� Appeals Commission Meeting
�Mx. Aolden informed the Gocmnission members that there would 6e no
Appeals Commission meeting on June 27� 1978.
b) JuLy 18� 1978 Appeals Commission Meeting
MOTION by Ms. Gabel� seconded by Mr. Barna' to change the Appeals
�ommission meetin� from July 18� 1978� to July 25� 1978, Upon a
voice vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Barna� seconded by Mr. Kemper� to adjourn the June 13� 1978�
Appeals Cosmnission meeting. Upon a voice vote� all voting aye� the meeting
was adjourned at 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted�
%y%Lf/Gt '
MaryLee Carhill
Recording Secretary
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Th� purnos� of this !"enorandum of l�,oreanent is to descriU� �hose
ar2as of enf�rc�e:�nt activity covered bv Chanter 363 of the !'innesota State
Statu�e s•rh�re a collahorative effort hett�e�n tne Fridl�y !tu�an i?esources
Co�nittee/Landlord-Tenant nro�ran and the State Denartment o` Hur^an 1?in1�t5
can be effectuateJ.
1. Takin� a C�arne nf �iscrininatio7 - On Site
tl'nen an allec�d discrir�inatr�r�i act in the area o` Real Pro�erty accurs
ti�iitt;in th� ju�i.sdicti�n of ,the Fridiey fEu„an Resnurces Co��^itte�/L?ndlord-
w..- :,:,_..� ,.
Tenant nrngran c1;1G1'���1°_ Cht:rninfi r:.'.Yi.Y f'cl{:�5 1t11t73� C^'7�dCt �,llt,i �(:^5jn-
nated rember(s) of tne Pridley Nu��an ?esourc^s Gnn.�i�tae/La=idlord-Tenan�
nroara�^, t�� Landlord-Tenant pro�ra^ n�r�ber(s) .r.ay att,^�1r.� �,, ,r,,
r s u ion of t:i? qri�vance, eri�r to fili;in a fnrral c:iarne �•�it�� �ile
C�n�rtr•.e�it of 7u�an °inh�s. If t;ie att?nnt at voluntary r�snlu*.inn `ails,
t�10 Land:or�!-T?I?ctlt prnara�^ nnn!inP�S� Si90�� T'CrP1' at1C C'131'n2 tp �%;.^.
� 1linneso�a 7enartr.:ent� or' Iluraan �1�'1i.5 dS u._SCl"15°C? lt1 i�l£ fCllo:�/l�,�n S:CL10�5.
! Tiie �OC@� comnittD°_ f?d% COCI!?�°�E��`,`IB �Q��P`i.!i�71t Di �U:^.�i'.1 ?in!tts' llii.?.�:C
Of �jl� c�larne .i!l� fnr.•�ard i.�}� Cildl'�� t0 t:12 �enar�t3°tl�: Of ��1�!'.�il �lOht`.5
�or docketi�o and �roc�ssi�a. � �
1!. In'al:� �of r,':�arn� �n-Si ta
�1� Iil+cl�° Intervi�r! - The Fnrpose Of �„ilC 1'l�l�:E' l;l�?1"Vl�;.!
15 �i.0 �OCUl7°il� �5 flllL� .r.er:l:l��� 111r01'Y'3t1nI? ,S�nn55ib12
renardi,�o an all^_a�ti�n of discrini:iatio7. T,�e c�aroi�ic
oarty shoul6 be as!:ed to �ri�fl;� state r�^.at �;:ey bcli���e
t0 h° d75CYlf.?lll'i3Ot�y �l'°di,!:1.^.:7t. Ti�e S�BtC'^L'!li`. S:lOU�C�. �f)°_
recorded c:� th? D;;? Forn Affidavit =?.
The ciiarninn ?art�� should revi�+•� the s`a±enent far accuracy
and sign it. Thr si�ned !!`fidavi* =1 s!.r,ul�i st�te the basis,
the area of uiscrir�ine�inn, i�;i�n it occurred, an � by ti.i^n.
il Ctl°C�: Si1011�(i fTC md�° t0 ZSSU1'� i:}l.lt t'.S^ C;1�1^nc^ 15 �im�ly,
1.0.� OCCUI"1'Cii :•!1:�1111 StX �^� fl017�'15 Qf �`,�1? `l�ltl❑ d1t�3.
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2d;e.d �7 ��.^. allened G15CY'llll'1�!:1C'1.
the desi�na�.��i loc,�l c�r�a�itte^ ��.cn!;^r
SilOU�l� T�PCD'lY2 Jf�� ��fil�!%Vlt `� �:�;j a5r11}q
t�1C ci�aro.inn jldt't,% ;^�C1f1C 155U�: 1'^�?�:"�
OU^S�1O;15. .
Ans�ier, to *he ouestinns ar� r^c�rd��' nn
th.^. af`idavi* anr are reviA!•!ed �•�iih t��
charainn p�r�Y �^ assurn er,nn]e�eness and
accuracy, arhich should inclu��e: (1) .a d_-
tail�d si,atener.*. of the far_ts; (2) na�--5
of potential �!it�a2S5�S' (3) dat^s� (�)
seou�ncr_ of ev^nts' (�) n°r�on(s) invn)v?d
in �discrimin� tor�� act(s). Ch?rnin? ,r.�:rty
is ir,struct�d ;.o read �nd verify r^car�.ed
infor:�a�ion and to si�:i the a`fi�a�ii�.
Other nuestions recoonized as ��rtinent tn
th� inv�stiqa�ion �;1�ic� th? ch?r�inn �arty
is unable to ans;•rer durinq the inLat:e inter-
Viei•� s�oul? h? �iven to t`ie char�inn. r.zrty
at the en�l of the int�l^�l1��•�. Th,� c;�aroin�
party is as'red to securn the ans�•+ers te th^
questions, r!hen possibl2, and rr.turn tne� to
the local ce^mission. The local cor,^it*_ee
t•iill fon•!ard th^ cnn�l�ted infornation tn
�he Deear�ment nf Hur�:.�n f:ieh�s `nr �1ac�men*_
in tile C�Se flle.
(2) '?ul*_inle c'iarninq narties - in ins�znces
sever�l individuals 1��ish to r?a4:? the san�
comPlaint anainst t!�e sa7e reseondent, have
each file a senara�e �u: Forc! "1 and affidavit,
even thounn th� lanquap2 is ir.:en�ical. This
is don� so tiiat the charre forns of t�e re-
Maininc, parties t=!ill re!^ain in �ffect if one
party at snne later dat4 ��it+idra�•rs their char�e.
(3) Dat° st���nino - Charnes are tn b� dat�-stanned
upon rec�int to estahlisii the o`ficial record
of receint. ^ate-stanp the envelo�e anJ bac.
of each nage, h:inq careful nnt to blot out
infomation. Sta�le t��e enveln�e to :;•^_ docu^�^nt
in order to �reserve a r�cord ef t�ie date mailed.
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(4) Pror.iptness in handlin9 - verified char9es should
be or:rarded to the Uepartnent of fiuman ?i�hts
proriptl,y after the intake intervie��� has been
completed. The D�partnent of �fuman P,ights is
required by statute to notify the respondent and
other governmental a9encies (if applicable} by
�certified mail that a charge has been filed vrithin
five (5) days of receipt of the c�arge.
(5) Fon•aardin of a charQe to the Denartnent of Human
P,�q ts - t e verified charge and supportrng affi-
a�vits should be promptly for.•!arded to the D°part-
ment of fluman Rights for doc4eting and processing.
Intake of Charqe - !lrite in
1•lhen a chargin9 party submits a t•rritten inquiry to the local
corunittee concerning 4•ihat is believed to be discriminatory
treatment, and the incident complained of is in the juris-
diction of the Fridley Human P.esources Committee/Landlord-
7enant program, the designated cocmittee memher(s) may re-
view the �rritten inquiry to deterr�ine if th? incident con-
plained of appears to fall e�ithin the jurisdiction of Chap-
ter 363.
If the practice complained of in the corres�ondence to the
local cornnittee appears.to be t��ithin the jurisdiction o`
Chapter 363, the designated cor!mittee ner�ber(s} should select
the appro�riate Cepartment af S{uman Rights form letter and
issue-related affidavits that need to be co^pleted by the
charging party before a fonnal charge can be �•iritten. This
information along vaith a�Jepartment of 4unan ::iahts charge
forn should be nailed to the charging party �;:ith instructions
to promptly return the requested information to the designated
committee member(s). The charge form must be signed and
notarized, and affidavits must be signed.
The local cor�ittee shouid retain the letter of inquiry in
a temporary susp°nse file along 4•lith a record of the affi-
davits sent to the charging party until the requested informa-
tion is returned.
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Unon. receict Of th� sinn^d Derartr.�ent nf Ilur:an
�in,hts ciiarqe `or^� ancl issue-r^l��ted �iffi:!avits
fro�+ th� charnina oart;� t;�� desi�nated co�^^��titi��
member(s) snoul;; r�nnvP the letter nf innuiry `rn�^
the t�ClDOP��Yy vas�ense filr. and for.iar•d th� tot�l
nzckane, Denart�ent nf i',uman I?iahts char��e :`or�^,
afifidavits, an�.l letter of inquiry, :o the L'c�art�ent
of Human Ri�hts for docketing and nrocessin^.
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I1. 30-Day liaiver Anr°°�?nt
A. The 3G-day �aai��er aaree�^z�it is a proc�ss d�Vp�OPPr� b�� tn�
��^ Denartm°nt of Hunan �ig;�s i!i r°sr,ons� ±o r�o�iasts :3.y=z.er:?
F� . ��.Q+,,/er5�'11���rL]-Y'C:iti �•°. _if,�l-D�1.-t�ific�is�for r) ^Y'�C����Y°
,�` t•rhic�. tiould enabl°_ �w��Q_'f•O-r5 to �-e�1�1� resolve char�es nf
(�` discrir..ination. Th� .�i�-�dJ l'l31V°P anre�nent 15 in�-r�e' i.0 !?PO^0�?
such attemn:s if the_charpinq party and a r2snnnd�nt h?liev2 t:�at
the,y might be successful.
A charainq oarty is niven +.he or!portunity to nartici�ate in �,ie
30-day ��raiver o�ly at the tire a ciiarge is fil?d. If t�c c�arninn,
par�y signs the waiv2r aar�erent tha r�s^nnd2n� is invit��! to si�n
at the tine tile notice of cnarre is serve:-�.
The respondent itas ten (10) days after receint nf tiie �:!aiv�r to
1"C�UI'll t{7� 5'I�F1C'(� a�re�r'ent. 4�a;t�t1 �!lC' 2�1"C2i��°!1� 15 re�ur�eC� �0 ��7� .
Q�nartment of Hu'!dn Ri(!i1t5> i.�l° CO^^1551011£t'�S 57��<ltUP2 15 'i.�4Ch_d
as a third nart� to the �m�°er°nt. Thn ter�s of ��� a�?r°e^°_nt are:
(�} Th° D°nar�nent t�rill not 6enin an investi�ation
in the Matter for t:�irty (3^) da,�s.
(2) During this 30-Gay neriod, tti� charnin� narty
and r?s^onde�t may mal:e a,�y efforts that ti�ey
desire in order to r�ach a Rrop�sed se�tle�^ent
of the charre of discrir�ination.
(3} Any settlement or agr�°nent cnncerninc or related
to �h� subj2ct matter in the charge is not 5ir,ding
upon the char9in� part,y or tiie resrondent unless
it is also sign°d 5y the Commissioner or Huc:an ri�!�ts•
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�- �nr� Th� <��iree�-ent F1lY JC C���C^1�!.':i itt dTlf
tin? by an,y party by se��tinn �!ri tten
notice to all rther ��rties.
{5) Enterinn t'se 3�-da�r ��i�iv�r tl�Si°'^ellt
do�s not constitute an ad:?ission by the
resnnndent nf a violation o` the '^innesota
}lur�an °i�hts F.ct.
If the resnondent dozs not fe21 tliat the �•raiv�r anrae-
ment is an an�ropriate aiay to resolve the �att�r, th?
char�e of discrinina�ion is referre� to th� Enfnrcerent
Division of �iie �enart�ent for inv�stinztion.
ITI. Securit�� and Confid�ntialit�� of �a,cnr:!s
It is understood that all inror^!ation, docu^�2n*.s, and records of
testinnny collected durin� an inv�stination under this anr�er�e^t
are the nrnnerty of the Departrent of.Nur^an Piqh`s and are nrivatn
as snecified under the data nrivacy act.
IV. Jurisdictinn of Cliarqe
Unc�er ttiis a�reeinent a charqe r^ay not b� join�ly filed vriti� the
local cor�mission and the Departm2nt of Hunan Rinnts. 7he local
cemr�ission r2r�bers shall exnlai7 to a charnin� narty his/her �ntion
to file ���ith the local cormission or e�ith the �?oaru:�nt o` Nu�a�
Ri�hts.
Although tne 'rlinnesota Statutes, Cha?ter 3F3.116, states that a
local cormission r..a,y refer a rattpr uhder its jurisdic�ion to t�;e
Commissioner it also s:ates clearly tliat the actual filinn of a charae
trith a local connission nrecludes the ontion of filina the same
charae �Jitn another co^nission.
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V. Sunnti�d Pm�ri:fed to Loca7 4uman '?i�ht5 r9?"�l15510115
Thc Statc Denartrent of ;Iur^ar Ria'its a�il] nrovi�^ the
Fridley hur^an Resnurces Con^�i�tee/L�l�dlord-T�nant ^rnnra^�
wi�ii denart�en� sun�lies TiE'�4'P� t0 wrry out tnis colla�orative
agreement.
A. Sup�lies provided by State Denartment of ilur..an P.ights:
(1} Depart:�ent o° Hunan !?igh*s �h�ree forr�s
(2) Genartment nf Hunan Rights Affidavits srl and ,'-`?_
(3) Annronriate De��rtment of 1;ur��n Riahts Fnrn
Letter(s)
(4) 30-day :�!aiv�r "nre�r:ents
(5) Standard forn ?re-conciliation ?!gree��ents
VI. Terr�ination of Fareenent
This agreenent �ay bz terminated by eith�r the cn�+*�ittee ef the
Denartnent of Human Riqhts on ihirty (��) days notice.
This 14emorandum supersedes all others prior to this date.
Approved by Fridley Human
Rights Commission
Approved by the Minnesota
Departnent of Numan rights
Da ted
City Council City of Frid ey
Mayor. City of Fridley
Fridley tiuman Resources Commission
Dated
Fli l�am L. 4:i son, Commissioner, Departnent
' of Numan Rights
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RECYCLING PROJECT COh4�fITTEE REPORT
The Recycling Project Committee of the Environ�ntal Quality Commission
proposes that a Collection Center for Recyclabkes be established in the City of
Fridley. The Comnittee asks that it be located on City property east of the
Columbia Area if it is compati6le with City plans for that area.
The Committee offers the following reasons for establishing such a
center:
to
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show fellow citizens how much material we throw away
provide a channel whereby throwaways can be re-used
save our natural resources (especially metals and wood)
save energy (aluminum can be recycled using less than 5% of the
energy needed to process aluminum from ore)
reduce the amount dumped into landfills
reduce the amount of non-degradabie materials dumped into landfills
(tin cans take about 100 years to break dawn; aluminum
cans take about 400 years to disintegrate; glass does
not deteriorate.)
to reduce the cost of solid waste disposal
to make.money from recycling useable materials
The Committee plans to collect the following:
newspapers
corrugated paper
aluminum
metal cans
glass containers
leaves (compost)
We suggest that at the outset the Center be open from 10 to 2 P.M, on
Saturdays. We plan to invite organizations to staff the Center at these times
so that collectibles will be correctly sorted and stacked. We feel two persons
would be adequate for this task. The organization manning the center will receive
the pay for the materials collected that day. The Recycling Project Committee
would be initially responsible for administering the Collection Center.
We have taked with Dick's Recycling of Brooklyn Park regarding callection
and pick-up of materials. Dick will provide a roll-off box and barrels for the
papers and cans and bottles. He will pick up.,and weigh the materials and pay the
organizatian which has sorted them the previous Saturday.�*
Our organization procedure is based on the Edina Recycling Cent¢r which has
been open for over seven years and is now earning $200 to $300 a month, over their
expenses. It was begun by volunteers because of their concern for dumping useable
materials into landfills. These 4 or 5 volunteers scheduled organizations to take
their turns manning the center. The organizations wauld in turn, get the profits
for that day. Since the profit is based on the amount of materials coTlected, the
organizations would gather all they could and encourage their friends to bring
their recyclables. The procedure proved successful because Edina's Recycling
Center is now manned from 2 to 5 P.P4. every day and 10 to 3 P.M. every Saturday by
2 to 6 employees. The center earns enough to pay their wages and $20Q to $300 per
month in addition.
The area of Edina's Recycling Center is about 60 by 15 feet. It is not
fenced. It includes two "roll-off" boxes for newspapers and magazines, one truck
for corrugated paper and 20 cubic-yard bins for bottles and cans. It is not messy
even though it is not enclosed by a fence and even though people leave their bags
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of recyclables for the attendants to sort.
We are requesting a fenced-in area. We believe that a contained area
can be kept neater than an open area. However, since the Collection Center will
be open onlq from 10 to 2 P.M. on Saturdays we are askfng that a box measuring
3 to 4 cubic feet be placed outside the fence so that people can bring their re-
cTyclables to the area at their convenience. The materials can be sorted by the
attendants on Saturday when they come.
Expenses for the Collection Center are minimal, However, some signs are
necessary. The following are requested:
Newspapers Corrugated -
Magazines � Bottles Aluminum
4NLY Paper .
Amber Clear. Greert Metal Rings Cans Must be
Glass Glass Glass Off Bottles. ' Flattened
and a few signs to indicate the location of the center: ,
E- -�
Collection Collection
Center Center
In order to inform citizens of the opening and location of the Center, we wil�l
need a6out 2,000 flyers to be handed out at local stores and possibly elementary
schools. The cost for these would be $23.30 or $14,35 if half-size.
*Dick wilt guarantee $10 a ton for paper.. When the price is fiigher, fie will
split the difference with us. That.is, when the paper company pays $20, he
will pay us $10 +$5, or $15 a ton ; or if the company pays $30 a ton, he will
pay us $20 a ton.
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Connie Metcalf, Chairperson
Elaine Jensen
Vir9inia Steinmetz _ �
Fran Swanson
Jane Hayano
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CITY OF fRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING — JUNE 21, 1978
CALI TO ORDER:
Chairperson Harris called the June Z1, 1978, Planning Commission
meeting to order at 7:36 p.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Storla, Oquist, Harris, Peterson,
Schnabel, Langenfeld
None
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVE PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MINUTES: June 7, 1978
MOTION by Mr• Oquist, seconded by Mr• Langenfeld, to approve
the June 7, 1978, Planning Commission meeting minutes•
Mr• Langenfeld indicated that, as was stated on Page 13 of the
minutes, the discussion on the Recycling Project Report had been
continued and not tabled•
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously•
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HEARING:
�vyr o�nin• n 1\LrLMI vr �vi� a�o�r�o�� qryU LU� tlLVCR C�
HILLCREAST ADDITION, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 71�❑ BLOCK ON
THE EAST SI4E OF EAST RIVER ROAD•
MATION by Mr• Storla, seconded by Ms• Schnabel, to open the Public
Hearing• Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously• The public Hearing was opened at 7:38 P.M•
Mr• Boardman explained what the petitioners were requesting• He
indicated that Hillcrest Drive and Meyers Avenue have not been
approved as developed streets• He said that they were presently
only right-of-ways• He said that certain stipulations would have
to be placed on the approval of the preliminary Plat P.S• 78-OS•
He said that the drainage for the area would have to be considered
and a drainage plan submitted; soil borings would have to be taken;
easements would be retained betmeen the properties; and there would
have to be some type of access provided to Lots 11, 12, & 13 which
were City owned lots•
Mr• Todd�Blair and Mr• Tim Munn were present at the meeting.
Mr• Blair indicated that they were not interested in developing
all of Hillcrest Drive and Meyers Avenue• He said they only needed
enough of Hillcrest developed so that the cul-de-sac would have
access to Hickory Drive, thereby giving access to East River Road•
PLANNING COMMIS3ION MEETING — JUNE 21, 1978 Page 2
M�• Boardman indicated that the Lots 11, 12, 8 13 had been initially
intended for drainage purposes- He explained that there had been
a petition submitted by the neighborhood to put a park on those lots•
He said that the Parks & Recreation Commission had motioned that
those lots be left as t,hey were intended or sold and the money used
to improve the neighborhood access to other parks in the area• He
said =:that it was sent to the City Council by the Planning Commissivn
with the Planning Commission's concurrence on the motion•
Chairperson Harris asked what the petitioners planned for
outlot ^A^• He mainly wanted to know exactly who would maintain
that outlot• He didn't want to see the lot become a^dumping^
grounds•
Mr� Munn:said that the person living the closest to the outlot
would be the only person that would be able to use the land,
therefore it would be up to that person to also maintain the outlot•
He said that they would explain the situation to the people that
would live in the corner house•
Chairperson Harris asked who was maintaining the Hillcrest Drive
right—of—way•
Mr• Boardman said that the people living adjacent to the right—of—
way were maintaining the property•
Chairperson Harris asked what the petitioners planned to do with
Lo� 10•
Mr• Munn said that the City would most likely purchase that land
if they so decided to put a park in that location•
Mr• Boardman indicated that the City Council had not committed
anything towards park property in that area•
Mr• Oquist asked if the plat would be contingent on the completion
of Hillcrest Drive�
Mr• Boardman said that it was contingent on the completion
of Hillcrest Drive from Blair Drive to Hickory Drive only•
He said that would be the nine—house development's access onto
East River Road•
Chairperson Harris said that Lot 10 did not meet the platt3ng a�d'xnance
requirements•
Mr• Munn indicated that Lot 10 was already an existing lot•
Mr• Boardman said that that the Ordinance did allaw a 50 foot
lot if it was platted before 1955• He said the only conditions
were that the size of the lot could not be increased because it
was already an existing lot• He said that the lot would be �
50 foot lot whether it would be part of this plat or not•
PLANNI�G C�T�MISSION MEETING - JIINE 21, 1978 Pa�e 3
Mr. Peterson said that there xould be no access to any park that
wonld go isto that area with the development of the proposed plat.
�r. Board�ari said that a 20 foot walkxay easement would be takett
over by the City between Lots �& 5 of the proposed plat.
Mr. Peterson didn't feel that a 20 foot walkway would be adequate.
He felt there wonld be many problems erith people trespassing on
the resident's propertg.
Mr. Peterson indicated that a park at that locatioxi did not fit
into the total park plan for the City of Fridley.
Chairperson Harris was eoncermed about the maintenance of Lot 10.
He �anted to kuow how the lot was and Wonld be maintained.
Mr. Muan said that the County assessed the property and the County
did all the maintenanee.
Mr. Peterson said that there had already been complaints regarding
the maintenance of the lots in that area.
Mr. Boardman indicated that Lots 11, 12 & 13 were preseatly Gity
owned aad were used as drainage lots. He said that it was
reeommended not to haee any City owned property behind the plat
at all and improve on the already esisting drainage ditches
provided by Burlington Atortherm. He felt that a drainag�e ditch
aloag the railroad tracks should take care of the e$isting problems
of water �'standing" om those lots. He said it �as not recommended
at that point to develop any park land on those lots.
Chairperson Harris explained that the plating and the requested
Park r�ere a�tually tied together. He said that onee the plat is
approved as proposed� then there �ould be evea more pressnre from
the Beighborhood to deP:�lop a park in that location.
Mr. Peterson said that Parks and xecreation Gommission said that they
did net and aronld raot recom�end a park for that location.
Ghairperson Harris asked what would happen to the City owned lots
if the plat being proposed Was appr�sved.
Mr. Boardman said that the lots would be maintained as drainage areas.
Chairperson Harris felt that the decision should be made by the City
Gouneil as to ezactly what they �anted to do with Hillerest Drive and
Aieger Avenues. He said that if the possibility of a park on the City
oxaed lots mas eommpletely abaadoaed� then perhaps all the area eould
be inelt�ded on the plat. �ther�ise, he said that Lots 11, 12 & 13
could be left as is� but termed "open spaces�'.
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PLAN�ING GOMMISSION MEETING - dUNE 21 1978 Pa�e 4
Chairperson Harris asked the petitioners if the City decided to abandon
the idea of park land on Lots 11� 12 & 13� if the� �onld be interested
im includiag those lots on the plat.
Mr. Maan said that the neighbors had alread� indieated their interest
in those lots. He said that the aei�hbors �anted that land to insnre
prevention of anq further development itt their neighborhood.
Chairperson Aarris said that whoever pnrc�ased those lots would have
the responsibility of properlq maintaining the property.
Chairperson Harris explained to the petitioners that he felt that
the plat was a good proposal. He said that the Commission members
�ere having di£ficulty dealing with the developmeat of Lot 10.
Mr. Peterson said that by includ3ng the South half of Lot 10 in the
proposed plat� it Would make it very difficult to do anything with
Lots 11, 12 & 13 at a later date.
Chairperson Harris explained that to not iaclude Lot 10, the
petitioners �ould lose two lots from their proposed plat,
Ghairperson Harrie said that without a decision from City Gouncil
it Was hard for the Planning Commission to decide ffi�ch. He felt
that something had to be decided resarding that area in the ver�
near fat�re.
�r. Terry Mickley of 7�75 Hickory Drive �r. Les Blinco of
7067 Hickory Drive� and Bud Serry of 69�5 �ickory Drive were preseut
at the �eeting regarding this item.
Mr. Mickley commented that there was preseatly problems with fires
on the City owned land in that area. He said that the fire trucks
co�ld get to the back land by using the Meyers Avenue right oi way.
Mr. Mickley wanted to knom if the petitioners would be able to put
a house on some of the proposed lots and still adhere to the setback
requirements.
Hr. Miekley said that Lots 6 thru 9�ere located on very low land.
He said that if the petitioners raised the natural £low of the water
on that land� the water �ould flow onto the back yards of the
existing houses. He felt that the �aier had to flow some place
and he said that presentl� there seemed to be a natural flow of the
�ater to go to the Gitq owned lots. He said that many times the
water wor�ld r�standn on those lots. Mr. Mickleq wanted assurance
that the petitioners would have to abide by all the City requirements.
PLANNING CO�SMISSION MEETING - JUNE 21 1978 Pa�e 5
Mr. Mickleg� indicat�d that his house and seneral of his existing
neighbor's houses had basements eonstructed oa higher ground than
some of the lots in the proposed plats. He wanted to know how the
petitioner �ould work around the egisting water table problems
and still meet all the requirements of the Citq.
Mr. Boardman said that before the petitioner could obtain a Bu3lding
Permit for the proposed denelopment� a drainage plan had to be
submitted and approved by the City and the Rice Creek Water Shed
District. He esplained that the drainage plaxx� would have to solne
any exieting problems that property had as well as assure that no
new problems would be created. He said that all the lots wauld
have to have soil borings and water table studies because of the
already existing water problems in that area.
Mr. Blinco had pictures of the lots taken rahea there was water
standing on them•
Mr. Boardman e�laitted to the neighbors that someone owned the
propertq being discussed. He said that if that peson could build
on that land and solve all the drainage problems, then they should
be allowed to develop the land.
Mr. Blinco said that they didn't object to the project. He said that
their concern was that the proposed development didnTt change the
natural water run-off flow. He said that the neighbors did not want
to have the flow changed so that the run-off would end up in their
back yards. He wanted some assurance that the problem won't develop.
Mr. Boardman said that the City had Engineers that would make sure
that the development would not canse any drainage problems at all.
He said that they would insure that the petitioners wo�ld solne
any egisting problems also. He said that the City was aware of the
�ater problems in that area.
Mr. Mickley asked that mgch consideration be given regarding the
water problems in that area before approving any t�pe of plat.
t�r. Mickley also pointed out that there no longer existed any
drainage ditch along the railroad iracks. He said that the railroad
tzsed the ditch to bury their railroad ties.
Chairpersoa Harris suggested that someone from Staff talk to
Burlington 1Vorthern.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING — JUNE 21� 1978 Page 6
Mr• Blinco wanted to know if the City was ever planning to take
care of the weeds on their lots• He indicated that the neiqhbors
still wanted to have a park located on those lots•
Mr• Boardman said that the lots should be property maintained by
the City and that he would check into the matter•
MOTION by Ms• Schnabel, seconded by Mr• Langenfeld, to close the
Public Hearing• Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously• The Public Hearing was closed at 8:39 P.M•
Mr• Langenfeld commented that the particular situation had
definitely caused much concern for many people• He said that
he was all for any development that would better the City of
Fridley; however he could not see any future development on
the property in question• He said that a person did not have to
be an Engineer to see the ^mess^ in that area• He felt that
6efore he could approve any form of construction, the -
drainage situation wo�l�_.haae to be solved•
Mr• Langenfeld wanted to know when the item would be handled by
the City Council•
Mr• Boardman said that it would be before the City Council on
July 17, 1978•
Mr• Peterson felt that the proposed preliminary Plat PS 78—OS
shoutd not be approved at that time because of the drainage problems;
outlot 10 in conjunction with the City owned property wauld be
landlocked; and because if a park was located in that area if and
when the �ity Council decided to go against the recommendation of
the Parks and Recreation Commisssion and the concurrence of the
Planning Commission, the access would be inadequate•
Mr• Langenfeld definitely felt that by confronting the situation
now, would prevent many problems in the future•
Mr• Peterson explained that he felt the plat was good• He said
that the Commission had problems approving the plat because
there were other properties that could be effected by the plat•
Mr• Blair said that Mr• Sobiech was working on the drainage
problems• He said that they would have all the necessary
information and solutions by July 13, 1978• He said that the
City of Fridley Would not issue the Building Permits if they
thought that the water run—off aould go into the rear yards
of the adjacent neighbors• .
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING — JUNE 21, 1978 Page 7
Ms• Schnabel pointed out that if the property was not replatted,
houses would probably be constructed on the �ots of the:existing
plat• She said that the existing lots were buildable lots and
building permits would most likely be granted• She felt that the
replat offered the City and the neighbors more control to assure
that the drainage problems were not made:worse and hopefully
would improve the situation•
Ms� Schnabel said that she sensed the fact that the neighbors
were not so much against the development of the property as they
were concerned about the present drainage problems and the chance
of additional drainage problems in the future•
Mr• Mickley said that the proposed development seemed to be
a good plan for the area• He said that the concern was being
expressed regarding the drainage and how it would exactly be
handled•
Chairperson Harris said that it was obvious that someone would
have to take some action and develop a drainage system in that
area• He felt that the water should be channeled onto the City
owned lots and then into the Burlington Nart•h�n's drainage _
ditches• ,He said that Burlington Northern would be contacted
regarding such plans•
Ms• Schnabel suggested that the Commissian continue the item
until the developers were able to have all their information
together•
Mr• Peterson said that he wanted to be sure that the item was
not just sent onto City Council without forcing an issue on a
rather difficult problem•
Chairperson Harris explained to the Qetitioners that without the
Commission being able to review the drainage plan and without being
able to arrive at solutions to problems/concerns that had been
expressed at the meeting, it was very difficult for the members of
the Commission to approve the preliminary plat• He said that if
the item wasn't continued, then the petitioners wauld have to go
to the City Council with a plat without the recommendation of the
Planning Commission and possibly with a negative decision•
Mr• Boardman pointed out that if the item was continued, it would
go to Council in August•
Mr• Munn indicated that there would be a possibility that they
would lose their contractors if the item was delayed any longer•
He informed the Commission that they have tried to develop that
piece of praperty since November•
PLANNI�G COMFIISSIO� MEETING - JUNE 21. 1978 Pa�e 8
M�TION by Mr. Petersom� seconded by Hr. Langenfeld� that the Planning
Commission continue the consideration of a proposed preliminary Plat�
P.S. #78-fl5, �IINDT'S Hillcrest Additioa: by Timothy Munn and Todd Blair:
A replat of Lots 5, 6, ?> 8, 9, and lp, Block 2� Hillcrest Addition�
generally located in the 7100 block on the East Side of East River Aoad
until the July 12, 19�8, Planning Commission meeting with a preset
public hearing date �ith the City Council of duly 17� 1978. Upon a
voice eote, all voting a�e� the motion carried naanimously.
Chairperson Harris ezplained that at the Jnly 12, 19�8� meeting� the
Plarining Cvmmission �ould req�ire the drainage plan. He said tbat theq
would also require froffi Staff ho� the Cit� property tied into the proposed
plat. He said they �ould also have to have the resglts of the soil borings
and the petitiotters should indicate the easement lines on the plat as
well as where access to the City owned property would be provided. He
said that Staff shonld also ezamine the situation of the drainage ditch
With Bnrli�gton Northern.
Chairperson Harris suggested that the petitioner work closely with
City Staff to be sure that all the details of the plat are carefully
worked out.
MOTION by Mr. Peterson� seconded by Mr, bangenfeld� req�esting that
the Chairman of the Planning Commission appear before the City Council
exglaining the motion of the Parks and Recreation Commission along
with the concnrrence of the Planning Commission regarding the property
ia question, IIpoa a voice vote' all voting aye� the motion carried
ananimously.
Ghairpersom Harris said that he would di.scass the item with the Gity
Coumcil on July 10� 1g'%8.
2. CONTINIIED ENEBGY C�M�3ISSIO�t DISCIISSION
Chairperson Harris said that he had attended the Gity Couneil meetiug
as per the motion made by the Planning Commission. He said he made
the request for City Administratiee help oa an "as need�� basis
and for secretarial help oa a regnlar basis for the Energy Project
Co�ittee. Hr, Harris indicated that the Gity Council denied the request.
Chairperson Harris said that the Citg Gouacil had indicated they would
reconsider the request after the Commission had put together the scope
of the committee.
Chairperson Harris said that he was told tlaat the denial was made d�e
to a policy sitttation. He said that it was a 3-2 vote to deny because
ii was a polic;/ that ttone of the projeet conmittees wo�zld receive Staff
or secretarial help.
PLANPII&G GOMMISSION MEETING — JUNE 21. 1978 Pa�e 9
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Ms. Sehnabel� to receiae the
disc�ssion material that City Staff had provided for the Eaergy
Cmmmittee discussion. IIpon a voice vote� all voting aye, the motion
carried unani�onslq.
�r. Boardma� said that he had talked to Ms. Harper fram the Energ�
Agency and that she was scheduled to appear before the Planning
Commission on July 12� 1978� He said that she would be able to
assist the Commission in setting up the goals and objectives for the
Energy Comffiittee.
Ms. Schnabel said that whether or not the C3ty Council at that time
chose to grant the request for Staff and secretarial help did not
meaxi that the egergy problems didn�t still exist. She felt that the
Planning �ommission should eontinue �ith the original concept
and in the process try to convince the City Couracil to support the
Energy Committee�
Mr. Lang�nfeld stated that the Planning Commission was asked to act
i� regards to an Energy Committee and they had taken action accordin�ly.
lie �ranted to know why they couldntt no�v get support from the City
Council.
l�r. Peterson said that the Planning Commission should decide horo� the
Committee mor.il.d be orgaaized and then establts� a liason.
Chairperson Harris said that the City Council wanted the scope of the
Energy Com�ittee; what the g�ale and objectives Would be. He said they
wanted to knovr how the Comffiittee would be made up.
Ms. Sehnabel said that if the Planning Commission was truly a F�planning��
commission then csne of the plans they should comceive for the Citq
wou].d be some tqpe of an Energy Project Committee. She said that the
Planning Commission should being the concept to the City Council and if
the Council chose not to agree with the concept then the concept would
have to be brought back to the voters of the City for them to decide.
I�r. Peterson didn�t feel that the Planning Commission shonld have to
spend a great deal of tims writing the Energy Policq for the city. He
felt that the En.ergg Committee should be staffed with the people capable
of arriving at the- goals and objectives. He said that the Planning
Commission should work with the Energy Committee after they have done
all the research and snch necessary to gather all the information that
would be needed to come up �rith an Energy Policq for the City of Fridley.
Mr. Oquist felt that the scope and purpose as written by Mr. Boardman
in the booklet provided to the members was egactly what the Energq
Committee wonld need. He felt that the m�abers should be $iQen the
scope and purpose and then they should develop the goals and
abjectives.
PL�INNING COM[3ISSI�N MEETING - JUNE 21. 1978 Pa�e 10
Mr. Boardman said that the ncharge" to the Gommittee should be for them
to identiPy the problems and what kind of policy sha�ld be set up to
solve the problems that they feel exist in the City of Fridley.
Ms. Schnabel said that the Committee should also prioritize those areas
which are in need of specific pro@;rams and also develop a program of
public awareness.
Mr, Boardman said that Chairperson Harris wou7.d chair the Energy Project
Committee to help �et the Committee goiag in the right direction. He
said that by the third meeting of the Energy Committee a person from
the Project Committee would be elected to be the Chairperson of the
Energy Projeet Committee.
Mr. Boardman said that he would utilize all avenues of advertisment
to get the most knowledgeable people from the Git� of Fridley. He
said that he vroald layout an advertisment for the Energy Project
Committee and have it at the July 12� 1978 Planning Commission
meeting for the review of the members.
MOTION by Ms. 5ehnabel� seeonded by Mr. Petersoa� to continue the
Energp Projeet Committee discussion. IIpon a voice vcate� all voting
aye� the motion carried unanimously. The discnssion was continued
until July 12� 1978.
'�. CONTINUED: RECYC�ING PROJECT REPORT
�Is. Conn3e Metcalf and Ms� Elaine Jensen were at the meeting regarding
this item.
Ms. Metcalf said that the main concern of the Environmental Quality
Commission was whether the land motz].d be anailable. She said that
she had talked to Dick Sobiech and he stated that the land would
probably be available and coasistent with the eity plans.
Ms. Metcalf indicated that the responsibility of the collection center
tcas an important issue. She said that the main reason many of the
collection centers failed was because of the lack of organization and
confusion as to who would be responsible.
Ms. Metcalf indicated that the exact mechanics of the center had
not been totally worked out. She said that the project committee wo�ld
be talki.ng to many other collection centers as well as to Dick�s
Recycling of Brooklyn Park who wo�xld be picking �p the recyclable
materials from the City of Fridley.
�LAPNING GOMMISSION �EETING - JUNE 21. 1978 Page 11
Mr. Oquist poittted out that the marsagement of ffioAey pay�ent should be a
major concern. He said that if the money xas aot dispersed equally�
a big problem could deeelop.
Ms. Metcalf said that it Would be operated as much like the Edina
recycling eenter as possible. She said that they �ould find out from
them how the money was dispersed fairlq.
Mr. Boardman said that if the collection center was to be operated on
a volanteer basis� some place in the future it would probably end up
to be a City operation. He felt that at some point in time the
center would have to be maintained by City Staff. He said that whether
it �ould actuall� be operated by City personne2 or contracted out by
the Gity� the poiat had to be kept in mind.
Mr. Peterson said that he totally supported �hatever needed to be
done to get a collection center started.
Ms. Metcalf euplained to the Gommission egastly ho� they planned to
have the collection cegter set up. She felt that the City should make
same type of committment to support the collection center.
i3r, Boardffian said that the City wonld possibly cotamit land that this
type of c�nter could be placed� however he was not sure �hether the
�ity was ready to commit staff personnel.
Chairperson Harris explained that if the Project Committee has decided
that they would manage the collection center� then the group had to
be reorganized. He said that presently they were a project committee
under the En.vironmental Quality Commission. Iie said that if they
wanted to be the operating committee for the collection eenter� then
they would have to dissolve the project committee and regror�p themseloes
with no involeement at all with the City escept the City would possibly
r'donate" the land to have the collection center located on, He said
that the new +'committee" wo�ald have to ha�e an operating plan that they
conld present to the Citq of Fridley. He said that the City Council
wowld also �eant to know how the Committee planned to maintain the
t�donated�� land,
Ms. Metcalf pointed oat that if the City ever felt that the land was not
being properly maintained, they could order the eollection center to
cease their operation.
Mr. Siorla said it was about time that Fridley did something about the
subject of recycling. He suggested that the Collection Center committee
look inio the possibility of becoming and operating ander the terms of
a"non-profit organization��. He explained the procedure the Teen �enter
in the City of Fridley went through and the benefits of doing such an
action.
PL919NING COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 21. i9�8 Pa�e 72
MOTIOR by Mr. Petersog� seconded by Mr. Oqnist that the Planning Commission
receive and aceept the Recycling Project Commi�tee�s report� with thanks�
and that would end their part of their responsibilit�. Also� that
the Planning Coffimission encourage them to organize and continne on so
that the Collection Center for the City of Fridley wonld become a
reality. Upon a voice vote! al.l voting �ye, the motion carried
unanimously.
�. 13ECEIVE HUMAN RESOUBCES COMNIISSION MINUT�S: JIINE 1. 1978
MflTI4�N by Mr, Storla! seconded by Mr. Oqrtist� to receive the Human
&esources Commission minutes of dune 1� 1978. Upon a voice vote�
all voting aye� the motion carried unanimonsly.
MOTION by Air. Langenfeld� seconded by Mr. Storla� to receive the
Memorandum of Agreement. IIpon a voice vote� all voting aye� the
motion earried unanimously.
MOTION by Mr. Storla� seconded by Mr. Langenfeld� to continue the
discussioa of the Memorandum of Agreement until the s�egt meeting.
Upon a voice vote� all �oting aye� the motion carried unanimonsly.
5. RECEIVE APPEALS COMNIISSION MINtT`PES: JIINE 13. 1978
M��ION by Ms. Schnabel seconded by Mr. Siorla� to receive the
Appeals Comsnission minu�es of Jryne 13� �978.
Ms. Schaabel pointed out that it had been erroneously stated that
the meetiag of July 27� 1978 had beeu cancelled. She sai.d that
there wot�ld be a meeting on July 27� 1g78.
UPON A VO3CE V�TE� all �eoting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
6. OTHER
Chairperson Hax�ris said that they had received a letter from
Mr. Ken Korin of 6051 Benjamin Street. The letter was regarding
damag�es doae to his property by Dailey Homes.
MOTION bg Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Mr. Peterson, to receive the
letter from Mr. Kvrin of 6051 Ben3amin Street NE� Fridley� MI3 and to
send 3t on to Gity Council ior ac�Eion. Upott a voice vote� all voting
�ye� the �otion carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel� seconded by Mr. Oq�ist' to adjourn the June 21' 1978
Planning Commission meeting, Upon a voice vote� all voting aye the,
motion earried nnanimously. The meeting was adjonrned at 11:3� P.M.
Respecifully submitted�
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MaryLee Car
Recording Secretary